On this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down the latest in the U.S.–Iran conflict and the administration’s argument that the operation is delivering air supremacy and rapid results. They react to Secretary of War's Pete Hegseth and Gen. Dan “Razin” Caine, discuss the media narrative vs. operational success, and dig into Marco Rubio’s explanation of why the U.S. moved now—and why claims that “Israel forced America into war” don’t hold up.
They also look at early public opinion: how support changes depending on whether Americans believe the conflict will last days, weeks, months, or years, and why that matters politically. Plus, they note the real cost of war, honoring the American troops killed in Kuwait and the families left behind.
Then it’s politics: the shockwaves from Texas primaries, including James Talarico defeating Jasmine Crockett in the Democratic Senate primary, Cornyn vs. Paxton heading to a GOP runoff, and Dan Crenshaw losing his primary. Mary Katharine and Karol debate “electability vs. bombast,” what Latino-heavy counties turning out in a Democratic primary could signal, and how Trump endorsements may shape the next round.
The conversation also touches the early 2028 terrain—Gavin Newsom’s Israel comments, the left’s growing comfort with “apartheid” rhetoric, and why Democrats may be steering into an intraparty fight over America’s closest Middle East ally. They flag a Virginia storyline too: why “moderate” branding may not survive hard questions on crime and immigration enforcement.
Finally, they close with a major Supreme Court development: the Court granting relief to California parents challenging school policies around social transition and parental notification—why the justices signaled parents are likely to win on religious exercise and the right to direct the upbringing and education of their children.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I got back normally, it showed normally. Take in the
news year and I am Mary Katherine.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And I'm Calm Market. I'm Mary Catherine.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
How's going, Oh, it's going all right. Getting through this week,
my hard week of having no dependence and going to
the gym and doing podcasts, eating by myself stressful.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I again loved my time at Hillsdale, so I hope
you're enjoying it as well. The kids are amazing. Are
you finding it smart?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fun? Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, well dressed. Nobody at my college dressed like that.
Everybody in my school was in pajamas. They're all in
like business where.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I was so thankful that you told me that, because
I would have dressed medium to down had you not
warned me. And I get in there and they're all
professional looking and right have their hair nice when I
arrive and I'm like, oh goodness, we got to up
the anty hair.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Molly him, anyway, was the one who told me about
the fact that they dressed up, because I was planning
to be like jeans in a sweater, like not like
not nice. But you know what I saw My teachers
were in college.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yep, No, they're they're good to go they're they're ready
for the real world.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, I really more than most college students for sure.
All right, let's get into it. The war with Iran continues.
It's looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and General Dan Caine gave
a joint press conference today, and I mean they said
some interesting stuff. I thought that Pete Hegseth remains somebody
that I think was just born for this role. Look,
I defended him when he was having a tough time
getting confirmed, and I really felt like he was the
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guy for this job at this time, and I think
every day since then I have felt very good about it.
He's really is the guy here to bring our defense
capabilities to the next level, to get more enrollment, which
he has done significantly, and just to be a cheerleader
and praise the heroics of our military in such a
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way that I just think we haven't seen in a while.
So we're going to roll. We're going to start it
off with a short clip of him talking today. We
have two short clips of him. Here's Pete Heegsath.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
We sunk their prize ship, the Solomoni. Looks like Potus
got him twice. There Navy not a factor. Pick your adjective.
It is no more.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
In fact.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yesterday in the Indian Ocean and we'll play it on screen.
There an American submarine sunk an Iranian warship that thought
it was safe in international waters. Instead it was sunk
by a torpedo.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Quiet death.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
The first sinking of an enemy ship by a torpedo
since World War II. Like in that war, back when
we were still the war depart we are fighting to win.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
He just seems like he's having so much fun. He's like,
this is what I'm here to do.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I've been more skeptical of him, and I was very
excited for him on a recruiting front because I did
think that having been in combat and being a guy
who could relate to younger men that he was men
and women, that he was a person who could bring
more in the door. You can't argue with a lot
of the operational success of the military since he has
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been at top. I love listening to General Kane as well.
He's so obviously got to meet him in December actually
briefly at the Travis Mannin Foundation Gallop and these guys
are impressive. I know that the press is like, oh,
he's just brown out up there. But here's the thing, good,
good bro out, Here's the thing. The press is attempting
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to manifest operational failure from operational success, right, that's like, nope,
are US men's hockey teaming the strikes where they're like, no, no, no,
We're going to say that all of this is a
problem as it's happening, even though what you're actually doing
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is creating air supremacy over the entire country of Iran
and doing pretty amazing things, bringing together coalitions that the
world has never seen. Right, who would have Who would
have thought five years ago if you said, well, yes,
the Arab States are going to join with the US
and Israel in backing the striking of Iran and the
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killing of coming.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Open and yeah, because a lot of a lot of
times they do stuff behind the scenes, but they don't
do things quite as openly as they're doing it here.
And you mentioned air supremacy. Here's one more short clip
of Pete Hagsath talking about just that.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Starting last night and to be completed in a few
days and under a week, the two most powerful air
forces in the world will have complete control of Iranian skies,
contested airspace. I hope all the folks watching understand what
uncontested airspace and complete control means. It means we will
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fly all day, all night, day and night, finding, fixing
and finishing the missiles and defense industrial base of the
Iranian military, finding and fixing their leaders and their military leaders,
flying over Tehran, flying over Iran, flying over their capital,
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flying over the RGC, Iranian leaders, looking up and seeing
only US and Israeli air power every minute of every day.
Until we decide it's over in Iran, we'll be able
to do nothing about it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
B two S B fifty two s B.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Ones, predator drones, fighters controlling the skies, picking targets, death
and destruction from the sky all day long.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Just amazing, all day long.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I came across a line Derek Thompson of the Atlantic
was interviewing another Atlantic writer, A Kareem Sadriphor, and I
just want to note that that was him who said this,
because I think it's fantastic. He says, I think this
might be one of the few instances in modern history
where a greater percentage of the society being bombed was
supportive of military action than the society that was doing
the bombing, because the initial snap polling here has been
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a little rocky for the administration, I think because a
lot of people just go, is this Iraq? I don't
want this to be Iraq?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But we have another hole a CBS poll that was
asked in a really interesting way. One. I think it's
worth noting that every bombing run you see videoed in
Iran is followed by laughing and clapping, so I think
carrying important important context. But the CBS poll asked, do
you approve or disapprove of military action against Iran if
you think the conflict conflict would last years, and the
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number is thirteen percent, months forty six percent, days or weeks,
seventy six percent would approve. So this looks like they're
ahead of schedule in establishing what they want to establish
and that the outcome could be within weeks or months.
That's right, which would mean you're on the good side
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of American public approval, which is what we've been saying
is that if Trump strikes and uses power quickly, efficiently,
and effectively, Americans are like great, great.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, and look, things again appear to be going while
Iran's strikes are slowing down, they're running out of missiles,
et cetera. Yesterday, so we're recording this on Wednesday. On Tuesday,
the Israeli Air Force attacked Iran and destroyed another meeting.
They were having another in person meeting, Mary Catherine somebody
on x this account called the Salon Dawn tweeted even
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Jamie Diamond, who is CEO of JP Morgan, would be
impressed by Iran's commitment to in person meetings. Yes, seriously,
the council is comprised of eighty eight religious leaders and
they were choosing the new Ayahtola and the Israeli Air
Force blew them up, you know, allegedly. It's just it's amazing.
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It's amazing to watch two militaries who are really on
top of their game do this, and it's amazing to watch,
like you said, the other countries in the Middle East
participate on the side of the US and Israel. It's
impressive and it's a testament to what Donald Trump has accomplished.
I know people don't want to give him any credit,
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but this is something that could only happen because Donald
Trump is a little different plays things completely differently than
other politicians have and is able to get people together
who would have never considered being together.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Meanwhile, the alliance that should be coming to the rescue
of the Iranians, China and Russia, nowhere to be seen. China,
I believe, noted the other day that it was to
offer moral support, and Chinese air defenses apparently have been
found to be not at all helpful, as you can
tell by our air supremacy at this point. There is
an argument back home again, a lot of press about, okay, well,
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what is the rationale for this war? And to me
it is To me it is well, they've been at
war with us since nineteen seventy nine and we have
never struck directly because we were worried about the capacity
that they had. During Obama years, the strong preference was
for appeasement. But you can make an argument that we're
appeasing because we're afraid of what they have. We're going
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to extend this deadline. Right The Iran that exists right
now when this strike was planned, is a different Iran
and capabilities than it was at any other time since
nineteen seventy nine. It is laid bare. Thank you Israeli
strikes on their air defenses thank you Israeli and US
Intel and so dealing with it at this moment, particularly
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if you have a chance to hit Kamani, because you
know where he is, seems like a pretty good shot
to take.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah. Absolutely. Another person who has been really impressive during
this time is obviously Secretary Marco Rubio, you know, longtime
fans here on normally. He also has had some really
amazing comments that he's made during this time. He said
something that was misconstrued by people on the internet on purpose. Yeah,
(10:31):
said that they took it to mean that Israel forced
the US to get into this war, which is ridiculous.
So to clarify, he said this, Listen, let me.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Explain to you guys. This is simple English.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Aroan is run by lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics. They have
an ambition to have nuclear weapons. They intend to develop
those nuclear weapons behind a program of missiles and drones
and terrorism that the world will not be able to
touch them for fear of those things. And this is
the weakest they've ever been. Now is the time to
go after them. The President made the decision to go
after them. Take away their missiles, take away their navy,
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take away their drones take away their ability to make
those things so that they can never have a nuclear weapon.
That's why the President made this decision. It was the
right decision, and the world will be a safer place
when these radical clerics and a lot of them have
access to these weapons. You see how they're using them now,
imagine how they would use them a year from now
they had more of these.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
By the way, this is a great argument that Iran
is making against itself, Yeah, is that they're randomly shooting
whatever they have at anyone, including actual allies of Theirs.
Cutter and Oman are like, wait, what's happening. I thought
we had a thing, but y'all don't have a thing.
They don't have a thing because these are lunatics. As
Rubio points out. Now, I will say I do think that,
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and I know it's not Trump's style, and what you
get from Trump is the guy who will hit Iran.
So you don't necessarily get the sit down Oval office
resolute desk address. But I do think that is owed
to the American people. I think could go out and
make the exact argument that Rubio made quickly in an
Oval address office and that it's serious and this needs
to be taken seriously. Yeah, I would appreciate that, and
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I think it would clear up some of this, but
it should the reporters can have brains in their heads.
And remember a couple months back after Midnight Hammer, when
Israel had jets flying over ran on their way and
Trump said stop and pull them back, and they did
because Trump is not This delegation is stupid, right, it's stupid,
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this idea that Trump. Yeah, that Trump could be forced
into something. Come on, have you met them? They also
chopped up Rubio's quote on purpose to mislead people, because
he was asked two separate questions why and why now?
And the why now was well, we had found this
target of opportunity together and Israel was going to take
it right, Like, that's how this works, guys. I also
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think we're in a double bind where it's like, if
America acts alone, that's bad, but if America acts with
the other most capable intel and military, that's also bad.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah. Yeah, there was a piece in Axios. It was
Mark Caputo and Barack revied. Barack Revied is who gets
normally planted the stories from inside the administration of people
skeptical of military action. So it's kind of interesting that
he had this story, which was that last Monday, Israeli
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Prime Minister Benjamin Ett, yeah who called President Trump with
a stunning tip Iran supreme leader and his top advisors
were all set to meet at one location in Tehran
on Saturday morning. They could all be killed in a
single devastating airstriken and yeah who told Trump and his team,
according to three sources briefed on the discussion, and obviously
Trump said, let's do it. Let's do it. Why wouldn't
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they do it?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You know? What this reminded me of yesterday was was
Bush's attempt to reform social Security. I know that sounds weird,
but in the moment, it was a very politically unpopular thing.
But he thought it was the right thing to do.
He thought that it was necessary for the country's finances,
and had it happened, we would be in a much
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better position now than we are, had he been able
to convince everyone and everyone not dug their heels in
about it. In foreign policy, the president has a lot
more power. So what Trump did is he took his
somewhat politically unpopular reform and risk and he did it.
And I do think in twenty years we will be
much safer as a result. That's absolutely we will have
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a better world order because the head of this snake
was lopped off, and even if you don't get perfect
freedom in the aftermath in Iran, it is hard to
get worse than what we had.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, that's absolutely right. And the thing is we won't
see it that way, or since it that way, what
we could only see when it's worse. Right, I can
only see that the social not privatizing what was it,
five percent of social security has ended up being a
bad thing for us. It's much tougher with a situation
like Ran to be like, oh, well we feel safer,
we are safer, but we will be safer and that's
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the reality of it.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Well, I think some people are resistant to believe that
these far off dangers cause problems for us. But the
alliance of Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, especially with those
couple in our backyard, very dangerous. Yeah, very dangerous. I
would also note there was an update on this front
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of Machado's, who is the opposition leader in Venezuela, says
she's coming back to Venezuela soon and there is the
suggestion that there will be elections, so that is moving
in the direction of the Venezuelan people making decisions about
that country. So we hope the best for both of
those countries and that for it to work out in
that way.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Absolutely, Eventually, Iran, their Ranian people are going to have
to kind of rise up and do their own thing
and decide what kind of government they're going to have,
and America role is to secure that for them, but
then they have to take over.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Can I on the note that this of course comes
with very serious risk. We now have the names of
four of the American troops who died in Kuwait. Those
killed according to PBS, and this is from the Pentagon
where Captain Cody Cork thirty five of winter Haven, Florida,
Sergeant first class Noah T. Tins excuse me for not
knowing how to pronounce that forty two of Bellevue, Nebraska,
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Sergeant first class Nicole Amore thirty nine of White Bear Lake, Minnesota,
and Sergeant Decland Cody twenty of West des Moines, Iowa.
I know that Nicole Amor was a mom of young kids.
Decland Cody had become an Eagle Scout in twenty twenty,
which if you become an Eagle Scout in the Year
of our Lord twenty twenty year the best among us. Right,
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if you were able to get that done. They all
devoted their lives to their country, and please lift up
their families because they're in very real pain right now
as this moves forward.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
There's absolutely a cost, and these people paided for all
of us. Okay, we're going to take a short break
and be right back with some primary news. There was
a primary last night and we're going to talk about it.
We are back on normally where a number of primaries
happened last night, with the biggest one being the US
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Senate race primary Democratic primary in Texas, where James tell
Rico won the Democratic nomination over Representative Jasmine Crockett. She
had entered the race with so much fanfare that I
believe he almost dropped out, And it was funny that
that was the case, because she ended up losing by
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quite a bit. It wasn't particularly close, and James tell
Erco wanted outright. Meanwhile, on the Republican side in Texas,
Senator John Cornyn and Attorney General Ken Paxton are heading
to a runoff since neither got a majority in that race.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, I think that Jasmine Crockett didn't run a campaign.
She ran an identity and her Instagram account. Yeah, that's
what she ran. And her idea and some of the
activists who supported her was that we were just going
to do twenty twenty again, which is scream at you
about how you must support a black woman and if
you do not, then you are a racist. And I
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have to say, even though she would be a more
vulnerable general election candidate for Republicans that I am appreciative
that this tactic did not work because they saw some
I think unfair and nasty stuff at Tall Rico. And
although it's fun to watch Democrats pay the price of
their own resks from twenty to twenty, I'm glad it
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didn't work for her because I don't think we want
to be encouraging the types of candidates who are just
identity first vibes. Only she didn't have a campaign manager,
she didn't run ads, And I know we're in a
new era, but like you come, I have, you have
to have a campaign, not just yell at people. And then,
of course, as she loses, she blames Republicans for her loss,
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which doesn't make any sense because Republican goaded her into
a running because we thought she'd be easier to be
and b to the extent we were meddling, it was
to vote for her, not against her, or suppress her
vote at all.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, come on, now, there are two kinds of people.
There are the kinds of people that would love to
see a Jasmine Crocket win because she'll be a potentially
an easier person to be in the general. And I
think you and I are the opposite, where we want
the more serious candidate to win just in case, just
in case they pull off an upset, just in case.
I mean, I think tell A Rico is also fairly
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far left to be real, but he's not Jasmine Crockett left.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So that's like he puts in some work, right, I
don't buy it.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I don't buy the youth pastor in the back of
a pickup game. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I don't like how he just massages his Christianity and
it satisfies any of his progressive views that need to
be satisfied, because I don't think that's a correct way
of doing that. I think the speech she gave that
includes the sentence, God is nine non binary, is really
going to I'm back to bite him in a general election?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, But this is a bit of a tough scenario
for Republicans for sure, because Ken Paxton has a lot
of baggage. He is the anti establishment candidate. He will
be going up in twelve weeks against Cornan, the four
time incumbent senator, and Trump did not endorse in the
three way primary to start this. Will he endorse for
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the runoff, which would make it easier for Republicans because
then your runoff wouldn't cost so much money, and these
two people wouldn't beat the ever loving crap out of
each other until they go up against teller each It's
going to cost a lot of money. It's already cost
sixty million plus to get corn where he is.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, it's going to be a question. Do you think
Trump would endorse Cornyn? I mean that's the I think
some are urging that what the president of the party
would normally do, but Paxton is more trumpy. It's really
it's kind of a tough question.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yes, it is a tough question. I think some are
urging him to endorse Cornyn. I think many in the
base would be upset, but the base doesn't say it
stay upset with Trump for very long?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
And where do those Wesley Hunt was also in this primary,
who I really like. I might have ended up a
Wesley Hunt voter if I were there. Where do his
voters go? I think there's a couple hundred thousand of
them and we will see what he ends up doing
as well. But this has the potential to suck up
a lot of money and be a lot closer than
Republicans want to be.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah. The other notable race from last night, Dan Crenshaw
lost his primary. He was the GOP incumbent representative also
in Texas to state Rep. Steve Toth. It was an upset,
and I don't think I didn't realize that was a possibility.
There's very few polls in these races, so I think
it was a surprise to a lot of think it was.
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I believe Trump did not endorse in that race either. Again,
it does the Trump endorsement matter in primaries? I say, yes,
it still does.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, And Crenshaw had been openly more Trump critical and
the base decided that they wanted someone else in that slot. Yes,
this is a surprise and I think whereas I was
on the lookout for the Left getting itself in trouble
with more base satisfying candidates than general election satisfying candidates,
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I think the Republican Party is also in some danger
of doing that. That doesn't mean that these guys can't
pan out in the h Yeah, but you may build
a harder road for yourself, that's right.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, we do this sometimes, build that harder road for ourselves. Yeah. Look,
in my life, I have always voted for the most
conservative candidate in the race. That's not what this is
all the time. It's not always the most conservative candidate.
It's sometimes the most bombastic or the most angry, or
that kind of thing that doesn't play quite as well
in a general And I think we need to be
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careful of that. And I say this to you because
I know you agree with me. But the rest of
the party, I don't know do they agree with us
on this. I think they kind of like the bombastic.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
No. I mean, electability is not a sexy argument.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's really not. Yeah, I don't care. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It's also worth noting there was a really high turnout
for Talla Rico in Latino majority counties. That in many
cases Republicans would of course like to stick around as
Republican voters. In this primary, you could go either way.
You can vote Republican or Democrats. So maybe they just
found the Democratic primary more interesting, a little more spice.
You wanted to vote for Talla Rico, which is what
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a lot of those counties did at about sixty percent,
and heavily Latino counties. But it should be of interest
and perhaps concern to Republicans that a lot of these
counties that they hoped would stay Republican are looking like
they're enthusiastically coming out for a Democratic primary. Yeah, we'll
see sign something for the fall.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Texas is you know, I say this Texas is the
whale for Democrats, but you know Virginia used to be
the whale for Democrats. That used to be the state
that I was like, that's never blue. Yeah, so it's
always got to be careful and I never say ever.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Well, there will be a ton of runoffs and we
will keep you posted on those. But also in North Carolina,
a big one expected results. Roy Cooper, who is the
former governor of North Carolina, will be the Senate candidate
for the Democrats and Michael Watley, former R and C chair,
the candidate for Republicans. Watley is not super well known
in the state despite having been the rn C chair.
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Cooper is popular, even though he shouldn't be because he
was terrible during COVID and then terrible during Hurricane Helene. Nonetheless,
he is a person who has gotten a lot of passes.
So we'll see what happens there. That is for Tom
Tillis's seat.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah. Meanwhile, tom Beach County in Florida is on the
verge of going red in terms of voter registration. This
is crazy because pom Beach County was traditionally a Blue
county in Florida. Very few Blue counties left in Florida,
Mary Catherine, So you know you have your pick of
county should you choose to make the move.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You know, I'm going to be a Panhandle gal. Yes
to Florida.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
There, I've never been to the Panhandle. Can we go together?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I'm going to be stuck in what really is just
South Georgia and South Alabama.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I love it. Let's go, let's go visit family trips.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know it's gorgeous. It's gorgeous with the you got
the moss off the old oak trees is gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah. So Ron DeSantis retweeted that Palm Beach County's Democrat
advantage collapsed from one hundred and thirty eight thousand to
a little over twelve thousand, and it could tell by
the boat by mail numbers that a lot of those
Blue voters are snowbirds. There was a way to get
snowbirds to not be eligible to vote in Florida. I
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would certainly be for that.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Can I point out just on the voter turnout and
flipping states and what have you. Scott Presler, who of
course has done very energetic on the groundwork in Pennsylvania,
New Jersey over the place, he just tweeted this the
other day, and I just want to acknowledge growth in
this position, in this mission for him, because this is
good stuff. We've identified sixteen hundred and fifteen Farsie speaking
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voters in Pennsylvania. Out of those, nine hundred and twenty
are registered Democrats. Early Vote Action will have peer to
peer text messages shortly for you to communicate a beautiful
Persian specific message to them. The Republican Party has their
backs like that is not even anything on the table
it is they going to do it going straight to
those people and saying, hi, guests, who just killed Kamani? Right, Look,
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it is a very compelling argument. By the way, have
you seen that there's these a viral sound of a
DJ having come Yeah, oh yeah, yeah is dead? Yeah
so good. Yeah, this is the new world.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
It really is. To talk about the twenty twenty eight
primary for a second. Gavin Newsome was at a book
event in Los Angeles and he said some things about
Israel that I think are being portrayed a little bit
harsher than I actually heard them, and I listen, I
don't give Newsom any credit at all, but yah Surelie tweeted.
(27:11):
Newsom said that those who say Israel's at a part I
had stayed are doing so quote appropriately. Newsom said Israel
has been unable to resolve the Hamas issue over the
past couple of years, so how could it possibly get
into the regime change business in Iran. He also alluded
to concerns about Israeli influence on US government decisions. I
hear that, but listening to that clip, it was a
(27:32):
very lefty I just don't like the net and Yahoo
administration kind of clip. I didn't hear anything super new there.
But I still think that it's going to be interesting
to see if the Democrats are really going to be
turning on our main very capable ally in order to
(27:54):
run in their primary. And this could easily be the
beginning of that, you know, being the case where they're
all going to raise their hands and say they oppose
any future alliance with Israel because it's not about the support, right.
I know a lot of people talk about how much
money we give Israel for its defense. All of that
money is spent on American defense systems. No president wants
(28:18):
to cut that is the is the reality of it.
Israel could easily go it alone. The US does not
want them to. And when Newsom says, you know, Israel
has been unable to take out Hamas mostly because we've
tied their hands and the world has tied their hands,
they could absolutely take out Hamas if they did not they.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Out, he's also sort of ignoring the idea that, like
Hamas is living next to the governor's mansion, if we
were to do the analogous situation. So taking out this
this enemy while your hands are being tied is a
very very tough logistical ask when it's right on your
border attacking you daily, that's right, it's really tough to
(29:00):
I think I do appreciate so much having been to Israel,
and I think others should try to visit, because once
you see how close everything is together, you get a
new appreciation for why, right, why the defenses need to
be what they are.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, when they were like, well, you're going to the
north today, Okay, two hours later we're in the north.
You're going to the south today. Two hours later you're
in the south.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Like yeah, yeah, But I do think I think you're
right that, you know, using this kind of language like
aparth that is going to become Normaldard, which, by the way,
if you ever have been to Israel or talk to
anyone who's from there, it's not it's not at all.
So it's just untrue. So saying untrue things about Israel
(29:40):
is probably going to be the part for the course
moving through the twenty twenty eight primary.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, unfortunate, and I hope the Republicans don't succumb to
the same thing. I think the numbers still are overwhelmingly
pro Israel no matter what the Tuckers of the world want.
But we'll see, we'll see what jd Vance is saying
closer to that time.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
A quick note that actually fits with twenty twenty eight
as well is the up and coming governor Abigail Spamberger
of Virginia, whose Democratic run state legislator has been proposing
all sorts of insane things. She had a chance to
moderate last week. She had a chance to moderate because
a forty one year old woman, Stephanie Mentor, was murdered
(30:24):
at a bus stop in northern Virginia. And she was
murdered by an illegal alien who's been in the US
for fifteen years, and during that his time in Northern
Virginia has been arrested on thirty offenses, many of them violent,
including malicious wounding and forcible rape. And he has been
let go or not charged or on the streets every
(30:46):
single time because there is a Soros funded prosecutor in
Fairfax County who doesn't like to prosecute named Steve Discano.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
And after this murder, Abigail Spamberger was asked, as the governor,
would you honor an ice detainer for this man? And
she said, no, go get a warrant. Oh, he has
to commit another crime. I guess in order for them
to come pick up this is just a no brainer.
And there was a Biden former staffer who was like,
(31:16):
this is not passing the test for a modern democrat, Like,
you cannot signal that this is a hard decision for you.
You have to go pick this guy up.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And she's the quote unquote moderate.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
She's the moderate.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Nope, she's mom Donny Wing. Guys. Yeah, doesn't matter how
her suit looks, how boring it is. She's mom Donny Wing.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Right, Ay, right, we'll be right back with more on normally.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
All right, we are back on normally with some good
news out of the Supreme Court, where they gave some
relief to parents who objected to California school systems transitioning
so uly their children without notifying them. And they said, hey,
we feel like this violates our parents' rights and our
religious rights. And the Supreme Court was like, indeed, this
(32:10):
is Amy How writing at the Scotis Blog. The Supreme
Court on Monday granted a request from a group of
California parents to reinstate a ruling by a federal district
court that prohibits schools in that state from misleading parents
about their children's gender presentation, and that require schools to
follow parents' instructions regarding the names and pronouns that children
use there and a seven page order the majority explained
(32:31):
that the parents were likely to prevail on their claim
that California's policies violate the parents' rights to freely exercise
their religion and their right to quote direct the upbringing
and education of their children. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I was told this never happens. This never happens.
Schools never transition kids behind their parents' backs. And yet
this is a case that reached all the way to
the Supreme Court saying yeah, it does happen. The underlying
case is going to continue through the lower courts, meaning
that this legal fight is actually not over yet because
the injunction is just preliminary. But still it's a big
(33:06):
move to say this is not acceptable, and I think
that that's what the Supreme Court should be should be
saying when people are doing things against the wishes of
the parents.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, it's discouraging, both in this case and the Maryland
Montgomery County School's one that you have to go all
the way to Supreme Court to get relief on your
totally common sensical parents' rights to raise your children as
you see fit. But this is where we are, and
this is how the progressive creek creep into everything and
(33:41):
then make things that were formerly just totally understood by
everyone as cultural norms. They're like, oh, no, that's not
real anymore because we're fighting a culture war and you
got here late. So go to the Supreme Court and
try to get your parents rights back.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah. Well, I hope they win, and I hope that
sanity prevails. I feel like we're moving in the right
direction on this. I don't think that the Democrats are
going to be running on boys can be in girls'
locker rooms this time around, although we'll see, right who
knows what they're going to run on. The primary moves
them all further to the left before they try to
(34:15):
make a bolt for the center and the general. I
hope they get called on all the crazy things that
they believe, and you know, I have to actually state
what those insane things are.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, tell Rico is a signal. I think that they
are interested in moving to the center, to someone, or
at least extricating themselves from twenty twenty tactics and beliefs
to some degree. But also God is non binary, so
you know that's right both, He's got both things going on.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
And I'm Calm Market. I'm Mary Catherine.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
How's going, Oh, it's going all right. Getting through this week,
my hard week of having no dependence and going to
the gym and doing podcasts, eating by myself stressful.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I again loved my time at Hillsdale, so I hope
you're enjoying it as well. The kids are amazing. Are
you finding it smart?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fun? Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, well dressed. Nobody at my college dressed like that.
Everybody in my school was in pajamas. They're all in
like business where.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I was so thankful that you told me that, because
I would have dressed medium to down had you not
warned me. And I get in there and they're all
professional looking and right have their hair nice when I
arrive and I'm like, oh goodness, we got to up
the anty hair.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Molly him, anyway, was the one who told me about
the fact that they dressed up, because I was planning
to be like jeans in a sweater, like not like
not nice. But you know what I saw My teachers
were in college.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yep, No, they're they're good to go they're they're ready
for the real world.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, I really more than most college students for sure.
All right, let's get into it. The war with Iran continues.
It's looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and General Dan Caine gave
a joint press conference today, and I mean they said
some interesting stuff. I thought that Pete Hegseth remains somebody
that I think was just born for this role. Look,
I defended him when he was having a tough time
getting confirmed, and I really felt like he was the
(01:48):
guy for this job at this time, and I think
every day since then I have felt very good about it.
He's really is the guy here to bring our defense
capabilities to the next level, to get more enrollment, which
he has done significantly, and just to be a cheerleader
and praise the heroics of our military in such a
(02:10):
way that I just think we haven't seen in a while.
So we're going to roll. We're going to start it
off with a short clip of him talking today. We
have two short clips of him. Here's Pete Heegsath.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
We sunk their prize ship, the Solomoni. Looks like Potus
got him twice. There Navy not a factor. Pick your adjective.
It is no more.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
In fact.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yesterday in the Indian Ocean and we'll play it on screen.
There an American submarine sunk an Iranian warship that thought
it was safe in international waters. Instead it was sunk
by a torpedo.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Quiet death.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
The first sinking of an enemy ship by a torpedo
since World War II. Like in that war, back when
we were still the war depart we are fighting to win.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
He just seems like he's having so much fun. He's like,
this is what I'm here to do.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I've been more skeptical of him, and I was very
excited for him on a recruiting front because I did
think that having been in combat and being a guy
who could relate to younger men that he was men
and women, that he was a person who could bring
more in the door. You can't argue with a lot
of the operational success of the military since he has
(03:28):
been at top. I love listening to General Kane as well.
He's so obviously got to meet him in December actually
briefly at the Travis Mannin Foundation Gallop and these guys
are impressive. I know that the press is like, oh,
he's just brown out up there. But here's the thing, good,
good bro out, Here's the thing. The press is attempting
(03:50):
to manifest operational failure from operational success, right, that's like, nope,
are US men's hockey teaming the strikes where they're like, no, no, no,
We're going to say that all of this is a
problem as it's happening, even though what you're actually doing
(04:10):
is creating air supremacy over the entire country of Iran
and doing pretty amazing things, bringing together coalitions that the
world has never seen. Right, who would have Who would
have thought five years ago if you said, well, yes,
the Arab States are going to join with the US
and Israel in backing the striking of Iran and the
(04:33):
killing of coming.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Open and yeah, because a lot of a lot of
times they do stuff behind the scenes, but they don't
do things quite as openly as they're doing it here.
And you mentioned air supremacy. Here's one more short clip
of Pete Hagsath talking about just that.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Starting last night and to be completed in a few
days and under a week, the two most powerful air
forces in the world will have complete control of Iranian skies,
contested airspace. I hope all the folks watching understand what
uncontested airspace and complete control means. It means we will
(05:10):
fly all day, all night, day and night, finding, fixing
and finishing the missiles and defense industrial base of the
Iranian military, finding and fixing their leaders and their military leaders,
flying over Tehran, flying over Iran, flying over their capital,
(05:30):
flying over the RGC, Iranian leaders, looking up and seeing
only US and Israeli air power every minute of every day.
Until we decide it's over in Iran, we'll be able
to do nothing about it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
B two S B fifty two s B.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Ones, predator drones, fighters controlling the skies, picking targets, death
and destruction from the sky all day long.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Just amazing, all day long.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I came across a line Derek Thompson of the Atlantic
was interviewing another Atlantic writer, A Kareem Sadriphor, and I
just want to note that that was him who said this,
because I think it's fantastic. He says, I think this
might be one of the few instances in modern history
where a greater percentage of the society being bombed was
supportive of military action than the society that was doing
the bombing, because the initial snap polling here has been
(06:29):
a little rocky for the administration, I think because a
lot of people just go, is this Iraq? I don't
want this to be Iraq?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But we have another hole a CBS poll that was
asked in a really interesting way. One. I think it's
worth noting that every bombing run you see videoed in
Iran is followed by laughing and clapping, so I think
carrying important important context. But the CBS poll asked, do
you approve or disapprove of military action against Iran if
you think the conflict conflict would last years, and the
(06:59):
number is thirteen percent, months forty six percent, days or weeks,
seventy six percent would approve. So this looks like they're
ahead of schedule in establishing what they want to establish
and that the outcome could be within weeks or months.
That's right, which would mean you're on the good side
(07:21):
of American public approval, which is what we've been saying
is that if Trump strikes and uses power quickly, efficiently,
and effectively, Americans are like great, great.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, and look, things again appear to be going while
Iran's strikes are slowing down, they're running out of missiles,
et cetera. Yesterday, so we're recording this on Wednesday. On Tuesday,
the Israeli Air Force attacked Iran and destroyed another meeting.
They were having another in person meeting, Mary Catherine somebody
on x this account called the Salon Dawn tweeted even
(07:55):
Jamie Diamond, who is CEO of JP Morgan, would be
impressed by Iran's commitment to in person meetings. Yes, seriously,
the council is comprised of eighty eight religious leaders and
they were choosing the new Ayahtola and the Israeli Air
Force blew them up, you know, allegedly. It's just it's amazing.
(08:15):
It's amazing to watch two militaries who are really on
top of their game do this, and it's amazing to watch,
like you said, the other countries in the Middle East
participate on the side of the US and Israel. It's
impressive and it's a testament to what Donald Trump has accomplished.
I know people don't want to give him any credit,
(08:35):
but this is something that could only happen because Donald
Trump is a little different plays things completely differently than
other politicians have and is able to get people together
who would have never considered being together.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Meanwhile, the alliance that should be coming to the rescue
of the Iranians, China and Russia, nowhere to be seen. China,
I believe, noted the other day that it was to
offer moral support, and Chinese air defenses apparently have been
found to be not at all helpful, as you can
tell by our air supremacy at this point. There is
an argument back home again, a lot of press about, okay, well,
(09:13):
what is the rationale for this war? And to me
it is To me it is well, they've been at
war with us since nineteen seventy nine and we have
never struck directly because we were worried about the capacity
that they had. During Obama years, the strong preference was
for appeasement. But you can make an argument that we're
appeasing because we're afraid of what they have. We're going
(09:35):
to extend this deadline. Right The Iran that exists right
now when this strike was planned, is a different Iran
and capabilities than it was at any other time since
nineteen seventy nine. It is laid bare. Thank you Israeli
strikes on their air defenses thank you Israeli and US
Intel and so dealing with it at this moment, particularly
(09:59):
if you have a chance to hit Kamani, because you
know where he is, seems like a pretty good shot
to take.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah. Absolutely. Another person who has been really impressive during
this time is obviously Secretary Marco Rubio, you know, longtime
fans here on normally. He also has had some really
amazing comments that he's made during this time. He said
something that was misconstrued by people on the internet on purpose. Yeah,
(10:31):
said that they took it to mean that Israel forced
the US to get into this war, which is ridiculous.
So to clarify, he said this, Listen, let me.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Explain to you guys. This is simple English.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Aroan is run by lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics. They have
an ambition to have nuclear weapons. They intend to develop
those nuclear weapons behind a program of missiles and drones
and terrorism that the world will not be able to
touch them for fear of those things. And this is
the weakest they've ever been. Now is the time to
go after them. The President made the decision to go
after them. Take away their missiles, take away their navy,
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take away their drones take away their ability to make
those things so that they can never have a nuclear weapon.
That's why the President made this decision. It was the
right decision, and the world will be a safer place
when these radical clerics and a lot of them have
access to these weapons. You see how they're using them now,
imagine how they would use them a year from now
they had more of these.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
By the way, this is a great argument that Iran
is making against itself, Yeah, is that they're randomly shooting
whatever they have at anyone, including actual allies of Theirs.
Cutter and Oman are like, wait, what's happening. I thought
we had a thing, but y'all don't have a thing.
They don't have a thing because these are lunatics. As
Rubio points out. Now, I will say I do think that,
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and I know it's not Trump's style, and what you
get from Trump is the guy who will hit Iran.
So you don't necessarily get the sit down Oval office
resolute desk address. But I do think that is owed
to the American people. I think could go out and
make the exact argument that Rubio made quickly in an
Oval address office and that it's serious and this needs
to be taken seriously. Yeah, I would appreciate that, and
(12:09):
I think it would clear up some of this, but
it should the reporters can have brains in their heads.
And remember a couple months back after Midnight Hammer, when
Israel had jets flying over ran on their way and
Trump said stop and pull them back, and they did
because Trump is not This delegation is stupid, right, it's stupid,
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this idea that Trump. Yeah, that Trump could be forced
into something. Come on, have you met them? They also
chopped up Rubio's quote on purpose to mislead people, because
he was asked two separate questions why and why now?
And the why now was well, we had found this
target of opportunity together and Israel was going to take
it right, Like, that's how this works, guys. I also
(12:56):
think we're in a double bind where it's like, if
America acts alone, that's bad, but if America acts with
the other most capable intel and military, that's also bad.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah. Yeah, there was a piece in Axios. It was
Mark Caputo and Barack revied. Barack Revied is who gets
normally planted the stories from inside the administration of people
skeptical of military action. So it's kind of interesting that
he had this story, which was that last Monday, Israeli
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Prime Minister Benjamin Ett, yeah who called President Trump with
a stunning tip Iran supreme leader and his top advisors
were all set to meet at one location in Tehran
on Saturday morning. They could all be killed in a
single devastating airstriken and yeah who told Trump and his team,
according to three sources briefed on the discussion, and obviously
Trump said, let's do it. Let's do it. Why wouldn't
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they do it?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You know? What this reminded me of yesterday was was
Bush's attempt to reform social Security. I know that sounds weird,
but in the moment, it was a very politically unpopular thing.
But he thought it was the right thing to do.
He thought that it was necessary for the country's finances,
and had it happened, we would be in a much
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better position now than we are, had he been able
to convince everyone and everyone not dug their heels in
about it. In foreign policy, the president has a lot
more power. So what Trump did is he took his
somewhat politically unpopular reform and risk and he did it.
And I do think in twenty years we will be
much safer as a result. That's absolutely we will have
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a better world order because the head of this snake
was lopped off, and even if you don't get perfect
freedom in the aftermath in Iran, it is hard to
get worse than what we had.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, that's absolutely right. And the thing is we won't
see it that way, or since it that way, what
we could only see when it's worse. Right, I can
only see that the social not privatizing what was it,
five percent of social security has ended up being a
bad thing for us. It's much tougher with a situation
like Ran to be like, oh, well we feel safer,
we are safer, but we will be safer and that's
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the reality of it.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Well, I think some people are resistant to believe that
these far off dangers cause problems for us. But the
alliance of Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, especially with those
couple in our backyard, very dangerous. Yeah, very dangerous. I
would also note there was an update on this front
(15:25):
of Machado's, who is the opposition leader in Venezuela, says
she's coming back to Venezuela soon and there is the
suggestion that there will be elections, so that is moving
in the direction of the Venezuelan people making decisions about
that country. So we hope the best for both of
those countries and that for it to work out in
that way.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Absolutely, Eventually, Iran, their Ranian people are going to have
to kind of rise up and do their own thing
and decide what kind of government they're going to have,
and America role is to secure that for them, but
then they have to take over.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Can I on the note that this of course comes
with very serious risk. We now have the names of
four of the American troops who died in Kuwait. Those
killed according to PBS, and this is from the Pentagon
where Captain Cody Cork thirty five of winter Haven, Florida,
Sergeant first class Noah T. Tins excuse me for not
knowing how to pronounce that forty two of Bellevue, Nebraska,
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Sergeant first class Nicole Amore thirty nine of White Bear Lake, Minnesota,
and Sergeant Decland Cody twenty of West des Moines, Iowa.
I know that Nicole Amor was a mom of young kids.
Decland Cody had become an Eagle Scout in twenty twenty,
which if you become an Eagle Scout in the Year
of our Lord twenty twenty year the best among us. Right,
(16:40):
if you were able to get that done. They all
devoted their lives to their country, and please lift up
their families because they're in very real pain right now
as this moves forward.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
There's absolutely a cost, and these people paided for all
of us. Okay, we're going to take a short break
and be right back with some primary news. There was
a primary last night and we're going to talk about it.
We are back on normally where a number of primaries
happened last night, with the biggest one being the US
(17:14):
Senate race primary Democratic primary in Texas, where James tell
Rico won the Democratic nomination over Representative Jasmine Crockett. She
had entered the race with so much fanfare that I
believe he almost dropped out, And it was funny that
that was the case, because she ended up losing by
(17:35):
quite a bit. It wasn't particularly close, and James tell
Erco wanted outright. Meanwhile, on the Republican side in Texas,
Senator John Cornyn and Attorney General Ken Paxton are heading
to a runoff since neither got a majority in that race.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, I think that Jasmine Crockett didn't run a campaign.
She ran an identity and her Instagram account. Yeah, that's
what she ran. And her idea and some of the
activists who supported her was that we were just going
to do twenty twenty again, which is scream at you
about how you must support a black woman and if
you do not, then you are a racist. And I
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have to say, even though she would be a more
vulnerable general election candidate for Republicans that I am appreciative
that this tactic did not work because they saw some
I think unfair and nasty stuff at Tall Rico. And
although it's fun to watch Democrats pay the price of
their own resks from twenty to twenty, I'm glad it
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didn't work for her because I don't think we want
to be encouraging the types of candidates who are just
identity first vibes. Only she didn't have a campaign manager,
she didn't run ads, And I know we're in a
new era, but like you come, I have, you have
to have a campaign, not just yell at people. And then,
of course, as she loses, she blames Republicans for her loss,
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which doesn't make any sense because Republican goaded her into
a running because we thought she'd be easier to be
and b to the extent we were meddling, it was
to vote for her, not against her, or suppress her
vote at all.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, come on, now, there are two kinds of people.
There are the kinds of people that would love to
see a Jasmine Crocket win because she'll be a potentially
an easier person to be in the general. And I
think you and I are the opposite, where we want
the more serious candidate to win just in case, just
in case they pull off an upset, just in case.
I mean, I think tell A Rico is also fairly
(19:32):
far left to be real, but he's not Jasmine Crockett left.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So that's like he puts in some work, right, I
don't buy it.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I don't buy the youth pastor in the back of
a pickup game. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I don't like how he just massages his Christianity and
it satisfies any of his progressive views that need to
be satisfied, because I don't think that's a correct way
of doing that. I think the speech she gave that
includes the sentence, God is nine non binary, is really
going to I'm back to bite him in a general election?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, But this is a bit of a tough scenario
for Republicans for sure, because Ken Paxton has a lot
of baggage. He is the anti establishment candidate. He will
be going up in twelve weeks against Cornan, the four
time incumbent senator, and Trump did not endorse in the
three way primary to start this. Will he endorse for
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the runoff, which would make it easier for Republicans because
then your runoff wouldn't cost so much money, and these
two people wouldn't beat the ever loving crap out of
each other until they go up against teller each It's
going to cost a lot of money. It's already cost
sixty million plus to get corn where he is.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, it's going to be a question. Do you think
Trump would endorse Cornyn? I mean that's the I think
some are urging that what the president of the party
would normally do, but Paxton is more trumpy. It's really
it's kind of a tough question.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yes, it is a tough question. I think some are
urging him to endorse Cornyn. I think many in the
base would be upset, but the base doesn't say it
stay upset with Trump for very long?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
And where do those Wesley Hunt was also in this primary,
who I really like. I might have ended up a
Wesley Hunt voter if I were there. Where do his
voters go? I think there's a couple hundred thousand of
them and we will see what he ends up doing
as well. But this has the potential to suck up
a lot of money and be a lot closer than
Republicans want to be.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah. The other notable race from last night, Dan Crenshaw
lost his primary. He was the GOP incumbent representative also
in Texas to state Rep. Steve Toth. It was an upset,
and I don't think I didn't realize that was a possibility.
There's very few polls in these races, so I think
it was a surprise to a lot of think it was.
(21:49):
I believe Trump did not endorse in that race either. Again,
it does the Trump endorsement matter in primaries? I say, yes,
it still does.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, And Crenshaw had been openly more Trump critical and
the base decided that they wanted someone else in that slot. Yes,
this is a surprise and I think whereas I was
on the lookout for the Left getting itself in trouble
with more base satisfying candidates than general election satisfying candidates,
(22:18):
I think the Republican Party is also in some danger
of doing that. That doesn't mean that these guys can't
pan out in the h Yeah, but you may build
a harder road for yourself, that's right.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, we do this sometimes, build that harder road for ourselves. Yeah. Look,
in my life, I have always voted for the most
conservative candidate in the race. That's not what this is
all the time. It's not always the most conservative candidate.
It's sometimes the most bombastic or the most angry, or
that kind of thing that doesn't play quite as well
in a general And I think we need to be
(22:51):
careful of that. And I say this to you because
I know you agree with me. But the rest of
the party, I don't know do they agree with us
on this. I think they kind of like the bombastic.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
No. I mean, electability is not a sexy argument.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's really not. Yeah, I don't care. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It's also worth noting there was a really high turnout
for Talla Rico in Latino majority counties. That in many
cases Republicans would of course like to stick around as
Republican voters. In this primary, you could go either way.
You can vote Republican or Democrats. So maybe they just
found the Democratic primary more interesting, a little more spice.
You wanted to vote for Talla Rico, which is what
(23:29):
a lot of those counties did at about sixty percent,
and heavily Latino counties. But it should be of interest
and perhaps concern to Republicans that a lot of these
counties that they hoped would stay Republican are looking like
they're enthusiastically coming out for a Democratic primary. Yeah, we'll
see sign something for the fall.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Texas is you know, I say this Texas is the
whale for Democrats, but you know Virginia used to be
the whale for Democrats. That used to be the state
that I was like, that's never blue. Yeah, so it's
always got to be careful and I never say ever.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Well, there will be a ton of runoffs and we
will keep you posted on those. But also in North Carolina,
a big one expected results. Roy Cooper, who is the
former governor of North Carolina, will be the Senate candidate
for the Democrats and Michael Watley, former R and C chair,
the candidate for Republicans. Watley is not super well known
in the state despite having been the rn C chair.
(24:26):
Cooper is popular, even though he shouldn't be because he
was terrible during COVID and then terrible during Hurricane Helene. Nonetheless,
he is a person who has gotten a lot of passes.
So we'll see what happens there. That is for Tom
Tillis's seat.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah. Meanwhile, tom Beach County in Florida is on the
verge of going red in terms of voter registration. This
is crazy because pom Beach County was traditionally a Blue
county in Florida. Very few Blue counties left in Florida,
Mary Catherine, So you know you have your pick of
county should you choose to make the move.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You know, I'm going to be a Panhandle gal. Yes
to Florida.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
There, I've never been to the Panhandle. Can we go together?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I'm going to be stuck in what really is just
South Georgia and South Alabama.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I love it. Let's go, let's go visit family trips.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know it's gorgeous. It's gorgeous with the you got
the moss off the old oak trees is gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah. So Ron DeSantis retweeted that Palm Beach County's Democrat
advantage collapsed from one hundred and thirty eight thousand to
a little over twelve thousand, and it could tell by
the boat by mail numbers that a lot of those
Blue voters are snowbirds. There was a way to get
snowbirds to not be eligible to vote in Florida. I
(25:46):
would certainly be for that.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Can I point out just on the voter turnout and
flipping states and what have you. Scott Presler, who of
course has done very energetic on the groundwork in Pennsylvania,
New Jersey over the place, he just tweeted this the
other day, and I just want to acknowledge growth in
this position, in this mission for him, because this is
good stuff. We've identified sixteen hundred and fifteen Farsie speaking
(26:10):
voters in Pennsylvania. Out of those, nine hundred and twenty
are registered Democrats. Early Vote Action will have peer to
peer text messages shortly for you to communicate a beautiful
Persian specific message to them. The Republican Party has their
backs like that is not even anything on the table
it is they going to do it going straight to
those people and saying, hi, guests, who just killed Kamani? Right, Look,
(26:34):
it is a very compelling argument. By the way, have
you seen that there's these a viral sound of a
DJ having come Yeah, oh yeah, yeah is dead? Yeah
so good. Yeah, this is the new world.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
It really is. To talk about the twenty twenty eight
primary for a second. Gavin Newsome was at a book
event in Los Angeles and he said some things about
Israel that I think are being portrayed a little bit
harsher than I actually heard them, and I listen, I
don't give Newsom any credit at all, but yah Surelie tweeted.
(27:11):
Newsom said that those who say Israel's at a part I
had stayed are doing so quote appropriately. Newsom said Israel
has been unable to resolve the Hamas issue over the
past couple of years, so how could it possibly get
into the regime change business in Iran. He also alluded
to concerns about Israeli influence on US government decisions. I
hear that, but listening to that clip, it was a
(27:32):
very lefty I just don't like the net and Yahoo
administration kind of clip. I didn't hear anything super new there.
But I still think that it's going to be interesting
to see if the Democrats are really going to be
turning on our main very capable ally in order to
(27:54):
run in their primary. And this could easily be the
beginning of that, you know, being the case where they're
all going to raise their hands and say they oppose
any future alliance with Israel because it's not about the support, right.
I know a lot of people talk about how much
money we give Israel for its defense. All of that
money is spent on American defense systems. No president wants
(28:18):
to cut that is the is the reality of it.
Israel could easily go it alone. The US does not
want them to. And when Newsom says, you know, Israel
has been unable to take out Hamas mostly because we've
tied their hands and the world has tied their hands,
they could absolutely take out Hamas if they did not they.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Out, he's also sort of ignoring the idea that, like
Hamas is living next to the governor's mansion, if we
were to do the analogous situation. So taking out this
this enemy while your hands are being tied is a
very very tough logistical ask when it's right on your
border attacking you daily, that's right, it's really tough to
(29:00):
I think I do appreciate so much having been to Israel,
and I think others should try to visit, because once
you see how close everything is together, you get a
new appreciation for why, right, why the defenses need to
be what they are.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, when they were like, well, you're going to the
north today, Okay, two hours later we're in the north.
You're going to the south today. Two hours later you're
in the south.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Like yeah, yeah, But I do think I think you're
right that, you know, using this kind of language like
aparth that is going to become Normaldard, which, by the way,
if you ever have been to Israel or talk to
anyone who's from there, it's not it's not at all.
So it's just untrue. So saying untrue things about Israel
(29:40):
is probably going to be the part for the course
moving through the twenty twenty eight primary.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, unfortunate, and I hope the Republicans don't succumb to
the same thing. I think the numbers still are overwhelmingly
pro Israel no matter what the Tuckers of the world want.
But we'll see, we'll see what jd Vance is saying
closer to that time.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
A quick note that actually fits with twenty twenty eight
as well is the up and coming governor Abigail Spamberger
of Virginia, whose Democratic run state legislator has been proposing
all sorts of insane things. She had a chance to
moderate last week. She had a chance to moderate because
a forty one year old woman, Stephanie Mentor, was murdered
(30:24):
at a bus stop in northern Virginia. And she was
murdered by an illegal alien who's been in the US
for fifteen years, and during that his time in Northern
Virginia has been arrested on thirty offenses, many of them violent,
including malicious wounding and forcible rape. And he has been
let go or not charged or on the streets every
(30:46):
single time because there is a Soros funded prosecutor in
Fairfax County who doesn't like to prosecute named Steve Discano.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
And after this murder, Abigail Spamberger was asked, as the governor,
would you honor an ice detainer for this man? And
she said, no, go get a warrant. Oh, he has
to commit another crime. I guess in order for them
to come pick up this is just a no brainer.
And there was a Biden former staffer who was like,
(31:16):
this is not passing the test for a modern democrat, Like,
you cannot signal that this is a hard decision for you.
You have to go pick this guy up.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And she's the quote unquote moderate.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
She's the moderate.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Nope, she's mom Donny Wing. Guys. Yeah, doesn't matter how
her suit looks, how boring it is. She's mom Donny Wing.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Right, Ay, right, we'll be right back with more on normally.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
All right, we are back on normally with some good
news out of the Supreme Court, where they gave some
relief to parents who objected to California school systems transitioning
so uly their children without notifying them. And they said, hey,
we feel like this violates our parents' rights and our
religious rights. And the Supreme Court was like, indeed, this
(32:10):
is Amy How writing at the Scotis Blog. The Supreme
Court on Monday granted a request from a group of
California parents to reinstate a ruling by a federal district
court that prohibits schools in that state from misleading parents
about their children's gender presentation, and that require schools to
follow parents' instructions regarding the names and pronouns that children
use there and a seven page order the majority explained
(32:31):
that the parents were likely to prevail on their claim
that California's policies violate the parents' rights to freely exercise
their religion and their right to quote direct the upbringing
and education of their children. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, I was told this never happens. This never happens.
Schools never transition kids behind their parents' backs. And yet
this is a case that reached all the way to
the Supreme Court saying yeah, it does happen. The underlying
case is going to continue through the lower courts, meaning
that this legal fight is actually not over yet because
the injunction is just preliminary. But still it's a big
(33:06):
move to say this is not acceptable, and I think
that that's what the Supreme Court should be should be
saying when people are doing things against the wishes of
the parents.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, it's discouraging, both in this case and the Maryland
Montgomery County School's one that you have to go all
the way to Supreme Court to get relief on your
totally common sensical parents' rights to raise your children as
you see fit. But this is where we are, and
this is how the progressive creek creep into everything and
(33:41):
then make things that were formerly just totally understood by
everyone as cultural norms. They're like, oh, no, that's not
real anymore because we're fighting a culture war and you
got here late. So go to the Supreme Court and
try to get your parents rights back.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah. Well, I hope they win, and I hope that
sanity prevails. I feel like we're moving in the right
direction on this. I don't think that the Democrats are
going to be running on boys can be in girls'
locker rooms this time around, although we'll see, right who
knows what they're going to run on. The primary moves
them all further to the left before they try to
(34:15):
make a bolt for the center and the general. I
hope they get called on all the crazy things that
they believe, and you know, I have to actually state
what those insane things are.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, tell Rico is a signal. I think that they
are interested in moving to the center, to someone, or
at least extricating themselves from twenty twenty tactics and beliefs
to some degree. But also God is non binary, so
you know that's right both, He's got both things going on.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
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