On this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham and Bethany Mandel break down the political stories dominating the week.
First, they dive into Marco Rubio’s standout White House briefing room performance, why his media savvy is fueling fresh 2028 speculation, and how his growing influence inside the Trump orbit could shape the future of the GOP.
Then, they head to California, where the governor’s race is turning into a political disaster for Democrats. From Katie Porter’s controversial debate moments to the rise of Republican contenders like Chad Bianco and Steve Hilton, the political landscape in the Golden State may be shifting fast.
Plus, Mary Katharine and Bethany unpack the alarming spike in anti-Semitic incidents in New York City, the failures of progressive leadership to address rising hate crimes, and what it signals for America’s political and cultural future.
From 2028 Republican tea leaves to California’s political cracks and the growing anti-Semitism crisis, this episode covers the stories shaping the national conversation.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yeah, we're back on normal. So normal it takes the women,
the news gets weird. I am Mary Kathy Ham and
I am here today Bethany, and welcome Bethany. Welcome the
other set half of Stolen Youth. Yes, she is with
she is.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Carol Marco was his co author on that very good book,
which is still pertinent, unfortunately for the country, but good
for the book. Check it out wherever you get good books.
How's it going, man, Thank god, thank god. I can't complain.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
How are you? I'm all right.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know, I made it through camping with the children,
and now we're we're making it through a week. You know,
you have homeschooling, so it's different. But May for the
enrolled kids is wild.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So I hear this and it's like May is my
relaxed month where I'm like, I don't know if we're
really doing school anymore. Let's just let's just stick to
the basics and go to the park.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I look forward to going to the park with you
and doing other things once we get through May.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And then in June, I know we're meeting up to
Uyes to have some fun.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So but until then, I'm hanging on a thread. I, uh.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, it's honestly, it's all of this mental load that
school's put on you that convinces me I want to homeschool,
and I want to continue to homeschool because I don't.
I don't want to do all the things. I want
to do very few things. Actually, your lifestyle doesn't tell
me that about you. But I understand your point.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And when I did homeschool briefly and people like how
could you possibly do that, I can compare. And in fact, yes,
there is a lot put on you from the outside.
And teachers often don't grock that they have four kids
from one family yep, and like that. Giving four times
(01:53):
the assignments is going to be difficult. And I don't
mean assignments for my kids. They can do those, but
assignments for me.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yes, I got stuff to do. Guys on Monday, Let's
do four silly hats. Yeah, that's something I want to
spend my Monday doing. One of my friends sent me so,
And it's not just the teachers who are putting the
mental load, it's also other parents. One of my friends
sent me a photo from her WhatsApp group for her
kids class, and she said, we've decided that our teacher
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appreciation gift is a bouquet of paper flowers. This is
my flower, and here are instructions for each of your
children to create their own paper flower. And so, in
addition to silly hat day, dress up like your favorite
character of literature on Tuesday, all of those things that
the teacher is putting on them, they are also now
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creating craft projects for teacher appreciation. And I think parents
need to be a little bit more ballsy and chime
in on those chats and say, you know what I
think that she would like better than a bouquet of
paper flowers a fifty dollars gift card to Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
My approach is, let me, let me venmo you the
value of a paper flower even plus, and she will
be happier.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
My love language is putting all of that stuff together
for teachers. I'm like everyone venmo me. I'm totally gonna
get audited because people van mo me for the randommest
things like everyone venmo me. And then I will buy
her a five hundred dollars Amazon gift card. Done. I'm in.
I'm in. I don't have the capability to make the
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paper flower.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay, shall we talk about someone who does have a
lot of capabilities, and that is Secretary of State and
many other things. Marco Rubio, my my king. He took
to the took to the podium in the press room,
in the press briefing room this week to uh to
do the thing. You know, Carolyn Loveth is out, she's
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having a baby, excited for her, and he's taking over
on this particular day. And he sort of gave like
a I don't know, a masterclass in answering questions. He's
just quick on his feet. He's good, he's informed, he's likable,
he's answering in native equivalent Spanish. At times it's a
(04:17):
it's a bit of a tour de force.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
My favorite part of that was when he started quoting
song lyrics. He quoted some rap songs. Insane in the
Membrane was one. And I think what happened was before
he stepped to the podium, they said, Okay, how many
song lyrics like obscure random song lyrics can you throw in?
(04:40):
And we will give you fifty bucks for every single
one you pull off? And he did it several times.
He was just peppering in. That was one hundred percent.
I would bet my own money on it that that
was happening behind the scenes. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
The other one was check yourself before you wreck yourself,
which is what he suggested Iran do. Look, he was
just a He just debuted as a DJ at a
family wedding this weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There's a little bit of tape of that.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
He is a guy again. Now are these millennial coded
rap references?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, yes they are.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And I'm proud of him for that. He doesn't need
to be a gen Z guy. He's happy to do
this and so I enjoyed that very much. He's also
just like someone made the point. I believe it was
a woman who used to do PR for Substack, and
she has pretty insightful sort of PR takes and modern
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media takes, and she said, you know, as Ai flattens
the writing space where everyone can kind of plus up
their writing to basically find someone who can speak extemporaneously,
will have a lot more cachet in the future because
you know it's coming from that person. I'm going to
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play a little bit of him being extemporaneous about what
he thinks about about America in the briefing room.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Here he is, I hope for America and it's the
same and deal with that.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Look, I mean my hope for America is what it's
always been. I think it's the hope I hope we
all share. We want it to continue to be the
place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything. Where you're
not limited by the circumstances of your birth, by the
color of your skin, by your ethnicity. But frankly, it's
a place where you are able to overcome challenges and
achieve your full potential. I think that should be the
goal of every country in the world, frankly, but I
think in the US we're not perfect. Our history is
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not one of perfection, but it's still better than anybody
else's history, and ours is a story of perpetual improvement.
Each generation has left the next generation of Americans freer,
more prosperous, safer, and that is our goal as well.
But it is a unique and exceptional country, and as
we come upon this two hundred and fifty year anniversary,
I think we have a lot to learn and be
proud of in our history. It is one of perpetual
and continuous improvement, where each generation has done its part
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to bring us closer to fulfilling the vision that the
founders of this country had upon its founding.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So I think he's thought about that a couple of
times in the past, the future of America and what
makes it you need.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
His speech in Munich, I was like, I don't know,
three four months ago was so incredible that he even
got the Europeans degree with him. They were like, yeah,
he has a point. We are on the decline.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
No, it's a look I never want to get to
in alle of a politician, But this is a guy
who's doing all his jobs well. And I like whenever
I see competence demonstrated a little bit of grace, a
little bit of humor, I feel that I should applaud that. Yeah,
because we don't see it that often anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And when he's having fun, it's that's when you know
what things are going well for America. The day before
we went into Venezuela to take out Maduro, he was
at Mara a Lago, dancing at his at his seat.
And so when I see Marco Robio behaving like he
has the last few days, making jokes at the podium,
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DJing at a wedding, I'm like, I think things are
going well, I think we're kicking some somewhere in the world,
and I'm here for it. As goes, Rubio socoes the nation.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
This, of course has sparked discussion of whether he might
be a twenty twenty eight favorite.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Of course, the heir apparent would be JD. Vance.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But Trump has a lot of affection for Rubio, and
a lot of voters have affection for Rubio. The Atlantic
has a piece that Trump voters like Margot Rubio.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
More and more. This is from some of Sarah Longwell's
focus groups, and yeah, they should. You should like him.
He's good. It's interesting watching what I think is the
horse race beginning to come up. Rick Rennell, who was
running the Kennedy Center, posted pictures of himself at a
festival and he was wearing Vance twenty twenty eight shirt,
(08:53):
which I think was an interesting signal. But reading these
tea leaves I think is really fun. Dan I can
never pousns his name. Yes, thank you. He has been
raw raw Rubio very hard.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I think it's clear that there's license from Trump to
like either of them. He picked Vance, but he has
found himself very close to Rubio. He keeps Rubio seemingly
at his elbow most of the time.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Every time he has an odd job, he throws it
towards Rubio.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So I think there is a permission structure, as they say,
to like Rubio a ton. Do I think that primary
voters might go that direction.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I don't know. I almost daren't wish.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I know, bethany, So, the only time I've ever voted
for a winner was President Trump in this last election.
I've always always fallen behind a loser. I don't My
track record isn't much better than Bill Crystal's, and so
I don't really want to root for anyone lest I
doom them. Yeah, I was a Rubio Gallon in twenty sixteen,
(10:04):
and you're right, maybe we should abstain from from secretly
routing or openly rooting thus lest we jinxed the situation.
I was a Rubio gall in twenty sixteen, and in fact,
I was at the debate where he famously kept repeating himself.
I was one of the commoderators for that debate, and
I was so thankful I hadn't asked the question, and
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in the room, I.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Was like, oh dear, what's Oh dear, what's happening? Oh dear,
But he's.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Had many, many trials by fire since that time and
clearly knows what he's doing at the podium. I also
it's been interesting to watch. It's sort of a little
twenty sixteen flashback to watch him on the stage. And
then Obama's doing this big tour because he's opening his
horrendous looking presidential library in Chicago that is like blotting
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out the sun and is like sort of a death star.
Are I guess of progressive activism is what's going to
be going on there?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah? Yeah, I And what I find most confusing about
what the Obamas have done, especially post presidency, is how
mad they seem. They always seem to have, especially Michelle
really seems to have a chip on her shoulder. She
wrote a whole book about her fashion and then went
on tour and complained that people kept wanting to talk
to her about fashion.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, it does seem like that's part of the gig,
particularly when you're highlighting it in a book.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
That is yew. The promo of the book usually requires
talking about the book. It's like a key component. And
I know I'm not one to talk, but you should
be ready to go.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yes, it's it is part of it. I think it has.
It's been interesting to me too. I think they might.
I get the sense that they're a little surprised how
overtaken by events their legacy has been.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah. Yeah, they really wanted more attention, right, it doesn't
now They to some extent they exited and just like
had fun and did their thing, and I applaud that, like,
go have all your money and hang out in Mors's
vineyard and do the yachts with whoever you do them
with whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I always said that Obama would be a stellar ex
president because he really just wanted to like lecture us
and travel around the world and be on yeats. So
he's doing that. But I think they thought their relevance
perhaps would extend for longer, and it turns out that
Trump takes up all the oxygen and that's not.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Really a possibility for them. Yeah, I mean, I think
also they thought that she was poised to like go
in the footsteps of Bill and Hillary and she would
take his baton, and she, you know, when they left office,
she was still super likable and super liked. I don't
think that's the case anymore. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I also I also buy if you heard my theory
on this, I buy that she never wanted to be
running for office, and that My theory is that a
lot of the off putting stuff she says is just
a campaign to sabotage herself so that the Dems stop
coming to her asking her to run for things. Oh,
that's so funny because she says very off putting things. No,
(13:11):
I think that she is actually very off putting, but
she had a team around her that prevented her from
doing it in the White House, and she doesn't have
that anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, I don't think she wants to run for anything.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
He, on the other hand, is happy to do the
spotlight this week, and apparently it causes issues between them
because she doesn't want him out there fighting drunk quite
as much as he is. That building is really something else,
like what a monument to I don't know, egotism, and
it's perfect intentional ugliness like it's I know it's modern,
(13:41):
but whoa goodness gracious, No, it's perfect for them. They
don't seem perfect for each other, though they seem very unhappy. Well,
she's she speaking of complaints. She has a lot about him.
She's often talking about that in public, yes, which I
don't think is a great look for them and actually
undercuts one of the things I don't like a ton
(14:03):
about Obama. But I thought, like this, he is a
family man. He's there raising his kids, he's married one
woman like this. This is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And she takes shots at it every time she's out
and about.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So all right, well, I appreciate Rubio Rubio style greater
than Obama.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Michelle. Oh yeah, Barack and Michelle style.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Alrighty, we're gonna take a break on normally and we'll
be back in just one moment with some California news.
All right, we are back on normally with some news
out of California, where over and over again the Libs
have to pay the price for their policies, and in
this case, they have a jungle primary for governor to
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replace Gavin Newsom. That means that everyone can run in
the same race. And the idea was when they made
this rule, that it would be two Democrats that end
up the top two finishers and then they go to
the general election. But what has happened is that the
Democrats have made a lot of people mad, and now
two Republicans sit close to the top of this race.
And those two Republicans are Chad Bianco, who's a sheriff
(15:07):
in California, and Steve Hilton, who's.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
A former Fox host.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And so now the Democrats are sort of like, oh no,
it could end up being two Republicans who.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Get out of this jungle primary.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
And that is why Swollwell had to get knocked off
because he was at the top of the list of Democrats.
And he has left the race, leaving behind Katie Porter,
famously abusive of her staff to husband, and her husband
Tom Steyer, famously rich and spends a lot of money
on a lot of elections he loses. And who starred, Oh,
(15:41):
Javier bisera former HHS secretary whose staff has been involved
in major scandals in the last couple of years. They
had a debate on CNN this week, and my goodness,
Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco just stood there grinning at
each other while every one else was like open.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Season on each other. And I enjoyed it very much. Yeah,
it was really wild to watch. It's a very smart
strategy to let the Democrats eat their own because that's
what they're that's what they're good at And you know,
we saw in the in the primary or in the
presidential election, they could not allow themselves a primary because
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they just no one was strong enough to win, and
so they sort of anointed Kamala and anointed Biden before that.
So it's really enjoyable watching them try to function in
a primary process because they can't. They cannot, they can't
do this. None of them are very good. Now, that
might not matter, it's it's California.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
There's a lot of Democrats there. They might just vote
for somebody who's not very good. But as even some
on the left point out, like the state of life
and quality of life in California speaks to a huge
problem with progressive governance. It doesn't matter how good Gvin
Newsome hair looks if everyone can point to the state's
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homelessness problem or the budget or the taxation and say,
how are you possibly letting this happen to everyone? There
was an interesting moment where Katie Porter, of course, signals
how far left and how far into disaster she's willing
to go on policy just to be far left.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Here she is on health care for Leegal limegrants.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Congresswoman Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding healthcare
for undocumented immigrants statewide.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
That's, by the way, what I think Californians deserve as
answers to these questions, Elix and for.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Critics who say that we can't afford unattractiveness of Americans
working very very hard, especially in a really expensive state
like California, to pay for health care for people who
are there illegally. What polling is she doing? What possibly
could motivate her? And it's because she has to, She
has to pass this bar of acceptability on the left.
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But that doesn't make you electable, that doesn't make you
enticing to voters. I wonder if she's trying to actually
get elected, because this is not the actions of someone
who would like to to get to higher off.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
As like you're already broke, like just give it, give
it at least a little bit of a hedge, like, well,
you know, we want to do right by people. I mean,
because Bianga rightly in the in that frame is just
shaking his head like because it's nonsense talk, right. Among
other nonsense talk that she had on the evening was
she was asked about her behavior by Caitlyn Collins and
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she got like a little like a little catch in
her throat when she was talking about said she's taken
responsibility for it many times. She apologized to the person
on the tape, and then she turned it around on
the guys on stage and said, but I don't think
with all this bickering and interrupting i've seen here on
this stage, that anyone should have a question about my temperament,
at which point the sheriff Bianco says, you've been interrupting
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all the rest of us, just like everyone.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
She's like, she's like, she says, here's this is the
funny part. She goes, oh, well, cowboy up Buttercup or
something like Cowboy up cupcake, is what she said. Because
if you're being interrupted by Katie Porter, it's obviously a
privilege and you should not be a woos about it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I mean, she seems to think that, like men and
women are held to different standards, and she's correct. If
a husband had poured hot potato mashed potatoes on their
wife's head, that is a different standard. When I hear
a women woman did it, I'm like, oh, that's not
that's not a good look for you. That's not great.
If a man did that, I'd be like, Oh, that
(19:43):
is path maniac who needs to be nowhere near this.
So she is begiven She's being given a lot of
leeway as a woman, and she seems to think that
she's she's not being given to any advantages by virtue
of the fact that she's a woman. In I have
news for her.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The knives were also out for Besara on a CNN
panel where a former Biden administration official was like, honestly,
he wasn't that good at HHS.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Here's a little bit of that.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
When I saw him in the administration, and I think
a lot of people did, and that it's it's people
understand this. It's he was not effective in governmenting. And
I think that a lot of people in the Biden
administration are talking about this because they realized that he
was not an effective HHS secretary. And if you ask
any cabinet secretary, they would tell you the same thing.
And so I think that there is a I think
(20:34):
people recognize this, and I think this is why Tom
Steyer has gone to the top.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Biden and Harris think that I think there have.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Been I have not spoken with them about it. This
is not the first time that I've heard of yet. Right, Yeah,
So what so she's talking about is a real thing,
and you kind of got a little bit of a
sense of it on the stage tonight, where the attacks
against Besara were not about what he was or wasn't
going to do in California. It was about his record
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in the Biden administration. It was about his character, it
was about his leadership. And I do think that's going
to be a problem. I'm not sure that Joe Biden
adjacent brand is a good brand right now anywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
In this countries.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
And I also think that the HHS situation, when you
dig deeper into what he did in that role, that
could be a problem for him.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh maybe we should have dug deeper when it was happening.
I wish someone had recommended that at the time. If
only someone had thought to themselves, maybe Biden should be
better at governing to create a runway for future Democrats
and make them more appealing. Wow, who would have thought
(21:47):
of such a thing in politics in twenty twenty six. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Once again, much like with Spencer Pratt, I daren't hope
that the state or the city of la could take
a turn in a different direction, but I think they
would all be better off if they would take a
turn in a different direction.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Speaking of political instincts, I've never seen anything like Spencer Pratt.
The best ads, I've ever seen, the best talking points.
And he is facing an opponent who seems committed to
having him win because the things she's hitting him on
are like, well, he doesn't even live here, Yeah, because
(22:23):
you let him his house burned down. It's because you
let that happen. She she creates. She's like paving his
new driveway at the Mayor's manchion, and she's like, here's
all the things that I should have been told by
my consultants to never ever give him an opening for.
And the number one thing is residency. It's his residence,
(22:44):
because that's the whole reason he's doing this whole crazy thing.
I would love him to keep on eating burritos on
social media. I thought that was delightful, But now I'm
pretty sold on his ability to be, you know, running
the entire city of Los Angeles, because I can't. I
don't think it can get worse. No, he's tapping into
a very real thing.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
And I also, I have one more clip that I
want to tell you because it show, because it has
to do with California's policies and the policies of blue
states that they keep running into the results of this
is Nick Christoph of The New York Times at a
you know, one of these global confabs where they all
get together and talk about the things that you and
I knew like a year and a half ago, in
this case literacy. Let's hear Christoph breaking the news to
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a room full of elite liberals.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
We have every bit as much of an affordability crisis,
in part because of a stranglehold of regulations. And you know,
we talk a good game about the importance of education,
and yet a black kid in Mississippi is two and
a half times as likely to be proficient in math
and reading by fourth grade as a black kid in California.
(23:51):
And so happen? I mean, do we need to look
a little bit less at what the Trump had been
is doing to harm working class families and look a
little more in the memory.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is a good question. It's if only someone had
been yelling about the importance of schools six years ago,
wasn't it? Christophf tell you that it was.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
The Grandma Killers and we were out there, yep, but
they are sort of having to face this occasionally.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I don't know if it's enough.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
To make the Katie Porters of the world ever change
their minds about what works and what doesn't, because I
think she's interested in what works to elect her.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
But she's not a very nice lady, so I don't
know if that's going to work out for her. So
we shall keep you posted. We will be back on
normally after this quick message.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
We are back on normally with a little I don't know,
weekly recap of anti Semitism news. We already covered Graham
Platner earlier in the week and how Democrats have decided
that Nazi tattoos mean nothing about a person, don't worry
about it. And now we're on to some more incidents.
There were swastika's painted on I believe, synagogues and memorials
to Crystal Knock victims in Queen's And then there's a
(25:10):
story out of Cornell as well.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, so the the president of the school's car was
surrounded every single day. There are more and more stories
here where I live in Montgomery County. There were messages
posted in spray paint on a on an elementary school,
screw the Jews in Arabic because it wasn't clear enough
(25:35):
who might have been the authors otherwise. Uh No, it's
it's really it's really wild to see the fact that
you know, no kings, no fascis, and YadA YadA, but
the only the only anti Semitism and kings that they
are comfortable with are from from their own side. Yeah,
(25:56):
it's uh.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
This I think that this Fox News coverage kind of
puts a point on it. The New York City released
hate crimes data and some crime data for the year
thus far, and antisemitic incidents in New York City nearly
tripled in January, as other crimes hit record lows. According
to police data released on Tuesday, hate crimes against Jewish
people soaring and eighty two percent, with thirty one reported
(26:19):
incidents versus eleven in January twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's not great, guys. No, And what's wild about those
numbers is that they're not even accurate because the mayorly
appointed NYPD leadership changed the reporting procedures on what constitutes
an anti submitted crime, so we actually don't really have data.
The fact that we have this data and it's that bad.
(26:44):
We have no way of knowing what it actually is.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yes, I believe we discussed this on normally in the
past where they changed the data so it's now apples
to oranges, which makes it very hard to do these comparisons.
But it made it harder to register these crimes in
the current data, which means the fact that we have
this means that you probably have a.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Lot more than this. Yeah, is depressing in its own right.
The entire city is just putting its hands over its
ears and going la la, la, la la, and that's
how they record data.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Zoron Mondani, of course says that he is horrified by
the swastikas painted in Queens, But you note that when
it comes to actual legislation in the city and putting
your money where your mouth is. He did not want
to back protection for Jewish sites and Jewish schools.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Is that correct? Yet he not only didn't want to
back it, he actually vetoed it. It was a city
council bill, a number one seventy five Dashbe that would
have given Jewish schools protections. And fast forward to there
was a real estate event that was happening at a
synagogue at Park East and you know the pro Palestine
(27:52):
Prohamas people decided that they were going to protest that event.
But in order to do that, they they were assembling
in front of the building, which is also a school,
so they had to evacuate the nursery school students who
were there. And had that bill passed, they would have
been prevented from protesting Jewish children. And especially after what
(28:15):
we saw in Michigan an attempted mass assassination of an
entire building of Jewish little children, one would think that
this would be recognized as like a net good for
our like let's not let Jewish children be massacred in
America for the sake of being Jewish. Well, no, no, that's
not what mom naughty is after here. No.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
And also instead, what happened in Michigan was that ad
I'll say ed, who is I think now leading the
Democratic Senate primary in Michigan. He had Hassan Piker campaigning
with him two weeks after the attempted the attempted massacre
by a husband aligned person. Yep, and Hassan Piker himself
(28:58):
has has fanboyd or Hezbola and.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Its flag on many a cage and It's like, can
you imagine if twenty five years ago you had told
yourself that this is what would happen in Michigan in
a Democratic Senate race.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean, it is wild and in Maine too. He
had a and he by the way, Graham Platner, I'm
all for all of us fixating on the fact that
he had a Nazi tattoo. But wait, there's more. I
know he also cheered October seventh and supported those and
like that's a righteous fight. He was cheering that on.
(29:34):
We twenty five years after nine to eleven have people
who think that America had it coming, who are already
serving in Congress and who are trying to serve in Congress,
and there are a plurality of Democratic voters who are like,
that's my guy.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Well, not only like a plurality, that's not only like
it's okay with me, but that's a feature, not a bum.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That's exactly right. That's the difference. Okay, Because this is
like a little bit of downer.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm going to close with a clip of Kemy Badnach,
who is the head of conservative leadership in the UK,
being very morally clear about these incidents and bringing something
that everyone should bring to the table. And she's really
worth listening to for a minute.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Here she is, let's stop pretending that something else is happening.
Thank you. It is it very much?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Is it very much? Is it very much?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Is about Jewish people. And you can say, you can
say all that, you can say all.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
That you like.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
But this is how the nineteen thirty started, with people
pretending not to see what was happening in front of them.
I am not lying.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I can see.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
No, No, I'm telling people. I'm telling people betray and
they will always know that I stand behind Jewish people
when I stand for them.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. You just have to
accept that.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yes, that's too bad. That's too bad. People know where
I stand and I'm not going to be intimidated.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
No, no, no, I am the right. I am the right, and.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I'm very proud of being on the right. I'm not
pandering to the cart right. And what I am doing
is supporting no, no, no, what I'm doing is support
your Jewish people from the sort of ignorance people like
you put out there. And I will never be in Sudata.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Bytes, especially in the wake of the million attacks that
have happened against the community, the Jewish community in England
over the course of the last three weeks, including stabbings
and an October seventh memorial wall being lit up in flames.
That's a thing that needs to be said.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, it's important and I appreciate her doing it. She
sounds great, she keeps her cool. She really owns that
moment alariety. Thank you so much, Bethany for being with us.
Where can we find you at Bethany Sean Dark.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
On Twitter and Instagram. And I have a podcast called
The mom Wars, which you still haven't been on. I know,
we gotta remedy that, all right.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Thanks for being here today, Thanks for joining us on normally.
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Get in touch with us at normally thepod at gmail
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I am here today Bethany, and welcome Bethany. Welcome the
other set half of Stolen Youth. Yes, she is with
she is.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Carol Marco was his co author on that very good book,
which is still pertinent, unfortunately for the country, but good
for the book. Check it out wherever you get good books.
How's it going, man, Thank god, thank god. I can't complain.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
How are you? I'm all right.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You know, I made it through camping with the children,
and now we're we're making it through a week. You know,
you have homeschooling, so it's different. But May for the
enrolled kids is wild.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So I hear this and it's like May is my
relaxed month where I'm like, I don't know if we're
really doing school anymore. Let's just let's just stick to
the basics and go to the park.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I look forward to going to the park with you
and doing other things once we get through May.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And then in June, I know we're meeting up to
Uyes to have some fun.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So but until then, I'm hanging on a thread. I, uh.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, it's honestly, it's all of this mental load that
school's put on you that convinces me I want to homeschool,
and I want to continue to homeschool because I don't.
I don't want to do all the things. I want
to do very few things. Actually, your lifestyle doesn't tell
me that about you. But I understand your point.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And when I did homeschool briefly and people like how
could you possibly do that, I can compare. And in fact, yes,
there is a lot put on you from the outside.
And teachers often don't grock that they have four kids
from one family yep, and like that. Giving four times
(01:53):
the assignments is going to be difficult. And I don't
mean assignments for my kids. They can do those, but
assignments for me.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yes, I got stuff to do. Guys on Monday, Let's
do four silly hats. Yeah, that's something I want to
spend my Monday doing. One of my friends sent me so,
And it's not just the teachers who are putting the
mental load, it's also other parents. One of my friends
sent me a photo from her WhatsApp group for her
kids class, and she said, we've decided that our teacher
(02:23):
appreciation gift is a bouquet of paper flowers. This is
my flower, and here are instructions for each of your
children to create their own paper flower. And so, in
addition to silly hat day, dress up like your favorite
character of literature on Tuesday, all of those things that
the teacher is putting on them, they are also now
(02:46):
creating craft projects for teacher appreciation. And I think parents
need to be a little bit more ballsy and chime
in on those chats and say, you know what I
think that she would like better than a bouquet of
paper flowers a fifty dollars gift card to Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
My approach is, let me, let me venmo you the
value of a paper flower even plus, and she will
be happier.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
My love language is putting all of that stuff together
for teachers. I'm like everyone venmo me. I'm totally gonna
get audited because people van mo me for the randommest
things like everyone venmo me. And then I will buy
her a five hundred dollars Amazon gift card. Done. I'm in.
I'm in. I don't have the capability to make the
(03:32):
paper flower.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay, shall we talk about someone who does have a
lot of capabilities, and that is Secretary of State and
many other things. Marco Rubio, my my king. He took
to the took to the podium in the press room,
in the press briefing room this week to uh to
do the thing. You know, Carolyn Loveth is out, she's
(03:55):
having a baby, excited for her, and he's taking over
on this particular day. And he sort of gave like
a I don't know, a masterclass in answering questions. He's
just quick on his feet. He's good, he's informed, he's likable,
he's answering in native equivalent Spanish. At times it's a
(04:17):
it's a bit of a tour de force.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
My favorite part of that was when he started quoting
song lyrics. He quoted some rap songs. Insane in the
Membrane was one. And I think what happened was before
he stepped to the podium, they said, Okay, how many
song lyrics like obscure random song lyrics can you throw in?
(04:40):
And we will give you fifty bucks for every single
one you pull off? And he did it several times.
He was just peppering in. That was one hundred percent.
I would bet my own money on it that that
was happening behind the scenes. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
The other one was check yourself before you wreck yourself,
which is what he suggested Iran do. Look, he was
just a He just debuted as a DJ at a
family wedding this weekend.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
There's a little bit of tape of that.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
He is a guy again. Now are these millennial coded
rap references?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, yes they are.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And I'm proud of him for that. He doesn't need
to be a gen Z guy. He's happy to do
this and so I enjoyed that very much. He's also
just like someone made the point. I believe it was
a woman who used to do PR for Substack, and
she has pretty insightful sort of PR takes and modern
(05:32):
media takes, and she said, you know, as Ai flattens
the writing space where everyone can kind of plus up
their writing to basically find someone who can speak extemporaneously,
will have a lot more cachet in the future because
you know it's coming from that person. I'm going to
(05:52):
play a little bit of him being extemporaneous about what
he thinks about about America in the briefing room.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Here he is, I hope for America and it's the
same and deal with that.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Look, I mean my hope for America is what it's
always been. I think it's the hope I hope we
all share. We want it to continue to be the
place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything. Where you're
not limited by the circumstances of your birth, by the
color of your skin, by your ethnicity. But frankly, it's
a place where you are able to overcome challenges and
achieve your full potential. I think that should be the
goal of every country in the world, frankly, but I
think in the US we're not perfect. Our history is
(06:25):
not one of perfection, but it's still better than anybody
else's history, and ours is a story of perpetual improvement.
Each generation has left the next generation of Americans freer,
more prosperous, safer, and that is our goal as well.
But it is a unique and exceptional country, and as
we come upon this two hundred and fifty year anniversary,
I think we have a lot to learn and be
proud of in our history. It is one of perpetual
and continuous improvement, where each generation has done its part
(06:49):
to bring us closer to fulfilling the vision that the
founders of this country had upon its founding.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So I think he's thought about that a couple of
times in the past, the future of America and what
makes it you need.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
His speech in Munich, I was like, I don't know,
three four months ago was so incredible that he even
got the Europeans degree with him. They were like, yeah,
he has a point. We are on the decline.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
No, it's a look I never want to get to
in alle of a politician, But this is a guy
who's doing all his jobs well. And I like whenever
I see competence demonstrated a little bit of grace, a
little bit of humor, I feel that I should applaud that. Yeah,
because we don't see it that often anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And when he's having fun, it's that's when you know
what things are going well for America. The day before
we went into Venezuela to take out Maduro, he was
at Mara a Lago, dancing at his at his seat.
And so when I see Marco Robio behaving like he
has the last few days, making jokes at the podium,
(07:55):
DJing at a wedding, I'm like, I think things are
going well, I think we're kicking some somewhere in the world,
and I'm here for it. As goes, Rubio socoes the nation.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
This, of course has sparked discussion of whether he might
be a twenty twenty eight favorite.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Of course, the heir apparent would be JD. Vance.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But Trump has a lot of affection for Rubio, and
a lot of voters have affection for Rubio. The Atlantic
has a piece that Trump voters like Margot Rubio.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
More and more. This is from some of Sarah Longwell's
focus groups, and yeah, they should. You should like him.
He's good. It's interesting watching what I think is the
horse race beginning to come up. Rick Rennell, who was
running the Kennedy Center, posted pictures of himself at a
festival and he was wearing Vance twenty twenty eight shirt,
(08:53):
which I think was an interesting signal. But reading these
tea leaves I think is really fun. Dan I can
never pousns his name. Yes, thank you. He has been
raw raw Rubio very hard.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I think it's clear that there's license from Trump to
like either of them. He picked Vance, but he has
found himself very close to Rubio. He keeps Rubio seemingly
at his elbow most of the time.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Every time he has an odd job, he throws it
towards Rubio.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So I think there is a permission structure, as they say,
to like Rubio a ton. Do I think that primary
voters might go that direction.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I don't know. I almost daren't wish.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I know, bethany, So, the only time I've ever voted
for a winner was President Trump in this last election.
I've always always fallen behind a loser. I don't My
track record isn't much better than Bill Crystal's, and so
I don't really want to root for anyone lest I
doom them. Yeah, I was a Rubio Gallon in twenty sixteen,
(10:04):
and you're right, maybe we should abstain from from secretly
routing or openly rooting thus lest we jinxed the situation.
I was a Rubio gall in twenty sixteen, and in fact,
I was at the debate where he famously kept repeating himself.
I was one of the commoderators for that debate, and
I was so thankful I hadn't asked the question, and
(10:28):
in the room, I.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Was like, oh dear, what's Oh dear, what's happening? Oh dear,
But he's.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Had many, many trials by fire since that time and
clearly knows what he's doing at the podium. I also
it's been interesting to watch. It's sort of a little
twenty sixteen flashback to watch him on the stage. And
then Obama's doing this big tour because he's opening his
horrendous looking presidential library in Chicago that is like blotting
(10:56):
out the sun and is like sort of a death star.
Are I guess of progressive activism is what's going to
be going on there?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah? Yeah, I And what I find most confusing about
what the Obamas have done, especially post presidency, is how
mad they seem. They always seem to have, especially Michelle
really seems to have a chip on her shoulder. She
wrote a whole book about her fashion and then went
on tour and complained that people kept wanting to talk
to her about fashion.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, it does seem like that's part of the gig,
particularly when you're highlighting it in a book.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
That is yew. The promo of the book usually requires
talking about the book. It's like a key component. And
I know I'm not one to talk, but you should
be ready to go.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yes, it's it is part of it. I think it has.
It's been interesting to me too. I think they might.
I get the sense that they're a little surprised how
overtaken by events their legacy has been.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah. Yeah, they really wanted more attention, right, it doesn't
now They to some extent they exited and just like
had fun and did their thing, and I applaud that, like,
go have all your money and hang out in Mors's
vineyard and do the yachts with whoever you do them
with whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I always said that Obama would be a stellar ex
president because he really just wanted to like lecture us
and travel around the world and be on yeats. So
he's doing that. But I think they thought their relevance
perhaps would extend for longer, and it turns out that
Trump takes up all the oxygen and that's not.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Really a possibility for them. Yeah, I mean, I think
also they thought that she was poised to like go
in the footsteps of Bill and Hillary and she would
take his baton, and she, you know, when they left office,
she was still super likable and super liked. I don't
think that's the case anymore. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I also I also buy if you heard my theory
on this, I buy that she never wanted to be
running for office, and that My theory is that a
lot of the off putting stuff she says is just
a campaign to sabotage herself so that the Dems stop
coming to her asking her to run for things. Oh,
that's so funny because she says very off putting things. No,
(13:11):
I think that she is actually very off putting, but
she had a team around her that prevented her from
doing it in the White House, and she doesn't have
that anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, I don't think she wants to run for anything.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
He, on the other hand, is happy to do the
spotlight this week, and apparently it causes issues between them
because she doesn't want him out there fighting drunk quite
as much as he is. That building is really something else,
like what a monument to I don't know, egotism, and
it's perfect intentional ugliness like it's I know it's modern,
(13:41):
but whoa goodness gracious, No, it's perfect for them. They
don't seem perfect for each other, though they seem very unhappy. Well,
she's she speaking of complaints. She has a lot about him.
She's often talking about that in public, yes, which I
don't think is a great look for them and actually
undercuts one of the things I don't like a ton
(14:03):
about Obama. But I thought, like this, he is a
family man. He's there raising his kids, he's married one
woman like this. This is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And she takes shots at it every time she's out
and about.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So all right, well, I appreciate Rubio Rubio style greater
than Obama.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Michelle. Oh yeah, Barack and Michelle style.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Alrighty, we're gonna take a break on normally and we'll
be back in just one moment with some California news.
All right, we are back on normally with some news
out of California, where over and over again the Libs
have to pay the price for their policies, and in
this case, they have a jungle primary for governor to
(14:46):
replace Gavin Newsom. That means that everyone can run in
the same race. And the idea was when they made
this rule, that it would be two Democrats that end
up the top two finishers and then they go to
the general election. But what has happened is that the
Democrats have made a lot of people mad, and now
two Republicans sit close to the top of this race.
And those two Republicans are Chad Bianco, who's a sheriff
(15:07):
in California, and Steve Hilton, who's.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
A former Fox host.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And so now the Democrats are sort of like, oh no,
it could end up being two Republicans who.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Get out of this jungle primary.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
And that is why Swollwell had to get knocked off
because he was at the top of the list of Democrats.
And he has left the race, leaving behind Katie Porter,
famously abusive of her staff to husband, and her husband
Tom Steyer, famously rich and spends a lot of money
on a lot of elections he loses. And who starred, Oh,
(15:41):
Javier bisera former HHS secretary whose staff has been involved
in major scandals in the last couple of years. They
had a debate on CNN this week, and my goodness,
Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco just stood there grinning at
each other while every one else was like open.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Season on each other. And I enjoyed it very much. Yeah,
it was really wild to watch. It's a very smart
strategy to let the Democrats eat their own because that's
what they're that's what they're good at And you know,
we saw in the in the primary or in the
presidential election, they could not allow themselves a primary because
(16:22):
they just no one was strong enough to win, and
so they sort of anointed Kamala and anointed Biden before that.
So it's really enjoyable watching them try to function in
a primary process because they can't. They cannot, they can't
do this. None of them are very good. Now, that
might not matter, it's it's California.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
There's a lot of Democrats there. They might just vote
for somebody who's not very good. But as even some
on the left point out, like the state of life
and quality of life in California speaks to a huge
problem with progressive governance. It doesn't matter how good Gvin
Newsome hair looks if everyone can point to the state's
(17:04):
homelessness problem or the budget or the taxation and say,
how are you possibly letting this happen to everyone? There
was an interesting moment where Katie Porter, of course, signals
how far left and how far into disaster she's willing
to go on policy just to be far left.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Here she is on health care for Leegal limegrants.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Congresswoman Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding healthcare
for undocumented immigrants statewide.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yes, yes, and.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
That's, by the way, what I think Californians deserve as
answers to these questions, Elix and for.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Critics who say that we can't afford unattractiveness of Americans
working very very hard, especially in a really expensive state
like California, to pay for health care for people who
are there illegally. What polling is she doing? What possibly
could motivate her? And it's because she has to, She
has to pass this bar of acceptability on the left.
(18:04):
But that doesn't make you electable, that doesn't make you
enticing to voters. I wonder if she's trying to actually
get elected, because this is not the actions of someone
who would like to to get to higher off.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
As like you're already broke, like just give it, give
it at least a little bit of a hedge, like, well,
you know, we want to do right by people. I mean,
because Bianga rightly in the in that frame is just
shaking his head like because it's nonsense talk, right. Among
other nonsense talk that she had on the evening was
she was asked about her behavior by Caitlyn Collins and
(18:40):
she got like a little like a little catch in
her throat when she was talking about said she's taken
responsibility for it many times. She apologized to the person
on the tape, and then she turned it around on
the guys on stage and said, but I don't think
with all this bickering and interrupting i've seen here on
this stage, that anyone should have a question about my temperament,
at which point the sheriff Bianco says, you've been interrupting
(19:03):
all the rest of us, just like everyone.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
She's like, she's like, she says, here's this is the
funny part. She goes, oh, well, cowboy up Buttercup or
something like Cowboy up cupcake, is what she said. Because
if you're being interrupted by Katie Porter, it's obviously a
privilege and you should not be a woos about it.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I mean, she seems to think that, like men and
women are held to different standards, and she's correct. If
a husband had poured hot potato mashed potatoes on their
wife's head, that is a different standard. When I hear
a women woman did it, I'm like, oh, that's not
that's not a good look for you. That's not great.
If a man did that, I'd be like, Oh, that
(19:43):
is path maniac who needs to be nowhere near this.
So she is begiven She's being given a lot of
leeway as a woman, and she seems to think that
she's she's not being given to any advantages by virtue
of the fact that she's a woman. In I have
news for her.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The knives were also out for Besara on a CNN
panel where a former Biden administration official was like, honestly,
he wasn't that good at HHS.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Here's a little bit of that.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
When I saw him in the administration, and I think
a lot of people did, and that it's it's people
understand this. It's he was not effective in governmenting. And
I think that a lot of people in the Biden
administration are talking about this because they realized that he
was not an effective HHS secretary. And if you ask
any cabinet secretary, they would tell you the same thing.
And so I think that there is a I think
(20:34):
people recognize this, and I think this is why Tom
Steyer has gone to the top.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Biden and Harris think that I think there have.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Been I have not spoken with them about it. This
is not the first time that I've heard of yet. Right, Yeah,
So what so she's talking about is a real thing,
and you kind of got a little bit of a
sense of it on the stage tonight, where the attacks
against Besara were not about what he was or wasn't
going to do in California. It was about his record
(21:02):
in the Biden administration. It was about his character, it
was about his leadership. And I do think that's going
to be a problem. I'm not sure that Joe Biden
adjacent brand is a good brand right now anywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
In this countries.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
And I also think that the HHS situation, when you
dig deeper into what he did in that role, that
could be a problem for him.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh maybe we should have dug deeper when it was happening.
I wish someone had recommended that at the time. If
only someone had thought to themselves, maybe Biden should be
better at governing to create a runway for future Democrats
and make them more appealing. Wow, who would have thought
(21:47):
of such a thing in politics in twenty twenty six. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Once again, much like with Spencer Pratt, I daren't hope
that the state or the city of la could take
a turn in a different direction, but I think they
would all be better off if they would take a
turn in a different direction.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Speaking of political instincts, I've never seen anything like Spencer Pratt.
The best ads, I've ever seen, the best talking points.
And he is facing an opponent who seems committed to
having him win because the things she's hitting him on
are like, well, he doesn't even live here, Yeah, because
(22:23):
you let him his house burned down. It's because you
let that happen. She she creates. She's like paving his
new driveway at the Mayor's manchion, and she's like, here's
all the things that I should have been told by
my consultants to never ever give him an opening for.
And the number one thing is residency. It's his residence,
(22:44):
because that's the whole reason he's doing this whole crazy thing.
I would love him to keep on eating burritos on
social media. I thought that was delightful, But now I'm
pretty sold on his ability to be, you know, running
the entire city of Los Angeles, because I can't. I
don't think it can get worse. No, he's tapping into
a very real thing.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
And I also, I have one more clip that I
want to tell you because it show, because it has
to do with California's policies and the policies of blue
states that they keep running into the results of this
is Nick Christoph of The New York Times at a
you know, one of these global confabs where they all
get together and talk about the things that you and
I knew like a year and a half ago, in
this case literacy. Let's hear Christoph breaking the news to
(23:26):
a room full of elite liberals.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
We have every bit as much of an affordability crisis,
in part because of a stranglehold of regulations. And you know,
we talk a good game about the importance of education,
and yet a black kid in Mississippi is two and
a half times as likely to be proficient in math
and reading by fourth grade as a black kid in California.
(23:51):
And so happen? I mean, do we need to look
a little bit less at what the Trump had been
is doing to harm working class families and look a
little more in the memory.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That is a good question. It's if only someone had
been yelling about the importance of schools six years ago,
wasn't it? Christophf tell you that it was.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
The Grandma Killers and we were out there, yep, but
they are sort of having to face this occasionally.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I don't know if it's enough.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
To make the Katie Porters of the world ever change
their minds about what works and what doesn't, because I
think she's interested in what works to elect her.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
But she's not a very nice lady, so I don't
know if that's going to work out for her. So
we shall keep you posted. We will be back on
normally after this quick message.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
We are back on normally with a little I don't know,
weekly recap of anti Semitism news. We already covered Graham
Platner earlier in the week and how Democrats have decided
that Nazi tattoos mean nothing about a person, don't worry
about it. And now we're on to some more incidents.
There were swastika's painted on I believe, synagogues and memorials
to Crystal Knock victims in Queen's And then there's a
(25:10):
story out of Cornell as well.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, so the the president of the school's car was
surrounded every single day. There are more and more stories
here where I live in Montgomery County. There were messages
posted in spray paint on a on an elementary school,
screw the Jews in Arabic because it wasn't clear enough
(25:35):
who might have been the authors otherwise. Uh No, it's
it's really it's really wild to see the fact that
you know, no kings, no fascis, and YadA YadA, but
the only the only anti Semitism and kings that they
are comfortable with are from from their own side. Yeah,
(25:56):
it's uh.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
This I think that this Fox News coverage kind of
puts a point on it. The New York City released
hate crimes data and some crime data for the year
thus far, and antisemitic incidents in New York City nearly
tripled in January, as other crimes hit record lows. According
to police data released on Tuesday, hate crimes against Jewish
people soaring and eighty two percent, with thirty one reported
(26:19):
incidents versus eleven in January twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's not great, guys. No, And what's wild about those
numbers is that they're not even accurate because the mayorly
appointed NYPD leadership changed the reporting procedures on what constitutes
an anti submitted crime, so we actually don't really have data.
The fact that we have this data and it's that bad.
(26:44):
We have no way of knowing what it actually is.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yes, I believe we discussed this on normally in the
past where they changed the data so it's now apples
to oranges, which makes it very hard to do these comparisons.
But it made it harder to register these crimes in
the current data, which means the fact that we have
this means that you probably have a.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Lot more than this. Yeah, is depressing in its own right.
The entire city is just putting its hands over its
ears and going la la, la, la la, and that's
how they record data.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Zoron Mondani, of course says that he is horrified by
the swastikas painted in Queens, But you note that when
it comes to actual legislation in the city and putting
your money where your mouth is. He did not want
to back protection for Jewish sites and Jewish schools.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Is that correct? Yet he not only didn't want to
back it, he actually vetoed it. It was a city
council bill, a number one seventy five Dashbe that would
have given Jewish schools protections. And fast forward to there
was a real estate event that was happening at a
synagogue at Park East and you know the pro Palestine
(27:52):
Prohamas people decided that they were going to protest that event.
But in order to do that, they they were assembling
in front of the building, which is also a school,
so they had to evacuate the nursery school students who
were there. And had that bill passed, they would have
been prevented from protesting Jewish children. And especially after what
(28:15):
we saw in Michigan an attempted mass assassination of an
entire building of Jewish little children, one would think that
this would be recognized as like a net good for
our like let's not let Jewish children be massacred in
America for the sake of being Jewish. Well, no, no, that's
not what mom naughty is after here. No.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
And also instead, what happened in Michigan was that ad
I'll say ed, who is I think now leading the
Democratic Senate primary in Michigan. He had Hassan Piker campaigning
with him two weeks after the attempted the attempted massacre
by a husband aligned person. Yep, and Hassan Piker himself
(28:58):
has has fanboyd or Hezbola and.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Its flag on many a cage and It's like, can
you imagine if twenty five years ago you had told
yourself that this is what would happen in Michigan in
a Democratic Senate race.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean, it is wild and in Maine too. He
had a and he by the way, Graham Platner, I'm
all for all of us fixating on the fact that
he had a Nazi tattoo. But wait, there's more. I
know he also cheered October seventh and supported those and
like that's a righteous fight. He was cheering that on.
(29:34):
We twenty five years after nine to eleven have people
who think that America had it coming, who are already
serving in Congress and who are trying to serve in Congress,
and there are a plurality of Democratic voters who are like,
that's my guy.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Well, not only like a plurality, that's not only like
it's okay with me, but that's a feature, not a bum.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
That's exactly right. That's the difference. Okay, Because this is
like a little bit of downer.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm going to close with a clip of Kemy Badnach,
who is the head of conservative leadership in the UK,
being very morally clear about these incidents and bringing something
that everyone should bring to the table. And she's really
worth listening to for a minute.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Here she is, let's stop pretending that something else is happening.
Thank you. It is it very much?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Is it very much? Is it very much?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Is about Jewish people. And you can say, you can
say all that, you can say all.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
That you like.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
But this is how the nineteen thirty started, with people
pretending not to see what was happening in front of them.
I am not lying.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I can see.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
No, No, I'm telling people. I'm telling people betray and
they will always know that I stand behind Jewish people
when I stand for them.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. You just have to
accept that.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yes, that's too bad. That's too bad. People know where
I stand and I'm not going to be intimidated.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
No, no, no, I am the right. I am the right, and.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I'm very proud of being on the right. I'm not
pandering to the cart right. And what I am doing
is supporting no, no, no, what I'm doing is support
your Jewish people from the sort of ignorance people like
you put out there. And I will never be in Sudata.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Bytes, especially in the wake of the million attacks that
have happened against the community, the Jewish community in England
over the course of the last three weeks, including stabbings
and an October seventh memorial wall being lit up in flames.
That's a thing that needs to be said.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, it's important and I appreciate her doing it. She
sounds great, she keeps her cool. She really owns that
moment alariety. Thank you so much, Bethany for being with us.
Where can we find you at Bethany Sean Dark.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
On Twitter and Instagram. And I have a podcast called
The mom Wars, which you still haven't been on. I know,
we gotta remedy that, all right.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Thanks for being here today, Thanks for joining us on normally.
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