What motivates a 19-year-old conservative activist to travel the country debating politics on college campuses despite security threats and intense opposition?
On this episode of The Karol Markowicz Show, Karol sits down with rising political commentator Brilyn Hollyhand, author of the upcoming book Make America Talk Again. Brilyn shares how a fourth-grade mock election sparked his passion for politics, how an early interview with Charlie Kirk shaped his career, and why he believes America’s biggest problem isn't that people talk too much—it's that they no longer talk to each other.
The conversation explores free speech on college campuses, political polarization, faith, leadership, social media, President Trump's connection with young voters, and the challenges of being a young conservative voice in today's culture. Brilyn also discusses the personal impact of security threats, his commitment to campus engagement, and the role his Christian faith plays in guiding his mission.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
My guest today is Brilin Hollyhand. He's a nineteen year
old political commentator and the author of the upcoming book
Make America Talk Again. Brilin, it's so nice to have
you on, Carol.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thanks for having me. I'm a fan of the show.
I love this It's the coolest format, and so I've
been waiting to get to come on. I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Thank you so much. I really love hearing that. Brilan,
you're nineteen. I don't understand how you know so much.
I didn't know anything when I was nineteen. How do
you do this?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah? I got interested in politics a little bit earlier
than most. It was the fourth grade. I'm really bad
at math. This do politics me too? Yeah, here we go,
we go if you do the math right though. That
was around the time in the twenty sixteen election, so
it was obviously like a super divisive time in the country.
And it's honestly, I mean you've probably heard it a
time that scared a lot of people away from politics
instead of drew people in and twenty time. I'm like
(00:58):
twenty sixteen brought me into politics, Like, are you crazy,
Like that's why I get it? Yeah, yeah, it was insane.
And I didn't, you know, come towards politics because I
was a junkie for the divisor and I actually wanted
to try to fix some of it. I saw that
there were two adults screaming at each other, and I
thought that maybe there were young people that could come
in and kind of mediate some of that, you know,
some of the hot issues. But it was pretty innocent.
(01:19):
I didn't really know a lot about it. I had
learned about political parties and history class or anything. It
genuinely started because we had this mock election in my
fourth grade library back in elementary school, and we had
ballot boxes. There was a red ballot box and a
blue ballot box, and all of my friends kept voting
in the blue ballot box because they were guys and
like the color blue. And I was like, no, no, no,
like I feel like there's more to this, Like I
(01:40):
think we need to do our research. And again I
didn't know who was running. I didn't know what election
it was. I had no idea, but I knew that
we had like a lack of information and lack of knowledge,
and that kind of frustrated me, and so all of
this started my podcast. The newsletter, what turned into books
and speaking tours all came from me simply just wanted
young people to know information, and from that election cycle,
I started the podcast and it just kind of gave
(02:02):
me a format like this to just get to talk
to young people.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Are you telling me you started a podcast in fourth grade? Yes,
I have a fourth grader. Oh, I mean he has
a YouTube channel like every kid in the world. Yeah,
but no, he's not breaking down political arguments of the day.
He's more like posting which basketball players you think sucks?
(02:27):
That's yeah, Look, I mean everybody has to do that
from time to time. How did your parents react to
you becoming a political commentator in fourth grade?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I think they probably had some of the same same
thoughts that you just said about your son, Like it
was just kind of a hobby. It was on the side,
He's just starting this page just for fun and genuinely
like that's what it was. There were seven subscribers for
my first year on YouTube. It was my aunt's uncle's
grandparents kind of has going on. He awkward, thanks, and
if they didn't subscribe, that was the only reason they
were there and like it was super cool to get
(02:59):
to do it. But I kept trying to make this
content and nobody was going to listen to just a
fourth grader, and so I would try to have guest
on the mayor, the city council members, the local doll catcher,
like nobody would give the fourth grader chance, like there
was no chance that they would come on. And I
DMed Charlie Kirk he was coming to speak at a
campus like in my hometown, and I asked for ten
(03:19):
minutes of his time, and the generous Charlie that you
and I knew, gave me thirty. And he was the
first episode I ever did. And so after that, leaving
that interview, my parents had to drive me. It was
again fourth grade, no Licenser. We were kind of like, wow,
like you really enjoyed that, didn't you? Like that was
like really cool. And I remember that night being like
I think I might want to do this, and I
remember my mom looking at me and being like, if
(03:40):
you want to do this, like if you want this
to be what you do, you know outside of school,
we will help buy you know, like the podcast microphones
and help pay for travel because the analogy she made
was that this is your tea ball. Your friends that
are out there doing you know, travel ball. They're going
to get the best pats and they're going to get
the hotel rooms at all these travel ball tournaments and conferences,
and they'll spend the week at the beach doing this tournament.
(04:01):
In their mind, that's what you do for your kids.
She's like, we'll do this for you. And they didn't
have to do that, Like, you know, the parents could
have easily been like, this is dangerous, this is risky politics,
like you're crazy. Ever since day one, even up till today,
my parents traveled every speech. They don't have to do that.
So very generous.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's really wonderful, Brilin. What did you ask Charlie Kirk
when you were a fourth grade interviewer?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, so we started going through some of the backlash
that he had gotten. This is one of the first
years he was ever speaking on campuses himself, and so,
I mean this is I was eleven, so it was
almost I mean, what nine or ten years ago was crazy.
And this is when Charlie was first coming out of
the scene. The day before our interview, he was on
(04:43):
Fox for one of the first times because he was
sitting at a restaurant and you might remember this, some
protesters came and threw water on him while he was
sitting outside of a restaurant, and it became this huge
news story that this kid that was speaking on campuses
got like protested just out in public at a restaurant.
And to the whole point of the interview, it's like, Hey,
I'm a young conservative. I have an audience of young conservatives.
(05:04):
I want people to know like, yes, it's scary to
speak out, but like you get attacked and you still
speak out. And so that's kind of the questions I
was asking. But you'll like this the very final thing
I asked, And I mean, his team has been rapping
us for minutes and he's still generous and please please
kid like the sandbox and keep playing and give give
us Charlie back. And he kept giving me time, and
(05:26):
so it' say, okay, final question. You know what would
you give a piece of advice like to me? Like
I all I want to do is help, Like I
just want to be somebody that can help inspire young people.
Can you give me anything, just one thing to take
away and it'll be kind of like my homework assignment
is the way I phrased it to him, and he goes,
remember this, the left will always out fundraise you. They
will always have the biggest owners, the biggest pockets, but
(05:47):
they'll never outwork you. You control how hard you work,
how early you wake up, how many states you visit
them one day. You have full control over that, and
they can't take that away from you. And Carol, you
know that they could not work Charlie. They had to
kill him every single day. This man went to as
many campuses, knew the risk of it, and still did it.
And so when I think back, like the moment I
was sitting in English class and found out about the assassination,
(06:08):
my first thought was he was right. They could never
outwork him. They never did.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, wow, what a story. Really, it really encapsulates who
he was. And the outwork message is one that conservatives
to really take to heart. We will never be outreaded,
you know that, will never out raise them, will never
have more media coverage, no matter how much new media
there is. But the outwork line is it really stays
with me. What is make America talk again going to
(06:33):
be about? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So it's it's a pretty cool, you know, kind of
time in my life. So the first time I wrote
a book, it was called one Generation Away.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Sorry, what number book is?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
This? Now's book?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And you're making me feel really bad about my career.
I had one book. I'm not writing any others yet.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yes, coming. So I did my first book right before
the twenty four election because I was in high school
and go into campuses with Charlie and trying to get
young people to vote, and none of them understood what
was important about the elections. I wrote that book One
Generation Away after that Reagan quote of like our freedoms
one generation away, this is why you should vote. So
(07:12):
now I'm kind of in a different phase of life.
I'm a college freshman and it's only been two years.
I wasn't planning to write another book to at least
I graduated college, but the assassination happened. And I've been
on this campus tour for the past semester, going to
these places, and what I keep hearing from people, and
I think you've seen this as well, just yourself. We
don't have a problem where we're talking too much. We're
(07:33):
actually not talking enough. Like we've perfected the art of
screaming We've perfected the art of rage posting, we've perfected
the art of even assassinations. But we can't talk. We
can't just stand in a line and debate each other
and have conversations. Every single campus I've been to since September,
every single one. We've done over ten campuses. Every time
we do a debate, there's some kind of security threat.
(07:54):
Either somebody rushes up, somebody tries to get in, somebody protests.
Something happens, and we can't just talk. Like I can't
just stand in front of the room and just let
people ask questions and it's okay if they disagree. I
want disagreement. Like the first thing I say is, if
you disagree, come to the front of the line, Like
I want to figure out where we can find common ground.
So the book, the whole point of it is to
encourage us to make America talk again. I got the
(08:14):
idea when I was working for President Trump. We were
doing this campaign. I was in charge of the youth
outreach for the AUDIENC. I was on that council and
they were coming up with themes. So for the Convention
of Milwaukee back in twenty four, they were like, make
America Wealthy Again was one night and Make America Strong
Again was one night. And when it got to my
turn of the zoom call, I said, oh, what if
we make America talk again? And they all kind of laughed.
They're like, what does that mean? And so we ended
(08:35):
up not using the idea, but now I think we
need to talk more than we did in twenty four,
like it's so important. Yeah, and so we were coming
up for a name for the book, I was like,
that's what it is. I get to debate, I get
to talk. Basically, it's a ten step how to guide
of how to talk to your neighbors. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Are you afraid with the security threats that you get?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'll tell you this. I never had to think about
it until the past few months. Like it was just
kind of I'm the kid that walks in and gets
to talk and then I just go back to class
like I can kind of like have two different worlds.
And in September, when the assassination happened, kind of everything
changed really quickly. Yes, definitely was afraid. There was a moment.
(09:13):
It was, you know, probably less than a week after
the funeral when I started getting some requests to go
to some of these chapters, and so we're sitting down
and we're looking at like which ones could be safe,
which ones couldn't be safe? And I remember how to
think about that. And my security team plopped down a
binder in front of me, like a thick binder, and
I was like, Oh, is this the homework I missed,
you know, like when we were you know, funeral and
(09:35):
all this stuff, Like is this what this is? And like, no,
this is the death threat you've gotten in the last
twelve hours. Because are the people that have It's raised
to the level that we've like flagged it, like they
either know your location, they know where you're about to be.
It's not just oh I wish I could do something
to him, it's they know something. So we've printed it
out to file away. And I kind of paused and
I stood up and I don't really tell people this often,
(09:57):
but I'll tell you just because you kind of understand
how like severe this is. I walked out of the
room and I was like, I really could step away,
Like right now, I could put the microphone down. Everybody
would understand, nobody would blame me. I'm breathing, my friend.
I could focus on school. I could have a million
different excuses to step away. And I don't know if
you remember the story of Isaiah and the Bible Isaiah six,
(10:19):
but there's this big rush of angels and the voice
of the Lord. But Isaiah walked into a temple one night,
and the Lord says to Isaiah, whom shall I send?
And for context, Isaiah wasn't some biblical scholar. He didn't
have a long beard or a white robe or like
any kind of experience. He was just like a young guy.
And if I was Isaiah, I would have looked around
(10:39):
the temple being like, surely God's not talking to me,
like somebody else behind me, And I got in the
way of God and some pharisee and God's calling him.
I just happened to stand in the middle of it.
But Isaiah didn't say, I'll go if you make it easy.
I'll go for you make it faief, I'll go if
you make it comfortable. As everybody knows, Isaiah said, here,
I am send me. And so I'm standing in the
hallway outside the room, and I'm pacing like I can't
(11:01):
disobey God, like these doors are opening. I didn't I
don't know why they're opening. But they're here, and I
can't be like, oh, sorry, God, I'm too scared. Close
them away, send somebody else, and you have to agree
that exactly. I was at ut Martin this past weekend
and we had some pretty serious security threats there as well.
I mean months since assassination, but still pretty serious this weekend,
to the point of our team walks in and they're like, okay,
(11:22):
you can fully cancel, like we're recommending right now that
it is probably best if you step away, you fly home,
you cancel right now. We'll tell the audience to go home.
And that verse came back up here. I am, send me,
and you just put your trust in the Lord. I
know when I walk into an event like that with
my dad traveled with me this weekend. My mom was
at home with my sister. My sister had prom. She's
still in high school. I called my mom walking on
stage and I was like, hey, I love you. I
(11:44):
don't know what's about to happen. I know there's audience,
but that's one of those things you know, going in there.
It doesn't mean that I'm stronger or tougher or not afraid.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It does mean a little bit that you are stronger
and tougher you are.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But like, it doesn't it doesn't mean that I'm numb
to it, Like I definitely still am scared walking up there,
but it means that I'm doing it with God, like
I'm not doing it by myself. I'm not just standing
up there just it's the Browlin Show. It's Hey, God
called this. If he wanted to close the door, he
could tomorrow, But as long as he keeps it open,
We're gonna keep walking through it.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Briylan, what a story. That is just amazing the way
you describe it. And I feel like you're walking with God.
I feel like God is directing you, and it's really
just so beautifully said. We're going to take a quick
break and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show.
What are you most proud of in your life?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'll tell you. I just came from the dining hall
here on campus, so I do all these interviews in
the corner of my dorm room. So like a fun
setup right now. I just came from the dining hall
and in the span of probably the thirty minutes I
was sitting at lunch with my friends, it started with
one classmates. I guess somebody a student on campus coming
up and heckling me and telling me to get the
(12:57):
f off of campus. I have no place here, How
dare I? I, you know, have the right to eat
lunch at the campus I paid tuition at. And then
it's yeah, it's like thirty minutes ago. And then a
few minutes later somebody came up and was like, hey,
I was terrified to speak out, and so I started
watching your videos and now I share scripture to my
story and now I share Charlie Kirk videos on my Twitter,
(13:19):
like I share stuff now publicly because of you, and
that's what I'm proud of stuff. So you have the
craziness that we talked about, the assassinations, the attempts of people,
the threats you have, the people that come up and
heck with you while you're having lunch with your college
buddies in the Dinad hall. But it's worth it because
on the other side, that girl came up and she
was like, and the genuine story from her was I
spoke on my campus a few months ago. I got
(13:40):
to do like a Q and E here, and she said,
I was too scared to come to your EVENTU was.
I didn't want people to know I was a christianer conservative.
I didn't want them to know that, you know, I
was wanting to be associated with y'all because I was
afraid I get kicked out of this, blackmailed from this,
lose these friends. But she says, now I'm boldly sharing stuff.
I'm boldly saying stuff in class. That's what I'm proud
of stuff. If I can look back and say one
more person was a little bit more bolder, that, that's
(14:02):
it's all worth it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Incredible. I think you're genuinely born to do this, Like
I see that in you. But what would you be
doing had this not worked out, had this not been
the path that you were on. I mean, you're only nineteen.
You could still you know, have seven more careers. But
what would it be? What would plan be be? For Brylin?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So I always growing up, so I was going to
be a teacher, Like I kept playing teacher back in
our playroom back at home, and so I would like
set up little like mock classrooms and bring my parents
and teach them stuff. And I kind of get to
do that now, like I teach gen Z about politics,
not in like an education field more in like a
social media field. So possibly that I'm obsessed with golf.
It's my favorite thing. Yes, so I dream would be
(14:44):
to be a like PGA golfer, but it's like the
hardest possible thing. I'm in no way a good golfer.
I just I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think everybody says that about their golf game.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm not a good golfer, not at all, So like
maybe that that could be fun. But also this is
just a fun tibit that most people don't know about me.
I'm also obsessed with antiques. So anytime we're traveling, my
team knows if we have more than thirty minutes of
free time, whatever brandom city I'm about to speak in,
they've got to find an antique store and just give
me thirty minutes to walk through and look at some stuff.
And so all the stuff behind me, I've picked up
(15:14):
an antique stores just different places across the country. So
maybe I would like just retire and open up an
antique store. And I could still totally do that, like
I could just sit there. You can't look like t
other things before.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You do that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So maybe maybe I take a high addition of politics
tomorrow and work on the golf game. Spend some time
with that. Come back around twenty twenty eight, do politics
and maybe do antiquing.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I was gonna say, maybe when you retire, like twenty three,
you could play golf and do antiquing. My middle son
is super into antiquing.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Also sweet.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
He's really into history, so he loves going in tantique
stores and looking around.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And are there good antique stores in Florida?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So yes, well not so much. I don't know about
antique stores. I don't really go to the antique stores
that much. Some occasionally I'll go with him. But the
Facebook marketplace and learning, because it's somewhere that people retire
sadly as it is when they pass all their stuff
goes on Facebook marketplace. So my middle son just had
his bar mitzvun. The theme was time travel and I
(16:14):
got like antique suitcases and telephones for his decor. It
was really really cool. I have a typewriter. I got
a typewriter.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, with the whole wall here in my dorm right
behind this camera is filled with different antique microphones. So
going all the way from like as early as to
like the rush themball type microphones. It's just all right
here because this is what I love. I love you knowing,
and so it's kind of a cool. It ties in
my antique passion and my political passion. So it's fun.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I love that. I'm going to look around for microphones,
and I'll let you know.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Give us a five year out prediction can be about
anything at all.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, five years. I turned twenty next month. Five years, happy,
ripe old age of twenty five. I'd be about ready
to retire by then, I would say twenty five, I
would hope to be starting a family and kind of
settling down in that mindset of like getting married probably
you know, maybe having a first kid sometime in that range.
(17:13):
I would love to like have some more clarity in
that area kind of to get ready. I've kind of
in the past few months been figuring out, like, Okay,
what is a work life balance in this job? You know,
it's kind of crazy, like it's like a twenty four
to seven there's not really hours stops. Yeah, and so
I'm kind of using like my friends here on campus
like as a practice to like make time, like, okay,
(17:36):
one night a week, I'm making sure that we're going
to you know, like have dinner, or we're one one
day week we're gonna go play golf something. So I
make time for myself one day that would be say
a why for kids. I'm trying now to kind of plan, yeah, myself,
how to.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Carve out put a girlfriend, breaking some news on the
Carrol Marco.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Unfortunately, it's been hard to keep relationships when I travel
so much. Yeah, so it's I wish I could have
better news for you.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I thinks posted.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I definitely will, because it's not my lack of trying,
it's the I'm not here and so it's so hard.
Like we did four states last week, We'll do three
states next week. It's just hard to be gone so much.
And when I'm here, I'm really just here to take
some exams and then I got to help another flight.
So it's just it's not the easiest in the world
to keep a relationship. But my goal five years from
(18:24):
now will be to start kind of figuring that out,
starting a family, and hopefully be able to say that
we've maybe doubled the campuses have gone to that year,
because I want to start getting to go to more campuses.
That's what I love the most. People are terrified of it,
with good reason, as we've discussed, but I like getting
to sit face to face of somebody. I can make
Instagram videos all day and they reach more people than
(18:45):
the campus speeches do. But campuses, I can look somebody
in the eye and see the heart and see the confusion,
the frustration, and still think the policy that they're spouting
is insane, but understand where they're coming from. Like I
can see that they mean it. They don't understand what
they're saying, but they they mean it. And I can
kind of like have a more fruitful debate than I
could say on TikTok live for an Instagram video. So
(19:07):
I want to keep doing campus debate. So maybe we'll
say start a family and be doubling.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Family on the road.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
That would be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I like it, yeah, And I get it. That human
connection that you'll see when you're face to face with someone.
It just it is not replicable online. I've made a
lot of friends online, don't get me wrong, but meeting
the face to face, the seeing somebody in person is
really what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's huge, and I really think like that's why Trump
won the election. Kamala had a better start social media
game because just the Dems had more money in social media.
But if we look back, like political scientists will spend
decades on this. But here's the free answer on the
Carol Show, I really think that she lectured us through
a phone screen. And Trump went to campuses. Him and
(19:51):
I walked into Braddenny Stadium. He's throughout hot dogs and
student section. He went to Iowa's University. He asked to
tour a house.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I wanted to add.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It was just there. He didn't. He used TikTok, but
he didn't win because of TikTok. It was an adjacent
to it. He went to campuses. So that face to
face is what Charlie did so well. Nobody talks about.
I mean, Charlie's podcast is great. Nobody talks about that.
They talk about Charlie's debates like Kim on the campus
face to face. He didn't have to do that. He
would still be a live Carol if he's set in
the comfortable podcast. He chose to go to campuses. He
(20:20):
knew the risk and he knew the reward from it.
He knew that people could you know, come and understand
him more if he was there in person.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, you know, I would say I got a lot
wrong about Trump. I'll admit that. But the thing that
I most got wrong about him, and I knew, you know,
he was Donald Trump. He was in New York. I
grew up in New York. He was just in the
background of my life, you know, the whole way through.
But the thing that I didn't think he'd be able
to do in twenty sixteen, I was like, he's kind
of a germ of phobe. He doesn't like shaking hands.
(20:47):
I'm like, he's not going to like being among people.
Could not be more wrong about that. He gets so
much of his strength from being in these crowds. It's
amazing to watch.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's huge. The last time I was with him in person,
he was about to walk out and speak at the
University of Alabama commencement and he was giving the graduation
address there, and so we're backstage and they I got
to wait and talk to him out before he went out,
and I'm catching him up. I was supposed to talk
about youth numbers for the midterms. So I come in.
I know I have like three minutes before they pull
(21:19):
them go on stage and I'm trying to get these
stats in his head, and I'm like, if we go
to this state and do this and do this, and
he's like, yeah, yeah, how many people are out there?
And I was like, I think fifteen thousands. I think
I think that's the capacity. And he's like, how many
hands you think I can shake? And I was like,
I'm not, I'm not sure. Sure that's not I was like,
but if we could Georgia and we reached to this
and you post this video like I'm trying to go
through stats and these gaya, do you think I could
(21:40):
shake all the graduates hands and they get pictures with
all of them, And I was like, sure, you're the president,
like the plane whatever, Like he didn't have to do that.
He could have walked in, he could give him a speech,
he could have flown home golf the next day. He
stood shook all the hands because that's.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
He loves it. He really truly loves it, and that's
what makes it special for him. I mean, that's what
makes all the difference. We're going to take a quick
break and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. Breilyn,
you are super cool. I've loved this conversation. I've love
getting to know you a little bit. Better leave us
here with your best tip for my listeners on how
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they can improve their lives.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Ooh, that's a good one. Okay. I would say make
sure your relationship with God is number one. I do
a lot of things every day. I've got a pretty
good routine, whether I'm here at college and a hotel,
traveling whatever. I read a bunch of articles, I host
a certain amount of videos aday. The one routine that
keeps me grounded to stay a normal saying human being
(22:42):
is every single day. If I'm at a hotel bed,
if I'm at my dorm bed, if I'm back home
wherever I am, I start the day in quiet time
and prayer. So before I check the news, see what
I missed when I was sleeping. Before I read the articles,
I start reading through scripture and make that time. Three
days a week. I hop on FaceTime calls with different
groups of friends. So summer back call in my hometown
like high school buddies, some are college friends, and we
(23:03):
can hop on whether I'm speaking somewhere or not, I
can like still be face to face with them. Centering
your life around people that you can grow in relationship
with God with helps tremendously. So let's say tomorrow I
might talk to my staff about, oh, I'm struggling with
getting this speech ready or getting this video out. They
can handle that. But who am I going to go
to if I'm struggling with this thing with God or
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I'm struggling with this and I need to go, have
just some guys to be around and like pray with.
That's the most important thing. So I can't emphasize enough
centering yourself with those good Christian men, making the time
in your life to just genuinely sit and read scripture.
You can come up with a bunch of substitutes for it.
You can do a bunch of self help books, you
can meditate, you can do yoga, whatever. Start the day
(23:44):
with scripture. Though I cannot think of something more important.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I love it. He is Brian Hollyhand. Check out his
upcoming book Make America Talk Again. Thank you so much
Brylin for coming out girl.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I appreciate you.
Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
My guest today is Brilin Hollyhand. He's a nineteen year
old political commentator and the author of the upcoming book
Make America Talk Again. Brilin, it's so nice to have
you on, Carol.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thanks for having me. I'm a fan of the show.
I love this It's the coolest format, and so I've
been waiting to get to come on. I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Thank you so much. I really love hearing that. Brilan,
you're nineteen. I don't understand how you know so much.
I didn't know anything when I was nineteen. How do
you do this?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah? I got interested in politics a little bit earlier
than most. It was the fourth grade. I'm really bad
at math. This do politics me too? Yeah, here we go,
we go if you do the math right though. That
was around the time in the twenty sixteen election, so
it was obviously like a super divisive time in the country.
And it's honestly, I mean you've probably heard it a
time that scared a lot of people away from politics
instead of drew people in and twenty time. I'm like
(00:58):
twenty sixteen brought me into politics, Like, are you crazy,
Like that's why I get it? Yeah, yeah, it was insane.
And I didn't, you know, come towards politics because I
was a junkie for the divisor and I actually wanted
to try to fix some of it. I saw that
there were two adults screaming at each other, and I
thought that maybe there were young people that could come
in and kind of mediate some of that, you know,
some of the hot issues. But it was pretty innocent.
(01:19):
I didn't really know a lot about it. I had
learned about political parties and history class or anything. It
genuinely started because we had this mock election in my
fourth grade library back in elementary school, and we had
ballot boxes. There was a red ballot box and a
blue ballot box, and all of my friends kept voting
in the blue ballot box because they were guys and
like the color blue. And I was like, no, no, no,
like I feel like there's more to this, Like I
(01:40):
think we need to do our research. And again I
didn't know who was running. I didn't know what election
it was. I had no idea, but I knew that
we had like a lack of information and lack of knowledge,
and that kind of frustrated me, and so all of
this started my podcast. The newsletter, what turned into books
and speaking tours all came from me simply just wanted
young people to know information, and from that election cycle,
I started the podcast and it just kind of gave
(02:02):
me a format like this to just get to talk
to young people.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Are you telling me you started a podcast in fourth grade? Yes,
I have a fourth grader. Oh, I mean he has
a YouTube channel like every kid in the world. Yeah,
but no, he's not breaking down political arguments of the day.
He's more like posting which basketball players you think sucks?
(02:27):
That's yeah, Look, I mean everybody has to do that
from time to time. How did your parents react to
you becoming a political commentator in fourth grade?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I think they probably had some of the same same
thoughts that you just said about your son, Like it
was just kind of a hobby. It was on the side,
He's just starting this page just for fun and genuinely
like that's what it was. There were seven subscribers for
my first year on YouTube. It was my aunt's uncle's
grandparents kind of has going on. He awkward, thanks, and
if they didn't subscribe, that was the only reason they
were there and like it was super cool to get
(02:59):
to do it. But I kept trying to make this
content and nobody was going to listen to just a
fourth grader, and so I would try to have guest
on the mayor, the city council members, the local doll catcher,
like nobody would give the fourth grader chance, like there
was no chance that they would come on. And I
DMed Charlie Kirk he was coming to speak at a
campus like in my hometown, and I asked for ten
(03:19):
minutes of his time, and the generous Charlie that you
and I knew, gave me thirty. And he was the
first episode I ever did. And so after that, leaving
that interview, my parents had to drive me. It was
again fourth grade, no Licenser. We were kind of like, wow,
like you really enjoyed that, didn't you? Like that was
like really cool. And I remember that night being like
I think I might want to do this, and I
remember my mom looking at me and being like, if
(03:40):
you want to do this, like if you want this
to be what you do, you know outside of school,
we will help buy you know, like the podcast microphones
and help pay for travel because the analogy she made
was that this is your tea ball. Your friends that
are out there doing you know, travel ball. They're going
to get the best pats and they're going to get
the hotel rooms at all these travel ball tournaments and conferences,
and they'll spend the week at the beach doing this tournament.
(04:01):
In their mind, that's what you do for your kids.
She's like, we'll do this for you. And they didn't
have to do that, Like, you know, the parents could
have easily been like, this is dangerous, this is risky politics,
like you're crazy. Ever since day one, even up till today,
my parents traveled every speech. They don't have to do that.
So very generous.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's really wonderful, Brilin. What did you ask Charlie Kirk
when you were a fourth grade interviewer?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, so we started going through some of the backlash
that he had gotten. This is one of the first
years he was ever speaking on campuses himself, and so,
I mean this is I was eleven, so it was
almost I mean, what nine or ten years ago was crazy.
And this is when Charlie was first coming out of
the scene. The day before our interview, he was on
(04:43):
Fox for one of the first times because he was
sitting at a restaurant and you might remember this, some
protesters came and threw water on him while he was
sitting outside of a restaurant, and it became this huge
news story that this kid that was speaking on campuses
got like protested just out in public at a restaurant.
And to the whole point of the interview, it's like, Hey,
I'm a young conservative. I have an audience of young conservatives.
(05:04):
I want people to know like, yes, it's scary to
speak out, but like you get attacked and you still
speak out. And so that's kind of the questions I
was asking. But you'll like this the very final thing
I asked, And I mean, his team has been rapping
us for minutes and he's still generous and please please
kid like the sandbox and keep playing and give give
us Charlie back. And he kept giving me time, and
(05:26):
so it' say, okay, final question. You know what would
you give a piece of advice like to me? Like
I all I want to do is help, Like I
just want to be somebody that can help inspire young people.
Can you give me anything, just one thing to take
away and it'll be kind of like my homework assignment
is the way I phrased it to him, and he goes,
remember this, the left will always out fundraise you. They
will always have the biggest owners, the biggest pockets, but
(05:47):
they'll never outwork you. You control how hard you work,
how early you wake up, how many states you visit
them one day. You have full control over that, and
they can't take that away from you. And Carol, you
know that they could not work Charlie. They had to
kill him every single day. This man went to as
many campuses, knew the risk of it, and still did it.
And so when I think back, like the moment I
was sitting in English class and found out about the assassination,
(06:08):
my first thought was he was right. They could never
outwork him. They never did.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, wow, what a story. Really, it really encapsulates who
he was. And the outwork message is one that conservatives
to really take to heart. We will never be outreaded,
you know that, will never out raise them, will never
have more media coverage, no matter how much new media
there is. But the outwork line is it really stays
with me. What is make America talk again going to
(06:33):
be about? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So it's it's a pretty cool, you know, kind of
time in my life. So the first time I wrote
a book, it was called one Generation Away.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Sorry, what number book is?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
This? Now's book?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And you're making me feel really bad about my career.
I had one book. I'm not writing any others yet.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yes, coming. So I did my first book right before
the twenty four election because I was in high school
and go into campuses with Charlie and trying to get
young people to vote, and none of them understood what
was important about the elections. I wrote that book One
Generation Away after that Reagan quote of like our freedoms
one generation away, this is why you should vote. So
(07:12):
now I'm kind of in a different phase of life.
I'm a college freshman and it's only been two years.
I wasn't planning to write another book to at least
I graduated college, but the assassination happened. And I've been
on this campus tour for the past semester, going to
these places, and what I keep hearing from people, and
I think you've seen this as well, just yourself. We
don't have a problem where we're talking too much. We're
(07:33):
actually not talking enough. Like we've perfected the art of
screaming We've perfected the art of rage posting, we've perfected
the art of even assassinations. But we can't talk. We
can't just stand in a line and debate each other
and have conversations. Every single campus I've been to since September,
every single one. We've done over ten campuses. Every time
we do a debate, there's some kind of security threat.
(07:54):
Either somebody rushes up, somebody tries to get in, somebody protests.
Something happens, and we can't just talk. Like I can't
just stand in front of the room and just let
people ask questions and it's okay if they disagree. I
want disagreement. Like the first thing I say is, if
you disagree, come to the front of the line, Like
I want to figure out where we can find common ground.
So the book, the whole point of it is to
encourage us to make America talk again. I got the
(08:14):
idea when I was working for President Trump. We were
doing this campaign. I was in charge of the youth
outreach for the AUDIENC. I was on that council and
they were coming up with themes. So for the Convention
of Milwaukee back in twenty four, they were like, make
America Wealthy Again was one night and Make America Strong
Again was one night. And when it got to my
turn of the zoom call, I said, oh, what if
we make America talk again? And they all kind of laughed.
They're like, what does that mean? And so we ended
(08:35):
up not using the idea, but now I think we
need to talk more than we did in twenty four,
like it's so important. Yeah, and so we were coming
up for a name for the book, I was like,
that's what it is. I get to debate, I get
to talk. Basically, it's a ten step how to guide
of how to talk to your neighbors. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Are you afraid with the security threats that you get?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'll tell you this. I never had to think about
it until the past few months. Like it was just
kind of I'm the kid that walks in and gets
to talk and then I just go back to class
like I can kind of like have two different worlds.
And in September, when the assassination happened, kind of everything
changed really quickly. Yes, definitely was afraid. There was a moment.
(09:13):
It was, you know, probably less than a week after
the funeral when I started getting some requests to go
to some of these chapters, and so we're sitting down
and we're looking at like which ones could be safe,
which ones couldn't be safe? And I remember how to
think about that. And my security team plopped down a
binder in front of me, like a thick binder, and
I was like, Oh, is this the homework I missed,
you know, like when we were you know, funeral and
(09:35):
all this stuff, Like is this what this is? And like, no,
this is the death threat you've gotten in the last
twelve hours. Because are the people that have It's raised
to the level that we've like flagged it, like they
either know your location, they know where you're about to be.
It's not just oh I wish I could do something
to him, it's they know something. So we've printed it
out to file away. And I kind of paused and
I stood up and I don't really tell people this often,
(09:57):
but I'll tell you just because you kind of understand
how like severe this is. I walked out of the
room and I was like, I really could step away,
Like right now, I could put the microphone down. Everybody
would understand, nobody would blame me. I'm breathing, my friend.
I could focus on school. I could have a million
different excuses to step away. And I don't know if
you remember the story of Isaiah and the Bible Isaiah six,
(10:19):
but there's this big rush of angels and the voice
of the Lord. But Isaiah walked into a temple one night,
and the Lord says to Isaiah, whom shall I send?
And for context, Isaiah wasn't some biblical scholar. He didn't
have a long beard or a white robe or like
any kind of experience. He was just like a young guy.
And if I was Isaiah, I would have looked around
(10:39):
the temple being like, surely God's not talking to me,
like somebody else behind me, And I got in the
way of God and some pharisee and God's calling him.
I just happened to stand in the middle of it.
But Isaiah didn't say, I'll go if you make it easy.
I'll go for you make it faief, I'll go if
you make it comfortable. As everybody knows, Isaiah said, here,
I am send me. And so I'm standing in the
hallway outside the room, and I'm pacing like I can't
(11:01):
disobey God, like these doors are opening. I didn't I
don't know why they're opening. But they're here, and I
can't be like, oh, sorry, God, I'm too scared. Close
them away, send somebody else, and you have to agree
that exactly. I was at ut Martin this past weekend
and we had some pretty serious security threats there as well.
I mean months since assassination, but still pretty serious this weekend,
to the point of our team walks in and they're like, okay,
(11:22):
you can fully cancel, like we're recommending right now that
it is probably best if you step away, you fly home,
you cancel right now. We'll tell the audience to go home.
And that verse came back up here. I am, send me,
and you just put your trust in the Lord. I
know when I walk into an event like that with
my dad traveled with me this weekend. My mom was
at home with my sister. My sister had prom. She's
still in high school. I called my mom walking on
stage and I was like, hey, I love you. I
(11:44):
don't know what's about to happen. I know there's audience,
but that's one of those things you know, going in there.
It doesn't mean that I'm stronger or tougher or not afraid.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It does mean a little bit that you are stronger
and tougher you are.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But like, it doesn't it doesn't mean that I'm numb
to it, Like I definitely still am scared walking up there,
but it means that I'm doing it with God, like
I'm not doing it by myself. I'm not just standing
up there just it's the Browlin Show. It's Hey, God
called this. If he wanted to close the door, he
could tomorrow, But as long as he keeps it open,
We're gonna keep walking through it.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Briylan, what a story. That is just amazing the way
you describe it. And I feel like you're walking with God.
I feel like God is directing you, and it's really
just so beautifully said. We're going to take a quick
break and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show.
What are you most proud of in your life?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'll tell you. I just came from the dining hall
here on campus, so I do all these interviews in
the corner of my dorm room. So like a fun
setup right now. I just came from the dining hall
and in the span of probably the thirty minutes I
was sitting at lunch with my friends, it started with
one classmates. I guess somebody a student on campus coming
up and heckling me and telling me to get the
(12:57):
f off of campus. I have no place here, How
dare I? I, you know, have the right to eat
lunch at the campus I paid tuition at. And then
it's yeah, it's like thirty minutes ago. And then a
few minutes later somebody came up and was like, hey,
I was terrified to speak out, and so I started
watching your videos and now I share scripture to my
story and now I share Charlie Kirk videos on my Twitter,
(13:19):
like I share stuff now publicly because of you, and
that's what I'm proud of stuff. So you have the
craziness that we talked about, the assassinations, the attempts of people,
the threats you have, the people that come up and
heck with you while you're having lunch with your college
buddies in the Dinad hall. But it's worth it because
on the other side, that girl came up and she
was like, and the genuine story from her was I
spoke on my campus a few months ago. I got
(13:40):
to do like a Q and E here, and she said,
I was too scared to come to your EVENTU was.
I didn't want people to know I was a christianer conservative.
I didn't want them to know that, you know, I
was wanting to be associated with y'all because I was
afraid I get kicked out of this, blackmailed from this,
lose these friends. But she says, now I'm boldly sharing stuff.
I'm boldly saying stuff in class. That's what I'm proud
of stuff. If I can look back and say one
more person was a little bit more bolder, that, that's
(14:02):
it's all worth it.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Incredible. I think you're genuinely born to do this, Like
I see that in you. But what would you be
doing had this not worked out, had this not been
the path that you were on. I mean, you're only nineteen.
You could still you know, have seven more careers. But
what would it be? What would plan be be? For Brylin?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So I always growing up, so I was going to
be a teacher, Like I kept playing teacher back in
our playroom back at home, and so I would like
set up little like mock classrooms and bring my parents
and teach them stuff. And I kind of get to
do that now, like I teach gen Z about politics,
not in like an education field more in like a
social media field. So possibly that I'm obsessed with golf.
It's my favorite thing. Yes, so I dream would be
(14:44):
to be a like PGA golfer, but it's like the
hardest possible thing. I'm in no way a good golfer.
I just I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think everybody says that about their golf game.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I'm not a good golfer, not at all, So like
maybe that that could be fun. But also this is
just a fun tibit that most people don't know about me.
I'm also obsessed with antiques. So anytime we're traveling, my
team knows if we have more than thirty minutes of
free time, whatever brandom city I'm about to speak in,
they've got to find an antique store and just give
me thirty minutes to walk through and look at some stuff.
And so all the stuff behind me, I've picked up
(15:14):
an antique stores just different places across the country. So
maybe I would like just retire and open up an
antique store. And I could still totally do that, like
I could just sit there. You can't look like t
other things before.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You do that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So maybe maybe I take a high addition of politics
tomorrow and work on the golf game. Spend some time
with that. Come back around twenty twenty eight, do politics
and maybe do antiquing.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I was gonna say, maybe when you retire, like twenty three,
you could play golf and do antiquing. My middle son
is super into antiquing.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Also sweet.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
He's really into history, so he loves going in tantique
stores and looking around.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And are there good antique stores in Florida?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So yes, well not so much. I don't know about
antique stores. I don't really go to the antique stores
that much. Some occasionally I'll go with him. But the
Facebook marketplace and learning, because it's somewhere that people retire
sadly as it is when they pass all their stuff
goes on Facebook marketplace. So my middle son just had
his bar mitzvun. The theme was time travel and I
(16:14):
got like antique suitcases and telephones for his decor. It
was really really cool. I have a typewriter. I got
a typewriter.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, with the whole wall here in my dorm right
behind this camera is filled with different antique microphones. So
going all the way from like as early as to
like the rush themball type microphones. It's just all right
here because this is what I love. I love you knowing,
and so it's kind of a cool. It ties in
my antique passion and my political passion. So it's fun.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I love that. I'm going to look around for microphones,
and I'll let you know.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Give us a five year out prediction can be about
anything at all.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, five years. I turned twenty next month. Five years, happy,
ripe old age of twenty five. I'd be about ready
to retire by then, I would say twenty five, I
would hope to be starting a family and kind of
settling down in that mindset of like getting married probably
you know, maybe having a first kid sometime in that range.
(17:13):
I would love to like have some more clarity in
that area kind of to get ready. I've kind of
in the past few months been figuring out, like, Okay,
what is a work life balance in this job? You know,
it's kind of crazy, like it's like a twenty four
to seven there's not really hours stops. Yeah, and so
I'm kind of using like my friends here on campus
like as a practice to like make time, like, okay,
(17:36):
one night a week, I'm making sure that we're going
to you know, like have dinner, or we're one one
day week we're gonna go play golf something. So I
make time for myself one day that would be say
a why for kids. I'm trying now to kind of plan, yeah, myself,
how to.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Carve out put a girlfriend, breaking some news on the
Carrol Marco.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Unfortunately, it's been hard to keep relationships when I travel
so much. Yeah, so it's I wish I could have
better news for you.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I thinks posted.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I definitely will, because it's not my lack of trying,
it's the I'm not here and so it's so hard.
Like we did four states last week, We'll do three
states next week. It's just hard to be gone so much.
And when I'm here, I'm really just here to take
some exams and then I got to help another flight.
So it's just it's not the easiest in the world
to keep a relationship. But my goal five years from
(18:24):
now will be to start kind of figuring that out,
starting a family, and hopefully be able to say that
we've maybe doubled the campuses have gone to that year,
because I want to start getting to go to more campuses.
That's what I love the most. People are terrified of it,
with good reason, as we've discussed, but I like getting
to sit face to face of somebody. I can make
Instagram videos all day and they reach more people than
(18:45):
the campus speeches do. But campuses, I can look somebody
in the eye and see the heart and see the confusion,
the frustration, and still think the policy that they're spouting
is insane, but understand where they're coming from. Like I
can see that they mean it. They don't understand what
they're saying, but they they mean it. And I can
kind of like have a more fruitful debate than I
could say on TikTok live for an Instagram video. So
(19:07):
I want to keep doing campus debate. So maybe we'll
say start a family and be doubling.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Family on the road.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
That would be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I like it, yeah, And I get it. That human
connection that you'll see when you're face to face with someone.
It just it is not replicable online. I've made a
lot of friends online, don't get me wrong, but meeting
the face to face, the seeing somebody in person is
really what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
It's huge, and I really think like that's why Trump
won the election. Kamala had a better start social media
game because just the Dems had more money in social media.
But if we look back, like political scientists will spend
decades on this. But here's the free answer on the
Carol Show, I really think that she lectured us through
a phone screen. And Trump went to campuses. Him and
(19:51):
I walked into Braddenny Stadium. He's throughout hot dogs and
student section. He went to Iowa's University. He asked to
tour a house.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I wanted to add.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It was just there. He didn't. He used TikTok, but
he didn't win because of TikTok. It was an adjacent
to it. He went to campuses. So that face to
face is what Charlie did so well. Nobody talks about.
I mean, Charlie's podcast is great. Nobody talks about that.
They talk about Charlie's debates like Kim on the campus
face to face. He didn't have to do that. He
would still be a live Carol if he's set in
the comfortable podcast. He chose to go to campuses. He
(20:20):
knew the risk and he knew the reward from it.
He knew that people could you know, come and understand
him more if he was there in person.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, you know, I would say I got a lot
wrong about Trump. I'll admit that. But the thing that
I most got wrong about him, and I knew, you know,
he was Donald Trump. He was in New York. I
grew up in New York. He was just in the
background of my life, you know, the whole way through.
But the thing that I didn't think he'd be able
to do in twenty sixteen, I was like, he's kind
of a germ of phobe. He doesn't like shaking hands.
(20:47):
I'm like, he's not going to like being among people.
Could not be more wrong about that. He gets so
much of his strength from being in these crowds. It's
amazing to watch.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's huge. The last time I was with him in person,
he was about to walk out and speak at the
University of Alabama commencement and he was giving the graduation
address there, and so we're backstage and they I got
to wait and talk to him out before he went out,
and I'm catching him up. I was supposed to talk
about youth numbers for the midterms. So I come in.
I know I have like three minutes before they pull
(21:19):
them go on stage and I'm trying to get these
stats in his head, and I'm like, if we go
to this state and do this and do this, and
he's like, yeah, yeah, how many people are out there?
And I was like, I think fifteen thousands. I think
I think that's the capacity. And he's like, how many
hands you think I can shake? And I was like,
I'm not, I'm not sure. Sure that's not I was like,
but if we could Georgia and we reached to this
and you post this video like I'm trying to go
through stats and these gaya, do you think I could
(21:40):
shake all the graduates hands and they get pictures with
all of them, And I was like, sure, you're the president,
like the plane whatever, Like he didn't have to do that.
He could have walked in, he could give him a speech,
he could have flown home golf the next day. He
stood shook all the hands because that's.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
He loves it. He really truly loves it, and that's
what makes it special for him. I mean, that's what
makes all the difference. We're going to take a quick
break and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. Breilyn,
you are super cool. I've loved this conversation. I've love
getting to know you a little bit. Better leave us
here with your best tip for my listeners on how
(22:19):
they can improve their lives.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Ooh, that's a good one. Okay. I would say make
sure your relationship with God is number one. I do
a lot of things every day. I've got a pretty
good routine, whether I'm here at college and a hotel,
traveling whatever. I read a bunch of articles, I host
a certain amount of videos aday. The one routine that
keeps me grounded to stay a normal saying human being
(22:42):
is every single day. If I'm at a hotel bed,
if I'm at my dorm bed, if I'm back home
wherever I am, I start the day in quiet time
and prayer. So before I check the news, see what
I missed when I was sleeping. Before I read the articles,
I start reading through scripture and make that time. Three
days a week. I hop on FaceTime calls with different
groups of friends. So summer back call in my hometown
like high school buddies, some are college friends, and we
(23:03):
can hop on whether I'm speaking somewhere or not, I
can like still be face to face with them. Centering
your life around people that you can grow in relationship
with God with helps tremendously. So let's say tomorrow I
might talk to my staff about, oh, I'm struggling with
getting this speech ready or getting this video out. They
can handle that. But who am I going to go
to if I'm struggling with this thing with God or
(23:24):
I'm struggling with this and I need to go, have
just some guys to be around and like pray with.
That's the most important thing. So I can't emphasize enough
centering yourself with those good Christian men, making the time
in your life to just genuinely sit and read scripture.
You can come up with a bunch of substitutes for it.
You can do a bunch of self help books, you
can meditate, you can do yoga, whatever. Start the day
(23:44):
with scripture. Though I cannot think of something more important.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I love it. He is Brian Hollyhand. Check out his
upcoming book Make America Talk Again. Thank you so much
Brylin for coming out girl.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I appreciate you.
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