In this episode of The Truth with Lisa Boothe, Senator Ron Johnson joins Lisa to break down the real story behind Washington’s latest government shutdown. Johnson reveals how Democrats allegedly prolonged the crisis to secure temporary Obamacare subsidies that benefit higher-income Americans—while leaving working families behind. He exposes the hidden costs of Obamacare, from skyrocketing premiums to harm done to Medicaid recipients, and warns how it all feeds into the left’s push for a single-payer system. Lisa and Senator Johnson also dig into Senate procedures, the filibuster debate, and how political power plays in Washington are threatening economic stability and the American middle class. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. So,
what the heck was the point of the government shutdown?
Senate Majority leader soon offered Democrats basically the same deal
they just accepted or release some of the Democrats accepted.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Back in October.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So what was the point of screwing over all of
these working families, from our military to our air traffic controllers,
of withholding their paychecks?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What was the point?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Democrats say it's over these beefed up Obamacare subsidies, but
they're always supposed.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
To be temporary.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And by the way, those specific subsidies are going to
wealthy people, so it's not helping the working class.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're gonna ask Senator Ron Johnson about that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Also, President Trump has called for ending the fillbuster. Should
Republicans do it? Does Senator Ron Johnson support that? And
what would that mean for the Senate moving forward? All
of that and more with Senator Ron Johnson.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So, Senator Johnson.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Back in October, Senate Jordi Leader Thoon offered a vote
on subsidies on these beefed up Obamacare substies.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
In exchange for reopening the government. What was the point
of all of this.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I think that was just to gain Democrats consent to,
you know, do whatever we need to do. Again, in
order for the Senate to operate at all requires consent
after consent after consent for just.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The menials little thing.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I mean, if if the other if the minority party
wanted to grind the scent to the Hall, they could
do so because you literally need otherwise you have to
motion and votes on you know, walking down to the
well basically, but you know, generally is to stop their obstruction.
But again, from my standpoint, I don't think that was
(01:46):
that difficult to vote. I mean, their demands were so outlandish,
and I truthfully think that Democrats have stepped in it
by raising the issue of Obamacare. They've given us a
few months now to just highlight what a miserable it is.
I held a hearing last week assessing the damage of Obamacare,
and we had some great witnesses, people like Brian Blaze
(02:07):
and Karen Bragden and Joel White, and then they just
laid out, I mean, the consolidation in the industry which late,
which caused the anti competitive skyrocketing across the premiums you
know the damage done to Medicaid, traditional Medicaid recipients, recipients,
you know, disabled children being crowded out in favor of adults,
(02:28):
the Medicaid expansion population. Then Brian Blaze really covered the
premium increases.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
But at the very end of the.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Hearing, after we've laid all this damage, all this destruction
out center, Bloomenthal, my ranking member goes, but where are
the millions of people harmed by Obamacare? I don't know
anybody harmed by Obamacare. At that point I could point
to his witness. He brought in a mom from Madison, Wisconsin.
She is a victim of Obamacare. She lost her employer
coverage in twenty sixteen, had to buy They bought a
(02:57):
silver Planet one thousand thousand months for that over a
couple of years. So they switched to a bronze plan
with a fourteen thousand dollars deductible. Now, at least back
when I was buying healthcare, that was a catastrophic plan,
and those things were dirt cheap anyway, So they had
medical expanses. Her and her husband had to take out
an eighteen thousand dollars home equity line of credit to
(03:19):
pay for the medical bills that's not insurance. So the
Democrat's own witness was a victim of Obamacare. But our
problem is he's sitting there in the hearing with his
own witness unable to recognize the damage done to her
and her family because of Obamacare. So Democrats in a
total state denial. But this has given us, like you say,
(03:40):
a couple month opportunity to point out the American public
exactly how destructive Obamacare has been. Ye.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I guess my point is this could have ended back
in October, because if you look at inevitably were Democrats
ended up, it was with a guaranteed vote on the
enhanced Obamacare subsidies. But soon had offered that back in October.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
But again they wanted to highlight the fact that these
premam is going to skyrocket because of the faulty design
of Obamacare, because of their enhanced substance that they decided
to have expired, which is a good thing they're expiring.
And again the reason they fossil heart is they wanted
to continue to throw one hundreds of bins of dollars
(04:20):
at the problem to mask to hide the failure of Obamacare,
and that they were desperate to do that. I mean
so desperate that they want through this comic coze shutdown
that used government workers in the American public as pawns
in these in the sick political gainsmanship.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
How much of it do you think was to drive
turnout in last week's elections, because you know, if you
look at every poll, you look at this article from
Axios back in July, like their base is literally out
for blood, is what some of these House Democrats told Axios.
You know how much of it was to drive turnout
in the election, to get their base fired up and motivated.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I think Trump derangement syndrome is very strong among the
left and the Democrat Party. I don't think they needed
this to drive that kind of turnout. Again, I really
think this was all about masking the miserable favor that
Obamacare is trying to bludgeon us into throwing a few
hundred billion dollars at it to continue to hide that fact.
(05:17):
I really think that was the main point. And again
I thought they think they can score political points. Health
Care has always been a very potent issue for them
because the American public nobody thinks they should pay for
health care anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's just a sad fact.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You know, you get your insurance, your employer, you may
have to contribute something, but nobody thinks they should actually
have to pay for medical services.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Somebody else pays for it.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Either you pay insurance premiums then the insurance carrier covers it,
or you pay your taxes and you're in Medicare, you're Medicaid.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So it's a very sad fact that we have.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
As a result, taken all the disciplines, all the benefits
of free market competition out of a healthcare market.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
We're that satisfy as the result.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But I think that's really the main issue there is
Democrats they do well on healthcare because they're always promising
to pay for people's health care, and that, unfortunately in America,
is popular.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But it's interesting with these premiums specifically because well, one,
you know, they were covid era, so they were always
supposed to be temporary.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But secondly, they also are for people.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Making over four hundred percent of the poverty line, so
you know, we're not talking about you know, subsidies for
impoverished people here, So like, how is that fighting for
affordability or for the working class.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Because Obamacare was never about bringing health insurance rates down.
I mean even Democrats had realized, I mean people like
the Gruber, that one guy that does talked about how
stupid American people were and stuff and me. They weren't
dumb enough to realize that this Rube Goldberg architecture here
was going to actually lower premium. So when President Obama
(06:52):
was saying We're going to lower healthcare costs like twenty
five hundred dollars per family, that was as big a
lie as if you like.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Your healthcare plan, if you like your doctor, you can
keep it. They never believe that.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
So this has always been about a single payer system,
and the enhanced subsy that was a great way to transition.
You'll take the next step toward single payer system because
now you're including people that were excluded from Obamacare substis,
you're bringing more people onto a single payer system. Right,
you have the Medicaid Expansion group. You know, it's about
twenty million Americans. You're young, a lot of them young,
(07:25):
you know, working age, childless, able bodied adults that don't
work because they get the healthcare.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Paid for them.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Now, So this is it's always been about moving to
a single payer system, and this is enhanced SUBSCY was
just that next step toward that system, and we told
we made a backstep.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I actually had a debate Jonathan Gruber on Obamacare on
TV one time. My goal was just to get him
really mad at first, and then he sort of like
combusted after that. So is it too late then to
put the genie back in the bottle, Because, as you mentioned,
like the whole point of Obamacare and then also the
extension of these enhanced subsidies is to move us to
single pair system and that's something obviously Republicans have been
warning about for quite some time. Now, is it too
(08:06):
late to go back? I mean, is the damage done? Like,
once you kind of create a government program, it's you know,
seems to be impossible to claw it back.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Well, I understand you've only got they say, twenty four
million people in these exchanges. That's debatable because you probably
have four or five six million that are totally phantom.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know, got twenty million people and make it expansion.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We certainly tried to pap that by not allowing these
adults get a one to nine match. So, I mean,
there are things we can certainly do, But the reason
I never really liked the slogan repeal and replace is.
I much prefer the descriptive it's called slogan. But we
pair the damage done bobombacare and transition.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
To a system that works. The reason I like that is, Okay,
well what damage. Well, that's our opportunity now over the
last couple of months.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We need to point out the damage done Bobombacare and
if we can do an effective job at that. And
again that's what the Democrats trying to hide with these subseeds.
Show the premiums. I've got one chart, state by state
increase in premiums.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
For I think it's a forty year old individual.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
One hundred and sixty nine percent since the start of Obamacare.
Inflation's up thirty nine cents. That's four point three times
the rate inflation. Again, if we can describe that damage,
then you know, God bless President Trump.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Working with the Rick.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Scott this is kind of his concept, well, it's a
lot of people's concept.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
He's really pushing this less.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Whatever we spend on Obamacare, less, transfer that to the
American people and let them buy the healthcare plans that
they choose. Kind of go back to pre Obamacare. Now
you've got to unravel a lot of Obamcare's faulty architecture.
But I think people are ready because they're not happy
with the fact that if they just want a short
term plan, if they want to have their employer join association.
(09:54):
You know, employer sponsored insurance has only gone up seventy
four percent, not quite double the rating, and part of
that cost increases driven by the faulty architecture of Obamacare.
So I know I'm throwing a lot of facts and
details out here, but yes, I think if we can
get the American people's attention, let them know what a
disaster Obamacare has been, give them the wherewithal and the
(10:18):
freedom to buy plans that fit their needs. I mean,
if you're a young person, you don't need first dollar cover,
you don't need a gold plated plan.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You probably need a castrophic care plan because you're generally healthy. Right.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
So, no, we have to be able to do this
because continue down this this road is just going to
completely ruin our healthcare system.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, and that's always the response is when you tack Obamacare,
then it's well, then what's the Republican plan?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You know we have We have so many ideas out there.
But yeah, I'm trying to simplify things. Let's keep basic principles.
You know, let's let's get people. Let's not tell them
what insurance is going to be available to them. Let
the marketplace do it. You know, we need to foster
greater free market competition but also more consumerism. So those
(11:04):
are just basic principles. Yes, we're going to cover people
with presisting conditions. We could have done that easily with
high risk pools. Make some modifications, spread that cost over everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's one of the reasons premiums and the individual.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Market of skyrocket is we took those high risk pools,
destroyed them, and we forced a small percentage of the
American public twelve million people at the time, to pick
up the entire cost of covering everybody else with.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Pre existing conditions.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Okay, I mean it's a disaster, and that's one of
the main reasons those previmoums of skyrockets so much. So
go to a system that works high risk pools, respread
that risk over everybody paying for insurance.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Quick break.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
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Speaker 2 (11:49):
There was some debate.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Before you know more Democrats came on board with reopening
the government about eliminating the fillbuster.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's something that President Trump called.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
For as well, you know, should we do that and
then what does the Senate look like after that moving forward?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Well, first of all, it's a real shame that Democrats
have no respect for that filibuster. So what President Trump
is and I actually agree with him, reluctantly agree. If
the Democrats ever get power, and that's the first thing
we have to try and prevent, they will new this filibuster.
They are only two they've purged those individuals to prevent
that last time, so next time they have the majority,
(12:26):
they'll nuke it. So what President Trump is saying, we
better do it before them. And let's face it, they
have shown us what they're going to do. They completely
obstructed President Trump being able to staff his administration.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So there's a lot of reluctance. We didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Change the rules with fifty one votes on confirming nominations,
but in the end we had to because Democrats were
so obnoxious and so obstructive. Right now, they just shut
down the government for forty some days right now, doing
real harm what's so bizarre about this lease? So they're
the party big government. In fact, they took their own
(13:02):
family member hostage, and we're the ones trying to get
their own family member out of you know, out of
the kidnapped state.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So it's very obvious moving.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Forward, they won't do anything to let President Trump and
Republicans pass good laws for the benefit of the American public.
They were happy, they knew this was harmful to our economy.
This was not good for our economy. Take a what
goal was happening to to, you know, air travel that
harmed our economy, that cost US billions of dollars in
economic activity. That's exactly their point. It wasn't about turnout it,
(13:37):
it wasn't about Obamacare. But it's primarily about let's make
sure that the economy tanks that President Trump has no success.
So President Trump's just recognized that reality. What are we
going to be able to pass in the remainder of
his term in twenty twenty, We'll be able to pass nothing,
and we better be able to pass something or else
(13:57):
we're gonna get blamed if the economy is not doing
well because we haven't done permitting reform, because we haven't
freed up, Marcus. Because we haven't done these things that
you need to do to have a prosperous economy. It'll
be Trump and Republics to get blame. That's exactly what
the Democrats are looking for. That's that's how sinister they
truly are. You know they could. I mean, look at
how they treated government employee unions. Man, I had the
(14:19):
unions backum My shutdown Fairness Act.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
They were putting pressure on Democrats. Democrats just gave in
the middle finger. They don't.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
They only care about power, about their own political power.
That's all democrats elected, democrats want is power.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It's sick.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That's sick.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Senator Ron Johnson, we appreciate you making the time stir
looking forward to having.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You back on soon.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
That was Senator Ron Johnson. Appreciate him for making the
time for the show. Appreciate you guys at home for
listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout
the week. Also want to think John Cassio, my producer,
for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Until next time,
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. So,
what the heck was the point of the government shutdown?
Senate Majority leader soon offered Democrats basically the same deal
they just accepted or release some of the Democrats accepted.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Back in October.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
So what was the point of screwing over all of
these working families, from our military to our air traffic controllers,
of withholding their paychecks?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What was the point?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Democrats say it's over these beefed up Obamacare subsidies, but
they're always supposed.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
To be temporary.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And by the way, those specific subsidies are going to
wealthy people, so it's not helping the working class.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're gonna ask Senator Ron Johnson about that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Also, President Trump has called for ending the fillbuster. Should
Republicans do it? Does Senator Ron Johnson support that? And
what would that mean for the Senate moving forward? All
of that and more with Senator Ron Johnson.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So, Senator Johnson.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Back in October, Senate Jordi Leader Thoon offered a vote
on subsidies on these beefed up Obamacare substies.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
In exchange for reopening the government. What was the point
of all of this.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I think that was just to gain Democrats consent to,
you know, do whatever we need to do. Again, in
order for the Senate to operate at all requires consent
after consent after consent for just.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
The menials little thing.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I mean, if if the other if the minority party
wanted to grind the scent to the Hall, they could
do so because you literally need otherwise you have to
motion and votes on you know, walking down to the
well basically, but you know, generally is to stop their obstruction.
But again, from my standpoint, I don't think that was
(01:46):
that difficult to vote. I mean, their demands were so outlandish,
and I truthfully think that Democrats have stepped in it
by raising the issue of Obamacare. They've given us a
few months now to just highlight what a miserable it is.
I held a hearing last week assessing the damage of Obamacare,
and we had some great witnesses, people like Brian Blaze
(02:07):
and Karen Bragden and Joel White, and then they just
laid out, I mean, the consolidation in the industry which late,
which caused the anti competitive skyrocketing across the premiums you
know the damage done to Medicaid, traditional Medicaid recipients, recipients,
you know, disabled children being crowded out in favor of adults,
(02:28):
the Medicaid expansion population. Then Brian Blaze really covered the
premium increases.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
But at the very end of the.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Hearing, after we've laid all this damage, all this destruction
out center, Bloomenthal, my ranking member goes, but where are
the millions of people harmed by Obamacare? I don't know
anybody harmed by Obamacare. At that point I could point
to his witness. He brought in a mom from Madison, Wisconsin.
She is a victim of Obamacare. She lost her employer
coverage in twenty sixteen, had to buy They bought a
(02:57):
silver Planet one thousand thousand months for that over a
couple of years. So they switched to a bronze plan
with a fourteen thousand dollars deductible. Now, at least back
when I was buying healthcare, that was a catastrophic plan,
and those things were dirt cheap anyway, So they had
medical expanses. Her and her husband had to take out
an eighteen thousand dollars home equity line of credit to
(03:19):
pay for the medical bills that's not insurance. So the
Democrat's own witness was a victim of Obamacare. But our
problem is he's sitting there in the hearing with his
own witness unable to recognize the damage done to her
and her family because of Obamacare. So Democrats in a
total state denial. But this has given us, like you say,
(03:40):
a couple month opportunity to point out the American public
exactly how destructive Obamacare has been. Ye.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I guess my point is this could have ended back
in October, because if you look at inevitably were Democrats
ended up, it was with a guaranteed vote on the
enhanced Obamacare subsidies. But soon had offered that back in October.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
But again they wanted to highlight the fact that these
premam is going to skyrocket because of the faulty design
of Obamacare, because of their enhanced substance that they decided
to have expired, which is a good thing they're expiring.
And again the reason they fossil heart is they wanted
to continue to throw one hundreds of bins of dollars
(04:20):
at the problem to mask to hide the failure of Obamacare,
and that they were desperate to do that. I mean
so desperate that they want through this comic coze shutdown
that used government workers in the American public as pawns
in these in the sick political gainsmanship.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
How much of it do you think was to drive
turnout in last week's elections, because you know, if you
look at every poll, you look at this article from
Axios back in July, like their base is literally out
for blood, is what some of these House Democrats told Axios.
You know how much of it was to drive turnout
in the election, to get their base fired up and motivated.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I think Trump derangement syndrome is very strong among the
left and the Democrat Party. I don't think they needed
this to drive that kind of turnout. Again, I really
think this was all about masking the miserable favor that
Obamacare is trying to bludgeon us into throwing a few
hundred billion dollars at it to continue to hide that fact.
(05:17):
I really think that was the main point. And again
I thought they think they can score political points. Health
Care has always been a very potent issue for them
because the American public nobody thinks they should pay for
health care anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's just a sad fact.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You know, you get your insurance, your employer, you may
have to contribute something, but nobody thinks they should actually
have to pay for medical services.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Somebody else pays for it.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Either you pay insurance premiums then the insurance carrier covers it,
or you pay your taxes and you're in Medicare, you're Medicaid.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
So it's a very sad fact that we have.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
As a result, taken all the disciplines, all the benefits
of free market competition out of a healthcare market.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
We're that satisfy as the result.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
But I think that's really the main issue there is
Democrats they do well on healthcare because they're always promising
to pay for people's health care, and that, unfortunately in America,
is popular.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But it's interesting with these premiums specifically because well, one,
you know, they were covid era, so they were always
supposed to be temporary.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But secondly, they also are for people.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Making over four hundred percent of the poverty line, so
you know, we're not talking about you know, subsidies for
impoverished people here, So like, how is that fighting for
affordability or for the working class.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Because Obamacare was never about bringing health insurance rates down.
I mean even Democrats had realized, I mean people like
the Gruber, that one guy that does talked about how
stupid American people were and stuff and me. They weren't
dumb enough to realize that this Rube Goldberg architecture here
was going to actually lower premium. So when President Obama
(06:52):
was saying We're going to lower healthcare costs like twenty
five hundred dollars per family, that was as big a
lie as if you like.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Your healthcare plan, if you like your doctor, you can
keep it. They never believe that.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
So this has always been about a single payer system,
and the enhanced subsy that was a great way to transition.
You'll take the next step toward single payer system because
now you're including people that were excluded from Obamacare substis,
you're bringing more people onto a single payer system. Right,
you have the Medicaid Expansion group. You know, it's about
twenty million Americans. You're young, a lot of them young,
(07:25):
you know, working age, childless, able bodied adults that don't
work because they get the healthcare.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Paid for them.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Now, So this is it's always been about moving to
a single payer system, and this is enhanced SUBSCY was
just that next step toward that system, and we told
we made a backstep.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I actually had a debate Jonathan Gruber on Obamacare on
TV one time. My goal was just to get him
really mad at first, and then he sort of like
combusted after that. So is it too late then to
put the genie back in the bottle, Because, as you mentioned,
like the whole point of Obamacare and then also the
extension of these enhanced subsidies is to move us to
single pair system and that's something obviously Republicans have been
warning about for quite some time. Now, is it too
(08:06):
late to go back? I mean, is the damage done? Like,
once you kind of create a government program, it's you know,
seems to be impossible to claw it back.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Well, I understand you've only got they say, twenty four
million people in these exchanges. That's debatable because you probably
have four or five six million that are totally phantom.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know, got twenty million people and make it expansion.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
We certainly tried to pap that by not allowing these
adults get a one to nine match. So, I mean,
there are things we can certainly do, But the reason
I never really liked the slogan repeal and replace is.
I much prefer the descriptive it's called slogan. But we
pair the damage done bobombacare and transition.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
To a system that works. The reason I like that is, Okay,
well what damage. Well, that's our opportunity now over the
last couple of months.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We need to point out the damage done Bobombacare and
if we can do an effective job at that. And
again that's what the Democrats trying to hide with these subseeds.
Show the premiums. I've got one chart, state by state
increase in premiums.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
For I think it's a forty year old individual.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
One hundred and sixty nine percent since the start of Obamacare.
Inflation's up thirty nine cents. That's four point three times
the rate inflation. Again, if we can describe that damage,
then you know, God bless President Trump.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Working with the Rick.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Scott this is kind of his concept, well, it's a
lot of people's concept.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
He's really pushing this less.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Whatever we spend on Obamacare, less, transfer that to the
American people and let them buy the healthcare plans that
they choose. Kind of go back to pre Obamacare. Now
you've got to unravel a lot of Obamcare's faulty architecture.
But I think people are ready because they're not happy
with the fact that if they just want a short
term plan, if they want to have their employer join association.
(09:54):
You know, employer sponsored insurance has only gone up seventy
four percent, not quite double the rating, and part of
that cost increases driven by the faulty architecture of Obamacare.
So I know I'm throwing a lot of facts and
details out here, but yes, I think if we can
get the American people's attention, let them know what a
disaster Obamacare has been, give them the wherewithal and the
(10:18):
freedom to buy plans that fit their needs. I mean,
if you're a young person, you don't need first dollar cover,
you don't need a gold plated plan.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You probably need a castrophic care plan because you're generally healthy. Right.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
So, no, we have to be able to do this
because continue down this this road is just going to
completely ruin our healthcare system.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, and that's always the response is when you tack Obamacare,
then it's well, then what's the Republican plan?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You know we have We have so many ideas out there.
But yeah, I'm trying to simplify things. Let's keep basic principles.
You know, let's let's get people. Let's not tell them
what insurance is going to be available to them. Let
the marketplace do it. You know, we need to foster
greater free market competition but also more consumerism. So those
(11:04):
are just basic principles. Yes, we're going to cover people
with presisting conditions. We could have done that easily with
high risk pools. Make some modifications, spread that cost over everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's one of the reasons premiums and the individual.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Market of skyrocket is we took those high risk pools,
destroyed them, and we forced a small percentage of the
American public twelve million people at the time, to pick
up the entire cost of covering everybody else with.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Pre existing conditions.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Okay, I mean it's a disaster, and that's one of
the main reasons those previmoums of skyrockets so much. So
go to a system that works high risk pools, respread
that risk over everybody paying for insurance.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Quick break.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
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Speaker 2 (11:49):
There was some debate.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Before you know more Democrats came on board with reopening
the government about eliminating the fillbuster.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It's something that President Trump called.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
For as well, you know, should we do that and
then what does the Senate look like after that moving forward?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Well, first of all, it's a real shame that Democrats
have no respect for that filibuster. So what President Trump
is and I actually agree with him, reluctantly agree. If
the Democrats ever get power, and that's the first thing
we have to try and prevent, they will new this filibuster.
They are only two they've purged those individuals to prevent
that last time, so next time they have the majority,
(12:26):
they'll nuke it. So what President Trump is saying, we
better do it before them. And let's face it, they
have shown us what they're going to do. They completely
obstructed President Trump being able to staff his administration.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So there's a lot of reluctance. We didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Change the rules with fifty one votes on confirming nominations,
but in the end we had to because Democrats were
so obnoxious and so obstructive. Right now, they just shut
down the government for forty some days right now, doing
real harm what's so bizarre about this lease? So they're
the party big government. In fact, they took their own
(13:02):
family member hostage, and we're the ones trying to get
their own family member out of you know, out of
the kidnapped state.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So it's very obvious moving.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Forward, they won't do anything to let President Trump and
Republicans pass good laws for the benefit of the American public.
They were happy, they knew this was harmful to our economy.
This was not good for our economy. Take a what
goal was happening to to, you know, air travel that
harmed our economy, that cost US billions of dollars in
economic activity. That's exactly their point. It wasn't about turnout it,
(13:37):
it wasn't about Obamacare. But it's primarily about let's make
sure that the economy tanks that President Trump has no success.
So President Trump's just recognized that reality. What are we
going to be able to pass in the remainder of
his term in twenty twenty, We'll be able to pass nothing,
and we better be able to pass something or else
(13:57):
we're gonna get blamed if the economy is not doing
well because we haven't done permitting reform, because we haven't
freed up, Marcus. Because we haven't done these things that
you need to do to have a prosperous economy. It'll
be Trump and Republics to get blame. That's exactly what
the Democrats are looking for. That's that's how sinister they
truly are. You know they could. I mean, look at
how they treated government employee unions. Man, I had the
(14:19):
unions backum My shutdown Fairness Act.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
They were putting pressure on Democrats. Democrats just gave in
the middle finger. They don't.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
They only care about power, about their own political power.
That's all democrats elected, democrats want is power.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It's sick.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That's sick.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Senator Ron Johnson, we appreciate you making the time stir
looking forward to having.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You back on soon.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
That was Senator Ron Johnson. Appreciate him for making the
time for the show. Appreciate you guys at home for
listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout
the week. Also want to think John Cassio, my producer,
for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
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