September 7, 2026 • 33 mins
As America approaches the 25th anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks, Tudor Dixon sits down with 9/11 widower Giovanni Galante for a deeply personal conversation about loss, remembrance, patriotism, and his fight over the upcoming Ground Zero commemoration.
Galante lost his 29-year-old wife, Grace, who worked at the World Trade Center, on September 11, 2001. He recounts rushing toward the Twin Towers that morning in hopes of finding her, witnessing the chaos in Lower Manhattan, and eventually confronting the devastating reality that she wasn't coming home.
Twenty-five years later, Galante says America cannot allow the victims of 9/11—or the lessons of that day—to be forgotten. He discusses his effort to keep New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani from participating in the anniversary ceremony at Ground Zero, arguing that the solemn commemoration should remain focused on the victims, survivors, and families who continue to carry the scars of September 11.
Tudor and Galante also discuss how 9/11 is taught to younger generations, the importance of preserving firsthand stories from that day, the political battles surrounding patriotism and national security, and why Galante believes Americans must once again take pride in their country.
Plus, Galante explains how listeners can support his petition and his effort to ensure the 25th anniversary remains centered on honoring those who were lost.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are coming up upon the 25-year anniversary of 9-11,
which just totally blows my mind. I can clear as
day remember hearing... I was in Chicago being told, you
can't go into your building, you got to go home,
watching the coverage all day, feeling like we'd never felt before. Honestly,
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we'd never felt anything like this in this country before.
But my guest today... felt it a little bit differently
than most of us. And he feels that alongside 3,000
other families who also lost someone that day. I have
Giovanni Galante with me today, and he is a 9-11 widower.
And he just launched a petition asking the organizers of
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this 25-year anniversary ceremony at Ground Zero to reconsider Mayor
Zoran Mamdani's role in the commemoration. Giovanni, Thank you for
talking about this. Thank you for coming on. I've read
some of the stories that you've written about this. And
the way you say it is just so powerful. The
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fact that you lost your wife, the fact that your
niece will never know her, but she carries her name.
She only knows her from the stories that she's been told.
Those things hit me so hard.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
They do. Thank you for having me on the show.
It's an honor. It's a hard thing to get used to,
especially in the beginning when it first happened. I was
actually at the scene because at the time I worked
for Con Edison and one of my bosses had reached
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out to me knowing my wife worked at the World
Trade Center and said, you know, I don't know what's
going on, but plane hit the building and we're the
first ones notified pretty much because of transformers that are
in the building. you know, everything that our equipment is
stored for the lighting and all of that. So I
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kind of got on the train and my train was
the last stop at Fulton that day. I got out,
you know, obviously smoke everywhere, not knowing the details of
how big the plane was in the beginning because, you know,
we didn't hear it. We just, you know, it was
a plane, not knowing size. And.
(02:19):
Kind of trying to get over there because my wife
was there for 93 and she didn't get home till
past one in the morning that day in February. I
think it was the 26th back then. And we were
kind of worried, me and her family. And I stood there.
I kept trying to get into the circle of getting
close to the building, looking for her, obviously hoping she
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was downstairs already, but couldn't find her. So as I
go to... the building from Liberty Street, I was stopped
by two officers and, you know, I said, hey, I
understand something's going on, but I'm trying to find my wife.
She works at the World Trade Center and I'd like
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to try to get through. She's like, you can't go.
And I'm like, why not? Well, we just got word
that another plane is coming. And that's when my face
kind of like It still gives me chills thinking about
that word that, you know, another plane is coming. Now
you're thinking you're under attack. You kind of feel like,
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you know, I've never been to war. I've never experienced
war where, you know, where America, we've never felt that
kind of fear. So obviously the other plane, as soon
as she said that within maybe half a second, you
hear the big roaring plane right through the other building.
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Now you're running crazy and it's insane. I'm still trying
to get through somewhere to get to that side of
the West Side Highway and it just was a little
bit difficult because everybody's running the other way and within
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time and circling and going places is when you start
hearing the rumbling of the building collapsing and then everybody
is now with the smoke behind them coming towards me. And,
you know, I turn and run with everyone, obviously. You know,
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and I go towards the ferry because we lived in
Staten Island at the time. So I walked all the
way to Brooklyn Bridge and all the way home pretty much.
You know, by the time I got to the Brooklyn Bridge,
I was still looking to see, you know, what was
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going on. And then second building goes down by that time.
And now you're like, you know, she's gone. It's like,
how do you live that? How do you come out
of that? And it was kind of a hard thing
to understand going home with just nothing to say, nothing
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to see, nothing to do. It was difficult. I had
this guy that happened to be on the side and
just said to me, he goes, before the second building
went down, he was talking to me. You know, he said,
you know, what's going on? You know, somebody opened it.
I said, yeah, my wife works in the World Trade Center.
She's like, can I? I'm hoping she's, you know, out
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of the building. And he's like, well, you know, last
night we had dog sniffers in the building and, you know,
looking for bombs. And I'm like, looking for bombs. And
they let people go in the building the next day
just like that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, so kind of like- Why did they have
that happening?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
They must've had some kind of threat. They, you know,
obviously all these conspiracy theories that say certain things, I
know by fact that this guy said it to me.
So I don't know what the others of, you know,
if they're true or not, but the facts are this
guy told me this and he didn't know me from
a hole in the wall. And I'm assuming he was
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somebody that was in the field either a cop or
undercover or whatever, and FBI, CIA, who knows what he was,
but he knew as much as that. So I don't
know how many other people knew that. So for me,
it was kind of heartbreaking to hear that it happened
and they knew the day before that something was going on.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And they let people go into that building.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And they let people go in the building. And to me,
to let another plane get close to our building there,
It's kind of like, why wouldn't you, I understand for
the life of the people on the plane, but they
were going to die anyway. Shoot it down. You risked
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thousands of people instead of maybe 100, 200, which died anyway.
They were part of it. It's kind of a hard
thing to swallow your government not being able to force
on that right away. but it happened anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I mean, you said two things that kind of stunned me.
You said that when you walked up, they said, we
hear there's another plane coming because that was a shock
to all of us. And I, like I said, I
remember sitting day after day, seeing the coverage of the
news people going, oh my gosh, another plane just hit.
You know, it was this, it was stunning to everyone else.
(07:33):
But someone on the ground said to you, we hear
there's another plane coming. Like they already knew. And I,
When the guy said to you that they had just
had dogs in there sniffing for bombs the night before,
was he saying that like a, hey, don't worry, it's
not going to blow up?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
No, he said it in a way of he was
shocked that it got this far. If we did our job,
the way it seemed to me is he felt like
they did their job in trying to protect the buildings
and the people. but didn't make it to really help
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because obviously not knowing the plan of a plane coming
through a building and the bomb threat was two different things.
So if you get thrown off by that and then
they do something like this, it's kind of like, you know,
they're trying to throw them off. Obviously they did. They
won that patent in words, in short words.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So what you're thinking is there was intelligence saying that
the buildings were potentially going to be under attack on
September 11th, and it's not... For me.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
There had to be. I feel even the position of
where the president was at the day he was in
a school in Florida, nowhere near the White House, you
have to have that intelligence. If we didn't, we're not America.
America knows everything. It's just truth. They know it before
you're going to do it. And especially today, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Wow. When you say that, I mean, 25 years without
your wife.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It's a long time. And the way you describe grief,
I mean, those of us who have lost someone know
exactly what you mean. But, you know, my loss was
I lost my father to cancer and it wasn't a
You know, it was a progress. It was over time. And,
you know, he had lived quite a long life. To
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lose someone in their 20s in such a tragic way,
that grief still hits you.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yes. It's more of you feel like they went to
war but were never signed up kind of deal.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Your wife was on the 105th floor?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, 105th. She worked for the canner.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And you just, you don't know exactly what happened. She
just never got out.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I assume my wife was the first one to call
any one of us, me, her sister, her parents, my sister.
I mean, that's what she did. She reached out every
day and, you know, say hello, what's going on and
But that day, if she couldn't get to a phone,
it was because it was instant and, you know, kind
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of had no chance. But in the other hand, I
have also one of my cousins that lost his wife
that worked on the floor above her. I think it
was the floor above her because I think E-Speed was
the floor above. And she was pregnant at the time.
She got the chance to call my cousin and left
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a voicemail to him. So, you know, depending on where
she was, if she was on the floor or she
was downstairs at a cafeteria, I don't know, because she
didn't specify, but she was able to call and leave
a message.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But he lost her.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah. And she was pregnant of almost, I think, eight
months at the time. It was. So he lost two people.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So 25 years later, it feels like we've forgotten.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah. To me, it does anyway. Most people forgot. It's
not taught in schools and it's not, um, every year
they do the ceremony and it's great for us and
it's a time of peace and honor and respect. And
we get to pray over our loved ones, but, um,
they show that day or the day before all the, uh,
(11:40):
the tragic that happens through video and news and, you know,
just articles that come out and, But during school periods
where kids go to school, I think is a time
where they should say in history, you know, we were
targeted and left for, you know, dead in this part
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of the world. The tragedy is they killed 3,000 people
for no reason. Reasons that have nothing to do with
us personally. With the outside political world, whatever it is,
whatever their reasoning is, we don't know. I don't know. And,
you know, at this point, do I care? I only
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care what they did. And it affected my life and
my family's life from that point on. You know, it's
totally a different life that we have today.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Well, I think that what you said about it being
political is interesting right now in this political landscape. And
that is something that you are fighting back against right
now with the memorial service that's coming up because you
don't want the mayor there. And I understand not wanting
the mayor there. The mayor has been associated with and
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defended people who were even potentially involved in 9-11.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes. His father wrote a book about it. They praised
the terrorist that did it. He hangs around with the
people that say it should have happened. Our ask is simple.
On the 25th anniversary, we're trying to stay focused to
honor the victims and survivors. Us. Nobody else. You know,
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for him to be there is a slap in the face,
salt in the wounds, whatever you want to call it.
He shouldn't come. He should just say, you know what?
I understand. Just like he's backed out of going to
the 93 bombing ceremony that they had. He's backed out
of the Jewish parade or whatever other things that he
backed out of for his own perspective. Take our perspective.
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Just look at it from our eyes and just say, hey,
you know what? I'm going to sit it out. Maybe
I could be the bigger man and sit this one out.
I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Have you heard anything?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
The only thing I've heard is, yeah, I will be
there to support. We don't want your support. We don't
need your support. We just want you to stay home.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Do you feel like this is a moment where he
makes it about himself?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, definitely. It's his way of, I understand he's that
kind of person that wants to put himself in the
middle of everything and have the attention, which, you know,
our attention is not based on focusing on what we're doing.
It's more focusing on everybody out and we're there for
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the special day that they give us at the memorial.
They just, you know, we can go anytime, but that
one day that the day that it happened is a
day for us to pray and to spend time and
be there.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
There's been a lot of, he's come out and he
has surrounded himself with a lot of political people who
have had connections to 9-11 or are choosing to have
connections with 9-11, I should say. I mean, we know
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that Abdul El-Saeed in Michigan campaigned with him. He's campaigning
with Hassan Piker. I think Mamdani has been associated with
Hassan Piker. Hassan Piker, of course, is the podcaster who
said America deserved 9-11. He has his podcast with the
burning building, the newspaper clippings of the burning building behind him.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I've heard.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's totally disgusting. And yet it's not. I mean, it's
kind of a message that's taken over. And it started,
I believe, and you can correct me if you think
I'm wrong, but our college campuses had these DSA chapters
come in, these Democrat Socialists of America chapters. And MSA,
Muslim Students Association, they're really bad organizations that have come
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in and started manipulating the minds of our young people.
And these are people who didn't live through it. You know,
these college students today didn't live through it. I think
about my daughter. She's turning 18 next year. And our
school does take them to the 9-11 memorial in Washington, D.C.,
And even that, you know, going there, you can see
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it's hard for them to connect because it's history to them.
You know, for us, we lived through it. For them,
it's history. And they're going through and they're looking at
the names and they're looking at the ages and they
see that there were kids on the plane. And I
can see they're trying to figure it out. But then
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the propaganda around 9-11 to this day still shocks me
because I'm sure you remember a few years back. when
they started circulating some letter from Osama bin Laden, and
they were saying, look at why he had to do this.
Young college students were saying this was necessary. And my
mind was blown. But people like Mamdani and the people
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that he has lifted up, this Daria Lisa, the Hamaway,
the Kiros lady out of Colorado, you've got Abdul in Michigan.
These are people that are seeking power in the U.S. government.
I mean, you're asking him just to not show up.
But what do you think is the impact of having
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people who are anti-American? And Mamdani calls Daria Aliza the
perfect candidate. I mean, these are scary people that are
being supported and getting into power. How is this happening?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I have no idea. But look, I've posted pictures of
9-11 and there was one that came across that really
got me and it's when they showed a close-up of
the people that were by the broken glass when the
building was on fire and some people jumped, some people didn't.
(18:08):
So some idiot, can I curse on this show or no?
Some asshole wrote, oh, that's AI. So for you to
think that AI manipulated this picture, not knowing that day
people jump, people will buy the window trying to get out.
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You have to be a moron or you just never
saw these pictures and this is your first time. So
goes back to the term in school, they should just
show the people that were on the roof, out these windows,
people jumping as horrifying as it is. This is the
thing they need to be shell shocked. And, you know,
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taken out of this Muslim thought that, you know, we
deserved it and they should come after us because, you know,
that's what they do. It's not like that, for sure.
Show them these pictures, show these videos firsthand to these kids.
Obviously not when they're five, but when there are certain
things that can understand the tragedy that happened, the things
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that affected us most in our life. You know, you
just don't collapse two buildings like that and just say, oh,
it's another day in the world. No, it's not. You know,
this was one of the most terrifying days for America
in our homeland. You know, between Twin Towers hitting the Pentagon,
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the other plane going down, that's major. If people don't
think that's major, then they really don't know what's behind
it and how you feel as a person that lost.
I agree 100% with all the people that this guy
is bringing up to surface to run our government. And
in reality, I don't think that they should. And I
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only blame the Democrats. I can't blame the Republicans. I'd
love to blame both, but I can't. You know, the
Democrats are sitting there letting these people in, this big
tent that they have. feeling that, you know, I don't know,
is it a circus? Because it feels like a circus
to me when you put anybody and anyone, anybody and
everyone that wants to destroy America in this tent. And
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little by little, these people are being kicked out, the Democrats.
They don't care. It's like, we're done with our term.
We're going to let DSA take care of the Democratic party.
And I don't know how long that will last.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Well, no, I mean, it doesn't... essentially is no longer
the Democratic Party. And that's the goal is to make
it the Socialist Party. And that's I mean, this is
how power corrupts, because here are people in power who
are saying we're going to welcome these people in. And
they're not saying they're welcoming them in because they like
their ideas, because if you ask them specifically about the
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individual ideas, well, no, I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But they go along with it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Hakeem Jeffries wants to be the leader. What they aren't
even considering is that they wouldn't be voted in as
leaders with this group because this group absolutely hates them.
I mean, it is stunning to me that this is
the situation that we are seeing on a regular basis
now in the Democrat Party. But as Republicans, how do
you fight against it? And You know, I was speaking
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with a pollster who was saying Republicans have to be
louder about this. And I agree. I mean, I do
think that we have to define exactly what this is
and we have to fight back. Before we got before
we were recording, you said something to me about if
Republicans were saying some of the outlandish things that Democrats
were saying, they would never get away with it. They
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would be that they would just be driven into the
ground by the media.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And yet there's nobody saying anything about these radical, radical
concepts of not just the 9-11 comments, but what goes
beyond that, which is government taking over private businesses, which
is government taking over health care, which is open borders.
I mean, this is everything that leaves us in danger
of another 9-11 or just losing America altogether.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
They're trying to normalize it. And I ask all these
people that follow this DSA, On 9-11, we didn't have ICE.
We didn't have TSA. We didn't have any of that.
The reason why they exist is because of 9-11. And
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to defund it at this point in our life, where
to me, this mayor, and I don't like saying his
name because he doesn't deserve the attention from me, but
it was kind of like a plant, right? 25 years
later to have a Muslim mayor and people, you know,
out of 90,000 plus signatures that I have so far.
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And I hope I get over a hundred and hopefully
a million, but point being, if all these people signed
on and all positive things are said, and I have
maybe one handful of trolls or idiots that would call
me names. And, you know, one guy had the balls
to call me on the phone. Um, But I think
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it's a win. Five people out of 90,000, I'm good
with that. I'm okay with it. I know that I'm
doing something right. I don't hate anyone. I just hate
the people that hate America, the people that want to
destroy us. It's one nation under God for us. For them,
it's not. They'll never say that. Never. And how do
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you forget? We need to keep TSA, and we need
to keep those people in law, the cops, too. Help us. Obviously,
we need all the help we can get when we
have this many people entering our country trying to kill
us or trying to do something to the country. Change it.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Your wife was 29? 29. And you carry her story forward.
A woman who loved her nieces and nephews, loved her family,
loved her husband.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
She loved her family. She loved her job. She was
so excited when she got that job. You know, she
went on an interview. They gave her some kind of
mathematical test. She was in the mortgage-backed security section of
Canopus Gerald. It was three girls at a desk that serviced,
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you know, 50, 60 guys that did the job. And,
you know, they were like the back office for their
job and loved it. Everything about it from the moment
she would be so happy. She didn't say, oh, I
don't want to go to work tonight. She was one
of the happiest persons that loved her job. I have
to say that. It's, you know, 100%. Two days before,
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I think it was the Monday night, she was excited.
Her boss gave us a car to pick us up
to go to the Michael Jackson concert. She got me
tickets for the concert because she knew I liked them.
And we went to the concert. And two days later,
beautiful day, goes to work, and this happens. How do
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you come from having a great time somewhere and then
tragedy just strikes us in an instant? The world, you
don't know what's going to happen. It's insane to say.
But when people say, oh, people can't do that today,
anybody could do what they want if they really want to.
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And it's a shame to say, but it does happen.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I mean, you talk about her being such a light
and you made the comment that 3,000 lights went out
that day. And you are not alone.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Plus, 3,000 plus, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And still going out. I mean, that's the thing. We
still have 9-11 illness. We're still losing people because of this.
It will be an ongoing thing. tragedy for us as
long as we have the United States of America. But
now it's fighting for the United States of America. That
is the crazy part about what we're facing. And as
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we go into these elections, it is just an interesting
cross of the 25th anniversary of 9-11 and suddenly Islamists
coming into our U.S. government. And I have to be
very clear about the fact that there are people that
are running for office who have extreme Islamist views. And
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we are allowed to call that out and say it
is not American and we will not accept it. And
when you have people who are defending Sharia law where...
I mean, look at what we just saw coming out
of the UK. They're now putting out pamphlets saying, hey,
just so you know, you can't rape people if you
come here. You can't rape them. You can't rape children.
You can't mutilate children. This is insane. That can never
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be the United States of America. And if you are
out there and living a Sharia lifestyle and promoting Sharia law,
you don't belong here.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You know, you're right. Everything you said, I agree. the
problem is what I can't understand or swallow is how
does an American person agree with that lifestyle or their
wants and what they want to do here in their,
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you know, positions. As far as I can tell, when
we first, I'm from Italy. I moved here, I was
four years old. OK, going to school, I had an accent.
You know, obviously, if you say to people, you know,
Giovanni Galante, they'll say, no, I know John Galante. They
know me as John in school. Never use the name
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Giovanni because back when I was in school, Giovanni was
a little bit harder to say and it wasn't a
recognized name. And I understood that. And I said, you
know what? Call me John. It's simple. Just do that.
So it being the Italian American that I was because
I'm a citizen now, obviously. And just thinking back to
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those times where America was America, flags, people being strong
about being American. Today, it like disappeared. It's like, how
do you brainwash a whole society of people that actually
live this life here? And the American dream is real
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if you want it. If you don't, it doesn't exist.
But the American dream is here. People need to open
their eyes. People need to be educated. Bring back those
times where people were excited to be Americans. You don't
see it anymore. Very rare. Very little. When I was younger,
everything was built around that. The TV shows, the advertisements, everything. Today,
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it looks like America's involved in destroying America. But who's
behind those curtains? I don't know. Is it Americans that
control the media? The TVs, the shows, the Hollywood bullshit
that goes on. You know, all these people that have
hate for America for no reason. It's like, why? I
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can't get past that. I don't understand it. Coming from
another country and understanding. values there and here. Obviously, Italy
and America, two different places. Italy's beautiful. I love where
I'm from. But America is the opportunity, the place where
everyone comes to build and have a life. What happened?
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I don't know. You tell me. I I can't answer that.
I ask, but nobody can answer it.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And we can't let America fall. And I cannot believe
that you've gone through what you've gone through and lost
your wife, Grace, and you fight for it every day.
And yet you still say this is the place. I mean,
that's the message that we need to get out, that
America is special. It's still special. It's something to be celebrated.
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The idea that you can have. I mean, if you
look at the split between parties on patriotism, it's one
side that has a problem with this country and they've
been fed a line of BS and we've got to
reverse it. And what you're doing is a part of that.
I mean, I think that what you're doing is letting
people know who you are. where you've come from, what
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you've seen, what you've experienced here, and that you're still
fighting back. So you have a petition. Tell people you
want to get more signatures. Tell people where they go
to sign it.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It's on change.org on the 9-11 ceremony. So all you
got to do is put change.org slash 9-11 ceremony and
you'll get the petition. We're up to 90,000 plus signatures
at this point. Obviously, I'm also doing a press conference
on September 8th at 12 o'clock at City Hall. I
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hope I can get people to come, especially family members.
My intention is to have them, you know, their foremost
show unity together with us and obviously anyone else that
wants to be there to help our petition. If I can,
I have a good friend that reached out. His name
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is Jack Joyce. And I don't know if you can
interview him because he has a petition himself going on
for our memorial. at Ground Zero, which is not really
a national park. And he's trying to go through Congress
and get it made a national park. And hopefully he
can succeed. He has some signatures on his petition that
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he started. And all he has to do is get
it in front of the president to sign. The president
said he would. So I'm hoping that it happens for him.
I just want to put that out there for him
because he's been really good and He's a firefighter lieutenant, retired,
and he's lost men from his unit and plenty of
friends through the cancers afterwards. And it's a sad thing
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that someone can have all this loss that's involved and
still fighting strong to try to keep our memorial strong.
I don't know which better way to say that someone
that has heart like him to be strong enough to,
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to carry this on. I mean, he has no one
personally that he lost, no family members, but friends and,
you know, people on his force. So the Jack Joyce,
he can hopefully show his petition with you and.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Absolutely. We will lift him up. That sounds great. And
thank you. Thank you for coming on today. Thank you
for everything you do. We appreciate Giovanni Galante. Thank you
for everything you do. Pleasure meeting you too.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
One nation under God, remember.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Amen. Thank you. And thank you all for listening to
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our history. Thank you so much and have a blessed day.
We are coming up upon the 25-year anniversary of 9-11,
which just totally blows my mind. I can clear as
day remember hearing... I was in Chicago being told, you
can't go into your building, you got to go home,
watching the coverage all day, feeling like we'd never felt before. Honestly,
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we'd never felt anything like this in this country before.
But my guest today... felt it a little bit differently
than most of us. And he feels that alongside 3,000
other families who also lost someone that day. I have
Giovanni Galante with me today, and he is a 9-11 widower.
And he just launched a petition asking the organizers of
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this 25-year anniversary ceremony at Ground Zero to reconsider Mayor
Zoran Mamdani's role in the commemoration. Giovanni, Thank you for
talking about this. Thank you for coming on. I've read
some of the stories that you've written about this. And
the way you say it is just so powerful. The
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fact that you lost your wife, the fact that your
niece will never know her, but she carries her name.
She only knows her from the stories that she's been told.
Those things hit me so hard.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
They do. Thank you for having me on the show.
It's an honor. It's a hard thing to get used to,
especially in the beginning when it first happened. I was
actually at the scene because at the time I worked
for Con Edison and one of my bosses had reached
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out to me knowing my wife worked at the World
Trade Center and said, you know, I don't know what's
going on, but plane hit the building and we're the
first ones notified pretty much because of transformers that are
in the building. you know, everything that our equipment is
stored for the lighting and all of that. So I
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kind of got on the train and my train was
the last stop at Fulton that day. I got out,
you know, obviously smoke everywhere, not knowing the details of
how big the plane was in the beginning because, you know,
we didn't hear it. We just, you know, it was
a plane, not knowing size. And.
(02:19):
Kind of trying to get over there because my wife
was there for 93 and she didn't get home till
past one in the morning that day in February. I
think it was the 26th back then. And we were
kind of worried, me and her family. And I stood there.
I kept trying to get into the circle of getting
close to the building, looking for her, obviously hoping she
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was downstairs already, but couldn't find her. So as I
go to... the building from Liberty Street, I was stopped
by two officers and, you know, I said, hey, I
understand something's going on, but I'm trying to find my wife.
She works at the World Trade Center and I'd like
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to try to get through. She's like, you can't go.
And I'm like, why not? Well, we just got word
that another plane is coming. And that's when my face
kind of like It still gives me chills thinking about
that word that, you know, another plane is coming. Now
you're thinking you're under attack. You kind of feel like,
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you know, I've never been to war. I've never experienced
war where, you know, where America, we've never felt that
kind of fear. So obviously the other plane, as soon
as she said that within maybe half a second, you
hear the big roaring plane right through the other building.
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Now you're running crazy and it's insane. I'm still trying
to get through somewhere to get to that side of
the West Side Highway and it just was a little
bit difficult because everybody's running the other way and within
(04:06):
time and circling and going places is when you start
hearing the rumbling of the building collapsing and then everybody
is now with the smoke behind them coming towards me. And,
you know, I turn and run with everyone, obviously. You know,
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and I go towards the ferry because we lived in
Staten Island at the time. So I walked all the
way to Brooklyn Bridge and all the way home pretty much.
You know, by the time I got to the Brooklyn Bridge,
I was still looking to see, you know, what was
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going on. And then second building goes down by that time.
And now you're like, you know, she's gone. It's like,
how do you live that? How do you come out
of that? And it was kind of a hard thing
to understand going home with just nothing to say, nothing
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to see, nothing to do. It was difficult. I had
this guy that happened to be on the side and
just said to me, he goes, before the second building
went down, he was talking to me. You know, he said,
you know, what's going on? You know, somebody opened it.
I said, yeah, my wife works in the World Trade Center.
She's like, can I? I'm hoping she's, you know, out
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of the building. And he's like, well, you know, last
night we had dog sniffers in the building and, you know,
looking for bombs. And I'm like, looking for bombs. And
they let people go in the building the next day
just like that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, so kind of like- Why did they have
that happening?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
They must've had some kind of threat. They, you know,
obviously all these conspiracy theories that say certain things, I
know by fact that this guy said it to me.
So I don't know what the others of, you know,
if they're true or not, but the facts are this
guy told me this and he didn't know me from
a hole in the wall. And I'm assuming he was
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somebody that was in the field either a cop or
undercover or whatever, and FBI, CIA, who knows what he was,
but he knew as much as that. So I don't
know how many other people knew that. So for me,
it was kind of heartbreaking to hear that it happened
and they knew the day before that something was going on.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And they let people go into that building.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And they let people go in the building. And to me,
to let another plane get close to our building there,
It's kind of like, why wouldn't you, I understand for
the life of the people on the plane, but they
were going to die anyway. Shoot it down. You risked
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thousands of people instead of maybe 100, 200, which died anyway.
They were part of it. It's kind of a hard
thing to swallow your government not being able to force
on that right away. but it happened anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I mean, you said two things that kind of stunned me.
You said that when you walked up, they said, we
hear there's another plane coming because that was a shock
to all of us. And I, like I said, I
remember sitting day after day, seeing the coverage of the
news people going, oh my gosh, another plane just hit.
You know, it was this, it was stunning to everyone else.
(07:33):
But someone on the ground said to you, we hear
there's another plane coming. Like they already knew. And I,
When the guy said to you that they had just
had dogs in there sniffing for bombs the night before,
was he saying that like a, hey, don't worry, it's
not going to blow up?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
No, he said it in a way of he was
shocked that it got this far. If we did our job,
the way it seemed to me is he felt like
they did their job in trying to protect the buildings
and the people. but didn't make it to really help
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because obviously not knowing the plan of a plane coming
through a building and the bomb threat was two different things.
So if you get thrown off by that and then
they do something like this, it's kind of like, you know,
they're trying to throw them off. Obviously they did. They
won that patent in words, in short words.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So what you're thinking is there was intelligence saying that
the buildings were potentially going to be under attack on
September 11th, and it's not... For me.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
There had to be. I feel even the position of
where the president was at the day he was in
a school in Florida, nowhere near the White House, you
have to have that intelligence. If we didn't, we're not America.
America knows everything. It's just truth. They know it before
you're going to do it. And especially today, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Wow. When you say that, I mean, 25 years without
your wife.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
It's a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It's a long time. And the way you describe grief,
I mean, those of us who have lost someone know
exactly what you mean. But, you know, my loss was
I lost my father to cancer and it wasn't a
You know, it was a progress. It was over time. And,
you know, he had lived quite a long life. To
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lose someone in their 20s in such a tragic way,
that grief still hits you.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yes. It's more of you feel like they went to
war but were never signed up kind of deal.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Your wife was on the 105th floor?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, 105th. She worked for the canner.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And you just, you don't know exactly what happened. She
just never got out.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I assume my wife was the first one to call
any one of us, me, her sister, her parents, my sister.
I mean, that's what she did. She reached out every
day and, you know, say hello, what's going on and
But that day, if she couldn't get to a phone,
it was because it was instant and, you know, kind
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of had no chance. But in the other hand, I
have also one of my cousins that lost his wife
that worked on the floor above her. I think it
was the floor above her because I think E-Speed was
the floor above. And she was pregnant at the time.
She got the chance to call my cousin and left
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a voicemail to him. So, you know, depending on where
she was, if she was on the floor or she
was downstairs at a cafeteria, I don't know, because she
didn't specify, but she was able to call and leave
a message.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But he lost her.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah. And she was pregnant of almost, I think, eight
months at the time. It was. So he lost two people.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So 25 years later, it feels like we've forgotten.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah. To me, it does anyway. Most people forgot. It's
not taught in schools and it's not, um, every year
they do the ceremony and it's great for us and
it's a time of peace and honor and respect. And
we get to pray over our loved ones, but, um,
they show that day or the day before all the, uh,
(11:40):
the tragic that happens through video and news and, you know,
just articles that come out and, But during school periods
where kids go to school, I think is a time
where they should say in history, you know, we were
targeted and left for, you know, dead in this part
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of the world. The tragedy is they killed 3,000 people
for no reason. Reasons that have nothing to do with
us personally. With the outside political world, whatever it is,
whatever their reasoning is, we don't know. I don't know. And,
you know, at this point, do I care? I only
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care what they did. And it affected my life and
my family's life from that point on. You know, it's
totally a different life that we have today.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Well, I think that what you said about it being
political is interesting right now in this political landscape. And
that is something that you are fighting back against right
now with the memorial service that's coming up because you
don't want the mayor there. And I understand not wanting
the mayor there. The mayor has been associated with and
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defended people who were even potentially involved in 9-11.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes. His father wrote a book about it. They praised
the terrorist that did it. He hangs around with the
people that say it should have happened. Our ask is simple.
On the 25th anniversary, we're trying to stay focused to
honor the victims and survivors. Us. Nobody else. You know,
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for him to be there is a slap in the face,
salt in the wounds, whatever you want to call it.
He shouldn't come. He should just say, you know what?
I understand. Just like he's backed out of going to
the 93 bombing ceremony that they had. He's backed out
of the Jewish parade or whatever other things that he
backed out of for his own perspective. Take our perspective.
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Just look at it from our eyes and just say, hey,
you know what? I'm going to sit it out. Maybe
I could be the bigger man and sit this one out.
I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Have you heard anything?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
The only thing I've heard is, yeah, I will be
there to support. We don't want your support. We don't
need your support. We just want you to stay home.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Do you feel like this is a moment where he
makes it about himself?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah, definitely. It's his way of, I understand he's that
kind of person that wants to put himself in the
middle of everything and have the attention, which, you know,
our attention is not based on focusing on what we're doing.
It's more focusing on everybody out and we're there for
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the special day that they give us at the memorial.
They just, you know, we can go anytime, but that
one day that the day that it happened is a
day for us to pray and to spend time and
be there.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
There's been a lot of, he's come out and he
has surrounded himself with a lot of political people who
have had connections to 9-11 or are choosing to have
connections with 9-11, I should say. I mean, we know
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that Abdul El-Saeed in Michigan campaigned with him. He's campaigning
with Hassan Piker. I think Mamdani has been associated with
Hassan Piker. Hassan Piker, of course, is the podcaster who
said America deserved 9-11. He has his podcast with the
burning building, the newspaper clippings of the burning building behind him.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I've heard.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It's totally disgusting. And yet it's not. I mean, it's
kind of a message that's taken over. And it started,
I believe, and you can correct me if you think
I'm wrong, but our college campuses had these DSA chapters
come in, these Democrat Socialists of America chapters. And MSA,
Muslim Students Association, they're really bad organizations that have come
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in and started manipulating the minds of our young people.
And these are people who didn't live through it. You know,
these college students today didn't live through it. I think
about my daughter. She's turning 18 next year. And our
school does take them to the 9-11 memorial in Washington, D.C.,
And even that, you know, going there, you can see
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it's hard for them to connect because it's history to them.
You know, for us, we lived through it. For them,
it's history. And they're going through and they're looking at
the names and they're looking at the ages and they
see that there were kids on the plane. And I
can see they're trying to figure it out. But then
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the propaganda around 9-11 to this day still shocks me
because I'm sure you remember a few years back. when
they started circulating some letter from Osama bin Laden, and
they were saying, look at why he had to do this.
Young college students were saying this was necessary. And my
mind was blown. But people like Mamdani and the people
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that he has lifted up, this Daria Lisa, the Hamaway,
the Kiros lady out of Colorado, you've got Abdul in Michigan.
These are people that are seeking power in the U.S. government.
I mean, you're asking him just to not show up.
But what do you think is the impact of having
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people who are anti-American? And Mamdani calls Daria Aliza the
perfect candidate. I mean, these are scary people that are
being supported and getting into power. How is this happening?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I have no idea. But look, I've posted pictures of
9-11 and there was one that came across that really
got me and it's when they showed a close-up of
the people that were by the broken glass when the
building was on fire and some people jumped, some people didn't.
(18:08):
So some idiot, can I curse on this show or no?
Some asshole wrote, oh, that's AI. So for you to
think that AI manipulated this picture, not knowing that day
people jump, people will buy the window trying to get out.
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You have to be a moron or you just never
saw these pictures and this is your first time. So
goes back to the term in school, they should just
show the people that were on the roof, out these windows,
people jumping as horrifying as it is. This is the
thing they need to be shell shocked. And, you know,
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taken out of this Muslim thought that, you know, we
deserved it and they should come after us because, you know,
that's what they do. It's not like that, for sure.
Show them these pictures, show these videos firsthand to these kids.
Obviously not when they're five, but when there are certain
things that can understand the tragedy that happened, the things
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that affected us most in our life. You know, you
just don't collapse two buildings like that and just say, oh,
it's another day in the world. No, it's not. You know,
this was one of the most terrifying days for America
in our homeland. You know, between Twin Towers hitting the Pentagon,
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the other plane going down, that's major. If people don't
think that's major, then they really don't know what's behind
it and how you feel as a person that lost.
I agree 100% with all the people that this guy
is bringing up to surface to run our government. And
in reality, I don't think that they should. And I
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only blame the Democrats. I can't blame the Republicans. I'd
love to blame both, but I can't. You know, the
Democrats are sitting there letting these people in, this big
tent that they have. feeling that, you know, I don't know,
is it a circus? Because it feels like a circus
to me when you put anybody and anyone, anybody and
everyone that wants to destroy America in this tent. And
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little by little, these people are being kicked out, the Democrats.
They don't care. It's like, we're done with our term.
We're going to let DSA take care of the Democratic party.
And I don't know how long that will last.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Well, no, I mean, it doesn't... essentially is no longer
the Democratic Party. And that's the goal is to make
it the Socialist Party. And that's I mean, this is
how power corrupts, because here are people in power who
are saying we're going to welcome these people in. And
they're not saying they're welcoming them in because they like
their ideas, because if you ask them specifically about the
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individual ideas, well, no, I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But they go along with it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Hakeem Jeffries wants to be the leader. What they aren't
even considering is that they wouldn't be voted in as
leaders with this group because this group absolutely hates them.
I mean, it is stunning to me that this is
the situation that we are seeing on a regular basis
now in the Democrat Party. But as Republicans, how do
you fight against it? And You know, I was speaking
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with a pollster who was saying Republicans have to be
louder about this. And I agree. I mean, I do
think that we have to define exactly what this is
and we have to fight back. Before we got before
we were recording, you said something to me about if
Republicans were saying some of the outlandish things that Democrats
were saying, they would never get away with it. They
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would be that they would just be driven into the
ground by the media.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And yet there's nobody saying anything about these radical, radical
concepts of not just the 9-11 comments, but what goes
beyond that, which is government taking over private businesses, which
is government taking over health care, which is open borders.
I mean, this is everything that leaves us in danger
of another 9-11 or just losing America altogether.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
They're trying to normalize it. And I ask all these
people that follow this DSA, On 9-11, we didn't have ICE.
We didn't have TSA. We didn't have any of that.
The reason why they exist is because of 9-11. And
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to defund it at this point in our life, where
to me, this mayor, and I don't like saying his
name because he doesn't deserve the attention from me, but
it was kind of like a plant, right? 25 years
later to have a Muslim mayor and people, you know,
out of 90,000 plus signatures that I have so far.
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And I hope I get over a hundred and hopefully
a million, but point being, if all these people signed
on and all positive things are said, and I have
maybe one handful of trolls or idiots that would call
me names. And, you know, one guy had the balls
to call me on the phone. Um, But I think
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it's a win. Five people out of 90,000, I'm good
with that. I'm okay with it. I know that I'm
doing something right. I don't hate anyone. I just hate
the people that hate America, the people that want to
destroy us. It's one nation under God for us. For them,
it's not. They'll never say that. Never. And how do
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you forget? We need to keep TSA, and we need
to keep those people in law, the cops, too. Help us. Obviously,
we need all the help we can get when we
have this many people entering our country trying to kill
us or trying to do something to the country. Change it.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Your wife was 29? 29. And you carry her story forward.
A woman who loved her nieces and nephews, loved her family,
loved her husband.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
She loved her family. She loved her job. She was
so excited when she got that job. You know, she
went on an interview. They gave her some kind of
mathematical test. She was in the mortgage-backed security section of
Canopus Gerald. It was three girls at a desk that serviced,
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you know, 50, 60 guys that did the job. And,
you know, they were like the back office for their
job and loved it. Everything about it from the moment
she would be so happy. She didn't say, oh, I
don't want to go to work tonight. She was one
of the happiest persons that loved her job. I have
to say that. It's, you know, 100%. Two days before,
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I think it was the Monday night, she was excited.
Her boss gave us a car to pick us up
to go to the Michael Jackson concert. She got me
tickets for the concert because she knew I liked them.
And we went to the concert. And two days later,
beautiful day, goes to work, and this happens. How do
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you come from having a great time somewhere and then
tragedy just strikes us in an instant? The world, you
don't know what's going to happen. It's insane to say.
But when people say, oh, people can't do that today,
anybody could do what they want if they really want to.
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And it's a shame to say, but it does happen.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I mean, you talk about her being such a light
and you made the comment that 3,000 lights went out
that day. And you are not alone.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Plus, 3,000 plus, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And still going out. I mean, that's the thing. We
still have 9-11 illness. We're still losing people because of this.
It will be an ongoing thing. tragedy for us as
long as we have the United States of America. But
now it's fighting for the United States of America. That
is the crazy part about what we're facing. And as
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we go into these elections, it is just an interesting
cross of the 25th anniversary of 9-11 and suddenly Islamists
coming into our U.S. government. And I have to be
very clear about the fact that there are people that
are running for office who have extreme Islamist views. And
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we are allowed to call that out and say it
is not American and we will not accept it. And
when you have people who are defending Sharia law where...
I mean, look at what we just saw coming out
of the UK. They're now putting out pamphlets saying, hey,
just so you know, you can't rape people if you
come here. You can't rape them. You can't rape children.
You can't mutilate children. This is insane. That can never
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be the United States of America. And if you are
out there and living a Sharia lifestyle and promoting Sharia law,
you don't belong here.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You know, you're right. Everything you said, I agree. the
problem is what I can't understand or swallow is how
does an American person agree with that lifestyle or their
wants and what they want to do here in their,
(27:43):
you know, positions. As far as I can tell, when
we first, I'm from Italy. I moved here, I was
four years old. OK, going to school, I had an accent.
You know, obviously, if you say to people, you know,
Giovanni Galante, they'll say, no, I know John Galante. They
know me as John in school. Never use the name
(28:05):
Giovanni because back when I was in school, Giovanni was
a little bit harder to say and it wasn't a
recognized name. And I understood that. And I said, you
know what? Call me John. It's simple. Just do that.
So it being the Italian American that I was because
I'm a citizen now, obviously. And just thinking back to
(28:28):
those times where America was America, flags, people being strong
about being American. Today, it like disappeared. It's like, how
do you brainwash a whole society of people that actually
live this life here? And the American dream is real
(28:49):
if you want it. If you don't, it doesn't exist.
But the American dream is here. People need to open
their eyes. People need to be educated. Bring back those
times where people were excited to be Americans. You don't
see it anymore. Very rare. Very little. When I was younger,
everything was built around that. The TV shows, the advertisements, everything. Today,
(29:13):
it looks like America's involved in destroying America. But who's
behind those curtains? I don't know. Is it Americans that
control the media? The TVs, the shows, the Hollywood bullshit
that goes on. You know, all these people that have
hate for America for no reason. It's like, why? I
(29:35):
can't get past that. I don't understand it. Coming from
another country and understanding. values there and here. Obviously, Italy
and America, two different places. Italy's beautiful. I love where
I'm from. But America is the opportunity, the place where
everyone comes to build and have a life. What happened?
(29:56):
I don't know. You tell me. I I can't answer that.
I ask, but nobody can answer it.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And we can't let America fall. And I cannot believe
that you've gone through what you've gone through and lost
your wife, Grace, and you fight for it every day.
And yet you still say this is the place. I mean,
that's the message that we need to get out, that
America is special. It's still special. It's something to be celebrated.
(30:23):
The idea that you can have. I mean, if you
look at the split between parties on patriotism, it's one
side that has a problem with this country and they've
been fed a line of BS and we've got to
reverse it. And what you're doing is a part of that.
I mean, I think that what you're doing is letting
people know who you are. where you've come from, what
(30:45):
you've seen, what you've experienced here, and that you're still
fighting back. So you have a petition. Tell people you
want to get more signatures. Tell people where they go
to sign it.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It's on change.org on the 9-11 ceremony. So all you
got to do is put change.org slash 9-11 ceremony and
you'll get the petition. We're up to 90,000 plus signatures
at this point. Obviously, I'm also doing a press conference
on September 8th at 12 o'clock at City Hall. I
(31:13):
hope I can get people to come, especially family members.
My intention is to have them, you know, their foremost
show unity together with us and obviously anyone else that
wants to be there to help our petition. If I can,
I have a good friend that reached out. His name
(31:34):
is Jack Joyce. And I don't know if you can
interview him because he has a petition himself going on
for our memorial. at Ground Zero, which is not really
a national park. And he's trying to go through Congress
and get it made a national park. And hopefully he
can succeed. He has some signatures on his petition that
(31:57):
he started. And all he has to do is get
it in front of the president to sign. The president
said he would. So I'm hoping that it happens for him.
I just want to put that out there for him
because he's been really good and He's a firefighter lieutenant, retired,
and he's lost men from his unit and plenty of
friends through the cancers afterwards. And it's a sad thing
(32:21):
that someone can have all this loss that's involved and
still fighting strong to try to keep our memorial strong.
I don't know which better way to say that someone
that has heart like him to be strong enough to,
(32:42):
to carry this on. I mean, he has no one
personally that he lost, no family members, but friends and,
you know, people on his force. So the Jack Joyce,
he can hopefully show his petition with you and.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Absolutely. We will lift him up. That sounds great. And
thank you. Thank you for coming on today. Thank you
for everything you do. We appreciate Giovanni Galante. Thank you
for everything you do. Pleasure meeting you too.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
One nation under God, remember.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Amen. Thank you. And thank you all for listening to
the podcast. As you know, you can get it anywhere
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Make sure they know the story. Share these stories because
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(33:36):
our history. Thank you so much and have a blessed day.
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