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August 12, 2026 33 mins

What happens when someone who volunteered for a COVID-19 vaccine clinical trial says the shot changed her life within hours?

On this episode of The Tudor Dixon Podcast, Tudor sits down with Brianne Dressen, co-founder of React19 and a participant in the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine clinical trial, to discuss her experience with what she describes as a severe and lasting vaccine injury.

Dressen recounts developing neurological symptoms shortly after receiving the shot, including burning and tingling, numbness, difficulty walking, sensitivity to light and sound, vision problems, and cognitive issues. She says some symptoms remain with her nearly six years later.

She also describes receiving treatment at the National Institutes of Health, saying the intervention produced a significant improvement but that she has continued to require treatment.

Tudor and Dressen discuss informed consent during vaccine trials, the treatment of people reporting adverse events, Anthony Fauci and the NIH, pharmaceutical-company accountability, and Dressen's allegations that officials knew more about certain adverse effects than was publicly acknowledged. Dressen also explains why she believes further federal investigation is necessary.

It’s a wide-ranging conversation about one woman's experience, unanswered questions from the COVID era, and the continuing debate over transparency, medical treatment, and accountability.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. One thing we have
not talked about a lot on this podcast are people
who were injured by the COVID vaccine. But as we're
watching all of these hearings with Anthony Fauci, and we
have the diaries that have come out, we're starting to
learn more about what he knew and what he wasn't

(00:21):
telling us. I think there's a lot of question also
about this vaccine. I know that in some of these
hearings they were saying these vaccines were just making people
tons of money. It was also an experiment. You knew
it was an experiment, and how much did you know
and when did you know? And obviously Fauci told us
nothing because he was pleading the fifth the whole time.
And the question is will we find out and will

(00:43):
there be anything that can be done for these people
who are vaccine injured? So to get into that, I
want to talk a little bit about what is a
vaccine injury because I haven't had one. I've heard of
people who have. Obviously we've all seen videos of people
who have, but I've never spoken to someone directly who

(01:03):
has experienced a vaccine injury. Oftentimes, we hear about young
kids that are vaccine injured. I honestly thought it was
mostly young kids who are vaccine injured. But now I
think having so many people vaccinated at one time, if
we can even call it vaccinated, because really, some people
are saying that the COVID vaccine wasn't even a vaccine,

(01:26):
so having this experimental medicine put into their bodies, the
reaction for some people was so incredibly adverse but instant too.
So we have someone with us today who experienced a
vaccine injury. This happened, like I said, immediately within an
hour of taking the COVID nineteen vax. Now she is

(01:48):
an advocate for people who were a part of this
clinical trial and they've developed like lifelong neuropathy from this.
Brian Dressen. She is with us today. Brian, thank you
so much much for joining.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Me, Thanks for having me. Happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
You know, there's so much that I want to get into.
I think that people don't even know what some of
these terms mean. Honestly, I didn't know what neuropathy was
until my dad went through chemotherapy and he ended up
with this where it's like you have just pit constant
pins and needles in well, for him it was his
hands and feet. I don't know how much more extreme
it gets, but you within an hour started to feel

(02:27):
that pins and needle feeling.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Right, Yeah, I did. And like you said, neuropathy was
something that most people didn't know about. It's something that
happens from toxic exposure to a drug like chemo, for example,
and it's very widely documented that toxic toxic exposures can
cause this type of nerve damage. It's not something that

(02:51):
should be happening in healthy young people. It's something that
can happen from diabetes or chemotherapy, and that's historically where
we've seen this. But now, because of the COVID vaccines
and in a subset of people that have COVID itself,
we're seeing a huge spike in these neuropathy cases that

(03:14):
do feel like pins and needles, burning, tingling, numbness. If
you can remember that those few times where you've fallen
asleep on a leg or an arm weird and your
limb feels really heavy and numb, but it still is
prickling and tingling and burning, that's the most similar likeness

(03:37):
that we can describe that it feels like that but
instead of it being transient and coming and going, it's
there all the time, so it doesn't matter there. Yeah,
for me, it's still with me. I was vaccinated April
or November four, twenty twenty, and here we are five
and a half years later, almost six years later, and

(03:59):
I still have it every minute of every day. And
it started within one hour of my shot. Oh.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I mean, I know for my father when he was
going through chemo toward the end of his life, he
couldn't really he had to walk with walker because you
can't feel. You can't feel your feet, can't feel where
they are touching the ground. Is that would you say
that that's something you experienced too? Have other people? I
know you've talked about it being forty thousand people that

(04:25):
you your organization is now representing who have been vaccine
injured by the covid vacs. Is that something that people
have experienced? Do they need assistance walking because of this?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, it's because it's going untreated. And I'm so sorry
to hear about your dad. It's seeing people that are
dealing with this progressive type of neuropathy. It's heartbreaking because,
like you said, it impairs people's mobility for some people
like myself. I can still kind of feel in my

(04:59):
hands and in my legs, but they're very much numb
and burning and tingling all the time. And when I
have flare ups, then my legs just don't work very well.
And then I'm climbing, you know, up the stairs using
the railing, I'm sliding back down. You know. I'll be
in a wheelchair sometimes, especially at the beginning, I was

(05:20):
in a wheelchair a lot. But it's it's something that
we can avoid, and there are treatments that can help
reverse the severity of it. But the public just wasn't informed.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So take us through what happened, because you did. I mean,
you were bedridden for a bit of time. You came
out of this, You ended up with blurred and double vision,
You had extreme sensitivity to sound, light, and teeth sensitivity.
I mean, this sounds like being trapped in your own
body when it's just rebelling against you.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it that's a very that's the perfect description. That's
exactly what it felt like. It felt like waterboarding. I
was completely isolated from my family. If you think about
these symptoms, they sound disheartening, but when you apply them
into an everyday life. That's when you really realize the impact.
So I had two young kids, they were six and

(06:13):
eight at the time, and I was holed up in
my bedroom, you know, towels over the window coverings to
make it as dark as possible. Even the sound of
my dog panting was too much for my ears. The
sound of my little girl's angelic little voice was too
much for my ears. The sound of running water was

(06:33):
too much. So I was completely isolated from my life,
from my children, from my husband. So it was solitary confinement.
It was hell on earth.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's interesting, and you kinta, you kind of have to
wonder if this I mean, obviously they were trying to
get your body to become immune to COVID nineteen. I
have friends who actually ended up with the virus and
had some of these same symptoms who weren't vaccinated but

(07:05):
became extremely sensitive to sound in light, like extremely four months.
Now this went away for them, but so extremely that
it was like you couldn't have music on in the car,
you couldn't be at a big event, you couldn't go
anywhere where there was lots of sound because it was
just so overwhelming. Is this something that were they able

(07:25):
to trace that back to something that was in the
disease or how did that? How does this happen?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
So it's interesting and I appreciate that you that you
shared you know people that have had this same reaction
from COVID itself, because that's what we have found as well.
The first people that I found that had this issue
were from COVID itself. For the record, I had never
had COVID up until this point. That's why I qualified
to enroll in the clinical trials for the COVID vaccines

(07:54):
here in the US. Right. But it's the role of
the spike protein. It's whether it's vaccine generated or from nature, nature.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Or from a lab.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Wow. Yeah, the wild spike is as we say, so,
they're both neurotoxic and when they cross the blood brain barrier,
they're hitting some really really important things in your brain
and in your nervous system that should not have foreign
invaders attacking, right, which could trigger this hypersensitivity to light

(08:32):
and sound, teeth sensitivity, neuropathic issues where your legs stop working,
you become incontinent, give the burning and tingling.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
This all comes back to a neurotoxic pathogen invading the body,
and for some reason, it hits women at a higher
rate than men. There's a lot of studies going into
why that happens, but people still don't really have the
answer to That could be a slightly higher rate of estra,
or it could because we don't have the levels of

(09:04):
testosterone that men have naturally, But regardless, it's something that
people should be aware of because when it happens, there's
nothing you can do about it. Like you said, you're
not going to a restaurant, you're not taking your kids
to school, you're not making yourself food because even the
clinging of the pants in the kitchen and the sizzling

(09:24):
of the food is too painful. So, if you're at
a sporting event and you're a healthy body like functioning,
if you can imagine a bullhorn going off right next
to your head, what your body's physical reaction is to
get away from that sound, right, It's that jolt. It's like,
oh my gosh, it's horrible, that's what it's like. But

(09:46):
with sizzling from a cooking steak in the kitchen or
running water, it's that horrible of a visceral reaction for
your body.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, So tell us before this before this, obviously you're
with us watching everything that's happening. It's twenty early twenty twenty,
everything shuts down. You were actually helping to secure and
ninety five masks. You're trying to make sure that everybody
has everything they need to fight this virus. You are

(10:20):
very involved, I mean more involved than the average person
who has two young kids. You are trying desperately to
make sure that everyone's okay. Your husband is a PhD.
He's a chemist. I'm sure at some point you're both thinking,
like we are in the science realm, we have to help,
so you actually get involved in this study. How old

(10:41):
are your kids at this point?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
My kids were six and eight during this time, and
my primary focus was obviously to help them thrive through
this experience. It was very scary for all kids. Right
the schools were shut down, They couldn't play with their
friends anymore, you know it. It was a very scary
time for them. So we did our best to make
their life as happy and as healthy as it could

(11:06):
be here on the home front. But then we also
wanted to show them that just because you know the
world or the country has fallen on hard times, doesn't
mean that there is something we can do to help, right,
So we largely got involved in collecting supplies for the
Navajo nation that got hit hard with COVID early on,
and then we collected masks and donated those to the

(11:28):
hospital systems. We have friends and family that were working
in the hospitals that were told that they were not
able to be protected. And this isn't just protected against COVID.
I'm talking about surgeons going in and doing surgeries on patients, right,
because people still were needing emergency surgeries, whether the hospitals

(11:49):
wanted them to or not. Right, there was still medical
care that needed to happen. So those masks were bloody, right,
they had problems. They should not have been required.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
They were seeing masks for surgeries.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yes, got so unsanitary, so unhealthy, so just not okay. Right.
So so my friends and my family they would talk about, Look,
I've got blood on my mask, and I'm going from
one oar into another office or into a patient's room
to give them a console, tell them what's going on
with their body. And I've got someone else's blood on

(12:26):
my face. And the hospitals were not giving them clean
ppe so clean masks. So it was. It just felt
like it was a natural thing to do. Okay, so
let's set up the neighborhood. Hey, does anybody have any
masks that the hospital can use? And so then we
just started driving around picking up masks off people's porches.

(12:47):
But it was really just because it made sense that
our people that are taking care of of our our population,
doing surgeries and helping people that really were in need,
we help them and we support them. So that's where
we were at. We did the social distancing. We did
it so well that none of us sitting then had COVID,

(13:09):
which is why I qualified with the clinical trials for
the vaccine.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
So I wanted people to kind of see that side
of you, because here you are this active, young mom,
young kids, still saying I'm putting my community first, I'm
going to take care of everybody. I want everyone to
have as normal of an experience as possible during this,
but also very active. So you go from that to overnight,

(13:33):
unable to get out of bed, unable to care for
your kids, can't make them food, can't even have conversations.
I mean, you talk about the memory loss and the
brain fog, and I think people sometimes kind of pooh pooh,
brain fog, Like, what does that really mean? I mean,
you were talking about getting to the point where I
assume think I might not make it through this. So

(13:54):
you write letters to your kids, and you looked back
on those and you said they were incoherent because you
really were at a point where your mind was not working.
And I think that's the thing that most people cannot
understand if they've never gone through an injury like this.
How could a pharmaceutical company end up damaging people so

(14:15):
badly and there is no repercussion for them. But also
something that you talked about on one of the other
shows that I found very interesting was the National Institute's
for Health said, come let us help you. You went there,
they had a protocol. When you went back home, doctors
at home were like, we don't really do vaccine injury.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
What yah? Yeah, So I was gasolt at home, so
my legs weren't working okay, and I had all kinds
of problems, and the doctors here said it was anxiety
due to the COVID vaccine. And so the NIH flew
me out. And this is under Fauci's arena, by the way, right,
So he was aware of the study. There are some

(15:00):
emails that just recently came out that showed that he
was discussing and top leadership, including Francis Collins, who was
the fauci's boss at the time. They were having a
discussion of whether or not to publicize the study, whether
or not to talk about the study. But then they
also were talking about how concerned they were that the
study was happening at the NIH at all because they

(15:23):
were worried about vaccine hesitancy. They were not worried about
the scientific basis or the physiologic issues that could be
driving these injuries, not at all. Nowhere in there did
they say these injuries aren't happening either. These injuries were
one hundred percent validated at the NIH. I have a
diagnosis opposed to vaccine neuropathy from the NIH. Right, So

(15:48):
they were worried about vaccine hesitancy. They weren't worried about
disclosing and making sure that these injuries that were very severe,
very neurotoxic, right, They didn't care about that. What they
cared about was how many people were not going to
get the shot if they found out about me and
the others like me.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So, how did you get into this study because this
was ultimately astrozenica, which is the vaccine that you took,
was not approved in the United States. So what happens?
How did they find you? How was it like, hey, you,
I guess because you hadn't had COVID, but I mean still,
how did you get contacted? And then what is that process?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Like?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Do you are you essentially signing your life away without
really realizing it?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
No? That so all you know, and this is how
it was in the clinical trial as well. There is
what's called an informed consent document. So by law, whatever
drug that they give you, which for me, it was
phase three of that clinical trial, which means that they've
gone through two pretty thorough phases, which means they've got
a whole lot of data on what these vaccines were

(16:57):
and were not doing. By that point, they already knew
that my issue could happen, but they failed to inform me,
which they were required by law to inform me that
this could happen before before I took the shot. They
actually updated my informed consent document within days of my enrollment,

(17:19):
and after I already had the shot and already was
going through the injury myself. They revised the informed Consent
document to have exactly what I was going through on
there that they just failed to inform me just a
few days before I got it. So, which is dirty
pool by the way. So anyway, so the NIH, it's
the same thing. So then I usually say, okay, here's

(17:41):
our protocol that if you qualify, we'd like to run
you through. There's a treatment that we'd like to have
you try. And ironically, because my husband's a scientist, he
was looking up treatments for previous vaccine injuries, right, so
neuropathic issues from HPV vaccine, the flu shots, and all

(18:01):
of these have had similar issues, just not at a
high of a rate. Right, So it hasn't happened at
the level that it was happening with the COVID vaccines.
But you took this scientific literature and said, look, there's
this treatment steroids, IVG, things that suppressed the immune system
and bring the overreactive immune system down that could help

(18:24):
my wife. Look, this has happened with other vaccines. Can
you please give this a try? And they're like, no, no,
we're not going to do that. So then the NIH,
this is exactly the treatment that they wanted to offer
and to see how we did with it. So, of
course for us it felt like it was a well
informed decision. It was a treatment that we were trying
to get at home but we couldn't, and so the

(18:46):
NIH just said, yeah, let's fly you out and let's
see how you do with it.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
So we signed up and how did that go?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well? On the flight out to the NIH, my husband
had to carrying me onto the plane and lay me
onto three rows and I was shaking and very frail.
I was just skin and bones at that point. And
after being at the NIH for eight days and getting

(19:14):
this treatment, I was able to at least walk onto
the plane and sit in a seat upright through the flight.
They have me on a wheelchair getting to the plane,
in a wheelchair getting to the car after the flight.
But at least that's the easiest way that I can
describe the difference that it made.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
So is that like a one time protocol you just
have to go there and then have and that's what
your your organization is helping other people get or what
is that? Yeow?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, So the NIH was hoping that it would be
like a one hip wonder people that have had this
from COVID itself have had to have continual doses of
this IVAG, which is immune cells health people's immune cells.
But they were hoping that for us, because it was
the vaccine, that the reaction would be less severe and

(20:08):
so we would just need one hit of it and
that would be good. But just like the people dealing
with mone covid, and this is a continual issue that
people are having from the COVID vaccines, I still to
this day am getting this medication every two weeks. When
I don't get it, things go rapidly back to where
I was at the beginning, which is an absolute nightmare.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
You told a story about an eight year old who
had the same reaction, and they essentially the state took
her away from her mother and put her in a
psych ward instead of treating her. Treating her and then
you were able to get her out of there, or
her mother broke her out of there and used is
it's the same protocol that you're talking about, And then

(20:53):
she walked into school the next year, but she was
fully in a wheelchair. She was incapable of walking.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, so she was in a wheelchair in diapers and
because she was eight years old and her body was
burning and tingling. She was crying all the time. She
was eight years old, so she couldn't articulate like an
adult cook can about the horrific experience that she was
enduring in her body day in and day out. She
wouldn't let anyone touch her. I totally understand what she

(21:22):
was going through, right, and I would never ever ever
wish this on my own enemy, let alone a child. Right,
It's horrible. So she was then admitted to a psych
word because the doctors didn't want to admit that a
vaccine could do this, and there she just declined over
three weeks. She just got worse and worse and worse

(21:43):
because they were not treating it as an immune mediated disease.
They were treating it like it was a psych case.
So her mom found us and we gave her the
secrets of the NIH, We gave her financial resources. She
broke her kid out of a psych world, took her
kid across state lines, got her kid the treatment that
she needed from a doctor that's on our underground network

(22:06):
through our organization at REACT nineteen and true. Because of
the programs we've set up, the kid was treated and
she walked into school that fall as if nothing had
happened to her. It put her into complete remission.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
But you're I mean you literally just said your underground network.
I mean, why why is there no diagnosis code for this?
Why is this something that's off the map? Why do
you have to have doctors underground that aren't a part
of big hospital systems that Maybe it's because they're owned
by big Pharma and Big Pharma has immunity on these
vaccine events and they don't have to they don't have

(22:43):
to have a diagnosis code, or maybe they have control
and they're refusing to have a diagnosis code. How can
there have to be underground doctors in the United States?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
It doesn't make any sense, does it. It's insane to
me me be honest, like, yeah, So the reason why
is because Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins at the NIH, Peter
Marks at the FDA, Joe Biden, and the entire White
House none of them said a word about these adverse

(23:12):
effects when they had the data, They even had the
treatments that could help reverse these severe conditions, Yet they
said nothing. This is one of the things that Senator
Johnson keeps talking about as being one of the biggest
scandals in his lifetime in our lifetime, is this huge
cover up because it goes beyond just inform consent providing

(23:36):
people with the proper ability to understand the risks and
the benefits of the vaccine that they were mandated to get.
It goes way beyond that. They were leaving people for
dead who were having problems from the vaccines. And these
were things that they knew about, and why did they
not say anything. Wasn't science based at all. It was
due to vaccine hesitancy.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
They were afraid other people wouldn't get their vaccine, and
ultimately Astrozenica didn't continue in the United States. But there's
no You've tried suing them, you've gotten against them. They
came back and offered you like twelve hundred dollars. You
have hundreds of thousands of dollars into trying to fix
your body. And I saw one of the pictures that

(24:21):
you took of all the different medications that you've taken,
which to me is so indicative of how the pharmaceutical
world works. And I think this is something that RFK
has been talking about, is that it's not always just
the next medicine, and that our doctors are not treated
or not taught to treat the body with everything, and

(24:42):
that includes food, and that includes consumption. Everything that you
put in your body should be a discussion with the doctor.
But they are just really prescribers at this point, too
many of our medical our physicians are just prescribers and
they don't treat the whole body. And this is like,
how can there be an in the United States, no
matter what side of the political aisle that you're on,

(25:04):
that doesn't say, yeah, I feel like if I'm going
to the doctor, they should fully understand the body. They
should fully understand how to treat me. And it's not
I'm telling you, it's not unique to this. I'm a
cancer survivor. I had breast cancer. When I had breast cancer,
they were like, you should really eat well. And I said, okay,
what does that mean? And they were like, Eh, we

(25:26):
don't really know. I mean, I'm not kidding you, that
was the response. And I'm like, do you have like
a pamphlet on it? I mean, And at this point,
I was at Johns Hopkins and I will never say
anything bad about I had a great experience at Johns Hopkins,
but there really wasn't anything there and it wasn't their fault.
It was they didn't have any kind of nutritional data

(25:49):
on what you do if you have cancer? Is there
something that you should be concerned about what you're consuming?
And that is to me what RFK is saying, like,
why are we not talking about the nutrition that's going
in your body and what you're eating? Because because I
don't know what's nutritious. That's that's what I kept saying
to them. I don't know if I'm eating toastios, is

(26:12):
that a chemical?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
You know?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
If I'm eating if I'm eating milk, is the milk
that I'm getting okay? Or is it treated with something?
You know, like, if I am consuming these products that
I get at the grocery store, are they healthy or not?
I never questioned that before I had cancer. But there's
literally no answer.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yep, yeah, it's it's wild and it's food. Was the
number one was the first thing that I figured out
that could help me. So that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
So you have had that experience, you found things one.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Hundred percent Yeah, And but just like you, it was
like I didn't realize that the milk that we were
consuming had you know, additives of things in it to
clean it right, that those things all have by products
and disrupting factors. And you know, even the dishwashing solution
that we have, the you know, the detergent that we

(27:08):
use to wash our clothes, or water we drink, all
of it has been messed with. To find things that
are pure and unadult traded from nature. In America today,
it's near impossible even organic the title organic that you know,
lobbies are messing with that so they can do all

(27:28):
kinds of GMLO and different elements to it. There's it's
it's a whole rabbit hole. And I appreciate that that
Bobby Kennedy is bringing this to light because it's so
important for anyone that's dealing with complex chronic illnesses, you know,
post cancer patients. You know, it's it's something that we
all should be aware of. And like you said, the

(27:51):
doctors are not getting trained on this. Bobby Kennedy has
talked about this that they literally have like fifteen minutes
on training on nutrition in medical school. They get about
the same amount of time on vaccines. It's a huge,
huge hole that needs to be filled well.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
And I think it's stunning to me that you see
all of this data, and now you see everything that's
coming out of these diaries from Fauci and everything that
went into studying coronavirus that ultimately I believe created COVID
nineteen and this gain of function research. And yet that
is not to make us healthier. That was never to

(28:34):
make us healthier. That was to study a disease. Why
are they not studying chronic disease that we are dealing
with right now? I mean, that's what I think is
shocking that you don't have people going, well, wait a minute,
wait a minute, why did the government do this, And
why is the government not concerned with childhood diseases? Chronic
childhood disease is going up so significantly, even the chronic

(28:56):
diseases that are going up so significantly, and people in
their twenties, their thirties, the number of people in their
twenties and thirties that are now getting colon cancer is
stunning to me. I mean, and when I was I
was thirty eight when I had breast cancer, and they
kept telling me, oh, we're seeing it younger and younger. Okay, well,
why isn't that where our taxpayer dollars are going? Why
is this happening, and it's happening in the United States.

(29:19):
So what is it that we are letting into our
food supply that is causing this? And then you have
people that are suffering from autoimmune diseases that are ten
times worse because of what's in our food. It just
it is shocking to me. Before I let you go,
knowing what you know and having experienced what you've experienced,
but now just seeing what we saw with the hearings

(29:43):
with Fauci, what you've seen in his diary. If you
could speak to him, what would you say?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
If I could speak to him in my very kindest,
like mother voice, it really would be you know, like
how do you sleep at night? There's two different realities
that went on. There's the reality inside his head that
we saw, you know, in the words of his personal
diary they was hoping would come in to be published

(30:15):
into a heroic book. And then there's what we all experience,
which was it was very agenda driven. It was militant,
and it was Vauchie's way or no way. And the
repercussions for that for going against what Vauchi's way was

(30:36):
was you lost your job, you couldn't feed your kids anymore.
You lost your reputation, you lost your good, healthy relationships
with your family members and your friends. There was significant
loss for people. And those are just the people that survived, right.
This isn't even talking about the people that lost their
lives and the loved ones that are now dealing with

(30:59):
the grief, the deep grief and loss from losing their
loved ones during the pandemic. He's living in a totally
different reality than the rest of us.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
What should happen next in the federal government, he.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Needs to be charged. He needs to be charged. There
needs to be full you know, legitimate investigations through the
Department of Justice. By the way, the US Senate Investigations
can can do a lot. They can they can highlight
a lot, and they do have some type of authority

(31:35):
to subpoena people. But at the end of the day,
it's ultimately up to the DOJ to do their job.
I never would have thought before this experience that the
DJ was political. I always thought that they were much
more governed by the law. But through this experience, I've
seen firsthand how political the DJ is. So they will

(31:57):
only file charges if the people above them and political
positions tell them that they will file the charges. So
we've got a lot of work to do in this country.
We the people really need to continue to step up
and demand justice and answers on this issue. Everyone's tired

(32:21):
of COVID, but unless we stick with it and demand
better from this administration, the likelihood that this is going
to happen again in our lifetime is extremely high. So
we need to say that we're not going to do
this again and demand accountability.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's the same thing we just heard from Senator Ron Johnson,
so I appreciate you reiterating that fact. And I just
want to say you are a blessing. I cannot imagine
going through what you've gone through and being able to
put together an organization and fight the way you do
and go after the pharmaceutical company the way you have.

(33:04):
I just think that I know for you it probably
feels like it's such a long slog every day, but
from the outside watching you, it's an americle. I mean,
you are an amazing woman.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Oh, thanks so much. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well, thank you so much for coming on today and
sharing your story. Briand Dress, and thank you again, thank
you and thank you all for joining us. On the
Tutor Dixon podcast for this episode and others. You can
always go to the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, Rumble, or YouTube,
but make sure you subscribe and join the Tutor Dixon
podcast the next time. Right now, have a blessed day,

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