September 2, 2026 • 32 mins
Tudor Dixon is joined by Evita Duffy Alfonso for a wide-ranging conversation about patriotism, America’s universities, the rise of socialism among Gen Z and what conservatives must do to win over the next generation.
Evita shares stories from her family’s Great American Road Trip and explains why seeing America firsthand can help young people reconnect with the country’s history, culture and values. She also opens up about her experience as a conservative student at the University of Chicago and discusses the challenges conservative and Christian families face when deciding where to send their children to college.
Tudor and Evita examine ideological conformity on college campuses, whether conservatives should fight to reclaim institutions like Harvard and Yale rather than abandon them, and how universities could be held accountable through federal funding and tax policy.
Plus, Evita discusses why socialism is gaining traction with some young Americans struggling with housing costs, groceries and an increasingly elusive American Dream—and argues that Republicans need to offer tangible economic solutions rather than simply dismissing those frustrations.
They also discuss her husband Michael Alfonso’s run for Congress in Wisconsin, the emerging Gen Z conservative movement and why the battle for America’s next generation may reshape the future of both political parties.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast. We have someone with
us today who I've met her mom and dad on
many occasions. They're awesome people, but I'm so excited to
meet Evita Duffy Alfonso and have her on the podcast today. Evita,
thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, thanks for having me. I'm really happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Absolutely. So for the people that don't know, she is
the daughter of Secretary Sean Duffy and Fox & Friends
host Rachel Campos Duffy. And she is right now talking
about her family's great American road trip that you are
probably going to want to check out. And I love
I was reading why you wanted to go on the
road trip. And it just like touches my heart because
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this is exactly how I feel about my own family.
I want them to see what America really is. And
the best way to see it is to actually take
your family to see it. And we have been traveling
to visit colleges because my oldest is a senior. We
just went through D.C. and I got to take them
really quickly to see some of the actual history of
this country. It's different when you see it, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, you want to see it in person. My dad
always says to know and to love America. You actually
have to see America. And I think more than ever, right,
we're in the 250th anniversary of our country now. this
amazing celebration, birthday party. And yet there's so many people
who I think feel disconnected from their country. I think
a lot of us, you know, have been fed this
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narrative of American shame, that we're told we can't be
proud of who we are, of our heritage. And I
think the best way to refute that narrative, especially I
think what we saw in 2020, right, where they tore
down statues of George Washington and Abe Lincoln and is
to actually go on a road trip and see America
firsthand and fall in love with it in a way
that you will never be able to do in a
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classroom or scrolling through TikTok or listening to the nightly news.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
There really is no country like ours. I mean, it's
been interesting because I'm in Michigan and we've had these guys,
they're called Josh and Jace, and they travel around the
United States, but they've been spending a lot of time
in Michigan and they're from the U.K., And it's been really,
for us in Michigan, we've been so proud to have
them be like, this is amazing and this is amazing.
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But I think about the fact that we are rarely
seeing the beauty and the amazement of our country and
the history that is a hard history, but a history
that is important to learn. And when we went to Washington, D.C.,
I took my girls through the Museum of African American History.
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And one of the things that I thought as I
went through there was it was really hard to follow
the actual hard, dark history of African-Americans in this country.
And it's something that we should know because we have
fought so hard as a country to be different, to
be better, to constantly improve. And it's something that we
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have to talk about. And the idea of ripping down
statues that you don't like the history that they belong
to really means that you don't get to know why
we changed.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I mean, yeah, these are very uninformed, I think, like
radical Marxist activists. So tearing down a statue of Abe
Lincoln in the context of anti-racism is absurd, right? Or
even tearing down statues of St. Junipero Serra, who is
this amazing Catholic saint, predates the founding of America, but
he advocated extensively for the rights of Native Americans in
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the Americas when they were in conflict with the Spanish.
And he would actually report to Spain like, hey, They're
not treating them well. Statues of San Junipero Serra were
taken down, which is absolutely absurd. And I think we
need to return to actually understanding our history and our heritage.
And also, I like that you were talking about Michigan.
I'm from Wisconsin. I'm another Midwest girl. I love Wisconsin.
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I have so much pride in my state. Traveling around
America makes you realize how regional our country is, how
distinct and beautiful each different part of our country is.
Europeans on TikTok, a lot of times they'll say, Americans
have no culture. Americans have nothing to really be proud of.
And then I think a lot of Americans left and
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right will push back and say, actually, our country is
is so distinct and beautiful. And you actually have to
go see it to realize that.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
But it's true.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I think actually during the World Cup, a lot
of people were realizing how distinct and beautiful our country
is in the different parts. And they're and they're different.
But they but you have to actually see it to
experience and understand that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So that was kind of the reason, from my understanding,
of the Great American Road Trip is to show people
what we have here. And you've got, obviously, the secretary,
the transportation secretary, who is your dad, who's like, you
know what? I want people to... move about the country.
I want them to use their transportation to see different
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parts of this country. And a group came to him
and said, would you do this? And I love his response.
It's like, my whole family has to be on board,
which is a massive amount of people. How many people
exactly went on this road trip?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, so there's nine Duffy siblings. And so I guess
nine of us went on, including my husband. One of
my brothers did not join. He's in California. He's got
a very demanding job, so he couldn't come on all
these trips. But he's he's wonderful. He loves America. He's
a patriot, too. But but yeah, but the rest of
us all went on it. And I think we all
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had different reasons for joining. You know, one of the
reasons I really wanted to join is as we're talking
about being disconnected from America as a country, I think
a lot of times people are disconnected from their own
families and going on this road trip and experiencing America
firsthand with my little siblings while they're still young, I just,
it was such a special experience for me. You know,
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as you get older, life gets crazier and busier and
you don't have this time to like soak in just
life with your family in the way that I think
a road trip really allows you to do. Putting aside
time and just sitting in the car with nothing to
do but talk to one another is amazing. mundane and
can be boring. And then when you look back on it,
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you realize, actually, that was one of the most special
experiences of my life.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
It's really I mean, we've just had this experience. We've
gone on a few road trips in the last few years,
and I have four daughters. So as I just said,
my oldest is a senior this year, and we've driven
around to look at universities, different colleges to see what
she where she wants to go. which is also a
beautiful thing to have the kids kind of experience what
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that next step in education is and all the girls
to experience that together. But we had the same experience
kind of behind the scenes of everybody singing songs in
the car together, everybody just chattering away, you know, talking
about how different. It was interesting for us because we're,
you know, in Michigan, we don't really have the whole
like going up and down hills and mountains. And as
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we were going through the mountains, the girls were like,
what is happening to my ears? You know, and I'm like,
this is so funny because if you didn't grow up here,
you've never really experienced this. But To see the different
parts of the country for them, and for me as
a parent, to see it through their eyes and have
them see all of this for the first time was
very exciting. We are incredibly blessed. Our states are the
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size of European countries, so we have just such a
diverse landscape for our kids to experience without having to
go through customs, without having to go with passports. And
that's what I think is so incredible about this country.
But as we were doing this, we're also kind of
getting the experience of what the American University is today.
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And so I saw that you guys were getting a
bunch of kind of, I guess I'd say heat for
a clip that came out from the road trip. And
I want to play that. And then I want to
talk about it because we've had a similar situation. So
Here's the clip that we're referring to. Can't say no.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
To Harvard? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Well, me and mom can say no.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Catholicism to us is everything. It's the basis of our marriage.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's the basis of our family.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So I'm nervous about that. the idea of Paloma going
to Harvard. We spend a lot of time nurturing and
providing formation for our kids, giving them an environment where
they are steeped in faith and values. And so the
idea of dropping her off at a place that would
undermine that or try to undo all those things.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Makes me worried.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And again, I don't want them to get one viewpoint.
I want them to get a lot of different viewpoints,
but I don't want them fed only one viewpoint that's
contrary to the way my kids were raised. Listen, my
problem is, We have thought about how we raised you
and how hard we've worked to, I think, raise what
is a remarkable young girl. If I send you there,
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I think what happens is they have professionalized figuring out
how they can take good young girls like you and,
I think, corrupt their minds. You don't have to believe
what I believe. You don't have to have the political
viewpoints that I have. But I do think it's important
that you make those choices for yourself And you have
a fair representation of what they are. And I don't
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think the Harvards of the world give you that kind
of well-rounded picture.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, that hits me so hard because as a parent,
I mean, I've been a daughter who went to college
and now I'm a parent with a daughter who's about
to go to college. And as I watched that and
I saw the backlash, I thought, we are never allowed
to criticize parents. the left for their decisions. But this
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is a very personal decision within a family. And we
are now in a position as Christians where we look
at universities and we have to say, is my child's
foundation and faith going to be strong enough to go
up against that right now? Because there's still 18 is
still a very moldable age. And that's why they're at
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the university. That's why they have the communists there. That's
why they have the atheists and the agnostics and the
Satan worshipers. I mean, to be honest, that's why there
are so many dangers at universities, because you're still moldable.
And it's a A strong message for a Christian family
to put out.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, I mean, it's yeah, I mean, you hit the
nail on the head there. The university system was founded
in the Middle Ages to be explicitly Christian in truth seeking.
And that is the exact opposite today. They've been infiltrated
by Marxists since the 1960s and even before. And they've
abandoned the idea of truth seeking itself. In fact, when
I went to the University of Chicago, I was taught
that truth doesn't exist. And so then I kind of thought, well,
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what am I doing here if not to look for
the truth? And, you know, I had a very difficult
experience at UChicago. I'm the oldest of the Duffy kids
and I oppose socialism. I made a statement about it
and I got wild canceling ridicule from my classmates. They
attacked my appearance and they said people should stop me
from voting. I got a death threat. David Axelrod, who
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was the director of the Institute of Politics at the
time at UChicago, that's Obama's former chief advisor. He had
to step in and tell the students, hey, this is
having a chilling effect on free speech. It's not good
for our campus. Please stop harassing this girl. So that's
how bad things got. And my experience, I think, was
very traumatic for my parents. And they afterwards have been
very careful about where they send the rest of my
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siblings to school because they don't want this to happen again.
But if you actually watch the episode and if you
watch the show, you'll figure out where Paloma ends up going.
But in the episode, there is a bit of an
arc because we talk to a Catholic priest at Harvard
and come to realize that there is a very strong,
vibrant Catholic Christian community at Harvard, small, but a very
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strong one. And I think that I don't want to
abandon our institutions to the political left. And this is
something that my dad and my mom kind of come
to the conclusion of as well. We don't want to
give the media to the left. It's like we don't
want to give government to the left. It's like we
don't want to give Harvard to the left. And so
if you have a strong student, one with character and
conviction who a parent thinks can handle a place like Harvard,
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and that's not every student, but if they think their
child can handle it, I don't necessarily think it's bad
to send them there because we want to bring Harvard back.
And so there's a really interesting discussion going on from
the road trip of where is the balance, which kids
are prepared for that, which kids aren't. But I think
ultimately a really fruitful and necessary one.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, I think that is the question today. Do you
have children at this age, young adults, that are strong
enough to try to go against that wave because we
do have, I mean, I think it's funny what you
just said really struck me is that you went against
the grain and you had the conservative opinion and the
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response was she shouldn't be allowed to vote. The response
is to immediately take your rights away.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yes. Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's stunning to me. I mean, but that but that
is communism. I mean, that is socialism. It's like if
you're not if you're not with the entire group, you
or your opinion cannot continue, you know. And so I
do think that that's important. And I think conservative parents
are looking to parents like your parents and saying, what
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did you do? Like, how did you handle this? What
how do we support our kids? I know I have
a girlfriend right now who's child is applying to the
University of Michigan. And in Michigan, you should be able
to go to your state. If you have the grades,
you should be able to go to your state school
and you should get a good education at your state school.
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And Michigan is a good education. But it was interesting
as they're writing out the application and they're doing the essays.
It's like, tell us something that you think the government
could do in your town to improve things. And there
was a family discussion of should you say what you
really think as a conservative or is that immediately disqualifying?
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And how do you write the essay, not just for yourself,
but if you really want to get into a state
school and it's more affordable, you know, we can afford
to send you here. It's a great education, but how
do you write an essay to get in? We shouldn't
have to think that way.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, well, and it's interesting that you say that. I mean,
there's a lot of students that I knew who went
into college The University of Chicago has closeted conservatives and
they would not be honest in their essays because they
were afraid of being punished. There is a lack of
intellectual diversity at these schools. And so they have diversity
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of everything, of gender, of sex, of race, except for
of thought. There's no diversity of thought. And that ultimately
is very bad for a college campus because what happens
is people go out into the real world and they
assume that there's only one way of thinking. There's an
orthodoxy of thought in America, and they become tyrants and
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very intolerant to other viewpoints. Just as an example, when
I first stepped on campus, and before I even had
a class, I had to have a little meeting with
my house, with my floor on campus. You get to
know everybody that lives there. Your RA will have you
all come together and meet. My RA said, okay, everybody
go around and say your name and your pronouns. What
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does that do? That means that the default is you
can have any gender you want, right? There's no discussion
of is it male and female or is it he, them, they, these, right?
The default is you can be anything and pronouns are
completely normal and exist. And so they set up a
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system where you really don't even, there's not really a
discussion about it. And in fact, having a discussion about
it would be seen as intolerant and wrong. And that's
ultimately not good for an education either.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, it's interesting because I think this is in
just the past few years where we've started to realize,
but it's been going on for way longer than this,
this indoctrination on campus and that you have to be
a leftist to be accepted. But I think that conservatives
really didn't realize it was happening. And then once it
started happening to them, It was kind of a shameful
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thing and they didn't even want to admit it. You know,
it was like nobody really understood what was happening. But
a few years back, I was at a Republican Governors
Association meeting. And one of the gentlemen who I was
seated next to was a had always been a Democrat.
He's like, I've lived in California my whole life. It's
just obvious that I was a Democrat. I'm a Indian
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and I am. work at a university. He was like
a researcher. And he's like, or no, he worked at
a tech company. He was like, this is just the
obvious next step in my life was I was going
to be a Democrat. And he said, my son worked
way harder than I had ever worked to even start
up my tech company. He's like, he worked his tail
off through school. He gave up sports. He gave up
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time with friends. And he applied to the Ivy Leagues
because his goal was to get into Harvard. And he
said his niece was who also was in California, was
at a high level of learning, had an Indian-Asian background,
he was like, we just assumed that they were both
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going to end up getting into one of these schools.
He said, my niece decided to trick the system and
she applied as a transgender student. And he said, my
son just applied us himself and had worked his tail off,
had the grades, had all of the qualifications to get in.
They denied him. They accepted her. And she said he
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said she got in second semester. changed her pronouns back,
went into the studies that she wanted to, got out
of the women's studies that she said she was going
to go into, but she was in by that time
and there was nothing they could do. He was like,
when I realized we had to trick the system. And
I think, my gosh, we still are. Here I have
my friend who's writing a different essay because they're so,
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they want the education of University of Michigan. They feel
exactly like you said, that their child has the foundation
they need And they should be allowed to get it
because of the in-state tuition. But we as conservatives are
having to trick the system. That's shocking.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's deeply unjust. And when I say that, you know,
we want Harvard, right? We want to take back Yale
as conservatives. We don't want to cede them to the left.
That includes sending strong conservatives to these schools. But it
also means making sure that there's a fair playing field.
So the Supreme Court obviously ruled that they can no
longer be implementing affirmative action. But schools like Harvard have
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been proven to actually, they're doing it anyways. They're basically
ignoring the Supreme Court And so they're having like diversity
statements and they're taking those into account. So even though
you can't they won't they can't consider it if you
check that you're black or or or Native American and
admit you because of that, they will still take into
account your diversity statement. So it's it's still happening. And
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what needs, I think, to to happen to reform these schools, because,
by the way, even the private ones aren't really private.
They're all receiving federal dollars. We need to use the
power of the federal purse to actually put pressure on
these schools. So there's no more federal funding if you
have fake fields of study like critical race theory or
fat studies or post-colonial studies. These aren't real fields of studies.
These are Marxist-inspired fields of study that the left has
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put in and claimed that they're real and they're obviously not.
They're indoctrination machines. They're activist classes. They need to go.
There also needs to be diversity in student admissions and diversity,
viewpoint diversity, I mean, especially in the hiring process because
right now, you have 90 to like 99 percent left
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wing professors at these elite schools and they are purposely
blocking out conservative ones. The other thing is that these
schools have multibillion dollar endowments that are completely tax exempt.
But these are essentially for-profit institutions, so they should not
be getting these special privileges from the government if they're
going to be net negatives on our society. So there
needs to be punishments for these schools if they're going
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to behave badly. And that's what I think ultimately will
make some real change is money, because that's what they
care about.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, I mean, that's what we've said, whether it is
schools that are going after kids and transing kids behind parents'
backs and all the things that we see happening, whether
it is lower school or higher ed, it comes down
to money. When you hit someone in the pocketbook, that changes,
and they don't want to do it again. They don't
want to. They see their neighbor's school, have it done
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to them, and it changes people. But I do think
there's also accountability for Congress to make sure that they
are modeling the values of the United States. And I
say that because you happen to know someone who's running.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So your husband is running for Congress in Wisconsin, Michael Alfonso.
Tell us a little bit about how he decided. Is
this your dad's old seat?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes, it is my dad's old seat. So my husband
and I were born and raised in Wisconsin. He and
I met in middle school in Wausau, Wisconsin, which is
like the largest city in the district. And so if
Michael and I are 26, if he's elected, He will
be the youngest member of Congress, but also he will
be the first member of Congress born this century, which
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I think is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, very cool.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And, you know, Michael and I are very young, but
what we tell people a lot is, you know, we
have the values of, I think, traditional conservatives. And I
think as crazy as it might seem, there's actually a
large and growing portion of Gen Zers who feel that way.
We have been we've hit rock bottom. Michael and I
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know people who have been tranced and regret it. You know,
Michael and I, we went through a school system that
taught us to be ashamed of our country since we
were in elementary school. We have been in critical race
theories ever. in college. We had the mask mandates. We
had the BLM riots, you know, as we were growing
up and coming into our adult years. So we've been
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intimately formed by radical leftism, I think impacted by it
in a very negative way. And so a lot of
times some people fall into it and they agree with
it and it warps their brain. It's like a mind virus.
But others, I think, go in the exact opposite direction.
That's why President Trump won young men by he swung
the Gen Z young male vote by over 20 points.
in 2024. That is because there are people in our
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generation who want something different. And I think Michael is
a great representation of that. And I think he'll be
a wonderful representation of the Gen Z conservative movement in Congress,
as well as, of course, our constituents in the 7th.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Okay. Well, as a Gen Z person, how do we
get them back? Because I appreciate what you're saying. And
I think there are some really conservative areas in this country.
And we do have conservative men in those areas. But man,
I mean, look at, well, look at Francesca Hong in Wisconsin.
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Look at Abdul in Michigan. I mean, I'm watching and
even Will Lawrence in Michigan. I'm watching young people who
are just flocking to these guys, other socialists. but they're
dangerous socialists. I mean, this is some pretty radical stuff.
This is changing the country type of stuff. And I
look at who they're hanging around with, and I see
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Hassan Paikra, who just over the weekend was singing the
We Are Charlie Kirk song and mocking the assassination of
a strong Christian man on the right, who was one
of the people that I felt was bringing young men
into the fold. How do we fight this? This is
pure evil.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It is periodical and it's actually terrifying. So they talk
about affordability and making life better for people. But actually,
if you dig a little deeper and you look at
any place that communism has been tried, it has been
very bloody. And Hassan Piker has said he wants the
streets to run red with capitalist blood. So that's a
terrifying statement. But a lot of young people aren't flocking
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to this ideology because they want to see the streets
run red with capitalist blood. they're actually just normal people
who can't afford their groceries and they're not going to
buy a house. And I think they feel like there's
no future. They have no hope. The average first-time homebuyer
in this country is 41 years old. It was 40
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last year. Now it's 41. It keeps going up. That's
a big problem. That means the American dream feels and
in a lot of ways actually is unattainable for my generation.
The way that we combat this, the way that we
combat the Marxism is not by denying that the Marxists
are correct in identifying real problems and pain that people
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are going through. It's to actually address them with right
wing populism. It's to deliver results for young people. So
that would mean banning private equity firms from buying up
single family homes. That means bringing up deportation numbers to
bring up the value of labor. That means tax breaks
for married couples with children, American energy independence, focusing on
our country and not forever wars and things that are
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in other countries that are irrelevant to the people here
at home. So we can deliver for young people in
a way that is real and concrete. We just actually
have to do it. And unfortunately, what the left is offering,
they're identifying all the problems, but what they are offering
is equitable suffering for everyone. So we have to identify
that and then actually.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Fix the problems. It's been hard for us to educate.
I think it's... it kind of came on so fast.
It's challenging to go up and say, well, wait a minute,
what they're offering is not housing for you. It's not
the American dream. It's a commune where the government owns
your house and you all have to live together. I mean,
it's very hard to get people to understand that the
words they're saying do not match the actions that they
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want to take. How do we do that as a
Republican Party? And it feels like my gosh, we're we
are practically into September now and we have not defined
to the other side in many of these races. And
I know people are getting scared.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, well, I mean, I think what's interesting is the
left wing base is radical in that way. So here
in Wisconsin, Francesca Hong was was presumably going to actually
win the Democrat nomination for governor. And she is a
radical candidate. DSA member. She also wants to get rid
of Thanksgiving and hates Culver's and white people. Wisconsin's like
an 85% white state.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
No one hates Culver's. That's insane.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
You can't hate Culver's, but Francesca does. She's a crazy person.
She almost won. And I think the only reason that
she didn't is because the Democrats realized in our state, oh,
I don't know if we can get away with this
in Wisconsin. But make no mistake, they want to get
away with it any way that they can. And they
have in places like New York and California. So it's
coming everywhere. They're just being a little more incremental about
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it in the swing states. But ultimately, they want this everywhere.
And ultimately, this is a youth movement. So if you
look at Francesca Hong, where was she doing the best with?
I think it was Democrats under 40. she had like
in the 80s, she was winning them by. Now, there's
an older electorate that still has a lot of power
in this country, and they were able to offset her.
(27:21):
But in a few years, this is going to have
a lot more power. Every year, it's going to have
more power. And so like I said, we have to
combat this with right-wing populism. This is left-wing populism. We
combat it with right-wing populism. We actually deliver for the
American people and genuinely put Americans first. I think Sometimes
we're conservatives. We say, oh, we're going to you know,
(27:43):
we love free trade and I love free trade, too.
I think that's awesome. But if the free trade is
not fair trade, which is something that President Trump talks
about all the time, then we're actually we actually are
hurting Americans here at home. Might be good for Wall Street,
might be good for big business, but it's not good
for the individuals. So we have to be considering the individuals,
the success and the prosperity of actual American, the actual
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American working class people over everything else. And if we
do that, I think we can win them back.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And we need a message that's not just that other
side is bad. I mean, you're right about this. We
have got to come out and say, we see you.
We hear that you have these problems. And this is
the solution to those problems. And that's what I've felt like.
There are so few people like you that are out
there saying, this is what's happening. This is what we
can do to fix it. So I hope that you
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will continue to go out there and talk to other people,
other politicians. I do think that on the Republican side,
We get caught up in what politics have always worked.
And this generation that those politics don't work on this generation.
You made two very interesting statements. People are the average
age is 41 for new house buying and people under
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40 are voting for these people. So there's I mean,
there's a correlation here where the American dream is. is
something we all have been taught our whole lives. That
I think is consistent. Everybody knows what the American dream is.
And if they can't get there, they're going to the
side that is saying, we'll give it to you. But
I feel like it's, I mean, it's like the story
(29:16):
of Hansel and Gretel. It's like, oh, it all looks great.
You can eat the entire house, but you're going to
end up getting boiled for dinner. So stop, stop allowing
these young people to be It's to be enticed by
the mirage of what the socialists are offering. But we
have to offer something else.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah. And you have to validate them when they say, hey,
things are really expensive. I can't afford my groceries or
I'm using Binance. now, pay later schemes to get make
ends meet at the end of the month. We have
to say, hey, that's really bad. I agree. People are struggling.
If you don't validate their feelings and you deny that
it's happening, you are begging the communists, the DSA members
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to take them in and have them be lifetime voters.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I will say there is a faction of my generation
and definitely my mom's generation that is annoyed by the
idea of what you just said, like validating these feelings,
because there are a lot of people who are older
who go, we all lived through that, but it is different.
And it is hard to see unless we are really
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actively talking about that. And that's why conversations like this
are so important, that we are able to say, look,
I mean, here you are, 26 years old, and you
have a daughter. You're a young woman who's married with
a daughter. Your husband is running for Congress. But you're
seeing the struggles that people are going through. And we
have to take a step back from our own world
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where we say, well, you fought through it. You know,
college is more expensive now. And I get it. There
are expenses that we didn't have. There weren't even cell
phones when I graduated from college. You know, like there
are expenses that you guys have that we didn't have,
that we have to understand what the average family is
putting together today and what their fight is and how
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they go up against that fight and how we as
Republicans can say, we hear that and there are different options.
So I appreciate it, everything you're saying. And I said
that from the standpoint of I really do believe that
there are some of us who are unwilling to see it,
but we have got to take a step back and
look at the cost of everything. Before I let you go,
(31:26):
the Great American Road Trip, how do people watch it?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up because I
would have forgotten. Okay, so if you want to watch
the Great American Road Trip, it is on YouTube at
the U.S. Department of Transportation's official YouTube channel. You're going
to see all, I think there's seven episodes, little mini series.
There's clips everywhere. But if you want to actually watch
the show, it's on YouTube, the Department of Transportation's channel.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Well, we have to see where she goes to college. Yes,
you have to know.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It's a big mystery. So you'll find out.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I wanted to ask you, but then I was like, okay,
she made it clear. I'm not allowed to know. So
I have to watch.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's a tease.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Good.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Thank you so much, Evita Duffy. Thank you for coming
on today.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And thank you all for watching the Tudor Dixon podcast.
You can get it wherever you get your podcasts, the
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share it and watch The Great American Road Trip right now.
Have a blessed day.
Welcome to the Tudor Dixon podcast. We have someone with
us today who I've met her mom and dad on
many occasions. They're awesome people, but I'm so excited to
meet Evita Duffy Alfonso and have her on the podcast today. Evita,
thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hey, thanks for having me. I'm really happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Absolutely. So for the people that don't know, she is
the daughter of Secretary Sean Duffy and Fox & Friends
host Rachel Campos Duffy. And she is right now talking
about her family's great American road trip that you are
probably going to want to check out. And I love
I was reading why you wanted to go on the
road trip. And it just like touches my heart because
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this is exactly how I feel about my own family.
I want them to see what America really is. And
the best way to see it is to actually take
your family to see it. And we have been traveling
to visit colleges because my oldest is a senior. We
just went through D.C. and I got to take them
really quickly to see some of the actual history of
this country. It's different when you see it, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, you want to see it in person. My dad
always says to know and to love America. You actually
have to see America. And I think more than ever, right,
we're in the 250th anniversary of our country now. this
amazing celebration, birthday party. And yet there's so many people
who I think feel disconnected from their country. I think
a lot of us, you know, have been fed this
(01:27):
narrative of American shame, that we're told we can't be
proud of who we are, of our heritage. And I
think the best way to refute that narrative, especially I
think what we saw in 2020, right, where they tore
down statues of George Washington and Abe Lincoln and is
to actually go on a road trip and see America
firsthand and fall in love with it in a way
that you will never be able to do in a
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classroom or scrolling through TikTok or listening to the nightly news.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
There really is no country like ours. I mean, it's
been interesting because I'm in Michigan and we've had these guys,
they're called Josh and Jace, and they travel around the
United States, but they've been spending a lot of time
in Michigan and they're from the U.K., And it's been really,
for us in Michigan, we've been so proud to have
them be like, this is amazing and this is amazing.
(02:16):
But I think about the fact that we are rarely
seeing the beauty and the amazement of our country and
the history that is a hard history, but a history
that is important to learn. And when we went to Washington, D.C.,
I took my girls through the Museum of African American History.
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And one of the things that I thought as I
went through there was it was really hard to follow
the actual hard, dark history of African-Americans in this country.
And it's something that we should know because we have
fought so hard as a country to be different, to
be better, to constantly improve. And it's something that we
(02:58):
have to talk about. And the idea of ripping down
statues that you don't like the history that they belong
to really means that you don't get to know why
we changed.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I mean, yeah, these are very uninformed, I think, like
radical Marxist activists. So tearing down a statue of Abe
Lincoln in the context of anti-racism is absurd, right? Or
even tearing down statues of St. Junipero Serra, who is
this amazing Catholic saint, predates the founding of America, but
he advocated extensively for the rights of Native Americans in
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the Americas when they were in conflict with the Spanish.
And he would actually report to Spain like, hey, They're
not treating them well. Statues of San Junipero Serra were
taken down, which is absolutely absurd. And I think we
need to return to actually understanding our history and our heritage.
And also, I like that you were talking about Michigan.
I'm from Wisconsin. I'm another Midwest girl. I love Wisconsin.
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I have so much pride in my state. Traveling around
America makes you realize how regional our country is, how
distinct and beautiful each different part of our country is.
Europeans on TikTok, a lot of times they'll say, Americans
have no culture. Americans have nothing to really be proud of.
And then I think a lot of Americans left and
(04:15):
right will push back and say, actually, our country is
is so distinct and beautiful. And you actually have to
go see it to realize that.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
But it's true.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I think actually during the World Cup, a lot
of people were realizing how distinct and beautiful our country
is in the different parts. And they're and they're different.
But they but you have to actually see it to
experience and understand that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So that was kind of the reason, from my understanding,
of the Great American Road Trip is to show people
what we have here. And you've got, obviously, the secretary,
the transportation secretary, who is your dad, who's like, you
know what? I want people to... move about the country.
I want them to use their transportation to see different
(04:55):
parts of this country. And a group came to him
and said, would you do this? And I love his response.
It's like, my whole family has to be on board,
which is a massive amount of people. How many people
exactly went on this road trip?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, so there's nine Duffy siblings. And so I guess
nine of us went on, including my husband. One of
my brothers did not join. He's in California. He's got
a very demanding job, so he couldn't come on all
these trips. But he's he's wonderful. He loves America. He's
a patriot, too. But but yeah, but the rest of
us all went on it. And I think we all
(05:28):
had different reasons for joining. You know, one of the
reasons I really wanted to join is as we're talking
about being disconnected from America as a country, I think
a lot of times people are disconnected from their own
families and going on this road trip and experiencing America
firsthand with my little siblings while they're still young, I just,
it was such a special experience for me. You know,
(05:49):
as you get older, life gets crazier and busier and
you don't have this time to like soak in just
life with your family in the way that I think
a road trip really allows you to do. Putting aside
time and just sitting in the car with nothing to
do but talk to one another is amazing. mundane and
can be boring. And then when you look back on it,
(06:11):
you realize, actually, that was one of the most special
experiences of my life.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
It's really I mean, we've just had this experience. We've
gone on a few road trips in the last few years,
and I have four daughters. So as I just said,
my oldest is a senior this year, and we've driven
around to look at universities, different colleges to see what
she where she wants to go. which is also a
beautiful thing to have the kids kind of experience what
(06:37):
that next step in education is and all the girls
to experience that together. But we had the same experience
kind of behind the scenes of everybody singing songs in
the car together, everybody just chattering away, you know, talking
about how different. It was interesting for us because we're,
you know, in Michigan, we don't really have the whole
like going up and down hills and mountains. And as
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we were going through the mountains, the girls were like,
what is happening to my ears? You know, and I'm like,
this is so funny because if you didn't grow up here,
you've never really experienced this. But To see the different
parts of the country for them, and for me as
a parent, to see it through their eyes and have
them see all of this for the first time was
very exciting. We are incredibly blessed. Our states are the
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size of European countries, so we have just such a
diverse landscape for our kids to experience without having to
go through customs, without having to go with passports. And
that's what I think is so incredible about this country.
But as we were doing this, we're also kind of
getting the experience of what the American University is today.
(07:44):
And so I saw that you guys were getting a
bunch of kind of, I guess I'd say heat for
a clip that came out from the road trip. And
I want to play that. And then I want to
talk about it because we've had a similar situation. So
Here's the clip that we're referring to. Can't say no.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
To Harvard? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Well, me and mom can say no.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Catholicism to us is everything. It's the basis of our marriage.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's the basis of our family.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So I'm nervous about that. the idea of Paloma going
to Harvard. We spend a lot of time nurturing and
providing formation for our kids, giving them an environment where
they are steeped in faith and values. And so the
idea of dropping her off at a place that would
undermine that or try to undo all those things.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Makes me worried.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And again, I don't want them to get one viewpoint.
I want them to get a lot of different viewpoints,
but I don't want them fed only one viewpoint that's
contrary to the way my kids were raised. Listen, my
problem is, We have thought about how we raised you
and how hard we've worked to, I think, raise what
is a remarkable young girl. If I send you there,
(08:55):
I think what happens is they have professionalized figuring out
how they can take good young girls like you and,
I think, corrupt their minds. You don't have to believe
what I believe. You don't have to have the political
viewpoints that I have. But I do think it's important
that you make those choices for yourself And you have
a fair representation of what they are. And I don't
(09:17):
think the Harvards of the world give you that kind
of well-rounded picture.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, that hits me so hard because as a parent,
I mean, I've been a daughter who went to college
and now I'm a parent with a daughter who's about
to go to college. And as I watched that and
I saw the backlash, I thought, we are never allowed
to criticize parents. the left for their decisions. But this
(09:42):
is a very personal decision within a family. And we
are now in a position as Christians where we look
at universities and we have to say, is my child's
foundation and faith going to be strong enough to go
up against that right now? Because there's still 18 is
still a very moldable age. And that's why they're at
(10:04):
the university. That's why they have the communists there. That's
why they have the atheists and the agnostics and the
Satan worshipers. I mean, to be honest, that's why there
are so many dangers at universities, because you're still moldable.
And it's a A strong message for a Christian family
to put out.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, I mean, it's yeah, I mean, you hit the
nail on the head there. The university system was founded
in the Middle Ages to be explicitly Christian in truth seeking.
And that is the exact opposite today. They've been infiltrated
by Marxists since the 1960s and even before. And they've
abandoned the idea of truth seeking itself. In fact, when
I went to the University of Chicago, I was taught
that truth doesn't exist. And so then I kind of thought, well,
(10:45):
what am I doing here if not to look for
the truth? And, you know, I had a very difficult
experience at UChicago. I'm the oldest of the Duffy kids
and I oppose socialism. I made a statement about it
and I got wild canceling ridicule from my classmates. They
attacked my appearance and they said people should stop me
from voting. I got a death threat. David Axelrod, who
(11:08):
was the director of the Institute of Politics at the
time at UChicago, that's Obama's former chief advisor. He had
to step in and tell the students, hey, this is
having a chilling effect on free speech. It's not good
for our campus. Please stop harassing this girl. So that's
how bad things got. And my experience, I think, was
very traumatic for my parents. And they afterwards have been
very careful about where they send the rest of my
(11:30):
siblings to school because they don't want this to happen again.
But if you actually watch the episode and if you
watch the show, you'll figure out where Paloma ends up going.
But in the episode, there is a bit of an
arc because we talk to a Catholic priest at Harvard
and come to realize that there is a very strong,
vibrant Catholic Christian community at Harvard, small, but a very
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strong one. And I think that I don't want to
abandon our institutions to the political left. And this is
something that my dad and my mom kind of come
to the conclusion of as well. We don't want to
give the media to the left. It's like we don't
want to give government to the left. It's like we
don't want to give Harvard to the left. And so
if you have a strong student, one with character and
conviction who a parent thinks can handle a place like Harvard,
(12:14):
and that's not every student, but if they think their
child can handle it, I don't necessarily think it's bad
to send them there because we want to bring Harvard back.
And so there's a really interesting discussion going on from
the road trip of where is the balance, which kids
are prepared for that, which kids aren't. But I think
ultimately a really fruitful and necessary one.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, I think that is the question today. Do you
have children at this age, young adults, that are strong
enough to try to go against that wave because we
do have, I mean, I think it's funny what you
just said really struck me is that you went against
the grain and you had the conservative opinion and the
(12:53):
response was she shouldn't be allowed to vote. The response
is to immediately take your rights away.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yes. Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's stunning to me. I mean, but that but that
is communism. I mean, that is socialism. It's like if
you're not if you're not with the entire group, you
or your opinion cannot continue, you know. And so I
do think that that's important. And I think conservative parents
are looking to parents like your parents and saying, what
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did you do? Like, how did you handle this? What
how do we support our kids? I know I have
a girlfriend right now who's child is applying to the
University of Michigan. And in Michigan, you should be able
to go to your state. If you have the grades,
you should be able to go to your state school
and you should get a good education at your state school.
(13:42):
And Michigan is a good education. But it was interesting
as they're writing out the application and they're doing the essays.
It's like, tell us something that you think the government
could do in your town to improve things. And there
was a family discussion of should you say what you
really think as a conservative or is that immediately disqualifying?
(14:04):
And how do you write the essay, not just for yourself,
but if you really want to get into a state
school and it's more affordable, you know, we can afford
to send you here. It's a great education, but how
do you write an essay to get in? We shouldn't
have to think that way.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, well, and it's interesting that you say that. I mean,
there's a lot of students that I knew who went
into college The University of Chicago has closeted conservatives and
they would not be honest in their essays because they
were afraid of being punished. There is a lack of
intellectual diversity at these schools. And so they have diversity
(14:42):
of everything, of gender, of sex, of race, except for
of thought. There's no diversity of thought. And that ultimately
is very bad for a college campus because what happens
is people go out into the real world and they
assume that there's only one way of thinking. There's an
orthodoxy of thought in America, and they become tyrants and
(15:02):
very intolerant to other viewpoints. Just as an example, when
I first stepped on campus, and before I even had
a class, I had to have a little meeting with
my house, with my floor on campus. You get to
know everybody that lives there. Your RA will have you
all come together and meet. My RA said, okay, everybody
go around and say your name and your pronouns. What
(15:24):
does that do? That means that the default is you
can have any gender you want, right? There's no discussion
of is it male and female or is it he, them, they, these, right?
The default is you can be anything and pronouns are
completely normal and exist. And so they set up a
(15:44):
system where you really don't even, there's not really a
discussion about it. And in fact, having a discussion about
it would be seen as intolerant and wrong. And that's
ultimately not good for an education either.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, it's interesting because I think this is in
just the past few years where we've started to realize,
but it's been going on for way longer than this,
this indoctrination on campus and that you have to be
a leftist to be accepted. But I think that conservatives
really didn't realize it was happening. And then once it
started happening to them, It was kind of a shameful
(16:18):
thing and they didn't even want to admit it. You know,
it was like nobody really understood what was happening. But
a few years back, I was at a Republican Governors
Association meeting. And one of the gentlemen who I was
seated next to was a had always been a Democrat.
He's like, I've lived in California my whole life. It's
just obvious that I was a Democrat. I'm a Indian
(16:39):
and I am. work at a university. He was like
a researcher. And he's like, or no, he worked at
a tech company. He was like, this is just the
obvious next step in my life was I was going
to be a Democrat. And he said, my son worked
way harder than I had ever worked to even start
up my tech company. He's like, he worked his tail
off through school. He gave up sports. He gave up
(17:01):
time with friends. And he applied to the Ivy Leagues
because his goal was to get into Harvard. And he
said his niece was who also was in California, was
at a high level of learning, had an Indian-Asian background,
he was like, we just assumed that they were both
(17:23):
going to end up getting into one of these schools.
He said, my niece decided to trick the system and
she applied as a transgender student. And he said, my
son just applied us himself and had worked his tail off,
had the grades, had all of the qualifications to get in.
They denied him. They accepted her. And she said he
(17:46):
said she got in second semester. changed her pronouns back,
went into the studies that she wanted to, got out
of the women's studies that she said she was going
to go into, but she was in by that time
and there was nothing they could do. He was like,
when I realized we had to trick the system. And
I think, my gosh, we still are. Here I have
my friend who's writing a different essay because they're so,
(18:09):
they want the education of University of Michigan. They feel
exactly like you said, that their child has the foundation
they need And they should be allowed to get it
because of the in-state tuition. But we as conservatives are
having to trick the system. That's shocking.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's deeply unjust. And when I say that, you know,
we want Harvard, right? We want to take back Yale
as conservatives. We don't want to cede them to the left.
That includes sending strong conservatives to these schools. But it
also means making sure that there's a fair playing field.
So the Supreme Court obviously ruled that they can no
longer be implementing affirmative action. But schools like Harvard have
(18:48):
been proven to actually, they're doing it anyways. They're basically
ignoring the Supreme Court And so they're having like diversity
statements and they're taking those into account. So even though
you can't they won't they can't consider it if you
check that you're black or or or Native American and
admit you because of that, they will still take into
account your diversity statement. So it's it's still happening. And
(19:10):
what needs, I think, to to happen to reform these schools, because,
by the way, even the private ones aren't really private.
They're all receiving federal dollars. We need to use the
power of the federal purse to actually put pressure on
these schools. So there's no more federal funding if you
have fake fields of study like critical race theory or
fat studies or post-colonial studies. These aren't real fields of studies.
These are Marxist-inspired fields of study that the left has
(19:33):
put in and claimed that they're real and they're obviously not.
They're indoctrination machines. They're activist classes. They need to go.
There also needs to be diversity in student admissions and diversity,
viewpoint diversity, I mean, especially in the hiring process because
right now, you have 90 to like 99 percent left
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wing professors at these elite schools and they are purposely
blocking out conservative ones. The other thing is that these
schools have multibillion dollar endowments that are completely tax exempt.
But these are essentially for-profit institutions, so they should not
be getting these special privileges from the government if they're
going to be net negatives on our society. So there
needs to be punishments for these schools if they're going
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to behave badly. And that's what I think ultimately will
make some real change is money, because that's what they
care about.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, I mean, that's what we've said, whether it is
schools that are going after kids and transing kids behind parents'
backs and all the things that we see happening, whether
it is lower school or higher ed, it comes down
to money. When you hit someone in the pocketbook, that changes,
and they don't want to do it again. They don't
want to. They see their neighbor's school, have it done
(20:42):
to them, and it changes people. But I do think
there's also accountability for Congress to make sure that they
are modeling the values of the United States. And I
say that because you happen to know someone who's running.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So your husband is running for Congress in Wisconsin, Michael Alfonso.
Tell us a little bit about how he decided. Is
this your dad's old seat?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes, it is my dad's old seat. So my husband
and I were born and raised in Wisconsin. He and
I met in middle school in Wausau, Wisconsin, which is
like the largest city in the district. And so if
Michael and I are 26, if he's elected, He will
be the youngest member of Congress, but also he will
be the first member of Congress born this century, which
(21:29):
I think is really interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, very cool.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And, you know, Michael and I are very young, but
what we tell people a lot is, you know, we
have the values of, I think, traditional conservatives. And I
think as crazy as it might seem, there's actually a
large and growing portion of Gen Zers who feel that way.
We have been we've hit rock bottom. Michael and I
(21:53):
know people who have been tranced and regret it. You know,
Michael and I, we went through a school system that
taught us to be ashamed of our country since we
were in elementary school. We have been in critical race
theories ever. in college. We had the mask mandates. We
had the BLM riots, you know, as we were growing
up and coming into our adult years. So we've been
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intimately formed by radical leftism, I think impacted by it
in a very negative way. And so a lot of
times some people fall into it and they agree with
it and it warps their brain. It's like a mind virus.
But others, I think, go in the exact opposite direction.
That's why President Trump won young men by he swung
the Gen Z young male vote by over 20 points.
in 2024. That is because there are people in our
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generation who want something different. And I think Michael is
a great representation of that. And I think he'll be
a wonderful representation of the Gen Z conservative movement in Congress,
as well as, of course, our constituents in the 7th.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Okay. Well, as a Gen Z person, how do we
get them back? Because I appreciate what you're saying. And
I think there are some really conservative areas in this country.
And we do have conservative men in those areas. But man,
I mean, look at, well, look at Francesca Hong in Wisconsin.
(23:11):
Look at Abdul in Michigan. I mean, I'm watching and
even Will Lawrence in Michigan. I'm watching young people who
are just flocking to these guys, other socialists. but they're
dangerous socialists. I mean, this is some pretty radical stuff.
This is changing the country type of stuff. And I
look at who they're hanging around with, and I see
(23:32):
Hassan Paikra, who just over the weekend was singing the
We Are Charlie Kirk song and mocking the assassination of
a strong Christian man on the right, who was one
of the people that I felt was bringing young men
into the fold. How do we fight this? This is
pure evil.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It is periodical and it's actually terrifying. So they talk
about affordability and making life better for people. But actually,
if you dig a little deeper and you look at
any place that communism has been tried, it has been
very bloody. And Hassan Piker has said he wants the
streets to run red with capitalist blood. So that's a
terrifying statement. But a lot of young people aren't flocking
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to this ideology because they want to see the streets
run red with capitalist blood. they're actually just normal people
who can't afford their groceries and they're not going to
buy a house. And I think they feel like there's
no future. They have no hope. The average first-time homebuyer
in this country is 41 years old. It was 40
(24:37):
last year. Now it's 41. It keeps going up. That's
a big problem. That means the American dream feels and
in a lot of ways actually is unattainable for my generation.
The way that we combat this, the way that we
combat the Marxism is not by denying that the Marxists
are correct in identifying real problems and pain that people
(24:58):
are going through. It's to actually address them with right
wing populism. It's to deliver results for young people. So
that would mean banning private equity firms from buying up
single family homes. That means bringing up deportation numbers to
bring up the value of labor. That means tax breaks
for married couples with children, American energy independence, focusing on
our country and not forever wars and things that are
(25:19):
in other countries that are irrelevant to the people here
at home. So we can deliver for young people in
a way that is real and concrete. We just actually
have to do it. And unfortunately, what the left is offering,
they're identifying all the problems, but what they are offering
is equitable suffering for everyone. So we have to identify
that and then actually.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Fix the problems. It's been hard for us to educate.
I think it's... it kind of came on so fast.
It's challenging to go up and say, well, wait a minute,
what they're offering is not housing for you. It's not
the American dream. It's a commune where the government owns
your house and you all have to live together. I mean,
it's very hard to get people to understand that the
words they're saying do not match the actions that they
(26:00):
want to take. How do we do that as a
Republican Party? And it feels like my gosh, we're we
are practically into September now and we have not defined
to the other side in many of these races. And
I know people are getting scared.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, well, I mean, I think what's interesting is the
left wing base is radical in that way. So here
in Wisconsin, Francesca Hong was was presumably going to actually
win the Democrat nomination for governor. And she is a
radical candidate. DSA member. She also wants to get rid
of Thanksgiving and hates Culver's and white people. Wisconsin's like
an 85% white state.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
No one hates Culver's. That's insane.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
You can't hate Culver's, but Francesca does. She's a crazy person.
She almost won. And I think the only reason that
she didn't is because the Democrats realized in our state, oh,
I don't know if we can get away with this
in Wisconsin. But make no mistake, they want to get
away with it any way that they can. And they
have in places like New York and California. So it's
coming everywhere. They're just being a little more incremental about
(26:59):
it in the swing states. But ultimately, they want this everywhere.
And ultimately, this is a youth movement. So if you
look at Francesca Hong, where was she doing the best with?
I think it was Democrats under 40. she had like
in the 80s, she was winning them by. Now, there's
an older electorate that still has a lot of power
in this country, and they were able to offset her.
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But in a few years, this is going to have
a lot more power. Every year, it's going to have
more power. And so like I said, we have to
combat this with right-wing populism. This is left-wing populism. We
combat it with right-wing populism. We actually deliver for the
American people and genuinely put Americans first. I think Sometimes
we're conservatives. We say, oh, we're going to you know,
(27:43):
we love free trade and I love free trade, too.
I think that's awesome. But if the free trade is
not fair trade, which is something that President Trump talks
about all the time, then we're actually we actually are
hurting Americans here at home. Might be good for Wall Street,
might be good for big business, but it's not good
for the individuals. So we have to be considering the individuals,
the success and the prosperity of actual American, the actual
(28:04):
American working class people over everything else. And if we
do that, I think we can win them back.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And we need a message that's not just that other
side is bad. I mean, you're right about this. We
have got to come out and say, we see you.
We hear that you have these problems. And this is
the solution to those problems. And that's what I've felt like.
There are so few people like you that are out
there saying, this is what's happening. This is what we
can do to fix it. So I hope that you
(28:32):
will continue to go out there and talk to other people,
other politicians. I do think that on the Republican side,
We get caught up in what politics have always worked.
And this generation that those politics don't work on this generation.
You made two very interesting statements. People are the average
age is 41 for new house buying and people under
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40 are voting for these people. So there's I mean,
there's a correlation here where the American dream is. is
something we all have been taught our whole lives. That
I think is consistent. Everybody knows what the American dream is.
And if they can't get there, they're going to the
side that is saying, we'll give it to you. But
I feel like it's, I mean, it's like the story
(29:16):
of Hansel and Gretel. It's like, oh, it all looks great.
You can eat the entire house, but you're going to
end up getting boiled for dinner. So stop, stop allowing
these young people to be It's to be enticed by
the mirage of what the socialists are offering. But we
have to offer something else.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah. And you have to validate them when they say, hey,
things are really expensive. I can't afford my groceries or
I'm using Binance. now, pay later schemes to get make
ends meet at the end of the month. We have
to say, hey, that's really bad. I agree. People are struggling.
If you don't validate their feelings and you deny that
it's happening, you are begging the communists, the DSA members
(29:54):
to take them in and have them be lifetime voters.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I will say there is a faction of my generation
and definitely my mom's generation that is annoyed by the
idea of what you just said, like validating these feelings,
because there are a lot of people who are older
who go, we all lived through that, but it is different.
And it is hard to see unless we are really
(30:18):
actively talking about that. And that's why conversations like this
are so important, that we are able to say, look,
I mean, here you are, 26 years old, and you
have a daughter. You're a young woman who's married with
a daughter. Your husband is running for Congress. But you're
seeing the struggles that people are going through. And we
have to take a step back from our own world
(30:41):
where we say, well, you fought through it. You know,
college is more expensive now. And I get it. There
are expenses that we didn't have. There weren't even cell
phones when I graduated from college. You know, like there
are expenses that you guys have that we didn't have,
that we have to understand what the average family is
putting together today and what their fight is and how
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they go up against that fight and how we as
Republicans can say, we hear that and there are different options.
So I appreciate it, everything you're saying. And I said
that from the standpoint of I really do believe that
there are some of us who are unwilling to see it,
but we have got to take a step back and
look at the cost of everything. Before I let you go,
(31:26):
the Great American Road Trip, how do people watch it?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh, I'm so glad you brought that up because I
would have forgotten. Okay, so if you want to watch
the Great American Road Trip, it is on YouTube at
the U.S. Department of Transportation's official YouTube channel. You're going
to see all, I think there's seven episodes, little mini series.
There's clips everywhere. But if you want to actually watch
the show, it's on YouTube, the Department of Transportation's channel.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Well, we have to see where she goes to college. Yes,
you have to know.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It's a big mystery. So you'll find out.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I wanted to ask you, but then I was like, okay,
she made it clear. I'm not allowed to know. So
I have to watch.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's a tease.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Good.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Thank you so much, Evita Duffy. Thank you for coming
on today.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And thank you all for watching the Tudor Dixon podcast.
You can get it wherever you get your podcasts, the
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Rumble, or YouTube. Make sure you
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Have a blessed day.
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