March 6, 2026 • 32 mins
On this episode of The Tudor Dixon Podcast, Tudor Dixon sits down with Dave Asprey, the founder of Bulletproof Coffee and widely known as the father of the biohacking movement, to explore how everyday people can take control of their health, energy, and longevity.
Dave shares how he transformed his own life after once weighing nearly 300 pounds and suffering from chronic fatigue. Now, he’s on a mission to help others optimize their bodies and minds through biohacking—using science, nutrition, and environmental changes to improve energy, mental clarity, and long-term health.
Tudor and Dave discuss:
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What biohacking actually means and why it’s now a $36 billion industry
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Simple daily habits that can boost energy, focus, and brain health
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The truth about coffee, mold, and morning routines
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Why many people may be overmedicated instead of optimizing their biology
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Nutrition myths, including controversial takes on kale, protein, and diet trends
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The growing science behind longevity and cognitive performance
Dave also explains how listeners can learn more at the upcoming Beyond Biohacking Conference, where thousands gather to explore cutting-edge health technologies, longevity science, and performance optimization.
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If you’re curious about improving your health, fighting brain fog, boosting energy, or living longer, this conversation dives into the tools and ideas behind the rapidly growing world of biohacking.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcasts. So if you have
been listening to this podcast, you know that I have
been trying to find someone that will like, genuinely talk
to me about biohacking. Biohacking, I guess, is like somehow
you hack into your system and you make yourself super
healthy and your mind is clear. And I'm at that
(00:21):
point in my life where I do forget people's names
in my mind. I feel like it's not clear half
the time. I literally just happened before I started this
podcast today. So I've been looking for someone and we've
had a few people on and they have told me nothing.
So I have pulled out the longevity expert. He is
the founder of Bulletproof Coffee, the Bulletproof Diet, the creator
(00:44):
of the biohacking movement. And I'm so pleased to say
that we have Dave Asbury with us today. Thank you
so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You are so welcome. What an intro and people don't
usually realize. I used to wait three hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Pounds and I'm shocked by it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, and it's it doesn't make any sense. As a
former computer hacker, I would have never imagined I'd be
you know, intelp with my shirt off, like these are
not the same universe. I was like the fat guy
from Jurassic Park one, the computer hacker, Like I don't know.
But the idea of biohacking is that your body listens
(01:24):
to signals all the time that you don't pay attention to,
like a little puff of wind, or the color of
the light, or what time you ate, or temperature and
magnetism and all sorts of things that are there there,
But we don't pay attention to him because we're our
conscious brains are focused on what we're going to say.
So the definition is it's the art and science of
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changing the environment around you and inside of you. See,
you have control of your state. I means if you
want to be healthy, be healthy. You want to live
to one hundred and eighty or longer like me. Okay,
you want to get swollen, okay, do that. Whatever it is.
You know, you want to not deal with parami pause
the way your mom did. Let's do that. You don't
want to be a forty six inch waist the way
(02:06):
I was like, all of this, you get to pick
your state and then we're going to do this weird thing.
We're only going to do what works, and we're going
to measure it. So if you believe, like I did,
that being a vegan is going to make me lose
weight and be healthy, well you look at the data.
I did lose weight, and I shattered three teeth and
gave myself out of immune conditions. Like everyone else he
goes on the vegan diet, you don't get healthier, you
get sicker. So, like, what would happen if we just
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did what worked? That's all I want.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I heard you talking about women eating salads and you
were like, you have a woman eat a steak and
suddenly she's not cold all the time. And I'm like,
oh my gosh, I'm cold all the time. And I
was like, how do I even know? Because we are
not It is not natural. There's not a lot of
information out there saying this is what you should eat,
because obviously people are marketing what they want us to eat.
(02:53):
And when I hear you talk, I'm like, this sounds amazing,
But I don't know how to feel, to connect with
my body in that way and know what that means.
Why I can't think of somebody's name when I see
them at the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, the first thing to understand is you have control.
If it's just random or it's just getting old, then
you're screwed. There's no cads, right.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But that's I had come to accept that until I
started looking at what you were saying and I'm like, oh,
my gosh, wait, do I actually have a choice in this?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh? You have a big choice. And that's why biohacking
is now a thirty six billion dollar industry. Started with
a blog post and the biohacking conferences. We're now in
our thirteenth year or five thousand people and Steve Aoki
is playing at the Biohacking Conference. And it started with
one hundred people in a bar in San Francisco to
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meet like, hey, how can we take over our biology?
And so people can come and join in Austin. It's
Biohackingconference dot com and it's it's amazing. So you can
come and and you can look at this. But the
first thing you got to pick a goal, like is
do you want to fix your brain fog first or
your energy first?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So I don't have to pick one permanently, I can
get both. I just have to start someplace.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You got to start at someplace. And this is the problem.
What does healthy even mean everyone listens to It means
a whole bunch of different things to different people. So
what I finally started doing with my AI longevity clinics
around the country, it's called Upgrade Labs. We have a
survey that people take and we use AI to score it,
because it's like, Okay, do you want to live a
(04:33):
long time or do you want to look really good? Like? Well,
actually I want both, Like which one's important? We're going
to help you find what's the most important thing for
you right now and then what is the easiest way
to get there?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And so I find I'm interested in this because I
think that it's not just that we are eating the
wrong things. I believe that we have been tricked into
believing that there's a magic pill for everything, and that
we whether it's that we're sad, or that were overweight,
or are we have high cholesterol's, we are very over medicated.
(05:10):
And the thing that I am interested when it comes
to biohacking is that it seems like you're not pushing
a lot of medication.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I hate to tell you any means necessary. I don't
care if we need to glue computers to your head.
I'm actually at my company forty years is then where
we do that because it's faster than meditating. I don't
care if we need to learn a meditation technique from
the thirteenth century written in Sanskrit, and I've done that too, right,
it's all on the table. I just want you to
(05:39):
get results that are safe and effective. And the problem
is big pharma lies. They lie repeatedly, and they've been
fined something like one hundred billion dollars over the years
for just lying. They knew it didn't work, they knew
it had side effects, and they put it out there anyway.
And it's much bigger than what big tobacco did when
(06:01):
the doctor are smoking Marlboroughs what now. So that's why
we don't trust big pharmat But I will tell you
there's at least ten pharmaceuticals that can do things for
longevity right now that no herbal and no lifestyle thing
can do right. So I'm not opposed to them. I
just want truth, and if I don't have good science,
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I'm going to shy away from the pharmaceuticals. If I
can do it naturally and some natural compounds aren't safe either,
Like kale gross, That stuff is bad for you.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
It is what are you talking about? I thought we
were supposed to eat kale all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh, that's only a form of self loathing.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Is thank goodness, sex, that's the best news I've heard.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Kale is high in a compound called oxalate that causes
seventy percent of kidney stones. And it's also the number
one plant on the planet for soaking up a toxic
metal called thallium that is damaging to your nervous system.
It's a garbage plant for cleaning up toxic soil. And
it's nice to put around the salad to make it
look bigger, like pizza Hut used to do way back
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in the day. Otherwise, kale is not food. When I
ran a regenerative farm, my pigs wouldn't even eat the
kale unless there was no other food. Like, oh my gosh,
what no, okaygola is good. Kale's bad. But no one
tells you that stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But that is so hard. See, this is the part
where the average person is like, how do I how
do I find this out? And so you have the
Biohacking conference, which is in Austin, when is that?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
That is May twenty seventh through twenty ninth.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So that's coming up. So this is good. If you're listening,
then you can you can go there and you can
find out how to do this. But if you are
just starting out, when you I mean, I think a
lot of people feel like they're just drained, they're tired,
they're exhausted. The majority of moms that I talked to
would say, I just don't have the energy. And we
(07:51):
chalk it up to we don't have the energy because
we're up all night with kids and we're you know,
you work all day and you come home and you're
managing other people's meals and you're eating crap as you
get people to bed and out the door in the mornings,
and we're just exhausted. But how do we start Where
do we start with that? How do we know where
what the exhaustion is coming from?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well, there's your first goal. Instead of I want to
be healthy, which doesn't mean thing, say I want my
energy back right okay? And do you want your energy
back in six months or do you want a back
right now?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I want it back now, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Great, So let's start with some short term strategies, which
is going to give you your energy and then you
put the energy into things that make it long term sustainable. Right,
So here's what you can do tomorrow. If you're waking
up feeling tired, you wake up and instead of drinking
whatever you drink in the morning, you drink a Do
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you to have a teaspoon and a teaspoon of sea
salt or some electrolytes that contain a meaningful amount of
sodium and drink a big glass of water with that
in it. And then you drink some coffee and may
I plug danger coffee which is mold free with a
ton of therapeutic trace minerals in it, but have some
really good coffee without mold and then have that and
(09:11):
then have some creating.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Is just we just had somebody on who was talking
about mold being in our coffee, and now it's like
one of those things where if you hear it three
times you have to take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Because I was.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Like, this is not a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'm the guy who taught the world about molding coffee.
My last company, Bulletproof, is probably in your store. I
have nothing to do a bulletproof anymore. My latest standards,
like I invented mold free coffee as a category, So yeah,
a dangerou coffee dot com and mold is in coffee,
and I published thirty six studies on it in my book.
And still, you know, Joe Rogan's like, I think Davids
(09:45):
misleading because he had an investment in a competing company.
So you're like, all right, here's the deal. I most
governments in the world have mold standards for coffee, but
the US doesn't. And so the president of the Coffee
associated I have them one camera saying this. He goes, oh,
I was in Japan. They rejected a thousand shipping containers
of beans. He goes, what would you do with them? Oh? Yeah,
(10:07):
we send them to the US, where it's legal. So
if you're drinking crap coffee maybe with a big green
label in the morning, and then an hour or two
later you feel jittery and tired, you want more sugar
in his neck, do just not the coffee. It's the
mold in the coffee dot com. Or you could skip
some coffee, but then you'll have a bad morning. So
let's not do it.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, right, I cannot do that is not an option.
So I did actually just order mold free coffee? And
I I and I was not a believer. I'm like,
how much different could it be? I mean, it even
tastes different.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's like, I'll send you some danger coffee because there's
a lot of people who try to make mold free coffee.
And we could get tugget science for a while. But truly,
testing for mold is harder than you think because of
something called masking. But getting the flavor down is another thing.
But you feel different, right, totally?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Oh my gosh, completely, it's like night and day. Let's
take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the
Tutor Dixon Podcast. So I also saw something where you
said a good way too, and maybe I'm maybe I'm
getting this wrong. A good way to get your energy
up is to go outside in the morning, and you
(11:20):
were I thought it was like twenty minutes, and I thought,
how could I possibly spend twenty minutes outside in the morning?
But am I wrong about that? Are you telling us
to go outside?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You have to go outside, you have to wear a bikini,
even if it's snowing in Michigan. If you're not doing
it right, you're doing it wrong. No, you don't have
to do that. So here's a gill you will benefit
from twenty minutes in the morning. Right, what are you
to brush your teeth outside while your teeth like, No,
it doesn't work for most people, but five minutes can
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work because there's probably something that takes five minutes that
you could do while you're outside and take off your
sunglasses while you do it. And doing that, if you
just say, have that salty water, which is electrolytes to
get energy in the morning, have your Danger coffee and
then take ten grams of creating and you can drink
that coffee while you're outside with the creating in it,
because it'll work better.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
What does that do?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Creatine causes your brain to make more energy, but when
you put it in the Danger coffee, it dissolves in
a certain way so that it goes into the brain
better than if you just mix it into a smoothie.
So creating is incredibly potent for making more electricity. Because
if you're tired all the time, it would make sense
that it's like the battery in your phone has blow
twenty percent, so everything slows down. That's just you. So
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creating electrolytes Danger coffee in the morning and then get
your five minutes of sunlight with no contacts, no sunglasses,
and that's a signal to your body that it's time
to wake up. And if you do those things tomorrow morning,
it'll be amazing, like a completely different day. You won't
want sugar in the danger coffee because it just doesn't
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need it. Your body knows raving the sugar in the
coffee because the coffee's bad.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
So why know sunglasses. I've actually heard something about like
your eye, your eyeballs actually need sunlight.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's true, So about jeez. Twelve years ago now, I
started a company called True Dark that makes circadian glasses
that filter out light to tell your body what time
it is. So five percent of the cells in your
eyes they're not seeing what you see. They're only measuring
the color and brightness of the light, so they can
tell your brain, hey, is it time to go to
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sleep or time to do some stuff. So if they
never see bright light in the morning, they it's like,
I guess it's still time to sleep. We don't really
know what's going on. So you get less energy. So
that bright light in the morning aligns the timing signal.
So now all of your body is like, hey, let's
make energy now. And that also, strangely means you'll sleep
better at night. And if you have kids, do it
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with your kids to make them go outside for five
minutes and they'll sleep better. And if your kids sleep better,
you sleep better. I've got two teens, we know what
that's like.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes, yes, I have teenagers too, and they're there is
that is a whole nother realm of I was actually
talking to somebody about this this morning. I'm like people
who have their kids when they are toward their fifties.
I don't know how last night my dog was and
this never happens, but I had this tiny dog and
he was up barking all night, and I thought if
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they were up all night still, I could not handle it.
My body cannot recover like it used to.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's totally a lie.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Tor that does not, but I'm obviously causing this.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I recover like it used to, But it can and
it does. And I'm promising if I can do this
as a three hundred pounds computer hacker with chronic fatigue
syndrome in my twenties, Seriously, you can have more energy
next year than you did when you were thirty.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So that is actually the only reason I believe you,
because I would not believe you if you look like
this your whole life. I just want to be clear.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Because answers who are thirty years old, who've never been
fat telling people they can eat a Snicker's bar and
I cook, I would choke them if they were here,
except I'm full a piece, so I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I give them kille But you look, you look very
naturally healthy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's insane. Like literally, if anyone on earth has no
right to look like this, it's me and I And
sometimes I just I look at the mirror and I'm like,
what is up? All right, I'm gonna do the duchey
thing you're not supposed to do on on this. But
look at my apps, okay, And I just got back
from the gym. But like I saw stretch marks. You
can see stretch marks. But like I have veins, Like,
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how can I be thin?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Do you only work out twenty minutes a week? This? Okay,
I do not. I can't.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
The ceo that that big podcast, Stephen, interviewed me, and
he wouldn't publish interviews. He didn't think it was possible.
I also think his largest sponsor was Vegan. That might
have been it, but.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Okay, So I am super impressed because I do feel
like there is a point when you're in that perimenopause
menopause stage where things are changing inside of you and
there is not a guideline. I mean, I've talked about
this for many different parts of a woman's life, especially
you go through pregnancy. There's a getting back on track
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that you need to do, but there's no real guide,
there's no markers, there's no understanding of that. And then
I hear people talk about peptides and oxalate free diets
and all of these things, but I have no idea
what it means. I want to know. That's why I'm
talking to you.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You know, I don't think you really want to know.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I do want to know. I do. Are you thinking
that I'm not committed? I am not committed. I'm trying
to figure out how to be committed.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You want to know what to do to get results.
You actually don't want to know what an oxalate is?
Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't know. Well now I'm freaked out. I feel
like you're going to tell me it's something horrible.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
No, I'll tell you what an oxalate is. But here's
the thing. We're in a unique time in history. So
have you to go back twenty years or even ten years,
You're gonna have to hire me, and people do. I
have a longevity like advanced life extension program for VIPs,
and people spend six figures a year to work with
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me and a team on managing all of their stuff.
And that's called unlimited.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So only rich people can do this?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, no, that's this is well, this is a very
very deep program and a lot of people say it's
for rich people. However, right now, thank you AI. You
can do almost all of this by yourself, and you
can literally go to your favorite AI. By the way,
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don't use chat GPT because number one doesn't work very well.
Number two it's a narcissist. Number three it's now spying
for the government. So go to Claude because it's better. Okay,
So go to Claude and say, hey, what would Dave
Asprey do? You can literally ask it that. And Claude
stole every author's books on the planet, including downloading some
of the illegally, and just signed a legal settlement with
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with like hundreds of thousands of authors doing it. So
all my books are in there, and you could go
to my websites and I have all my books in
all of my talks and everything else. But it doesn't
pick wine right. So go out there and say, my
goal is to do this. Use Dave Aspery's biohacking techniques
and tell me what's most likely to work for my biology.
Here's what I know. And now you don't have to
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know what an oxalate is. You can go to Dave
Asprey dot com. I have a lowox challenge and I'll
teach you how to avoid them in what they are.
But here's the thing that's faster and faster to just
know what to do and then you learn what you want.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
But now I don't really want to know what they are.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Okay, here's what they are. Oxalates are plant defense compounds.
It turns out plants hate it when you eat them
and when you eat their babies. It makes sense because
then they wouldn't reproduce. So how do they stop us.
They can't run away because they have roots, so they
make toxins where if you eat too many of the plant,
it'll poison you and poison your babies. So then some
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of you will die and then they can live. This
is the balance of nature. It's called an ecosystem. Right.
This is a very common plant toxin, very high in spinach,
which is one of the worst, in kale, and sadly
potatoes and potatoes, and the worst of all whole grains.
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Whole wheat has a ton of it. White flour has
almost none of it. That's why they make white flour.
Brown rice not so good. White rice very low and toxic.
This is why I throw out all of history. We've
thrown away part of the food because it's not very
edible unless there's a famine. And when you eat this,
it goes into your body. It finds calcium and it
forms razor sharp microscopic calcium crystals that are tied to
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gout seventy percent of kidney stones, arthritis, brain dysfunction, Alzheimer's autism,
skin problems. So pretty much most nuts, but not all
most seeds, but not all in all grains unless you
throw away the outside. If you're eating those along with
a bunch of these superfoods that are mostly high in it,
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you're getting five times does that your body can handle
every day, And it's affecting fertility, and that muscle pain
you wake up with, and the brain fog and the
little stize that you get in your eyes. All these
things can be explained by razor sharp calcium crystals. So
I'm not saying that this is a cause of everything.
I'm just saying if you don't know about it, and
you're having a big old spinach, kale almond milk almonds
(20:19):
are particularly bad smoothie every morning, thinking you're healthy, and
then you walk around going, why does my skin look
like crap? And my joints hurt? Oh, and I get
UTI's all the time from because something's cutting by urethra.
Maybe you should step away from the freaking vegan food
and eat the way your great great great grandmother did
when she wanted to be fertile. She ate steak and eggs.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But she liked potatoes too. No potatoes.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
If you have some potatoes and you're eating enough steak
and eggs, you'll be fine. But if you're trying to
eat potatoes and almonds and like this long list of
these weird California superfoods that no one ate until the
California Farmers Association started marketing this in the seventies grape nuts.
I wouldn't feed that to my chickens. Literally I have.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I have in the last probably twenty years, felt like
if I was drinking something that was a horrible color
and didn't taste great, that it was healthy.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yep. I've been down that path too, and like, I
just measure results, and I have taught millions of people,
have nine best selling books, everything from meditation down to
what to eat in longevity and brain function because I
had all the problems myself I had.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But does this mean like really weird eating like raw things,
or you have to eat like or you can't have butter,
or you can't have flavor, just.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Raw liver, nothing else. Gross. No, it's got to I
have a cookbook. I'm a michelinsar chef who works for
forty years as in I'm into food. But here's the thing.
You eat your animal based proteins first, because you need
enough protein. And a lot of women who are tired
they're not eating enough animal protein and they're not eating
enough calories. And if you want to be tired all
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the time, calories your energy. So if you're eating salads,
a huge number of women they eat more calories and
suddenly they lose weight and like, how is that possible?
It's because now your body feels safe enough to put
on muscle. A friend who was a vegetarian and kind
of semi vegan finally just threw up her hands and said, fine,
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I'll eat steak. And so she started eating oh, one
gram of animal protein per pound of body weight, the
way I recommend. Within six weeks, she lost six pounds
of fat and gain six pounds of muscle without changing
the workout, just from getting enough calories and just from
getting enough protein. So women in particular need to eat steak.
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And if you're worried about this, if you're on a
day and you're picking at some dumb little salad with
spinach in your teeth. For guys, a woman eating a
ribbi is really sexy, and a woman eating salad gross.
We don't even want this. We don't eat the salad either, So.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Just gosh, So salad does a dating turn off?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Are you kidding? Gross?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next
on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So I will tell you
a story that one time. This is not a dating story,
but I was in so I used to work in manufacturing,
and it's like totally a dude's world, right. So there
was this one guy and he was probably thirty years
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older than me, and we went to dinner with a
group of people and I ordered the steak, but it
came as like two and and they were I feel
like they were stuff with something. They were too big
for me to eat, so I ate one and then
and then I was traveling, so it was like, should
I take it. That's weird because I'm going back to hotel,
but I felt like I had to, so then I did,
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and the guy just reamed me in front of all
of these other men. He was like, this is why
you don't take a woman to dinner because she can't
finish a steak. How embarrassing that she can't finish a steak.
So we were never going to date. But that was
not a turn on to him that I ordered.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
He was probably a guy though, who looked like you
eat twelve stacks he could. Yeah, yes, So here's the deal.
There are always douchebags. There are.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That's that is a fact, no matter where you are
or how well you eat.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, and you don't have to order the one pound steak.
But It is just give yourself permission to eat enough
protein protein first, and then have some veggies if you
feel called, and then after that have some white rice
is the best carbon, or some potatoes if you're not
loading up with these other higher toxin superfoods all the time,
and be happy. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
What about salt? Am I allowed to salt my food?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Is salt your food as much as your body wants,
and it is life changing. And people get really offended
at this go but salt high blood pressure. That science
is mostly based on a survey where they ask forty
thousand people how much salt do you think you had
in the last couple of days, and they just made
up a number. So the president of the High blood
(24:57):
Pressure Society, there's a medical doctor with you experienced it.
I'm just going to measure sodium in three thousand people
for three years, and he's trying to prove salt raises
high blood pressure. Into the study. He says, this is
Michael Alderman's name. He says, if you want to live longer,
eat more salt. Salt allows electrons electricity to move around
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inside the body. And if you're tired right now, have
some salt and water have some creating, have some danger coffee,
and then have a steak or some animal protein, and
your entire day will change. You won't yell at your kids,
you won't get brain fog, you won't have the cravings,
you won't be hypoglybitchy, because the protein just completely makes
that work and life is better, Like it's actually better.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So I did see that you said that this would
make you less likely to have those moments where you
yell at your kids. And I know people will say
I never yell at my kids, but you know that
moment where they do something and you go, why did
I yell about that?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It's not because you're a bad person. It's because you
didn't have enough energy in your brain to regulate your response.
You couldn't catch it because your brain was like on
a dimmer switch. So no one's mean to their spouse,
no one's mean to their kids on purpose, unless you're
maybe a narcissist. But why are you doing it? Because
(26:15):
you couldn't help yourself because you were low on energy.
And I measure brain waves on executives and high performers.
People come and spend five days upgrading their brain. At
forty years, a sen I'm actually at our facility right
now in Austin, and I have measured this for more
than a decade. And the most powerful people on earth.
(26:37):
When we act like jerks, it's because we couldn't help ourselves.
And when you up the energy and you up the
level of presence or training or awareness, then you don't
yell at your kids very much. But I've yelled at
my kids, right, I think I have great kids. Right,
I apologize when I was done yelling at some point afterwards. Right, So,
then there's so fast You're human, and no human is
(26:58):
a full energy all the time. But when full energy,
you won't yell your kids.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Okay. So before I let you go, I have to
ask you about nicotine because I cannot wrap my mind
around this. Our whole lives, we've been told nicotine is
so bad. And then I see you saying you need
you should have a little nicotine, and I'm like, what
is that? What does that mean? Like you go out
and have a smoke in the morning, what is this?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Okay? I have never smoked. I have never advocated for
smoking or even tobacco. There's a large body of evidence
that a small amount of pharmaceutical nicotine not smoking has
health benefits. And I'll tell you tomorrow morning. If you're
really having brain fog, do all this stuff I just
(27:39):
said and add two or three milligrams of nicotine oral nicotine.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
They have little pouches, they have a spray, they have gum,
they have lozenges, and you could even put a patch
on if you wanted to. We're talking a cigarette might
have twenty milligrams. We're talking ten percent of a cigarettes
worth without ever smoke.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm not going to be walking around with a dip
cup and like my lips sticking out.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
No, no, I mean if you're into that, But that's
the tobacco cancer risk. So this low dose nicotine neuroprotective.
It actually is the most studied cognitive enhancing natural compound
along with caffeine. And really the reduction of Alzheimer's and
Parkinson's comes from Vanderbilt University. In nineteen eighty six. I
(28:27):
interviewed the researcher on my show on the Human Upgrade,
and he's like, yeah, we notice smokers get cancer, but
they don't get Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. There must be something
good in there. It turns out. The good is the nicotine,
the bad is the smoke. And I'm not saying you
need to pound nicotine all day long, but there's a
very strong case, especially starting around age forty, for doing
(28:48):
up to five milligrams of nicotine a day, and a
lot of those little little zins and things like that
are more than five milligrams, so you'd use it for
a brief period of time, or buy the lowest dose
and use it before a big meeting. Interesting, and the
focus is insane. I started on one milligram a day
fifteen years ago and been talking about it ever since,
(29:09):
including for neuroprotection, because if you want to live to
you know, hundreds of years, you might want a working brain,
and low dos nicotine is part of it.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But do you get addicted to that?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
At five milligrams a day, the addiction is about the
same as coffee. It goes away in three days. It's
not a big deal. If you go above five milligrams
a day on a regular basis, you become addicted and
you need to tapeer it down. But it's not like
smoking addiction. And by the way, they beating is terrible.
Don't fade, don't smoke Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So there are other ways to get it and that
will help, is it? Like I mean, it's a stimulant.
So so I know so many people who are taking
adderall and I just think that is so dangerous because
I've seen a lot of people become really addicted to that.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Adderall is bad news. So instead of adderall, there's a
drug that was invented for narcollepsy called modafanol, and I've
been on AB nightline. They call it the limitless drug,
and I mean only guys saying, yeah, I took that
to get through business school, and I did have a
bag on my head because I'm happy to talk about
what I do. So I've been taking the lowest dose
of that. It's not even a stimulant, it's a cognitive
(30:14):
enhancing drug for about twenty five years. So yeah, you
can take things that are better than aderall that make
your brain work incredibly well. Nicotine's one of them. Modafnols
a prescription drug. That's another danger. Coffee is a third thing.
These are Mother Nature's original neotropics, the coffee and the nicotine.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Anyway, so interesting, Okay, So if people want to learn more,
they can go to this conference it's the Beyond Biohacking Conference.
This is you said? It's May twenty seventh through the twenty.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Ninth, correct in Austin, Texas, and just go to Biohackingconference
dot com.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And I've heard there's a code that they can use
to get four hundred dollars off if they if they
use the code tutor four hundred. Is that true?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
That is true? Code tutor four hundred to get a discount.
And you will meet people people who are totally curious,
totally interested, and just willing to say I want to
be more than healthy. I want to do something beyond.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
So is it are they going there and they're listening
to lectures or is this interactive? Just give us a
little idea of what they'll see.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
You're interactive. So there's a huge community there, like everyone
is friendly. Steve Aoki is playing for the party. And
it's actually a themed party. This year it's Spirit Animal.
Last year was eighties, right, so people, you get thousands
of people showed up for like a major DJ and
we're just having fun. The inventors for hundreds of biohacking
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devices and supplements, they're there. They're giving talks, but they're
also there, so it's like an adult playground. You get
to go in and like try the thing for your brain,
try the thing all the technology for biohacking for longevity.
So if you want to be smarter, faster, a live longer,
it's private place to be.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And we'll find truly mold free coffee there.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
There will be danger coffee on an unlimited basis for you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Amazing. All right, So you're you're convincing me I because
I really I'm telling you. I'm not kidding when I
say I've been trying to figure out exactly what this
is and it does seem hard. So now I'm going
to check out AI and I'm going to learn everything
about you. So I'll be somewhat of a stalker, but
you won't know because you don't know what I'm doing
on AI, which is the great thing I can like
(32:20):
privately stalk you.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Definitely also good to Instagram, Dave dot Asbury. I post
a lot about just the ladys.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yes, this is where I watched a lot of your videos.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Cool, awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Thank you so much, Dave Asbury. It's been great talking
to you and I am so impressed with what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh thanks tutor Seeah.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
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the podcast and right now go have a blessed day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcasts. So if you have
been listening to this podcast, you know that I have
been trying to find someone that will like, genuinely talk
to me about biohacking. Biohacking, I guess, is like somehow
you hack into your system and you make yourself super
healthy and your mind is clear. And I'm at that
(00:21):
point in my life where I do forget people's names
in my mind. I feel like it's not clear half
the time. I literally just happened before I started this
podcast today. So I've been looking for someone and we've
had a few people on and they have told me nothing.
So I have pulled out the longevity expert. He is
the founder of Bulletproof Coffee, the Bulletproof Diet, the creator
(00:44):
of the biohacking movement. And I'm so pleased to say
that we have Dave Asbury with us today. Thank you
so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You are so welcome. What an intro and people don't
usually realize. I used to wait three hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Pounds and I'm shocked by it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, and it's it doesn't make any sense. As a
former computer hacker, I would have never imagined I'd be
you know, intelp with my shirt off, like these are
not the same universe. I was like the fat guy
from Jurassic Park one, the computer hacker, Like I don't know.
But the idea of biohacking is that your body listens
(01:24):
to signals all the time that you don't pay attention to,
like a little puff of wind, or the color of
the light, or what time you ate, or temperature and
magnetism and all sorts of things that are there there,
But we don't pay attention to him because we're our
conscious brains are focused on what we're going to say.
So the definition is it's the art and science of
(01:45):
changing the environment around you and inside of you. See,
you have control of your state. I means if you
want to be healthy, be healthy. You want to live
to one hundred and eighty or longer like me. Okay,
you want to get swollen, okay, do that. Whatever it is.
You know, you want to not deal with parami pause
the way your mom did. Let's do that. You don't
want to be a forty six inch waist the way
(02:06):
I was like, all of this, you get to pick
your state and then we're going to do this weird thing.
We're only going to do what works, and we're going
to measure it. So if you believe, like I did,
that being a vegan is going to make me lose
weight and be healthy, well you look at the data.
I did lose weight, and I shattered three teeth and
gave myself out of immune conditions. Like everyone else he
goes on the vegan diet, you don't get healthier, you
get sicker. So, like, what would happen if we just
(02:29):
did what worked? That's all I want.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I heard you talking about women eating salads and you
were like, you have a woman eat a steak and
suddenly she's not cold all the time. And I'm like,
oh my gosh, I'm cold all the time. And I
was like, how do I even know? Because we are
not It is not natural. There's not a lot of
information out there saying this is what you should eat,
because obviously people are marketing what they want us to eat.
(02:53):
And when I hear you talk, I'm like, this sounds amazing,
But I don't know how to feel, to connect with
my body in that way and know what that means.
Why I can't think of somebody's name when I see
them at the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, the first thing to understand is you have control.
If it's just random or it's just getting old, then
you're screwed. There's no cads, right.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But that's I had come to accept that until I
started looking at what you were saying and I'm like, oh,
my gosh, wait, do I actually have a choice in this?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh? You have a big choice. And that's why biohacking
is now a thirty six billion dollar industry. Started with
a blog post and the biohacking conferences. We're now in
our thirteenth year or five thousand people and Steve Aoki
is playing at the Biohacking Conference. And it started with
one hundred people in a bar in San Francisco to
(03:49):
meet like, hey, how can we take over our biology?
And so people can come and join in Austin. It's
Biohackingconference dot com and it's it's amazing. So you can
come and and you can look at this. But the
first thing you got to pick a goal, like is
do you want to fix your brain fog first or
your energy first?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So I don't have to pick one permanently, I can
get both. I just have to start someplace.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You got to start at someplace. And this is the problem.
What does healthy even mean everyone listens to It means
a whole bunch of different things to different people. So
what I finally started doing with my AI longevity clinics
around the country, it's called Upgrade Labs. We have a
survey that people take and we use AI to score it,
because it's like, Okay, do you want to live a
(04:33):
long time or do you want to look really good? Like? Well,
actually I want both, Like which one's important? We're going
to help you find what's the most important thing for
you right now and then what is the easiest way
to get there?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And so I find I'm interested in this because I
think that it's not just that we are eating the
wrong things. I believe that we have been tricked into
believing that there's a magic pill for everything, and that
we whether it's that we're sad, or that were overweight,
or are we have high cholesterol's, we are very over medicated.
(05:10):
And the thing that I am interested when it comes
to biohacking is that it seems like you're not pushing
a lot of medication.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I hate to tell you any means necessary. I don't
care if we need to glue computers to your head.
I'm actually at my company forty years is then where
we do that because it's faster than meditating. I don't
care if we need to learn a meditation technique from
the thirteenth century written in Sanskrit, and I've done that too, right,
it's all on the table. I just want you to
(05:39):
get results that are safe and effective. And the problem
is big pharma lies. They lie repeatedly, and they've been
fined something like one hundred billion dollars over the years
for just lying. They knew it didn't work, they knew
it had side effects, and they put it out there anyway.
And it's much bigger than what big tobacco did when
(06:01):
the doctor are smoking Marlboroughs what now. So that's why
we don't trust big pharmat But I will tell you
there's at least ten pharmaceuticals that can do things for
longevity right now that no herbal and no lifestyle thing
can do right. So I'm not opposed to them. I
just want truth, and if I don't have good science,
(06:22):
I'm going to shy away from the pharmaceuticals. If I
can do it naturally and some natural compounds aren't safe either,
Like kale gross, That stuff is bad for you.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
It is what are you talking about? I thought we
were supposed to eat kale all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh, that's only a form of self loathing.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Is thank goodness, sex, that's the best news I've heard.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Kale is high in a compound called oxalate that causes
seventy percent of kidney stones. And it's also the number
one plant on the planet for soaking up a toxic
metal called thallium that is damaging to your nervous system.
It's a garbage plant for cleaning up toxic soil. And
it's nice to put around the salad to make it
look bigger, like pizza Hut used to do way back
(07:04):
in the day. Otherwise, kale is not food. When I
ran a regenerative farm, my pigs wouldn't even eat the
kale unless there was no other food. Like, oh my gosh,
what no, okaygola is good. Kale's bad. But no one
tells you that stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But that is so hard. See, this is the part
where the average person is like, how do I how
do I find this out? And so you have the
Biohacking conference, which is in Austin, when is that?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
That is May twenty seventh through twenty ninth.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So that's coming up. So this is good. If you're listening,
then you can you can go there and you can
find out how to do this. But if you are
just starting out, when you I mean, I think a
lot of people feel like they're just drained, they're tired,
they're exhausted. The majority of moms that I talked to
would say, I just don't have the energy. And we
(07:51):
chalk it up to we don't have the energy because
we're up all night with kids and we're you know,
you work all day and you come home and you're
managing other people's meals and you're eating crap as you
get people to bed and out the door in the mornings,
and we're just exhausted. But how do we start Where
do we start with that? How do we know where
what the exhaustion is coming from?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well, there's your first goal. Instead of I want to
be healthy, which doesn't mean thing, say I want my
energy back right okay? And do you want your energy
back in six months or do you want a back
right now?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I want it back now, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Great, So let's start with some short term strategies, which
is going to give you your energy and then you
put the energy into things that make it long term sustainable. Right,
So here's what you can do tomorrow. If you're waking
up feeling tired, you wake up and instead of drinking
whatever you drink in the morning, you drink a Do
(08:47):
you to have a teaspoon and a teaspoon of sea
salt or some electrolytes that contain a meaningful amount of
sodium and drink a big glass of water with that
in it. And then you drink some coffee and may
I plug danger coffee which is mold free with a
ton of therapeutic trace minerals in it, but have some
really good coffee without mold and then have that and
(09:11):
then have some creating.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Is just we just had somebody on who was talking
about mold being in our coffee, and now it's like
one of those things where if you hear it three
times you have to take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Because I was.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Like, this is not a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'm the guy who taught the world about molding coffee.
My last company, Bulletproof, is probably in your store. I
have nothing to do a bulletproof anymore. My latest standards,
like I invented mold free coffee as a category, So yeah,
a dangerou coffee dot com and mold is in coffee,
and I published thirty six studies on it in my book.
And still, you know, Joe Rogan's like, I think Davids
(09:45):
misleading because he had an investment in a competing company.
So you're like, all right, here's the deal. I most
governments in the world have mold standards for coffee, but
the US doesn't. And so the president of the Coffee
associated I have them one camera saying this. He goes, oh,
I was in Japan. They rejected a thousand shipping containers
of beans. He goes, what would you do with them? Oh? Yeah,
(10:07):
we send them to the US, where it's legal. So
if you're drinking crap coffee maybe with a big green
label in the morning, and then an hour or two
later you feel jittery and tired, you want more sugar
in his neck, do just not the coffee. It's the
mold in the coffee dot com. Or you could skip
some coffee, but then you'll have a bad morning. So
let's not do it.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, right, I cannot do that is not an option.
So I did actually just order mold free coffee? And
I I and I was not a believer. I'm like,
how much different could it be? I mean, it even
tastes different.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's like, I'll send you some danger coffee because there's
a lot of people who try to make mold free coffee.
And we could get tugget science for a while. But truly,
testing for mold is harder than you think because of
something called masking. But getting the flavor down is another thing.
But you feel different, right, totally?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Oh my gosh, completely, it's like night and day. Let's
take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the
Tutor Dixon Podcast. So I also saw something where you
said a good way too, and maybe I'm maybe I'm
getting this wrong. A good way to get your energy
up is to go outside in the morning, and you
(11:20):
were I thought it was like twenty minutes, and I thought,
how could I possibly spend twenty minutes outside in the morning?
But am I wrong about that? Are you telling us
to go outside?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You have to go outside, you have to wear a bikini,
even if it's snowing in Michigan. If you're not doing
it right, you're doing it wrong. No, you don't have
to do that. So here's a gill you will benefit
from twenty minutes in the morning. Right, what are you
to brush your teeth outside while your teeth like, No,
it doesn't work for most people, but five minutes can
(11:51):
work because there's probably something that takes five minutes that
you could do while you're outside and take off your
sunglasses while you do it. And doing that, if you
just say, have that salty water, which is electrolytes to
get energy in the morning, have your Danger coffee and
then take ten grams of creating and you can drink
that coffee while you're outside with the creating in it,
because it'll work better.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
What does that do?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Creatine causes your brain to make more energy, but when
you put it in the Danger coffee, it dissolves in
a certain way so that it goes into the brain
better than if you just mix it into a smoothie.
So creating is incredibly potent for making more electricity. Because
if you're tired all the time, it would make sense
that it's like the battery in your phone has blow
twenty percent, so everything slows down. That's just you. So
(12:37):
creating electrolytes Danger coffee in the morning and then get
your five minutes of sunlight with no contacts, no sunglasses,
and that's a signal to your body that it's time
to wake up. And if you do those things tomorrow morning,
it'll be amazing, like a completely different day. You won't
want sugar in the danger coffee because it just doesn't
(12:58):
need it. Your body knows raving the sugar in the
coffee because the coffee's bad.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
So why know sunglasses. I've actually heard something about like
your eye, your eyeballs actually need sunlight.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's true, So about jeez. Twelve years ago now, I
started a company called True Dark that makes circadian glasses
that filter out light to tell your body what time
it is. So five percent of the cells in your
eyes they're not seeing what you see. They're only measuring
the color and brightness of the light, so they can
tell your brain, hey, is it time to go to
(13:33):
sleep or time to do some stuff. So if they
never see bright light in the morning, they it's like,
I guess it's still time to sleep. We don't really
know what's going on. So you get less energy. So
that bright light in the morning aligns the timing signal.
So now all of your body is like, hey, let's
make energy now. And that also, strangely means you'll sleep
better at night. And if you have kids, do it
(13:54):
with your kids to make them go outside for five
minutes and they'll sleep better. And if your kids sleep better,
you sleep better. I've got two teens, we know what
that's like.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes, yes, I have teenagers too, and they're there is
that is a whole nother realm of I was actually
talking to somebody about this this morning. I'm like people
who have their kids when they are toward their fifties.
I don't know how last night my dog was and
this never happens, but I had this tiny dog and
he was up barking all night, and I thought if
(14:23):
they were up all night still, I could not handle it.
My body cannot recover like it used to.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's totally a lie.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Tor that does not, but I'm obviously causing this.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I recover like it used to, But it can and
it does. And I'm promising if I can do this
as a three hundred pounds computer hacker with chronic fatigue
syndrome in my twenties, Seriously, you can have more energy
next year than you did when you were thirty.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So that is actually the only reason I believe you,
because I would not believe you if you look like
this your whole life. I just want to be clear.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Because answers who are thirty years old, who've never been
fat telling people they can eat a Snicker's bar and
I cook, I would choke them if they were here,
except I'm full a piece, so I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I give them kille But you look, you look very
naturally healthy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's insane. Like literally, if anyone on earth has no
right to look like this, it's me and I And
sometimes I just I look at the mirror and I'm like,
what is up? All right, I'm gonna do the duchey
thing you're not supposed to do on on this. But
look at my apps, okay, And I just got back
from the gym. But like I saw stretch marks. You
can see stretch marks. But like I have veins, Like,
(15:30):
how can I be thin?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Do you only work out twenty minutes a week? This? Okay,
I do not. I can't.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
The ceo that that big podcast, Stephen, interviewed me, and
he wouldn't publish interviews. He didn't think it was possible.
I also think his largest sponsor was Vegan. That might
have been it, but.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Okay, So I am super impressed because I do feel
like there is a point when you're in that perimenopause
menopause stage where things are changing inside of you and
there is not a guideline. I mean, I've talked about
this for many different parts of a woman's life, especially
you go through pregnancy. There's a getting back on track
(16:12):
that you need to do, but there's no real guide,
there's no markers, there's no understanding of that. And then
I hear people talk about peptides and oxalate free diets
and all of these things, but I have no idea
what it means. I want to know. That's why I'm
talking to you.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You know, I don't think you really want to know.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I do want to know. I do. Are you thinking
that I'm not committed? I am not committed. I'm trying
to figure out how to be committed.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You want to know what to do to get results.
You actually don't want to know what an oxalate is?
Am I wrong?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't know. Well now I'm freaked out. I feel
like you're going to tell me it's something horrible.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
No, I'll tell you what an oxalate is. But here's
the thing. We're in a unique time in history. So
have you to go back twenty years or even ten years,
You're gonna have to hire me, and people do. I
have a longevity like advanced life extension program for VIPs,
and people spend six figures a year to work with
(17:10):
me and a team on managing all of their stuff.
And that's called unlimited.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So only rich people can do this?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, no, that's this is well, this is a very
very deep program and a lot of people say it's
for rich people. However, right now, thank you AI. You
can do almost all of this by yourself, and you
can literally go to your favorite AI. By the way,
(17:36):
don't use chat GPT because number one doesn't work very well.
Number two it's a narcissist. Number three it's now spying
for the government. So go to Claude because it's better. Okay,
So go to Claude and say, hey, what would Dave
Asprey do? You can literally ask it that. And Claude
stole every author's books on the planet, including downloading some
of the illegally, and just signed a legal settlement with
(17:58):
with like hundreds of thousands of authors doing it. So
all my books are in there, and you could go
to my websites and I have all my books in
all of my talks and everything else. But it doesn't
pick wine right. So go out there and say, my
goal is to do this. Use Dave Aspery's biohacking techniques
and tell me what's most likely to work for my biology.
Here's what I know. And now you don't have to
(18:19):
know what an oxalate is. You can go to Dave
Asprey dot com. I have a lowox challenge and I'll
teach you how to avoid them in what they are.
But here's the thing that's faster and faster to just
know what to do and then you learn what you want.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
But now I don't really want to know what they are.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Okay, here's what they are. Oxalates are plant defense compounds.
It turns out plants hate it when you eat them
and when you eat their babies. It makes sense because
then they wouldn't reproduce. So how do they stop us.
They can't run away because they have roots, so they
make toxins where if you eat too many of the plant,
it'll poison you and poison your babies. So then some
(18:54):
of you will die and then they can live. This
is the balance of nature. It's called an ecosystem. Right.
This is a very common plant toxin, very high in spinach,
which is one of the worst, in kale, and sadly
potatoes and potatoes, and the worst of all whole grains.
(19:14):
Whole wheat has a ton of it. White flour has
almost none of it. That's why they make white flour.
Brown rice not so good. White rice very low and toxic.
This is why I throw out all of history. We've
thrown away part of the food because it's not very
edible unless there's a famine. And when you eat this,
it goes into your body. It finds calcium and it
forms razor sharp microscopic calcium crystals that are tied to
(19:37):
gout seventy percent of kidney stones, arthritis, brain dysfunction, Alzheimer's autism,
skin problems. So pretty much most nuts, but not all
most seeds, but not all in all grains unless you
throw away the outside. If you're eating those along with
a bunch of these superfoods that are mostly high in it,
(19:59):
you're getting five times does that your body can handle
every day, And it's affecting fertility, and that muscle pain
you wake up with, and the brain fog and the
little stize that you get in your eyes. All these
things can be explained by razor sharp calcium crystals. So
I'm not saying that this is a cause of everything.
I'm just saying if you don't know about it, and
you're having a big old spinach, kale almond milk almonds
(20:19):
are particularly bad smoothie every morning, thinking you're healthy, and
then you walk around going, why does my skin look
like crap? And my joints hurt? Oh, and I get
UTI's all the time from because something's cutting by urethra.
Maybe you should step away from the freaking vegan food
and eat the way your great great great grandmother did
when she wanted to be fertile. She ate steak and eggs.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But she liked potatoes too. No potatoes.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
If you have some potatoes and you're eating enough steak
and eggs, you'll be fine. But if you're trying to
eat potatoes and almonds and like this long list of
these weird California superfoods that no one ate until the
California Farmers Association started marketing this in the seventies grape nuts.
I wouldn't feed that to my chickens. Literally I have.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I have in the last probably twenty years, felt like
if I was drinking something that was a horrible color
and didn't taste great, that it was healthy.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yep. I've been down that path too, and like, I
just measure results, and I have taught millions of people,
have nine best selling books, everything from meditation down to
what to eat in longevity and brain function because I
had all the problems myself I had.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
But does this mean like really weird eating like raw things,
or you have to eat like or you can't have butter,
or you can't have flavor, just.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Raw liver, nothing else. Gross. No, it's got to I
have a cookbook. I'm a michelinsar chef who works for
forty years as in I'm into food. But here's the thing.
You eat your animal based proteins first, because you need
enough protein. And a lot of women who are tired
they're not eating enough animal protein and they're not eating
enough calories. And if you want to be tired all
(21:58):
the time, calories your energy. So if you're eating salads,
a huge number of women they eat more calories and
suddenly they lose weight and like, how is that possible?
It's because now your body feels safe enough to put
on muscle. A friend who was a vegetarian and kind
of semi vegan finally just threw up her hands and said, fine,
(22:20):
I'll eat steak. And so she started eating oh, one
gram of animal protein per pound of body weight, the
way I recommend. Within six weeks, she lost six pounds
of fat and gain six pounds of muscle without changing
the workout, just from getting enough calories and just from
getting enough protein. So women in particular need to eat steak.
(22:42):
And if you're worried about this, if you're on a
day and you're picking at some dumb little salad with
spinach in your teeth. For guys, a woman eating a
ribbi is really sexy, and a woman eating salad gross.
We don't even want this. We don't eat the salad either, So.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Just gosh, So salad does a dating turn off?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Are you kidding? Gross?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next
on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So I will tell you
a story that one time. This is not a dating story,
but I was in so I used to work in manufacturing,
and it's like totally a dude's world, right. So there
was this one guy and he was probably thirty years
(23:22):
older than me, and we went to dinner with a
group of people and I ordered the steak, but it
came as like two and and they were I feel
like they were stuff with something. They were too big
for me to eat, so I ate one and then
and then I was traveling, so it was like, should
I take it. That's weird because I'm going back to hotel,
but I felt like I had to, so then I did,
(23:42):
and the guy just reamed me in front of all
of these other men. He was like, this is why
you don't take a woman to dinner because she can't
finish a steak. How embarrassing that she can't finish a steak.
So we were never going to date. But that was
not a turn on to him that I ordered.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
He was probably a guy though, who looked like you
eat twelve stacks he could. Yeah, yes, So here's the deal.
There are always douchebags. There are.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That's that is a fact, no matter where you are
or how well you eat.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, and you don't have to order the one pound steak.
But It is just give yourself permission to eat enough
protein protein first, and then have some veggies if you
feel called, and then after that have some white rice
is the best carbon, or some potatoes if you're not
loading up with these other higher toxin superfoods all the time,
and be happy. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
What about salt? Am I allowed to salt my food?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Is salt your food as much as your body wants,
and it is life changing. And people get really offended
at this go but salt high blood pressure. That science
is mostly based on a survey where they ask forty
thousand people how much salt do you think you had
in the last couple of days, and they just made
up a number. So the president of the High blood
(24:57):
Pressure Society, there's a medical doctor with you experienced it.
I'm just going to measure sodium in three thousand people
for three years, and he's trying to prove salt raises
high blood pressure. Into the study. He says, this is
Michael Alderman's name. He says, if you want to live longer,
eat more salt. Salt allows electrons electricity to move around
(25:18):
inside the body. And if you're tired right now, have
some salt and water have some creating, have some danger coffee,
and then have a steak or some animal protein, and
your entire day will change. You won't yell at your kids,
you won't get brain fog, you won't have the cravings,
you won't be hypoglybitchy, because the protein just completely makes
that work and life is better, Like it's actually better.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
So I did see that you said that this would
make you less likely to have those moments where you
yell at your kids. And I know people will say
I never yell at my kids, but you know that
moment where they do something and you go, why did
I yell about that?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
It's not because you're a bad person. It's because you
didn't have enough energy in your brain to regulate your response.
You couldn't catch it because your brain was like on
a dimmer switch. So no one's mean to their spouse,
no one's mean to their kids on purpose, unless you're
maybe a narcissist. But why are you doing it? Because
(26:15):
you couldn't help yourself because you were low on energy.
And I measure brain waves on executives and high performers.
People come and spend five days upgrading their brain. At
forty years, a sen I'm actually at our facility right
now in Austin, and I have measured this for more
than a decade. And the most powerful people on earth.
(26:37):
When we act like jerks, it's because we couldn't help ourselves.
And when you up the energy and you up the
level of presence or training or awareness, then you don't
yell at your kids very much. But I've yelled at
my kids, right, I think I have great kids. Right,
I apologize when I was done yelling at some point afterwards. Right, So,
then there's so fast You're human, and no human is
(26:58):
a full energy all the time. But when full energy,
you won't yell your kids.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Okay. So before I let you go, I have to
ask you about nicotine because I cannot wrap my mind
around this. Our whole lives, we've been told nicotine is
so bad. And then I see you saying you need
you should have a little nicotine, and I'm like, what
is that? What does that mean? Like you go out
and have a smoke in the morning, what is this?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Okay? I have never smoked. I have never advocated for
smoking or even tobacco. There's a large body of evidence
that a small amount of pharmaceutical nicotine not smoking has
health benefits. And I'll tell you tomorrow morning. If you're
really having brain fog, do all this stuff I just
(27:39):
said and add two or three milligrams of nicotine oral nicotine.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
They have little pouches, they have a spray, they have gum,
they have lozenges, and you could even put a patch
on if you wanted to. We're talking a cigarette might
have twenty milligrams. We're talking ten percent of a cigarettes
worth without ever smoke.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm not going to be walking around with a dip
cup and like my lips sticking out.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
No, no, I mean if you're into that, But that's
the tobacco cancer risk. So this low dose nicotine neuroprotective.
It actually is the most studied cognitive enhancing natural compound
along with caffeine. And really the reduction of Alzheimer's and
Parkinson's comes from Vanderbilt University. In nineteen eighty six. I
(28:27):
interviewed the researcher on my show on the Human Upgrade,
and he's like, yeah, we notice smokers get cancer, but
they don't get Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. There must be something
good in there. It turns out. The good is the nicotine,
the bad is the smoke. And I'm not saying you
need to pound nicotine all day long, but there's a
very strong case, especially starting around age forty, for doing
(28:48):
up to five milligrams of nicotine a day, and a
lot of those little little zins and things like that
are more than five milligrams, so you'd use it for
a brief period of time, or buy the lowest dose
and use it before a big meeting. Interesting, and the
focus is insane. I started on one milligram a day
fifteen years ago and been talking about it ever since,
(29:09):
including for neuroprotection, because if you want to live to
you know, hundreds of years, you might want a working brain,
and low dos nicotine is part of it.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But do you get addicted to that?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
At five milligrams a day, the addiction is about the
same as coffee. It goes away in three days. It's
not a big deal. If you go above five milligrams
a day on a regular basis, you become addicted and
you need to tapeer it down. But it's not like
smoking addiction. And by the way, they beating is terrible.
Don't fade, don't smoke Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So there are other ways to get it and that
will help, is it? Like I mean, it's a stimulant.
So so I know so many people who are taking
adderall and I just think that is so dangerous because
I've seen a lot of people become really addicted to that.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Adderall is bad news. So instead of adderall, there's a
drug that was invented for narcollepsy called modafanol, and I've
been on AB nightline. They call it the limitless drug,
and I mean only guys saying, yeah, I took that
to get through business school, and I did have a
bag on my head because I'm happy to talk about
what I do. So I've been taking the lowest dose
of that. It's not even a stimulant, it's a cognitive
(30:14):
enhancing drug for about twenty five years. So yeah, you
can take things that are better than aderall that make
your brain work incredibly well. Nicotine's one of them. Modafnols
a prescription drug. That's another danger. Coffee is a third thing.
These are Mother Nature's original neotropics, the coffee and the nicotine.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Anyway, so interesting, Okay, So if people want to learn more,
they can go to this conference it's the Beyond Biohacking Conference.
This is you said? It's May twenty seventh through the twenty.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Ninth, correct in Austin, Texas, and just go to Biohackingconference
dot com.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And I've heard there's a code that they can use
to get four hundred dollars off if they if they
use the code tutor four hundred. Is that true?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
That is true? Code tutor four hundred to get a discount.
And you will meet people people who are totally curious,
totally interested, and just willing to say I want to
be more than healthy. I want to do something beyond.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
So is it are they going there and they're listening
to lectures or is this interactive? Just give us a
little idea of what they'll see.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
You're interactive. So there's a huge community there, like everyone
is friendly. Steve Aoki is playing for the party. And
it's actually a themed party. This year it's Spirit Animal.
Last year was eighties, right, so people, you get thousands
of people showed up for like a major DJ and
we're just having fun. The inventors for hundreds of biohacking
(31:35):
devices and supplements, they're there. They're giving talks, but they're
also there, so it's like an adult playground. You get
to go in and like try the thing for your brain,
try the thing all the technology for biohacking for longevity.
So if you want to be smarter, faster, a live longer,
it's private place to be.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And we'll find truly mold free coffee there.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
There will be danger coffee on an unlimited basis for you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Amazing. All right, So you're you're convincing me I because
I really I'm telling you. I'm not kidding when I
say I've been trying to figure out exactly what this
is and it does seem hard. So now I'm going
to check out AI and I'm going to learn everything
about you. So I'll be somewhat of a stalker, but
you won't know because you don't know what I'm doing
on AI, which is the great thing I can like
(32:20):
privately stalk you.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Definitely also good to Instagram, Dave dot Asbury. I post
a lot about just the ladys.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yes, this is where I watched a lot of your videos.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Cool, awesome.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Thank you so much, Dave Asbury. It's been great talking
to you and I am so impressed with what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh thanks tutor Seeah.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Absolutely, thank you and thank you all for listening to
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always, you can get it
wherever you get your podcast, the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast Rumble,
or YouTube at Tutor Dixon, but just join us on
the podcast and right now go have a blessed day.
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