April 8, 2026 • 32 mins
What’s really behind the “Ozempic era”—and is it changing how America thinks about weight, health, and discipline?
On this episode of The Tudor Dixon Podcast, Tudor sits down with weight loss expert Dr. Tom Lavin to break down the truth about GLP-1 medications like Ozempic and Wegovy. From Hollywood’s sudden transformation to everyday Americans turning to injections, this conversation goes beyond the hype to uncover the real risks, benefits, and long-term consequences.
They discuss how GLP-1 drugs actually work in the brain, why they’re being called a game-changer for obesity, and the growing concerns around misuse—especially among already-thin individuals. Dr. Lavin explains why these medications aren’t a magic fix, the importance of maintaining muscle mass, and how improper use can lead to serious health issues.
Plus, they dive into the surprising link between GLP-1s and addiction control, the lack of medical oversight in today’s fast-growing weight loss industry, and what patients should be asking before starting treatment.
If you’ve been curious about Ozempic, weight loss injections, or the future of metabolic health, this is a must-listen conversation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today, we are going
to be talking all things weight loss because we just
saw recently the I think it was what the oscars
that everybody looked incredibly thin, like really some people looked
really thin. I think some people were even saying, eh,
we're some of these people too thin, Like what's going on?
(00:20):
And we have a lot of questions about the ozembic era.
What does that mean? Is what does healthcare look like?
So we found a guy who's been in the weight
loss industry his whole life, like medical, weight loss, surgery,
all of this. And I find his story really interesting
because he's gone into a more holistic approach of medicine
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and how to take care of ourselves. And he's going
to explain the rules to us around some of these
GLP ones. And I say that because I was like
researching before this podcast, and I thought, and I've had
people who in my life have taken these and I
thought it was just kind of like, I don't know,
you like the way you go home with an antibiotic
(01:04):
where they're like, okay, take one every twelve hours and
then you know you'll be better. So that was the
experience that people I have in my life had with this.
It's like here's a shot, you give it to yourself
this many times and then you'll be thin. And so
I talked to doctor Tom Lavin about it. He's like, no,
this is not the way. So we have him here
(01:26):
right now. He actually leads an organization called Your Era.
It's a nationwide network that provides personalized physician led GLP
one care, so he can tell us everything. Doctor Lavin,
thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Great great to be here, Tudor.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I'm very happy to have this discussion because I feel
it's so important.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, I think it's important too, because I think that
we have an unhealthy relationship with people gaining and losing
weight just in general, because we had years of when
I was young, I was like the eighties snack well generation,
where it was like we're not going to eat any fat,
but we're going to load up on carbs and sugar
and that's somehow not going to affect our lives, and
(02:11):
yet we all got really fat stale, and then we
went into the like I feel like my kids have
grown up in the body positivity era, where it's like
doesn't matter how much weight you gain because you look
beautiful no matter what. And then but I think that
was really because we didn't know how to get rid
of it. And now we have GLP ones and we're like,
you have to be as skinny as possible and there's
(02:33):
no rules. So what is happening.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, it's been a roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Obviously, the American Heart Association came out with low fat
diets somewhere back in the eighties, and so we went
low fat, which meant high carb and we are obc
rates skyrocketed, and then we realized, well, that's not good
at all. Obviously you have to eat the right bats,
(02:59):
but you definitely want to go on a lower carb diet.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But really it's just a balanced diet.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And these meds with the proper clinical oversight, are extremely effective.
It's the first time we've had a medicine that can
actually change our set point in our brain to make
us want to live at the.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Correct weight, first time ever.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But of course they can be abused like anything else,
and they need clinical oversight.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So I think a lot of us look at this
and we're like, this is just a quick way to
get skinny, and it's all about you know what, we
look like. But when I read about your story and
what you've helped people with, I mean, we're talking about
a lot of medical conditions that are connected to being overweight,
(03:50):
and there is there for people who are suffering from
hypertension or diabetes or heart disease. This is kind of
a lifesaver, right.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
No question about it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Obviously, OBC is a complex neural, hormonal, chronic disease. So
this whole idea of the willpower just push away and
walk more is such a naive kind of understanding. We
have very complex pathways. Just think of you know, hundreds
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of thousands of years of evolution where food was scarce
and now suddenly over the past hundred years, you know,
we have food, so our brains not regulated.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So what these GLP ones do.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Actually level the playing field and help people from you know,
when people are overweight be able to regulate down to
a weight that is more healthy. So they're very effective
as far as that standpoint. But once again, if people
take them without a clinical oversight and get too thin
(05:00):
and have muscle wasting, that's the other side of the problem.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So that's what there are. Like if you go to
one of these websites, you always have to put in
your age and your weight or some judgment where the
computer goes, okay, you are eligible or you are not eligible.
But I would argue that we've seen celebrities who seem
(05:25):
like they started in the ineligible category and they are
still taking this. So why are you Why is there
a point where it's like you're not heavy enough? What happens?
Why shouldn't you take it?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
So we give it to help people lose weight, and
even people that are twenty thirty pounds overweight, we say, well,
they're not sick. There are bad things going on in
your body at twenty to thirty pounds overweight with chronic
inflammation which has created our whole kind of chronic disease.
They're all from this inflammation. So it for people twenty
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thirty pounds overweight, there is a good clinical medical indication.
But if your ideal weight are already thin and you
just want to go on it to get thinner, that
because every time you have any kind of weight loss
of muscle wasting unless you're actually lifting weights and doing
resistance training. So once again, the whole program we have
(06:26):
is to make sure people are doing something to maintain
muscle mass getting their protein, and we even take a
bigger holistic approach to I want you to get your
regular sleep, eat appropriately, to avoid ultra processed foods, get
your protein, minimize alcohol and things that hurt you, and
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so in that you just become so much healthier and
have better vitality.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So even if you are in the category of yes,
you fit this medication and you should take it, there
are still things that you have to monitor. You still
should be trying to have a healthy lifestyle. You should
still try to work out these aren't It's not like
this is just a miracle and you don't have to
do any of that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
No, of course not. So you know, I tell everyone.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We're looking for it, just to be clear. I've been
not gonna lie, and we don't want to do all
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I tell her, when you're not a child, okay, So
nothing comes without, you know, consequences. And I also tell
people the programs that existed before golp ones didn't work
because they didn't change that internal set point in our
hypothmas to make us want to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Live at a lower weight. This does that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So it gives you the tool to change that internal
set point and let you live at.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
A lower weight.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
But at the same time, it comes with responsibilities that
you need to know about as far as like I said,
you want to live healthy, so you have to do
resistance training, you have to do make sure you get
your adequate protein, get your vitamins, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And it's important to give people all.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
The tools so they know what they need to do
and they can pick and choose, you.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Know, what they do.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But losing weight without taking protein or doing any kind
of exercise is going to involve losing muscle mass, and
like you were saying, as we get older, that's a
bigger problem.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So that's what I'm wondering because I see people that
I know who have had me replacements or hip replacements
or shoulder replacements, and those areas to me are already weak.
They've already had to do they've already had to do
physical therapy to build that area back up. And when
for me, when I watch people that I know that
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are in their seventies, it's hard to even get back
to square one after you've had that surgery. But then
I think there's a real temptation to say, okay now
because I've had the struggle and I've gained weight. I
want to take this GLP one. How does that affect
you if you already have a problem where you have
weakened muscles in a certain area of your body.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, no question.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Going back a little bit, the reason a lot of
people need hip replacements near replacements is because they carry
too much weight on those joints for too long a
period of time. So the problem can be looked at
both ways. But at the same time, if you go
through any kind of joint replacement at an advanced age
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and don't work on rehab and maintaining muscle mass, certainly
that's going to put you at a disadvantage.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's so that is where I feel like these things
kind of come together. And I think my experience has
been that I feel, I will say, in the entire
health care industry. Maybe it's just the area that I
live in. I know. I mean, I've had loved ones,
I've had friends that go in whether it is a
(10:12):
psychiatric medication, a weight less medication, any type of like allergies,
it's prescribed and there's no interaction after that. And to me,
this is a medication where there's constant changes and we
hear there's side effects. We hear that a person can
have gastro intestinal reactions that are that are pretty severe
(10:34):
and they don't have a way to get they're not
even checked in on that shocks right.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That was one of our reasons for setting up your
ERA because we felt like all the digital platforms didn't
have the follow up that was needed with physicians or
nurse practitioners that really have an understanding of how to
follow patients and how to empower them with the knowledge.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
To get their best outcomes. So no question about it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
To just go on the medicine with no clinical oversight
and just think this is going to be magical, I
don't need to do anything is very naive and can
be dangerous and that you will lose muscle mass if
you're not doing some kind of exercise.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
But we trust our doctors and they're not saying that.
I'm telling you, I know someone that went on this,
and I know for a fact there was no discussion
over what your diet should be, whether you should try
to do any exercise. I mean, I'm reading your site,
so went to your ERA and I'm reading and it's
there's like, Okay, this is what you have to do
to increase, make sure you maintain your muscle mass, and
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then also eating correctly and add protein into your diet.
Those discussions are not being had in the fifteen minute
visit at the office. Is it because doctors don't have time?
Is it because doctors have so many medications they don't
really have all the information that came on the market
pretty quickly as a weight luster or at least I
(12:01):
feel like it. But now I think we're finding out
celebrities have been using it since like twenty eighteen, so
maybe it just feels like that is there not enough information?
How is it that they are not passing that on
to us as patients.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I think it's multifactorial.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
So a lot of doctors don't have a full understanding
and they don't even know how this drug works, how
to follow up, how do you dose it? Can you
stop it? Do people take it forever? And there's so
many questions that doctors don't know. And at the same time,
you have patients that just want to get on it.
They don't want to hear anything. Just give me the medicine.
That's all I need. And that's not the right answer either,
(12:40):
So it has to be this collaboration between healthcare provider
team and the patient, empowering the patient to know everything
to optimize their health long term. We now know that
muscle mass is one of the key things in longevity,
so to lose that is not a good thing over time.
(13:02):
So you need a whole program.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. So this is your specialty. You're
a weight loss professional. I mean that's your weight loss
healthcare professional, wise went to so so my question is
why why is it if I have a knee problem,
(13:26):
I have to go to a specialist. If I have
a foot problem, I go to a specialist. If I
you know all, if I have a heart problem, I
go to a specialist. But if I have a weight problem,
too often, even though there is there are specialists, I
just go to my GP. What shouldn't they be referring
to everybody to a doctor who specializes in this.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's complex because it's a matter of access. So you know,
you really want to make sure that the general public
that needs this has access to the medicine so they
can be taken care of. But they they have to understand,
you know, how to take it optimally. For their own health,
their long term health and the side effects aren't you know,
(14:11):
essentially life and death like a lot of other areas.
But optimizing your health, maintaining your muscle mass, you know,
feeling better about life are critical. So you know, we're
trying to make people aware that you really need.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
A full plan when you're on GLP ones.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So I mean, you say not life and death, but
you did just say that muscle mass is related to longevity.
And I'm assuming you're talking about like how long we're
going to live? Correct, So then if you're taking these
and you're not aware of that, I mean, you really
could be potentially hurting your body. And I know, I
know that I have people that I know in their
(14:51):
twenties who are not heavy, and how are they How
are they getting this they get? I mean, is there
I guess there's no rules if you if you just
say you really want it, you can get it. Because
I know a young woman who is scarily thin, scarily thin,
it does not make any sense she is she does
not need this. And there's like a boutique almost like
(15:14):
the same place you'd go to get your eyelashes done,
and they're giving out what they say, is an injection
of GLP one. I don't even know that they have
a medical license. How is that possible?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, that it's not regulated well at the you know,
every state regulates their physicians and how they practice, and.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So you know you're you're going to get that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And there's also a black market of GOLP ones that
might be made in Mexico or China or you know,
and they say not for human use or only for
animal use. And yeah, and if it says that you
need to run, like, don't take things that are not
for human use, that.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Feels it's like a pretty natural reaction to run from that.
But maybe it's just that you'd want to be thin
so bad that you're like, I mean, I guess I
would also feel like, oh, they must have cleared it
for human use. It just still says that because it's
clearly here for me.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Right right, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I think it's more a matter if people are desperate,
they want to lose whatever amount of weight, and so
they're they're willing to accept things that's saying not for
human use or for research only. And once again, there's
no oversight as far as sterility or purity even if
(16:38):
it says purity on it, it doesn't matter if it
says not for human use, research only or animal use.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You know, stay away.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That is so scary when I was just thinking the
other day, when, yeah, when you know, when we were little,
you would watch all those movies that would find the
Fountain of Youth, and like they'd be searching their whole
the whole movie for the fountain of youth. And when
I was a kid, I thought that was just like, Oh,
these people just want to live forever, you know now
that I want I'm like, oh, no, I know what
they were looking for. They want to get rid of this,
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and you want to get rid of this, and you know,
they wanted to look young again. But that's why we
make movies about it, because there is such a desire
to go back to grasp what you used to have.
I mean, I just saw a clip from that show
Shit's Creek where she's like, take pictures of yourself now naked,
because when you get old, to look back with much
(17:31):
kinder eyes. And I'm like, you know, that's not a lie,
I mean, but it is true. You look back and
you're like, I really look good. Then when I thought
I was fat because we're constantly looking for that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
My wife always says, you'll never look as good as
you do today as much as.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You criticize how you look today.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So but we always think that we can. There is
better and there's reasons we think that. I mean, you
look at just these these images and these video is
that recently came out of Oprah and to me Moore,
and they are they're very thin, and they look very young,
but they look like you could blow them over with
(18:10):
a feather. I mean, they looked very and I don't
know if that obviously I don't know their stories. So
people were saying, oh, this is a GLP one, but
can you get to the point where you're so thin
that you are shaking? I mean you can see they're
kind of tremors. They have kind of tremors as they're walking.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, I really worry when people get below a BMI
of twenty, what are you doing? But like you said,
it's that infatuation with being so thin. Obviously, we're about
being healthy and living your life at the highest level
is from a physiological standpoint, and that's an optimal weight
(18:52):
range with you know, if you need a GLP one Obviously,
there's a lot of microdosing working work going on today
in research on the inflammatory pathways and the addiction pathways,
cardioproductive pathways.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So many things going on.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So these drugs are peptides that are far beyond just
diabetes or weight loss. There's so many other long term benefits,
you know, not to put aside. Addition, the impulse you know,
reductions are great for gambling or narcotics or alcohol or cigarettes.
(19:34):
So many different things have research going on today. So
the GLP ones have really changed the landscape on so
many different therapies.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
No, okay, So that is interesting because I have heard
people and I just recently started hearing this maybe I'm
behind the times or something, where people are saying, you know,
you can knock GLP ones, but I was an alcoholic
and I'm totally cured, or I mean other addictions, even
weird things like the desire to gamble, Like it's is
(20:07):
that possible? Is it possible that a drug?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Get sure?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
In your brain?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
You have these mesolimbic and cortical pathways. Uh, and the
mesolimbic pathways are these to induced dope means spikes, meaning
I see a pizza, My dope means spikes.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I need to eat the pizza.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
So the golp ones drop that dope means spike, so
you don't have that drive to eat that pizza. And
that goes for uh, it appears for narcotics and alcohol
and tobacco and gambling and scrolling on your phone and
so many different things that you know.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So it's kind of that executive.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Control over impulse control, which we all want, but glp
ones appear early on to really impact these areas.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's very interesting because we see people on all of
these different medications to try to control those things in
just the I mean, what you're saying kind of reminds
me of that ad D mind where it's like I'm
gonna start this, I'm gonna move that, I'm going to
start this, I'm gonna move to that, and then you
get put on a stimulant, which I've never understood. I'm like,
(21:25):
why is the person who is like I should do
fourteen things at a time. Then it's like, let's make
that take that to the next level, which I guess
there's some medicine behind that. But when I hear about
what this does, what is the how do you know
a microdose, like I because this is not like you're
taking the full shot every day for this kind of stuff, right, yes, right,
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how does that work?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
There's a lot of research going on in those areas,
but it kind of goes to the what happens when
I get to my goal weight?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Like can you just stop it?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And we know there's some weight regain if you you
know cold So some of our patients stay on the
same dose, some go to a very low amount, and
that seems to handle most patients. And you can call
it microdosing and call it whatever you want. Microdosing kind
of got trendy, but you're just going to a much
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lower dose of the medicine, which with all these other
pathways and benefits, make sense. But it also seems to
help people maintain the weight loss. And there are certain
people and there are not many, that can go cold turkey.
They get there, they're fine, they're done, and they can
maintain that weight loss. And it does come back to
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the hypothlamics set point that I was talking about earlier,
where you know, we have this and there's a lot
of research that has gone into this where the hypothalamus
is really the hunger center of our brain, and there's
a weight. You know, you could think of it as
a thermostat, where there's a weight where your body feels comfort.
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Every time you try to go below it, you know
you can, you know, with sheer willpower do it for
a while, and then you go right back to that weight.
And that was before glp ones that actually lower the
set point. So glp ones are the first med and
they're peptides that can actually lower that set point, which
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is why people are having long term weight loss with
glp ones, whereas before that nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I saw this thing on social
media the other day that I actually think was not true.
But you know, you read these things, you know, like
is this actually is this a true thing? I think
this is not a true thing, but it was, but
I want to ask you about it. It was a
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celebrity who claimed that they couldn't get back to a
like they lost too much weight and then they couldn't
regulate their body even though they got off, they couldn't
regulate their body back.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That'd be hard to believe because once you get off
the g lp ones, you're going to have, you know,
some trending upwards, particularly if you're below your ideal weight,
your body's going to want to get back there. But
once again, you know there's anorexia, nervosa and other you know,
psychiatric diseases.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It could have played a role in that.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, that's you know, so many personal factors that
we don't know about that could have been involved.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
There is there anyone who is coming to you now
and saying I have this addiction and I want to
and they and you just start them at the microducing to.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Test that, oh addictions. Yeah, yes, there's there are a
lot of patients that you know, they have chronic disease,
like we're seeing patients that have different autoimmune diseases where
it really impacts or gets gets them off their other
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meds and help sem control. So definitely there are patients
that you know, have alcohol problems or other problems that
we will try because the scii FI profile of the
GLP ones is so low and there is mounting biomarker
evidence and clinical evidence that they impact so many disease processes,
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including addiction. The addiction the way we found that is
everybody was losing weight, but then they didn't really want
to drink alcohol anymore. They didn't have that drive to
Netflix and a bottle of wine every night.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So the you know, they.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Broke that weekly habit where they still you know, can
enjoy alcohol if they want to, but they don't have
that Q induced.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Drive to grab the bottle of wine.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Is it something that we already have in our systems?
I guess this is this? Does it replicate something natural?
Or how do how do some people have these issues
and some people don't.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
There's a lot of genetics and evolution that is involved.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
In all of our different you know.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Mental pathways of why are certain people overweight and certain
art And I always say it's genetics plus environment. I
mean people that we used to operate on families, and
you know, I'd operate on the husband wife.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
They'd lose one hundred and fifty pounds each.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
And I'd see the little ten year old one year
Christmas picture, he's way overweight. The next year's environment change
because they quit eating so bad. He's a thin guy now.
So so it's a combination of genetics and environment. And
I think this evolutionary dysregulation of all of our pathways
where I mean, think about it. Up until about one
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hundred and hundred fifty years ago, there was no food.
I mean you were a hunter gatherer. You were always
in search of food. So our pathways were driving us
eat when you find food, eat. Well, the last fifty years,
there's food everywhere, and the ultra processed food industry has exploded.
So uh so these pathways just imploded and so patients
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got you know, over the past fifty years, obesity has
just gone rampant.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
But what is the medication? Is it something that we
is it something totally foreign to our systems? This is
something we are sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, So that's so.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Glp ones are something called increte ins and their their
gut derived hormones that have effects on the body. And
the big effect effects are they decrease your your insult
or they increase your instant decrease your blood glucose after
you eat, and they slow the stomach gastric emptying. And
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they have all these impacts we're talked about on the
brain to decrease your set point, to decrease high drive.
And so the problem with our endogenous meaning the glp
ones in our body, are they only last a minute
because they have this enzyme DPP four that breaks it down. Well,
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we've been able to engineer the new GLP ones where
they last a week now, not just a minute one
to two minutes. They last an entire week. The half
flights like five days. So now these encretings can have
all these impacts all day, every day instead of just
(28:38):
after eating.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Interesting, all right, So the last thing I want to
ask you. You mentioned autoimmune disorders, is that, like crones
and things like that, is this improving those disorders?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Rheumatoid arth writ is crones different? And once again there's
no long term clinical research. There's just the biomar animal
studies and shorter term studies. But we're finding in clinical
practice that it does improve people's health and getting some
people off off their medicines or on lower medicines and
(29:14):
improving their symptoms. So there are a lot of kind
of chronic di these processes that we've been treating forever
in our you know, like I said, our disease treatment
healthcare system, that we might be able to impact kind
of at a inflammatory basic level.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Interesting, Actually I said that was my last question. But
what are the side effects, like, what are the bad
things that can happen because I know a lot of
people get on it and they don't know what they're experiencing.
I've heard I've heard constipation, I've heard diarrhea, I've heard
all kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
There's there's kind of short term and long term, and
we're kind of talking about the long term, you know,
the loss of muscle mass, loss of bone density, which
is why we really stress nutrition, protein and resistance training.
That's kind of long term. But the short term that
people feel, you know, in the first you know, week
(30:12):
of taking therapy or the GI symptoms and they're somewhat
self limited, but one can be nausea, and once again
we kind of talk about this yellow zone, green zone,
red zone concept where if your dose is too high,
you're in this red zone where you're getting nausea, really
bad heartburn, and you just need to drop the dose down.
(30:35):
Usually on those symptoms, but diarrhea and constipation or other
symptoms that patients will have and they're usually self limiting
and over time you resolve, They resolve. Patients accommodate to
those symptoms. But it's that first one to two months
where you're trying to get in the right dosing range
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and tolerate the medicine before you you know, if you
can make it through one to two months, patients seem
to have really good results.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It took the first month that they really have challenges.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Great. Great, So people want to know how to find
out more. If they go to your era, they go
to your site. Is that something that you can go
from any state from any place? Is that like local
or how does that work?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah? Your era dot com.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
We're national, We're able to provide care in all fifty states,
and we're will provide information and oversight. Once again, our
goal is to empower people with the knowledge to optimize
their health, lose your weight, but lose it in a
healthy way and maintain it long term.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Wonderful. Thank you so much. This has been very informative,
so anybody who wants to go there check it out.
Doctor Tom Levin, thank you so much for being on today.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Thanks Tutor, it was my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today, we are going
to be talking all things weight loss because we just
saw recently the I think it was what the oscars
that everybody looked incredibly thin, like really some people looked
really thin. I think some people were even saying, eh,
we're some of these people too thin, Like what's going on?
(00:20):
And we have a lot of questions about the ozembic era.
What does that mean? Is what does healthcare look like?
So we found a guy who's been in the weight
loss industry his whole life, like medical, weight loss, surgery,
all of this. And I find his story really interesting
because he's gone into a more holistic approach of medicine
(00:42):
and how to take care of ourselves. And he's going
to explain the rules to us around some of these
GLP ones. And I say that because I was like
researching before this podcast, and I thought, and I've had
people who in my life have taken these and I
thought it was just kind of like, I don't know,
you like the way you go home with an antibiotic
(01:04):
where they're like, okay, take one every twelve hours and
then you know you'll be better. So that was the
experience that people I have in my life had with this.
It's like here's a shot, you give it to yourself
this many times and then you'll be thin. And so
I talked to doctor Tom Lavin about it. He's like, no,
this is not the way. So we have him here
(01:26):
right now. He actually leads an organization called Your Era.
It's a nationwide network that provides personalized physician led GLP
one care, so he can tell us everything. Doctor Lavin,
thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Great great to be here, Tudor.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I'm very happy to have this discussion because I feel
it's so important.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, I think it's important too, because I think that
we have an unhealthy relationship with people gaining and losing
weight just in general, because we had years of when
I was young, I was like the eighties snack well generation,
where it was like we're not going to eat any fat,
but we're going to load up on carbs and sugar
and that's somehow not going to affect our lives, and
(02:11):
yet we all got really fat stale, and then we
went into the like I feel like my kids have
grown up in the body positivity era, where it's like
doesn't matter how much weight you gain because you look
beautiful no matter what. And then but I think that
was really because we didn't know how to get rid
of it. And now we have GLP ones and we're like,
you have to be as skinny as possible and there's
(02:33):
no rules. So what is happening.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, it's been a roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Obviously, the American Heart Association came out with low fat
diets somewhere back in the eighties, and so we went
low fat, which meant high carb and we are obc
rates skyrocketed, and then we realized, well, that's not good
at all. Obviously you have to eat the right bats,
(02:59):
but you definitely want to go on a lower carb diet.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
But really it's just a balanced diet.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
And these meds with the proper clinical oversight, are extremely effective.
It's the first time we've had a medicine that can
actually change our set point in our brain to make
us want to live at the.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Correct weight, first time ever.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But of course they can be abused like anything else,
and they need clinical oversight.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So I think a lot of us look at this
and we're like, this is just a quick way to
get skinny, and it's all about you know what, we
look like. But when I read about your story and
what you've helped people with, I mean, we're talking about
a lot of medical conditions that are connected to being overweight,
(03:50):
and there is there for people who are suffering from
hypertension or diabetes or heart disease. This is kind of
a lifesaver, right.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
No question about it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Obviously, OBC is a complex neural, hormonal, chronic disease. So
this whole idea of the willpower just push away and
walk more is such a naive kind of understanding. We
have very complex pathways. Just think of you know, hundreds
(04:24):
of thousands of years of evolution where food was scarce
and now suddenly over the past hundred years, you know,
we have food, so our brains not regulated.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So what these GLP ones do.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Actually level the playing field and help people from you know,
when people are overweight be able to regulate down to
a weight that is more healthy. So they're very effective
as far as that standpoint. But once again, if people
take them without a clinical oversight and get too thin
(05:00):
and have muscle wasting, that's the other side of the problem.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So that's what there are. Like if you go to
one of these websites, you always have to put in
your age and your weight or some judgment where the
computer goes, okay, you are eligible or you are not eligible.
But I would argue that we've seen celebrities who seem
(05:25):
like they started in the ineligible category and they are
still taking this. So why are you Why is there
a point where it's like you're not heavy enough? What happens?
Why shouldn't you take it?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
So we give it to help people lose weight, and
even people that are twenty thirty pounds overweight, we say, well,
they're not sick. There are bad things going on in
your body at twenty to thirty pounds overweight with chronic
inflammation which has created our whole kind of chronic disease.
They're all from this inflammation. So it for people twenty
(06:02):
thirty pounds overweight, there is a good clinical medical indication.
But if your ideal weight are already thin and you
just want to go on it to get thinner, that
because every time you have any kind of weight loss
of muscle wasting unless you're actually lifting weights and doing
resistance training. So once again, the whole program we have
(06:26):
is to make sure people are doing something to maintain
muscle mass getting their protein, and we even take a
bigger holistic approach to I want you to get your
regular sleep, eat appropriately, to avoid ultra processed foods, get
your protein, minimize alcohol and things that hurt you, and
(06:48):
so in that you just become so much healthier and
have better vitality.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So even if you are in the category of yes,
you fit this medication and you should take it, there
are still things that you have to monitor. You still
should be trying to have a healthy lifestyle. You should
still try to work out these aren't It's not like
this is just a miracle and you don't have to
do any of that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
No, of course not. So you know, I tell everyone.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We're looking for it, just to be clear. I've been
not gonna lie, and we don't want to do all
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I tell her, when you're not a child, okay, So
nothing comes without, you know, consequences. And I also tell
people the programs that existed before golp ones didn't work
because they didn't change that internal set point in our
hypothmas to make us want to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Live at a lower weight. This does that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So it gives you the tool to change that internal
set point and let you live at.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
A lower weight.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
But at the same time, it comes with responsibilities that
you need to know about as far as like I said,
you want to live healthy, so you have to do
resistance training, you have to do make sure you get
your adequate protein, get your vitamins, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And it's important to give people all.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
The tools so they know what they need to do
and they can pick and choose, you.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Know, what they do.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But losing weight without taking protein or doing any kind
of exercise is going to involve losing muscle mass, and
like you were saying, as we get older, that's a
bigger problem.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So that's what I'm wondering because I see people that
I know who have had me replacements or hip replacements
or shoulder replacements, and those areas to me are already weak.
They've already had to do they've already had to do
physical therapy to build that area back up. And when
for me, when I watch people that I know that
(08:53):
are in their seventies, it's hard to even get back
to square one after you've had that surgery. But then
I think there's a real temptation to say, okay now
because I've had the struggle and I've gained weight. I
want to take this GLP one. How does that affect
you if you already have a problem where you have
weakened muscles in a certain area of your body.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, no question.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Going back a little bit, the reason a lot of
people need hip replacements near replacements is because they carry
too much weight on those joints for too long a
period of time. So the problem can be looked at
both ways. But at the same time, if you go
through any kind of joint replacement at an advanced age
(09:39):
and don't work on rehab and maintaining muscle mass, certainly
that's going to put you at a disadvantage.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's so that is where I feel like these things
kind of come together. And I think my experience has
been that I feel, I will say, in the entire
health care industry. Maybe it's just the area that I
live in. I know. I mean, I've had loved ones,
I've had friends that go in whether it is a
(10:12):
psychiatric medication, a weight less medication, any type of like allergies,
it's prescribed and there's no interaction after that. And to me,
this is a medication where there's constant changes and we
hear there's side effects. We hear that a person can
have gastro intestinal reactions that are that are pretty severe
(10:34):
and they don't have a way to get they're not
even checked in on that shocks right.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That was one of our reasons for setting up your
ERA because we felt like all the digital platforms didn't
have the follow up that was needed with physicians or
nurse practitioners that really have an understanding of how to
follow patients and how to empower them with the knowledge.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
To get their best outcomes. So no question about it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
To just go on the medicine with no clinical oversight
and just think this is going to be magical, I
don't need to do anything is very naive and can
be dangerous and that you will lose muscle mass if
you're not doing some kind of exercise.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
But we trust our doctors and they're not saying that.
I'm telling you, I know someone that went on this,
and I know for a fact there was no discussion
over what your diet should be, whether you should try
to do any exercise. I mean, I'm reading your site,
so went to your ERA and I'm reading and it's
there's like, Okay, this is what you have to do
to increase, make sure you maintain your muscle mass, and
(11:40):
then also eating correctly and add protein into your diet.
Those discussions are not being had in the fifteen minute
visit at the office. Is it because doctors don't have time?
Is it because doctors have so many medications they don't
really have all the information that came on the market
pretty quickly as a weight luster or at least I
(12:01):
feel like it. But now I think we're finding out
celebrities have been using it since like twenty eighteen, so
maybe it just feels like that is there not enough information?
How is it that they are not passing that on
to us as patients.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I think it's multifactorial.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
So a lot of doctors don't have a full understanding
and they don't even know how this drug works, how
to follow up, how do you dose it? Can you
stop it? Do people take it forever? And there's so
many questions that doctors don't know. And at the same time,
you have patients that just want to get on it.
They don't want to hear anything. Just give me the medicine.
That's all I need. And that's not the right answer either,
(12:40):
So it has to be this collaboration between healthcare provider
team and the patient, empowering the patient to know everything
to optimize their health long term. We now know that
muscle mass is one of the key things in longevity,
so to lose that is not a good thing over time.
(13:02):
So you need a whole program.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. So this is your specialty. You're
a weight loss professional. I mean that's your weight loss
healthcare professional, wise went to so so my question is
why why is it if I have a knee problem,
(13:26):
I have to go to a specialist. If I have
a foot problem, I go to a specialist. If I
you know all, if I have a heart problem, I
go to a specialist. But if I have a weight problem,
too often, even though there is there are specialists, I
just go to my GP. What shouldn't they be referring
to everybody to a doctor who specializes in this.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's complex because it's a matter of access. So you know,
you really want to make sure that the general public
that needs this has access to the medicine so they
can be taken care of. But they they have to understand,
you know, how to take it optimally. For their own health,
their long term health and the side effects aren't you know,
(14:11):
essentially life and death like a lot of other areas.
But optimizing your health, maintaining your muscle mass, you know,
feeling better about life are critical. So you know, we're
trying to make people aware that you really need.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
A full plan when you're on GLP ones.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So I mean, you say not life and death, but
you did just say that muscle mass is related to longevity.
And I'm assuming you're talking about like how long we're
going to live? Correct, So then if you're taking these
and you're not aware of that, I mean, you really
could be potentially hurting your body. And I know, I
know that I have people that I know in their
(14:51):
twenties who are not heavy, and how are they How
are they getting this they get? I mean, is there
I guess there's no rules if you if you just
say you really want it, you can get it. Because
I know a young woman who is scarily thin, scarily thin,
it does not make any sense she is she does
not need this. And there's like a boutique almost like
(15:14):
the same place you'd go to get your eyelashes done,
and they're giving out what they say, is an injection
of GLP one. I don't even know that they have
a medical license. How is that possible?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah, that it's not regulated well at the you know,
every state regulates their physicians and how they practice, and.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So you know you're you're going to get that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And there's also a black market of GOLP ones that
might be made in Mexico or China or you know,
and they say not for human use or only for
animal use. And yeah, and if it says that you
need to run, like, don't take things that are not
for human use, that.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Feels it's like a pretty natural reaction to run from that.
But maybe it's just that you'd want to be thin
so bad that you're like, I mean, I guess I
would also feel like, oh, they must have cleared it
for human use. It just still says that because it's
clearly here for me.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Right right, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I think it's more a matter if people are desperate,
they want to lose whatever amount of weight, and so
they're they're willing to accept things that's saying not for
human use or for research only. And once again, there's
no oversight as far as sterility or purity even if
(16:38):
it says purity on it, it doesn't matter if it
says not for human use, research only or animal use.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You know, stay away.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That is so scary when I was just thinking the
other day, when, yeah, when you know, when we were little,
you would watch all those movies that would find the
Fountain of Youth, and like they'd be searching their whole
the whole movie for the fountain of youth. And when
I was a kid, I thought that was just like, Oh,
these people just want to live forever, you know now
that I want I'm like, oh, no, I know what
they were looking for. They want to get rid of this,
(17:09):
and you want to get rid of this, and you know,
they wanted to look young again. But that's why we
make movies about it, because there is such a desire
to go back to grasp what you used to have.
I mean, I just saw a clip from that show
Shit's Creek where she's like, take pictures of yourself now naked,
because when you get old, to look back with much
(17:31):
kinder eyes. And I'm like, you know, that's not a lie,
I mean, but it is true. You look back and
you're like, I really look good. Then when I thought
I was fat because we're constantly looking for that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
My wife always says, you'll never look as good as
you do today as much as.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You criticize how you look today.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So but we always think that we can. There is
better and there's reasons we think that. I mean, you
look at just these these images and these video is
that recently came out of Oprah and to me Moore,
and they are they're very thin, and they look very young,
but they look like you could blow them over with
(18:10):
a feather. I mean, they looked very and I don't
know if that obviously I don't know their stories. So
people were saying, oh, this is a GLP one, but
can you get to the point where you're so thin
that you are shaking? I mean you can see they're
kind of tremors. They have kind of tremors as they're walking.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, I really worry when people get below a BMI
of twenty, what are you doing? But like you said,
it's that infatuation with being so thin. Obviously, we're about
being healthy and living your life at the highest level
is from a physiological standpoint, and that's an optimal weight
(18:52):
range with you know, if you need a GLP one Obviously,
there's a lot of microdosing working work going on today
in research on the inflammatory pathways and the addiction pathways,
cardioproductive pathways.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So many things going on.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So these drugs are peptides that are far beyond just
diabetes or weight loss. There's so many other long term benefits,
you know, not to put aside. Addition, the impulse you know,
reductions are great for gambling or narcotics or alcohol or cigarettes.
(19:34):
So many different things have research going on today. So
the GLP ones have really changed the landscape on so
many different therapies.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
No, okay, So that is interesting because I have heard
people and I just recently started hearing this maybe I'm
behind the times or something, where people are saying, you know,
you can knock GLP ones, but I was an alcoholic
and I'm totally cured, or I mean other addictions, even
weird things like the desire to gamble, Like it's is
(20:07):
that possible? Is it possible that a drug?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Get sure?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
In your brain?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
You have these mesolimbic and cortical pathways. Uh, and the
mesolimbic pathways are these to induced dope means spikes, meaning
I see a pizza, My dope means spikes.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I need to eat the pizza.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
So the golp ones drop that dope means spike, so
you don't have that drive to eat that pizza. And
that goes for uh, it appears for narcotics and alcohol
and tobacco and gambling and scrolling on your phone and
so many different things that you know.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So it's kind of that executive.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Control over impulse control, which we all want, but glp
ones appear early on to really impact these areas.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's very interesting because we see people on all of
these different medications to try to control those things in
just the I mean, what you're saying kind of reminds
me of that ad D mind where it's like I'm
gonna start this, I'm gonna move that, I'm going to
start this, I'm gonna move to that, and then you
get put on a stimulant, which I've never understood. I'm like,
(21:25):
why is the person who is like I should do
fourteen things at a time. Then it's like, let's make
that take that to the next level, which I guess
there's some medicine behind that. But when I hear about
what this does, what is the how do you know
a microdose, like I because this is not like you're
taking the full shot every day for this kind of stuff, right, yes, right,
(21:46):
how does that work?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
There's a lot of research going on in those areas,
but it kind of goes to the what happens when
I get to my goal weight?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Like can you just stop it?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And we know there's some weight regain if you you
know cold So some of our patients stay on the
same dose, some go to a very low amount, and
that seems to handle most patients. And you can call
it microdosing and call it whatever you want. Microdosing kind
of got trendy, but you're just going to a much
(22:19):
lower dose of the medicine, which with all these other
pathways and benefits, make sense. But it also seems to
help people maintain the weight loss. And there are certain
people and there are not many, that can go cold turkey.
They get there, they're fine, they're done, and they can
maintain that weight loss. And it does come back to
(22:40):
the hypothlamics set point that I was talking about earlier,
where you know, we have this and there's a lot
of research that has gone into this where the hypothalamus
is really the hunger center of our brain, and there's
a weight. You know, you could think of it as
a thermostat, where there's a weight where your body feels comfort.
(23:00):
Every time you try to go below it, you know
you can, you know, with sheer willpower do it for
a while, and then you go right back to that weight.
And that was before glp ones that actually lower the
set point. So glp ones are the first med and
they're peptides that can actually lower that set point, which
(23:23):
is why people are having long term weight loss with
glp ones, whereas before that nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I saw this thing on social
media the other day that I actually think was not true.
But you know, you read these things, you know, like
is this actually is this a true thing? I think
this is not a true thing, but it was, but
I want to ask you about it. It was a
(23:51):
celebrity who claimed that they couldn't get back to a
like they lost too much weight and then they couldn't
regulate their body even though they got off, they couldn't
regulate their body back.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That'd be hard to believe because once you get off
the g lp ones, you're going to have, you know,
some trending upwards, particularly if you're below your ideal weight,
your body's going to want to get back there. But
once again, you know there's anorexia, nervosa and other you know,
psychiatric diseases.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It could have played a role in that.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, that's you know, so many personal factors that
we don't know about that could have been involved.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
There is there anyone who is coming to you now
and saying I have this addiction and I want to
and they and you just start them at the microducing to.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Test that, oh addictions. Yeah, yes, there's there are a
lot of patients that you know, they have chronic disease,
like we're seeing patients that have different autoimmune diseases where
it really impacts or gets gets them off their other
(25:02):
meds and help sem control. So definitely there are patients
that you know, have alcohol problems or other problems that
we will try because the scii FI profile of the
GLP ones is so low and there is mounting biomarker
evidence and clinical evidence that they impact so many disease processes,
(25:26):
including addiction. The addiction the way we found that is
everybody was losing weight, but then they didn't really want
to drink alcohol anymore. They didn't have that drive to
Netflix and a bottle of wine every night.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So the you know, they.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Broke that weekly habit where they still you know, can
enjoy alcohol if they want to, but they don't have
that Q induced.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Drive to grab the bottle of wine.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Is it something that we already have in our systems?
I guess this is this? Does it replicate something natural?
Or how do how do some people have these issues
and some people don't.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
There's a lot of genetics and evolution that is involved.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
In all of our different you know.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Mental pathways of why are certain people overweight and certain
art And I always say it's genetics plus environment. I
mean people that we used to operate on families, and
you know, I'd operate on the husband wife.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
They'd lose one hundred and fifty pounds each.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
And I'd see the little ten year old one year
Christmas picture, he's way overweight. The next year's environment change
because they quit eating so bad. He's a thin guy now.
So so it's a combination of genetics and environment. And
I think this evolutionary dysregulation of all of our pathways
where I mean, think about it. Up until about one
(26:49):
hundred and hundred fifty years ago, there was no food.
I mean you were a hunter gatherer. You were always
in search of food. So our pathways were driving us
eat when you find food, eat. Well, the last fifty years,
there's food everywhere, and the ultra processed food industry has exploded.
So uh so these pathways just imploded and so patients
(27:15):
got you know, over the past fifty years, obesity has
just gone rampant.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
But what is the medication? Is it something that we
is it something totally foreign to our systems? This is
something we are sorry.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, So that's so.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Glp ones are something called increte ins and their their
gut derived hormones that have effects on the body. And
the big effect effects are they decrease your your insult
or they increase your instant decrease your blood glucose after
you eat, and they slow the stomach gastric emptying. And
(27:54):
they have all these impacts we're talked about on the
brain to decrease your set point, to decrease high drive.
And so the problem with our endogenous meaning the glp
ones in our body, are they only last a minute
because they have this enzyme DPP four that breaks it down. Well,
(28:16):
we've been able to engineer the new GLP ones where
they last a week now, not just a minute one
to two minutes. They last an entire week. The half
flights like five days. So now these encretings can have
all these impacts all day, every day instead of just
(28:38):
after eating.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Interesting, all right, So the last thing I want to
ask you. You mentioned autoimmune disorders, is that, like crones
and things like that, is this improving those disorders?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Rheumatoid arth writ is crones different? And once again there's
no long term clinical research. There's just the biomar animal
studies and shorter term studies. But we're finding in clinical
practice that it does improve people's health and getting some
people off off their medicines or on lower medicines and
(29:14):
improving their symptoms. So there are a lot of kind
of chronic di these processes that we've been treating forever
in our you know, like I said, our disease treatment
healthcare system, that we might be able to impact kind
of at a inflammatory basic level.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Interesting, Actually I said that was my last question. But
what are the side effects, like, what are the bad
things that can happen because I know a lot of
people get on it and they don't know what they're experiencing.
I've heard I've heard constipation, I've heard diarrhea, I've heard
all kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
There's there's kind of short term and long term, and
we're kind of talking about the long term, you know,
the loss of muscle mass, loss of bone density, which
is why we really stress nutrition, protein and resistance training.
That's kind of long term. But the short term that
people feel, you know, in the first you know, week
(30:12):
of taking therapy or the GI symptoms and they're somewhat
self limited, but one can be nausea, and once again
we kind of talk about this yellow zone, green zone,
red zone concept where if your dose is too high,
you're in this red zone where you're getting nausea, really
bad heartburn, and you just need to drop the dose down.
(30:35):
Usually on those symptoms, but diarrhea and constipation or other
symptoms that patients will have and they're usually self limiting
and over time you resolve, They resolve. Patients accommodate to
those symptoms. But it's that first one to two months
where you're trying to get in the right dosing range
(30:59):
and tolerate the medicine before you you know, if you
can make it through one to two months, patients seem
to have really good results.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It took the first month that they really have challenges.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Great. Great, So people want to know how to find
out more. If they go to your era, they go
to your site. Is that something that you can go
from any state from any place? Is that like local
or how does that work?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah? Your era dot com.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
We're national, We're able to provide care in all fifty states,
and we're will provide information and oversight. Once again, our
goal is to empower people with the knowledge to optimize
their health, lose your weight, but lose it in a
healthy way and maintain it long term.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Wonderful. Thank you so much. This has been very informative,
so anybody who wants to go there check it out.
Doctor Tom Levin, thank you so much for being on today.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Thanks Tutor, it was my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
And thank you all for joining us the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
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