On this episode of The Tudor Dixon Podcast, Tudor is joined by Hot Mics host Billy Bush for a wide-ranging conversation on the state of California politics, election integrity, and the surprising rise of Spencer Pratt's mayoral campaign.
Billy shares his firsthand perspective on Los Angeles politics, ballot harvesting, voter mobilization, and why Spencer Pratt’s unconventional campaign resonated with voters despite facing an entrenched political establishment. The discussion explores California's election system, Gavin Newsom’s political influence, the role of Hollywood in shaping public opinion, and the challenges facing outsiders who attempt to disrupt the status quo.
Tudor and Billy also dive into the evolution of public figures, media double standards, Donald Trump’s political resilience, the future of the Republican Party, and whether voters are beginning to reject traditional political machines. Plus, they discuss the importance of public service, leadership, and why both California and Michigan remain critical battlegrounds for America’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. This is a fun one.
We are talking about California and then we're going to
talk all kinds of historical political scandals, all kinds of things.
We've got Billy Bush here. It's gonna be so much fun.
But just a minute first, I want to pause, and
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Now let's get into this show. It's the Tutor Dixon
Podcast with Billy Bush. Billy, thank you so much for
joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Tutor Dixon and maybe the greatest name. I love the
name Tutor Dixon. How did you get tutor. That's such
a cool name.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's so funny. My mom was gonna absolutely love that.
My mom was like a big English history nut and
she named me tutor and people were like, what is
even that name? And then it just matched my when
I got married, Tutor Dixon just matched so well. I
can remember when I worked in me manufacturing, there was
one guy that used to just say my name when
I would call, and he was in New Yorker. He's
like Tuta Dixon, Tuda Dixon. I'm like, that's so funny.
(02:07):
It sounds really different without the art.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I just love it. I just wanted to compliment you
under amazing name.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Thank you. I appreciate that well. I would like to
compliment you on your state. But we are sad about
what happened to Spencer.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah. Look, I mean, first, you got to be totally
impressed that he got to where he got, which was unthinkable.
It is maybe encouraging for the future, but you know,
the guy walked into a deeply entrenched system in Los Angeles,
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the city of Los Angeles, that is unbreakable, and managed
to come out in second place on election night. What
happened after that is where not only Los Angele, but
the whole state of California is so twisted it's it's unbelievable.
It just it just gives you no faith in the
election system, the way they do things here. But Spencer,
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you know, I know him very well, had him on
hot mics with me and known him from the very beginning.
I used to be the host of Access Hollywood. So
when he was running around pulling his Shenanigans on the
hills and messing with Papa Rozzi and I had him
on speed dial, he was he was he was a
lot of fun. He grew up into a into a
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man with a mission, with a purpose, and it was
fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I know, I like that because I saw you say,
is he not allowed to evolve? Everyone's allowed to evolve.
And that's why that was one of the hits against
him was that he was like kind of this wild
playboy reality TV show star. And I think all of
us have some things in our past that you grow
you get to grow up, and then if you look
at any elected official, they've grown up. They did things
(04:01):
when they were young. But I think what he did,
being in Hollywood the way he was probably gave him
more insight than people were willing to admit. I do
want to say, you did a video which I thought
was hilarious but hilarious and sad at the same time.
It was like harvest season where you had all the
ballots that were out planted and you talked about they
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plant them and then they harvest them.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Season in LA in California, harvesting ballots, Yeah, your shit
workers in the field were normally where there'd be no
picking poppy seas or you know, avocados, and of course
it's ballots that they're harvesting. It's it's it's gotta love
the AI. We make some of those, that's what we
(04:44):
call it Hot Mike's Studios and make little silly things,
but it really does paint a picture is exactly what
happens in this state. And that's why it's all. You know,
it's like mafia style organization that gets you where you got.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That's what you said. You talked about it being more
organization than actually what people are feeling.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And action and purposed and rallying behind the candidate and
a mission and a cause. It's just you. You can
do that and think you're in a good place, but
you get you get out harvested, you get out hustled,
you get out organized. And all these you know, all
these NGOs and all these activist organizations, you know Asian
(05:27):
Americans for the equal balance of what I mean, I
don't know. There's a million of them, and every one
of them is getting a kick back and getting something
and they organize and you got the unions are very
very powerful in California and especially in Los Angeles, and
you know they'll they'll they'll spend big money on the
campaigns that they know for the eviduals they want elected,
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and they mobilize, you know, they mobilize volunteers like you wouldn't,
you know, and armies and armies of people.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But to your point, to your point, Spencer getting where
how far he got was incredible in that system, and
to me, that shows that people are waking up, there
are more people involved. It's almost impossible to actually win
the way it is. And that's why somebody on the
Republican or even the independent side, which I think Spencer
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was more just maybe just slightly right of center. I
think he was more of a centrist. That's why it's
so important for somebody in that position to actually win
and change these laws. In most states, you can't do
what California did, and you've talked about this. In twenty sixteen,
they changed it over so that you could actually harvest votes,
and you can harvest anybody's vote. And so we've seen
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the videos of people going out on skid row and
saying did you get paid for your vote? And you
think about it, like we do this when we organize,
we go, Okay, if we were to reach every person,
how much would it cost to reach every person with
this ad or with this or with that, but they're
actually talking about how much does it cost to pick
up a ballot? How much does a vote cost? And
I was shocked to hear that people are selling the
(07:04):
votes for two and three.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Dollars, Yeah, and a couple of cigarettes. Uh yeah, that's
that's that's it's you saw the Justice Department, you know
that woman, she's more of a register. You know. Look,
I I want to say in fair in fairness, it's
not fairness, but I look, I spoke to a very
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high powered Republican election lawyer, Republican election lawyer, and she
told me it's mostly about voter registration. You know, all
the hustle to do down there. It not a mass
not They don't all translate into ballots, cast votes, cast
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for you know that. They're they're about building these organizations,
these these giant databases. So was it enough, you know,
where there's so many ballots Harpstead and and and voters
coerced that that's what actually made the difference, because you hear,
you know, why is it the Democrats and socialists and
(08:13):
young activist type left leaning people tend to vote in
the end, Why do they all show up on election
day and dump their votes and drop their friends votes
into these bins. Well they just do. They sit and
they watch in they game, and they're more engaged in
this town. So I was told, and I believe it.
(08:36):
It wasn't enough to actually swing. Probably Spencer probably would
have lost anyway if there wasn't And of course there's
some there's some fraud, but anything that's large, behemoth, like
you know, has fraud in it. There's no way it's perfect.
But I don't know that it would have been enough
(08:56):
for him. The best thing that he did was wake
people up to the system. We get to look underneath
the hood and see how this is done. And more
people understand the California Los Angeles election system and they're horrified,
(09:17):
but they didn't know. So that that's what makes that
his his entry to martyrdom is because of.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That right right. Well, to a certain extent, it also
opens our eyes in other states that if this is
the type of system, because they do a really good
job of making it sound beautiful, this is going to
allow everybody to vote, This is going to make sure
that everybody's voice is heard. It's a manipulation, but he
was up against so much in LA I thought it
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was unique for us to watch outside of California because
we saw the creativity of LA, which is what we
all love about California. California is such a beautiful state
and historically California has been the state that has taken
us out of our lives to amazing places through movies,
through stories, and his campaign was like that. You know,
(10:06):
we saw these crazy videos that we were like, that
is incredible what the creativity of LA is. But we
also saw some of the ugly, and I would say,
in Jimmy Kimmel that was some of the ugliest. And
then he just recently posted or he just recently on
his show talked about how he rented a U Haul
for Spencer Pratt to leave LA, which is so nasty,
(10:29):
considering Spencer Pratt doesn't have anything left in LA because
his house burned down.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He clapped back at Jimmy. He said, Jimmy, you obviously
haven't been paying attention. I have nothing to put in
the U haule. It's all burned down. I have. I
have taken issue with Jimmy on a few occasions. Listen,
I'm a centrist guy myself, you know, I call myself
a radical centrist. I just vote based upon my own values,
(11:00):
my own my own code. They tend to probably go
to the right. But because there's way more sanity. What
youre's the insanity that I see, especially on the left
coast here is it seemed even Bill Maher has gone
running away from from the establishment. But Jimmy Kimmel, like
you mentioned it earlier, evolution, like aren't we old? Don't
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we want to encourage a society where our kids are
allowed to fall on their faces and make a mistake
and get back up and become something else and you know,
be better and raise a family and then have you
changed their views and whatever. It's it's like, it's it's
growing up. It's evolution. And Jimmy was on The Man's Show,
(11:44):
you know, he and Adam Carolla, who I love. Corolla
is a friend.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
They should do a show now because there's still one's
right when ones left, they would they would be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
But they did The Man Show, which you know, Jimmy's
like behind women, you know, fake humming and dry humping
them while they're on the street and the woman doesn't know,
and you know, all kinds of just like what would
be called very sexist and misogynist stuff. And you know,
even though people are laughing, it was silly frat boy Jimmy.
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In the same show he did blackface skitslit black body.
He had the whole body painted, the famous Karl Malone
skits that he would do. Jimmy then gets to grow
up and become you know, one of the great bastions
of the liberal elite media, a Peabody winner for the
Love of God recently, and he gets to do that.
(12:37):
But Spencer Pratt can't. He has to remain the dope,
you know, villain kid from the hills. He can't get
married and have children and watch his home burned down
and become an activist and oh sorry, exactly like Barack Obama.
On the ballot it says community organizer next to his name,
(12:57):
just like Barack. But he can't become a responsible guy
that wants to make a change. And you can, like,
what the hell, well.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Right, I mean, obviously there's if we believe that if
the left didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards
at all. Because if you look at the way Jimmy's career,
I mean, what you just laid out was beautiful of
Jimmy's career. But also if you look at how elections
have evolved, we have everybody screaming that Trump is a Nazi.
He can't possibly get elected. He's got all of the
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you know, they they took him to court, they got
him convicted of a felony, all of these types of
different things. And then here comes in Graham Platner from
Maine legitimately has a Nazi tattoo. He has all these accusations.
I see one of the I think it's like one
of the co founders of Me Too the other night,
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and she's like, this is different. These don't These don't
come to the standards of me too allegations because me
Too is generally a boss and an employee. Well, I
didn't know. I didn't know me Too had rule. This
is the first time I'm hearing this.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, no, no, it's it's these are the there's different
levels of groping and his are just his are fine.
It's funny, my brother, they're still tallying, you know. But
he was second place running for governor of Maine for
the Republican primary, so he knows the Platner situation. Well,
(14:24):
we all do, but most importantly, when people like comment
on it different Democrat leaders, you know that everything is
about that fight in the Senate for the majority. And
so now all the people who would vilify it if
it were the other way, you know, say about Platner,
Well you know this is this is really for the
(14:45):
people Maine to decide. That's the way you can punt it.
Punt the issue away, because of course they you know,
the guy in favorability polls, he's up on Susan Collins,
the chair of the Appropriations Committee, an actually powerful person
from your small state of Maine of one point three
seven five million residents. You know you're gonna you're gonna
(15:08):
kick her for an oyster farmer who has Nazi tattoos
and is a total dirt bag. Sure, and by the way,
not the not the blue collar guy. I think he
went to Hotchkiss, which is one of the funnest prep schools. Yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll.
You said, they'd have no standards if it weren't for
the double standards. There you go, that's a man to them.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean, that's the funny part is they're like, how
can we find an actual man? This must be a man,
this must be what people women and men. I think
what it is is they're trying to find how to
get men back into their party, and they're like, we
can can we can control men and bring men back
if we choose a man, and this is a man
that they will like. They legitimately do not understand the
(15:55):
nuances of how to talk to people anymore, how to
connect with people. And I'm honestly, I mean, it is
disturbing to me that Platner has had this ability to
get to connect. It's funny to me because I somehow
made the mistake of downloading this meta business suite app
on my phone. And apparently when you download this, if
you don't shut off the notifications, you get every comment
(16:18):
that ever comes on your social media like comes up
on my phone. So I was like, oh my, this
just happened in the last couple of days. And I
was like, oh, these comments are so horrible. I don't
read all of these comments, right, So wake up this morning.
I'm like, I got to figure out how to turn
this off. I wake up this morning. The first one
is Trump said he wanted to grab women by the pussy,
(16:39):
and you're worried about grand Platiner and I was like,
this is funny because I'm interviewing someone today that it
actually knows that whole story, you know. And I was like,
but that seemed like the beginning. And it was a
moment this is stupid, But it was a moment where
I remember exactly where I was when they announced this
on the radio, that oh, we've got this tape that's
(16:59):
going to take Trump down, and I was getting gas
and I remember thinking, this is going to be bad.
Hillary Clinton is going to be the next president and
she's going to be a nightmare. And I do think
there was a moment where people said, we are sick
and tired of them trying to pull out a gotcha
from years ago. That was and to me, a lot
(17:20):
of people were right about that moment. That was like
nobody thought anybody who was listening, it was just guys
being guys. This is not that, This.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Is not that. Listen. I always say, it's Trump being Trump.
I mean when I spent a lot of time with him,
more than anybody, because I was the head of NBC,
you know, entertainment basically the top entertainment guy, and The
Prentice had just come out the year before, and it
was the biggest thing ever. And you know, so I
was with him through the launch of that whole thing
(17:48):
when he you know, so three days a week if
you will. But you know, whenever we were together, it
was it's his favorite topics are golf and and it
was it wasn't golf day, so you know, and he yeah,
he's just he's just like that. I love him Allennia
(18:09):
and says really was egging him on. No, he doesn't
need any egging on, Millennia and you know that. Uh,
but yeah, like this, here we go. This is the outrage.
The outrage. The outrage was like, do everything you can
weaponize this thing, NBC News, My employer leaks that tape
out themselves to the Washington Post to weaponize it. This
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is going to be the thing, the one this will
finally take him down. And then he does one of
the most deft moves you could ever make. I don't
know who gave him the line or if he just
happens into these things. He said to Hillary. Bill Clinton
said worse to me on a golf course. I'll never
(18:55):
forget that line. And just like that, Hillary when.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Hit and everybody knew, Yeah, there's a lot of believability
in that like dirty Bill, like hello, and the one
thing she had to weaponize and destroy him, he turned
around and stuck in her face and neutralized paralyzed her.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well he is he is the ultimate show aunt. Do
you remember when they had the debate and he had
all of Bill's accusers lined up in the front row.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I was the same debate genius, I mean genius. They
turned it around, and I mean that was just imagine
imagine Hillary like, are you kidding me? And you know,
underneath it all, I always have this idea that she
really actually hates Bill. She's just like speak. We were
a team forever, you know, from Yale law school. We're
a team. We're going to make a powerful political broker,
(19:49):
you know, team. And now it's you do you?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And I support you? And then it's me, me do me?
And then she's said no. And I think underneath it all,
I get into the psychology of it all. And I
think you were a s Collogy major in college at
Kansas was it so Tutor Dixon psychology major?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You will know that.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I think underneath and all, Bill was thinking, hmm, how
about in the end of the day, just one of
us was president and it was me, Okay, how about
my wife isn't also president? And she's saying, Bill, why
does it happened? Every time I'm about to get something
something from me, you gotta do something stupid. You gotta
(20:29):
go swimming around in a hot tub at Epstein's, you
know place with a bunch of girls. You gotta go,
and you got a Lewinsky, this thing that they'll weaponize forever.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I mean, it's just it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
The beautiful thing about their marriage prison though, is that
they had to stay together. There was no option for
her now too.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's like, but I man, I leave him now after
I've lost everything. No, I'm stubborn. I'm gonna finish this
damn thing exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
But he is like a corpse. I mean you know
that she torch him until the end of time like that.
His life has been miserable. The last good day he
had was with Monica under that desk.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh, and what a day. He wasn't going upstairs. Yeah,
when he got him, When he got upstairs, it was
nothing but.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Ice, for sure. Yes, And it's been nothing but ice
ever since. I mean, he you stand hit. He and
Trump are the same age, So why I we have
younger people in our office, and they were talking about,
oh my gosh, Bill Clinton's so old, you know, because
for them he wasn't in office. They didn't know him,
like I grew up with him, right, So I go,
he's the same age as Trump. And they're like, what,
(21:40):
he's a walking corpse? How can he be this? And
he seems slow. He seems like he has been whipped
by her every day ever since, like that man has
been punished good.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'll remember Bill Clinton. I remember back in the day.
I don't know if you're you're a little younger than maybe,
but they're a lot longer than me. Hey, in number,
Bill Clinton was visiting Greg Norman, the professional golfer, down
in Jupiter, Florida, And there was some weekend where like
Bill went in on a Friday and he came out
(22:15):
on crutches on a Sunday. I was like, huh. And
he never explained what happened. He's like, you know, on
the staircase, he kind of slipped or whatever. You know.
There were ladies running around that place, and Bubba was
just in his element, just going crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I mean, but the funny thing is they act like
you know, it's like when Madison Cawthorine got caught hooking
up with chicks and people are like, oh my gosh,
this little punk is hooking up with chicks in Washington,
and you're like, this is not new. We just know
a lot more social media exists. The idea that this
whole like scandal in Washington that everybody is a pervert
(22:55):
is new. I'm like, this is not new. I mean,
we have somebody in Michigan who used to work in Washington,
and an older guy talks about those days about prostitutes
and everything like as though that was just okay and
there's no there's there becomes a blurred line where there's
(23:15):
there's no values or stopping any of that.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, so this guy refers to it as the good
old days, like back up God.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, Like we were in power, so why shouldn't we
get whatever we wanted? And that is whether it's women
or drugs or partying, it was those all those things
all went along with power, which is why I like
full circle here when you look at how they changed
voting in California. Power is so intoxicating for people.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, yeah, there's no My brother and I like my
brother Jonathan, who ran for a governor of Maine. He
there isn't a brighter, smarter, higher man of integrity that
I know in in my life. He's incredible, just totally honest,
(24:05):
total transparent. He's the guy that would, you know, lay
out the books and you know, here's here's the money,
and and here where it's going, and here's where the
failure whatever happened? Why does politics breed duplicity? And I
know amazing to me, like why is it, of all things,
why is it a draw for bad people? I don't
understand this. It should be for good people like that.
(24:26):
Where are the public servants who say I want to
do this because I want to make life better for
the people around me? What happened to them?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's so funny because so this is what I'm glad
you're saying this, because I was so naive when I
ran for office because I thought people I felt like
congressmen were these statesmen, they were next level. This was
like the cream of the crop person right, And I
thought people who ran for office were doing it because
they genuinely were, like I see a need that I
(24:54):
hope I can make this better for the people I
would work for. But I have found out there there
is so much to being in Congress or Senate. They
get these free trips. They go all around the world.
They're treated to fancy dinners every night. It is a
power trip and it's.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So part of me information stockstrated.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yes, exactly, you you could be.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I love the guy that's like a congressman from like
the thirty third. No one's ever heard of this guy,
like Larry Bonia, like some kind of guy. Never heard
of it. And it's like sixteen million dollars over the
last two years on his one hundred and eighty thousand
dollars salary or something, I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And he's thrilled that no one knows who he is.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, Oh, Larry's just quietly like I don't need Fox
News calls. We're looking for no, no, no, no, no,
I just I keep right here.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
How about. It's like there's a co there's I think
there's like two missing congressmen right now, like one woman
is running and some guy they're obviously running for reelection.
They're like we have not seen them in months, and
people are not freaking this is not national news. How
can there be they just haven't shown up for votes.
They're not campaigning. Remember a few years ago there was
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one that they found in a nursing home running for reelection.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yes, in Texas.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I think it was like this is how is this possible?
It just blows my mind that we are not paying
more attention to who is running for office and you don't.
I mean, it really is a money game. It's like
whoever can convince people to give them the most money.
But Democrats are kind of like chosen, They're groomed. They
like bring them up from city council and they're like, oh,
(26:32):
this is a good one. It says what we want.
Let's continue to push money its way and see if
it can become bigger. And then they just amass. It's
like pig pen, you know, like their's stint gets bigger
over time and all their money and then they glom
on to them and they go, Okay, this is the person.
And they always turn bad. Like talk about hot mics.
(26:52):
Just the other day, Whitmer, Gretchen Whitmer, who's the governor
of Michigan, and she has a great approval rating. She's
like got sixty percent approval rating and everybody loved her.
This is a big story in Michigan. She went and
did this ribbon cutting for a data center and people
they started to go, oh my gosh, you're not an environmentalist,
like you're turning on us. This is no good. And
(27:13):
then she was caught on a hot mic, so you
will like this. She was caught on a hot mic
and the CEO of one of these big data companies
or tech companies said to her something like, how do
you get away with this? She was like, the people
say f no, and then once we get in, we
do whatever we want. Oh boy, that's how they are.
But she acts like she loves the people. I mean,
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they're really good at manipulating.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
How did she get herself out of that?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Was?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
This just happened. It just happened. So I don't think
she's out of it.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
She hasn't thought of it yet. She hasn't thought of it.
Like she's like, no, that won't work.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
She was going to put a blue folder in front
of her face, but that didn't help.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh oh my god. Wow. If she can get out
of this, if she stays, it's you know what, she's
got to study from the master. She got to study
trying and he'll when like that go from sixty to
sixty two, although he hasn't seen sixty a very long time. Right, Yeah,
(28:09):
I will say this. Look, we're talking about people in office,
Tutor Dixon, she of the great name. My uncle was
George H. W. Bush, and he ran for office. Every
bit of his political career was motivated by the lives
he lost when he was a pilot, the youngest naval
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fighter pilot in the history of the Navy, when he
was shot down in the Pacific and the two men
in his plane did not make it, and he did,
and he wondered, for how is it? Why am I here?
How do I make it? And these two die and
he carried them with him forever. And it was the
impetus for his public service career to give back, to
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make other people's lives as best you can better. And
that was what motivated him. It wasn't money, it wasn't
all these things. He wasn't grifting on the job. He
never did anything like that. And he even sacrificed his reelection.
He went back on his pledge of no new taxes
because he felt terrible about the national deficit being eighty
(29:21):
seven billion dollars. Imagine that he felt bad about it then,
and so he reversed and handed a surplus to Bill Clinton. Lost,
knew he'd lose, knew Clinton would whipponize it against him,
and knew it was political suicide, but he didn't care.
He felt like it was the right thing to do,
and so he hands Clinton it was enhanced Clinton the
(29:45):
only surplus we've ever known. And Clinton goes on and
rides that and amazingly talk about character. They became friends
or you know, functioning friendship later. But that type of
public service and that type I mean that just you'll
never ever ever see it again ever.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But I'm going to push back your brother, Rand. There
are still people that are out there doing the right thing,
and I believe, I believe this country is great and
those people will find a way good to get through,
get through the bs.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Good good. While what are you going to run again?
You did a great job, you only lost by ten point.
The whitmer.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I will say that I feel like Michigan has we
have some work to do with infrastructure, but I think
there's an opportunity and I'm never rolling it out and
I'm working to make sure that people can good people
can get elected here. And my story is not is
not different than that story of the person who wants
to do it because we had a steel foundry. We
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had a steel foundry in Michigan. I watched all of
the regulations and overregulations crush this foundry year after year,
and finally my dad closed it. Three hund jobs got
taken away from this area because there's no way to
push forward. And I said, we can do better. We
can do better for manufacturers, and I believe that there
are enough people out there that feel that way. We
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will get good people back into office, and maybe someday
that's me. And if it's not me, I will work
to get good people in, just like you work to
get good people in and and Michigan will become great
again and America will be great. And I do believe
that that's the future. And I'm excited about our two
hundred and fiftieth birthday and I see good things for
us so and I appreciate what you do to keep
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people informed of what's happening.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, can you harvest ballots in Michigan?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
No? No, I think it's you and maybe Nevada. I
feel like there's only two states where you can do it.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The answer is out harvest. Okay. So if you're going
to you know, run as an anti establishment can an
outside candidate, you just have to out harvest. Those are
the rules. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta play by the rules.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Then the opposition, and then when you get to power
or do the right thing and change it. I say,
what about an election day? How about an election week? Yeah?
How about a week? Okay, go to the polls, participate
in your country or democracy employers, you got a week
in order to find so and so, a half a
day off to go and vote and do it. And
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if you've got them, of course you make you know,
room for those who are ill or infirmed. But it's
somebody that's back to pre twenty sixteen. You know, somebody
that is a family member or you know, directly connected,
not a campaign worker, a volunteer, you know, a college kid,
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you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
And if you can get Steve Hilton in, maybe you
can change that law. And then you do go back
to the way you used to do it. Who knows,
I mean, if it doesn't change, I say, next cycle,
we come out and help you get good people through
the primary. We help you ballot harvest and we kept win.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
The harvest is a plenty. Come to California and the
harvest season.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yes, we will all help because I hate to tell
you this, but you're like a rot on the rest
of the country. When you do this, it affects the
rest of us because you're you're very powerful. California is
very powerful and your leaders are very powerful, and that
rubs off on everybody else. So we will help.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Gavin Newsom is really the one. He is a He
is a handsome toll like mafia capo. Who who really
put this in overdrive? When you know in May of
twenty twenty two months into COVID, he saw a beautiful opportunity.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Do I hate that he's good looking?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Story mail, mandatory mail and vote he because we have
to keep people safe at home. He probably hatched it
at the French laundry while he was sipping a lovelyss
yard in May and he said, Okay, all ballots we
must mail to every single citizen in California and never
turned back. COVID's long gone, but now we mandatory mail
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a month ahead. Everyone gets a ballot.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It's incredible And if only you had JB. Pricksker we
wouldn't have to think about it like he would, because
he would never. JB is so unattractive that he has
no chance of becoming president. But Gavin Newsom is attractive,
and that is a terrible thing for a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
He's attractive. But Obama was attractive. He's got that Kennedy
as One thing Democrats are very they're stuck on is hot.
They love their identity politics, and they love anything that
stink that that is a whiff of the Kennedys. Yes,
he's got that handsome sort of swagger.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You have hot you have hot men, but you don't
have hot women like Democrats. They have hot men, they
don't have We Republicans are I think we have attractive
pe people and this is like, this is Donald Trump conversation.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You're a better looking party. I agree with that. Yeah, No,
I agree with that. On the whole. Democrats are less attractive.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
All right, It's true. I mean I think it's a
happiness thing. I think it's like you get married, you
have kids, you have you have a goal in life
to have this beautiful family, and it's just happiness. Because
I think that Democrats don't have to be as unattractive
as they are, many of them make themselves more unattractive.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Obama was handsome, he ed swagger, no question, You're right
the men, but yeah, I mean the women, not a chance.
Did you have you seen our first lady? Hello?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I know? Why does she not get credit for being
smoking hot? So unaffair? It's so unfair. I'm like, I mean,
and I'm not. Jill's a beautiful woman. She I will
give her that, but come on, can we please let
Melania have a little bit of credit for also being beautiful?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Oh? Not even in the same league. I mean, this
is just unheard of. So nice. We had her twice,
which brought her back and wasn't had nothing to do
with him?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yes, exactly, exactly exactly. All right, Well I've kept you
too long. Billy Bush, thank you so much for being
on the podcast. It was really fun.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Tutor Dixon, what a great name. I hope you run again.
Thanks for having me, Thank.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You, and thank you all for listening. As always, you
can get it wherever you get your podcast. You can
watch on Rumble or YouTube, but just join us next
time and share it. Have a blessed day. Thank you.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. This is a fun one.
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Now let's get into this show. It's the Tutor Dixon
Podcast with Billy Bush. Billy, thank you so much for
joining me.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Tutor Dixon and maybe the greatest name. I love the
name Tutor Dixon. How did you get tutor. That's such
a cool name.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's so funny. My mom was gonna absolutely love that.
My mom was like a big English history nut and
she named me tutor and people were like, what is
even that name? And then it just matched my when
I got married, Tutor Dixon just matched so well. I
can remember when I worked in me manufacturing, there was
one guy that used to just say my name when
I would call, and he was in New Yorker. He's
like Tuta Dixon, Tuda Dixon. I'm like, that's so funny.
(02:07):
It sounds really different without the art.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I just love it. I just wanted to compliment you
under amazing name.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Thank you. I appreciate that well. I would like to
compliment you on your state. But we are sad about
what happened to Spencer.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah. Look, I mean, first, you got to be totally
impressed that he got to where he got, which was unthinkable.
It is maybe encouraging for the future, but you know,
the guy walked into a deeply entrenched system in Los Angeles,
(02:49):
the city of Los Angeles, that is unbreakable, and managed
to come out in second place on election night. What
happened after that is where not only Los Angele, but
the whole state of California is so twisted it's it's unbelievable.
It just it just gives you no faith in the
election system, the way they do things here. But Spencer,
(03:12):
you know, I know him very well, had him on
hot mics with me and known him from the very beginning.
I used to be the host of Access Hollywood. So
when he was running around pulling his Shenanigans on the
hills and messing with Papa Rozzi and I had him
on speed dial, he was he was he was a
lot of fun. He grew up into a into a
(03:33):
man with a mission, with a purpose, and it was
fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I know, I like that because I saw you say,
is he not allowed to evolve? Everyone's allowed to evolve.
And that's why that was one of the hits against
him was that he was like kind of this wild
playboy reality TV show star. And I think all of
us have some things in our past that you grow
you get to grow up, and then if you look
at any elected official, they've grown up. They did things
(04:01):
when they were young. But I think what he did,
being in Hollywood the way he was probably gave him
more insight than people were willing to admit. I do
want to say, you did a video which I thought
was hilarious but hilarious and sad at the same time.
It was like harvest season where you had all the
ballots that were out planted and you talked about they
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plant them and then they harvest them.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Season in LA in California, harvesting ballots, Yeah, your shit
workers in the field were normally where there'd be no
picking poppy seas or you know, avocados, and of course
it's ballots that they're harvesting. It's it's it's gotta love
the AI. We make some of those, that's what we
(04:44):
call it Hot Mike's Studios and make little silly things,
but it really does paint a picture is exactly what
happens in this state. And that's why it's all. You know,
it's like mafia style organization that gets you where you got.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That's what you said. You talked about it being more
organization than actually what people are feeling.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And action and purposed and rallying behind the candidate and
a mission and a cause. It's just you. You can
do that and think you're in a good place, but
you get you get out harvested, you get out hustled,
you get out organized. And all these you know, all
these NGOs and all these activist organizations, you know Asian
(05:27):
Americans for the equal balance of what I mean, I
don't know. There's a million of them, and every one
of them is getting a kick back and getting something
and they organize and you got the unions are very
very powerful in California and especially in Los Angeles, and
you know they'll they'll they'll spend big money on the
campaigns that they know for the eviduals they want elected,
(05:51):
and they mobilize, you know, they mobilize volunteers like you wouldn't,
you know, and armies and armies of people.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But to your point, to your point, Spencer getting where
how far he got was incredible in that system, and
to me, that shows that people are waking up, there
are more people involved. It's almost impossible to actually win
the way it is. And that's why somebody on the
Republican or even the independent side, which I think Spencer
(06:20):
was more just maybe just slightly right of center. I
think he was more of a centrist. That's why it's
so important for somebody in that position to actually win
and change these laws. In most states, you can't do
what California did, and you've talked about this. In twenty sixteen,
they changed it over so that you could actually harvest votes,
and you can harvest anybody's vote. And so we've seen
(06:42):
the videos of people going out on skid row and
saying did you get paid for your vote? And you
think about it, like we do this when we organize,
we go, Okay, if we were to reach every person,
how much would it cost to reach every person with
this ad or with this or with that, but they're
actually talking about how much does it cost to pick
up a ballot? How much does a vote cost? And
I was shocked to hear that people are selling the
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votes for two and three.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Dollars, Yeah, and a couple of cigarettes. Uh yeah, that's
that's that's it's you saw the Justice Department, you know
that woman, she's more of a register. You know. Look,
I I want to say in fair in fairness, it's
not fairness, but I look, I spoke to a very
(07:27):
high powered Republican election lawyer, Republican election lawyer, and she
told me it's mostly about voter registration. You know, all
the hustle to do down there. It not a mass
not They don't all translate into ballots, cast votes, cast
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for you know that. They're they're about building these organizations,
these these giant databases. So was it enough, you know,
where there's so many ballots Harpstead and and and voters
coerced that that's what actually made the difference, because you hear,
you know, why is it the Democrats and socialists and
(08:13):
young activist type left leaning people tend to vote in
the end, Why do they all show up on election
day and dump their votes and drop their friends votes
into these bins. Well they just do. They sit and
they watch in they game, and they're more engaged in
this town. So I was told, and I believe it.
(08:36):
It wasn't enough to actually swing. Probably Spencer probably would
have lost anyway if there wasn't And of course there's
some there's some fraud, but anything that's large, behemoth, like
you know, has fraud in it. There's no way it's perfect.
But I don't know that it would have been enough
(08:56):
for him. The best thing that he did was wake
people up to the system. We get to look underneath
the hood and see how this is done. And more
people understand the California Los Angeles election system and they're horrified,
(09:17):
but they didn't know. So that that's what makes that
his his entry to martyrdom is because of.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
That right right. Well, to a certain extent, it also
opens our eyes in other states that if this is
the type of system, because they do a really good
job of making it sound beautiful, this is going to
allow everybody to vote, This is going to make sure
that everybody's voice is heard. It's a manipulation, but he
was up against so much in LA I thought it
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was unique for us to watch outside of California because
we saw the creativity of LA, which is what we
all love about California. California is such a beautiful state
and historically California has been the state that has taken
us out of our lives to amazing places through movies,
through stories, and his campaign was like that. You know,
(10:06):
we saw these crazy videos that we were like, that
is incredible what the creativity of LA is. But we
also saw some of the ugly, and I would say,
in Jimmy Kimmel that was some of the ugliest. And
then he just recently posted or he just recently on
his show talked about how he rented a U Haul
for Spencer Pratt to leave LA, which is so nasty,
(10:29):
considering Spencer Pratt doesn't have anything left in LA because
his house burned down.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He clapped back at Jimmy. He said, Jimmy, you obviously
haven't been paying attention. I have nothing to put in
the U haule. It's all burned down. I have. I
have taken issue with Jimmy on a few occasions. Listen,
I'm a centrist guy myself, you know, I call myself
a radical centrist. I just vote based upon my own values,
(11:00):
my own my own code. They tend to probably go
to the right. But because there's way more sanity. What
youre's the insanity that I see, especially on the left
coast here is it seemed even Bill Maher has gone
running away from from the establishment. But Jimmy Kimmel, like
you mentioned it earlier, evolution, like aren't we old? Don't
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we want to encourage a society where our kids are
allowed to fall on their faces and make a mistake
and get back up and become something else and you know,
be better and raise a family and then have you
changed their views and whatever. It's it's like, it's it's
growing up. It's evolution. And Jimmy was on The Man's Show,
(11:44):
you know, he and Adam Carolla, who I love. Corolla
is a friend.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
They should do a show now because there's still one's
right when ones left, they would they would be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
But they did The Man Show, which you know, Jimmy's
like behind women, you know, fake humming and dry humping
them while they're on the street and the woman doesn't know,
and you know, all kinds of just like what would
be called very sexist and misogynist stuff. And you know,
even though people are laughing, it was silly frat boy Jimmy.
(12:16):
In the same show he did blackface skitslit black body.
He had the whole body painted, the famous Karl Malone
skits that he would do. Jimmy then gets to grow
up and become you know, one of the great bastions
of the liberal elite media, a Peabody winner for the
Love of God recently, and he gets to do that.
(12:37):
But Spencer Pratt can't. He has to remain the dope,
you know, villain kid from the hills. He can't get
married and have children and watch his home burned down
and become an activist and oh sorry, exactly like Barack Obama.
On the ballot it says community organizer next to his name,
(12:57):
just like Barack. But he can't become a responsible guy
that wants to make a change. And you can, like,
what the hell, well.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Right, I mean, obviously there's if we believe that if
the left didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards
at all. Because if you look at the way Jimmy's career,
I mean, what you just laid out was beautiful of
Jimmy's career. But also if you look at how elections
have evolved, we have everybody screaming that Trump is a Nazi.
He can't possibly get elected. He's got all of the
(13:27):
you know, they they took him to court, they got
him convicted of a felony, all of these types of
different things. And then here comes in Graham Platner from
Maine legitimately has a Nazi tattoo. He has all these accusations.
I see one of the I think it's like one
of the co founders of Me Too the other night,
(13:48):
and she's like, this is different. These don't These don't
come to the standards of me too allegations because me
Too is generally a boss and an employee. Well, I
didn't know. I didn't know me Too had rule. This
is the first time I'm hearing this.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, no, no, it's it's these are the there's different
levels of groping and his are just his are fine.
It's funny, my brother, they're still tallying, you know. But
he was second place running for governor of Maine for
the Republican primary, so he knows the Platner situation. Well,
(14:24):
we all do, but most importantly, when people like comment
on it different Democrat leaders, you know that everything is
about that fight in the Senate for the majority. And
so now all the people who would vilify it if
it were the other way, you know, say about Platner,
Well you know this is this is really for the
(14:45):
people Maine to decide. That's the way you can punt it.
Punt the issue away, because of course they you know,
the guy in favorability polls, he's up on Susan Collins,
the chair of the Appropriations Committee, an actually powerful person
from your small state of Maine of one point three
seven five million residents. You know you're gonna you're gonna
(15:08):
kick her for an oyster farmer who has Nazi tattoos
and is a total dirt bag. Sure, and by the way,
not the not the blue collar guy. I think he
went to Hotchkiss, which is one of the funnest prep schools. Yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll.
You said, they'd have no standards if it weren't for
the double standards. There you go, that's a man to them.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean, that's the funny part is they're like, how
can we find an actual man? This must be a man,
this must be what people women and men. I think
what it is is they're trying to find how to
get men back into their party, and they're like, we
can can we can control men and bring men back
if we choose a man, and this is a man
that they will like. They legitimately do not understand the
(15:55):
nuances of how to talk to people anymore, how to
connect with people. And I'm honestly, I mean, it is
disturbing to me that Platner has had this ability to
get to connect. It's funny to me because I somehow
made the mistake of downloading this meta business suite app
on my phone. And apparently when you download this, if
you don't shut off the notifications, you get every comment
(16:18):
that ever comes on your social media like comes up
on my phone. So I was like, oh my, this
just happened in the last couple of days. And I
was like, oh, these comments are so horrible. I don't
read all of these comments, right, So wake up this morning.
I'm like, I got to figure out how to turn
this off. I wake up this morning. The first one
is Trump said he wanted to grab women by the pussy,
(16:39):
and you're worried about grand Platiner and I was like,
this is funny because I'm interviewing someone today that it
actually knows that whole story, you know. And I was like,
but that seemed like the beginning. And it was a
moment this is stupid, But it was a moment where
I remember exactly where I was when they announced this
on the radio, that oh, we've got this tape that's
(16:59):
going to take Trump down, and I was getting gas
and I remember thinking, this is going to be bad.
Hillary Clinton is going to be the next president and
she's going to be a nightmare. And I do think
there was a moment where people said, we are sick
and tired of them trying to pull out a gotcha
from years ago. That was and to me, a lot
(17:20):
of people were right about that moment. That was like
nobody thought anybody who was listening, it was just guys
being guys. This is not that, This.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Is not that. Listen. I always say, it's Trump being Trump.
I mean when I spent a lot of time with him,
more than anybody, because I was the head of NBC,
you know, entertainment basically the top entertainment guy, and The
Prentice had just come out the year before, and it
was the biggest thing ever. And you know, so I
was with him through the launch of that whole thing
(17:48):
when he you know, so three days a week if
you will. But you know, whenever we were together, it
was it's his favorite topics are golf and and it
was it wasn't golf day, so you know, and he yeah,
he's just he's just like that. I love him Allennia
(18:09):
and says really was egging him on. No, he doesn't
need any egging on, Millennia and you know that. Uh,
but yeah, like this, here we go. This is the outrage.
The outrage. The outrage was like, do everything you can
weaponize this thing, NBC News, My employer leaks that tape
out themselves to the Washington Post to weaponize it. This
(18:32):
is going to be the thing, the one this will
finally take him down. And then he does one of
the most deft moves you could ever make. I don't
know who gave him the line or if he just
happens into these things. He said to Hillary. Bill Clinton
said worse to me on a golf course. I'll never
(18:55):
forget that line. And just like that, Hillary when.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Hit and everybody knew, Yeah, there's a lot of believability
in that like dirty Bill, like hello, and the one
thing she had to weaponize and destroy him, he turned
around and stuck in her face and neutralized paralyzed her.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well he is he is the ultimate show aunt. Do
you remember when they had the debate and he had
all of Bill's accusers lined up in the front row.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I was the same debate genius, I mean genius. They
turned it around, and I mean that was just imagine
imagine Hillary like, are you kidding me? And you know,
underneath it all, I always have this idea that she
really actually hates Bill. She's just like speak. We were
a team forever, you know, from Yale law school. We're
a team. We're going to make a powerful political broker,
(19:49):
you know, team. And now it's you do you?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And I support you? And then it's me, me do me?
And then she's said no. And I think underneath it all,
I get into the psychology of it all. And I
think you were a s Collogy major in college at
Kansas was it so Tutor Dixon psychology major?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You will know that.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I think underneath and all, Bill was thinking, hmm, how
about in the end of the day, just one of
us was president and it was me, Okay, how about
my wife isn't also president? And she's saying, Bill, why
does it happened? Every time I'm about to get something
something from me, you gotta do something stupid. You gotta
(20:29):
go swimming around in a hot tub at Epstein's, you
know place with a bunch of girls. You gotta go,
and you got a Lewinsky, this thing that they'll weaponize forever.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I mean, it's just it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
The beautiful thing about their marriage prison though, is that
they had to stay together. There was no option for
her now too.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's like, but I man, I leave him now after
I've lost everything. No, I'm stubborn. I'm gonna finish this
damn thing exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
But he is like a corpse. I mean you know
that she torch him until the end of time like that.
His life has been miserable. The last good day he
had was with Monica under that desk.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh, and what a day. He wasn't going upstairs. Yeah,
when he got him, When he got upstairs, it was
nothing but.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Ice, for sure. Yes, And it's been nothing but ice
ever since. I mean, he you stand hit. He and
Trump are the same age, So why I we have
younger people in our office, and they were talking about,
oh my gosh, Bill Clinton's so old, you know, because
for them he wasn't in office. They didn't know him,
like I grew up with him, right, So I go,
he's the same age as Trump. And they're like, what,
(21:40):
he's a walking corpse? How can he be this? And
he seems slow. He seems like he has been whipped
by her every day ever since, like that man has
been punished good.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'll remember Bill Clinton. I remember back in the day.
I don't know if you're you're a little younger than maybe,
but they're a lot longer than me. Hey, in number,
Bill Clinton was visiting Greg Norman, the professional golfer, down
in Jupiter, Florida, And there was some weekend where like
Bill went in on a Friday and he came out
(22:15):
on crutches on a Sunday. I was like, huh. And
he never explained what happened. He's like, you know, on
the staircase, he kind of slipped or whatever. You know.
There were ladies running around that place, and Bubba was
just in his element, just going crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I mean, but the funny thing is they act like
you know, it's like when Madison Cawthorine got caught hooking
up with chicks and people are like, oh my gosh,
this little punk is hooking up with chicks in Washington,
and you're like, this is not new. We just know
a lot more social media exists. The idea that this
whole like scandal in Washington that everybody is a pervert
(22:55):
is new. I'm like, this is not new. I mean,
we have somebody in Michigan who used to work in Washington,
and an older guy talks about those days about prostitutes
and everything like as though that was just okay and
there's no there's there becomes a blurred line where there's
(23:15):
there's no values or stopping any of that.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, so this guy refers to it as the good
old days, like back up God.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, Like we were in power, so why shouldn't we
get whatever we wanted? And that is whether it's women
or drugs or partying, it was those all those things
all went along with power, which is why I like
full circle here when you look at how they changed
voting in California. Power is so intoxicating for people.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, yeah, there's no My brother and I like my
brother Jonathan, who ran for a governor of Maine. He
there isn't a brighter, smarter, higher man of integrity that
I know in in my life. He's incredible, just totally honest,
(24:05):
total transparent. He's the guy that would, you know, lay
out the books and you know, here's here's the money,
and and here where it's going, and here's where the
failure whatever happened? Why does politics breed duplicity? And I
know amazing to me, like why is it, of all things,
why is it a draw for bad people? I don't
understand this. It should be for good people like that.
(24:26):
Where are the public servants who say I want to
do this because I want to make life better for
the people around me? What happened to them?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's so funny because so this is what I'm glad
you're saying this, because I was so naive when I
ran for office because I thought people I felt like
congressmen were these statesmen, they were next level. This was
like the cream of the crop person right, And I
thought people who ran for office were doing it because
they genuinely were, like I see a need that I
(24:54):
hope I can make this better for the people I
would work for. But I have found out there there
is so much to being in Congress or Senate. They
get these free trips. They go all around the world.
They're treated to fancy dinners every night. It is a
power trip and it's.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So part of me information stockstrated.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yes, exactly, you you could be.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I love the guy that's like a congressman from like
the thirty third. No one's ever heard of this guy,
like Larry Bonia, like some kind of guy. Never heard
of it. And it's like sixteen million dollars over the
last two years on his one hundred and eighty thousand
dollars salary or something, I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And he's thrilled that no one knows who he is.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, Oh, Larry's just quietly like I don't need Fox
News calls. We're looking for no, no, no, no, no,
I just I keep right here.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
How about. It's like there's a co there's I think
there's like two missing congressmen right now, like one woman
is running and some guy they're obviously running for reelection.
They're like we have not seen them in months, and
people are not freaking this is not national news. How
can there be they just haven't shown up for votes.
They're not campaigning. Remember a few years ago there was
(26:05):
one that they found in a nursing home running for reelection.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yes, in Texas.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I think it was like this is how is this possible?
It just blows my mind that we are not paying
more attention to who is running for office and you don't.
I mean, it really is a money game. It's like
whoever can convince people to give them the most money.
But Democrats are kind of like chosen, They're groomed. They
like bring them up from city council and they're like, oh,
(26:32):
this is a good one. It says what we want.
Let's continue to push money its way and see if
it can become bigger. And then they just amass. It's
like pig pen, you know, like their's stint gets bigger
over time and all their money and then they glom
on to them and they go, Okay, this is the person.
And they always turn bad. Like talk about hot mics.
(26:52):
Just the other day, Whitmer, Gretchen Whitmer, who's the governor
of Michigan, and she has a great approval rating. She's
like got sixty percent approval rating and everybody loved her.
This is a big story in Michigan. She went and
did this ribbon cutting for a data center and people
they started to go, oh my gosh, you're not an environmentalist,
like you're turning on us. This is no good. And
(27:13):
then she was caught on a hot mic, so you
will like this. She was caught on a hot mic
and the CEO of one of these big data companies
or tech companies said to her something like, how do
you get away with this? She was like, the people
say f no, and then once we get in, we
do whatever we want. Oh boy, that's how they are.
But she acts like she loves the people. I mean,
(27:34):
they're really good at manipulating.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
How did she get herself out of that?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Was?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
This just happened. It just happened. So I don't think
she's out of it.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
She hasn't thought of it yet. She hasn't thought of it.
Like she's like, no, that won't work.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
She was going to put a blue folder in front
of her face, but that didn't help.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh oh my god. Wow. If she can get out
of this, if she stays, it's you know what, she's
got to study from the master. She got to study
trying and he'll when like that go from sixty to
sixty two, although he hasn't seen sixty a very long time. Right, Yeah,
(28:09):
I will say this. Look, we're talking about people in office,
Tutor Dixon, she of the great name. My uncle was
George H. W. Bush, and he ran for office. Every
bit of his political career was motivated by the lives
he lost when he was a pilot, the youngest naval
(28:32):
fighter pilot in the history of the Navy, when he
was shot down in the Pacific and the two men
in his plane did not make it, and he did,
and he wondered, for how is it? Why am I here?
How do I make it? And these two die and
he carried them with him forever. And it was the
impetus for his public service career to give back, to
(28:56):
make other people's lives as best you can better. And
that was what motivated him. It wasn't money, it wasn't
all these things. He wasn't grifting on the job. He
never did anything like that. And he even sacrificed his reelection.
He went back on his pledge of no new taxes
because he felt terrible about the national deficit being eighty
(29:21):
seven billion dollars. Imagine that he felt bad about it then,
and so he reversed and handed a surplus to Bill Clinton. Lost,
knew he'd lose, knew Clinton would whipponize it against him,
and knew it was political suicide, but he didn't care.
He felt like it was the right thing to do,
and so he hands Clinton it was enhanced Clinton the
(29:45):
only surplus we've ever known. And Clinton goes on and
rides that and amazingly talk about character. They became friends
or you know, functioning friendship later. But that type of
public service and that type I mean that just you'll
never ever ever see it again ever.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But I'm going to push back your brother, Rand. There
are still people that are out there doing the right thing,
and I believe, I believe this country is great and
those people will find a way good to get through,
get through the bs.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Good good. While what are you going to run again?
You did a great job, you only lost by ten point.
The whitmer.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I will say that I feel like Michigan has we
have some work to do with infrastructure, but I think
there's an opportunity and I'm never rolling it out and
I'm working to make sure that people can good people
can get elected here. And my story is not is
not different than that story of the person who wants
to do it because we had a steel foundry. We
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had a steel foundry in Michigan. I watched all of
the regulations and overregulations crush this foundry year after year,
and finally my dad closed it. Three hund jobs got
taken away from this area because there's no way to
push forward. And I said, we can do better. We
can do better for manufacturers, and I believe that there
are enough people out there that feel that way. We
(31:12):
will get good people back into office, and maybe someday
that's me. And if it's not me, I will work
to get good people in, just like you work to
get good people in and and Michigan will become great
again and America will be great. And I do believe
that that's the future. And I'm excited about our two
hundred and fiftieth birthday and I see good things for
us so and I appreciate what you do to keep
(31:32):
people informed of what's happening.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, can you harvest ballots in Michigan?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
No? No, I think it's you and maybe Nevada. I
feel like there's only two states where you can do it.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The answer is out harvest. Okay. So if you're going
to you know, run as an anti establishment can an
outside candidate, you just have to out harvest. Those are
the rules. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
You gotta you gotta, you gotta play by the rules.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Then the opposition, and then when you get to power
or do the right thing and change it. I say,
what about an election day? How about an election week? Yeah?
How about a week? Okay, go to the polls, participate
in your country or democracy employers, you got a week
in order to find so and so, a half a
day off to go and vote and do it. And
(32:19):
if you've got them, of course you make you know,
room for those who are ill or infirmed. But it's
somebody that's back to pre twenty sixteen. You know, somebody
that is a family member or you know, directly connected,
not a campaign worker, a volunteer, you know, a college kid,
(32:42):
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
And if you can get Steve Hilton in, maybe you
can change that law. And then you do go back
to the way you used to do it. Who knows,
I mean, if it doesn't change, I say, next cycle,
we come out and help you get good people through
the primary. We help you ballot harvest and we kept win.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
The harvest is a plenty. Come to California and the
harvest season.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yes, we will all help because I hate to tell
you this, but you're like a rot on the rest
of the country. When you do this, it affects the
rest of us because you're you're very powerful. California is
very powerful and your leaders are very powerful, and that
rubs off on everybody else. So we will help.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Gavin Newsom is really the one. He is a He
is a handsome toll like mafia capo. Who who really
put this in overdrive? When you know in May of
twenty twenty two months into COVID, he saw a beautiful opportunity.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Do I hate that he's good looking?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Story mail, mandatory mail and vote he because we have
to keep people safe at home. He probably hatched it
at the French laundry while he was sipping a lovelyss
yard in May and he said, Okay, all ballots we
must mail to every single citizen in California and never
turned back. COVID's long gone, but now we mandatory mail
(34:10):
a month ahead. Everyone gets a ballot.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It's incredible And if only you had JB. Pricksker we
wouldn't have to think about it like he would, because
he would never. JB is so unattractive that he has
no chance of becoming president. But Gavin Newsom is attractive,
and that is a terrible thing for a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
He's attractive. But Obama was attractive. He's got that Kennedy
as One thing Democrats are very they're stuck on is hot.
They love their identity politics, and they love anything that
stink that that is a whiff of the Kennedys. Yes,
he's got that handsome sort of swagger.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
You have hot you have hot men, but you don't
have hot women like Democrats. They have hot men, they
don't have We Republicans are I think we have attractive
pe people and this is like, this is Donald Trump conversation.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
You're a better looking party. I agree with that. Yeah, No,
I agree with that. On the whole. Democrats are less attractive.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
All right, It's true. I mean I think it's a
happiness thing. I think it's like you get married, you
have kids, you have you have a goal in life
to have this beautiful family, and it's just happiness. Because
I think that Democrats don't have to be as unattractive
as they are, many of them make themselves more unattractive.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Obama was handsome, he ed swagger, no question, You're right
the men, but yeah, I mean the women, not a chance.
Did you have you seen our first lady? Hello?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I know? Why does she not get credit for being
smoking hot? So unaffair? It's so unfair. I'm like, I mean,
and I'm not. Jill's a beautiful woman. She I will
give her that, but come on, can we please let
Melania have a little bit of credit for also being beautiful?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Oh? Not even in the same league. I mean, this
is just unheard of. So nice. We had her twice,
which brought her back and wasn't had nothing to do
with him?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yes, exactly, exactly exactly. All right, Well I've kept you
too long. Billy Bush, thank you so much for being
on the podcast. It was really fun.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Tutor Dixon, what a great name. I hope you run again.
Thanks for having me, Thank.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You, and thank you all for listening. As always, you
can get it wherever you get your podcast. You can
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