April 19, 2025 • 36 mins
In hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts dive into a variety of engaging topics. Buck Sexton begins by sharing his personal experience of becoming a new father, expressing gratitude for the support received and discussing the joys and challenges of parenthood. This heartfelt segment sets a positive tone for the hour.
The conversation then shifts to significant political and social issues. The hosts discuss the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an individual deported to El Salvador, and the legal and political implications surrounding his deportation. They explore the broader context of U.S. foreign policy and the judicial system's role in such matters.
Another major topic is the Trump administration's stance on "woke" campuses, specifically the decision to freeze $2 billion in funding to Harvard University. The hosts criticize the high costs of higher education and the perceived left-wing bias in universities. They argue for the need to hold educational institutions accountable and reduce taxpayer subsidies.
The discussion also touches on the broader issue of administrative bloat in universities, with a focus on the growth of non-teaching staff and the impact on educational quality and costs. The hosts highlight the role of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs and their influence on campus culture.
Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck emphasize the importance of fiscal responsibility, questioning why taxpayer dollars are used to subsidize wealthy institutions like Harvard. They advocate for a reevaluation of government funding for higher education and suggest that universities should be more self-sufficient.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis end Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. I am a dad,
So now I've got two dads talking to you here
on the show. Clay an old, grizzled, grizzled veteran of fatherhood,
me gray Beard. I'm a rookie to this fatherhood thing,
but I have to tell you I absolutely love it,
(00:21):
and I appreciate so much all of the just the
kind words and well wishes and everything from the moms
and dads out there and everybody who were so kind.
As I was out for a few days carry my
wife a total trooper, never lost her temper, never was
anything other than upbeat during it was pretty long, pretty
(00:41):
long time in the hospital, but she was gonna say
we got through it. She got through it. I was
there for moral support. And the only thing I learned
is probably next time, wait until my wife is out
of the hospital before I'm like, when can we have more?
So I was like, can we do two or three
of these? This is awesome? So yes, the baby thing
is incredible. And if I seem a little even more
(01:03):
upbeat and a bulliont about the future than ever, it's
because well, you all, those of you who have had kids,
you know exactly what I'm talking about it, and the
grandparents out there, you know that you just it just
kind of puts you in a frame of mind, in
a mood. So everything is great, Carrie's doing fantastically, babies adorable, healthy,
Everything is great. Thank you so much, Clay, thank you
for rocking out. I was listening when I was out
(01:24):
because you know, as one does when you're just sitting
around in the hospital. Talk radio is like your salvation
when you are stuck in a hospital room for hours
and hours on end. So I was listening to the
podcasts and stuff, great shows, and I say, we just
jump right into it, and if you guys want to
talk more, talk more fatherhood ideas or the first few
weeks or anything, we can just throw that into the
(01:45):
mix as we go. But yes, I'm in kind of
a like walking on a cloud nine attitude, as I'm
sure you all understanding. It was fantastic, but we got
a country to save and we got a lot of
things going on as well. So let's just lay out
there that we'll discuss this this situation, Clay, of this
individual who has been sent the case of Guilmar Abrago Garcia,
(02:09):
who has been sent to El Salvador, and now it's
in the it's in the courts, and the Libs are
saying Trump has to bring him back, and Trump's like,
that's foreign policy related to judge can't actually review it,
so we'll discuss this. I think it's very interesting. I
also threw out an idea on Twitter which I don't
think is crazy. Maybe this is crazy, but I don't
think this is crazy. Trump Trump International El Salvador. I
(02:33):
think it would send such a signal this country is
incredibly safe. He's talked about it in Gaza, for Heaven's sakes,
which is not incredibly safe. I think that this would
send such a signal that great allies of the United States,
people that make the right decisions, and I think it's
a lovely place. The problem with El Salvador used to
be that was the murder capital of the world per capita,
or in the top three. Now it's the safest country
(02:55):
in the Western Hemisphere. So I think time to start
putting in some form investment. I think the Trump International
or whatever they want to call a Trump sen Salvador
would be a pretty cool so if anyone has a
line into Eric Trump at the Trump organization. I just
think it's an interesting idea. But Clay, I wanted to
start with this one. The Trump let's just say what
(03:16):
it is, the Trump War on woe campuses, and Harvard
University has found out that Trump administration is going to
freeze two billion dollars that had been committed to this.
It is tax day today, which we'll talk more about. So,
as Clay plearned out to me before the show, I
think this is a particularly worthwhile time for us to say,
(03:38):
hold on a second. So the government backs the student
loans with you know, with no risk to these institutions whatsoever,
and so that lets them jack up the tuition endlessly.
When my dad went to Harvard Business School, Clay and
was he was a doc boy that's what they called them,
and waiting tables over the summer to make money to
(04:00):
pay and you could carb the business school was like
two grand for the year for the semester. This is
obviously like nineteen seventy. But now these schools are eighty grand,
seventy five, eighty grand a year. It's outrageous. And on
top of that, they're getting billions of dollars of research money,
and they're left wing lunacy factories. I like that Harvard
and a bunch of other schools are getting some heat
(04:23):
from the Trump team and that this is a real initiative.
They're not just coming up with this ad hoc. They
want to make universities abide by the spirit of not
only the Constitution, but the American ethos.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
This is where Hillsdale College gets it right. And I'm
not saying that just because they're sponsor. I love a
lot of what they put out into the educational ecosystem
on a variety of different levels.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But think about this. It is tax day, and.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I'm sure many of you are, like me, stroking checks
that you don't want to stroke to send to a
government that you feel is likely to be wasting the
money that you are giving them, and that you could
spend that money, or save that money, or utilize that
money that you earned better than the government could.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I am with you. Our tax rates are far too high. Okay,
with that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Being said, colleges right now, colleges get a team. You
can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I
think this is pretty much true. Everywhere they get tens
of billions of dollars in direct cash payments from the
American taxpayer. That should end, and we'll talk about that
in a moment. But we're giving them property tax subsidies
(05:30):
in almost every city and state, and we are giving
them tax exemption, meaning that their endowments can grow without
having to be taxed in the same way that yours
and minds earnings are taxed. If you give them property
tax exemptions and you give them not for profit status
(05:50):
so they don't have to pay taxes, the taxpayers are
already subsidizing colleges and universities to a massive degree. To
build on what Buck said, then we also subsidized student
loans and try to take the risk from the university
itself and place it on the American taxpayer, our government.
Why in the world are we also giving them tens
(06:12):
of billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies. I don't think
any college or university should get any of our taxpayer dollars.
I think a subsidy on property taxes and on not
for profit status should give them plenty plus their endowments.
Let them actually deal with their own cost structure.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Right, I mean, there are limits on these things. Right,
you think about religious institutions, they are tax exempt, but
you tend to under people understand why proselytizing, for example,
if that's if the government was funding that, there'd be
an issue. Right, Well, why are universities getting all this
money that they can then use to pay salaries, administrative costs,
(06:52):
all this other They say it's for research, as if
they're all running DARPA, you know, Defense Advanced Research Project
Agency out of the Pentagon, figuring out how to give
site to the blind. Really important, amazing stuff. I guarantee.
If you think there's fraud, waste, and abuse in the
federal government, just wait until you see what the administrative
staffs of universities have turned into. This has been true
(07:14):
across education. By the way, my friend Ines Felcher has
done great work on this clay something like administrative headcount.
And this is true from nursery and you know, public
schools and you know the very beginning of education all
the way up through universities and PhD programs. Administrative staff
has grown at breakneck pace in the last twenty or
(07:36):
so years, like six times what actual teaching staff has.
So whatever you think about how fast teaching staff is growing.
And the administrative staff and this is where you get
DEI this is where you I mean meaning people that
that's their job. We had diversity deans at my college.
That was an actual job title, and there were a
(07:56):
lot of them, and their job was to just march
around and make sure that you never said a naughty
thing or took a non approved position in public on
the town square in the college green or you'd be
in trouble. You'd have to go to re education camp.
And which did happen to people? I might add that
was one of the punishments you'd have to go and
do like sensitivity training essentially clay. And you know the
(08:17):
other part of this that I love is the so yes,
the tax A lot of you are saying, why are
my tax dollars going to subsidize Harvard has a what's
the endowment? Sixty billion dollars something.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I was talking about that yesterday and I meant to
wok up with the heart. I'm gonna look it up
right now, because again, the outrageous yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I mean this is this is an amazing amount of
money that they have piled. The three billion as of
last year, that's astonishing astonishing, And so you sit here
and you say, well, hold on a second. You're as
you're getting ready to you know, or hopefully you've already
got it in. But if you're getting in the last minute,
pay your taxes, and you're trying to make ends meet
(08:56):
Harvard with its tens of billions of dollars sitting in
the bank, and all the bloated salaries for professors who
maybe teach a class once a week and take sabbaticals
of a year where they get paid, and all the
I mean, the waste and everything in this is met.
The other part of this play is the university system.
We have to be on the same way that federal
bureaucracy has become a province of the left and essentially
(09:19):
a form of permanent left wing governance. That is, that
is not about elections, right. The federal bureaucracy, if you
the EPA until Trump came along, was democrats getting what
they want, whether it was a Republican or a Democrat administration.
The university system, it's the same thing. It's no matter
who wins, who loses, doesn't change the faculty at Harvard,
(09:41):
doesn't change the board of overseers, and they are factories
of the left wing insanity that has infected so much
of this country in recent years. They're not teaching people
important stuff. They're teaching people left wing nonsense, and so
I think it's time that they're held to account.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I just think, at a bare minimum, if you want
to have complete independence, you should do what Hillsdale College did.
Harvard has fifty three billion dollars in their endowment. They
have Again, it's not like they have to pay a
massive amount of tax on that endowment.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Every year.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
They return around to eight nine ten percent probably a
year on average, so they're growing that at a five
billion dollar a year clip.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I don't think that a.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Government should be in the business of dictating to colleges
exactly what they can do. But if you take our
taxpayer dollars, then the government does have a say in
what you do. I mean, that's been established for a
long time. Go back and read Bob Jones put in
my constitutional law hat when the government gives you money,
(10:52):
they have a right to be involved in the way
that you run your college and university. And I think
the biggest solution here as we sit on tax Day
is why are we giving billions of dollars in subsidies,
tens of billions of dollars in direct cash subsidies from
our tax dollars to these universities. They should be able
(11:12):
to make their business, which is the university, work without
needing any money from the federal government at all. If
they can't, they got to cut back like most businesses
would that don't have tens of billions of dollars in
federal dollars coming in. And I know what they're going
to do now, They're say the research grants that they're
gonna they're gonna try to promote.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The New York Times is going to come forward. Because
remember that this is this is this is like the
cathedral of the left. This is so important to them
to have dominance, not just of of education in a
broad sense, Clay, but of elite educational institutions. They have
seized so called elite. They have seized these places and
leveraged them for their own maximum benefit. They turn into
(11:53):
indoctrination factories for kids to come out with Yeah, I
know not everybody I went to Ammers, you know, you
went to you to law school at Vanderbilt, that you
can go to these places and not come out of communists,
but I'm sure Vanderbilt's probably well, I don't know how
left wing is Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think Vanderbilt is actually committed. A credit to the
new chancellor a Vanderbilt. They kicked all the protesters out,
they have the University of Chicago Free Speech Code. It's
been solidly committed. They just re signed the chancellor for
ten years. I'm really very confident in the direction Vanderbilt's going,
but I hope that other schools follow that lead. And
(12:29):
I don't think it's coincidental that Vanderbilt is able to
go that direction while being based in a state like Tennessee. Well,
I think the SEC schools in general, buck are a
little bit different than your northeastern Ivy League schools.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
As the weather gets better, the schools get less insane.
Not always true, but you know, I know there's Duke
and there's some exceptions to this. But as things get warmer,
I think you tend to have less the most the
most radical stuff is in the Northeast. It's where I went,
It's in the areas where I went to school. That's
where you have the craziest stuff. Maybe the Pacific Northwest too,
but there's nothing that that really can compare to how
(13:02):
crazy those places are. How you know, Brown University, Wesleyan University,
these these institutions. But Clay I would just say, I
think this is this is important. You know, Stephen Miller
is reportedly very much involved with this working group that's
that's going after that, and I think it's it's necessary
to put these universities on notice. They've been engaged in racism.
(13:24):
According to the Supreme Court, they've been engaged in racism
for a long time. These are racist institutions that are
getting These are constitutional violators. They are violating the right
that all of us have to be judged not by
the color of our skin, but by the content of
our character or by our SAT scores. They are in
violation and still to this day, they're trying to just
(13:46):
pull all these games. So part of we can get
into some of what the Trump administration wants them. They
want an end to all DEI programs. This is to
continue to get federal funding. They want access to admission
records because they know that all these schools are just
they're ignoring the Supreme Court. They're just going to keep
doing what they did, which is making sure that they have,
you know, the percentage of black students they want, the
(14:07):
percentage of Native American students they want, and so on
and so forth. They're going to do that, even though
that's a violation of what the Supreme Court has said.
So I think this is I think this is great,
and it also is going to change people's thinking because
one of the things, you know, Clay, I'll be honest
about this. Whenever I would have I don't know what
your experience was with this whenever. You know, earlier on
particularly my media career, like young conservators would reach out
(14:29):
to me. They would say, I have a professor who
is a communist, like, I'm going to write a paper
that really tells him. And I said no. I said no,
because I want you to get the best possible. I'm
not saying don't lie, like, don't write things that you'd
be embarrassed by. But don't think you're going to die
on this hill and be a hero by getting an
f as a student at some school your parents are
paying god knows how much money to sent or that
(14:51):
you're taking out loans to go to get the best job.
You can be as successful as you can help change
the country. When you get out of that place because
you're not gonna to change it really effectively from the inside.
I think the mystique of a lot of these places
is fading, and that's part of the power the left
is counted on, Like, oh, I went to Harvard. Even
you look at something, the people want to Harvard there, morons,
(15:14):
I know this.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Your wife went to the University of Florida. It's almost impossible,
the possible university.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
If we were just talking to one of our neighbors
whose boy wants to go there, and they're talking, they're
talking Ivy League equivalent SAT scores or act. I guess
if you're in the South Ivy League equivalent scores to
get into a University of Florida. Now everybody wants.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
To go University of Tennessee Buck. When I was a
kid seventeen eighteen years old, you basically had to have
a pulse to get into the University of Tennessee. They
have tens of thousands of applicants. Now it's become increasingly
difficult to get in there. University of Georgia, it's almost impossible.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
UF.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I mean, what's happening is people are voting with their
actual dollars and I'll tell you this. When I was
a kid, nobody from Chicago, LA or New York City
would brag about sending their to an SEC school.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Now they all do. It's a major cultural shift. You know.
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Two dads.
You know, I forget that could be the subtitle the
show We've got two Dads down. So Play's gonna give
me a lot of advice because he's been this game
a while, seene some stuff. He has been to the mountaintop.
He's got the gray hair and the beard too, and
as he pointed out, I do too, but that's not
from being a parent.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You saw this. We'll have some fun later. You saw
that I went trending over my argument that men shouldn't
die their beard. Jason Day's wife got involved, Ohio State's coach.
We'll have some fun with that. At some point, I
was I.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Was chuckling, chuckling heartily at Clay throwing throwing sand in
the eyes of some folks in the sports media world
about the bearded, the dye of the bearding, the dye
and the beard whatever. You know what I mean. But
I wanted to get into this first before we should
definitely talk about that. It's a lot of fun, but
this is something that the Democrats are really dug in on.
(19:49):
You notice stock market is not in free fall or anything.
So that story has faded. Last week it was the economy,
He's gonna melt down. I was like, no, it's gonna
be okay, there's a pause, calm down. But this story
about the deportation of somebody who, now, it's interesting. There's
a lot of a lot of conflicting news reports on
(20:10):
this about what is established versus what is allege versus
you know what, has the Trump administration admitted there was
a mistake. No, Stephen Miller says there absolutely was not
a mistake. It's not. So there's just a lot of
you know, competing information and voices on this. But here
here's what I will say is interesting to me. You
see who the Democrats are rallying behind now. And I
(20:33):
don't mean as just like one day in the news cycle,
but you see the individuals who were at the top
of the Democrats list of concerns. And this is true
in the Democrat Party, Democrat media. It's MS thirteen gang
members who are being deported. It is you know, anti
Semitic pro hamas, you know, anti Jewish campus protester types.
(20:55):
Oh we're so we're so upset and worried about them,
They're rallying behind this seventeen year old who allegedly because
you know, we have to say that murdered a young
man at a high school football game. You're seeing these
are the people the Left chooses to spend its energy
and time trying to defend, build up, create stories, even
(21:17):
lie about to promote them. So I just think that's
it's interesting because Trump is forcing them, at least in
the case of these deportation issues, to defend people that
you say to yourself, really, this is where you're gonna
put all your energy. Scott Jennings. Scott Jennings was on
CNN talking about just this issue of focus and where
(21:38):
the Democrats focus. This has cut six. Listen to what
he had to say about the quote Maryland man that
has been deported play it.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
What they also believe is that politically, the American people
want them to be as aggressive as possible and pull
all the levers they can pull to solve the crisis
that has festered for years. And you know that we
keep calling this guy Maryland man in the press. Nobody's
seen to worry about the Maryland mother, Rachel Morin, who
was murdered by someone that the previous administration let out
(22:06):
of jail.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I mean clail. I actually think this is an even
more powerful analogy, or more apt analogy than maybe people
think at first glance, because it really has been Democrat
policy that we're just not going to force the laws
about immigration. And if that means that people are going
to die and be raped and murdered by illegals who
shouldn't be in the country in the first place, that's
the cost of doing business. But if one person, one
(22:30):
person is deported who should have had, you know, an
extra ten minutes in front of a judge somewhere, the
republic is falling. That's really the position they take.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I told you that this is exactly what was going
to happen with the deportations. You can go back seven
or eight months. I said, they're going to find one
person that they decide is their poster board for someone
who shouldn't have been deported, and they're going to try
to use it as a anecdote to try to destroy
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the entire deportation process. And so that's what they've done.
And based on my research on this guy, he shouldn't
be here. And I think the point that Scott Jennings made,
and that you're making is well taken, and it built
on what I said yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'm sure you saw the Taylor Lorenz defending the would
be killer of the in the United Healthcare CEO said
he was a morally upstanding man.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Effectively, that was the other one that I left off
the list. It's it's Luigi, Yeah, it's MS thirteen gang members,
it's anti Semitic pro Homas protesters.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I think what it is is they've lost the ability
to distinguish between good and evil, and I think, unfortunately,
what it they just support evil Clay.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
That's also a possibility, like maybe they just have something,
there's something about them that they want to root for
the bad guys.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Well, that's interesting. I actually think it's just identity politics.
What do all of these things have in common. The
brown skinned person has done something wrong, with the exception
of Luigi, which is obviously I think indefensible what he
is alleged to have done, and so they're trying to
use their identity politics worldview, even though it doesn't apply.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
The situation.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
October seventh is the perfect one, right, that is, Jewish
people were attacked on October seventh, twelve hundred innocent Jewish
people were killed, and the fact that the Jews are
seen as white, even though as we have talked about,
like there's a lot of people, a variety of different
skin tones, who are Jewish, they don't have the facility
to be able to analyze good and evil because the
(24:40):
prism through which they see good and evil is based
on race. And so all of this is directly connected
to the idea that white people are pressers, and so
what happens to a white person is justified. Here's a
good question for you. And again, I hate to go
Time to Kill nineteen eighties book that John Grisham wrote
(25:03):
that later turned into the movie starring Matthew McConaughey. But
I think the story of the United Healthcare CEO would
be very different if the United Healthcare CEO had been
a minority, because then you would have a white guy
walking up to a minority on a street corner in
New York City outside of a prominent Manhattan hotel, committing
(25:26):
an execution on camera, and the argument would be, well,
why in the world was this allowed to happen. This
is white supremacy, right, Like this guy just thinks that
he can take a life at any point in time,
and so they there's also tools to build it.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I don't think there was enough focus put on this
because it is, you know, it is the extreme end,
but it is where identity politics and left wing and
doctrination can take a deranged person or a person and
make them more deranged. And it was that the fist
shooter in Tennessee was trying to kill little boys and
(26:05):
girls in school, but wanted to make sure that no
one thought she was racist. Okay, great point. That's a
real thing, everybody. That's one of the things they didn't
want you to know. To the manifesto, a trans terrorist
is gonna murder with little little kids, Okay, helpless little children.
And she doesn't though, want people that that she wants
to be her like renowned, that's he that's her legacy
(26:27):
or whatever. But she doesn't want anyone think she's racist
because that that for posterity would be really saying it is.
It is really such a good point and an awful
one that in her writings she was so cognizant of
leftist ideology that she wanted to make sure the people
she targeted were white so she didn't get called racist.
After she killed a bunch of innocent people, let us
(26:48):
boil us down.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
She also killed a black worker at the school, so
she killed everybody. But the fact that that was how
broken her brain was that she was still applying leftist
ideology in that way.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well you also, you see that she's fine being a
child murderer, yes, but would not be fine if people
thought that she was a racist. That is how I mean,
this is how fundamentalist the left wing identity politics religion
has become better to be a child murderer than a racist,
(27:22):
or rather be considered a She's not even you know,
that's the thing. It's just the perception that she would
be a racist, and so she changed her target set.
You know. This is this is why a lot, a
lot of the stuff that Trump is doing and taking
on here is so important and so powerful, because there
has been really a weaponization of resentment that has occurred
through identity politics for a long time now, and people
(27:46):
have grown tired of it and enough is enough, and
that that needs there needs to be action taken. But
but Clay, you're right about how all these different individuals, uh,
the way that race plays into the to the view
of the left that these are a victim cases. I'll
just say this, if you have a you know, a
like white attorney who is representing or rather who is
(28:11):
in trouble or something. For one of these cases, I
saw something about some woman said that she was gonna
be deported, and she's like a civil rights attorney. That's
not going to get the attention the same way that
a guy named like mof Mood whatever his name is,
who is being deported right, and that's not going to
get attention from left, the same way that this guy
kill mar Abrego Garcia is getting all this attention, the
(28:33):
same way that I know that this is gonna seem
like I'm taking us I'm weaving too much. But can
I just throw this in there because I didn't get
to talk about this. I thought this was interesting that
they found this altar. They found this altar in Guatemaladi.
Do you see this clay and the altar is.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
For my where they were, yeah, where they were killing
young kids, like sacrificing young kids hundreds of years ago.
But yes, yeah, no, no, of course, right, but this
is an ancient civilization used for sacrifice and want people
to think that this was a modern story yet but yes.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But it's just so fascinating when you see the online conversations.
People try to create these. Here you go, here's the
here's a quote. Here's a quote from an archaeologist. Okay,
they found a child sacrifice alter from the Mayans. Okay,
this is established by the archaeologists, and this is you're
gonna see how this connects with what we're talking about
(29:27):
a second ago. And they will lecture us, oh my gosh,
about colonization and the lectures. But all these things they
find and tens of thousands of children were brutally mutilated
and murdered at this altar by the Mayans, their own children.
It's like the Canaanite deity Malik. You know, when the
(29:47):
Israelites came in, there was a Canaanite deity. It's in
the Bible. Many of you know this Moloch, and it
was the god of child sacrifice. They had this clay.
Here's what the archaeologist says. We see how the issue
of sacrifice exists in these cultures. It was a practice.
It's not that they were violent, it was their way
of connecting with celestial bodies. Does anyone think that if
(30:09):
we found a child's sacrifice alter in you know, the
center of Ireland, that the archaeologists would be saying, well,
this isn't violent, it's about you know, it's about religion,
so that doesn't count. They always take this view. They
always racialize everything, and the race component plays into the
(30:30):
way the left sees everything, including these different individuals today
that they're all rallying behind. Well, and I think again,
it's it's why so many people out there have lost
the ability to distinguish between good and evil. Good and
evil isn't based on race, It isn't based on gender,
It isn't based on ethnicity, it isn't based on what
country you live in.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Most of us have an innate moral code that we
can apply, and if you can't, it's why in an
ideal world, I always come back to it. But you know,
some of these older people, they did have pretty decent wisdom.
Lady justices blind when she weighs guilt or innocence for
a reason, because you're just supposed to apply the facts
(31:11):
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I'm so glad to see him and to see you
guys so healthy and happy. I have a couple of
practical tips because I'm a practical lady and I got
a lot of kids. Number One, make sure your wife
is well fed and hydrated while she's recovering. Bring her everything,
Just bring her things. It really helps her get her
feet under her faster to have someone simply letting her
rest while she's just feeding a baby. Also, look up
(33:40):
wake windows. The biggest mistake I made with my first
kid was not knowing that she couldn't really be up
for very long thirty five to sixty minutes as a
max for a newborn, and I accidentally kept her up
too long and that made it harder for her to
sleep when she was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So wake windows.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
That's a good one. And finally, a lot of call
that you make as a parent that seems super important,
like preschools and weaning methods and potty training styles are
just calls on the margins, and they feel really big
in the moment, but they're not actually So if you
have the big values taken care of which you and
(34:17):
Carrie do, relax on the smaller stuff all right, have
a great time.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Enjoy That is Mary Katherine Ham from the Clay and
Buck podcast network.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Buck. I believe she has four kids.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Mary Katherine Ham does, so she has some idea what
she's talking about. She's been through the wars a little bit,
I would echo what she said. We're going to have
some good advice coming from a variety of people out
there in our universe for Buck and Carrie as they
get ready for baby number one. I do think that Twode,
as you get ready start to work towards number two,
(34:53):
I would say that that that is very true. I
hadn't really thought about it very much, but for the
first in particular, you obsess over every minute detail. By
the time you get to two, three, and I'm certain
by the time you get to four or five, if
you ever get there, like you are so much more
(35:14):
chill about a lot of the decisions that you make.
I can tell you by baby three you're just so
much more comfortable. But you do obsess over every little
minute decision with baby one, and then two and three
and on beyond. Rachel Accompost Duffy, who gave you, guys congrats.
I don't know if you saw it on the show
over the weekend, thank you for the kind words.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
We were actually in the hospital with the baby watching
Fox saw you hosting and saw the nice shout out,
so thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Well, she's got nine and so she I think probably
knows better than almost didny body.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
He was advising Carrie in the early days of us
dating about you know, he's a good guy and you
know what I mean. So I was like, thank you, Rachel.
I know that was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
So we'll be back. I want to talk Buck when
we come back. This crazy story out of Texas. You
have a kid who is stabbed to death seventeen years old.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
We talked about this a little bit last week.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
There's a fundraiser online set up for the person who stabbed.
That fundraiser has now raised five hundred thousand dollars. They
also just dropped the bail to two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars, and the family has now bought a five
hundred thousand dollars house that they are living in. Seventeen
(36:35):
year old stabs another seventeen year old. This goes to me, Buck,
the difficulty of telling the difference between good and evil.
Will break this down a little bit for you guys
when we come back. Thanks for hanging with us. Tuesday
edition
Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis end Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now. I am a dad,
So now I've got two dads talking to you here
on the show. Clay an old, grizzled, grizzled veteran of fatherhood,
me gray Beard. I'm a rookie to this fatherhood thing,
but I have to tell you I absolutely love it,
(00:21):
and I appreciate so much all of the just the
kind words and well wishes and everything from the moms
and dads out there and everybody who were so kind.
As I was out for a few days carry my
wife a total trooper, never lost her temper, never was
anything other than upbeat during it was pretty long, pretty
(00:41):
long time in the hospital, but she was gonna say
we got through it. She got through it. I was
there for moral support. And the only thing I learned
is probably next time, wait until my wife is out
of the hospital before I'm like, when can we have more?
So I was like, can we do two or three
of these? This is awesome? So yes, the baby thing
is incredible. And if I seem a little even more
(01:03):
upbeat and a bulliont about the future than ever, it's
because well, you all, those of you who have had kids,
you know exactly what I'm talking about it, and the
grandparents out there, you know that you just it just
kind of puts you in a frame of mind, in
a mood. So everything is great, Carrie's doing fantastically, babies adorable, healthy,
Everything is great. Thank you so much, Clay, thank you
for rocking out. I was listening when I was out
(01:24):
because you know, as one does when you're just sitting
around in the hospital. Talk radio is like your salvation
when you are stuck in a hospital room for hours
and hours on end. So I was listening to the
podcasts and stuff, great shows, and I say, we just
jump right into it, and if you guys want to
talk more, talk more fatherhood ideas or the first few
weeks or anything, we can just throw that into the
(01:45):
mix as we go. But yes, I'm in kind of
a like walking on a cloud nine attitude, as I'm
sure you all understanding. It was fantastic, but we got
a country to save and we got a lot of
things going on as well. So let's just lay out
there that we'll discuss this this situation, Clay, of this
individual who has been sent the case of Guilmar Abrago Garcia,
(02:09):
who has been sent to El Salvador, and now it's
in the it's in the courts, and the Libs are
saying Trump has to bring him back, and Trump's like,
that's foreign policy related to judge can't actually review it,
so we'll discuss this. I think it's very interesting. I
also threw out an idea on Twitter which I don't
think is crazy. Maybe this is crazy, but I don't
think this is crazy. Trump Trump International El Salvador. I
(02:33):
think it would send such a signal this country is
incredibly safe. He's talked about it in Gaza, for Heaven's sakes,
which is not incredibly safe. I think that this would
send such a signal that great allies of the United States,
people that make the right decisions, and I think it's
a lovely place. The problem with El Salvador used to
be that was the murder capital of the world per capita,
or in the top three. Now it's the safest country
(02:55):
in the Western Hemisphere. So I think time to start
putting in some form investment. I think the Trump International
or whatever they want to call a Trump sen Salvador
would be a pretty cool so if anyone has a
line into Eric Trump at the Trump organization. I just
think it's an interesting idea. But Clay, I wanted to
start with this one. The Trump let's just say what
(03:16):
it is, the Trump War on woe campuses, and Harvard
University has found out that Trump administration is going to
freeze two billion dollars that had been committed to this.
It is tax day today, which we'll talk more about. So,
as Clay plearned out to me before the show, I
think this is a particularly worthwhile time for us to say,
(03:38):
hold on a second. So the government backs the student
loans with you know, with no risk to these institutions whatsoever,
and so that lets them jack up the tuition endlessly.
When my dad went to Harvard Business School, Clay and
was he was a doc boy that's what they called them,
and waiting tables over the summer to make money to
(04:00):
pay and you could carb the business school was like
two grand for the year for the semester. This is
obviously like nineteen seventy. But now these schools are eighty grand,
seventy five, eighty grand a year. It's outrageous. And on
top of that, they're getting billions of dollars of research money,
and they're left wing lunacy factories. I like that Harvard
and a bunch of other schools are getting some heat
(04:23):
from the Trump team and that this is a real initiative.
They're not just coming up with this ad hoc. They
want to make universities abide by the spirit of not
only the Constitution, but the American ethos.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
This is where Hillsdale College gets it right. And I'm
not saying that just because they're sponsor. I love a
lot of what they put out into the educational ecosystem
on a variety of different levels.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
But think about this. It is tax day, and.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I'm sure many of you are, like me, stroking checks
that you don't want to stroke to send to a
government that you feel is likely to be wasting the
money that you are giving them, and that you could
spend that money, or save that money, or utilize that
money that you earned better than the government could.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I am with you. Our tax rates are far too high. Okay,
with that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Being said, colleges right now, colleges get a team. You
can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but I
think this is pretty much true. Everywhere they get tens
of billions of dollars in direct cash payments from the
American taxpayer. That should end, and we'll talk about that
in a moment. But we're giving them property tax subsidies
(05:30):
in almost every city and state, and we are giving
them tax exemption, meaning that their endowments can grow without
having to be taxed in the same way that yours
and minds earnings are taxed. If you give them property
tax exemptions and you give them not for profit status
(05:50):
so they don't have to pay taxes, the taxpayers are
already subsidizing colleges and universities to a massive degree. To
build on what Buck said, then we also subsidized student
loans and try to take the risk from the university
itself and place it on the American taxpayer, our government.
Why in the world are we also giving them tens
(06:12):
of billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies. I don't think
any college or university should get any of our taxpayer dollars.
I think a subsidy on property taxes and on not
for profit status should give them plenty plus their endowments.
Let them actually deal with their own cost structure.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Right, I mean, there are limits on these things. Right,
you think about religious institutions, they are tax exempt, but
you tend to under people understand why proselytizing, for example,
if that's if the government was funding that, there'd be
an issue. Right, Well, why are universities getting all this
money that they can then use to pay salaries, administrative costs,
(06:52):
all this other They say it's for research, as if
they're all running DARPA, you know, Defense Advanced Research Project
Agency out of the Pentagon, figuring out how to give
site to the blind. Really important, amazing stuff. I guarantee.
If you think there's fraud, waste, and abuse in the
federal government, just wait until you see what the administrative
staffs of universities have turned into. This has been true
(07:14):
across education. By the way, my friend Ines Felcher has
done great work on this clay something like administrative headcount.
And this is true from nursery and you know, public
schools and you know the very beginning of education all
the way up through universities and PhD programs. Administrative staff
has grown at breakneck pace in the last twenty or
(07:36):
so years, like six times what actual teaching staff has.
So whatever you think about how fast teaching staff is growing.
And the administrative staff and this is where you get
DEI this is where you I mean meaning people that
that's their job. We had diversity deans at my college.
That was an actual job title, and there were a
(07:56):
lot of them, and their job was to just march
around and make sure that you never said a naughty
thing or took a non approved position in public on
the town square in the college green or you'd be
in trouble. You'd have to go to re education camp.
And which did happen to people? I might add that
was one of the punishments you'd have to go and
do like sensitivity training essentially clay. And you know the
(08:17):
other part of this that I love is the so yes,
the tax A lot of you are saying, why are
my tax dollars going to subsidize Harvard has a what's
the endowment? Sixty billion dollars something.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I was talking about that yesterday and I meant to
wok up with the heart. I'm gonna look it up
right now, because again, the outrageous yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I mean this is this is an amazing amount of
money that they have piled. The three billion as of
last year, that's astonishing astonishing, And so you sit here
and you say, well, hold on a second. You're as
you're getting ready to you know, or hopefully you've already
got it in. But if you're getting in the last minute,
pay your taxes, and you're trying to make ends meet
(08:56):
Harvard with its tens of billions of dollars sitting in
the bank, and all the bloated salaries for professors who
maybe teach a class once a week and take sabbaticals
of a year where they get paid, and all the
I mean, the waste and everything in this is met.
The other part of this play is the university system.
We have to be on the same way that federal
bureaucracy has become a province of the left and essentially
(09:19):
a form of permanent left wing governance. That is, that
is not about elections, right. The federal bureaucracy, if you
the EPA until Trump came along, was democrats getting what
they want, whether it was a Republican or a Democrat administration.
The university system, it's the same thing. It's no matter
who wins, who loses, doesn't change the faculty at Harvard,
(09:41):
doesn't change the board of overseers, and they are factories
of the left wing insanity that has infected so much
of this country in recent years. They're not teaching people
important stuff. They're teaching people left wing nonsense, and so
I think it's time that they're held to account.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I just think, at a bare minimum, if you want
to have complete independence, you should do what Hillsdale College did.
Harvard has fifty three billion dollars in their endowment. They
have Again, it's not like they have to pay a
massive amount of tax on that endowment.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Every year.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
They return around to eight nine ten percent probably a
year on average, so they're growing that at a five
billion dollar a year clip.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I don't think that a.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Government should be in the business of dictating to colleges
exactly what they can do. But if you take our
taxpayer dollars, then the government does have a say in
what you do. I mean, that's been established for a
long time. Go back and read Bob Jones put in
my constitutional law hat when the government gives you money,
(10:52):
they have a right to be involved in the way
that you run your college and university. And I think
the biggest solution here as we sit on tax Day
is why are we giving billions of dollars in subsidies,
tens of billions of dollars in direct cash subsidies from
our tax dollars to these universities. They should be able
(11:12):
to make their business, which is the university, work without
needing any money from the federal government at all. If
they can't, they got to cut back like most businesses
would that don't have tens of billions of dollars in
federal dollars coming in. And I know what they're going
to do now, They're say the research grants that they're
gonna they're gonna try to promote.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The New York Times is going to come forward. Because
remember that this is this is this is like the
cathedral of the left. This is so important to them
to have dominance, not just of of education in a
broad sense, Clay, but of elite educational institutions. They have
seized so called elite. They have seized these places and
leveraged them for their own maximum benefit. They turn into
(11:53):
indoctrination factories for kids to come out with Yeah, I
know not everybody I went to Ammers, you know, you
went to you to law school at Vanderbilt, that you
can go to these places and not come out of communists,
but I'm sure Vanderbilt's probably well, I don't know how
left wing is Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think Vanderbilt is actually committed. A credit to the
new chancellor a Vanderbilt. They kicked all the protesters out,
they have the University of Chicago Free Speech Code. It's
been solidly committed. They just re signed the chancellor for
ten years. I'm really very confident in the direction Vanderbilt's going,
but I hope that other schools follow that lead. And
(12:29):
I don't think it's coincidental that Vanderbilt is able to
go that direction while being based in a state like Tennessee. Well,
I think the SEC schools in general, buck are a
little bit different than your northeastern Ivy League schools.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
As the weather gets better, the schools get less insane.
Not always true, but you know, I know there's Duke
and there's some exceptions to this. But as things get warmer,
I think you tend to have less the most the
most radical stuff is in the Northeast. It's where I went,
It's in the areas where I went to school. That's
where you have the craziest stuff. Maybe the Pacific Northwest too,
but there's nothing that that really can compare to how
(13:02):
crazy those places are. How you know, Brown University, Wesleyan University,
these these institutions. But Clay I would just say, I
think this is this is important. You know, Stephen Miller
is reportedly very much involved with this working group that's
that's going after that, and I think it's it's necessary
to put these universities on notice. They've been engaged in racism.
(13:24):
According to the Supreme Court, they've been engaged in racism
for a long time. These are racist institutions that are
getting These are constitutional violators. They are violating the right
that all of us have to be judged not by
the color of our skin, but by the content of
our character or by our SAT scores. They are in
violation and still to this day, they're trying to just
(13:46):
pull all these games. So part of we can get
into some of what the Trump administration wants them. They
want an end to all DEI programs. This is to
continue to get federal funding. They want access to admission
records because they know that all these schools are just
they're ignoring the Supreme Court. They're just going to keep
doing what they did, which is making sure that they have,
you know, the percentage of black students they want, the
(14:07):
percentage of Native American students they want, and so on
and so forth. They're going to do that, even though
that's a violation of what the Supreme Court has said.
So I think this is I think this is great,
and it also is going to change people's thinking because
one of the things, you know, Clay, I'll be honest
about this. Whenever I would have I don't know what
your experience was with this whenever. You know, earlier on
particularly my media career, like young conservators would reach out
(14:29):
to me. They would say, I have a professor who
is a communist, like, I'm going to write a paper
that really tells him. And I said no. I said no,
because I want you to get the best possible. I'm
not saying don't lie, like, don't write things that you'd
be embarrassed by. But don't think you're going to die
on this hill and be a hero by getting an
f as a student at some school your parents are
paying god knows how much money to sent or that
(14:51):
you're taking out loans to go to get the best job.
You can be as successful as you can help change
the country. When you get out of that place because
you're not gonna to change it really effectively from the inside.
I think the mystique of a lot of these places
is fading, and that's part of the power the left
is counted on, Like, oh, I went to Harvard. Even
you look at something, the people want to Harvard there, morons,
(15:14):
I know this.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Your wife went to the University of Florida. It's almost impossible,
the possible university.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
If we were just talking to one of our neighbors
whose boy wants to go there, and they're talking, they're
talking Ivy League equivalent SAT scores or act. I guess
if you're in the South Ivy League equivalent scores to
get into a University of Florida. Now everybody wants.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
To go University of Tennessee Buck. When I was a
kid seventeen eighteen years old, you basically had to have
a pulse to get into the University of Tennessee. They
have tens of thousands of applicants. Now it's become increasingly
difficult to get in there. University of Georgia, it's almost impossible.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
UF.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I mean, what's happening is people are voting with their
actual dollars and I'll tell you this. When I was
a kid, nobody from Chicago, LA or New York City
would brag about sending their to an SEC school.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Now they all do. It's a major cultural shift. You know.
I'm sitting here and I'm doing well. My wife, obviously
is the one who did all the hard work to
give our son life in this world, or bring him
into this world. And I gotta say my energy has
been pretty good and I only missed a couple of days.
I'm excited to be back. But part of it is
that for about six months now, I've been on a
(16:23):
health journey and chalk. I've got my chalk daily right
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Two dads.
You know, I forget that could be the subtitle the
show We've got two Dads down. So Play's gonna give
me a lot of advice because he's been this game
a while, seene some stuff. He has been to the mountaintop.
He's got the gray hair and the beard too, and
as he pointed out, I do too, but that's not
from being a parent.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You saw this. We'll have some fun later. You saw
that I went trending over my argument that men shouldn't
die their beard. Jason Day's wife got involved, Ohio State's coach.
We'll have some fun with that. At some point, I
was I.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Was chuckling, chuckling heartily at Clay throwing throwing sand in
the eyes of some folks in the sports media world
about the bearded, the dye of the bearding, the dye
and the beard whatever. You know what I mean. But
I wanted to get into this first before we should
definitely talk about that. It's a lot of fun, but
this is something that the Democrats are really dug in on.
(19:49):
You notice stock market is not in free fall or anything.
So that story has faded. Last week it was the economy,
He's gonna melt down. I was like, no, it's gonna
be okay, there's a pause, calm down. But this story
about the deportation of somebody who, now, it's interesting. There's
a lot of a lot of conflicting news reports on
(20:10):
this about what is established versus what is allege versus
you know what, has the Trump administration admitted there was
a mistake. No, Stephen Miller says there absolutely was not
a mistake. It's not. So there's just a lot of
you know, competing information and voices on this. But here
here's what I will say is interesting to me. You
see who the Democrats are rallying behind now. And I
(20:33):
don't mean as just like one day in the news cycle,
but you see the individuals who were at the top
of the Democrats list of concerns. And this is true
in the Democrat Party, Democrat media. It's MS thirteen gang
members who are being deported. It is you know, anti
Semitic pro hamas, you know, anti Jewish campus protester types.
(20:55):
Oh we're so we're so upset and worried about them,
They're rallying behind this seventeen year old who allegedly because
you know, we have to say that murdered a young
man at a high school football game. You're seeing these
are the people the Left chooses to spend its energy
and time trying to defend, build up, create stories, even
(21:17):
lie about to promote them. So I just think that's
it's interesting because Trump is forcing them, at least in
the case of these deportation issues, to defend people that
you say to yourself, really, this is where you're gonna
put all your energy. Scott Jennings. Scott Jennings was on
CNN talking about just this issue of focus and where
(21:38):
the Democrats focus. This has cut six. Listen to what
he had to say about the quote Maryland man that
has been deported play it.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
What they also believe is that politically, the American people
want them to be as aggressive as possible and pull
all the levers they can pull to solve the crisis
that has festered for years. And you know that we
keep calling this guy Maryland man in the press. Nobody's
seen to worry about the Maryland mother, Rachel Morin, who
was murdered by someone that the previous administration let out
(22:06):
of jail.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I mean clail. I actually think this is an even
more powerful analogy, or more apt analogy than maybe people
think at first glance, because it really has been Democrat
policy that we're just not going to force the laws
about immigration. And if that means that people are going
to die and be raped and murdered by illegals who
shouldn't be in the country in the first place, that's
the cost of doing business. But if one person, one
(22:30):
person is deported who should have had, you know, an
extra ten minutes in front of a judge somewhere, the
republic is falling. That's really the position they take.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I told you that this is exactly what was going
to happen with the deportations. You can go back seven
or eight months. I said, they're going to find one
person that they decide is their poster board for someone
who shouldn't have been deported, and they're going to try
to use it as a anecdote to try to destroy
(23:00):
the entire deportation process. And so that's what they've done.
And based on my research on this guy, he shouldn't
be here. And I think the point that Scott Jennings made,
and that you're making is well taken, and it built
on what I said yesterday.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'm sure you saw the Taylor Lorenz defending the would
be killer of the in the United Healthcare CEO said
he was a morally upstanding man.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Effectively, that was the other one that I left off
the list. It's it's Luigi, Yeah, it's MS thirteen gang members,
it's anti Semitic pro Homas protesters.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I think what it is is they've lost the ability
to distinguish between good and evil, and I think, unfortunately,
what it they just support evil Clay.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
That's also a possibility, like maybe they just have something,
there's something about them that they want to root for
the bad guys.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Well, that's interesting. I actually think it's just identity politics.
What do all of these things have in common. The
brown skinned person has done something wrong, with the exception
of Luigi, which is obviously I think indefensible what he
is alleged to have done, and so they're trying to
use their identity politics worldview, even though it doesn't apply.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
The situation.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
October seventh is the perfect one, right, that is, Jewish
people were attacked on October seventh, twelve hundred innocent Jewish
people were killed, and the fact that the Jews are
seen as white, even though as we have talked about,
like there's a lot of people, a variety of different
skin tones, who are Jewish, they don't have the facility
to be able to analyze good and evil because the
(24:40):
prism through which they see good and evil is based
on race. And so all of this is directly connected
to the idea that white people are pressers, and so
what happens to a white person is justified. Here's a
good question for you. And again, I hate to go
Time to Kill nineteen eighties book that John Grisham wrote
(25:03):
that later turned into the movie starring Matthew McConaughey. But
I think the story of the United Healthcare CEO would
be very different if the United Healthcare CEO had been
a minority, because then you would have a white guy
walking up to a minority on a street corner in
New York City outside of a prominent Manhattan hotel, committing
(25:26):
an execution on camera, and the argument would be, well,
why in the world was this allowed to happen. This
is white supremacy, right, Like this guy just thinks that
he can take a life at any point in time,
and so they there's also tools to build it.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I don't think there was enough focus put on this
because it is, you know, it is the extreme end,
but it is where identity politics and left wing and
doctrination can take a deranged person or a person and
make them more deranged. And it was that the fist
shooter in Tennessee was trying to kill little boys and
(26:05):
girls in school, but wanted to make sure that no
one thought she was racist. Okay, great point. That's a
real thing, everybody. That's one of the things they didn't
want you to know. To the manifesto, a trans terrorist
is gonna murder with little little kids, Okay, helpless little children.
And she doesn't though, want people that that she wants
to be her like renowned, that's he that's her legacy
(26:27):
or whatever. But she doesn't want anyone think she's racist
because that that for posterity would be really saying it is.
It is really such a good point and an awful
one that in her writings she was so cognizant of
leftist ideology that she wanted to make sure the people
she targeted were white so she didn't get called racist.
After she killed a bunch of innocent people, let us
(26:48):
boil us down.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
She also killed a black worker at the school, so
she killed everybody. But the fact that that was how
broken her brain was that she was still applying leftist
ideology in that way.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well you also, you see that she's fine being a
child murderer, yes, but would not be fine if people
thought that she was a racist. That is how I mean,
this is how fundamentalist the left wing identity politics religion
has become better to be a child murderer than a racist,
(27:22):
or rather be considered a She's not even you know,
that's the thing. It's just the perception that she would
be a racist, and so she changed her target set.
You know. This is this is why a lot, a
lot of the stuff that Trump is doing and taking
on here is so important and so powerful, because there
has been really a weaponization of resentment that has occurred
through identity politics for a long time now, and people
(27:46):
have grown tired of it and enough is enough, and
that that needs there needs to be action taken. But
but Clay, you're right about how all these different individuals, uh,
the way that race plays into the to the view
of the left that these are a victim cases. I'll
just say this, if you have a you know, a
like white attorney who is representing or rather who is
(28:11):
in trouble or something. For one of these cases, I
saw something about some woman said that she was gonna
be deported, and she's like a civil rights attorney. That's
not going to get the attention the same way that
a guy named like mof Mood whatever his name is,
who is being deported right, and that's not going to
get attention from left, the same way that this guy
kill mar Abrego Garcia is getting all this attention, the
(28:33):
same way that I know that this is gonna seem
like I'm taking us I'm weaving too much. But can
I just throw this in there because I didn't get
to talk about this. I thought this was interesting that
they found this altar. They found this altar in Guatemaladi.
Do you see this clay and the altar is.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
For my where they were, yeah, where they were killing
young kids, like sacrificing young kids hundreds of years ago.
But yes, yeah, no, no, of course, right, but this
is an ancient civilization used for sacrifice and want people
to think that this was a modern story yet but yes.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But it's just so fascinating when you see the online conversations.
People try to create these. Here you go, here's the
here's a quote. Here's a quote from an archaeologist. Okay,
they found a child sacrifice alter from the Mayans. Okay,
this is established by the archaeologists, and this is you're
gonna see how this connects with what we're talking about
(29:27):
a second ago. And they will lecture us, oh my gosh,
about colonization and the lectures. But all these things they
find and tens of thousands of children were brutally mutilated
and murdered at this altar by the Mayans, their own children.
It's like the Canaanite deity Malik. You know, when the
(29:47):
Israelites came in, there was a Canaanite deity. It's in
the Bible. Many of you know this Moloch, and it
was the god of child sacrifice. They had this clay.
Here's what the archaeologist says. We see how the issue
of sacrifice exists in these cultures. It was a practice.
It's not that they were violent, it was their way
of connecting with celestial bodies. Does anyone think that if
(30:09):
we found a child's sacrifice alter in you know, the
center of Ireland, that the archaeologists would be saying, well,
this isn't violent, it's about you know, it's about religion,
so that doesn't count. They always take this view. They
always racialize everything, and the race component plays into the
(30:30):
way the left sees everything, including these different individuals today
that they're all rallying behind. Well, and I think again,
it's it's why so many people out there have lost
the ability to distinguish between good and evil. Good and
evil isn't based on race, It isn't based on gender,
It isn't based on ethnicity, it isn't based on what
country you live in.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Most of us have an innate moral code that we
can apply, and if you can't, it's why in an
ideal world, I always come back to it. But you know,
some of these older people, they did have pretty decent wisdom.
Lady justices blind when she weighs guilt or innocence for
a reason, because you're just supposed to apply the facts
(31:11):
and not allow your own perceptions, misperceptions, prejudices in any
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Speaker 5 (33:17):
I'm so glad to see him and to see you
guys so healthy and happy. I have a couple of
practical tips because I'm a practical lady and I got
a lot of kids. Number One, make sure your wife
is well fed and hydrated while she's recovering. Bring her everything,
Just bring her things. It really helps her get her
feet under her faster to have someone simply letting her
rest while she's just feeding a baby. Also, look up
(33:40):
wake windows. The biggest mistake I made with my first
kid was not knowing that she couldn't really be up
for very long thirty five to sixty minutes as a
max for a newborn, and I accidentally kept her up
too long and that made it harder for her to
sleep when she was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So wake windows.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
That's a good one. And finally, a lot of call
that you make as a parent that seems super important,
like preschools and weaning methods and potty training styles are
just calls on the margins, and they feel really big
in the moment, but they're not actually So if you
have the big values taken care of which you and
(34:17):
Carrie do, relax on the smaller stuff all right, have
a great time.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Enjoy That is Mary Katherine Ham from the Clay and
Buck podcast network.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Buck. I believe she has four kids.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Mary Katherine Ham does, so she has some idea what
she's talking about. She's been through the wars a little bit,
I would echo what she said. We're going to have
some good advice coming from a variety of people out
there in our universe for Buck and Carrie as they
get ready for baby number one. I do think that Twode,
as you get ready start to work towards number two,
(34:53):
I would say that that that is very true. I
hadn't really thought about it very much, but for the
first in particular, you obsess over every minute detail. By
the time you get to two, three, and I'm certain
by the time you get to four or five, if
you ever get there, like you are so much more
(35:14):
chill about a lot of the decisions that you make.
I can tell you by baby three you're just so
much more comfortable. But you do obsess over every little
minute decision with baby one, and then two and three
and on beyond. Rachel Accompost Duffy, who gave you, guys congrats.
I don't know if you saw it on the show
over the weekend, thank you for the kind words.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
We were actually in the hospital with the baby watching
Fox saw you hosting and saw the nice shout out,
so thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Well, she's got nine and so she I think probably
knows better than almost didny body.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
He was advising Carrie in the early days of us
dating about you know, he's a good guy and you
know what I mean. So I was like, thank you, Rachel.
I know that was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
So we'll be back. I want to talk Buck when
we come back. This crazy story out of Texas. You
have a kid who is stabbed to death seventeen years old.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
We talked about this a little bit last week.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
There's a fundraiser online set up for the person who stabbed.
That fundraiser has now raised five hundred thousand dollars. They
also just dropped the bail to two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars, and the family has now bought a five
hundred thousand dollars house that they are living in. Seventeen
(36:35):
year old stabs another seventeen year old. This goes to me, Buck,
the difficulty of telling the difference between good and evil.
Will break this down a little bit for you guys
when we come back. Thanks for hanging with us. Tuesday
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