July 18, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show focuses heavily on immigration enforcement, border security, U.S. policy toward Iran, the future of American media and entertainment, and the broader cultural and political battles shaping the country. Clay and Buck open the hour by discussing the show's expanding video presence and then immediately dive into the biggest news story of the hour: the controversy surrounding ICE vehicle stops and deportation operations. The hosts analyze reports that Immigration and Customs Enforcement had briefly altered enforcement tactics following recent shootings connected to immigration arrests before President Donald Trump reversed the change.
They examine comments from border officials touting record ICE arrest numbers and debate whether the administration is meeting its campaign promises on mass deportations. The conversation centers on illegal immigration, border enforcement, sanctuary-city style resistance, deportation policy, law enforcement tactics, and the political implications of immigration as a major issue heading into future elections.
The hosts spend considerable time discussing incidents in Maine and Houston involving ICE operations, examining questions surrounding officer use of force, suspects fleeing in vehicles, and the legal authority of federal immigration agents. Clay and Buck argue that reducing enforcement activity because of public pressure could undermine broader immigration objectives and encourage more individuals to evade arrest. They discuss how media narratives surrounding immigration enforcement can shift public attention away from other political stories and debate the role that protests and activist groups play in shaping public perceptions of immigration policy. Immigration reform, ICE enforcement, deportations, border security, and Trump administration immigration priorities remain central themes throughout this portion of Hour 1.
The conversation then shifts overseas to the ongoing conflict involving Iran. Clay and Buck discuss renewed military activity, ceasefire instability, strategic targets connected to Iranian oil infrastructure, and comments from President Trump regarding the possibility of future military operations. The hosts analyze sanctions, oil exports, economic pressure on Tehran, and the effectiveness of efforts designed to weaken Iran's financial position. The discussion explores Middle East policy, U.S.-Iran tensions, military strategy, energy markets, foreign policy, and national security considerations connected to the ongoing conflict.
A major segment of Hour 1 focuses on the future of the American entertainment industry and media landscape. Clay introduces reports that Paramount's proposed acquisition of Warner Bros. is facing legal challenges from a coalition of blue states led by California. The hosts discuss CNN, CBS News, media bias, corporate mergers, and the political influence of large entertainment companies. They focus particularly on speculation that Paramount could potentially relocate significant operations from California to Tennessee, arguing that such a move could have major implications for the future of entertainment, news media, and American culture.
From there, the discussion evolves into a broader examination of culture, Hollywood, and content creation in America. Clay and Buck argue that states such as Tennessee are becoming increasingly attractive destinations for businesses because of their lower taxes, business-friendly policies, and cultural environment. They discuss Nashville's growing influence as a creative hub, criticize what they characterize as ideological conformity within Hollywood, and argue that greater diversity of thought would improve television, film, and media production. The hosts highlight opportunities for new entertainment projects focused on American history, Western themes, and traditional storytelling, while praising content creators they believe have successfully connected with mainstream audiences. Topics include Hollywood, streaming services, television production, cultural influence, media consolidation, creative industries, and the intersection of politics and entertainment.
The hour also touches on broader economic migration trends as businesses and wealthy investors continue relocating from high-tax states such as California and New York to states like Florida and Tennessee. Clay and Buck discuss the movement of capital, corporate headquarters, investment dollars, and economic growth, framing these developments as consequences of differing political and economic policies across the country. They argue these shifts reflect larger changes in the American political and cultural landscape.
Near the end of Hour 1, the hosts take listener calls on the Paramount discussion and continue exploring how entertainment, media, and culture shape political outcomes. They emphasize the importance of winning cultural battles in
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay and Buck. I am down
in Atlanta as Buck's beloved English soccer team is prepared
to play against Argentina. I cannot wait for this game.
I am at News Talk Extra one oh six point
three in Atlanta. Thank you to that station for hosting me.
(00:23):
You can watch us on video now in addition to
the six hundred AMFM stations as well as satellite radio
that you are currently able to listen to us on.
Yesterday was the debut of all three hours of the show.
It was imperfect, but it went quite well. Something around
ten thousand of you came and hung out and watched
(00:45):
the debut episode of Clay and Buck video version.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
You can click the live button and you will be
able to go in and share your thoughts on who's
gonna win the big soccer match coming on later today,
as well as many other of the topics with which
we will be discussing with all of you, a bunch
of different things out there. Serious. We are going to
talk about the border. What should happen when it comes
(01:13):
to ice being able to stop cars. That is a
bit of a controversy. As President Trump has reversed the
rule that came out yesterday that stopping people fleeing in
cars was no longer going to be occurring. Trump said, no,
We're going to be doing that. Joe Biden's got a
new book. Fauci destroyed records and lied. According to Ran Paul,
(01:34):
who is preparing for that interaction, we got continued fallout
on the strait of horror moves and what's going.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
On in Iran.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Trump set down with Fox News as Trey Yankst, who
typically is in the Middle East and Israel, reporting on
things from there. We got some fun daylight savings time
potentially being made permanent. The House voted overwhelmingly to not
change the time anymore. A lot of people would big
thoughts about that. Todd blanche is testifying as he is
(02:03):
preparing to be the next Attorney General. It seems clear
that he is going to be able to be confirmed.
And Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary, is going to be on
with us at one thirty. But we begin buck with
the controversy coming out of Maine, another shooting involving an
individual they were trying to arrest fleeing in a vehicle. Initially,
(02:24):
Ice came out and said we are no longer going
to be stopping vehicles. And now President Trump when someone
is fleeing, President Trump has said, no, we're not changing
the policy at all. Let's dive in here. Tom Homan
talked about this earlier. We probably should get Tom Homan
on the program again in the near future. We've had
him on quite a lot. He said that we are
seeing record amounts of deportations. I believe this is cut five.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, let's change on vehicle stops. Lower the rat too,
Priky changing.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Your PRIs you know, I'm address that. I'm sick, get
tired of reading though, how the administration's losser with the juts,
with mastery deportations and do you know June last month,
Ice arrested more amiens than any month in the history
of the agency. So you know when people say Ice
(03:12):
is not serious about this job, last month the most
amiens arrested in the history of the agency, more than
last year, more than when you had the FBI atf DEA, Barbitro,
iceaw other Ice by themselves, weere the two eighty seven
g partners had the most arrested history of the agency.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Buck reports are that Ice was getting up to ten
thousand deportations a day, arrest that the process had accelerated.
This story out of Maine. We will see whether it
changes any of the storylines, whether it becomes somewhat akin
to what's going on in Minneapolis. I would say what
is different a little bit about Maine is it is
a high pressure, high intensity Senate campaign that is going
(03:52):
on there where Susan Collins is trying to fight off
whomever the nominee ends up being for the Democrats. But
what did you think about this shift, this counter shift,
the story surrounding whether or not ICE can be able
to stop people who are fleeing in vehicles. Okay, couple
things about the change in tactics from Immigrations and Customs
enforcement here, which is.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Under Mark Wayne Mullin's purview. And we should have Secretary
Mark Wayne on or Secretary Mullen on to talk. If
you say Mark Wayne, everybody knows you're talking about so
that makes it easy. But we should have him on
as soon as we can to address this because everyone
who like me and you, has been very concerned about
(04:35):
the state of illegal immigration into this country under the
Biden administration is now looking at this saying, Okay, guys,
I understand that you're better than Biden, but that's like
being better than the worst ever, so that's not really
that encouraging. I understand you've secured the border and you
and I told President Trump face to face last June
(04:55):
that that was just incredible and a promise made and
a promise Captain. We were high fiving, if you will,
President Trump on that one in the Oval office. Okay,
now let's look at this though. The problem that we
have on the first end of it is the number
is not enough, meaning ten plus million under Biden, and
(05:15):
we're looking at seven hundred thousand actual removals a year. Now.
I understand this year we're only midway through, but last
year it was something like six or seven hundred thousand.
And then they say there are the self deportations, which
I do think it's fair to look at the self
deportations as part of the equation because those are people
who are not supposed to be here who are leaving.
(05:36):
Question about that, though, is, of course, will they come back, right?
I mean, are they planning on staying out of the
country or they just going to wait for a Democrat administration.
But beyond that Trump said very often and repeatedly back
in twenty twenty four when he was running the largest,
the greatest, most beautiful deportation operation in the history of
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this country. And I don't think we're quite there yet,
and people are looking looking at this midterm as Okay,
time is starting. The clock is feeling like it's really running.
So that's part one of this, which is I think
they're doing good things and the administration is trying to
keep This isn't a betrayal of the promise or indifference
(06:16):
to it. I think that they set a very high goal.
They haven't gotten there yet, and people are frustrated. And
I think that's very fair, right, if you promise that
something amazing is going to happen, you know, then you
get a B plus. There's going to be some frustration.
And I think on the deportation number, Clay, it's fair
to say we're maybe in B be territory, maybe B minus,
(06:41):
maybe B plus, depends who you want to ask. Okay,
that's one part. The other part, though, and this is
maybe even more immediate, we should absolutely not have law
enforcement operations being changed because of leftist outcry. We saw
this in Minneapolis and that actually led to, in part,
I think the change in leadership. Clay, we cannot allow
(07:03):
street communists to chant that we no longer enforce via
these roadstop operations which are very effective immigration law and
concede and this feels like a concession. So you know
what I mean. There's the numbers and there's the concession part,
and that's not good. Well.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Also, the people who are violating the law are smart,
and I understand some people out there don't necessarily buy
into this, but they will adjust their tactics based on
what they know the law to be. My concern is
if you say, hey, we're no longer going to be
stopping people who are trying to flee in vehicles, that's
actually going to create far more incentive for people to
(07:40):
flee in vehicles, right because you know, hey, if I
get in a car, they can't stop me, right, And
so my concern is that immediately leads to more people
rushing to try to get in vehicles, which actually could
put more ICE agents in danger than would be in
danger if they hadn't said anything at all. It is
interesting I will say that this ends up happening in Maine,
(08:02):
and that before it ended up happening in Minneapolis. It
feels like this story in many ways is designed to
try to take away from the story being that the
Democrat Party is in chaos, Graham Platner, everything else. Suddenly
it's like they wave that memory stick from Men in
Black and the storyline becomes, Oh, we're going to talk
(08:24):
about ice in Maine now, as opposed to talking about
how corrupt and dishonest and dishonorable the overall process of
selecting a Democrat candidate in Maine has been and buck
Remember they don't pick their candidate until the end of July.
This feels like they have upped the amount of angst
(08:46):
and antagonism in their ICE protests. They've now got a shooting.
We'll see what happened with that shooting. But I go
back to what happened in Minneapolis when those two individuals
got shot for communists, that was for people who don't
believe in the rule of law. That was the best
thing that could have happened to them because it turned
(09:07):
the story from deportation to oh, is is killing innocent Americans?
Even though when the videos came out with Renee Good
and then remember that guy Alex Pretty that they were
trying to turn into a hero. He kicked a tail
light out, he was on videos screaming at people, he
was carrying a gun. These people were not psychologically well,
but their deaths I really do believe this. For Democrats
(09:30):
and far left wingers, that was the best gift they
could have given because it changed the narrative course of
the conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So you look at these two incidents on July seventh
in Houston and on July thirteenth in Maine. One, we'll
start with the Houston incident, Clay, So you had a
fifty two year old Mexican national. He'd lived in the
US for a long time. What happened according to DHS,
(09:57):
and they're going to do a full investigation on this
and and we're still there are more facts and come in.
But agents were conducting and immigration stop and they said
that he this guy allegedly tried to evade them in
the car, rammed an ice vehicle, ignored commands, and tried
to run over an officer, and an agent fired in
self defense. Okay, that's one. In the second incident in Maine,
(10:22):
twenty six year old Columbian man was he was a
food delivery driver, during an Immigration enforcement operations stop. He
was not the intended target, but they say that he
accelerated his car toward an officer and the agent fired
fearing for himself. In public safety, this is very straightforward
(10:46):
if your car is used, even if you're just panicking.
And this is maybe the part of those people in
understand if you freak out and you hit the accelerator
and there's a cop in front of your car and
they shoot you, it's sad, but it's not the cops fault.
That is a lawful use of for some of the circumstance.
They trained us on this. Even in the CIA, A
car is a weapon when you need it to be
(11:08):
all right, we did a lot of this stuff. It's
very easy to use your car. They've used cars and
terrorist attacks. Never mind on one individual officer in a
situation like this, they can be used for mass casualty attacks.
A car can be a weapon, a very effective one.
And so if you you hit the etcetera. Now there's
body camera, people were like, oh, but they're lying. There's
body camera footage, we're going to see it. There's eyewitness testimony,
(11:31):
we're going to hear it. All these things, But that
we would stop these enforcement operations because of outcry, not
in response to facts that are established, but outcry from
people who don't want any enforcement. Clay, this is the
time that has to be used to do these operations.
(11:53):
We don't have time to waste. So I view the
concession here very negatively. These enforcement The reason they were
doing these stops is they work, and now they're not
doing them, and they can tell. And you know, I'm
like a Tom Holman, big time fan, and he's going
to the numbers. And if Tom says that, I believe
it's true. Still, I think the administration and I think
(12:16):
DHS is making a mistake here by pulling back because
of public pressure and not just going Now, we'll have
Tom on. He knows a lot more about the nuts
and bolts of how these operations function than anybody. Well,
we'll invite him on to talk about this too. But Clay,
this is a critical campaign promise. Yes, affects everything that
Trump has been trying to get done. I will say
(12:38):
a part of me wonders whether part of the miscommunication
here is if they announce, hey, we're stopping, and then
we restart in a week, do they think that the
overall story gets tamped down and gets less attention. In
other words, is that the underlying intent here is not
to represent a long change of policy, but just to
(12:58):
take some heat off in the shore and then come
back to it when people are paying less attention. I
would guess that's probably the goal. The problem is here now.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The shift and the shift back has gotten more attention
than if you had just done nothing at all to
change anything, right.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that. My sense is they're
going to have to go back and mount these operations
up again. By the way, you know we're speaking of operations, Clay.
We're blowing up more stuff in Iran. Yes, blowing up
more stuff in Iran. How is that all going? Well?
We will have a talk about that. I think it's
important that we look at what's really happening there. So
(13:36):
that's coming up as well, no doubt, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
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(14:00):
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Speaker 2 (15:39):
Last learn and hang with the guys. Clay and Buck
pre said on the iheartapp. Welcome back in here to
Clay and Buck, and we have many things to talk
to you about today. The straight Orford Moose situation continuing
to be what it has, which is a stop start ceasefire.
(16:03):
When it stops. When the ceasefire stops, the bombs are dropping.
And that has been going on again. Trump was asked
by the way this has cut fifteen guys about a
ground campaign as part of this operation. This is what
he says, play fifteen.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Do you still intend to take cardo?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I can't say that to you because if I did,
it would be foolish'd but every nice to make a
little headlines, but it would be foolish. But I'll tell
you about car Island.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
So are not really not a ground campaign in a
limited capacity.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I don't want to say that either, but I would
say no if I thought it was appropriate. Sometimes you
need a ground campaign, but we have other people that
will do the ground campaign for us. But we already
hit carg Island, as you know, twice, even three times.
I said, hit everything, but the oil. Just leave that
little area. If I'm twenty five yards out, leave that
a little area. Don't touch you ill, because I don't
(16:51):
want that. In terms of the world economy, it's a
you know, it's a chunk of the world economy. So
we haven't hit that. At some point we could, but
I think it's und like clay.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
There's a mismatch here with what we have been told
about the pain of the Iranian oil industry for Iran's
bottom line and what we are seeing play out. That's
the part of this that we were told, Oh, they're
about to be able to you know, they can't even
find a place to put the oil, and it's all
going to come crashing down. Apparently not well.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I think we gave them a little bit of a
get out of jail free card with the first thirty days.
Supposedly they got out tens of millions of barrels of oil.
And now we've ended that the blockade is back in
place for everything relating to Iran. But I think we
forestalled the challenges that they were going to have from
a storage and production capacity with our decision to give
(17:49):
them basically thirty days off. So I don't know how
many days we would have to put the blockade back
in to get back to where we were.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
We're gonna be able to thirty days on, thirty days
off Iran war, Iran Selligan oil program. Wow, well, we'll
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Speaker 6 (18:53):
Speaking truth and having fun. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Back in Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
We are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program.
I'm down at News Talk Extra one oh six point
three and Atlanta appreciate them hosting me. Buck is up
in New York City. We had a fun day in
the city yesterday. Hopefully some good news to come out
of the way that we spent our time, and you
may be reading about that soon.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
But Buck, I wanted to hit you with this yesterday.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
When I landed in Atlanta last night late, I saw
that a story was starting to circulate. This is me
being a media nerd, but I do think it's an
interesting one. So Paramount is trying to buy Warner Brothers.
A lot of you probably haven't been paying attention to that,
but really the battleground now is to a large extent
about CNN. David Ellison, who owns Paramount and is trying
(19:46):
to buy Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers owns HBO, they owned CNN,
they owned a lot of different assets. They're being sued
by eleven I think it's twelve total Blue states. California
is leading the lawsuit. They're saying the merger can't happen.
This is really about what has happened to CBS News
and sixty Minutes just trying to be somewhat of a
mainstream news organization that isn't far left wing propaganda. David
(20:11):
Ellison wants to do that with CNN two. So they
are twelve states suing to try to stop the merger.
The Trump administration has said merger is fine to go.
Paramount has huge assets, as one does if you are
a movie studio a TV studio in California. And now
Paramount is thinking, because the State of California is suing them,
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that they may take their tens of billions of dollars
in yearly spend into the California economy and potentially move.
I am told the state of Tennessee, my home state,
is in the midst of a significant recruitment that could
lead to Paramount leaving California and moving to Tennessee. And yesterday,
(20:57):
maybe we can reach out and get the governor on
to talk about this of Tennessee, Bill Lee, he tweeted
yesterday in response to me, I said, come to Tennessee, Paaramount.
I'd like to have Paramount buck. We were talking about
this off air. Nashville is an entertainment capital. What have
we been talking about on this program for years now?
Maka Lewis and Clark television show Embrace American History, tell
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awesome stories, do movies that people really want to see
as opposed to a lot of this woke slop propaganda
that we see regularly being put out into the marketplace.
And so the Governor of Tennessee. After I tweeted the letter,
they've been negotiating and hadn't gone public yet. The governor tweeted,
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Tennessee is a place where innovation and creativity thrive. Paramount
has played an important role in shaping American culture, and
we'd welcome the opportunity to see the next chapter of
that story unfold in the volunteer state, Buck, you and
I have talked a lot about how politics is downstream
(22:00):
culture and how we have to win a lot of
culture battles. I know there's apprehension in the state of
Tennessee over a California company coming to Tennessee, but I
have to say I think Tennessee would change Paramount more
than Paramount would change Tennessee. I think they might well
start making different movies if they were based in the
(22:20):
heartland of this country, as opposed to in New York
and LA where most of these entertainment companies are. What
do you think, How would you see this and do
you think alongside of me that this could be an
important cultural.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Move I think it could be fantastic because one of
the things that has been a huge frustration on the
right for well as long as I've been alive, is
just the total dominance. Let me think about this, the
dominance that has occurred in our lifetimes, Clay of the
internet and technology sector because of Silicon Valley in the
(22:54):
San Francisco Bay area, and the entertainment capital not just
of America but of the world for movies and TV
shows has been Los Angeles. And that's a force multiplier.
It's not just those are big industries with a lot
of dollars attached to them. They shape perception, they allow
and shape and dictate communication. Uh, these are power centers
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that the woke left in California is in the process
of fully destroying and expelling to other places. It's gonna
take it takes time. It's gonna take a while. But
if you were able to, say, have some successful major
production set up for movies and TV set up in
(23:39):
the Tennessee area, you would be combining the you know,
the capital of country music for America with a growing
movie industry there. Because people still want, people want and
will pay for good content. This is one of the
lies that we have heard. And this is remember when
they the RIAA, the recording industry was is like suing
(24:01):
twelve year Olds for using napster, you know, suing like
a like a nine year old grandma because their grandkid
downloaded a few Metallica songs or whatever, and they were, yeah,
I do remember that. Yes, that was a real thing
that happened. You guys got to go back twenty years,
you remember this. That was the way that everyone said,
this is not the way people. There's still ways to
monetize music. There's still a lot of listening. You know,
(24:23):
people want content. You just have to maneuver with You
have to give them the content that they want first
and foremost. That's not what has been going on. I
mean the Netflix shows. You can see the quality of
Netflix shows over the last ten years has just plummeted.
It went from creating one hit after another incredible stuff.
Whether you love them or not, you could at least
(24:43):
respect the production value. But they've gotten worse. The same
thing with a lot of these Amazon Prime shows. They
have huge budgets, but it's run by the left wing oligarchy,
if you will, of the people that are green lighting
content at these places. If you expand that and you
have or you know, you expand where these things are
made to include Tennessee I understand that the company doesn't
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necessarily align immediately with the state's values. There would be
an influence and there would be a shift as well,
where you have I think many many more people who
could be brought into the creative industry who it's not
even about like, oh, they're Trump people. They are so
alim on this politically. They just want to tell great
stories and love America and take a pro American point
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of view in our content that has been sorely lacking
for a long time now. And and also, you know,
you don't have to deal with the DEEI stuff anymore.
It turns out, right you can make a good movie
about the British royal family without making it a trans
one legged Eskimo as the Queen of England, Like you
can do this well.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
One reason I want to see Young Washington is just
because it's a white guy playing George Washington.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I was expecting it to be a you know, al
that's almost a bold take right now, isn't it. Yes,
a guy who kind of looks like George Washington somewhat
playing George Washington. Really it should be a boss girl female,
but she's she's also non binary. That's who should play
George Washington.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I was really kind of holding out hope that George
Washington was going to be played by an Asian androgynous person,
just because I feel like that's what his vibe really was.
But I mean, look, the way you win is by
getting people to recognize that your arguments are better. And
I do think it's easier to win arguments if you're
not immersed in New York City in LA and if
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that culture doesn't drape over you. I've got a good
buddy who's very successful in the entertainment industry, and he
pointed out to me several years ago, and I've said
it on the program, but I know a lot of
you out in LA are going to kind of nod
along with this. It used to be Buck, that La,
first of all, was a city that everyone in America
wanted to visit. I didn't go to the state of
(26:56):
California for the first time until I was twenty twenty one.
I think is when I went, I had a roommate
from San Francisco. He didn't introduce me to Polish sausages
like your roommate, Buck, but he was a good guy
and we went out to We went out to San Francisco,
and it was just getting to see the Golden Gate Bridge.
Getting to go to Los Angeles was a big deal
(27:17):
first trip. I remember I got interviewed for a job
and I got to go to LA and I went
out to Santa Monica Pier and I got to go
visit LA and see the Hollywood Sign, all those things.
I remember thinking how awesome it was. LA was a
city of hopes and dreams that many people in America
aspired to go to.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So too was California.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And it used to be a city that really represented
eccentricity and creative types who had different opinions on a
large variety of issues. And now it's become a monolithic place.
And I was talking with my buddy who's pretty high
up in LA entertainment, and he said, as a result,
the movies are getting worse. Right, you have to have
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diversity of thought, which is the only real diversity that matters,
and diversity of opinion to create conflict, which creates something new,
something great, And we haven't seen that in a long time.
And I do think Nashville is becoming a thought capital
inside the state of Tennessee for a lot of different
thought processes, some of which I agree with, some of
(28:15):
which I don't. But based on the country music heartland example,
I think Paramount could thrive in Tennessee, and I applaud
the governor and Stuart McCord, his chief economic advisor, for
trying to get this done. And they say there's real
optimism here that Paramount might just turn their back on
California and say we're done with you guys. I think
it would be a big culture win. I love the
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whole thing. Look, I'm not a I like overall.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Taylor Sheridan, for example, just took fate and his future
into his own hands, became his own content creator and
has been massively successful and clearly is trying to make
entertainment for the people that are watching it.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, not for him his buddies at a cocktail party
that he wants to look like he's you know, doing
you know, white guys for kamala Ad or something. He's
actually trying to make. Now some of the things, some
of the stuff is better than others. Like some. I
like one of his movies, some of his shows, the
soap opera for Cowboys, thing with Yellowstone gets a little
crazy in the last season's disaster. Put that aside, though,
(29:21):
put that aside. I respect what he's done. There's a
lot more room for that. People want good content. Yeah,
remember when we were all told that if we didn't
have Twitter with the hand of the left just completely
on the scale all the time, all the time, making
sure that what trends is what they want to trend,
(29:43):
suppressing accounts that they don't like, all this kind of stuff,
And they pretended like it was all gonna be anarchy
and there would be white nationalists marching marching in the streets.
Ever the neo Nazis would take over America. No, it's
just not true. It was all hysteria and lies and
everything else. The belief that somehow people don't want content
now because we don't want a trans one legged Eskimo
(30:05):
Queen of England is a left wing delusion.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yes, if you don't want trans Eskimo one legged Queen
of England's, then paramount should move to Tennessee. And I would,
I would be ecstatic if we could make this happen.
So I think it's a story worth paying attention to.
And I think you have to win cultural battles ultimately
to be able to win political battles, and I am
optimistic that good things could be coming there based on
(30:30):
the insanity of California. Making poor choices has real results. Buck,
you live in Miami. Ken Griffin was with Citadel in Chicago,
got too dangerous, he left, and now he's evidently pulling
out a lot of his assets in New York and
going to Miami.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I just want to tell you, I actually I think
that this is all a good thing, though, because this
is nature healing, This is the yin and yang, this
is the balance, this is bringing it back. Of Course
it businesses. Of course Tesla left California. Of Course, paramounts
thinking about leaving California. Of Course Ken Griffin left or
is in the process of leaving a lot of the
(31:07):
investment that he would put in New York, in Mamdanie's
New York, into Florida. That's the way the system's actually
supposed to work, too. This is the thing. It's a
good thing, and we should all welcome this, because, Okay,
you want to betray the principles of capitalism, free markets
and rewarding winners and risk takers for doing amazing things.
(31:28):
You know, you can either be on board with those
principles and benefit from it. Or you can try to
tear trash it, tear it all down because of you know, envy, resentment,
and laziness by other people, and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
There's a stat yesterday, Buck, I was reading as I
was flying down, reading the New York Post print copy,
as I always like to get my print copy. Twelve
billion dollars in twenty twenty two, according to the New
York Post, left New York for other states that would
have been in their tax revenue. And they say in
one study, I think it was seven billion of those
dollars per year is now in Palm Beach County by itself,
(32:03):
in the Florida West Palm Beach where President Trump is.
The amount of money that is going into Florida tax
coffers because of awful decisions made by New York. It's
a real story, and California and New York are going
to be suffering over these decisions. I want to tell
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Speaker 6 (33:25):
Level up your brain and balance out your day with
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Speaker 2 (33:37):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Is it just me?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Or is a lot of our rejoy music. Seventies base
feels a little seventies. We pump up some eighties, some
eighties tunes in there. Producer Mike. Producer Mike is DJing.
I'm just saying a lot, a lot of seventy and
my dad loves it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Mike, my dad, I would say, we need more nineties,
is what I would say.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean, that would be fun too.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
But hey, your boys, I'm down here in Atlanta. I'm
actually if England wins. One of the things that I
think is going to be the coolest about England winning
from my perspective is getting to see everybody sing Wonderwall together.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I was in the car with my son after England
won that game and I said, you know, you really
need my fifteen year old.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I said, you really need to.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
He's finding all different sorts of types of music and
everything else. And I said, you really need to check
out Oasis. Back in the nineties, Champagne Supernova. They were
a phenomenon for like three years. They were everywhere for
they had a few songs, you heard it everywhere all
the time. And then that one guy was like, we're
bigger than the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That Everyone's like, oh my gosh, should they freaked out?
And the whole thing. So that's what ends up happening.
Dean in New York. You want to talk Paramount, Let's
go Dean.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Dean taking the call. Hey, yep, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yes, sir, go for it.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Hi, Sola, thanks for taking the call. First time caller,
longtime listener. Certainly look forward to checking out the video stream. Yeah.
Relating to Paramount Plus, I think rather than looking at
it as a comparable of whether Nashville where it will
impact Paramount or vice versa, I think it's more of
(35:10):
a realignment of cultural values. Paramount I think represents those
values pretty well with their products mostly the tailor shared
and stuff, the Landman and the Yellowstone and all in
that whole tree of products, you know, the Tulsa King
We all that stuff kind of represents those values. So
why would why would? Why does it make sense to
(35:30):
make those products in California? They're not representative of those values.
So I think it's a great, you know, alignment, and
I look forward to seeing how that turns out.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I say it would be amazing to do a really
good Davy Crockett movie with the sort of aesthetic of
like Last of the Mohicans, you know, like Michael Mann
at his peak Last of the Mohicans, you do like
a really peak Davy Crockett movie obviously ending in the Alamo,
but you could actually do Davy's life before that would
be that would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Daniel Boone, Oh yeah, you know there's a moment, by
the way, is Dave Crockett's favorite coffee. So go check
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There's a moment in Undaunted Courage where Daniel Boone meets
Lewis and Clark Buck that actually happened. One of the coolest.
Unbelieve Daniel Boone had made it all the way. I
(36:16):
believe it was out to Missouri at the time, and
the fact that he actually met the Lewis and Clark
guys as they were beginning their escapade. The Daniel Boone
stories are also incredible. We'll take some more of your calls.
Eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.
We need to win back culture and I say, moved
to Tennessee. Paramount. Make it happen. Buck, what you got
(36:36):
for when come back on the flip side. Here, we're
gonna tuck lions, tigers and bears, Biden's new book. How
about Biden's new book and med school Dean doesn't know
Speaker 2 (36:47):
And his secretary of the Department of Transportation on the
airplane tarmac delays
Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay and Buck. I am down
in Atlanta as Buck's beloved English soccer team is prepared
to play against Argentina. I cannot wait for this game.
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as well as many other of the topics with which
we will be discussing with all of you, a bunch
of different things out there. Serious. We are going to
talk about the border. What should happen when it comes
(01:13):
to ice being able to stop cars. That is a
bit of a controversy. As President Trump has reversed the
rule that came out yesterday that stopping people fleeing in
cars was no longer going to be occurring. Trump said, no,
We're going to be doing that. Joe Biden's got a
new book. Fauci destroyed records and lied. According to Ran Paul,
(01:34):
who is preparing for that interaction, we got continued fallout
on the strait of horror moves and what's going.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
On in Iran.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Trump set down with Fox News as Trey Yankst, who
typically is in the Middle East and Israel, reporting on
things from there. We got some fun daylight savings time
potentially being made permanent. The House voted overwhelmingly to not
change the time anymore. A lot of people would big
thoughts about that. Todd blanche is testifying as he is
(02:03):
preparing to be the next Attorney General. It seems clear
that he is going to be able to be confirmed.
And Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary, is going to be on
with us at one thirty. But we begin buck with
the controversy coming out of Maine, another shooting involving an
individual they were trying to arrest fleeing in a vehicle. Initially,
(02:24):
Ice came out and said we are no longer going
to be stopping vehicles. And now President Trump when someone
is fleeing, President Trump has said, no, we're not changing
the policy at all. Let's dive in here. Tom Homan
talked about this earlier. We probably should get Tom Homan
on the program again in the near future. We've had
him on quite a lot. He said that we are
seeing record amounts of deportations. I believe this is cut five.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, let's change on vehicle stops. Lower the rat too,
Priky changing.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Your PRIs you know, I'm address that. I'm sick, get
tired of reading though, how the administration's losser with the juts,
with mastery deportations and do you know June last month,
Ice arrested more amiens than any month in the history
of the agency. So you know when people say Ice
(03:12):
is not serious about this job, last month the most
amiens arrested in the history of the agency, more than
last year, more than when you had the FBI atf DEA, Barbitro,
iceaw other Ice by themselves, weere the two eighty seven
g partners had the most arrested history of the agency.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Buck reports are that Ice was getting up to ten
thousand deportations a day, arrest that the process had accelerated.
This story out of Maine. We will see whether it
changes any of the storylines, whether it becomes somewhat akin
to what's going on in Minneapolis. I would say what
is different a little bit about Maine is it is
a high pressure, high intensity Senate campaign that is going
(03:52):
on there where Susan Collins is trying to fight off
whomever the nominee ends up being for the Democrats. But
what did you think about this shift, this counter shift,
the story surrounding whether or not ICE can be able
to stop people who are fleeing in vehicles. Okay, couple
things about the change in tactics from Immigrations and Customs
enforcement here, which is.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Under Mark Wayne Mullin's purview. And we should have Secretary
Mark Wayne on or Secretary Mullen on to talk. If
you say Mark Wayne, everybody knows you're talking about so
that makes it easy. But we should have him on
as soon as we can to address this because everyone
who like me and you, has been very concerned about
(04:35):
the state of illegal immigration into this country under the
Biden administration is now looking at this saying, Okay, guys,
I understand that you're better than Biden, but that's like
being better than the worst ever, so that's not really
that encouraging. I understand you've secured the border and you
and I told President Trump face to face last June
(04:55):
that that was just incredible and a promise made and
a promise Captain. We were high fiving, if you will,
President Trump on that one in the Oval office. Okay,
now let's look at this though. The problem that we
have on the first end of it is the number
is not enough, meaning ten plus million under Biden, and
(05:15):
we're looking at seven hundred thousand actual removals a year. Now.
I understand this year we're only midway through, but last
year it was something like six or seven hundred thousand.
And then they say there are the self deportations, which
I do think it's fair to look at the self
deportations as part of the equation because those are people
who are not supposed to be here who are leaving.
(05:36):
Question about that, though, is, of course, will they come back, right?
I mean, are they planning on staying out of the
country or they just going to wait for a Democrat administration.
But beyond that Trump said very often and repeatedly back
in twenty twenty four when he was running the largest,
the greatest, most beautiful deportation operation in the history of
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this country. And I don't think we're quite there yet,
and people are looking looking at this midterm as Okay,
time is starting. The clock is feeling like it's really running.
So that's part one of this, which is I think
they're doing good things and the administration is trying to
keep This isn't a betrayal of the promise or indifference
(06:16):
to it. I think that they set a very high goal.
They haven't gotten there yet, and people are frustrated. And
I think that's very fair, right, if you promise that
something amazing is going to happen, you know, then you
get a B plus. There's going to be some frustration.
And I think on the deportation number, Clay, it's fair
to say we're maybe in B be territory, maybe B minus,
(06:41):
maybe B plus, depends who you want to ask. Okay,
that's one part. The other part, though, and this is
maybe even more immediate, we should absolutely not have law
enforcement operations being changed because of leftist outcry. We saw
this in Minneapolis and that actually led to, in part,
I think the change in leadership. Clay, we cannot allow
(07:03):
street communists to chant that we no longer enforce via
these roadstop operations which are very effective immigration law and
concede and this feels like a concession. So you know
what I mean. There's the numbers and there's the concession part,
and that's not good. Well.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Also, the people who are violating the law are smart,
and I understand some people out there don't necessarily buy
into this, but they will adjust their tactics based on
what they know the law to be. My concern is
if you say, hey, we're no longer going to be
stopping people who are trying to flee in vehicles, that's
actually going to create far more incentive for people to
(07:40):
flee in vehicles, right because you know, hey, if I
get in a car, they can't stop me, right, And
so my concern is that immediately leads to more people
rushing to try to get in vehicles, which actually could
put more ICE agents in danger than would be in
danger if they hadn't said anything at all. It is
interesting I will say that this ends up happening in Maine,
(08:02):
and that before it ended up happening in Minneapolis. It
feels like this story in many ways is designed to
try to take away from the story being that the
Democrat Party is in chaos, Graham Platner, everything else. Suddenly
it's like they wave that memory stick from Men in
Black and the storyline becomes, Oh, we're going to talk
(08:24):
about ice in Maine now, as opposed to talking about
how corrupt and dishonest and dishonorable the overall process of
selecting a Democrat candidate in Maine has been and buck
Remember they don't pick their candidate until the end of July.
This feels like they have upped the amount of angst
(08:46):
and antagonism in their ICE protests. They've now got a shooting.
We'll see what happened with that shooting. But I go
back to what happened in Minneapolis when those two individuals
got shot for communists, that was for people who don't
believe in the rule of law. That was the best
thing that could have happened to them because it turned
(09:07):
the story from deportation to oh, is is killing innocent Americans?
Even though when the videos came out with Renee Good
and then remember that guy Alex Pretty that they were
trying to turn into a hero. He kicked a tail
light out, he was on videos screaming at people, he
was carrying a gun. These people were not psychologically well,
but their deaths I really do believe this. For Democrats
(09:30):
and far left wingers, that was the best gift they
could have given because it changed the narrative course of
the conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
So you look at these two incidents on July seventh
in Houston and on July thirteenth in Maine. One, we'll
start with the Houston incident, Clay, So you had a
fifty two year old Mexican national. He'd lived in the
US for a long time. What happened according to DHS,
(09:57):
and they're going to do a full investigation on this
and and we're still there are more facts and come in.
But agents were conducting and immigration stop and they said
that he this guy allegedly tried to evade them in
the car, rammed an ice vehicle, ignored commands, and tried
to run over an officer, and an agent fired in
self defense. Okay, that's one. In the second incident in Maine,
(10:22):
twenty six year old Columbian man was he was a
food delivery driver, during an Immigration enforcement operations stop. He
was not the intended target, but they say that he
accelerated his car toward an officer and the agent fired
fearing for himself. In public safety, this is very straightforward
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if your car is used, even if you're just panicking.
And this is maybe the part of those people in
understand if you freak out and you hit the accelerator
and there's a cop in front of your car and
they shoot you, it's sad, but it's not the cops fault.
That is a lawful use of for some of the circumstance.
They trained us on this. Even in the CIA, A
car is a weapon when you need it to be
(11:08):
all right, we did a lot of this stuff. It's
very easy to use your car. They've used cars and
terrorist attacks. Never mind on one individual officer in a
situation like this, they can be used for mass casualty attacks.
A car can be a weapon, a very effective one.
And so if you you hit the etcetera. Now there's
body camera, people were like, oh, but they're lying. There's
body camera footage, we're going to see it. There's eyewitness testimony,
(11:31):
we're going to hear it. All these things, But that
we would stop these enforcement operations because of outcry, not
in response to facts that are established, but outcry from
people who don't want any enforcement. Clay, this is the
time that has to be used to do these operations.
(11:53):
We don't have time to waste. So I view the
concession here very negatively. These enforcement The reason they were
doing these stops is they work, and now they're not
doing them, and they can tell. And you know, I'm
like a Tom Holman, big time fan, and he's going
to the numbers. And if Tom says that, I believe
it's true. Still, I think the administration and I think
(12:16):
DHS is making a mistake here by pulling back because
of public pressure and not just going Now, we'll have
Tom on. He knows a lot more about the nuts
and bolts of how these operations function than anybody. Well,
we'll invite him on to talk about this too. But Clay,
this is a critical campaign promise. Yes, affects everything that
Trump has been trying to get done. I will say
(12:38):
a part of me wonders whether part of the miscommunication
here is if they announce, hey, we're stopping, and then
we restart in a week, do they think that the
overall story gets tamped down and gets less attention. In
other words, is that the underlying intent here is not
to represent a long change of policy, but just to
(12:58):
take some heat off in the shore and then come
back to it when people are paying less attention. I
would guess that's probably the goal. The problem is here now.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
The shift and the shift back has gotten more attention
than if you had just done nothing at all to
change anything, right.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that. My sense is they're
going to have to go back and mount these operations
up again. By the way, you know we're speaking of operations, Clay.
We're blowing up more stuff in Iran. Yes, blowing up
more stuff in Iran. How is that all going? Well?
We will have a talk about that. I think it's
important that we look at what's really happening there. So
(13:36):
that's coming up as well, no doubt, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
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Speaker 2 (15:39):
Last learn and hang with the guys. Clay and Buck
pre said on the iheartapp. Welcome back in here to
Clay and Buck, and we have many things to talk
to you about today. The straight Orford Moose situation continuing
to be what it has, which is a stop start ceasefire.
(16:03):
When it stops. When the ceasefire stops, the bombs are dropping.
And that has been going on again. Trump was asked
by the way this has cut fifteen guys about a
ground campaign as part of this operation. This is what
he says, play fifteen.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Do you still intend to take cardo?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I can't say that to you because if I did,
it would be foolish'd but every nice to make a
little headlines, but it would be foolish. But I'll tell
you about car Island.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
So are not really not a ground campaign in a
limited capacity.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I don't want to say that either, but I would
say no if I thought it was appropriate. Sometimes you
need a ground campaign, but we have other people that
will do the ground campaign for us. But we already
hit carg Island, as you know, twice, even three times.
I said, hit everything, but the oil. Just leave that
little area. If I'm twenty five yards out, leave that
a little area. Don't touch you ill, because I don't
(16:51):
want that. In terms of the world economy, it's a
you know, it's a chunk of the world economy. So
we haven't hit that. At some point we could, but
I think it's und like clay.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
There's a mismatch here with what we have been told
about the pain of the Iranian oil industry for Iran's
bottom line and what we are seeing play out. That's
the part of this that we were told, Oh, they're
about to be able to you know, they can't even
find a place to put the oil, and it's all
going to come crashing down. Apparently not well.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I think we gave them a little bit of a
get out of jail free card with the first thirty days.
Supposedly they got out tens of millions of barrels of oil.
And now we've ended that the blockade is back in
place for everything relating to Iran. But I think we
forestalled the challenges that they were going to have from
a storage and production capacity with our decision to give
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them basically thirty days off. So I don't know how
many days we would have to put the blockade back
in to get back to where we were.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
We're gonna be able to thirty days on, thirty days
off Iran war, Iran Selligan oil program. Wow, well, we'll
talk about it. Look, nearly every president we've had since
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eighties where President Trump. The recognition of Israel's belief in
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Speaker 6 (18:53):
Speaking truth and having fun. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Back in Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
We are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program.
I'm down at News Talk Extra one oh six point
three and Atlanta appreciate them hosting me. Buck is up
in New York City. We had a fun day in
the city yesterday. Hopefully some good news to come out
of the way that we spent our time, and you
may be reading about that soon.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
But Buck, I wanted to hit you with this yesterday.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
When I landed in Atlanta last night late, I saw
that a story was starting to circulate. This is me
being a media nerd, but I do think it's an
interesting one. So Paramount is trying to buy Warner Brothers.
A lot of you probably haven't been paying attention to that,
but really the battleground now is to a large extent
about CNN. David Ellison, who owns Paramount and is trying
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to buy Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers owns HBO, they owned CNN,
they owned a lot of different assets. They're being sued
by eleven I think it's twelve total Blue states. California
is leading the lawsuit. They're saying the merger can't happen.
This is really about what has happened to CBS News
and sixty Minutes just trying to be somewhat of a
mainstream news organization that isn't far left wing propaganda. David
(20:11):
Ellison wants to do that with CNN two. So they
are twelve states suing to try to stop the merger.
The Trump administration has said merger is fine to go.
Paramount has huge assets, as one does if you are
a movie studio a TV studio in California. And now
Paramount is thinking, because the State of California is suing them,
(20:34):
that they may take their tens of billions of dollars
in yearly spend into the California economy and potentially move.
I am told the state of Tennessee, my home state,
is in the midst of a significant recruitment that could
lead to Paramount leaving California and moving to Tennessee. And yesterday,
(20:57):
maybe we can reach out and get the governor on
to talk about this of Tennessee, Bill Lee, he tweeted
yesterday in response to me, I said, come to Tennessee, Paaramount.
I'd like to have Paramount buck. We were talking about
this off air. Nashville is an entertainment capital. What have
we been talking about on this program for years now?
Maka Lewis and Clark television show Embrace American History, tell
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awesome stories, do movies that people really want to see
as opposed to a lot of this woke slop propaganda
that we see regularly being put out into the marketplace.
And so the Governor of Tennessee. After I tweeted the letter,
they've been negotiating and hadn't gone public yet. The governor tweeted,
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Tennessee is a place where innovation and creativity thrive. Paramount
has played an important role in shaping American culture, and
we'd welcome the opportunity to see the next chapter of
that story unfold in the volunteer state, Buck, you and
I have talked a lot about how politics is downstream
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culture and how we have to win a lot of
culture battles. I know there's apprehension in the state of
Tennessee over a California company coming to Tennessee, but I
have to say I think Tennessee would change Paramount more
than Paramount would change Tennessee. I think they might well
start making different movies if they were based in the
(22:20):
heartland of this country, as opposed to in New York
and LA where most of these entertainment companies are. What
do you think, How would you see this and do
you think alongside of me that this could be an
important cultural.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Move I think it could be fantastic because one of
the things that has been a huge frustration on the
right for well as long as I've been alive, is
just the total dominance. Let me think about this, the
dominance that has occurred in our lifetimes, Clay of the
internet and technology sector because of Silicon Valley in the
(22:54):
San Francisco Bay area, and the entertainment capital not just
of America but of the world for movies and TV
shows has been Los Angeles. And that's a force multiplier.
It's not just those are big industries with a lot
of dollars attached to them. They shape perception, they allow
and shape and dictate communication. Uh, these are power centers
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that the woke left in California is in the process
of fully destroying and expelling to other places. It's gonna
take it takes time. It's gonna take a while. But
if you were able to, say, have some successful major
production set up for movies and TV set up in
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the Tennessee area, you would be combining the you know,
the capital of country music for America with a growing
movie industry there. Because people still want, people want and
will pay for good content. This is one of the
lies that we have heard. And this is remember when
they the RIAA, the recording industry was is like suing
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twelve year Olds for using napster, you know, suing like
a like a nine year old grandma because their grandkid
downloaded a few Metallica songs or whatever, and they were, yeah,
I do remember that. Yes, that was a real thing
that happened. You guys got to go back twenty years,
you remember this. That was the way that everyone said,
this is not the way people. There's still ways to
monetize music. There's still a lot of listening. You know,
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people want content. You just have to maneuver with You
have to give them the content that they want first
and foremost. That's not what has been going on. I
mean the Netflix shows. You can see the quality of
Netflix shows over the last ten years has just plummeted.
It went from creating one hit after another incredible stuff.
Whether you love them or not, you could at least
(24:43):
respect the production value. But they've gotten worse. The same
thing with a lot of these Amazon Prime shows. They
have huge budgets, but it's run by the left wing oligarchy,
if you will, of the people that are green lighting
content at these places. If you expand that and you
have or you know, you expand where these things are
made to include Tennessee I understand that the company doesn't
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necessarily align immediately with the state's values. There would be
an influence and there would be a shift as well,
where you have I think many many more people who
could be brought into the creative industry who it's not
even about like, oh, they're Trump people. They are so
alim on this politically. They just want to tell great
stories and love America and take a pro American point
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of view in our content that has been sorely lacking
for a long time now. And and also, you know,
you don't have to deal with the DEEI stuff anymore.
It turns out, right you can make a good movie
about the British royal family without making it a trans
one legged Eskimo as the Queen of England, Like you
can do this well.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
One reason I want to see Young Washington is just
because it's a white guy playing George Washington.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I was expecting it to be a you know, al
that's almost a bold take right now, isn't it. Yes,
a guy who kind of looks like George Washington somewhat
playing George Washington. Really it should be a boss girl female,
but she's she's also non binary. That's who should play
George Washington.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I was really kind of holding out hope that George
Washington was going to be played by an Asian androgynous person,
just because I feel like that's what his vibe really was.
But I mean, look, the way you win is by
getting people to recognize that your arguments are better. And
I do think it's easier to win arguments if you're
not immersed in New York City in LA and if
(26:34):
that culture doesn't drape over you. I've got a good
buddy who's very successful in the entertainment industry, and he
pointed out to me several years ago, and I've said
it on the program, but I know a lot of
you out in LA are going to kind of nod
along with this. It used to be Buck, that La,
first of all, was a city that everyone in America
wanted to visit. I didn't go to the state of
(26:56):
California for the first time until I was twenty twenty one.
I think is when I went, I had a roommate
from San Francisco. He didn't introduce me to Polish sausages
like your roommate, Buck, but he was a good guy
and we went out to We went out to San Francisco,
and it was just getting to see the Golden Gate Bridge.
Getting to go to Los Angeles was a big deal
(27:17):
first trip. I remember I got interviewed for a job
and I got to go to LA and I went
out to Santa Monica Pier and I got to go
visit LA and see the Hollywood Sign, all those things.
I remember thinking how awesome it was. LA was a
city of hopes and dreams that many people in America
aspired to go to.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So too was California.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And it used to be a city that really represented
eccentricity and creative types who had different opinions on a
large variety of issues. And now it's become a monolithic place.
And I was talking with my buddy who's pretty high
up in LA entertainment, and he said, as a result,
the movies are getting worse. Right, you have to have
(27:54):
diversity of thought, which is the only real diversity that matters,
and diversity of opinion to create conflict, which creates something new,
something great, And we haven't seen that in a long time.
And I do think Nashville is becoming a thought capital
inside the state of Tennessee for a lot of different
thought processes, some of which I agree with, some of
(28:15):
which I don't. But based on the country music heartland example,
I think Paramount could thrive in Tennessee, and I applaud
the governor and Stuart McCord, his chief economic advisor, for
trying to get this done. And they say there's real
optimism here that Paramount might just turn their back on
California and say we're done with you guys. I think
it would be a big culture win. I love the
(28:37):
whole thing. Look, I'm not a I like overall.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
That.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Taylor Sheridan, for example, just took fate and his future
into his own hands, became his own content creator and
has been massively successful and clearly is trying to make
entertainment for the people that are watching it.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, not for him his buddies at a cocktail party
that he wants to look like he's you know, doing
you know, white guys for kamala Ad or something. He's
actually trying to make. Now some of the things, some
of the stuff is better than others. Like some. I
like one of his movies, some of his shows, the
soap opera for Cowboys, thing with Yellowstone gets a little
crazy in the last season's disaster. Put that aside, though,
(29:21):
put that aside. I respect what he's done. There's a
lot more room for that. People want good content. Yeah,
remember when we were all told that if we didn't
have Twitter with the hand of the left just completely
on the scale all the time, all the time, making
sure that what trends is what they want to trend,
(29:43):
suppressing accounts that they don't like, all this kind of stuff,
And they pretended like it was all gonna be anarchy
and there would be white nationalists marching marching in the streets.
Ever the neo Nazis would take over America. No, it's
just not true. It was all hysteria and lies and
everything else. The belief that somehow people don't want content
now because we don't want a trans one legged Eskimo
(30:05):
Queen of England is a left wing delusion.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yes, if you don't want trans Eskimo one legged Queen
of England's, then paramount should move to Tennessee. And I would,
I would be ecstatic if we could make this happen.
So I think it's a story worth paying attention to.
And I think you have to win cultural battles ultimately
to be able to win political battles, and I am
optimistic that good things could be coming there based on
(30:30):
the insanity of California. Making poor choices has real results. Buck,
you live in Miami. Ken Griffin was with Citadel in Chicago,
got too dangerous, he left, and now he's evidently pulling
out a lot of his assets in New York and
going to Miami.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I just want to tell you, I actually I think
that this is all a good thing, though, because this
is nature healing, This is the yin and yang, this
is the balance, this is bringing it back. Of Course
it businesses. Of course Tesla left California. Of Course, paramounts
thinking about leaving California. Of Course Ken Griffin left or
is in the process of leaving a lot of the
(31:07):
investment that he would put in New York, in Mamdanie's
New York, into Florida. That's the way the system's actually
supposed to work, too. This is the thing. It's a
good thing, and we should all welcome this, because, Okay,
you want to betray the principles of capitalism, free markets
and rewarding winners and risk takers for doing amazing things.
(31:28):
You know, you can either be on board with those
principles and benefit from it. Or you can try to
tear trash it, tear it all down because of you know, envy, resentment,
and laziness by other people, and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
There's a stat yesterday, Buck, I was reading as I
was flying down, reading the New York Post print copy,
as I always like to get my print copy. Twelve
billion dollars in twenty twenty two, according to the New
York Post, left New York for other states that would
have been in their tax revenue. And they say in
one study, I think it was seven billion of those
dollars per year is now in Palm Beach County by itself,
(32:03):
in the Florida West Palm Beach where President Trump is.
The amount of money that is going into Florida tax
coffers because of awful decisions made by New York. It's
a real story, and California and New York are going
to be suffering over these decisions. I want to tell
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Speaker 2 (33:37):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Is it just me?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Or is a lot of our rejoy music. Seventies base
feels a little seventies. We pump up some eighties, some
eighties tunes in there. Producer Mike. Producer Mike is DJing.
I'm just saying a lot, a lot of seventy and
my dad loves it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Mike, my dad, I would say, we need more nineties,
is what I would say.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean, that would be fun too.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
But hey, your boys, I'm down here in Atlanta. I'm
actually if England wins. One of the things that I
think is going to be the coolest about England winning
from my perspective is getting to see everybody sing Wonderwall together.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I was in the car with my son after England
won that game and I said, you know, you really
need my fifteen year old.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I said, you really need to.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
He's finding all different sorts of types of music and
everything else. And I said, you really need to check
out Oasis. Back in the nineties, Champagne Supernova. They were
a phenomenon for like three years. They were everywhere for
they had a few songs, you heard it everywhere all
the time. And then that one guy was like, we're
bigger than the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That Everyone's like, oh my gosh, should they freaked out?
And the whole thing. So that's what ends up happening.
Dean in New York. You want to talk Paramount, Let's
go Dean.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Dean taking the call. Hey, yep, can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yes, sir, go for it.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Hi, Sola, thanks for taking the call. First time caller,
longtime listener. Certainly look forward to checking out the video stream. Yeah.
Relating to Paramount Plus, I think rather than looking at
it as a comparable of whether Nashville where it will
impact Paramount or vice versa, I think it's more of
(35:10):
a realignment of cultural values. Paramount I think represents those
values pretty well with their products mostly the tailor shared
and stuff, the Landman and the Yellowstone and all in
that whole tree of products, you know, the Tulsa King
We all that stuff kind of represents those values. So
why would why would? Why does it make sense to
(35:30):
make those products in California? They're not representative of those values.
So I think it's a great, you know, alignment, and
I look forward to seeing how that turns out.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I say it would be amazing to do a really
good Davy Crockett movie with the sort of aesthetic of
like Last of the Mohicans, you know, like Michael Mann
at his peak Last of the Mohicans, you do like
a really peak Davy Crockett movie obviously ending in the Alamo,
but you could actually do Davy's life before that would
be that would be incredible.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Daniel Boone, Oh yeah, you know there's a moment, by
the way, is Dave Crockett's favorite coffee. So go check
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There's a moment in Undaunted Courage where Daniel Boone meets
Lewis and Clark Buck that actually happened. One of the coolest.
Unbelieve Daniel Boone had made it all the way. I
(36:16):
believe it was out to Missouri at the time, and
the fact that he actually met the Lewis and Clark
guys as they were beginning their escapade. The Daniel Boone
stories are also incredible. We'll take some more of your calls.
Eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.
We need to win back culture and I say, moved
to Tennessee. Paramount. Make it happen. Buck, what you got
(36:36):
for when come back on the flip side. Here, we're
gonna tuck lions, tigers and bears, Biden's new book. How
about Biden's new book and med school Dean doesn't know
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