May 2, 2026 • 54 mins
Former NBA standout Jamal Crawford drops by to talk about working with Victor Wembanyama to improve his handles and how much enjoyed breaking ankles when he was a player. Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame member and current head coach of the Dallas Mavericks, Jason Kidd talks about what it’s like coaching NBA Rookie of the Year Cooper Flagg, plus dishes on memories playing against Michael Jordan and playing with Steve Nash. Plus, was Draymond Green wrong for his comments about Steve Kerr?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Marvin kept telling me that Klay Thompson and Megan the
Stallion that that was going to last. And I told
you it wasn't gonna last, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I had hope for them.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, didn't he rename his boat the SS Stallion?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I do not know they.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I probably follow this a little too much, but Megan
the Stallion is really upset with Klay Thompson. It's not
ending pretty there. Yes, Paul, I.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Hadn't heard about any of this. This is wild. I
knew they were dating.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh, they were in love. But uh, yeah, I think
he named his boat. Now you can paint over that.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
That's an easy fa Yeah, with the next girl friend,
you don't have to give up half the boat.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
If they were like tattoos boat names, You're like, well,
I guess I'm either tattooing over this one. She actually
she was doing a Moulin rouge I think on Broadway
or something, and she tapped out early.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I think she's having a tough time. Yeah, yeah, but
uh she is Aaron some dirty laundry. You like to say,
we somehow make this smooth segue to Jamal Crawford. He
gets along with everybody, and you want to weigh in
on Megan ve Stallion and Klay Thompson.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Hey, the boat still has a cool name either way.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, I mean, but then people would be like, oh,
what's a Stallion? I mean, then you have to answer
it's now you can say, well, they call me the Stallion.
You don't have to bring up Megan the.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Exactly if Dan Patrick knows about that story, I'm sure
other than as will.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes, Okay, I have to apologize, Wow, because I dismissed
your ball handling skills because I always looked at you
as a scorer, right, and Marvin would send me videos
of you playing in summer leagues or in NBA games,
(01:57):
and I he jogged my memory and I'm like, oh
my god, you got handles that are probably amongst the
top ten handles in NBA history.
Speaker 8 (02:09):
Thanks so you believe me, So I should thank Marvin
for what happened. Yes, yes, Mark, thank you, Thank you
for Dan knows about you know, Meg and Clay, but
not about the handles.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Of who has a better handle than you.
Speaker 8 (02:27):
I won't say anybody has a better better handle than me,
and I won't say I have a better handle than anybody,
but there was a realm of people always give Isaiah
Thomas his credit, because that's why I watched Growing Up,
Kyrie Pistol, Pete White Chocolate. I think like Baron Davis
has an underrated he handle this, Steve Francis, a lot
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of guys like that, Chris Paul.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Okay, yeah, Kyrie has given credit I think by most
people having the best handles, certainly in traffic, which is
really want to see your handle in traffic? Anybody can
dribble when they're out there by themselves.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
So who's your top five handles? The better question?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, I did see Marribage play in person, and he
was actually underrated. I think people forget just Pete was
so far ahead of his time. Did Magic have a
great handle?
Speaker 8 (03:24):
Not in the traditional sense that we're talking about, like
they can shake it. Magic was more angle speeds. He'll
bump you who get the angle and he'll speed up,
and that's where the showtime Magic was a whole movement.
But it wasn't the handle part that I would remember
most about him.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What about Tim Hardaway?
Speaker 8 (03:40):
He would be up there, the killer Crossover, the UTEP
two step, his crossover was like it was right after Isaiah.
So it's still like really in the box. What I
mean by that is myself iverson, we drive it outside
of our shoulders. So we stayed outside the box harderway
Isaiah Thomas. They stayed in the box. But Kyrie does
a little bit of both, and that's when makes him ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's interesting when you say in the box, because that's
tight quarters and yes, and you're shaking somebody and Timmy's
I mean that crossover was killer. Now he would bump
you a little bit with his off his off arm.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
I saw that the summer at Hoops the gym, playing
with him and Michael Jordan. He was at the heat
at the time. I saw all the bumps and I
was a young guy coming up, so we had some
battles there.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Did Jordan have a good handle?
Speaker 8 (04:29):
His handle was it was to him like he would
surprise you at a crossover. But his footwork was so
good that it made the handle better. So he got
to a spot and then he up fated started doing
his footwork. That's what made his handle special. But it
wasn't like the handle like we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
What was the scouting report on Jordan.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Don't make him mad. You heard.
Speaker 8 (04:54):
Don't make him mad. He all personal, everything's personally you
know that. Damn I was watching the heard your voice
you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, Yeah, that was it. Just don't make him mad.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Don't make him mad. I mean, he was just so possessed.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
And we talked about talent, We talk about people that
can shoot or can do this or that. His competitive
spirit alone would have beat ninety nine percent of the
players who ever played. Just how competitive he was and everything.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You worked with Wemby over the summer on his handle, yep, Okay.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Yeah, I did a couples ago, but he tried last
summer and I couldn't. I was actually coaching. But yeah,
we were connected for the future as well.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Okay, are you going to work out with him this offseason?
Speaker 8 (05:40):
I'm pretty sure what we'll lock in and get if
he has time, I mean, if he wants his championship
and goes on this run and goes home. But yeah,
I'm sure in the future will work together.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But what are you working on specifically with Wenbignana?
Speaker 8 (05:55):
Well, with him, a lot of it was was the handle,
of course, but it was the footwork as well, and
the footwork translates everywhere. If you at the top of
the key with the handle, if you're in the mid
post area, if you're by the block. Well, people don't
really realize about handle is the ones who are really
special with their handle. Their footwork matches their handle. So
we work on his footwork every single area. And I
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have to say he was He probably downloaded things the fastest.
Like if I say something, he's like, got it and
can do it immediately. People I've worked with before it
may take a couple of weeks, a couple of months.
He could do it in five minutes.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
It was. It was I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
But what does he need to add to his offensive game?
Speaker 7 (06:40):
That's a great question.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
At that time, I thought it was the mid post
area because I thought where he was going on the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
I thought, and I'll tell you this because you're I
mean a legend, I'll tell you.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
But when I when he reached out to me, I
reached out to Pop and I asked Pop, like, hey,
where do you see him going? Because I didn't want
him doing my stuff, and they don't want stuff if
it wasn't going to finish all right, I didn't want
him up there rolling on the ground and doing that.
So Pop was like, I want him in that nail area.
I want him that Dirk area because I know where
we're going. You know, that's the area that's going to
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get him space and he'll be able to dominate. So
that was a huge focus as well, is putting him
in those areas. And we watched film. We watched Film
and a player. We're going to kind of mimic that
night for the second workout.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, you think about guys who changed the game. You
mentioned that Magic changed the game. I mean you can
go back to probably Bob Coosey change the game. There's
certain guys who changed the game when they came along.
Steph Curry has changed the game absolutely. I don't know
if did Michael change the game because he didn't have
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that signature like Steph changed. He had more of an
impact on basketball than anybody, I think, because everybody thinks
they can shoot threes now, nobody thought they could jump
like Mike, be like Mike. But I'm just curious the
number because Wemby feels like he's going to change the game.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
To answer the first part, Mike, to me didn't change
the game. In a way.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
He became above the game. It was almost like he
transcended sport in a way where you wanted to be
like be like Mike. I didn't care what you did, soccer, football, baseball.
He inspired boxing, whatever it was. He inspired Exbody Tyson
when they ran into each other. But he inspired everybody
else in every single thing. So he made you want
to be better at whatever you did. So that was Mike.
(08:31):
So he was a little bit above the game. Wemby
always say this. He was the creative player that created
players would create. So for example, if Lebron and Katie
were playing two K and like now with the seven
three dude, seven four dude who can shoot with handles,
who can run like a gazelle like, it would be Wimby.
He's the one that they would create to play if
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they were just playing around the video game.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Did Dirk Novinsky change the game?
Speaker 8 (09:00):
He did from the standpoint of shooting, because at that point,
for somebody that shot that good, it was like Larry Bird.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
Sixty nine six ten. Dirk was.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Dirk's championship run is really one of the great ones
in recent memory. It was so underrated for what he
did and how he did it who he was going
against with that great team and at that time, like
Jason Terry as sixth man was probably his second best score, right,
and then he just kind of put them on their back.
And actually that was the person I show a video
to Wendy when we're watching Dirk in that finals run.
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We're watching the areas he was dominating and how he
was doing it. But yeah, Dirk changed the game in
a small way. I don't think he'll get credit like Steph.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Will Yeah, in that mid range. I mean, Kevin Durantz
made a Hall of Fame career out of that mid
range jumper. And it feels like, and I always encouraged
players take it. If they're giving it to you take it,
and Durant has done that well.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
Dan, if I tell you i'm gonna I'm gonna drive
you to your studio and you're like, hey, the freeways
probably the quickest way, but right now it's a car accident,
so it's backed up. I'm gonna get some streets to
go through. I'm going to go through the streets. Right now,
the mid range is available because everybody's trying to take
out threes and layups. It's like the jab in boxing.
I think it keeps the defensive honest. Could you imagine
if Shay couldn't play in the mid range or Michael
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Jordan or Lebron or KD And it's funny and the
most important times of the season, in the playoffs, nobody
talks about all that's a bad shot.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
It's like, no move that scoreboard any way.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
You can the best players I've ever seen dominate the
mid range because it's hard to double team there and
you keep people so off balance with that shot.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Talking to Jamal Crawford, I love talking to you and why.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
It takes so long. Yeah, you're giving Rims all of
love right now.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You're right, You're right. It's an open invite. And now
that Marvin has let me know that I missed out
on your handles, God, I can't. I can't believe it.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
There's you Tube. You can still go back.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, no, Marvin sends me videos. I'm being honest, Yes, Marv.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
The move against Kirk Heinrich is easily one of the
five nastiest moves in the history of the NBA.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Mar Marv, I'm gonna tell you this. I played with
Kirk and Chicago when he kind of knew how my
handle pattern would go, and I made that move up
on the fly. I was literally coming down cour saying
what am I gonna do? What am I gonna do?
And I did it? And I was like, what I do?
And that's why you've never seen it again, because I
never mastered it. It was absolutely on accident. So I
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Why has it got to be against a white guy, Marvin,
that you're gonna single that out?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh man, I'm sorry, man, I mean he got Wes Matthews,
he got re Allen. I mean he was an equal opportunity.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah, I was an ego opportunity ankle taker. I didn't
I didn't care about that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Jason Williams had a that now that was a fun
to handle everything about you know, and his ability to
pass as well. When you factor that in, you can
have a handle. But he was He used his handle
to create opportunities, it felt like, for his teammates, and he.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Was so fun to watch, Like his entertainment value was
just unbelievable, and he had a totally different skip in
rhythm to his handle.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
I'll tell you a funny story.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
When I was a rookie, Chris Webber obviously was playing
with Sack at the time, and he knew I had
to handle it.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Was in the layup line and Chris got Jason.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Williams's attention, like, look look at Jamaal and I'm like,
almost age. I don't even know combination I did, but
I was trying to show Jay will that I had
to handle as will and getting was approval.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Yeah you can jove off.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
I didn't even play that night, but I went home
and told everybody, Jay Wilson.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I want to add this to NBA terminology. Shots discouraged. Okay,
so Wemby, you know, he discourages a lot of shots.
They should keep a stat of shots discouraged. And I mean,
maybe it's only a stat for Wemby because I love
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watching him play, but the number of shots that he discourages,
not even blocks, but discourages from you even taking the shots.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Well, he scares you. He's almost like the big kid
as a kid. You have to check his versus to
see if he's really that age. Like he said you up,
he'll turn his back like go ahead and shoot, No,
I'm going to get it. He's like something I've never
seen before. And what I figured out about him is
working with him. He's a big but he's really a
tall guard. Like I thought I was a tall guard
at six foot five, and then you saw guys like
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Durant McGrady who was taller than me, that can really
handle the ball, and then he just took it somewhere
we never thought would take it.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
When you see him, Dan, what excites you about him?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I just I looked at his touch, you know that
when he shoots. I wanted to see form. I wanted
to see rotation. I want to see touch. Obviously, the
defensive stuff was there. When he first got to San Antonio,
I said, you got to get him a point guard
to put him in position.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
To score, right right.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
We all did, yeah, and it felt like he was
he'd get down, you know when you see a deer,
you know when it's born, and it's kind of kind
of stumbling a little bit. He didn't know where to
sit up. And I kept thinking, he's already an A
on the defensive end, but he was probably a B
minus on the offensive end. And I said, boy, if
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he ever gets up to where he's going to be
the best player in the sport, he'll be the face
of the sport and that that's happening maybe a little
quicker than people thought, so much quicker.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
And the way he thinks, like the dinners we went
to were even more impressive than the on court work.
Like he read fifty books last year and he didn't
even tell me that stat So that's a book a
week that he read last year. Like he's a brilliant,
brilliant young man. It feels like you're talking to somebody
much older. But just the way he he's almost like
we know the freaky stuff he does with the role
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player type things he does. He's sprinds every single time
he sprints it to a screen. If he doesn't get
the ball, he's not mad, he's spritten back. He'll road
for rotation like he's Everything he does is like he
plays with the energy. He's trying to make the team.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Oh, by the way, it's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But that's what the NBA should show at the rookie seminar,
is that guy wants to play and be great every night.
There's no load management. I mean a blood clot stopped him,
but not much else. You know, if he gets banged
up a little bit, which he will, is a big man.
But I love that he wants to play and he
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wants to be great. He wants to be the MVP.
He wants to be the defensive player of the year.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
To be that young. Just take out the stuff he does,
just to be that age. Most guys are just trying
to establish himself. He's already so far down the road
that he's like, no, I understand my responsibility to the
game itself. We have to grow this game. We have to,
you know, make this game. Look at the USA versus
the World game. He made that single handedly competitive again,
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to be competitive, like he understands the responsibility. I saw
a picture of Joker the last time they played, and
Joker went off and they won, But there was a
picture of Joker kind of looking up at when he's
smiling like, and I said, Joker feels like how we
do when we watch him. This is the first time
he's like really excitedly. Oh my, I have somebody to
keep me again into the game.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
A different thing.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
What happens if the Pistons bowl out.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
I'm gonna be honest, I thought they were lose in
the first round, and I know Powell's the Seattle guy.
I just did because I thought, once you put two
on on Cad as good as he is, who else
is going to consistently be able to be a playmaker
consistently because you need all the playoffs. They want to
take out your first two options. Caid's gone. Who else
can do it consistently to beat a team? And I
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wasn't sure they could do it in a playoffs.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Eight.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Has Peyton Pritchard played in your pro am league?
Speaker 8 (16:35):
He has not, and he's close by hes in Oregon
in the summer. So I tried to get it, but
I think I gotta make it happen. I think if
I just tell him you only get to shoot shots
where the quarters about to end, I think that would.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Excite him everything.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I said Marvin summer league videos of Peyton Pritchard playing,
and he that's why this shouldn't be a surprise what
he's doing with Boston, Like if you even in college.
He was a great scorer in college. But I would
send those videos to Marvin and Peyton Pritchard he's he
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can be nasty.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
He absolutely can. You guys are you guys are changing notes?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Now?
Speaker 7 (17:16):
You're like, okay, here's proper. Let me show you this. Yes,
I see what you did.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
Great because he hied some of his friends, right, and
he hired them that play basketball, just the garden of the summer,
all different sizes of guys six seven, okay, this guy
is six two, this guy sixty four, and he had
to figure it out. So it slows the game down
for it. That was a brilliant way to train as well.
So it makes sense why he's tough to guard.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Wait a minute, he hired very it's you know, friends
of varying sizes to guard him.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Yeah, you know, all they do is for summer and
he has to figure it out. Okay, this guy likes
to do this. This guy does this and it's it's
a huge advantage because you're seeing people from different you know, athleticism,
standpoints and everything else.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Great to talk to you.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Always, You're the man.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Thank you, Jamal Crawford.
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Speaker 2 (19:16):
The Hall of Famer, he's the Mavericks head coach. Jason
Kidd back on the program. Before we get to you, Jason,
let me go around the room. If he didn't go
to Cow game, where would Jason Kidd have gone to college? Todd,
I'll start with you. The Arizona State Sun Devils, Okay,
Dylan UCLA, Marvin Kansas, Paul Kentucky I'm going to say
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the Kansas Jayhawks. You're right, DP, Yep, you were going
to Kansas.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I was going to Kansas.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
How did you tell who was it? Who was was
Roy Williams there?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Roy was there. At the eighth grade, I went to
the KU basketball camp, so Larry Brown was the coach,
Danny Manny. They had just won the national championship and
so that's that's when I was introduced to KU, and
that's where I was going to go until I made
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the decision to stay home to go to Cal.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And I remember you played a game in Allenfield House.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
We did. We lost the fall got us, but what
a great atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Oh yeah, when you talk just the.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Fans, they definitely have home court. But that's you know,
my dad was from there. So at the age of
twelve thirteen, I went to basketball camp and I was
playing with the eighth graders and then during camp they
asked me, but I go and play with the high
school kids, and I was all excited. I was going
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to be playing in allen Field House and unfortunately they
took me down the street and I was a little
upset that we were leaving the main court, and so
I wish I was staying with the Eighth Prayers, but
that's when I was introduced to playing with the high
school kids.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Okay, would you rather have your career or Cooper Flagg's
career moving forward?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Oh, I'm going to take Cooper Flag's career.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Wait, you're a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well, he's going to be one two. He's special when
you talk about being drafted at the age of eighteen
and now being nineteen. But just the way he carries himself,
you know, on and off the floor. His parents have
done an incredible job of keeping him humble and hungry,
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and so I think his career is going to be
way better than mine.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
When did you know that? Okay, he's real.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I asked two future Hall of Famers, Curry and Lebron,
because he participated with Team USA, and so I wanted
to know the truth. And so I went to those
two and asked him can Cooper play? And they both
said he's very special. And so talking to Cooper, I
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had him over for dinner and I said, hey, when
you were a Team USA, who were the hardest to guard?
And he brought up Curry and Lebron, and so I
was just like, yeah, those two are hard to guard.
But he goes, they just knew exactly what was going
to happen before it happened. And I said, that just
takes time. But those two are the ones that stood out,
and he said those were the hardest to guard. And
I asked those two about Cooper and he and they
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said he's very special. And I thought, you know, listening
to those guys, but once he I gave him the ball,
you know, early on, I knew that this young man
was going to do something special.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I think I was critical of you that you had
him with point guard to start, and I thought he
hadn't played point guard. And I thought, wow, he's going
to be the leader of the team, and now you're
going to make him a point guard. And I don't
know if he struggled a little bit there as a
point guard, but when did you know that he could
actually be a point forward or whatever you want to
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call it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, I think when you look at you know, sometimes
we get caught up in the titles point guard, point forward,
it becomes basketball. Can you bring the ball up? Can
you make place decision making? And I thought for him,
you could see that he understood the game at a
very high level at the age of eighteen. But understand, guys,
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we're going to target him and pick him up full court.
And so we wanted to kind of look at speeding
up the process. If there's a big game coming in
the future, playoffs are playing, well, we have another ball
handler if they took ball out of Kai's hand, and
so we were trying to think a little bit of
a head and it worked out. And it's all right
(24:07):
to be critical of someone's decision, but I think it
helped the process for next season in years to come
that we can rely on him getting us in an offense.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You can have Cooper Flagger victor wimbin Yama.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Can I have both?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You had to tank earlier, you know, to get wemby
a couple of years. Yeah, who does he remind you of?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
He? You know, Kareem a little bit a young a
young Kareem at U c l A being so dominant,
doesn't have the skyhook, but just athleticism, understands the game. Again,
when you talk about these young players, their IQ of
understanding how to play the game, and he's one that's
(25:02):
playing the game at a very high level. Shoots the
three puts the ball on the floor, doesn't have to
jump the dunk. Uh, it doesn't have to jump the
block shots. And so just understanding he again, he's special,
and I think the league with these young stars are
in great hands.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Has okay see morphed into being a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
This season, this this run, this playoff run, We'll be
able to answer that question. If they are the last
team standing, I would say, yes.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
How good are they? Like if we always love to go, Oh,
they as good as the Bulls here, or the Celtics
here or the Lakers here? Is okay See in that conversation,
if they win another I.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Think I think if they win another title, they're in
that San Antonio Spurs type dynasty.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Again simple not flash blaze. They they played both sides
of the ball, defensively and offensively, and then they have
a star and the stars about the team, and so
I would look at them more in that San Antonio dynasty.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Talking to Jason Kidd, the Hall of Famer MAVs head coach,
you were with the Lakers two years as an assistant coach, Yes, sir, okay,
what's your favorite memory of Kobe?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Favorite memory of Kobe? I think playing with him on
Team USA. That was, you know, to be able to
be with him for you know, two months, you know,
and playing the game. Uh, being able to see him
compete in practice and the way he just went about
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his business was special. The other memory I have is
not so so good because I had blonde and I
think he he made a jump shot at the free
throw line over me. I thought I contested it, but
I was coming down and he was still up there.
So uh, just just the competition. He loved going against
(27:12):
the best. Uh, he wasn't afraid and he was the
ultimate winner.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But you were there, I mean, you played against everybody
did was was Kobe talking trash?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Kobe. Uh, if you if you got on his nerves
or you were going to talk to him, he was
going to talk back a lot of times. For me,
it wasn't to talk to the to the stars. I
wasn't going to try to get them motivated. I wanted
them to kind of like just go through their their
routine and get their average and go home. But if
you were going to talk trash, he wasn't going to
back down, and then he would let you have it.
(27:48):
So I tried to go to opposite away just say hi,
and you know, see you next time.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You got in the league at peak Jordan what four.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yes, sir, he was. He's special, you know, being able
to play against MJ again, uh, the best to ever
do it. The one thing I always tell people about
MJ is when you bought a ticket that you were
going to leave there very impressed and not disappointed. And
so you know, if you were at the Garden or
(28:22):
you know in Boston, if you were at Golden State,
you know, he always performed at a very high level.
And so I don't know if people really understood, you know,
the performance that he did on a nightly basis, when
you paid, you know, you were entertained. He always did
something special, and so I always thought he was the
(28:42):
best at his job.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We had Jamal Crawford on yesterday. We're talking about handles.
Who had the best handle, and he talked about Kyrie,
talked about We talked about a variety of players with
great handles, you Tim Hardaway. He talked about guys who
had a hand in the box, like Hardaway was in
the box where other guys have Iverson had a handle
(29:06):
that was outside the box. Who if you're giving me
the mount Rushmore. Of best ball handlers, who would you
put up there?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Isaiah Thomas Detroit, Isaiah Kyrie. I'm gonna give you one
that a lot of people don't talk about is Rodis Strickland.
Who Stricky was, Uh, you know, his handle and his
finishing was incredible. I'm gonna go with Steve Nash. Nash
(29:40):
Nash was in the box. He only dribbled it twice,
but because he was always through passing it. But I
thought his handles were tight. Two and then Jamal Crawford,
even though he could get outside the box, he can
he can embarrass you inside the box too. So I
think that's that's Mount Rushmore for me. But those the
(30:04):
Isaiah and Kai are the best that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What were the battles like, when you're with Phoenix, you're there,
Kevin Johnson's there, Steve Nash is there, so you got
three Hall of Fame point guards there? What was practice like?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
It was great because me and Nash got the practice
all the time because Kevin was on the sideline reading
the newspaper.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Wait, he didn't practice, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
He practiced. He was a vet, so he would practice
when he wanted to. But me and Nash got most
of the reps.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But imagine you got three. Did you guys know that
Nash could play.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yes, Nash is a gym rat.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
I got.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I knew Nash could play. When I was at COW
in Santa Clair. We would have battles, and so understanding
Nash's competitiveness, his work ethic is like no other. He's
a gym rat. And so for both of us to
come off the bench behind Kevin, we got to learn
the game. But I knew at once Nash got the
(31:08):
opportunity to run his team, he was going to be
elite and he was a two time MVP and Hall
of Famer. But we did have to come off the bench,
and sometimes our minutes were cut because of Kevin.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You got credit for inventing the you're jumping out of
bounds and calling it tight out. But they don't allow
that anymore.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Right, they banned it.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, they banned that. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Okay, how did you come up with that? Uh?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I looked at it as just having an extra possession,
you know, And I don't know if the coach really
liked me, you know, burning the time out. But I felt,
you know, a lot of times that the possession was
important and it was our ball to be able to score.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But you did this at count I think.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I probably did it a lot, probably in high school,
and probably my coaches didn't like that I was burning
timeouts when jumping out of bounce.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I have a court here in my man cave, but
we practice that sometimes where balls going out of bounds
and then we catch it and then we do the
quick twenty second time out there.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I wish they would bring the twenty second time out back.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
There's too many timeouts as there is. Jason, you know,
have you ever had a timeout where you go I
got nothing to say?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, it's real simple, Like what else can I say?
Like we can't stop their play or yeah, you guys
are rolling. I don't want to get in the way,
so let's keep it going.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Uh is Joker in the top ten of all time category?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I think when he's done he could be even high
as five.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Where's Steph?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Steph? Steph is going to be in the top five too. Wow,
when you talk about when he's when he decides to retire,
Stephan Joker have the opportunity to be in.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
The top five all time durant.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Our top ten.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Okay, Lebron two so Mike one, yes, Lebron two, yes,
Kobe Kobe three.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
And then if it in, if you had the end
of it today would be Joker and Steph danh.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Okay, you got to take some people out, like are
we taking Magic and Larry out of the top ten?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah? No, well, yeah, they'll be in the top they
could be in the top fifteen. It's okay, it's all right.
They're still good. They're still really they'll get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Tim Duncan top ten, yes, oh that was a quick answer,
Shack top ten. Yes, okay, you know you're gonna end
up with fourteen guys in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
That's okay. We just seven.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Now it feels like Oscar and Jerry should be together
like Magic and Larry. Yes, they should take up one slot.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I agree with you, DP, I think that they should
take up one slot. When you talk about Magic and
h and Larry because of what they did for the
game for us, I think they should they should be
tied together.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
When's the last time you played pickup?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
That's actually when I was assistant in LA I played
pickup because Rondo need it. They needed an extra body,
so I thought I would jump in there and I
tore my miniscus. It was an all bad idea. It
was a great idea until until that happens.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Great to talk to you again, and.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I appreciate it's always good to see DP.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
What do you got in the office that I would
care about? Like the what's over your left shoulder? The
trophy second shelf?
Speaker 10 (35:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
There is this one?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, that's the rookie Yes, I would say Cooper Flag's
Rookie Year trophy is way better.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's nicer, very nice. Do you know? I think I
told you this. I changed my vote for Rookie of
the Year that year?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And it ended up a tie with you and Grant Hill?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You changed it for for me or Grant?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I think I changed it for Grant.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I think I changed it that morning that votes had
to be in and I go, yeah, I'm back and
forth and back and forth and back and forth. Can
I change it back now? Can I change it back now?
So you would win it?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
No, I'd rather be tied with Grant. I like being
tied to Grand Grand had an incredible NBA career, But
again that year, I thought he'd wanted to be honest
because he had a year and he was putting up
big numbers. And so when I got the call that
we tied, You're the reason why we tied.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I know, you should get it half the year, and
then he gets it half of the year.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Shoot, he probably keep it the whole time down, but
it was an honor. It was honor.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Enjoy the off season. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Hey, I have one thing. Can I just say happy
birthday to one of my assistant coaches, Eric Cues. He
listens and watches your show every day, Not that I don't,
but I just wanted to wish him a happy birthday today.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Does Eric know about our shooting contest that you bowed out?
You know, Jim Jackson didn't believe me when I told
him that story. I said, I swear to God, I
flew to Dallas to shoot three pointers against you, and
you got sick during practice and went home. And Jim
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Jackson said that I was making it up.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
No, it's true. I got scared and I knew you
were a better shooter. But I think we should settle it.
I think we're both a little bit older.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, you're better now, No, because you you learned how
to shoot threes. Yeah, I and I have no mind.
You know I can't get you.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Now, we'll do free throws.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I could do I could get you at free throws.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Oh and the may I'll do it at the man Cave.
We'll do free thos.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Okay, you know who can still shoot?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Oh? Yes, I mean when he's gonna be seventy, he's
gonna be able to still shoot.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It is. It's amazing to watch when we've been shooting
around and he just gets there and it is nothing
to him to make ten in a row.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
It's it's incredible. The shooting. You know, everybody has a
different shot, and his is different, but his is all
net and he's incredible to watch shoot too.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But nobody's close to Steph is the greatest shooter of
all time.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I wouldn't say no one's close. He is number one,
and there is a little space. But like Reggie Ray,
there are some great shooters that have been in this league.
And the young gentleman who came in second Canippo is
another one who can shoot it.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
All right, I'll let you go. Great to talk to
you again, Thanks Bud.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
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Taste the Heartland Difference. We'll pick our Kentucky Derby winner
coming up. We know absolutely nothing about horse racing. Nothing.
Speaker 10 (40:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I used to cover the Preakness in the Belmont. I
think three or four years in a row that I
would go to those races when I was working in
New York at CNN, when I was a reporter, I'd
go to those and of course you're going in there,
and there are certain sports where you know who knows
that sport and who's just coming in. And I was
(40:29):
one of those guys just coming in because I you know, terminology.
You got to make sure you get everything right. You're
just I remember talking to the legendary trainer Woodie Stevens, Oh,
I think that I'm I'm doing well. You know, I'm
kind of holding my own with him, horse racing lexicon language.
(40:53):
We get done, and a PR person for the New
York Racing Association came up and he goes up, hey,
next time, you made a couple of mistakes here, you know,
referring to like the Big A aqueduct. And I was
saying that, like, oh man, you know out there the
Big A. Well, Woody Stevens wasn't out at the Big A,
(41:17):
and like just I was in over my head. And
then I realized, you know what, just talk about what
you know and then let people tell you what you
need to know. Instead of me trying to act like
oh yeah, you know, he comes out of the four hole.
Then I find out that there was a horse who
(41:37):
was blind in one eye. Okay, and his name was Patch.
So they had a horse who ran in the derby.
And this was brought up on the Gambling Podcast yesterday
Sammy P who joined us, Oh, by the way, controversy
on the Gambling Podcast yesterday because bad Larry quit so
(42:01):
shy and irving, it's Dylan Big Day. Ray produces that
Sammy P came in, he's a professional gambler and we
have bad Larry. Well, bad Larry. Well, this is how
it sounded yesterday on DP takes a Gamble, Bad Larry quit.
Why don't you take my place? Rights there? Wait? Did
(42:26):
you just did you just quit? I offered it to
Ray last week. What this is news to me. I'll
take it, Sammy take my spot please, So bad Larry
please take it the rest of the way. Now he's
better than us. Wow you think it was fun?
Speaker 10 (42:44):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Okay, Well, why don't we just keep Larry? I'm sorry
we were a burden to you, but.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
Yeah, if you want us at our football Larry, then
you have to have us at our palantier offseason.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Why don't we just hang up on Larry, why don't
we just say good?
Speaker 5 (43:00):
That would be great.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Okay, that's it. Larry's done. That was it. After three
hundred episodes bad Larry bottles out. Yesterday he did the uh,
I'm you don't fire me? I quit?
Speaker 8 (43:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I did call him later and uh, I said, what's
going on? He goes, I'm just I can't do it.
You know, I can do football, but you know, I
don't want to talk about Taylor Swift's next boyfriend and
bet on that, you know. And I said, okay, because
I'm just busy, you know, traveling, and I'm not there
(43:39):
in studio. I said, okay. I said, all right, you
you're done. We're going to treat you as if you're done,
and then if you want to join us during football
season at any point, you can come in for a
little cameo. And he goes, that'd be great. So he
did quit yesterday, Yes, de yeah, And that was not rehearsed.
That was everyone's first time hearing Larry quit. Yes, because
(43:59):
I I didn't realize. I'm like, oh, come on, I
didn't know that he was planning, you know, this palace
coup the previous week where he told Big Ray the
Big Ray, Big Day Ray the producer. And so we'll see,
we'll see if we can get somebody to come in
and sit in the seat where Larry should have been. Yes, deal,
(44:21):
there's an empty chair waiting for someone. Yeah, yes, Bol.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And that horse you mentioned Patch, Yeah, that was the
twenty eighteen Kentucky Derby, a one eyed horse. He had
an eye, both eyes for a long time, but then
he had an illness and had an eye removed. In
twenty sixteen, he was thirty to one to win the
eighteen race and he finished fourteenth with one eye.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Well, the problem is those who bet him didn't realize
that his good eye was his outside on his right eye.
He was just seeing the grand stand and no other horses.
He thinks he's doing really well. And if he had
been in on the rail, he would have seen all
the horses and that would have helped him kind of navigate.
(45:03):
So Patch can't see any of the other horses. He
thinks he's doing great. Where is everyone? It feels like
he's Usain Bolt, I'm doing this with one eye, yes, yes, Tom,
do we know? I don't know what kind of studies
are shown.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Do horses just run as fast as they can or
do they?
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Are they really aware of the other horses?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Obviously you don't want to step on another horse, but
do they really understand that? I know? How about we
just stay in our lane here? This is a serious question.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Do I understand that this is a competition and a
lot of money's it's taken.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I got to beat these other horses.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
I got to get there.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
First, staying just let's just stay in our lane when
it comes to this horse racing. They're just waiting to
get to the stud fee portion of their career. I
guess yes, but yes they do know. And there are
horses who have had great rivalries affirmed and aliy dr
felt like, you know, they they were competing with each other, a.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Trash talk in the barn and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
What'd you call me? Thank you?
Speaker 7 (45:58):
Todd?
Speaker 10 (45:59):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
So that happened yesterday. That was big news on the
gambling podcast that bad Larry has stepped down. Probably not
the craziest thing that was said yesterday. Draymond Green has
a podcast, The Draymond Green Show, and he talked about
Steve Kerr's role in his career.
Speaker 10 (46:19):
As much as he's done for me in basketball, a
part of me, think he's hindered me in my career
and what I could have become No when KD came
from twenty sixteen, oh, I have not had to play
in our playbook, not a single play that we run
for me in our playbook since twenty sixteen. But if
you're going to take one gripe and not be able
to move past it for all the other things, I
(46:39):
think you're shallow as a person. That says more about
you as a person than it does about Steve or
whoever else than that is that you gotta take the
good with the bad man.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
So Draymond thinks he's a thirty point scorer, that Steve
held him back, that he didn't run plays for him.
All I know is if I got Kevin Durant, Steph Curry,
and Clay Thompson, I'm not running any plays for you.
I'm sorry. I could make a case that Draymond hindered
Steve Kerr's career, certainly in one playoff series. I give
(47:13):
if we want to talk about all these things. You know,
Draymon is a wonderful player. He was the right player
at the right time for the right team. If he
played in Atlanta no one would care. I mean, Robert
or told us that Rockets never ran a play for him.
Big Shot Bob, a guy that you would run plays
(47:36):
for because he is a knockdown, cold blooded killer at
the end of the game. And he said they never
ran a play for him. What play are you running for? Draymon?
And once again, if I look at my first three options,
I'm not getting to my fourth option.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Yes, Marvin, there's no way I have maybe the most
unstoppable offensive force ever Kevin Durant. Wait wait, Katie, you
hold on, We're gonna run this pick and role play
for Draymond Green? Absolutely not. No, you set the offense up.
That's what you're great at. Like he was basically the
point guard on that team. Yes, I don't ever like
when people say, oh, Stepherr is a great point guard. No, no,
he's a shooting guard. And Draymond Green was the guy
(48:18):
that ran that offense. And you did what you were
great at. And Steve Kerk put you in a great
position to get paid three hundred million dollars in be
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yes, and he will be a Hall of Famer. He
was a great defender and he was a point forward,
he was their best passer. Well, that's Steve putting you
in your best position to be a point forward, to
run the offense, to get the ball to the scores,
and be a great defender. So I would argue to
(48:49):
the contrary, Steve Kerr understood. Look, Draymond was I think
two time Big Ten Player of the Year at Michigan State.
I think what he did in the NBA to become
a Hall of f is a surprise to most people.
But understanding your role too is key, and Draymond did
understand his role. Now, he may not like it that
(49:09):
he didn't get plays run for him, But I don't
know if I would say to Steve Kerr, you know
you kind of hindered me, you held me back. Yeah, Paulin, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (49:20):
If you go back to when Draymond was talking in
that clip, twenty sixteen was his best season. He averaged
fourteen points a game, then went to ten, seven, eight, seven,
and so on. But that's when he really hit his
stride as a player that frustrated people. No one was
scared of his scoring.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Now because he could be a dangerous three point shooter,
but he wasn't an offensive threat the way I mean,
once again, I've got Durant. Even if I don't have Durant,
I have Stephen Clay, and chances are I'm not getting
to my third option. So but look, I don't know
if Draymond, I want to be fair to the context
(49:59):
of this, I don't know if he sounds mad other
than what could have been. Maybe I could have been
an eighteen point score per game, maybe something like that.
But it feels like he thinks he could have been
like a go to guy. Yeah, Pauling, Yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
Could easily make the case if he's playing for Washington
or Atlanta he's twenty one to ten if he's the
focal point at some point in his career, but he'd
be missing the playoffs every year.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, he's going to the Hall of Fame because he
won championship. Ye, not because you could have averaged twenty
one a game, Yes, Martin.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, at best, he would have been somebody like Paul
Millsap Ooh and weird, he's not on the tip of
our tongues. I'm only saying that because I'm an NBA geek,
But most people don't know who Paul Millsap is, even
though he had a really good career. That's what Draymond
may have ended up.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Being, all right recapping basketball last night. By the way,
Golden State is not in the playoffs. The Nicks embarrassed
the Hawks and they win the series. The Timberwolves close
out the Nuggets. Seventy six ers alive, alive in kicking now.
I don't think the seventy six ers have eliminated the
Celtics in the NBA playoffs. Since nineteen eighty two, the
(51:13):
Celtics have knocked the seventy six ers out of the
playoffs six consecutive meetings. The last time Philly eliminated Boston
was nineteen eighty two.
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app if you haven't done so. The uh Timberwolves knocking
out the Nuggets, and boy, that's the walk of shame
if you're Denver that there was no excuse for that.
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Give credit to Minnesota Minnesota matched the Bravado and then
some of Denver and stood up to Joker and Jamal Murray,
and they did so without their top three guards. But
you imagine if you're the Knicks and there's a chance
the seventy six Ers knocking off the Celtics on Saturday, Wow,
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you'll be big Philadelphia seventy sixer fans. This is where
a team kind of figured it out a little bit.
You didn't know if you're having embiid all right. People
even questioned if he was actually hurt. Yes, Mark, But
here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
If you're the Knicks, do you really want to see
tyrees Maxi for maybe seven games?
Speaker 2 (52:42):
I would rather see him than I would Tatum and
Brown in a really balanced Celtic lineup.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
Jalen Brnston, those guys had a hard time with CJ. Mccollin.
Speaker 6 (52:55):
Yes, Dylan, from like a viewership standpoint, would you rather
see the next play Sixers or the Celtics like that
kind of the storyline.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
I would say the Celtics, right, you know, I mean
that's a rivalry Philly though Philly New York. Eh, Yeah,
I don't know. I like watching Philly because I like
Tyrese Maxing and I do have great appreciation for Joel
Embiid because he's been through an awful lot and he's
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still playing. Like we talk about Anthony Davis being through
a lot, he's not playing. Joel Embiid it. He is
always trying to play and he said, when I'm out there,
I am playing hard. Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 5 (53:36):
You know, if we criticize load management, but if you
look at the seventy six ers this year, that's all
they did. Paul George had less than four forty starts.
Embiid had fewer than forty starts, and Embiid had a
policy no back to backs and look where he is
right now.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, yeah, Deyl.
Speaker 6 (53:53):
I think it was the first time you guys had
him beat on the show and he told the story
about like killing a lion. Did we ever find out
that that was true?
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I thought that was manut Bull too. Maybe they bumped in.
I think manup Ball might have killed a lion, but
I think Embiid was having fun with us. Yeah, yeah,
can you check. I think manut Bull killed a lion.
Yes one, it was Embiid, but he did say it
was not true. Okay, but I thought manut Bowl actually
killed a lion. Embiid was joking about that. I got
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to believe that lion probably didn't look at Manoup bull
and say there's not enough meat on the bone there.
I'm not worried about that guy, Like it's just the skewer.
Speaker 7 (54:36):
Yeah,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Marvin kept telling me that Klay Thompson and Megan the
Stallion that that was going to last. And I told
you it wasn't gonna last, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I had hope for them.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, didn't he rename his boat the SS Stallion?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I do not know they.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I probably follow this a little too much, but Megan
the Stallion is really upset with Klay Thompson. It's not
ending pretty there. Yes, Paul, I.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Hadn't heard about any of this. This is wild. I
knew they were dating.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh, they were in love. But uh, yeah, I think
he named his boat. Now you can paint over that.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
That's an easy fa Yeah, with the next girl friend,
you don't have to give up half the boat.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
If they were like tattoos boat names, You're like, well,
I guess I'm either tattooing over this one. She actually
she was doing a Moulin rouge I think on Broadway
or something, and she tapped out early.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I think she's having a tough time. Yeah, yeah, but
uh she is Aaron some dirty laundry. You like to say,
we somehow make this smooth segue to Jamal Crawford. He
gets along with everybody, and you want to weigh in
on Megan ve Stallion and Klay Thompson.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Hey, the boat still has a cool name either way.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, I mean, but then people would be like, oh,
what's a Stallion? I mean, then you have to answer
it's now you can say, well, they call me the Stallion.
You don't have to bring up Megan the.
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Exactly if Dan Patrick knows about that story, I'm sure
other than as will.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yes, Okay, I have to apologize, Wow, because I dismissed
your ball handling skills because I always looked at you
as a scorer, right, and Marvin would send me videos
of you playing in summer leagues or in NBA games,
(01:57):
and I he jogged my memory and I'm like, oh
my god, you got handles that are probably amongst the
top ten handles in NBA history.
Speaker 8 (02:09):
Thanks so you believe me, So I should thank Marvin
for what happened. Yes, yes, Mark, thank you, Thank you
for Dan knows about you know, Meg and Clay, but
not about the handles.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Of who has a better handle than you.
Speaker 8 (02:27):
I won't say anybody has a better better handle than me,
and I won't say I have a better handle than anybody,
but there was a realm of people always give Isaiah
Thomas his credit, because that's why I watched Growing Up,
Kyrie Pistol, Pete White Chocolate. I think like Baron Davis
has an underrated he handle this, Steve Francis, a lot
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of guys like that, Chris Paul.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Okay, yeah, Kyrie has given credit I think by most
people having the best handles, certainly in traffic, which is
really want to see your handle in traffic? Anybody can
dribble when they're out there by themselves.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
So who's your top five handles? The better question?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, I did see Marribage play in person, and he
was actually underrated. I think people forget just Pete was
so far ahead of his time. Did Magic have a
great handle?
Speaker 8 (03:24):
Not in the traditional sense that we're talking about, like
they can shake it. Magic was more angle speeds. He'll
bump you who get the angle and he'll speed up,
and that's where the showtime Magic was a whole movement.
But it wasn't the handle part that I would remember
most about him.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What about Tim Hardaway?
Speaker 8 (03:40):
He would be up there, the killer Crossover, the UTEP
two step, his crossover was like it was right after Isaiah.
So it's still like really in the box. What I
mean by that is myself iverson, we drive it outside
of our shoulders. So we stayed outside the box harderway
Isaiah Thomas. They stayed in the box. But Kyrie does
a little bit of both, and that's when makes him ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's interesting when you say in the box, because that's
tight quarters and yes, and you're shaking somebody and Timmy's
I mean that crossover was killer. Now he would bump
you a little bit with his off his off arm.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
I saw that the summer at Hoops the gym, playing
with him and Michael Jordan. He was at the heat
at the time. I saw all the bumps and I
was a young guy coming up, so we had some
battles there.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Did Jordan have a good handle?
Speaker 8 (04:29):
His handle was it was to him like he would
surprise you at a crossover. But his footwork was so
good that it made the handle better. So he got
to a spot and then he up fated started doing
his footwork. That's what made his handle special. But it
wasn't like the handle like we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
What was the scouting report on Jordan.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Don't make him mad. You heard.
Speaker 8 (04:54):
Don't make him mad. He all personal, everything's personally you
know that. Damn I was watching the heard your voice
you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, Yeah, that was it. Just don't make him mad.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Don't make him mad. I mean, he was just so possessed.
Speaker 8 (05:09):
And we talked about talent, We talk about people that
can shoot or can do this or that. His competitive
spirit alone would have beat ninety nine percent of the
players who ever played. Just how competitive he was and everything.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You worked with Wemby over the summer on his handle, yep, Okay.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Yeah, I did a couples ago, but he tried last
summer and I couldn't. I was actually coaching. But yeah,
we were connected for the future as well.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Okay, are you going to work out with him this offseason?
Speaker 8 (05:40):
I'm pretty sure what we'll lock in and get if
he has time, I mean, if he wants his championship
and goes on this run and goes home. But yeah,
I'm sure in the future will work together.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
But what are you working on specifically with Wenbignana?
Speaker 8 (05:55):
Well, with him, a lot of it was was the handle,
of course, but it was the footwork as well, and
the footwork translates everywhere. If you at the top of
the key with the handle, if you're in the mid
post area, if you're by the block. Well, people don't
really realize about handle is the ones who are really
special with their handle. Their footwork matches their handle. So
we work on his footwork every single area. And I
(06:17):
have to say he was He probably downloaded things the fastest.
Like if I say something, he's like, got it and
can do it immediately. People I've worked with before it
may take a couple of weeks, a couple of months.
He could do it in five minutes.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
It was. It was I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
But what does he need to add to his offensive game?
Speaker 7 (06:40):
That's a great question.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
At that time, I thought it was the mid post
area because I thought where he was going on the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
I thought, and I'll tell you this because you're I
mean a legend, I'll tell you.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
But when I when he reached out to me, I
reached out to Pop and I asked Pop, like, hey,
where do you see him going? Because I didn't want
him doing my stuff, and they don't want stuff if
it wasn't going to finish all right, I didn't want
him up there rolling on the ground and doing that.
So Pop was like, I want him in that nail area.
I want him that Dirk area because I know where
we're going. You know, that's the area that's going to
(07:12):
get him space and he'll be able to dominate. So
that was a huge focus as well, is putting him
in those areas. And we watched film. We watched Film
and a player. We're going to kind of mimic that
night for the second workout.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, you think about guys who changed the game. You
mentioned that Magic changed the game. I mean you can
go back to probably Bob Coosey change the game. There's
certain guys who changed the game when they came along.
Steph Curry has changed the game absolutely. I don't know
if did Michael change the game because he didn't have
(07:47):
that signature like Steph changed. He had more of an
impact on basketball than anybody, I think, because everybody thinks
they can shoot threes now, nobody thought they could jump
like Mike, be like Mike. But I'm just curious the
number because Wemby feels like he's going to change the game.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
To answer the first part, Mike, to me didn't change
the game. In a way.
Speaker 8 (08:10):
He became above the game. It was almost like he
transcended sport in a way where you wanted to be
like be like Mike. I didn't care what you did, soccer, football, baseball.
He inspired boxing, whatever it was. He inspired Exbody Tyson
when they ran into each other. But he inspired everybody
else in every single thing. So he made you want
to be better at whatever you did. So that was Mike.
(08:31):
So he was a little bit above the game. Wemby
always say this. He was the creative player that created
players would create. So for example, if Lebron and Katie
were playing two K and like now with the seven
three dude, seven four dude who can shoot with handles,
who can run like a gazelle like, it would be Wimby.
He's the one that they would create to play if
(08:53):
they were just playing around the video game.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Did Dirk Novinsky change the game?
Speaker 8 (09:00):
He did from the standpoint of shooting, because at that point,
for somebody that shot that good, it was like Larry Bird.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
Sixty nine six ten. Dirk was.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Dirk's championship run is really one of the great ones
in recent memory. It was so underrated for what he
did and how he did it who he was going
against with that great team and at that time, like
Jason Terry as sixth man was probably his second best score, right,
and then he just kind of put them on their back.
And actually that was the person I show a video
to Wendy when we're watching Dirk in that finals run.
(09:31):
We're watching the areas he was dominating and how he
was doing it. But yeah, Dirk changed the game in
a small way. I don't think he'll get credit like Steph.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Will Yeah, in that mid range. I mean, Kevin Durantz
made a Hall of Fame career out of that mid
range jumper. And it feels like, and I always encouraged
players take it. If they're giving it to you take it,
and Durant has done that well.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
Dan, if I tell you i'm gonna I'm gonna drive
you to your studio and you're like, hey, the freeways
probably the quickest way, but right now it's a car accident,
so it's backed up. I'm gonna get some streets to
go through. I'm going to go through the streets. Right now,
the mid range is available because everybody's trying to take
out threes and layups. It's like the jab in boxing.
I think it keeps the defensive honest. Could you imagine
if Shay couldn't play in the mid range or Michael
(10:15):
Jordan or Lebron or KD And it's funny and the
most important times of the season, in the playoffs, nobody
talks about all that's a bad shot.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
It's like, no move that scoreboard any way.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
You can the best players I've ever seen dominate the
mid range because it's hard to double team there and
you keep people so off balance with that shot.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Talking to Jamal Crawford, I love talking to you and why.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
It takes so long. Yeah, you're giving Rims all of
love right now.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You're right, You're right. It's an open invite. And now
that Marvin has let me know that I missed out
on your handles, God, I can't. I can't believe it.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
There's you Tube. You can still go back.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, no, Marvin sends me videos. I'm being honest, Yes, Marv.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
The move against Kirk Heinrich is easily one of the
five nastiest moves in the history of the NBA.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Mar Marv, I'm gonna tell you this. I played with
Kirk and Chicago when he kind of knew how my
handle pattern would go, and I made that move up
on the fly. I was literally coming down cour saying
what am I gonna do? What am I gonna do?
And I did it? And I was like, what I do?
And that's why you've never seen it again, because I
never mastered it. It was absolutely on accident. So I
appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Why has it got to be against a white guy, Marvin,
that you're gonna single that out?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh man, I'm sorry, man, I mean he got Wes Matthews,
he got re Allen. I mean he was an equal opportunity.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah, I was an ego opportunity ankle taker. I didn't
I didn't care about that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Jason Williams had a that now that was a fun
to handle everything about you know, and his ability to
pass as well. When you factor that in, you can
have a handle. But he was He used his handle
to create opportunities, it felt like, for his teammates, and he.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
Was so fun to watch, Like his entertainment value was
just unbelievable, and he had a totally different skip in
rhythm to his handle.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
I'll tell you a funny story.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
When I was a rookie, Chris Webber obviously was playing
with Sack at the time, and he knew I had
to handle it.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Was in the layup line and Chris got Jason.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Williams's attention, like, look look at Jamaal and I'm like,
almost age. I don't even know combination I did, but
I was trying to show Jay will that I had
to handle as will and getting was approval.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Yeah you can jove off.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
I didn't even play that night, but I went home
and told everybody, Jay Wilson.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I want to add this to NBA terminology. Shots discouraged. Okay,
so Wemby, you know, he discourages a lot of shots.
They should keep a stat of shots discouraged. And I mean,
maybe it's only a stat for Wemby because I love
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watching him play, but the number of shots that he discourages,
not even blocks, but discourages from you even taking the shots.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
Well, he scares you. He's almost like the big kid
as a kid. You have to check his versus to
see if he's really that age. Like he said you up,
he'll turn his back like go ahead and shoot, No,
I'm going to get it. He's like something I've never
seen before. And what I figured out about him is
working with him. He's a big but he's really a
tall guard. Like I thought I was a tall guard
at six foot five, and then you saw guys like
(13:16):
Durant McGrady who was taller than me, that can really
handle the ball, and then he just took it somewhere
we never thought would take it.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
When you see him, Dan, what excites you about him?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I just I looked at his touch, you know that
when he shoots. I wanted to see form. I wanted
to see rotation. I want to see touch. Obviously, the
defensive stuff was there. When he first got to San Antonio,
I said, you got to get him a point guard
to put him in position.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
To score, right right.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
We all did, yeah, and it felt like he was
he'd get down, you know when you see a deer,
you know when it's born, and it's kind of kind
of stumbling a little bit. He didn't know where to
sit up. And I kept thinking, he's already an A
on the defensive end, but he was probably a B
minus on the offensive end. And I said, boy, if
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he ever gets up to where he's going to be
the best player in the sport, he'll be the face
of the sport and that that's happening maybe a little
quicker than people thought, so much quicker.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
And the way he thinks, like the dinners we went
to were even more impressive than the on court work.
Like he read fifty books last year and he didn't
even tell me that stat So that's a book a
week that he read last year. Like he's a brilliant,
brilliant young man. It feels like you're talking to somebody
much older. But just the way he he's almost like
we know the freaky stuff he does with the role
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player type things he does. He's sprinds every single time
he sprints it to a screen. If he doesn't get
the ball, he's not mad, he's spritten back. He'll road
for rotation like he's Everything he does is like he
plays with the energy. He's trying to make the team.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Oh, by the way, it's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But that's what the NBA should show at the rookie seminar,
is that guy wants to play and be great every night.
There's no load management. I mean a blood clot stopped him,
but not much else. You know, if he gets banged
up a little bit, which he will, is a big man.
But I love that he wants to play and he
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wants to be great. He wants to be the MVP.
He wants to be the defensive player of the year.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
To be that young. Just take out the stuff he does,
just to be that age. Most guys are just trying
to establish himself. He's already so far down the road
that he's like, no, I understand my responsibility to the
game itself. We have to grow this game. We have to,
you know, make this game. Look at the USA versus
the World game. He made that single handedly competitive again,
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to be competitive, like he understands the responsibility. I saw
a picture of Joker the last time they played, and
Joker went off and they won, But there was a
picture of Joker kind of looking up at when he's
smiling like, and I said, Joker feels like how we
do when we watch him. This is the first time
he's like really excitedly. Oh my, I have somebody to
keep me again into the game.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
A different thing.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
What happens if the Pistons bowl out.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
I'm gonna be honest, I thought they were lose in
the first round, and I know Powell's the Seattle guy.
I just did because I thought, once you put two
on on Cad as good as he is, who else
is going to consistently be able to be a playmaker
consistently because you need all the playoffs. They want to
take out your first two options. Caid's gone. Who else
can do it consistently to beat a team? And I
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wasn't sure they could do it in a playoffs.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Eight.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Has Peyton Pritchard played in your pro am league?
Speaker 8 (16:35):
He has not, and he's close by hes in Oregon
in the summer. So I tried to get it, but
I think I gotta make it happen. I think if
I just tell him you only get to shoot shots
where the quarters about to end, I think that would.
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Excite him everything.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I said Marvin summer league videos of Peyton Pritchard playing,
and he that's why this shouldn't be a surprise what
he's doing with Boston, Like if you even in college.
He was a great scorer in college. But I would
send those videos to Marvin and Peyton Pritchard he's he
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can be nasty.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
He absolutely can. You guys are you guys are changing notes?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Now?
Speaker 7 (17:16):
You're like, okay, here's proper. Let me show you this. Yes,
I see what you did.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
Great because he hied some of his friends, right, and
he hired them that play basketball, just the garden of the summer,
all different sizes of guys six seven, okay, this guy
is six two, this guy sixty four, and he had
to figure it out. So it slows the game down
for it. That was a brilliant way to train as well.
So it makes sense why he's tough to guard.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Wait a minute, he hired very it's you know, friends
of varying sizes to guard him.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Yeah, you know, all they do is for summer and
he has to figure it out. Okay, this guy likes
to do this. This guy does this and it's it's
a huge advantage because you're seeing people from different you know, athleticism,
standpoints and everything else.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Great to talk to you.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Always, You're the man.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
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Speaker 2 (19:16):
The Hall of Famer, he's the Mavericks head coach. Jason
Kidd back on the program. Before we get to you, Jason,
let me go around the room. If he didn't go
to Cow game, where would Jason Kidd have gone to college? Todd,
I'll start with you. The Arizona State Sun Devils, Okay,
Dylan UCLA, Marvin Kansas, Paul Kentucky I'm going to say
(19:44):
the Kansas Jayhawks. You're right, DP, Yep, you were going
to Kansas.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I was going to Kansas.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
How did you tell who was it? Who was was
Roy Williams there?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Roy was there. At the eighth grade, I went to
the KU basketball camp, so Larry Brown was the coach,
Danny Manny. They had just won the national championship and
so that's that's when I was introduced to KU, and
that's where I was going to go until I made
(20:22):
the decision to stay home to go to Cal.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And I remember you played a game in Allenfield House.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
We did. We lost the fall got us, but what
a great atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Oh yeah, when you talk just the.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Fans, they definitely have home court. But that's you know,
my dad was from there. So at the age of
twelve thirteen, I went to basketball camp and I was
playing with the eighth graders and then during camp they
asked me, but I go and play with the high
school kids, and I was all excited. I was going
(21:01):
to be playing in allen Field House and unfortunately they
took me down the street and I was a little
upset that we were leaving the main court, and so
I wish I was staying with the Eighth Prayers, but
that's when I was introduced to playing with the high
school kids.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Okay, would you rather have your career or Cooper Flagg's
career moving forward?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Oh, I'm going to take Cooper Flag's career.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Wait, you're a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Well, he's going to be one two. He's special when
you talk about being drafted at the age of eighteen
and now being nineteen. But just the way he carries himself,
you know, on and off the floor. His parents have
done an incredible job of keeping him humble and hungry,
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and so I think his career is going to be
way better than mine.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
When did you know that? Okay, he's real.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I asked two future Hall of Famers, Curry and Lebron,
because he participated with Team USA, and so I wanted
to know the truth. And so I went to those
two and asked him can Cooper play? And they both
said he's very special. And so talking to Cooper, I
(22:24):
had him over for dinner and I said, hey, when
you were a Team USA, who were the hardest to guard?
And he brought up Curry and Lebron, and so I
was just like, yeah, those two are hard to guard.
But he goes, they just knew exactly what was going
to happen before it happened. And I said, that just
takes time. But those two are the ones that stood out,
and he said those were the hardest to guard. And
I asked those two about Cooper and he and they
(22:47):
said he's very special. And I thought, you know, listening
to those guys, but once he I gave him the ball,
you know, early on, I knew that this young man
was going to do something special.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I think I was critical of you that you had
him with point guard to start, and I thought he
hadn't played point guard. And I thought, wow, he's going
to be the leader of the team, and now you're
going to make him a point guard. And I don't
know if he struggled a little bit there as a
point guard, but when did you know that he could
actually be a point forward or whatever you want to
(23:22):
call it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, I think when you look at you know, sometimes
we get caught up in the titles point guard, point forward,
it becomes basketball. Can you bring the ball up? Can
you make place decision making? And I thought for him,
you could see that he understood the game at a
very high level at the age of eighteen. But understand, guys,
(23:44):
we're going to target him and pick him up full court.
And so we wanted to kind of look at speeding
up the process. If there's a big game coming in
the future, playoffs are playing, well, we have another ball
handler if they took ball out of Kai's hand, and
so we were trying to think a little bit of
a head and it worked out. And it's all right
(24:07):
to be critical of someone's decision, but I think it
helped the process for next season in years to come
that we can rely on him getting us in an offense.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You can have Cooper Flagger victor wimbin Yama.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Can I have both?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You had to tank earlier, you know, to get wemby
a couple of years. Yeah, who does he remind you of?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
He? You know, Kareem a little bit a young a
young Kareem at U c l A being so dominant,
doesn't have the skyhook, but just athleticism, understands the game. Again,
when you talk about these young players, their IQ of
understanding how to play the game, and he's one that's
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playing the game at a very high level. Shoots the
three puts the ball on the floor, doesn't have to
jump the dunk. Uh, it doesn't have to jump the
block shots. And so just understanding he again, he's special,
and I think the league with these young stars are
in great hands.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Has okay see morphed into being a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
This season, this this run, this playoff run, We'll be
able to answer that question. If they are the last
team standing, I would say, yes.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
How good are they? Like if we always love to go, Oh,
they as good as the Bulls here, or the Celtics
here or the Lakers here? Is okay See in that conversation,
if they win another I.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Think I think if they win another title, they're in
that San Antonio Spurs type dynasty.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Again simple not flash blaze. They they played both sides
of the ball, defensively and offensively, and then they have
a star and the stars about the team, and so
I would look at them more in that San Antonio dynasty.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Talking to Jason Kidd, the Hall of Famer MAVs head coach,
you were with the Lakers two years as an assistant coach, Yes, sir, okay,
what's your favorite memory of Kobe?
Speaker 7 (26:27):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Favorite memory of Kobe? I think playing with him on
Team USA. That was, you know, to be able to
be with him for you know, two months, you know,
and playing the game. Uh, being able to see him
compete in practice and the way he just went about
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his business was special. The other memory I have is
not so so good because I had blonde and I
think he he made a jump shot at the free
throw line over me. I thought I contested it, but
I was coming down and he was still up there.
So uh, just just the competition. He loved going against
(27:12):
the best. Uh, he wasn't afraid and he was the
ultimate winner.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But you were there, I mean, you played against everybody
did was was Kobe talking trash?
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Kobe. Uh, if you if you got on his nerves
or you were going to talk to him, he was
going to talk back a lot of times. For me,
it wasn't to talk to the to the stars. I
wasn't going to try to get them motivated. I wanted
them to kind of like just go through their their
routine and get their average and go home. But if
you were going to talk trash, he wasn't going to
back down, and then he would let you have it.
(27:48):
So I tried to go to opposite away just say hi,
and you know, see you next time.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
You got in the league at peak Jordan what four.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yes, sir, he was. He's special, you know, being able
to play against MJ again, uh, the best to ever
do it. The one thing I always tell people about
MJ is when you bought a ticket that you were
going to leave there very impressed and not disappointed. And
so you know, if you were at the Garden or
(28:22):
you know in Boston, if you were at Golden State,
you know, he always performed at a very high level.
And so I don't know if people really understood, you know,
the performance that he did on a nightly basis, when
you paid, you know, you were entertained. He always did
something special, and so I always thought he was the
(28:42):
best at his job.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We had Jamal Crawford on yesterday. We're talking about handles.
Who had the best handle, and he talked about Kyrie,
talked about We talked about a variety of players with
great handles, you Tim Hardaway. He talked about guys who
had a hand in the box, like Hardaway was in
the box where other guys have Iverson had a handle
(29:06):
that was outside the box. Who if you're giving me
the mount Rushmore. Of best ball handlers, who would you
put up there?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Isaiah Thomas Detroit, Isaiah Kyrie. I'm gonna give you one
that a lot of people don't talk about is Rodis Strickland.
Who Stricky was, Uh, you know, his handle and his
finishing was incredible. I'm gonna go with Steve Nash. Nash
(29:40):
Nash was in the box. He only dribbled it twice,
but because he was always through passing it. But I
thought his handles were tight. Two and then Jamal Crawford,
even though he could get outside the box, he can
he can embarrass you inside the box too. So I
think that's that's Mount Rushmore for me. But those the
(30:04):
Isaiah and Kai are the best that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What were the battles like, when you're with Phoenix, you're there,
Kevin Johnson's there, Steve Nash is there, so you got
three Hall of Fame point guards there? What was practice like?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
It was great because me and Nash got the practice
all the time because Kevin was on the sideline reading
the newspaper.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Wait, he didn't practice, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
He practiced. He was a vet, so he would practice
when he wanted to. But me and Nash got most
of the reps.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But imagine you got three. Did you guys know that
Nash could play.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yes, Nash is a gym rat.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
I got.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I knew Nash could play. When I was at COW
in Santa Clair. We would have battles, and so understanding
Nash's competitiveness, his work ethic is like no other. He's
a gym rat. And so for both of us to
come off the bench behind Kevin, we got to learn
the game. But I knew at once Nash got the
(31:08):
opportunity to run his team, he was going to be
elite and he was a two time MVP and Hall
of Famer. But we did have to come off the bench,
and sometimes our minutes were cut because of Kevin.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You got credit for inventing the you're jumping out of
bounds and calling it tight out. But they don't allow
that anymore.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Right, they banned it.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yeah, they banned that. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Okay, how did you come up with that? Uh?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I looked at it as just having an extra possession,
you know, And I don't know if the coach really
liked me, you know, burning the time out. But I felt,
you know, a lot of times that the possession was
important and it was our ball to be able to score.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But you did this at count I think.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I probably did it a lot, probably in high school,
and probably my coaches didn't like that I was burning
timeouts when jumping out of bounce.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I have a court here in my man cave, but
we practice that sometimes where balls going out of bounds
and then we catch it and then we do the
quick twenty second time out there.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I wish they would bring the twenty second time out back.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
There's too many timeouts as there is. Jason, you know,
have you ever had a timeout where you go I
got nothing to say?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, it's real simple, Like what else can I say?
Like we can't stop their play or yeah, you guys
are rolling. I don't want to get in the way,
so let's keep it going.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Uh is Joker in the top ten of all time category?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I think when he's done he could be even high
as five.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Where's Steph?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Steph? Steph is going to be in the top five too. Wow,
when you talk about when he's when he decides to retire,
Stephan Joker have the opportunity to be in.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
The top five all time durant.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Our top ten.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Okay, Lebron two so Mike one, yes, Lebron two, yes,
Kobe Kobe three.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
And then if it in, if you had the end
of it today would be Joker and Steph danh.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Okay, you got to take some people out, like are
we taking Magic and Larry out of the top ten?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah? No, well, yeah, they'll be in the top they
could be in the top fifteen. It's okay, it's all right.
They're still good. They're still really they'll get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Tim Duncan top ten, yes, oh that was a quick answer,
Shack top ten. Yes, okay, you know you're gonna end
up with fourteen guys in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
That's okay. We just seven.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Now it feels like Oscar and Jerry should be together
like Magic and Larry. Yes, they should take up one slot.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I agree with you, DP, I think that they should
take up one slot. When you talk about Magic and
h and Larry because of what they did for the
game for us, I think they should they should be
tied together.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
When's the last time you played pickup?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
That's actually when I was assistant in LA I played
pickup because Rondo need it. They needed an extra body,
so I thought I would jump in there and I
tore my miniscus. It was an all bad idea. It
was a great idea until until that happens.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Great to talk to you again, and.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I appreciate it's always good to see DP.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
What do you got in the office that I would
care about? Like the what's over your left shoulder? The
trophy second shelf?
Speaker 10 (35:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
There is this one?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, that's the rookie Yes, I would say Cooper Flag's
Rookie Year trophy is way better.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's nicer, very nice. Do you know? I think I
told you this. I changed my vote for Rookie of
the Year that year?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And it ended up a tie with you and Grant Hill?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You changed it for for me or Grant?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I think I changed it for Grant.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I think I changed it that morning that votes had
to be in and I go, yeah, I'm back and
forth and back and forth and back and forth. Can
I change it back now? Can I change it back now?
So you would win it?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
No, I'd rather be tied with Grant. I like being
tied to Grand Grand had an incredible NBA career, But
again that year, I thought he'd wanted to be honest
because he had a year and he was putting up
big numbers. And so when I got the call that
we tied, You're the reason why we tied.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
I know, you should get it half the year, and
then he gets it half of the year.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Shoot, he probably keep it the whole time down, but
it was an honor. It was honor.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Enjoy the off season. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Hey, I have one thing. Can I just say happy
birthday to one of my assistant coaches, Eric Cues. He
listens and watches your show every day, Not that I don't,
but I just wanted to wish him a happy birthday today.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Does Eric know about our shooting contest that you bowed out?
You know, Jim Jackson didn't believe me when I told
him that story. I said, I swear to God, I
flew to Dallas to shoot three pointers against you, and
you got sick during practice and went home. And Jim
(37:29):
Jackson said that I was making it up.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
No, it's true. I got scared and I knew you
were a better shooter. But I think we should settle it.
I think we're both a little bit older.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, you're better now, No, because you you learned how
to shoot threes. Yeah, I and I have no mind.
You know I can't get you.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Now, we'll do free throws.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I could do I could get you at free throws.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Oh and the may I'll do it at the man Cave.
We'll do free thos.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Okay, you know who can still shoot?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Oh? Yes, I mean when he's gonna be seventy, he's
gonna be able to still shoot.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It is. It's amazing to watch when we've been shooting
around and he just gets there and it is nothing
to him to make ten in a row.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
It's it's incredible. The shooting. You know, everybody has a
different shot, and his is different, but his is all
net and he's incredible to watch shoot too.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
But nobody's close to Steph is the greatest shooter of
all time.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I wouldn't say no one's close. He is number one,
and there is a little space. But like Reggie Ray,
there are some great shooters that have been in this league.
And the young gentleman who came in second Canippo is
another one who can shoot it.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
All right, I'll let you go. Great to talk to
you again, Thanks Bud.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
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Taste the Heartland Difference. We'll pick our Kentucky Derby winner
coming up. We know absolutely nothing about horse racing. Nothing.
Speaker 10 (40:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
I used to cover the Preakness in the Belmont. I
think three or four years in a row that I
would go to those races when I was working in
New York at CNN, when I was a reporter, I'd
go to those and of course you're going in there,
and there are certain sports where you know who knows
that sport and who's just coming in. And I was
(40:29):
one of those guys just coming in because I you know, terminology.
You got to make sure you get everything right. You're
just I remember talking to the legendary trainer Woodie Stevens, Oh,
I think that I'm I'm doing well. You know, I'm
kind of holding my own with him, horse racing lexicon language.
(40:53):
We get done, and a PR person for the New
York Racing Association came up and he goes up, hey,
next time, you made a couple of mistakes here, you know,
referring to like the Big A aqueduct. And I was
saying that, like, oh man, you know out there the
Big A. Well, Woody Stevens wasn't out at the Big A,
(41:17):
and like just I was in over my head. And
then I realized, you know what, just talk about what
you know and then let people tell you what you
need to know. Instead of me trying to act like
oh yeah, you know, he comes out of the four hole.
Then I find out that there was a horse who
(41:37):
was blind in one eye. Okay, and his name was Patch.
So they had a horse who ran in the derby.
And this was brought up on the Gambling Podcast yesterday
Sammy P who joined us, Oh, by the way, controversy
on the Gambling Podcast yesterday because bad Larry quit so
(42:01):
shy and irving, it's Dylan Big Day. Ray produces that
Sammy P came in, he's a professional gambler and we
have bad Larry. Well, bad Larry. Well, this is how
it sounded yesterday on DP takes a Gamble, Bad Larry quit.
Why don't you take my place? Rights there? Wait? Did
(42:26):
you just did you just quit? I offered it to
Ray last week. What this is news to me. I'll
take it, Sammy take my spot please, So bad Larry
please take it the rest of the way. Now he's
better than us. Wow you think it was fun?
Speaker 10 (42:44):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Okay, Well, why don't we just keep Larry? I'm sorry
we were a burden to you, but.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
Yeah, if you want us at our football Larry, then
you have to have us at our palantier offseason.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Why don't we just hang up on Larry, why don't
we just say good?
Speaker 5 (43:00):
That would be great.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Okay, that's it. Larry's done. That was it. After three
hundred episodes bad Larry bottles out. Yesterday he did the uh,
I'm you don't fire me? I quit?
Speaker 8 (43:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I did call him later and uh, I said, what's
going on? He goes, I'm just I can't do it.
You know, I can do football, but you know, I
don't want to talk about Taylor Swift's next boyfriend and
bet on that, you know. And I said, okay, because
I'm just busy, you know, traveling, and I'm not there
(43:39):
in studio. I said, okay. I said, all right, you
you're done. We're going to treat you as if you're done,
and then if you want to join us during football
season at any point, you can come in for a
little cameo. And he goes, that'd be great. So he
did quit yesterday, Yes, de yeah, And that was not rehearsed.
That was everyone's first time hearing Larry quit. Yes, because
(43:59):
I I didn't realize. I'm like, oh, come on, I
didn't know that he was planning, you know, this palace
coup the previous week where he told Big Ray the
Big Ray, Big Day Ray the producer. And so we'll see,
we'll see if we can get somebody to come in
and sit in the seat where Larry should have been. Yes, deal,
(44:21):
there's an empty chair waiting for someone. Yeah, yes, Bol.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
And that horse you mentioned Patch, Yeah, that was the
twenty eighteen Kentucky Derby, a one eyed horse. He had
an eye, both eyes for a long time, but then
he had an illness and had an eye removed. In
twenty sixteen, he was thirty to one to win the
eighteen race and he finished fourteenth with one eye.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Well, the problem is those who bet him didn't realize
that his good eye was his outside on his right eye.
He was just seeing the grand stand and no other horses.
He thinks he's doing really well. And if he had
been in on the rail, he would have seen all
the horses and that would have helped him kind of navigate.
(45:03):
So Patch can't see any of the other horses. He
thinks he's doing great. Where is everyone? It feels like
he's Usain Bolt, I'm doing this with one eye, yes, yes, Tom,
do we know? I don't know what kind of studies
are shown.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Do horses just run as fast as they can or
do they?
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Are they really aware of the other horses?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Obviously you don't want to step on another horse, but
do they really understand that? I know? How about we
just stay in our lane here? This is a serious question.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Do I understand that this is a competition and a
lot of money's it's taken.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I got to beat these other horses.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
I got to get there.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
First, staying just let's just stay in our lane when
it comes to this horse racing. They're just waiting to
get to the stud fee portion of their career. I
guess yes, but yes they do know. And there are
horses who have had great rivalries affirmed and aliy dr
felt like, you know, they they were competing with each other, a.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Trash talk in the barn and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
What'd you call me? Thank you?
Speaker 7 (45:58):
Todd?
Speaker 10 (45:59):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
So that happened yesterday. That was big news on the
gambling podcast that bad Larry has stepped down. Probably not
the craziest thing that was said yesterday. Draymond Green has
a podcast, The Draymond Green Show, and he talked about
Steve Kerr's role in his career.
Speaker 10 (46:19):
As much as he's done for me in basketball, a
part of me, think he's hindered me in my career
and what I could have become No when KD came
from twenty sixteen, oh, I have not had to play
in our playbook, not a single play that we run
for me in our playbook since twenty sixteen. But if
you're going to take one gripe and not be able
to move past it for all the other things, I
(46:39):
think you're shallow as a person. That says more about
you as a person than it does about Steve or
whoever else than that is that you gotta take the
good with the bad man.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
So Draymond thinks he's a thirty point scorer, that Steve
held him back, that he didn't run plays for him.
All I know is if I got Kevin Durant, Steph Curry,
and Clay Thompson, I'm not running any plays for you.
I'm sorry. I could make a case that Draymond hindered
Steve Kerr's career, certainly in one playoff series. I give
(47:13):
if we want to talk about all these things. You know,
Draymon is a wonderful player. He was the right player
at the right time for the right team. If he
played in Atlanta no one would care. I mean, Robert
or told us that Rockets never ran a play for him.
Big Shot Bob, a guy that you would run plays
(47:36):
for because he is a knockdown, cold blooded killer at
the end of the game. And he said they never
ran a play for him. What play are you running for? Draymon?
And once again, if I look at my first three options,
I'm not getting to my fourth option.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Yes, Marvin, there's no way I have maybe the most
unstoppable offensive force ever Kevin Durant. Wait wait, Katie, you
hold on, We're gonna run this pick and role play
for Draymond Green? Absolutely not. No, you set the offense up.
That's what you're great at. Like he was basically the
point guard on that team. Yes, I don't ever like
when people say, oh, Stepherr is a great point guard. No, no,
he's a shooting guard. And Draymond Green was the guy
(48:18):
that ran that offense. And you did what you were
great at. And Steve Kerk put you in a great
position to get paid three hundred million dollars in be
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yes, and he will be a Hall of Famer. He
was a great defender and he was a point forward,
he was their best passer. Well, that's Steve putting you
in your best position to be a point forward, to
run the offense, to get the ball to the scores,
and be a great defender. So I would argue to
(48:49):
the contrary, Steve Kerr understood. Look, Draymond was I think
two time Big Ten Player of the Year at Michigan State.
I think what he did in the NBA to become
a Hall of f is a surprise to most people.
But understanding your role too is key, and Draymond did
understand his role. Now, he may not like it that
(49:09):
he didn't get plays run for him, But I don't
know if I would say to Steve Kerr, you know
you kind of hindered me, you held me back. Yeah, Paulin, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (49:20):
If you go back to when Draymond was talking in
that clip, twenty sixteen was his best season. He averaged
fourteen points a game, then went to ten, seven, eight, seven,
and so on. But that's when he really hit his
stride as a player that frustrated people. No one was
scared of his scoring.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Now because he could be a dangerous three point shooter,
but he wasn't an offensive threat the way I mean,
once again, I've got Durant. Even if I don't have Durant,
I have Stephen Clay, and chances are I'm not getting
to my third option. So but look, I don't know
if Draymond, I want to be fair to the context
(49:59):
of this, I don't know if he sounds mad other
than what could have been. Maybe I could have been
an eighteen point score per game, maybe something like that.
But it feels like he thinks he could have been
like a go to guy. Yeah, Pauling, Yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (50:16):
Could easily make the case if he's playing for Washington
or Atlanta he's twenty one to ten if he's the
focal point at some point in his career, but he'd
be missing the playoffs every year.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, he's going to the Hall of Fame because he
won championship. Ye, not because you could have averaged twenty
one a game, Yes, Martin.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, at best, he would have been somebody like Paul
Millsap Ooh and weird, he's not on the tip of
our tongues. I'm only saying that because I'm an NBA geek,
But most people don't know who Paul Millsap is, even
though he had a really good career. That's what Draymond
may have ended up.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Being, all right recapping basketball last night. By the way,
Golden State is not in the playoffs. The Nicks embarrassed
the Hawks and they win the series. The Timberwolves close
out the Nuggets. Seventy six ers alive, alive in kicking now.
I don't think the seventy six ers have eliminated the
Celtics in the NBA playoffs. Since nineteen eighty two, the
(51:13):
Celtics have knocked the seventy six ers out of the
playoffs six consecutive meetings. The last time Philly eliminated Boston
was nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 11 (51:23):
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If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, download the
app if you haven't done so. The uh Timberwolves knocking
out the Nuggets, and boy, that's the walk of shame
if you're Denver that there was no excuse for that.
(51:55):
Give credit to Minnesota Minnesota matched the Bravado and then
some of Denver and stood up to Joker and Jamal Murray,
and they did so without their top three guards. But
you imagine if you're the Knicks and there's a chance
the seventy six Ers knocking off the Celtics on Saturday, Wow,
(52:18):
you'll be big Philadelphia seventy sixer fans. This is where
a team kind of figured it out a little bit.
You didn't know if you're having embiid all right. People
even questioned if he was actually hurt. Yes, Mark, But
here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
If you're the Knicks, do you really want to see
tyrees Maxi for maybe seven games?
Speaker 2 (52:42):
I would rather see him than I would Tatum and
Brown in a really balanced Celtic lineup.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
Jalen Brnston, those guys had a hard time with CJ. Mccollin.
Speaker 6 (52:55):
Yes, Dylan, from like a viewership standpoint, would you rather
see the next play Sixers or the Celtics like that
kind of the storyline.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
I would say the Celtics, right, you know, I mean
that's a rivalry Philly though Philly New York. Eh, Yeah,
I don't know. I like watching Philly because I like
Tyrese Maxing and I do have great appreciation for Joel
Embiid because he's been through an awful lot and he's
(53:26):
still playing. Like we talk about Anthony Davis being through
a lot, he's not playing. Joel Embiid it. He is
always trying to play and he said, when I'm out there,
I am playing hard. Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 5 (53:36):
You know, if we criticize load management, but if you
look at the seventy six ers this year, that's all
they did. Paul George had less than four forty starts.
Embiid had fewer than forty starts, and Embiid had a
policy no back to backs and look where he is
right now.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, yeah, Deyl.
Speaker 6 (53:53):
I think it was the first time you guys had
him beat on the show and he told the story
about like killing a lion. Did we ever find out
that that was true?
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I thought that was manut Bull too. Maybe they bumped in.
I think manup Ball might have killed a lion, but
I think Embiid was having fun with us. Yeah, yeah,
can you check. I think manut Bull killed a lion.
Yes one, it was Embiid, but he did say it
was not true. Okay, but I thought manut Bowl actually
killed a lion. Embiid was joking about that. I got
(54:25):
to believe that lion probably didn't look at Manoup bull
and say there's not enough meat on the bone there.
I'm not worried about that guy, Like it's just the skewer.
Speaker 7 (54:36):
Yeah,
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