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May 16, 2026 49 mins

San Antonio Spurs superstar Victor Wembanyama was ejected for a vicious elbow in their loss to the Timberwolves and Dan thinks Wemby needs somebody to throw those elbows for him. And DP wonders if we have seen the last of tanking in the NBA after the NBA Draft Lottery took place last weekend. DP is celebrating his 70th birthday and the Danettes scramble to present appropriate gifts. The NFL schedule was released and although the opening game is a Super Bowl rematch between the Seahawks and Patriots, all that anybody is interested in is talking about Mike Vrabel and Dianna Russini. And Rich Eisen joins Dan to talk about memories of SportsCenter and the new documentary he’s working on about the show’s history and alumni, helps to celebrate Dan’s birthday, and talks about how he was escorted out of the Mothership.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Victor wembin Yama was tossed last night in the second
quarter of flagrant two. And let me give you the
rule book here. A flagrant one is unnecessary contact. A
flagrant two unnecessary contact and excessive contact. Therefore that can
result in an ejection and possible suspension. I think because

(00:26):
we like Wemby, we want to see Wemby, we don't
think the NBA will suspend him. Now, I go back
to PTSD post traumatic Stern Disorder when David Stern was
the commissioner, because if I brought this up to him
and I said, if Victor wembin Yama got suspended, and
I would have the audacity to question the commissioner as

(00:48):
I once did, you can't suspend him. He already got suspended,
really got kicked out of a game in the second quarter.
And then he would probably use the word plaver and
then he would scoll me with this Commissioner, Adam Silver,
do I think now here's the one thing that's tricky
with this. And look, I don't agree with what Wemby did.

(01:10):
I know that he's getting jostled, he's getting hit, in
the face, he's getting pushed.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
There's a lot of things that go on.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
This is the way that you are going to combat
Victor Wembenyama his skill and his size. They are going
to rough him up. We talked about this when the
series started. They're going to be physical with him. He's
got to be careful, He's got to be he's got
to make sure he's not the one who's going to
be the enforcer. That's where you have a guy come

(01:37):
off the bench and say, all right, why don't you
smack Anthony Edwards here? I mean, this is what happens
in baseball. You kind of police yourself here. You can't
be throwing elbows. You can't. And I disagree with the
coaching staff with the Spurs. Yes, it's physical, it's playoff basketball.
But there's a better way to do this than me

(01:59):
losing Wenby for an entire game that you probably should
have won. But I think that's going to be as
we move forward. How to San Antonio protect Wemby. How
do they let Minnesota know you're not going to get
away with that again? But watching that last night, it's
above and beyond, and it's excessive, and I wouldn't rule

(02:21):
out a suspension. Man, I've been around the NBA for
over fifty years. I wouldn't rule out that they would
suspend him. Now, if it's the regular season, he would
probably be suspended. If this would have been a fourth
quarter flagrant two, then he'd probably be out for this
next game. But watching that last night, you watch it

(02:44):
in slow motion, it doesn't help now, not that the
officials get to look at that, but the commissioner does.
And that's where you look at it and you go,
it's beyond excessive, like he was hoping to connect with somebody.
I get the front stration level, but you're the best
player on the floor. You can't be thrown out of

(03:05):
a game because you want to let everybody know you're
not going to take this. Do we have the coach
of the Spurs, Mitch Johnson.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
It's getting to a point that it's if the people
that are in charge of controlling the game and protecting
the physicality of the game don't do that, then at
some point he's going to have to protect himself. We've
been asking him to do that now for a while.
I'm glad he took matters in his old hands again,
not in terms of hitting nasried By all. I mean
to be very clear about that. I'm glad Nasrie was
okay and I didn't want him to elbow him, but

(03:40):
he's going to have to protect himself if they're not.
And I think it's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's a playoff voice there with the coach of the Spurs.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
You can't do it. You can't.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I know he wants to decide with Webby wants to,
you know, let him know that he has his back
as a coach. You got to make sure that you
keep your cool with this. You don't like it happening.
You just don't want to lose him because Minnesota benefits
greatly because of that. This is why when Wayne Gretzky
was doing you know what Wayne Gretzky did Edmonton, all

(04:13):
the other teams he played for always had an enforcer.
If you're going to bang up Gretzky, Dave Simenko is
Martin McSorley is going to come in and pound your face. Now,
you can't do that in basketball, But I would bring
in Kelly Olennok and say, Kelly, why don't you rough
up Anthony Edwards accidentally? I can't lose Wemby, and I

(04:36):
do want to have his back, and I know it's frustrating.
And there was a play in a previous game where
he got pushed from behind. It's going to happen. Michael
Jordan didn't get up and fight people. When the Pistons
game plan was to knock Mike to the ground, the
best player in the game, they roughed him up, but

(04:59):
Mike didn't get up and say I'm gonna fight Bill Laimbeer.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I probably wanted to.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
But that's where you have players who will do that
for you great players. That's when you know a great player.
Somebody throws at your head. You know you've hit two
home runs, I'm gonna throw inside. I'm gonna hit you.
I don't like it, but this is what happens. And
then that's when your pitcher does that to their star player.

(05:25):
You police each other. And I hated to see Wenby
getting tossed from that game, but I wouldn't rule out
now he'll probably be fined then therefore they'll keep him
from being suspended one more game. And it's a second
quarter violation, and I think if that was in the
fourth quarter now we'd have a real, real discussion here.

(05:47):
But you're the Spurs, you're favored. Don't screw this up.
You're better than Minnesota. Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
The rest looked at that replay a little bit longer
than they normally would have. It feels a regular season game.
That would have been a quick flagrant two. They did
not want to eject him from the game yesterday.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
No, and you don't want to, but you have to
in that situation. It was so excessive. You have to
do it. You want to see stars be stars, but
I can't have you out there after one of their
players saw stars because you hit him in the jaw.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
You see what I did with that? Thank you? He
got hit all stars. Yeahs, thank you, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
I watched it about a dozen times and as Wemby
is getting bounced around and the ball is in play,
one of the players that Timberwolves kind of reaches around
and hits him in the eye. Not too hard, but
he hit him, and he clearly gets in his head
and he loads up and swings, and that's the thing.
He could have easily not done it. When you see it,
it's hard not to call, very hard not to call him.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Give credit to Anthony Edwards sixteen of his thirty six
in the fourth quarter, but Minnesota was down eight points
and they come back to win that game. And then
you have the Knicks with the seventy six ers New
York making eighteen first half three pointers. That ties the

(07:09):
record for most first half three pointers in an NBA game,
regular season or playoffs. Last time it happened the Cavaliers
in twenty sixteen. The Knicks are doing everything right now.
You got rest for og Andnobi if you're going to
need that Runson playing at a high level. If anything,

(07:31):
you don't want to have too much rest here. But
you were too good against Philadelphia, and the story will
be about Philadelphia because we tend to put a period
at the end of their paragraph this season. And now
you look ahead to what do you have here? You
got Joe ellenbi Normally that's where you go, Okay, great,

(07:53):
we got him locked up for three more years at
one hundred and eighty million dollars yourver take. I like
the back court, but I don't know, like it's weird
to say it, but they're two different teams when Embiid
is on the floor and when he's not, and Inmbeid
put up good numbers. It's just I can't count on him.

(08:15):
I can't build around him. Am I gonna trade him?
We always do this where we go, oh you know
that team will just trade him. Well, then you have
to always look at the other side and go, why
would you trade for him? If he's not playing for them,
he's probably not playing for you. So let me get
this straight, expensive and injury prone.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Okay, we'll take him.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
And you know, use correctly. Maybe, you know, maybe you
can get him for pennies on the dollar. Maybe it's
a like a golden state with Steve Kerr coming back
two more years. Maybe you could get where you don't
rely on him and get that contribution. But if you're
Philly moving forward, they had a good year, surprising year,

(09:06):
like Paul George, I can't count on him to be
better next year. I can't count on him bid to
be better. Maxie and Edgecumbe, I.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Can count on them. Kelly Oubra played pretty well.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
Yeah, Paul, you got two more years of Paul George
at one hundred and ten million dollars guaranteed, you.

Speaker 8 (09:25):
Know, Yeah, yes, Marvin, you seem so stressed out about
the seventy six ers, But do you think this was
a successful season, because if I tell the naked eye,
you just look at that team with the naked eye, like, Hey,
I have Paul George, I have Tyrese MAXI, I have
Joel Embiid, a second round suite by the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
It's not a successful season.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I don't think people thought that the Sixers would be
this good at the end of the season, or at
least even get here, because we didn't know about Paul
George and we didn't know about Embiid.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I think they're odds. At the beginning of the year,
We're twelve to one to win it all. So maybe
there were heightened expectations more than I remember.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yes, Martin, it should be. You see how much they're
getting paid.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, I know, but that doesn't there's a lot of
guys who get paid who aren't good. They're not healthy.
It's not about your paycheck. It's Joe Ellenbiid and Paul
George should be good when they're healthy. You know when
that when you start your sentence with, you know, the
Sixers when they're healthy. Okay, stop stop, I don't want
to hear it.

Speaker 9 (10:28):
Yes, Dylan, I don't think anyone even had them beating
the Celtics, including the city of Philadelphia. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Well that was another thing with the tickets.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know, Philly fans are going to get slammed because
they probably sold their tickets yesterday. If I'm a Philly fan,
I sell my tickets like Game four. The reason why
they were selling their tickets is they didn't think they
were going to win this series.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I mean, it's just a business move. Why is it.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Teams can have business moves, but a fan can't have
a business move.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Hey, I got a two hundred dollars ticket. You want
to give me two grand?

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Sure, I'll go to a pub and watch. Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
And if you're a Knicks fan, it's cheaper to take
the train park, go to the game in Philadelphia, get
a hotel room rather than it is just taking a
subway and go into the garden. Those prices are out
of control at Madison Square Garden, So why not take
a quick train ride or a quick ride to Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Here is Josh Hart the next Guard on taking over Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Where you did a little surprised at how how many
fans are.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Non because everybody was begging for that for Philly Toasta
tickets and.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Man, yeah, it's.

Speaker 9 (11:48):
I used to think Philly was a sports town. I
don't know if it is anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Man and Josh Hart went to Villanova, a little shot
there city in Philadelphia, fly Get swept, Phillies fire their manager.
Seventy six ers. He got the Eagles, though you always
got the Eagles. Huh okay, all right, Dylan, let's pull
question first down with the program.

Speaker 9 (12:13):
All right, Dan, we got a couple Wembin Yama should
be suspended for game five or all good? He got
his punishment.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Mm hm.

Speaker 9 (12:25):
Do you have a problem with him being injected yesterday?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
No? No, he needed to be ejected.

Speaker 9 (12:30):
That's gotten dry.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Look, just because they did something doesn't mean you get
to do something. And he did load up the elbow.
He had intent. I gotta throw him. I think now
it's are you going to find him and or suspend him?
I think he paid the punishment being suspended for most
of a playoff game, and uh, I wouldn't suspend him

(12:54):
in another, but they might find him.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yes, Todd, I was less.

Speaker 10 (12:57):
Surprised he got ejected, more surprised than he had to
be explained what that means A flaquid foul too that
he didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
That means he's done for the night. I found out
to be very wild.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
What else do you have, Diyl?

Speaker 9 (13:09):
We could talk a little draft lottery.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, I'm gonna wait wait, yeah, I'm gonna wait and
talk about that because tanking one those who tank won
paid off and probably the last year that you're gonna
be able to truly tank. Utah was blatant, blatant. The

(13:33):
Wizards finally won something felt bad for a j Debanza
because he didn't look like he won the lottery yesterday.
It's like, Hey, you're not gonna go to Utah where
you played your college ball with BYU You're you're gonna
be a wizard huh yep, you're gonna play with it with.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
That's where you start going. Who do they got on
their team?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
You know?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Where am I going to?

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Marshing?

Speaker 9 (14:00):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Who did they get Anthony? He didn't play Trey Young?

Speaker 9 (14:05):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Who else do they have?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Don't did I have the guy who got punched by
Draymond Green? Do they have him?

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Speaker 2 (14:56):
Chef Greg is here from Rectech and I do have
the menu that was just sent to me. Chicken leg lollipops,
party ribs, a meat cake that includes cheese, pizza, wagu brisket,
pulled pork, burnt ends, Hallo, panial poppers, and chicken lollipops.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
What has it better than we do?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
No?

Speaker 3 (15:21):
No, yes, you get the theme here right, Yeah, it's
a birthday cake.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
It's a birthday cake.

Speaker 7 (15:27):
Thank you, Paul, Happy birthday, Buddy, Happy.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Thank you, Todd.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yes, big seven ozer today and that's when you say, boy,
you don't look at thank you, although nobody said that.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Today. When I walked in, Paully goes, this is a big.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
One, huh, I go, yeah, he goes, all right, Happy birthday.
And I was waiting for something a little more like. Man,
you don't act like I don't act like I'm seventy.
I might look like I'm seventy, walk like I'm seventy.

Speaker 7 (16:01):
Yes, I did say I think you're in better shape
now than you were ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, I meant it.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
Yeah, there were some issues you had ten years ago
and now you're flying around.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Actually, fifteen years ago is when this first hit me
and AUTOWI immune doesn't leave, you know, I keep asking
where you please leave?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
And he's always there, always gonna be there. Yes, Tom,
you's so much more fun to be around.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
And you're gonna look at date past sixty three to me.

Speaker 10 (16:28):
And if you did what a lot of people doing
this business with the whole hair dye thing, it'd probably.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Are too late, too late.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I tried.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
You did the announcement the Patriots will be at the Seahawks.
I don't know if anybody is asking for a Super
Bowl rematch. I certainly wasn't, but you always gift the
defending super Bowl champs the home opener starting the season.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
I probably would have looked at a maybe.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
A little better match up there, But you're gonna get
eyes on this game anyway because it's the first game
of the rag in season. Now you throw in the
Mike Vrabel element here. That might be more interesting than
the super Bowl rematch here, because I didn't like the
super Bowl therefore, I'm not that interested in a super
Bowl rematch here. But give Seattle a chance if they

(17:16):
want to raise the banner, they have a big night,
They have the day night to themselves, so Seattle will
open up the festivities against the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yes, Dylan, would.

Speaker 9 (17:26):
You like to guess the line on that game?

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Then?

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Now I did not know this.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Dylan, who is part of the Gambling podcast, says, there
are betting lines on every single game already the entire season.
You can find a betting line.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
DraftKings has every single game for the entire NFL season.
You can go bet it right now.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Okay, but let's say the is it Steelers Broncos on
Black Friday?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Can you get the betting line there for me?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
For that?

Speaker 9 (17:58):
I got it? Right here. Okay, it is Broncos minus
one and a half at the Stillers.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Okay, that's wild because I guess we assume Rogers is
gonna play. I don't know when Patrick Mahomes is gonna play.
Would you give me the betting lines for the Chiefs
first three games, because if it's not Patrick Mahomes and
it's justin Fields, that's probably a four or five point
spread there change, Yes, stil.

Speaker 9 (18:26):
Well, I can actually give you the first five games then,
since I have them right here, Okay, Shockingly, the Chiefs
are favored in every single one of those games. So
they're minus two and a half against the Broncos Week one,
then minus five and a half against the Colts, minus
seven at the Dolphins, minus five and a half at
the Raiders, and then minus two and a half back

(18:46):
home against the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
But is that where you kind of load up on
Denver and maybe hope that Mahomes is not playing.

Speaker 9 (18:52):
Yeah, you're sort of. I mean, it's a you know,
like if trading futures, you're basically waiting for things that
are undetermined right now to pan out and sort of
getting ahead of the game. People will do that and
sell their ticket, you know, like on prop swap or
one of those sites if you just have a good
feeling about it.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
The amount of primetime games the Rams have seven, Packers, Chiefs,
Bill Seahawks, six, Cowboys, five, Eagles, Bears, Pats, Niners five
four primetime games, Vikings, Giants, Steelers, Ravens, Lions, Texans, Commanders,
the Jags, Broncos, Bengals, Falcons, Panthers, Chargers, Bucks get three

(19:32):
primetime games, Colts get two, Saints and Browns get one.
Shut out Jets, Cardinals, Titans, Dolphins, Raiders.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Now I was thinking about with the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
If this was arch Manning with the Raiders, the Raiders
would be getting some primetime games because we would be
under the impression that Arch Manning would be starting for
the Raiders week one. Fernando Mendoza probably not starting, and
by the time he does start, the Raiders might not
be in a position to be a formidable opponent to

(20:05):
somebody later in the season. Let's say Mendoza starts in
week thirteen and you've got five wins. Now, you still
want to see Mendoza. But the reason why they don't
have any primetime games is they have Kirk Cousins, they
won't have Mendoza's starting there, But I think that's interesting.
The Dolphins not musty TV cam Ward. I think if

(20:28):
they had gotten Jeremiah Love, I think that they would
have gotten a primetime game. The Cardinals have Jeremiah Love
and they don't have a primetime game. And then you
have the Jets. All right, you can sleep on the
Jets this year, but next year the Jets are going
to get at least three primetime games. Next year, well,

(20:50):
I'm just if they continue this path. They had a
good draft. Now, if they do things right now, they
might get a little better than they want to. So
they can't get quarterback that they really won, and then
you'd have Geno, you know for your a year two
with the Jets.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yes, Paul, that's a.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
National judgment of your franchise. Though the amount of National
TV games you have the Jets, that's a monster market.
They have to find a way to be so bad
they can't get a National.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
TV Easiest schedules Cleveland Browns, easiest schedule, they'll need it.
The Saints. Then it's the Bengals, Falcons, Colts, Lions, Texans, Titans, Ravens, Eagles,
that's the top ten. How about toughest schedule. Toughest schedule

(21:37):
Paul The's Chicago Bears. Then it's the Dolphins, Arizona, Green Bay,
Kansas City, the Patriots, Raiders, and the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 11 (21:51):
Stand of the Day Stannaday stanaa day stand today. This
is the Stanle of the Day.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
If you're the Dolphins, you're okay with a tough schedule.
I don't think you want to win too many games
this upcoming season. And the Cardinals as well kind of
want to be on the clock. Get your quarterback in
both cases here unless you believe in you know, Malik Willis,
you know, as a long term solution. Seahawks Patriots marks
the third time in NFL history there will be a

(22:24):
rematch from the previous season super Bowl in Week one,
Broncos Panthers Week one, twenty sixteen, and then the Chiefs
and the Vikings met Week one in nineteen seventy after
meeting in the super Bowl the previous season. I don't

(22:50):
think the Patriots make the playoffs. I don't think the
Bears make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
I look at the paid now. Okay, there's drama, but
I don't know how it reflects on the football team.
You have the mic brabel and I don't know if
anything else. I was going to say, another shoe drop.
It feels like it's a closet full of shoes that
have dropped already. The Patriots opened the season against Seattle,
then they got the Steelers, Jags, and Bills. So that's

(23:22):
the most difficult strength of schedule the first four games
since nineteen eighty six, when the Eagles had a winning
percentage with their opponents of over seven hundred.

Speaker 10 (23:37):
Statu Today, Statu Today, stat of the Day, Shot Today,
Status Day, stat Today, Status Day.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Start to day.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Alrighty, we got basketball coming up tonight, a pair of
game sixes. Looking at the point spreads, the Spurs are
now favored by five and a half. It was four
and a half yesterday, and the pissed are getting three
and a half against the Cavaliers.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Fritzy's here, Dylan's here, Marv Paul yours truly back room
guys as well, and you at home or on the road.
Poll question for the first hour of the program.

Speaker 9 (24:13):
Yeah, Dan Wilsonce, we're just talking about the season opener.
Who would you rather see the Seahawks play in the
season opener? Chiefs, Cowboys, Rams or forty nine Ers. These
are all teams they'll be playing at home this season.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well, they can't do the Rams or forty nine Ers
because they're in Australia.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, you don't.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I don't want to waste a Cowboys game opening Chiefs.
We don't know if Mahomes is gonna play. I it
feels like you can put I mean, you want to
have a great game, but I don't know if it
matters that much because you're gonna watch it's the first.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Game, standalone game. I mean, I don't want.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
To see Seattle against Arizona, but I would. I mean,
i'd be fun. Jeremiah Love would interesting to see against
that Seattle defense. But I don't want to waste games.
I think there's a curiosity factor. And once again it
goes back to Mike Brabel. Your girlfriends or your wives
may not have had any idea who Mike Brabel was

(25:15):
or cared about Mike Brabel, and he was in the
Super Bowl last year. Now you might get curiosity seekers
here maybe and hopefully it's a good game.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yes, Bully, how is that story covered.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well, that's what I want to know leading up to
that game, and that's on NBC. How does NBC Football
Night in America cover that? As far as doing a feature,
do you get to sit down with Rabel, you're going
to talk to the coach, What do you ask the coach?

(25:52):
I think, do you do something chronologically about Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Everything that's happened?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Hopefully nothing else happens if you're a Patriots fan or
Mike Brabel?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
But how much?

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I think you got to be fair and say how
much of a sports story is this? Because that's that
was my approach when we, you know, the story first happened.
I really have to look at it as a sports story.
I don't know Mike Brabel, I know Diana Rassini, and
I was trying to be fair to TMZ. Everybody else
can cover that part of it that I had to

(26:29):
look at the sports element here and my viewpoint. My
angle was is Rabel what kind of information was he sharing?
Because he's you know, clearly sharing information with a reporter.
How did that affect How did that impact players?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Teams?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
You know?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
That was the interesting part.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Now we haven't really heard much people are you know,
combing the internet, going back and looking at interviews, comments,
situations when he was in Tennessee, and you know, are
you helping steer somebody your team away from your team
getting a job going through the media.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yes, Dylan.

Speaker 9 (27:09):
Now we've obviously got like a few months before the
season starts, which in internet years, is like an eternity.
Do you think if nothing else comes out about this
it sort of dies down by the season or is
it kind of going to go dormant and then ramp
up again when the season starts.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I think when when you sit down and you talk
to him, when you talk to Rabel, I mean you
have to ask, and it's the distraction question, how how
much of a distraction? I don't want to say has
this been a distraction because it's easy for Mike. We're

(27:43):
able to go it hasn't how much of it? Just
now he can still say it hasn't been. But I
want to help him along a little bit and say
how much of a distraction has this been? And you
might get one question and they might put a caper
on this. With the Patriots, they are pretty tough when

(28:03):
it comes to when you go in there and ask questions.

Speaker 9 (28:06):
Yes, Dylan, there might be some interesting road games this season.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Oh absolutely. I mean, look at what the Chargers did. Yeah,
Chargers play the Patriots. They came out with their schedule release,
they went there.

Speaker 9 (28:22):
Albert Breer, i think said he was like, there'll be
definitely at least one team that does something.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yes, and the Chargers play the Patriots, it'd be great
if they open the season against each other with the
schedule release.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
That would have been a lot of fun. Yes, Todd.

Speaker 10 (28:36):
If you ask the distraction question and the Patriots allow it,
then they allow, say a second question or a follow up.
What exactly would be that follow up with When Mike
Rabele says them like, you know what, it's been a
bit of a distraction, I made some poor choice or
whatever he says. But we move on and we're ready
to and we're excited to start the season. Then what
would be an acceptable follow up question today?

Speaker 2 (28:54):
What was the message you sent to your team when
you got them together. Now, once again, when you do
these interviews, they're taped, like my interviews are ninety nine
point nine percent live, and you'll hear a question, you'll
hear an answer, and normally you might take that out
if I'm doing an interview like I did during the

(29:14):
Super Bowl week where I sat down with Tom Brady
before they played the Eagles. Well, you might take out
a question or an answer just because it wasn't good.
And that might be the case that Let's say you
send Jason Garrett to Foxborough to sit down with Mike Vrabel,
like coach to coach, and you asked that question. You

(29:35):
don't get a good answer out of it. Now you
might leave it in because you want people to know
that you at least asked the question, because that happens
a lot of times on this show.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
You're going to ask a question.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
You may not get a good answer, but you want
to at least be on record as trying to get
a good answer. Somebody who's forthcoming going to share something there.
But Football Night in America, I think you got to
broach the topic. Maybe you know from ten thousand feet
broach the topic. But I mean, we've seen Super Bowl

(30:10):
runner up teams that lose, that don't make the playoffs
the following year. That used to be a big trend. Yes, Dylan,
And if.

Speaker 9 (30:16):
I'm like Rabel when I get asked that question, that
is it hasn't been a distraction. I'm just gonna be like, no,
not really.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
How has it been a distraction?

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Is?

Speaker 4 (30:26):
How?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Is what I would say.

Speaker 9 (30:28):
I'd be like, it hasn't. I don't know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Okay, Then I would say, have you you know, how
did you talk to your address this topic with your team.

Speaker 9 (30:40):
I'm going to invoke the fifth Amendment. I'm not answering
any questions.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Yes, I think if Mike Rabel took that path, it
would make the situation worse. If he was defiant and
blew it off, it would actually make it worse for himself.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, I think you got to get it out of
the way. You know, maybe maybe you have somebody who
looks at it as you take. Maybe it's a sympathetic
approach that Okay, man, he's gone through a lot. Hey,
it's unfortunate for a lot of people involved. But you
know what, I hope to be a better man, better husband,

(31:14):
better coach like you can give. You can dress it
up a little bit and come out a little bit better,
a little bit better. Maybe not with the wives in
the audience. Don't don't plead the fifth That never goes well.

Speaker 9 (31:27):
They're not gonna care what his answer is though, anyways,
like it's ever, the court of public opinion has made
its mind.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
The Patriot fans don't care. No, they didn't care from
the jump. Nationally don't care.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yes, John, But he could also say what he's already said.

Speaker 10 (31:40):
You know what, We've had some I've had some uncomfortable
personal conversations. I'll leave that in the locker room between
me and my players in the story.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
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Speaker 2 (31:58):
Rich Eisen's here he is, of course, NFL Game Day
Morning and the Rich Eisen Show on the Mothership. And
now you have this was Sports Center limited podcast series
that you're doing interviews with Sports Center anchors, including me.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
That's right later today.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Later today.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
What exactly is the platform here? What do we just reminiscing?

Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's it? You and I have done this before, Yes
we have, and it's just gonna it's a fun series
that it's mostly in the can. But you're the missing piece.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Wait, how many of these interviews have you done?

Speaker 4 (32:35):
I've done five already, Okay, and you are the you're
the lead gas. You're the one who's We're coming out
of the shoot on June fifth on Disney Plus and
the ESPN app and my YouTube channel and wherever you
get your podcasts, because you could watch it and listen
to it, okay, and you know, I mean the nostalgia

(32:55):
of when we did what we did, you know, or
you were doing before I even arrived, you know, with
Ko and Berman and you know Bob Lee and Robin
and Charlie. I mean, I can go down the whole
lane here.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Who are the other anchors that you've.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
I interviewed Chris Berman at the Super Bowl and Chris
Fowler then stopped off in my l A show studio
after coming back from the Australian Open, so I interviewed
him there, Mike Greenberg in New York, and then just
this past week I interviewed Linda Cohne and Kilby Lord.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Kilby, Oh, Craig Kilbourne, Craig Killer.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Killer, he told some, he told some, He spun some
yards Dan including I'm just but it's just fun like
I provide the memories that I have. Obviously, you know,
you and I go way back, and you know, and
how I first arrived there and and some fun stories
about that and Craig. He and I overlapped by about

(34:05):
three months, and I'll never forget he took me to dinner.
He asked, because we were doing a two am sports center.
He said, Spark, do you want to go to dinner?
And I'm like sure. We hopped in his car and
he took me through the Kenny Rogers roll in roaster
drive through yea in Southington. Beautiful downtown Southington.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Connect That wasn't Plainville, that was South, it was Southington, Okay,
And I'll never forget him. After we ordered our chicken,
he turns to me and he proceeds to tell me
that he's got another job offer and should he take it?
And I'm like, again, I'm twenty six, I just showed
up from Redding, California. This might have been like my

(34:45):
tenth sports center I ever did. I'm like, why is
he even asking me this?

Speaker 4 (34:50):
And he described the Daily Show to me and I'm like,
sounds great. Man like, let's go do it if that's
what make you happy. Honestly, I didn't know him from Adam,
so to count that story with him now, you know,
about thirty years later, not about it is thirty years later.
That's what the show's all about. You know.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Have you reached out to Keith Oberman?

Speaker 4 (35:11):
I have, indeed, and I try to interview him when
I was in New York recently, but schedules just didn't align.
But he'll he's up for doing it. Who else? But
that's this is just for the first season. I'm just
doing six just to get this ball rolling. But I
told you this, and this is you know, no surprise.

(35:33):
I mean, you're the only person I'd want to be
the first guest of this series because of what you've
meant to me and what you did mean to me
back then, what you mean to so many people, and
you know, and I appreciate you doing it.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
The older I get, the better I was though, rich,
is that what it is? I think so, because you
know when you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
When we did Sports Center, yeah, you're just trying to
serve because it's really really competitive. And I told people that.
I tell people that it was cutthroat. Oh yeah, like
it wasn't. Hey, we're we're rooting for you. You had
people who were circling, you know, the Sports Center set
waiting for somebody to keel over so they could sit

(36:16):
in the chair.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Well. And this is something that I plan on talking
with you later. I mean, when when Ko left and
your seat was open, it was on. I mean it
was way on. For everybody wanted that seat next to
you in the worst way, at least I know I did.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
That was a bad time.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
It's a bad time for me because I didn't want
to pick Keith's successor. I wanted management to do it
right because I wanted them to be on the hook
for that person to sit in Keith's chair, which that's
you know, almost irreplaceable, you know, trying to get somebody

(36:54):
to sit in there. And so I turned it around
to management. I said, tell me who you want to
watch at night?

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Right?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
And I mean I had my thoughts, but I was
worried were we going to try to recreate Keith and Dan?
And I didn't want to do that because it wasn't
fair whoever sat there. And then I thought, well, Linda
Cone could sit in and then there won't be any comparison.
And then they came back to me, I'm on a

(37:21):
scouting trip with my son. I have no contact with anybody.
They say they're going to make the decision over the
next two days. And all of a sudden, I go
to a convenience store to get a six pack of
beer because I couldn't survive the scouting trip without having beer,
even though they frowned upon that you could lose a
merit badge or something like that. And I see my phone.

(37:44):
It's got a message and it says we're going to
go with Kenny Main. And I called my boss and
I said, I got your message, okay, And that was it.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well, because we all assumed that you would be giving
two cents, I did not, and and that had to
be you know, I had to be tough for you.
But I mean, again, this is the sort of stuff
that this, this show, this was Sports Center is all about,
like diving into this behind the scenes that sure, no
I can of the airport. Can we just clip and save?

(38:19):
But yeah, like and and I think fans can't get
enough of it, you know, And when you came back
and did your show with with with Keith, you know
a few years ago, when you did your show with Kilbourne,
because we he and I talked about that that was
the last time he did Sports Center. Fans can't get
enough of it, Dan, They really can't. I mean, I

(38:41):
did it twice in the last year, and the reaction
that I got was overwhelming and obviously humbling and awesome.
It's just a different time and and and that's why
I'm just diving straight into the nostalgia.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
He's Rich Eisen joining us here in the man Cave
and the podcast This Was Sports Center taking off the
This Is Sports Center campaign June fifth on Disney Plus
ESPN the Rich Isen Show as well the schedule release.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yes, sir, when did it become?

Speaker 4 (39:14):
When we were starting NFL Network and we're like, what
are we going to do in between games being played?
And you know, and how are we going to follow
through on the branding that we put out there. The
very first NFL Network Super Bowl commercial was in two

(39:36):
thousand and four after we launched an three in the
middle of the Patriots and Panthers Super Bowl Jake Dilone
versus Tom Brady. And it was right was.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
That Janet Jackson it, sir?

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Which mean? And this commercial was amazing because they we
got the rights to Tomorrow from Annie and we had
Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells and Warren Sapp and Terrell
Owens and all the stars of the day singing tomorrow
because the day after the Super Bowl is when NFL

(40:13):
network you should still tune in because everybody's O and O,
all thirty two teams are active, and we're going to
be all over it. That was the branding of the
commercial and I'll never forget it. I found a TV
in the stadium in a in a suite. I snuck
in so I could see the commercial. It was very
big for me and everybody that worked there. And then

(40:34):
it was in the commercial pod right after halftime. Nobody
saw it. Not a soul saw the commercial. As a
matter of fact, it was the most rewound TiVo moment
in the history of that DVR. So nobody saw the commercial.
But we had to come We had to follow through
on it, though. Dan. We had to start coming up
with things that we had to cover, and one of

(40:57):
the first things we came up with was what if
we eventize the schedule being released, Like what if we're
celebrating paperwork, you know what I mean, which is basically
what it is.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
And the same thing with the draft. It just that
is it.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
I mean, like you could do the NFL Draft like
your fantasy league and do it in two hours and
be done with it. But it's a show. And now
it's something massive where it's like the Super Bowl for
every team's social media group and they've been better out
of them and great at it that these are these
are fun videos to watch. And now it's a big thing.

(41:34):
And now you know, the NFL times it with their
ten different partners and all the upfronts and everybody announces
a game here, in a game there, and I think
it just it just gives the NFL a big splash
in the middle of May right now.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Is there such a thing as too much football?

Speaker 4 (41:52):
I don't think so, do you?

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I think we will.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I think we're inching closer to are you going to
watch all the games?

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Well? I think you're You're asking a lot of people
when you know Thanksgiving is one thing. Hey, we're all
sitting around, we don't want to talk to each other.
Let's watch a game. Or you've spoken to each other enough,
Let's watch a game. And there's three of them. Now
it's a Wednesday and a Friday with the three in
the middle. If I'm the NBA, I'm like, you're looking

(42:25):
at that Christmas Day triple header oh, they they just
those and the NFL. You could see the NFL is
deciding to just keep on raising the ante on those
holiday specials.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
I mean the Thanksgiving games used to be, you know,
two games and it didn't matter who the Lions or
the Cowboys were playing. Now, you know, last year they
put the Chiefs in Dallas fifty seven million viewers for
that one, and the NFL is like, all right, let's
let's see if they, you know, this year last year
can hold this year's beer. And they decide to put
the Eagles in Dallas after they and the Lions before

(43:01):
the Chiefs and the Bills. And that's after the Rams
and the Packers kick it off on a Wednesday, and
the Steelers and the Broncos have at it on a Friday.
So that's asking a lot of people to watch all five.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Well, I think we're doing a disservice to Sunday afternoon schedules,
Like I worry about that, where we're kind of kicking
games to the curb, you know, like Sunday at one
and Sunday at four thirty. Sunday night is still going
to be special with NBC.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Okay, So you're lighting a candle for Scott Hansen. Is
that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Right?

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Scott got one game?

Speaker 4 (43:37):
One game a red game. It's a red game. It's
not even a zone anymore. Game. All right, Well, they're
on the twenty three yard line and it's for sure.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
What happens to the NFL network?

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Oh what do you mean now?

Speaker 9 (43:53):
Well?

Speaker 4 (43:53):
The games are now, they're still on NFL Network. There's
seven of them, five International, two other.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Nothing changes though with the marriage.

Speaker 11 (44:02):
No.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
I have been told Sunday Game Day Morning that I'm
hosting is the same, and so is the combine. In
the draft. We're gonna We're still gonna have the combine,
We're gonna have the draft the rest of it. I mean,
we didn't have a schedule release show for the first
time in years. I don't. I don't know if that's
an indication other than just you know, but.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Do you want to be introduced as ESPN's Richison or
the NFL Networks rich Ion?

Speaker 4 (44:27):
How about you know your your good friend here on
your birthday?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I know, but I have to say, I don't know
the NFL Networks Richison, who also works for the Mother Show, the.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Rich Isison Shows. Richisen just so because you could say
my name twice in the same sentence.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Oh okay, product placement there.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Oh yeah, it's all about the branding. But no, it
doesn't matter to me. But it's pretty wild to me.
It's I'll tell this story to you when I went
back and I did Sports Center in Bristol, or did
I tell you this one? I called you the Today whatever,
I'll tell it here because you know, twenty three years ago,
I got handed a cardboard box.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
And I was with you, Yes, sir, I was escorted.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Man. I went in and then I was escorted, and
then Pete mcconvall and Gus Ramsey.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
You know you're was I there when you got escorted?

Speaker 4 (45:16):
I don't think so twenty three years ago, but I
was there and they helped me clear out my apartment
after I got escorted. So I had a cardboard box.
And when I went back this time, I wore my
show gear. I wore a rich Eisen show like pullover.
And I did that on purpose because I'm like, you
know what I gonna do. I'm gonna wear my show

(45:37):
gear because I'm a partner of ESPN. I'm not just
an employee. I'm a partner damn straight, okay, and I'm
a partner. I'm gonna walk through that same door with
my show gear that I walked out of with my
cardboard box. I was escorted out. And not only could
I not find that place when I first got there
because it's a totally different spot, I finally found it

(45:57):
and it's now a brick wall. So I'm like, okay,
I'm so glad I spent all that energy on that,
but it's just totally changed. It's totally changed. But it's
wild that, you know, I have an ESPN ID now
and I am an ESPN employee again working for the

(46:18):
spot that I left to go start. It's you can't
make it up, you know. It's wild.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
When I went back after ten years and I was
on with Van Pelt and I showed up at the
security desk with PAULI yeah, and I didn't want to
go back. I still had bad feelings there and some
things that happened behind the scenes. But Scott said, hey, look,
I'm launching this show. Will you please come on? And
I said, yes, I'll do it for you. I get
there at the security desk and the guy goes, I

(46:47):
d please, I.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Said, I helped build this place.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, and then he goes, I still need an idea,
so he gave me a Hello my name is Dan.
So he gave me a name tag, which I wore
on the show with Van Pelt. I'm like all right,
and then I remember the producer Mike McQuaid goes, hey,
can you take that off? I go no, no, Q,
I'm gonna wear this. I you know, they don't This

(47:15):
guy didn't care, didn't know, didn't matter. Yes, Paully and Rich.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
On the way out, Dan lit up the tires and
did a patch.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Did are you serious?

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
I had my truck, I had a boy. And then
I'm like, all right for you, I burned my burned rubber.

Speaker 9 (47:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
It's so funny because when I did this Sports Center
a few weeks ago, I showed up early and they
had they have this terrific team there for special pieces
and features involving Sports Center, and we shot a you
know of this was Sports Center kind of mock up

(47:52):
old school commercial based on my return, and one of
the segments or parts of the piece was I walk
up and my card doesn't work. And so the guy
we had this guy in New York accident who was
really working behind the security death screen. Can I see
some ID? And I held up a picture of me

(48:14):
and Stuart from like thirty years ago, and the guy goes, really,
that's the sort of thing you're talking about, Like, you know,
I've been here. You know, like you did with Keith
and all of the colleagues you had in the day,
created something incredibly special man, that it still resonates today.
It's part of your fan base as you sit in

(48:35):
that chair, and it's also part of the reason why
you know, Van Pelt says, I want you to please
come and why I'm physically here and appreciate you doing
this on your birthday because you know you deserve it.
I know you don't like people talking about you, but
it's the truth. Man, you're the man.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Well take a break. It's a meet Friday if you
want to join us.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Out already seen what's going down out there, and I
would be offended if you asked me to leave, all right,
to be honest.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
You'll be able to see this episode June fifth on
Disney Plus ESPN The Rich Eisen Show YouTube channel wherever
you get your podcast. Rich Eisen of NFL Network, ESPN, ESPN,
NFL slash Net.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
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