August 4, 2026 • 39 mins
Dan is disappointed the Brewers and Braves didn’t make a better offer to acquire Tarik Skubal and let him go to the Dodgers. He’s happy to see Bijan Robinson resetting the market for running backs in the NFL. And after some technical difficulties, the Danettes step in to cover until DP can get his wires uncrossed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome to the program. It's our one on this Tuesday,
Dan and the Dan Ets Dan Patrick Show morale is hi.
Fritzie's in the back row with a big smile on
his face. Dylan is there with his poker face. Marvin
front row. I don't know what kind of face you have,
A friendly face. I'd say that's a friendly face right there,
and then PAULI, that's a professorial face that he has.
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, Paul, real quick before we move on, did any
of you guys have a great yearbook photo? My senior
year felt good about it.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, although I had a red blazer on it. I
don't know why. My mom took me shopping and it's
a side it's the angle is very dramatic. I don't
know why I allow this to happen, but it's okay.
Hair look good, got this red blazer on, and of
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all my pictures, that's probably the best that I had
yes time.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Because the schools they hire these people, they think they
Fellini or something like that. They don't wish they were in.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Some kind of movie or something, and they're like, this
is the best they can do is taking like middle
school or high school pictures.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
They get a little carried away with it over the
shoulder look or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Did fully need take high school pictures?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I don't know. Hopefully did I think he just went
right to the big time as far as.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I know, like Richard Avedon or somebody like that.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Maybe, Yeah, they take me a little too seriously that
the people were taking the pictures of that.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
You know, it's just a high school yearbook. Relax.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
How about you, Marvin, how was your high school yearbook?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
You know what, I don't mind it.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
I had a had a tan shirt, a tan tie,
and I had football pants on that you cannot see.
My mom got me out of football practice that Marvel.
You got to take this photo because it was the
last day, So Marvin, you have to.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
So it looked good.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
The hair looked good, you know, had had the waves,
had the waves spinning when I had hair.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
What about you, Dylan?
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Uh? My, my I peaked probably with like my fifth
grade yearbook photo, but my senior year one they used
the I didn't like fill out anything, so I think
they just use one. And it's the one where I
have like my fist under my chin like the thinker.
It's uh, it's pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
That would be Rodan, very good, yes, Rodan. Uh, Fritzy
has a picture like that with your your chin resting.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
On your your real like a really concentrating But my
picts are all puffy hair, weird things with suspenders of
a lore shirts, jams shirts.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Back in the day, and that was a big deal.
I felt like carpeting on your shirt. I don't know
what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, you can be part of the DP show calendar.
You send us your photo. DP Calendar twenty twenty seven
at Danpatrick dot com. All right, pull question, play of
the day, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming.
Ya had a lot of trades. The difference between buyers
and sellers just a couple of games. I still go
back to the Brewers. Look, I know small market. Nobody
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in the AL and NL Central want to spend money,
although the Cubs do. But you have this team that
they have the third best odds right now to win
the World Series. Go out and at least put in
an effort for Terrek Skubel because it helps you in
two ways. It keeps him from the Dodgers, and with
(04:12):
him and Misowski, you can win with those two guys
as your starters. Certainly in a five game series, but
a seven game series. So I at what point do
you say, Okay, we're all in. I go back with
the Brewers when they traded for CC Sabathia. They used
him down the stretch. It didn't work out in the playoffs,
but at least they made an effort there. Yes, I
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know you give up prospects, but at what point do
you say this is as good as we kind of
expect to be or want to be, And you're not
going to be able to go out there and keep
that picture from that You have to go through the
Dodgers anyway, So why not go get a guy the
Dodgers really might need now with Otani not being able
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to pitch, So that one surprised me a little bit.
The Braves same thing. You got a lot of talent. Now,
maybe they think this is good enough, but I don't
think it is. Certainly in the National League. In the
American League, this is where I'd be going. If I'm
the Rays. Certainly the Yankees, I'd go all in. The
American league's wide open. You can get to the World Series.
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I mean, there's not a lot of hurdles in your
way in the American League. Now, the Yankees they have
the second best odds. You know, the Red Sox are
now back in the picture. Who would have thought. But
if I'm the Rays, maybe I can't keep trek scuoble.
But what is the goal here? Is the goal to
make the playoffs? And kind of be threatening. Is that
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to get to the World Series? Like what is the
goal here? And that's what's lost on me with the
trade deadline. Go in and roll the dice, and I
know we'll look back and say, oh my gosh, you
know three years ago they gave up that prospect. I
get it, but I would at least want my team
to go, let's go. I don't want you to be crazy.
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I don't want you to be drunken sailors. I want
you to be smart about it. Get the right guy
for your team. And Trek Scuoble is the best pitcher
in baseball, at least on the short list, and the
Brewers Missserowski tired down the stretch last year. Now you
have to give him him almost an innings limit pitch count.
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But you got to be ready to go in the postseason.
And if you got the third best odds and you're
not loading up and not keeping Trek Scuble from the Dodgers,
to me, it's a missed opportunity. The Falcons have signed
b Jeon Robinson to a new deal. He and Jamier
Gibbs were holding out or holding in. This is the
updated running back pay and this just happened about fifteen
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minutes ago. Bjeon Robinson is twenty two point twenty five million.
With incentives, it'll be twenty five million, So that's number one.
Number two on the list is Saquon Barkley at twenty
point six Christian McCaffrey nineteen million, Devon eighth Chan sixteen million.
So Jamir Gibbs probably is looking at something in the
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twenty three million dollar range. With incentives. For Bijon Robinson
it could be up to twenty five million. And you
start to look at the value of these two running backs.
I'm not saying they've separated themselves because sik One Barkley
is still wonderful, but Bijon signs three years seventy five million,
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and if you start to look at what his contributions are,
he might be the best running back in football. If
I look at what he did last year, he had
fourteen hundred and seventy eight rushing yards, he averaged five
point one yards per carry, He had seventy nine catches,
He had twenty three hundred yards from scrimmage and eleven touchdowns.
(07:50):
Gibbs twelve hundred yards rushing, averaged five yards per Carrie
had seventy seven catches for six hundred yards eighteen hundred
and thirty nine yards from scrimmage with eighteen touchdowns. Extremely
valuable and both of them are and really the center
point of their offenses and the running back position starting
(08:11):
to get paid again CMC. When he got paid, then
Saquon came in. Now you got Bijon and then you're
going to have Jamiir Gibbs get paid as well.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
All right, poll.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Question for the first hour of the program, Dylan, what
are you thinking about?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Well, we can start off with one from PAULI. Spending
a lot on your running back is smart or not smart?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
When the Falcons drafted Bijon Robinson, what did they take
him eighth? The Lions they took Jamir Gibbs, what was
he twelve?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Your goal is to get your running back another contract.
I would think if you're going to take somebody up
that high, isn't your goal to be like I want
you to be great and we want to bring you back.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm not big on running backs after five years. I
just think the wear and tear touches, not just running
the ball, pass receiving. But you get guys, if they
know how to protect themselves, that's the key. I get
you out in space. I don't want to run you
off the middle. You're gonna be able to break off
(09:18):
some of these for long touchdowns, so you're a home
run hitter like Jeremiah Love is already getting paid a
lot of money for the Arizona Cardinals. But what we're
asking those running backs to do is basically everything. Be
a wide receiver, be a running back, be a decoy,
be able to block. And if I'm now, I was
(09:38):
in on Saquon Barkley and the Giants taking him number
two overall because I thought he would be the missing
piece and help out Eli Manning at the end of
his career.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Saquan was a great player, or had the potential to
be great. We just didn't see it until he went
to Philadelphia. Jamiir Gibbs, b John Robinson. They're worth that money.
And it probably probably started with Christian McCaffrey because we
thought he was done before he went to San Francisco.
It was like, I don't know how much longer he's
going to be able to play and how much they
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used him. Well, he's still been banged up, but he's
still been great. When it comes to Offensive Player of
the Year, he's usually on the short list there and
kind of created or recreated the impression of what a
running back should be. Now I can go back to
Ricky Waters or Marshall Falk, some of my favorite players,
Roger Craig Ladanian, Tomlinson that they kind of created this
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hybrid right in front of us, and you know, putting
even more pressure on defenses. Now you have to account
for that guy. Yeah, and then if you had to
have a great running back, I don't know if defense
is Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And if you look at Bijon Robinson Dan in his
three years in the NFL, as you said he's had,
I think he's got two hundred and sixty one to
one hundred ninety eight catches in the NFL so far
that make him the third leading receiver from his draft
class at the running back position. He was first team
All Pro last year twenty two and ninety eight yards,
and same thing with Jamir Gibbs three years close to
(11:10):
two thousand all purpose yards per year.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Well, I feel like like the McCaffrey's and the Bejons
of the world, can they command more money because of
their pass catching out of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, you're a full service running back that you never
has to leave the field. A guy like remember a
bunch of years ago, Leonard Fournette was taken high. He
can't catch a hundred balls. He can't catch eighty balls.
Very good running back, but probably not the all purpose
running back of today.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, we'll take a break. We'll be back after this
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Speaker 3 (12:18):
Back on The Dan Patrick Show. Polypaps Dylan Marvin Fritzie
having at audio issues in Maine. We're gonna get that
worked out with Dan real quick, Dylan, let's go to
you and go back to the initial poll. And you
have other poll options for us this morning.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Yeah, well recap the first one, which is spending a
lot on your running back? Is smart or not smart?
We've got some early results, Paul, if you'd like smart
and not smart, let's do it. Do you want to guess?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Uh, sixty percent not smart?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Pretty good? Sixty seven percent not smart.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, if you look at the situation, like Dan said
a couple of minutes ago, it's like the Falcons decided
to go heavy in the running back position with Bijon.
But it's that when you do it when your team
is to play, not ready to play. And Bijon Robinson,
they took him. He's a sure thing. He's twenty four
years old. They're buying his prime. But then if you
look at Jeremiah Love out in Arizona, they're going to
(13:11):
spend fifty million on him, and do they have a
team around him to maximize him.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I think the very short answer is no. But I
don't know. It's crazy to see like a running back
draft for that high, like he's his initial contract is
like an aspirational contract for a lot of running backs
for their second deal.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, it's basically what Bijon's getting and Jamiir Gibbs will
possibly get. But you look at the Cardinals when they
drafted him, a lot of people are like, not the
right team, the great player, not the right team.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, And I think when it comes to players getting
drafted at high you guys think of somebody like Ezekiel
Elliott when he was drafted fourth overall. But the thing was,
the Cowboys had an outstanding offensive line.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Absolutely, they had a great offense line, Zach Martin and
those guys, and he averaged I think fifteen hundred yards
his first three years that go.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I think he led the league in rushing.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
So you get your best years. And even when he
was up for the extension, Dan said it like, do
not extend him because you put so much wear and
tear on his body the first four or five years
of their careers.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I called that with zek Elliott. All right, here's the
other topic here. If you're a Liance fan, if you're
Jamiir Gibbs agent, do you have to get a million
dollars more than BEJN Robinson?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Wasn't It was it Jamar Chase, who wanted one dollar
more than Justin Jefferson. I think I think you can
kind of the proof is in the pudding there where
it's less about necessarily more money. It's just sort of
the statement like all right, I am now the highest
paid blank.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, it does feel like it's more about the agent
than the player, because if you're Jamiir Gibbs, hey we're
getting fifty one and a half million dollars or fifty two.
What's the difference. But the agent has to say face
and get more than the last guy.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
And I think with the Falcons, they're putting money into
their skilled position receivers. Now there's pressure on those guys
to perform because last year, all season long, we called
them probably the most frustrating team because they'd have a
great showing one week and then a no show the
next week. So now you're putting money into these guys,
especially in a winn division like the NBC South. Come
on now, because now you put money into these guys,
(15:07):
let's start winning.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But then you go back a couple of years ago
with the Falcons, why take Pennix when you don't need
Michael Pennox and that draft pick looks like it might
not work out. They could have put another tool in there.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I guess I would throw a question out to the
room if you were, say, your Jamier Gibbs, in this
upcoming contract situation, how important to you you, the player,
would it be to get that extra million dollars on
your contract?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I think it'd be very important.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I think that what happens all too often the agent
is chirping in the player's ear, and like what Pouli
was saying, maybe you're comfortable with getting a certain amount
of money and that's plenty, and I'm good to go.
But if you got an agent get talking you up
like you can't. You got to get at least this
much more than him. You are the best, and then
all of a sudden that starts causing a complications between
the player and the ownership.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, just a recap. Bjon Robinson of the Falcons signs
a new three year, seventy five million dollar contract. It's
really about fifty million with guarantees, but makes him the
highest paid running back of all time. And we are
entering maybe a different era where it's gonna be there's
gonna be star running backs to get star pay and
then the interchangeable guys like I'll just get Isaiah Pacheco
for a million five or guys that can rotate or
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take a guy in the fifth, sixth, and seventh round.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Now, when it comes to running backs, you have to
be a hybrid running bag. Derek Derek Henry is probably
like the last of the Mohegans where it's like he's
just a three yards in a cloud. It does type
of running bag. But the rest of those guys you
have to catch seventy to eighty balls a year in
order to be considered one of those top guys to
get paid that type of money.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Right, And it's not like Derek Henry's not a great receiver,
but when he gets it out there, if they could
just dump him off to him and he's in space,
he's facing a safety or a cornerback and they want
no part of him.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
So for the last three seasons of his entire career,
Jamier Gibbs has called seventy seven, fifty two and fifty
two balls each year. I mean, that's gonna go a
long way in contract negotiations, I would think.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But this does fly in the face of the most
successful NFL teams. If you go back to peak Patriots
Jonah Gray and Corey Dillon and rotate the running backs. Yeah,
Rex burkehead Marvin just had nice reference there. But they
would just rotate running backs season by season and never
commit and pay to any of them.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah. Besides, was that the Corey Dillon years.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, they paid him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
They paid him a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
But the rest of those guys, there was a guy
with a hyphen in his name, I don't even remember,
guys like James White, Guys like that where the interchangeable
parts and obviously the console was Tom Brady and even
the receivers interchangeable parts. So you just kind of need
you don't need like a real guy like that if
you're one of those teams.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And if you look at the Chiefs run the past
six or seven years, they drafted isaiaha Checko seventh round
out of Rutgers. They paid him four million dollars for
four years of work. They basically got him for nothing.
They want a couple couple super Bowls with him. Now
they have Kenneth Walker the third. They're actually investing in
the quarterback or the running back position because there's less
help for the quarterback. Tyreek Hill is not there anymore.
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Travis Kelsey is Travis Kelce like he was five years ago.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Well, and Kenneth Walker's kind of been what I would
call sort of that the equivalent of the second tier
quarterback money, where it's like he's getting like thirteen ish
or something like that, which is sort of your Sam
Darnold type deal in running back for him, which you
can still like, you know, you can easily win with,
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you know, if you don't have the options to get
sort of the cream of the crop guy.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
I thought Isaiah Pacheco was going to be the centerpiece
of Hey, we don't have to pay running backs as
much because we're winning super Bowls with a seventh round
draft pick. Because to me, you can find a good
five to ten, two hundred pounds running back that runs
hard and that can get you a thousand yards every
single season as long as you have a great quarterback
with some great wide receivers. I thought that was going
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to be the shift, But you know, I'll proven wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
And if you look at what the Los Angeles Rams
are doing, they get Kyrien Williams out of Notre Dame
he's having a very good career. He wasn't a top
ten draft pick, he wasn't a first round raft pick,
so they haven't really paid him yet. That's a quandary.
He's been nothing but great, but they're gonna have to
pay him someday or let him go and let him
go to the next highest bidder and just replace him
at the running back position.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
And the funny thing is about the Chiefs is we
talked about him a couple of days ago. Clyde Edwards
Hilaire was a first round draft pick and he didn't
do what we expected him to do. We just thought
the rich would get richer, But instead you get Isaiabhachecki,
who was a seventh round draft pick.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
That comes up big for the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
And so the running back position, to me, you can
find a serviceable running back anywhere in the draft.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Well, that's what most teams do, at least historically, teams
do in the fourth, fifth, sixth rounds. If you look
at the Chicago Bears at the running back position last year,
they had Kyle Manungai, also seventh round, also out of Rutgers,
played really well for a rookie. They don't have to
pay him. He's making like nine hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
I would say, though, like an argument for the the
Bijon's and the Jamir Gibbs of the world is it's
like you can get these guys for twenty three million
or or whatever, or you could pay your Jamar Chases
and your jsns for north of forty million dollars. Where
I feel like we've seen the running back and wide
receiver position kind of start to meet in the middle
a little bit again in terms of perceived value. So
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it's like you are still getting a relative deal for
an offensive weapon maybe witho the longevity.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
And if you look at the market the past ten years,
running backs about every other year or every third year,
you get a special running back that's a top ten
type pick Jeremiah Love last year, Bijon Robinson, Saquon Barkley.
It doesn't happen often. It's a bit of an eclipse.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Gent also, Yeah, which we're still kind of in a
holding pattern, I would say on that, but again that
goes back to situation. Yeah, you need the infrastructure there,
like Hiaran Williams, like you said, Paul to the Rams,
like ideal scenario.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, they don't have to pay them. They got a
great offense around them. If you go back to gent
taken by the Raiders last year, Dan talked about this,
and we talked about this in detail in the show.
The Raiders weren't in position to take a running back
in the top ten. They didn't have a good offensive line.
I think PFF had their offensive line ranked twenty eighth
last year. Genty got roughed up out of Boise State.
He got rouffed up last year, and you kind of
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wasted his rookie year and people think, oh, he's not
working out that well. You put him a position to
not work out that well by not having an offensive
line to start with, Like Marvin you said with Ezekiel Ellen,
he walked in on scholarship.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
That's like when when Jeremiah Love was drafted by the Cardinals,
the first thing you said was, oh, that's I feel
terrible team. Yes, wrong team. If you put him anywhere
else with the serviceable offensive line, you're looking at man
fifteen hundred yards maybe, But now, unfortunately we might look
at him like a bus because he didn't have the
offensive infrastructure for a slow start.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yes, yeah, if you look at the Cardinals last year.
That's maybe one of those cases where what if they
traded down and took advantage of another team wanted to
jump up for Jeremiah Love and surround your team build
your team. That's one of the worst talent rosters in football,
and they went with a running back when they don't
have the talent to surround it. They do have Rogers us,
they do a tight end, They have a decent defense,
but offensive line not there.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Now do you think the Jeremiah Love draft pick was
let's pick the best player, but also let's get somebody
to excite the fan base in Arizona, somebody who can
be on the cover of your media guide going forward.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, I'm sure that's a strategy of a team like that.
That's not very relevant. Kyler Murray's gone. You don't have
a star on the roster. Marvin Harrison junior has star
power from college, but not star play. Trey McBride not
a star. But that's where I hope it wasn't a
marketing draft pick. Marketing draft picks rarely do they work out.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
You gotta get fans a reason to come out, I guess,
and if you know you're gonna be bad for.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
The next couple of years. You might as well get
someone that has some kind of name Breck.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But if the marketing staff has to say, come out
and watch Jeremiah Love run for three point six yards.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Of aage, fortunate, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
All right, Just recap Dan Patrick show working on Dan's audio, Dylan, Marvin,
Pauli and Fritzi here holding down the fort. A little
good news. How about a little good news in college football?
Notre Dame USC rivalry is back. Ish, Yeah, let's go.
It's back in three years from Oh what a lot
of barriers that one don't read the fide in print. Yeah,
(23:06):
starting in twenty thirty, Notre Dame versus USC will be back.
I think the first two years in this reincarnation will
be week one, once in Notre Dame, once out at
the coliseum. Then after that it will be somewhere in
weeks one, two, and three.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Your thoughts how far ahead do they go?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I asked you this off air and when we had
the pre show meeting, But can you explain, like, why
does it take so long that this can't get started
for three four years from now?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Generally in college football, the athletic directors put together their
out of conference schedules at least two years in advance.
You can go on like Texas's website or Georgia's and
see upcoming schedules, and a lot of it is out
of conference games. So that gap with Notre Dame in
USC is about they let it lapse. It's like the
a lease on a car. You let it lapse, you
got to restart it. They have to restart it, but
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it won't start till twenty thirty. But what really is
bothersome is letting it lapse in the first place. That's
really bothersome. It's a perfect rivalry. Notre Dame in their style,
USC and their style clearly don't like each other. It's
a national rivalry.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Is there a reason that they let it lapse, like
or was it purely just like, oh, we forgot to
fill out some paperwork.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Who's there exact who's your fault for that? I don't recall.
I'm trying to remember stories like who's to blame?
Speaker 10 (24:16):
How?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
And is it's on both sides? Why would that happen?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Ever, dyl And I like your idea that they didn't
file the paperwork in time, like an injunction oh, the
deadline was July first. We just didn't get it, Ducks.
You know, there's a lot of finger pointing. When the
dam Patrick Show was out at Notre Dame last year.
We talked to Pete Vaqua Notre Dame and he seemed
to point the fingers at USC for halting the rivalry.
Usc AD said, oh, we wanted to keep it going.
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You don't really know who did. Notre Dame was pretty
stringent that they didn't want to stop it. And it
feels like when USC joined the Big Ten they were
looking for no offense, a couple early season wins, not
upping their schedule because they knew the Big Ten schedules.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Tough, Paul, you took the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
That's the first thing I thought of, Like, man, we
got to play Michigan, Ohio State, now Indiana where you
have Michigan State, all these other teams in that way
us he's on the schedule. Also, Man, we can't do
all of this and play all these really good teams.
So you know what, we might take a break, but
I'm glad they're back when we're out there in Notre Dame.
I mean, just the anticipation around that game was through
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the roof. And it's one of those rivalries where they're
not close in proximity, but it's a tale as old
as time. Like my entire life, it's been Notre Dame
USC as a big time rival.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
It's Hollywood versus the Midwest. You've been to both of
those campuses, Notre Dame and USC. They're polled their opposites,
and the thing is, you're right USC when they answered
the Big Ten said we have a tough conference schedule,
tougher than you know, Peak PAC ten Pac twelve, And
they say, you know what, we want to play Notre
Dame week one or how about a nice San Jose
State home game?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Oh we ever gonna learn who was afraid to play whom?
Because that says I would love for someone to step
forward and go, no, they.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Didn't want to play it US.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
No one's raising their hands for its on this one.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
I do think it's for it's advantageous for both of
them to get it out of the way week one, though,
because if you lose, you know, like if that game
is played later in the season, you know it could
be more of a stand out a little more in
terms of the recency bias, and.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
The beauty for Notre Dame is it's a win win
no matter what, because say, if you lose to Notre
Dame in Week one, man, we played a really tough
USC team to start the season.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
So I mean I like it, though, Dah, I hate
that it's three years.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, it's really silly as three years. When you saw
the headline, like you said, Notre Dame versus USC is
back in three years.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
That fine print got me. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
The other thing about Notre Dame is they are so
positioned to make the playoffs every year, even as is
without playoff expansion. Notre Dame front loads their schedule. They
play the really big teams like last year A and
M in Miami. They could afford losses, not even multiple
losses because the Playoffmitte looks as those as quality out
of conference losses, which is a weird thing. But Notre Dame,
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the last seventy five percent of their schedule is more
like Stanford, Navy, Boston College, generally winnable.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I think they end with QS this season.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
Two.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
That should be a wee.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That's friendly.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
That's friendly. I mean they make the college football playoff.
Notre Dame has overwhelmingly the best odds, so they're minus
eight hundred in Ohio State and Indian or minus three fifties.
So like, basically Vegas is telling you there's almost no
scenario that Notre Dame doesn't at least make the playoff.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
So this year for Notre Dame, the Irish schedule twenty
twenty six, neutral site versus Wisconsin week one, then some
friendly weekends Rice, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Stanford and
a very beatable Wisconsin yesh. So they finish the season
Navy Miami, that's their tough one. If their quarterback CJ.
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Carr is going to win a Heisman, his chance will
be pile up yards the week's leading up to that,
and then take down Miami National TV, NBC and November seven.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Can't they put something in place where like you got
to play tougher teams late in the season. I understand
the schools don't want to have a late loss because
it's recency buyers and that could affect making the playoff
altogether or where they're ranked or whatever where they're seated,
But that's just so weak there, Like well d in
the beginning of the season and then they'll forget about
a bad early loss and then we'll just have the
cupcakes take us the rest of the way.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Well, Fritzi, you bring up the biggest problem with scheduling
in college football. They want to avoid tough games in November.
Besides those conference rivalries. If you're Ole, mess you're playing
Misissippi State, if you're North Carolina South Carolina. But they
want cupcakes to end the season, and a team like
Notre Dame is going to finish the season with kind
of traditional rivalries like Boston College, SMU and Syracuse. But
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if you look at the SEC over the years, you'd
see Georgia versus Wafford on November tenth, eight Oh, you
see Alabama versus Citadel no offense preface.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
As a fan, your conditioned to it. As a season
comes to the an end.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
In any sport, that's when things really heat up, NFL, NBA,
anything goes last games matter so much, and then to
see it's really disappointing to see how college football is
so different and they go the other way.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I just had a quick question about Notre Dame Miami.
I know their arrival is their rivalry as in tense
as Notre Dame USC or was it just during the
Catholics Versus Convicts era where it was that intense of
a rivalry.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's a tough question. I grew up on Notre Dame
and Notre Dame Miami became a kind of a new rivalry,
like you said, in the eighties and nineties and went
away for a while. Usc I feature feels way more
old school. Michigan is very old school. But they have
like a series of them, but they're all national, They're
all distant rivalries like Notre Dame. Indiana would be a
rivalry now because Indiana is good.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Yeah, I'll be curious to see if that one blossoms
into something now, if Indiana can sort of maintain any
sort of stature that it's gained.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well, one kicker in the story about Notre Dame versus
usc is being back, It looks like Notre Dame versus
IU is not going to be happening in the near future.
That one is on the shelf. And could it be
because IU is good now? The Hoosias are good. That's
what people think nationally now.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Is Notre Dame in the same position as Duke Is
where they're a national brand because they're not tied to
a city or state, like there's no city or state
in the does that helped the brand.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
One hundred percent. Notre Dame was almost like omnipresence. They're
like Kaiser SoSE. They're kind of in the Northwest Indiana
area where I have friends who go, Hey, I'm gonna
visit Chicago. Can we run over to see Notre Dame? Like, yeah,
it's two hours away. It's not down the street, it's
not in the South burbs of Chicago. Notre Dame is
kind of an entity more than a place.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
That blew my mind that South Bend was in a
different time zone than Chicago. I was like, wait.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
What, And that's really confusing because it's just over the border,
I mean time zone wise.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
At the risk of sounding ignorant, can the ncaafay have
no power at all to change this whole cupcakes thing
late in the season and there's no one has any
kind of power over these schools that all to say, hey,
you got to play a few more tough teams lately.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
We're gonna break and take some calls a second, But
Fritzy's point is that there is no NCAA scheduling zs are.
You have all these conferences making their own schedules, and
they work with in conjunction with ESPN, Fox Sports and
other places. But they don't need approval. If Wisconsin wants to,
if if Georgia wants to schedule the Citadel, there's no
stopping them. If in the end of the NFL is
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a complete opposite. They have a complete scheduling office that
builds storylines, that builds weeks and make sure there's no
gaps in the schedule. If you wanted one thing that
would up college football bigger than it already is if
you had an NCAA scheduling office that worked with the
teams and the schools and the networks, and you can
make Notre Dame Texas week one. You can have usc
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U c L a earlier in the season and then
maybe next year it's later in the season. You can
ensure Texas always plays A and M. You can make
sure Oklahoma always plays Texas on a certain date. Build
more traditions back. You can't control people in and out
of conferences, but you can control who plays who and
when and avoid Ohio State opening the season versus Ball.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Oh You got to make some calls we have.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
We have to.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
People in college football? Is this ridiculous? It's lasted this long.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I wish we'd call Charlie Baker right Stick around Dan
Patrick show. More to come after the break.
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Speaker 7 (32:09):
We had a new one Pauli too. This is a
bit of a left turn, but something Todd and I
were talking about yesterday. Oh boy, No, don't worry, it's
not bad.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Just because Dan's out for a couple of minutes, Here
comes Dan.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
How often do you replace your phone? Every time a
new one comes out every couple of years, whenever it
fully breaks or you.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Don't know what.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Just to give a little backstory on this, Fritzi was
talking about his phone, which I think is six years
old and says he never replaces it until he absolutely
has to.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
It's in bad shape and I can't even charge it
sometimes because I something with the prongs on the bottom
of the phone. We have to wiggle it a certain
way for it to charge. And sometimes the email comes in.
Sometimes it goes to email. The clock is starting to
like fade away. It's just a mess.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Now, Fritzie. I don't know if you know much about
these phone companies, but they want you to replace your phone,
and they give you incentives.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Does seem that way?
Speaker 5 (32:57):
I've seen the commercials were like, you know, bring in
your old phone and they'll give you all kinds of
presents and stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So you prefer yours to work spodily as opposed to
walking in changing it over and walking.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I'm such a creature of habit.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I think I'm afraid, even with the cloud and everything,
somehow I'm gonna get a new phone and things are
gonna be missing where it's not gonna work the way
the other phone did. The same thing happened to me
with the BlackBerry, and that's why I'm like holding onto
this thing. But this morning, as a matter of fact,
I plugged it in and it's said, I've never seen
this before. I don't know if you've guys ever had this.
I think my phone is like an R X or
an XR. I don't even think they call it by
letter Z.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, yours is probably triple AX.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
It said you're unable to use the phone right now.
Try again in a minute, and I'm like, what is that.
I've never seen a message like that.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Because Todd quickly thank you Tod quickly based off that,
Will you drive to the phone store today and get
a replace?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
It will not be today, It might be a weekend
thing or in the coming weeks. I keep putting it off,
and it's just out of laziness and just a fear
of that the next phone is somehow going to be
uncomfortable to use.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
So the uh we're currently I believe on the iPhone
seventeen that's the latest model Todd as the XR, which
I believe would put that at around eight years old.
At this point, I am a thirteen and mine is
like really on death's door, So I can only imagine
just does yours?
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Even?
Speaker 7 (34:09):
Can you make calls?
Speaker 5 (34:10):
I can make calls, but I noticed that somebody will
go to my Gmail like an email and then but
for it to get to my regular email, it'll take
several minutes.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
It'll say, connecting door.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
And welcome back to the Dan Patchow Dyl and Margaret, Fritzy,
Paul and pack pass holding it out down the fort
coming up in a little bit. Albert Breer of the
Monday Morning Quarterback to talk about all the camps, get
his take on the running back market, and a regular
guest on this show. We have him on every year.
Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic. He is
a nuts and bolts guy, really sharp, really smart. He
(34:37):
does a thing every year, his NFL quarterback tiers. And
I purposely not looked at this and we won't spoil it,
so Dan could do the seg with Mike Sando, But
I just want to give you a little nugget. He
has I think four or five different tiers of quarterback
Tier one, two, three, four and five. Pretty obvious. Paul
Tier three, Fritzy Tier three. Bo Nix is on tiers
(35:00):
three year thoughts insulting.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I've been seeing a number of things, not just this ranking,
but for the past number of months looking into the
upcoming season, and I think bo Nix is being disrespected.
I don't know if it's because it's just, you know,
he doesn't have the name valued that some of the
other top quarterbacks have, that he's young, that they needed
all these wild comebacks. You know, if he's so great,
then why did they have to, you know, pull off
all these last fourth quarter comebacks.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
They should have had a.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Big lead early. Whatever the thinking is. I'm pissed off
about that.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Were easy, easy, I am.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I'm upset.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I don't know how you're there tier three. I also
don't know why the Broncos have to visit the Chiefs
week one after we had.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
The one See that's not an insult, no, but that's.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Ridiculous that you should come to Denver. We were the
one seat.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I will say bo Nix does feel like it's a
little bit of a slight after what he did with
that team, overachieving and doing it in the playoffs and
get in them really in position to make a run
last year.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I don't I don't appreciate it. And Dylan, we we
talked about this too before. You like bo Nicks a
little more than this so called pundens or experts.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
I would put him at at least seventeen Todd.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
That's not helping me at all. Seventeen has been barely
at the bottom of tier two.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
I mean, the bigger crime is having Lamar Jackson in
tier two. But yeah, we're doing Homer picks over here.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, just one more little tidbit on the Mike Sandal
list they got Lamar Jackson's the leader. Would you rather
be the number one in Tier two or the last
one in Tier one?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I'd rather be in Tier one or one. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Let's take a few calls. Let's start with Oh here
comes David and Ohio David, what do you have for
us today?
Speaker 9 (36:23):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Looks up.
Speaker 10 (36:23):
Pauling could hold down the court. I had to comment
about the had to comment about the calendar you guys
are putting out. I think in February the page should
just be a picture of the AT and T Stadium
with the time that says close for business, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
That's a running gag every week calls in with his
Cowboys chat. Let's do one more call Fresh in Milwaukee, Fresh,
what do you have for us?
Speaker 9 (36:47):
What?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Man?
Speaker 9 (36:49):
I gotta say, you guys held it down so dope, man,
that was really dope. I think VP should go do
VP present the Dan Nix. But anyway, but he's thinking
about them running backs and how you guys were talking
to gout and be thinking if you were giving the
keys to the franchise, would your first two picks be
a great quarterback and a great left tackle or would
(37:11):
it be a great running back, a great corner would
your first speak.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Dan next, So you're saying, if you're building a team
from scratch right now in the NFL, what two positions,
not players, would you take? I think you almost have
to take quarterback off the board for this discussion. Otherwise
I can't imagine someone taking another position player over, you know, whatever,
be Jade and Daniels, Caleb Williams, whoever you love who's
top tier, or Patrick Mahomes or or Matt Stafford he's older,
(37:38):
but Joe Burrow. You almost have to take that off,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Without question, the most important position in all of sports,
period is the quarterback. I'd probably go with a left
tackle and edge rusher.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, I think a lot of people would agree. If
you have an all pro left tackle and all pro
edge rusher, you're pretty set at the two most important pains.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Anyone disagree, Not that I'm disagreeing, but I would. If
we're talking in the draft, I would just take the
best player, almost not regardless of position. Obviously, I'd wait,
maybe like your quarterback or whatever, and rusher into your alignement.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You can make the case that the Cowboys did this
year this year with Caleb Downs. Safety is usually not
a top ten position with the draft, but they look
at Caleb Downs as a no question mark guy, a
guy who's starting week one, hopefully starting your ten.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I think I'm taking an rusher and a great wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
I know you want to have the protection of the quarterback,
but if you just stay in shotgrun and then you'll
have a couple extra seconds to get the receiver open
and get it to the receiver.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
But you know what's crazy about the wide receiver. Besides
JSN this past year, you don't need an all world
wide receiver to win Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
It seems like you could find a T. Higgins who's
a B plus or someone like that, who if you
don't have an A you could coddle together a wide
receiver room right, as long as you have a really
good core like you should be all said. Then you
look at a like peak DeVante Adams with Aaron Rodgers.
Those two are such a match that you know you
may pick the wide receiver, like Fritzy said.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
I mean, and even last year, you know Jayson Offensive
Player of the Year Jon Robinson had five hundred more
yards from scrimmage than Jayson did. Receiving yards. I know
that's not apples to apples, but if you're talking about
total production, and.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
How frustrating is it if you're an Atlanta Falcons fan
where you can't win the NFC.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
South, can't not camp? Can't they haven't they simply won't
not camp for this coming season. I coming up a
little bit, Dan, we'll be back with us. We'll talk
to Albert Breer of the Monday Morning Quarterback and Mike
Sando from the Athletic with his quarterback Tierless. Sure to
upset you. Stick around, Dylan, Marvin, Fritzy Pauli holding down
the Fort or Dan Patch show after this
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And welcome to the program. It's our one on this Tuesday,
Dan and the Dan Ets Dan Patrick Show morale is hi.
Fritzie's in the back row with a big smile on
his face. Dylan is there with his poker face. Marvin
front row. I don't know what kind of face you have,
A friendly face. I'd say that's a friendly face right there,
and then PAULI, that's a professorial face that he has.
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, Paul, real quick before we move on, did any
of you guys have a great yearbook photo? My senior
year felt good about it.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, although I had a red blazer on it. I
don't know why. My mom took me shopping and it's
a side it's the angle is very dramatic. I don't
know why I allow this to happen, but it's okay.
Hair look good, got this red blazer on, and of
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all my pictures, that's probably the best that I had
yes time.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Because the schools they hire these people, they think they
Fellini or something like that. They don't wish they were in.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Some kind of movie or something, and they're like, this
is the best they can do is taking like middle
school or high school pictures.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
They get a little carried away with it over the
shoulder look or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Did fully need take high school pictures?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I don't know. Hopefully did I think he just went
right to the big time as far as.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I know, like Richard Avedon or somebody like that.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Maybe, Yeah, they take me a little too seriously that
the people were taking the pictures of that.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
You know, it's just a high school yearbook. Relax.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
How about you, Marvin, how was your high school yearbook?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
You know what, I don't mind it.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
I had a had a tan shirt, a tan tie,
and I had football pants on that you cannot see.
My mom got me out of football practice that Marvel.
You got to take this photo because it was the
last day, So Marvin, you have to.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
So it looked good.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
The hair looked good, you know, had had the waves,
had the waves spinning when I had hair.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
What about you, Dylan?
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Uh? My, my I peaked probably with like my fifth
grade yearbook photo, but my senior year one they used
the I didn't like fill out anything, so I think
they just use one. And it's the one where I
have like my fist under my chin like the thinker.
It's uh, it's pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
That would be Rodan, very good, yes, Rodan. Uh, Fritzy
has a picture like that with your your chin resting.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
On your your real like a really concentrating But my
picts are all puffy hair, weird things with suspenders of
a lore shirts, jams shirts.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Back in the day, and that was a big deal.
I felt like carpeting on your shirt. I don't know
what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
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at Danpatrick dot com. All right, pull question, play of
the day, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming.
Ya had a lot of trades. The difference between buyers
and sellers just a couple of games. I still go
back to the Brewers. Look, I know small market. Nobody
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in the AL and NL Central want to spend money,
although the Cubs do. But you have this team that
they have the third best odds right now to win
the World Series. Go out and at least put in
an effort for Terrek Skubel because it helps you in
two ways. It keeps him from the Dodgers, and with
(04:12):
him and Misowski, you can win with those two guys
as your starters. Certainly in a five game series, but
a seven game series. So I at what point do
you say, Okay, we're all in. I go back with
the Brewers when they traded for CC Sabathia. They used
him down the stretch. It didn't work out in the playoffs,
but at least they made an effort there. Yes, I
(04:34):
know you give up prospects, but at what point do
you say this is as good as we kind of
expect to be or want to be, And you're not
going to be able to go out there and keep
that picture from that You have to go through the
Dodgers anyway, So why not go get a guy the
Dodgers really might need now with Otani not being able
(04:54):
to pitch, So that one surprised me a little bit.
The Braves same thing. You got a lot of talent. Now,
maybe they think this is good enough, but I don't
think it is. Certainly in the National League. In the
American League, this is where I'd be going. If I'm
the Rays. Certainly the Yankees, I'd go all in. The
American league's wide open. You can get to the World Series.
(05:18):
I mean, there's not a lot of hurdles in your
way in the American League. Now, the Yankees they have
the second best odds. You know, the Red Sox are
now back in the picture. Who would have thought. But
if I'm the Rays, maybe I can't keep trek scuoble.
But what is the goal here? Is the goal to
make the playoffs? And kind of be threatening. Is that
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to get to the World Series? Like what is the
goal here? And that's what's lost on me with the
trade deadline. Go in and roll the dice, and I
know we'll look back and say, oh my gosh, you
know three years ago they gave up that prospect. I
get it, but I would at least want my team
to go, let's go. I don't want you to be crazy.
(06:01):
I don't want you to be drunken sailors. I want
you to be smart about it. Get the right guy
for your team. And Trek Scuoble is the best pitcher
in baseball, at least on the short list, and the
Brewers Missserowski tired down the stretch last year. Now you
have to give him him almost an innings limit pitch count.
(06:23):
But you got to be ready to go in the postseason.
And if you got the third best odds and you're
not loading up and not keeping Trek Scuble from the Dodgers,
to me, it's a missed opportunity. The Falcons have signed
b Jeon Robinson to a new deal. He and Jamier
Gibbs were holding out or holding in. This is the
updated running back pay and this just happened about fifteen
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minutes ago. Bjeon Robinson is twenty two point twenty five million.
With incentives, it'll be twenty five million, So that's number one.
Number two on the list is Saquon Barkley at twenty
point six Christian McCaffrey nineteen million, Devon eighth Chan sixteen million.
So Jamir Gibbs probably is looking at something in the
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twenty three million dollar range. With incentives. For Bijon Robinson
it could be up to twenty five million. And you
start to look at the value of these two running backs.
I'm not saying they've separated themselves because sik One Barkley
is still wonderful, but Bijon signs three years seventy five million,
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and if you start to look at what his contributions are,
he might be the best running back in football. If
I look at what he did last year, he had
fourteen hundred and seventy eight rushing yards, he averaged five
point one yards per carry, He had seventy nine catches,
He had twenty three hundred yards from scrimmage and eleven touchdowns.
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Gibbs twelve hundred yards rushing, averaged five yards per Carrie
had seventy seven catches for six hundred yards eighteen hundred
and thirty nine yards from scrimmage with eighteen touchdowns. Extremely
valuable and both of them are and really the center
point of their offenses and the running back position starting
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to get paid again CMC. When he got paid, then
Saquon came in. Now you got Bijon and then you're
going to have Jamiir Gibbs get paid as well.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
All right, poll.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Question for the first hour of the program, Dylan, what
are you thinking about?
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Well, we can start off with one from PAULI. Spending
a lot on your running back is smart or not smart?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
When the Falcons drafted Bijon Robinson, what did they take
him eighth? The Lions they took Jamir Gibbs, what was
he twelve?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Your goal is to get your running back another contract.
I would think if you're going to take somebody up
that high, isn't your goal to be like I want
you to be great and we want to bring you back.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm not big on running backs after five years. I
just think the wear and tear touches, not just running
the ball, pass receiving. But you get guys, if they
know how to protect themselves, that's the key. I get
you out in space. I don't want to run you
off the middle. You're gonna be able to break off
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some of these for long touchdowns, so you're a home
run hitter like Jeremiah Love is already getting paid a
lot of money for the Arizona Cardinals. But what we're
asking those running backs to do is basically everything. Be
a wide receiver, be a running back, be a decoy,
be able to block. And if I'm now, I was
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in on Saquon Barkley and the Giants taking him number
two overall because I thought he would be the missing
piece and help out Eli Manning at the end of
his career.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Saquan was a great player, or had the potential to
be great. We just didn't see it until he went
to Philadelphia. Jamiir Gibbs, b John Robinson. They're worth that money.
And it probably probably started with Christian McCaffrey because we
thought he was done before he went to San Francisco.
It was like, I don't know how much longer he's
going to be able to play and how much they
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used him. Well, he's still been banged up, but he's
still been great. When it comes to Offensive Player of
the Year, he's usually on the short list there and
kind of created or recreated the impression of what a
running back should be. Now I can go back to
Ricky Waters or Marshall Falk, some of my favorite players,
Roger Craig Ladanian, Tomlinson that they kind of created this
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hybrid right in front of us, and you know, putting
even more pressure on defenses. Now you have to account
for that guy. Yeah, and then if you had to
have a great running back, I don't know if defense
is Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
And if you look at Bijon Robinson Dan in his
three years in the NFL, as you said he's had,
I think he's got two hundred and sixty one to
one hundred ninety eight catches in the NFL so far
that make him the third leading receiver from his draft
class at the running back position. He was first team
All Pro last year twenty two and ninety eight yards,
and same thing with Jamir Gibbs three years close to
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two thousand all purpose yards per year.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Well, I feel like like the McCaffrey's and the Bejons
of the world, can they command more money because of
their pass catching out of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, you're a full service running back that you never
has to leave the field. A guy like remember a
bunch of years ago, Leonard Fournette was taken high. He
can't catch a hundred balls. He can't catch eighty balls.
Very good running back, but probably not the all purpose
running back of today.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, we'll take a break. We'll be back after this
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Speaker 3 (12:18):
Back on The Dan Patrick Show. Polypaps Dylan Marvin Fritzie
having at audio issues in Maine. We're gonna get that
worked out with Dan real quick, Dylan, let's go to
you and go back to the initial poll. And you
have other poll options for us this morning.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Yeah, well recap the first one, which is spending a
lot on your running back? Is smart or not smart?
We've got some early results, Paul, if you'd like smart
and not smart, let's do it. Do you want to guess?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Uh, sixty percent not smart?
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Pretty good? Sixty seven percent not smart.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, if you look at the situation, like Dan said
a couple of minutes ago, it's like the Falcons decided
to go heavy in the running back position with Bijon.
But it's that when you do it when your team
is to play, not ready to play. And Bijon Robinson,
they took him. He's a sure thing. He's twenty four
years old. They're buying his prime. But then if you
look at Jeremiah Love out in Arizona, they're going to
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spend fifty million on him, and do they have a
team around him to maximize him.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I think the very short answer is no. But I
don't know. It's crazy to see like a running back
draft for that high, like he's his initial contract is
like an aspirational contract for a lot of running backs
for their second deal.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, it's basically what Bijon's getting and Jamiir Gibbs will
possibly get. But you look at the Cardinals when they
drafted him, a lot of people are like, not the
right team, the great player, not the right team.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, And I think when it comes to players getting
drafted at high you guys think of somebody like Ezekiel
Elliott when he was drafted fourth overall. But the thing was,
the Cowboys had an outstanding offensive line.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Absolutely, they had a great offense line, Zach Martin and
those guys, and he averaged I think fifteen hundred yards
his first three years that go.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I think he led the league in rushing.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
So you get your best years. And even when he
was up for the extension, Dan said it like, do
not extend him because you put so much wear and
tear on his body the first four or five years
of their careers.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I called that with zek Elliott. All right, here's the
other topic here. If you're a Liance fan, if you're
Jamiir Gibbs agent, do you have to get a million
dollars more than BEJN Robinson?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Wasn't It was it Jamar Chase, who wanted one dollar
more than Justin Jefferson. I think I think you can
kind of the proof is in the pudding there where
it's less about necessarily more money. It's just sort of
the statement like all right, I am now the highest
paid blank.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, it does feel like it's more about the agent
than the player, because if you're Jamiir Gibbs, hey we're
getting fifty one and a half million dollars or fifty two.
What's the difference. But the agent has to say face
and get more than the last guy.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
And I think with the Falcons, they're putting money into
their skilled position receivers. Now there's pressure on those guys
to perform because last year, all season long, we called
them probably the most frustrating team because they'd have a
great showing one week and then a no show the
next week. So now you're putting money into these guys,
especially in a winn division like the NBC South. Come
on now, because now you put money into these guys,
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let's start winning.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But then you go back a couple of years ago
with the Falcons, why take Pennix when you don't need
Michael Pennox and that draft pick looks like it might
not work out. They could have put another tool in there.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I guess I would throw a question out to the
room if you were, say, your Jamier Gibbs, in this
upcoming contract situation, how important to you you, the player,
would it be to get that extra million dollars on
your contract?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I think it'd be very important.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I think that what happens all too often the agent
is chirping in the player's ear, and like what Pouli
was saying, maybe you're comfortable with getting a certain amount
of money and that's plenty, and I'm good to go.
But if you got an agent get talking you up
like you can't. You got to get at least this
much more than him. You are the best, and then
all of a sudden that starts causing a complications between
the player and the ownership.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, just a recap. Bjon Robinson of the Falcons signs
a new three year, seventy five million dollar contract. It's
really about fifty million with guarantees, but makes him the
highest paid running back of all time. And we are
entering maybe a different era where it's gonna be there's
gonna be star running backs to get star pay and
then the interchangeable guys like I'll just get Isaiah Pacheco
for a million five or guys that can rotate or
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take a guy in the fifth, sixth, and seventh round.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Now, when it comes to running backs, you have to
be a hybrid running bag. Derek Derek Henry is probably
like the last of the Mohegans where it's like he's
just a three yards in a cloud. It does type
of running bag. But the rest of those guys you
have to catch seventy to eighty balls a year in
order to be considered one of those top guys to
get paid that type of money.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Right, And it's not like Derek Henry's not a great receiver,
but when he gets it out there, if they could
just dump him off to him and he's in space,
he's facing a safety or a cornerback and they want
no part of him.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
So for the last three seasons of his entire career,
Jamier Gibbs has called seventy seven, fifty two and fifty
two balls each year. I mean, that's gonna go a
long way in contract negotiations, I would think.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But this does fly in the face of the most
successful NFL teams. If you go back to peak Patriots
Jonah Gray and Corey Dillon and rotate the running backs. Yeah,
Rex burkehead Marvin just had nice reference there. But they
would just rotate running backs season by season and never
commit and pay to any of them.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah. Besides, was that the Corey Dillon years.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, they paid him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
They paid him a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
But the rest of those guys, there was a guy
with a hyphen in his name, I don't even remember,
guys like James White, Guys like that where the interchangeable
parts and obviously the console was Tom Brady and even
the receivers interchangeable parts. So you just kind of need
you don't need like a real guy like that if
you're one of those teams.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And if you look at the Chiefs run the past
six or seven years, they drafted isaiaha Checko seventh round
out of Rutgers. They paid him four million dollars for
four years of work. They basically got him for nothing.
They want a couple couple super Bowls with him. Now
they have Kenneth Walker the third. They're actually investing in
the quarterback or the running back position because there's less
help for the quarterback. Tyreek Hill is not there anymore.
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Travis Kelsey is Travis Kelce like he was five years ago.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
Well, and Kenneth Walker's kind of been what I would
call sort of that the equivalent of the second tier
quarterback money, where it's like he's getting like thirteen ish
or something like that, which is sort of your Sam
Darnold type deal in running back for him, which you
can still like, you know, you can easily win with,
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you know, if you don't have the options to get
sort of the cream of the crop guy.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
I thought Isaiah Pacheco was going to be the centerpiece
of Hey, we don't have to pay running backs as
much because we're winning super Bowls with a seventh round
draft pick. Because to me, you can find a good
five to ten, two hundred pounds running back that runs
hard and that can get you a thousand yards every
single season as long as you have a great quarterback
with some great wide receivers. I thought that was going
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to be the shift, But you know, I'll proven wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
And if you look at what the Los Angeles Rams
are doing, they get Kyrien Williams out of Notre Dame
he's having a very good career. He wasn't a top
ten draft pick, he wasn't a first round raft pick,
so they haven't really paid him yet. That's a quandary.
He's been nothing but great, but they're gonna have to
pay him someday or let him go and let him
go to the next highest bidder and just replace him
at the running back position.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
And the funny thing is about the Chiefs is we
talked about him a couple of days ago. Clyde Edwards
Hilaire was a first round draft pick and he didn't
do what we expected him to do. We just thought
the rich would get richer, But instead you get Isaiabhachecki,
who was a seventh round draft pick.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
That comes up big for the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
And so the running back position, to me, you can
find a serviceable running back anywhere in the draft.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Well, that's what most teams do, at least historically, teams
do in the fourth, fifth, sixth rounds. If you look
at the Chicago Bears at the running back position last year,
they had Kyle Manungai, also seventh round, also out of Rutgers,
played really well for a rookie. They don't have to
pay him. He's making like nine hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
I would say, though, like an argument for the the
Bijon's and the Jamir Gibbs of the world is it's
like you can get these guys for twenty three million
or or whatever, or you could pay your Jamar Chases
and your jsns for north of forty million dollars. Where
I feel like we've seen the running back and wide
receiver position kind of start to meet in the middle
a little bit again in terms of perceived value. So
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it's like you are still getting a relative deal for
an offensive weapon maybe witho the longevity.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
And if you look at the market the past ten years,
running backs about every other year or every third year,
you get a special running back that's a top ten
type pick Jeremiah Love last year, Bijon Robinson, Saquon Barkley.
It doesn't happen often. It's a bit of an eclipse.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Gent also, Yeah, which we're still kind of in a
holding pattern, I would say on that, but again that
goes back to situation. Yeah, you need the infrastructure there,
like Hiaran Williams, like you said, Paul to the Rams,
like ideal scenario.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, they don't have to pay them. They got a
great offense around them. If you go back to gent
taken by the Raiders last year, Dan talked about this,
and we talked about this in detail in the show.
The Raiders weren't in position to take a running back
in the top ten. They didn't have a good offensive line.
I think PFF had their offensive line ranked twenty eighth
last year. Genty got roughed up out of Boise State.
He got rouffed up last year, and you kind of
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wasted his rookie year and people think, oh, he's not
working out that well. You put him a position to
not work out that well by not having an offensive
line to start with, Like Marvin you said with Ezekiel Ellen,
he walked in on scholarship.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
That's like when when Jeremiah Love was drafted by the Cardinals,
the first thing you said was, oh, that's I feel
terrible team. Yes, wrong team. If you put him anywhere
else with the serviceable offensive line, you're looking at man
fifteen hundred yards maybe, But now, unfortunately we might look
at him like a bus because he didn't have the
offensive infrastructure for a slow start.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yes, yeah, if you look at the Cardinals last year.
That's maybe one of those cases where what if they
traded down and took advantage of another team wanted to
jump up for Jeremiah Love and surround your team build
your team. That's one of the worst talent rosters in football,
and they went with a running back when they don't
have the talent to surround it. They do have Rogers us,
they do a tight end, They have a decent defense,
but offensive line not there.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Now do you think the Jeremiah Love draft pick was
let's pick the best player, but also let's get somebody
to excite the fan base in Arizona, somebody who can
be on the cover of your media guide going forward.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, I'm sure that's a strategy of a team like that.
That's not very relevant. Kyler Murray's gone. You don't have
a star on the roster. Marvin Harrison junior has star
power from college, but not star play. Trey McBride not
a star. But that's where I hope it wasn't a
marketing draft pick. Marketing draft picks rarely do they work out.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
You gotta get fans a reason to come out, I guess,
and if you know you're gonna be bad for.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
The next couple of years. You might as well get
someone that has some kind of name Breck.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But if the marketing staff has to say, come out
and watch Jeremiah Love run for three point six yards.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Of aage, fortunate, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
All right, Just recap Dan Patrick show working on Dan's audio, Dylan, Marvin,
Pauli and Fritzi here holding down the fort. A little
good news. How about a little good news in college football?
Notre Dame USC rivalry is back. Ish, Yeah, let's go.
It's back in three years from Oh what a lot
of barriers that one don't read the fide in print. Yeah,
(23:06):
starting in twenty thirty, Notre Dame versus USC will be back.
I think the first two years in this reincarnation will
be week one, once in Notre Dame, once out at
the coliseum. Then after that it will be somewhere in
weeks one, two, and three.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Your thoughts how far ahead do they go?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I asked you this off air and when we had
the pre show meeting, But can you explain, like, why
does it take so long that this can't get started
for three four years from now?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Generally in college football, the athletic directors put together their
out of conference schedules at least two years in advance.
You can go on like Texas's website or Georgia's and
see upcoming schedules, and a lot of it is out
of conference games. So that gap with Notre Dame in
USC is about they let it lapse. It's like the
a lease on a car. You let it lapse, you
got to restart it. They have to restart it, but
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it won't start till twenty thirty. But what really is
bothersome is letting it lapse in the first place. That's
really bothersome. It's a perfect rivalry. Notre Dame in their style,
USC and their style clearly don't like each other. It's
a national rivalry.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Is there a reason that they let it lapse, like
or was it purely just like, oh, we forgot to
fill out some paperwork.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Who's there exact who's your fault for that? I don't recall.
I'm trying to remember stories like who's to blame?
Speaker 10 (24:16):
How?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
And is it's on both sides? Why would that happen?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Ever, dyl And I like your idea that they didn't
file the paperwork in time, like an injunction oh, the
deadline was July first. We just didn't get it, Ducks.
You know, there's a lot of finger pointing. When the
dam Patrick Show was out at Notre Dame last year.
We talked to Pete Vaqua Notre Dame and he seemed
to point the fingers at USC for halting the rivalry.
Usc AD said, oh, we wanted to keep it going.
(24:43):
You don't really know who did. Notre Dame was pretty
stringent that they didn't want to stop it. And it
feels like when USC joined the Big Ten they were
looking for no offense, a couple early season wins, not
upping their schedule because they knew the Big Ten schedules.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Tough, Paul, you took the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
That's the first thing I thought of, Like, man, we
got to play Michigan, Ohio State, now Indiana where you
have Michigan State, all these other teams in that way
us he's on the schedule. Also, Man, we can't do
all of this and play all these really good teams.
So you know what, we might take a break, but
I'm glad they're back when we're out there in Notre Dame.
I mean, just the anticipation around that game was through
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the roof. And it's one of those rivalries where they're
not close in proximity, but it's a tale as old
as time. Like my entire life, it's been Notre Dame
USC as a big time rival.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
It's Hollywood versus the Midwest. You've been to both of
those campuses, Notre Dame and USC. They're polled their opposites,
and the thing is, you're right USC when they answered
the Big Ten said we have a tough conference schedule,
tougher than you know, Peak PAC ten Pac twelve, And
they say, you know what, we want to play Notre
Dame week one or how about a nice San Jose
State home game?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Oh we ever gonna learn who was afraid to play whom?
Because that says I would love for someone to step
forward and go, no, they.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Didn't want to play it US.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
No one's raising their hands for its on this one.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
I do think it's for it's advantageous for both of
them to get it out of the way week one, though,
because if you lose, you know, like if that game
is played later in the season, you know it could
be more of a stand out a little more in
terms of the recency bias, and.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
The beauty for Notre Dame is it's a win win
no matter what, because say, if you lose to Notre
Dame in Week one, man, we played a really tough
USC team to start the season.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
So I mean I like it, though, Dah, I hate
that it's three years.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, it's really silly as three years. When you saw
the headline, like you said, Notre Dame versus USC is
back in three years.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
That fine print got me. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
The other thing about Notre Dame is they are so
positioned to make the playoffs every year, even as is
without playoff expansion. Notre Dame front loads their schedule. They
play the really big teams like last year A and
M in Miami. They could afford losses, not even multiple
losses because the Playoffmitte looks as those as quality out
of conference losses, which is a weird thing. But Notre Dame,
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the last seventy five percent of their schedule is more
like Stanford, Navy, Boston College, generally winnable.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I think they end with QS this season.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
Two.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
That should be a wee.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That's friendly.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
That's friendly. I mean they make the college football playoff.
Notre Dame has overwhelmingly the best odds, so they're minus
eight hundred in Ohio State and Indian or minus three fifties.
So like, basically Vegas is telling you there's almost no
scenario that Notre Dame doesn't at least make the playoff.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
So this year for Notre Dame, the Irish schedule twenty
twenty six, neutral site versus Wisconsin week one, then some
friendly weekends Rice, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Stanford and
a very beatable Wisconsin yesh. So they finish the season
Navy Miami, that's their tough one. If their quarterback CJ.
(27:43):
Carr is going to win a Heisman, his chance will
be pile up yards the week's leading up to that,
and then take down Miami National TV, NBC and November seven.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Can't they put something in place where like you got
to play tougher teams late in the season. I understand
the schools don't want to have a late loss because
it's recency buyers and that could affect making the playoff
altogether or where they're ranked or whatever where they're seated,
But that's just so weak there, Like well d in
the beginning of the season and then they'll forget about
a bad early loss and then we'll just have the
cupcakes take us the rest of the way.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Well, Fritzi, you bring up the biggest problem with scheduling
in college football. They want to avoid tough games in November.
Besides those conference rivalries. If you're Ole, mess you're playing
Misissippi State, if you're North Carolina South Carolina. But they
want cupcakes to end the season, and a team like
Notre Dame is going to finish the season with kind
of traditional rivalries like Boston College, SMU and Syracuse. But
(28:29):
if you look at the SEC over the years, you'd
see Georgia versus Wafford on November tenth, eight Oh, you
see Alabama versus Citadel no offense preface.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
As a fan, your conditioned to it. As a season
comes to the an end.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
In any sport, that's when things really heat up, NFL, NBA,
anything goes last games matter so much, and then to
see it's really disappointing to see how college football is
so different and they go the other way.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I just had a quick question about Notre Dame Miami.
I know their arrival is their rivalry as in tense
as Notre Dame USC or was it just during the
Catholics Versus Convicts era where it was that intense of
a rivalry.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's a tough question. I grew up on Notre Dame
and Notre Dame Miami became a kind of a new rivalry,
like you said, in the eighties and nineties and went
away for a while. Usc I feature feels way more
old school. Michigan is very old school. But they have
like a series of them, but they're all national, They're
all distant rivalries like Notre Dame. Indiana would be a
rivalry now because Indiana is good.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Yeah, I'll be curious to see if that one blossoms
into something now, if Indiana can sort of maintain any
sort of stature that it's gained.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Well, one kicker in the story about Notre Dame versus
usc is being back, It looks like Notre Dame versus
IU is not going to be happening in the near future.
That one is on the shelf. And could it be
because IU is good now? The Hoosias are good. That's
what people think nationally now.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Is Notre Dame in the same position as Duke Is
where they're a national brand because they're not tied to
a city or state, like there's no city or state
in the does that helped the brand.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
One hundred percent. Notre Dame was almost like omnipresence. They're
like Kaiser SoSE. They're kind of in the Northwest Indiana
area where I have friends who go, Hey, I'm gonna
visit Chicago. Can we run over to see Notre Dame? Like, yeah,
it's two hours away. It's not down the street, it's
not in the South burbs of Chicago. Notre Dame is
kind of an entity more than a place.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
That blew my mind that South Bend was in a
different time zone than Chicago. I was like, wait.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
What, And that's really confusing because it's just over the border,
I mean time zone wise.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
At the risk of sounding ignorant, can the ncaafay have
no power at all to change this whole cupcakes thing
late in the season and there's no one has any
kind of power over these schools that all to say, hey,
you got to play a few more tough teams lately.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
We're gonna break and take some calls a second, But
Fritzy's point is that there is no NCAA scheduling zs are.
You have all these conferences making their own schedules, and
they work with in conjunction with ESPN, Fox Sports and
other places. But they don't need approval. If Wisconsin wants to,
if if Georgia wants to schedule the Citadel, there's no
stopping them. If in the end of the NFL is
(31:04):
a complete opposite. They have a complete scheduling office that
builds storylines, that builds weeks and make sure there's no
gaps in the schedule. If you wanted one thing that
would up college football bigger than it already is if
you had an NCAA scheduling office that worked with the
teams and the schools and the networks, and you can
make Notre Dame Texas week one. You can have usc
(31:27):
U c L a earlier in the season and then
maybe next year it's later in the season. You can
ensure Texas always plays A and M. You can make
sure Oklahoma always plays Texas on a certain date. Build
more traditions back. You can't control people in and out
of conferences, but you can control who plays who and
when and avoid Ohio State opening the season versus Ball.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Oh You got to make some calls we have.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
We have to.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
People in college football? Is this ridiculous? It's lasted this long.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I wish we'd call Charlie Baker right Stick around Dan
Patrick show. More to come after the break.
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Speaker 7 (32:09):
We had a new one Pauli too. This is a
bit of a left turn, but something Todd and I
were talking about yesterday. Oh boy, No, don't worry, it's
not bad.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Just because Dan's out for a couple of minutes, Here
comes Dan.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
How often do you replace your phone? Every time a
new one comes out every couple of years, whenever it
fully breaks or you.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Don't know what.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Just to give a little backstory on this, Fritzi was
talking about his phone, which I think is six years
old and says he never replaces it until he absolutely
has to.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
It's in bad shape and I can't even charge it
sometimes because I something with the prongs on the bottom
of the phone. We have to wiggle it a certain
way for it to charge. And sometimes the email comes in.
Sometimes it goes to email. The clock is starting to
like fade away. It's just a mess.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Now, Fritzie. I don't know if you know much about
these phone companies, but they want you to replace your phone,
and they give you incentives.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Does seem that way?
Speaker 5 (32:57):
I've seen the commercials were like, you know, bring in
your old phone and they'll give you all kinds of
presents and stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
So you prefer yours to work spodily as opposed to
walking in changing it over and walking.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I'm such a creature of habit.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I think I'm afraid, even with the cloud and everything,
somehow I'm gonna get a new phone and things are
gonna be missing where it's not gonna work the way
the other phone did. The same thing happened to me
with the BlackBerry, and that's why I'm like holding onto
this thing. But this morning, as a matter of fact,
I plugged it in and it's said, I've never seen
this before. I don't know if you've guys ever had this.
I think my phone is like an R X or
an XR. I don't even think they call it by
letter Z.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, yours is probably triple AX.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
It said you're unable to use the phone right now.
Try again in a minute, and I'm like, what is that.
I've never seen a message like that.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Because Todd quickly thank you Tod quickly based off that,
Will you drive to the phone store today and get
a replace?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
It will not be today, It might be a weekend
thing or in the coming weeks. I keep putting it off,
and it's just out of laziness and just a fear
of that the next phone is somehow going to be
uncomfortable to use.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
So the uh we're currently I believe on the iPhone
seventeen that's the latest model Todd as the XR, which
I believe would put that at around eight years old.
At this point, I am a thirteen and mine is
like really on death's door, So I can only imagine
just does yours?
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Even?
Speaker 7 (34:09):
Can you make calls?
Speaker 5 (34:10):
I can make calls, but I noticed that somebody will
go to my Gmail like an email and then but
for it to get to my regular email, it'll take
several minutes.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
It'll say, connecting door.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
And welcome back to the Dan Patchow Dyl and Margaret, Fritzy,
Paul and pack pass holding it out down the fort
coming up in a little bit. Albert Breer of the
Monday Morning Quarterback to talk about all the camps, get
his take on the running back market, and a regular
guest on this show. We have him on every year.
Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic. He is
a nuts and bolts guy, really sharp, really smart. He
(34:37):
does a thing every year, his NFL quarterback tiers. And
I purposely not looked at this and we won't spoil it,
so Dan could do the seg with Mike Sando, But
I just want to give you a little nugget. He
has I think four or five different tiers of quarterback
Tier one, two, three, four and five. Pretty obvious. Paul
Tier three, Fritzy Tier three. Bo Nix is on tiers
(35:00):
three year thoughts insulting.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I've been seeing a number of things, not just this ranking,
but for the past number of months looking into the
upcoming season, and I think bo Nix is being disrespected.
I don't know if it's because it's just, you know,
he doesn't have the name valued that some of the
other top quarterbacks have, that he's young, that they needed
all these wild comebacks. You know, if he's so great,
then why did they have to, you know, pull off
all these last fourth quarter comebacks.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
They should have had a.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Big lead early. Whatever the thinking is. I'm pissed off
about that.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Were easy, easy, I am.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I'm upset.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I don't know how you're there tier three. I also
don't know why the Broncos have to visit the Chiefs
week one after we had.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
The one See that's not an insult, no, but that's.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Ridiculous that you should come to Denver. We were the
one seat.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I will say bo Nix does feel like it's a
little bit of a slight after what he did with
that team, overachieving and doing it in the playoffs and
get in them really in position to make a run
last year.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I don't I don't appreciate it. And Dylan, we we
talked about this too before. You like bo Nicks a
little more than this so called pundens or experts.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
I would put him at at least seventeen Todd.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
That's not helping me at all. Seventeen has been barely
at the bottom of tier two.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
I mean, the bigger crime is having Lamar Jackson in
tier two. But yeah, we're doing Homer picks over here.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, just one more little tidbit on the Mike Sandal
list they got Lamar Jackson's the leader. Would you rather
be the number one in Tier two or the last
one in Tier one?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I'd rather be in Tier one or one. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Let's take a few calls. Let's start with Oh here
comes David and Ohio David, what do you have for
us today?
Speaker 9 (36:23):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Looks up.
Speaker 10 (36:23):
Pauling could hold down the court. I had to comment
about the had to comment about the calendar you guys
are putting out. I think in February the page should
just be a picture of the AT and T Stadium
with the time that says close for business, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
That's a running gag every week calls in with his
Cowboys chat. Let's do one more call Fresh in Milwaukee, Fresh,
what do you have for us?
Speaker 9 (36:47):
What?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Man?
Speaker 9 (36:49):
I gotta say, you guys held it down so dope, man,
that was really dope. I think VP should go do
VP present the Dan Nix. But anyway, but he's thinking
about them running backs and how you guys were talking
to gout and be thinking if you were giving the
keys to the franchise, would your first two picks be
a great quarterback and a great left tackle or would
(37:11):
it be a great running back, a great corner would
your first speak.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Dan next, So you're saying, if you're building a team
from scratch right now in the NFL, what two positions,
not players, would you take? I think you almost have
to take quarterback off the board for this discussion. Otherwise
I can't imagine someone taking another position player over, you know, whatever,
be Jade and Daniels, Caleb Williams, whoever you love who's
top tier, or Patrick Mahomes or or Matt Stafford he's older,
(37:38):
but Joe Burrow. You almost have to take that off,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Without question, the most important position in all of sports,
period is the quarterback. I'd probably go with a left
tackle and edge rusher.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, I think a lot of people would agree. If
you have an all pro left tackle and all pro
edge rusher, you're pretty set at the two most important pains.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Anyone disagree, Not that I'm disagreeing, but I would. If
we're talking in the draft, I would just take the
best player, almost not regardless of position. Obviously, I'd wait,
maybe like your quarterback or whatever, and rusher into your alignement.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You can make the case that the Cowboys did this
year this year with Caleb Downs. Safety is usually not
a top ten position with the draft, but they look
at Caleb Downs as a no question mark guy, a
guy who's starting week one, hopefully starting your ten.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I think I'm taking an rusher and a great wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
I know you want to have the protection of the quarterback,
but if you just stay in shotgrun and then you'll
have a couple extra seconds to get the receiver open
and get it to the receiver.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
But you know what's crazy about the wide receiver. Besides
JSN this past year, you don't need an all world
wide receiver to win Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
It seems like you could find a T. Higgins who's
a B plus or someone like that, who if you
don't have an A you could coddle together a wide
receiver room right, as long as you have a really
good core like you should be all said. Then you
look at a like peak DeVante Adams with Aaron Rodgers.
Those two are such a match that you know you
may pick the wide receiver, like Fritzy said.
Speaker 7 (39:07):
I mean, and even last year, you know Jayson Offensive
Player of the Year Jon Robinson had five hundred more
yards from scrimmage than Jayson did. Receiving yards. I know
that's not apples to apples, but if you're talking about
total production, and.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
How frustrating is it if you're an Atlanta Falcons fan
where you can't win the NFC.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
South, can't not camp? Can't they haven't they simply won't
not camp for this coming season. I coming up a
little bit, Dan, we'll be back with us. We'll talk
to Albert Breer of the Monday Morning Quarterback and Mike
Sando from the Athletic with his quarterback Tierless. Sure to
upset you. Stick around, Dylan, Marvin, Fritzy Pauli holding down
the Fort or Dan Patch show after this
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