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Eight seven, seven to three.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
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so we got a few things to talk about here.
Christian McCaffrey is if he for Week two, Panthers lose
their best player. Now you're probably not aware that Derek
Brown is their best player, but coming off a Pro
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Bowl season defensive tackle, he's gone for the year. Justin
Field's likely to start for Pittsburgh in Denver. This was
one of the more expensive tickets pre season because it
was Russell Wilson going back to Denver and Bronco fans
were ready to welcome him. And it's looking like Justin
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Fields will get the start against the Broncos. Also, the
NFL is looking at a new Deshaun Watson lawsuit. It's
new because it's been refiled, but it's from an old
charge back in twenty twenty. There was a immediate speculation
yesterday out of Cleveland that this was maybe fed to
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the Cleveland media to bring up and now maybe a
way for Cleveland ownership to get out of this contract
with Deshaun Watson. So the timing of this very curious. Yes,
it's from an old chart. Now you know, the Cleveland
Browns ownership is already said basically, we don't care what
he did off the field. You brought him in, you
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paid him two hundred and thirty million dollars. I don't
know if you can go, hey, he's not playing well.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We're really disappointed that this charge lawsuit from twenty twenty
has come back up refiled. Now, is there a way
to get out of this contract? I mean, I wouldn't
put it past Brown's ownership that they would do something
like this, And they're looking at buyer's remorse.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Here with Deshaun Watson. But that came up yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It was like, okay, somebody's refiling a lawsuit twenty twenty,
and then all of a sudden, it's could the Browns
get out of this contract with Deshaun Watson. I don't
know the legalities of that, but if the NFL's looking
into it, I guess there's the possibility. I don't know
the language there with I don't know if they put
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any language in his contract. When you think about it, hey,
we're going to take you. What you did off the
field is criminal, certainly creepy, but hey, we're going to
give you two hundred and thirty million dollars. We're not
that bothered by it. And now all of a sudden,
can you say you're bothered by it? Is there language
in his contract that would allow you to get out
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from underneath a two hundred and thirty million dollar contract,
everything is guaranteed. I guess if i'm the Brown's ownership, sure,
I mean, my moral compass isn't pointing, you know, in
the right direction to begin with with Deshaun Watson. So
if you decide that you go, yeah, let's get out
of this. I don't know if somebody's going to go, Wow,
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what a lack of integrity already shown it you brought
in to Shaun Watson. Now, he said he's got other
things on his mind, a couple of deaths in the family.
His father died, and he didn't play well. He hasn't
played well. But that was not something that we worried
about with Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson when he played with Houston,
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played pretty well.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
For a bad team. He didn't want to go to Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I'm total. He wanted to go to Atlanta. Cleveland said, no,
you want to go to Cleveland. Everything is guaranteed. Yes, Pully,
there's a couple of articles out there. It's very a
lot of legal ease.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
But to summarize, there's things in Deshaun Watson's contract that
under the category of default, like let's say you go
skydiving and gets hurt. You know, the typical stuff that
everybody has. But he has some things in there that
normal player might not certain things around conduct detrimental, being
suspended under the NFL's Personal Conduct policy, performance asing drugs,
et cetera. Also, he has a clause if the club
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reasonly believes that he is engaged in personal conduct, et cetera,
et cetera. So he has a number of clauses in
the contract that the normal player might not have because
there's previous situations.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, but these are preexisting lawsuits. This isn't something new
that's come up that to me is would be a
non starter with you know, conduct detrimental. This was before
you've already signed off on Deshaun Watson. You can't be
bothered by one lawsuit if you weren't bothered by twenty
three lawsuits. And I would say if something came up now, okay,
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you know, but they're talking about things that would come up.
Now player charged with indicted for convicted of conduct which
would be subject to a charge, indictment or conviction or
any such offense. Okay, I mean that's for the duration
of his contract. But I don't know if Deshaun Watson
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closed things that were there allegations. Did they know this
was coming, you know, before he signs this contract, before
the Browns gave him the contract. I'm gonna guess you're
not gonna sign him if you think that there's the
possibility that he could go to jail, be suspended. But
now this came up, and it's from a charge a
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lawsuit in twenty twenty from what I've read and the
immediate speculation. Now, if he was playing well, people wouldn't
care about this, But he has not played well. And
you start to look at that Cleveland team, and they
do have talent there. I know they don't have Nick Chubb.
Amari Cooper is a quality receiver, he's not a number
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one receiver. David and Joku can be really good. Jerry Judy,
I don't know if he's ever going to be. I mean,
he just strikes me as somebody who was fast at
Alabama and didn't do much after that. I don't know,
it's not bad to have a third receiver like that,
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but I just don't know how much he cares about
playing football. And then you got I mean, I got
Myles Garrett. It feels like you have things. You went
to the playoffs with Joe Flacco. It just seems like
if you have Deshaun Watson back. I mean, it's not
similar to Aaron Rodgers, but it does feel like they
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went to the playoffs with Joe Flacco Deshaun Watson there,
they should be even better. The Jets won seven games
with Zach Wilson. They should be better with Aaron Rodgers.
But you know, the Cleveland Browns, they went to the
playoffs and now all of a sudden you're looking at
them now. Granted Dallas, Dallas is a better team, but
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Dallas hit Deshaun Watson seventeen times.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It was the league high for a game. And if
you say, well, compare the numbers.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
The next closest was eleven times a quarterback was hitting
the game.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
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I said it yesterday on the show, and Paulie goes,
are you sure about seventeen? I go, yes, the Browns
hit Uh. He got hit seventeen times by the Cowboys
in that game. Now you're going to be a little
gun shy if just about every play you're dropping back
to pass you're going to get hit. You know, you're
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going to start to think about it. You're going to
get it down a little quicker. He looked uncomfortable the
entire game. But is this about Deshaun Watson? Is it
about the Cleveland Browns. It feels like, you know, the
onus is on Deshaun Watson, like we're paying and he
should be great. You're paying him, you gave him guaranteed.
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Now you were desperate. I got a factor that in
as well, Denver desperate. I got factor that in as well.
With Russell Wilson. You know, these franchises act stupid. Sometimes
brilliant businessmen to make billions and then they act stupid.
I mean what the Giants did with Daniel Jones. Don't
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understand it. Don't understand it. And the Browns you spend
that kind of money under Sean Watson. I don't think
you can be incredulous to say I can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Because when I saw it, I thought, is this a
new one?
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Was he getting a massage in Cleveland?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Now all of a sudden you got grounds to maybe
terminate that contract. This is from twenty twenty, and you've
already moved past this. Ownership wise, it's like, yeah, boy,
that's terrible what he did. Here's two hundred and thirty
million dollars. Come on in, all's forgotten with us.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We don't care, yes, Marmon.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
And it was guaranteed, And I'm sure other owners were
looking at the Browns like, whoa, this is the guy
you're giving First of all, don't give him guaranteed money.
Don't give this guy guaranteed money.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
The ownership was not happy with that around the NFL,
from what I'm told. But you see how much Dak
Prescott's got contracts guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Two hundred thirty one million dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Do you think it's just a two thirty and then
he coincidentally got.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
A two hundred and thirty one million dollar deal. I
don't think so, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
What makes even worse for Cleveland is that they have
to watch Baker Mayfield throw for twenty eight touchdowns and
ten picks at one third the price.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Right, Yeah, uh so, you know you have these contracts.
The Cowboys officially tied to Dak Prescott for the next
four seasons, and you know you have to these teams
take a chance. Denver took a chance Cleveland. You know,
they had to get rid of the number one overall
pick Baker Mayfield to make way for Deshaun Watson. And
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Baker has played really well. Deshaun Watson's played thirteen games
in two seasons. The Broncos whifted on Russell Wilson. They
gave him two hundred and forty five million dollars. The
experiment lasted two seasons. They're paying him over thirty five
million dollars to not play for them, to play for
the Steelers. Teams are aggressive, but if we've learned anything
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from these quarterbacks, a proven commodity holds tremendous value in
today's NFL. You got to overpay sometimes then there are
times when you're going to whiff. I just don't know
how Denver can say, come on in and we got
to trade guys.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I guess it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's a terrible deal. Deshaun Watson is a terrible deal.
That's because ownership is desperate to find their franchise quarterback.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
Yes, he when do we start looking at if the
Broncos whiffed with their head coach.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I would say the development of Bo Nicks. I mean,
he probably bought himself two seasons because if Russ continued
to play and play poorly, then.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
We would look at the head coach there.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But I I mean when Sean Payton came in, he said,
this is a mess and this coach it's one of
the worst coaching jobs ever. And then Sean did not
like Russell Wilson wasn't his kind of quarterback, and he
was going to get rid of him very costly. But
now you got your guy. Now you got your next
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Drew Brees or you better hope because if not, you'll
have two seasons to prove yourself.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
Yes, Mark, if you're a Browns fan, ooh, you're hoping
that the Texans don't win the Super Bowl, like, oh,
not a game.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Well, there's a couple of teams like Carolina.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Better hope the Texans don't win the Super Bowl because
I mean, I watched when Bryce Young threw the pick
six and he went over to the bench and it
was like somebody brought their son to work day and
he was just kind of sitting there, you know when
your kids don't want to be someplace and they're kind
of moping, and he just had this really sad.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Look on his face. And I don't know him. I
think we had him on during the draft, but I
feel bad for him. Like there's certain situations where you go,
I don't know if it gets any better. I don't
know how it gets much better because it's Carolina. With
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that ownership, you lose your best player, Bryce Young goes.
I mean imagine going to the line of scrimmage going.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Oh my god, I'm gonna be running for my life.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
We don't have any weapons. This ain't Alabama. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Do I have any eligibility left? Maybe I'll go back
to Alabama, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
It's like the lifestyle is so different for like Rock Purty.
He goes, I could run it or i could drop
back and comfortly pass it to a number of people,
and I'm probably gonna have a lot of time to
do so it's like they're playing two different football games.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Those guys.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And you know, here's the Niners with now Christian McCaffrey,
and it's not a big deal. He may not play
this next game. Okay, I get what other Let's say
he was on another team. Let's say he was in Carolina.
This would be a huge deal if Christian McCaffrey couldn't play.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
But with the.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Niners, all right, you know, we got this guy over here,
Jordan Mason. He seemed to do really well.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
We're fine. I mean, that is depth, that is a luxury.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Here the best player or the number one fantasy player,
and you're like, yeah, okay, we'll see when he gets back.
And this is one of those injuries that stays with you.
I've mentioned before, if you have a sprained ankle, you're
always gonna have it because it'll be you'll be more
susceptible to getting a sprained ankle. Now, this is tendonitis
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that Christian McCaffrey has. This has been there and going
to be there probably his entire career. There are certain
injuries that are lasting injuries, and this is one that
will stay with him. They said it flared up, and
in fairness to the Niners, I'll believe then that it
flared up and then they decided they weren't going to
have him suit up in that game. All right, we're
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Speaker 3 (16:03):
Settle on a poll question.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
You know you see that date nine to eleven and
it should always resonate. Certainly does with me and hard
to believe that what have we now twenty three years
is that right twenty two to twenty three years away.
It still doesn't make sense when you think about nine
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to eleven. And I've talked about this, but you know
it should be brought up every year, and not just
the anniversary, but all those first responders, firefighters, BMTs, you know,
just the police officers going there, going in, people coming
out trying to get out. And my two brothers in
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law spent close to three months down there cleaning up
as firefighters. What they saw they don't even talk about.
But you just like the it happened, and you're going,
wait a minute, this is in New York. That's the
World Trade Center, and that first plane, I mean, it
looked like CGI. It just even now when I watch it,
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it's like it happened. I used to work in that
building on the eighteenth floor, and you're just thinking, and
I just had this rolodex that I went through of
that building and walking in and there was this big
magazine stand there, and then there was coffee over here,
you could get pastries over like. You just started going
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around the building and realizing those people just got to work,
those that were getting to work later and then everything
that happened after that.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So I mean, man, I know it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Feels like a long time ago, but it also feels
like it wasn't that long ago. And to those people,
first responders and firefighters, EMTs, we salute you.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
We do.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Let's see, let's settle on a poll question here today,
seet no connor?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
What do you have for me? Shall we shall we?
How about?
Speaker 9 (18:10):
This might be? What if we started doing a thing
called power rankings and then we also have sour rankings? Yeah,
or perhaps dour rankings. Okay, do enough people know dour?
The word dour?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (18:26):
I should hope so I know they know sour. I
give our audience a lot of credit. Okay, their vocabulary,
Todd doesn't. Tod does not give our audience credit. Todd,
do you want to describe? Give me the definition of dowurs?
Should we run around the room to see if we
all know it down?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Well, let me start with the guy who had the
highest grade point graduate second in his car.
Speaker 12 (18:45):
I just bring it up every once in a while,
just to.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Share with the class the bread.
Speaker 12 (18:50):
Yeah, okay, dower to me is you know, when you're
looking down on something dour sounds like down. That's the
best word I would use your Your kind of things
aren't going well? I'm not you know behind this person
or a group of things is going in a bad direction.
I'm down on it.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Okay, all right, Marvin. Do you have a definition for dour?
What Fritzy said?
Speaker 9 (19:09):
Okay, you can't get it any better than that.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think Webster's dictionary having to do with being dowur.
I do like that. Yeah, wait, that's not a definition, Paul.
Do you have a definition of dour?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Yeah, being in a sullen or melancholy mood, a feeling
of maybe hopelessness.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Wait are you reading that?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Did you read that?
Speaker 11 (19:35):
Now?
Speaker 12 (19:36):
I like that the hopelessness.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's a good one, Satan. Do you have the definition
of dowur? Uh?
Speaker 9 (19:41):
Sort of like gloomy is the way that I use it.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Gloomy? Yeah, sort of?
Speaker 9 (19:45):
Yeah, down would be right, but yeah, just not not
looking good sort of in a gloomy way.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Okay, that's different than sour.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
It's dour sour, let's see that, having an acid taste
like lemon or vinegar, feeling or expressing resentment, disappointment, or anger.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Okay, Okay, So what do we want to do? Do
we want Dowur Todd? You want Dower or sour?
Speaker 12 (20:09):
I think the easy one to go with is sour ragging?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
All right?
Speaker 9 (20:12):
This says Dower relentlessly, severe, stern, or gloomy in a
manner or appearance. Okay, seen, you want Dowur or sour.
I'm more of a dour guy, but I'm open to sour.
I'm not a hardliner on this.
Speaker 12 (20:26):
Is when you have something sour, you make that face.
And that's what you make when you're thinking about that person, place,
a thing that you're not into.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Like I'm doing it right now to you, exactly what
you always do when I talk.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
My problem is sour patch kids are the greatest candy
ever invented, and I have a hard time to me,
sour isn't necessarily always a negative word.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
But then I always think of Rich Dower, who played
I think for the Baltimore Orioles.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Is that right Ton, Yeah?
Speaker 13 (20:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (20:51):
And rich Dower Rymple that used to be a cowboy's
public relations man.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Marvin, that's true to the Kelly, that's true. That's true.
It is a Marvin Dower sour.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
You know what I'm gonna go with Dower. Okay, you
learn something new every day. Okay, we're educating.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Okay, Paul Dower sour.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Like to sour on something with something you previously liked,
and you're changing your mind, you no longer like it.
It makes sense. I'm also gonna go Dowur rankings. It's original.
It's a It sounds like we're somewhat educated, boye mm, somewhat,
which we're not.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
All right, I guess we'll do power Dour ranking. Let's
jump into the Dour rankings then, shall we? Right now,
the Browns I would put them, that's a Dour ranking.
They are having a Dow They're up there. Tom Brady's
first week broadcasting. Okay, are we opening this up to
not just teams? We're gonna just go could we go uniforms?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
And I think you could do like he just do sports,
holl the smoker, and just do sports. Just do sports.
I think sports right now. I don't want to venture
too far out of that. So just a Tom Brady's
TV career right now? Where does that go in the
Dour rankings?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (21:59):
Okay, all right, it's a little bit of an overreaction,
but we're here for that. Yes, yes, the Giants uniforms
were terrible.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Now Paul liked him. He's wrong, They're they're nod for
the Montreal Canadians, actually wrong, and he is factually incorrect. Yes,
my opinion is factually right. Those were terrible. But Paulie goes,
if they played well, you would like those uniforms. That
does factor in. They just came out and I go,
oh no, no, this isn't going to go well, and
then it didn't right away.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Yes, okay, I'm not trying to change things up already.
But we could also do another version of this called
power or dour. So Paul might put the Giants uniforms
as a power whereas I have them as a dour.
You could do dex contract. Is that power or dour?
There might be people who hate that contract. I happen
to love it.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (22:48):
So is the segment going to be individual power rankings
and then Dowur rankings or are we doing power or dour?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I'm confused, Yes, right right, I think it's the two
part thing.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I think we first do dour rankings things that are
just down and we all throw out them. But then
we could do things we're not sure whether they're good
or bad, and that could be a separate power of dowt.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
Okay, yeah, the I put the Carolina Panthers high on
the dowur ranking. Yes, yes, I mean first throw of
the season's in interception. That's not the way that you
want to start things.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
He would like to have that one back.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I heard that over the weekend and I went, oh,
bang my head against the wall.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
No, I think he's fine with that. He threw a
pick six. I think he's comfortable with Why do we
say things like that.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
I feel like if I ever did play by play,
I'm almost positive I would say that, man, he's gonna
want that one back.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Then I'd be like, God, why did I do that?
Speaker 14 (23:45):
Dang?
Speaker 9 (23:45):
I heard it last night. Man, he's gonna want that
one back.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, no kidding, it was terrible, No kidding.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I think you just feel like, Okay, you don't need
want to be critical and say what are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That's a terrible throw. You're like, well, I'd like to
have that one back.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It doesn't sound as critical as harsh with somebody.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yes, time is it a crutch?
Speaker 12 (24:06):
A little bit like I'm not sure what to say.
It's just an easy thing to put there.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
Probably it's like every time there's a good play, no
matter what the sport is, but especially uh in say football,
it feels like, you know, something good happens. Someone on
the broadcast yels, I mean, are you kidding me? I
don't know, man, Yeah, it's like this happens every week.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I mean, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Dude, we see guys are supposed.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
To be really good if we did something like that,
and then you'd say, you gotta be kidding me?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Are you kidding me? Yeah? What? Yes, it was a
great play that happened to Yes, I'll.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Throw Notre Dame football's playoff chances on the Dowur rankings.
On the Dow they could have a good season, but
the Dower ranking says they're in trouble.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That's what I'm hearing. Okay, Oh, sources close to the Dower.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Rankings people games playoff chances. They are in the Dower
rank Okay, we got room for one more. We if
we have Tom Brady's TV career Giants uniforms Notre Dame's
playoff chances. What I think Paul is very much objecting
to the Giants uniforms maybe there's a debate there. No,
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it's going to be the start of power of dour.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
I think the Giants were worse on the field with
their play than their uniforms. Their uniforms actually hid how
bad they were on the field as a team.
Speaker 9 (25:25):
Okay, our one pole question is going to be which
was worse? Giants uniforms? Giants play?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
There we go, all right, nailed. It isn't Eli Manning
joining us tomorrow. Todd, he really is.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
He should have been joining that much really is as
opposed to he is, but it's a fact that he
will be.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Jame really is not He's just he is.
Speaker 12 (25:43):
He's really does he pretends to He's actually gonna be.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Alrighty, all right, so we're I guess gonna pull question today.
Giants uniforms, Giants play? Which was worse?
Speaker 9 (25:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Of course, that's what you'd expect in this program. What
if Justin Fields turns out to be good this weekend?
What if Pittsburgh beats Denver and Justin Fields plays, well,
we got a quarterback controversy. We might already have a
quarterback controversy. But you know, this is one of those
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injuries that maybe it stays with Russ and you know,
it's one of those that might flare up from time
to time, and that might be one of those where,
you know, Mike Tomin will say, you know, for now,
we're riding justin fields here. You want to know, didn't
score touchdown, but got the win. And I think Mike's
probably saying, just don't lose a game for us. Defense
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is going to keep us in games. We've got a
really good field goal kicker, run the football, and a
couple of timely passes there. But you got Denver coming up,
and this is a big deal, all right. A couple
of phone calls Nate in Ohio, Hi, Nate, what's on
your mind today?
Speaker 13 (26:57):
Thanks to taking my call first time, first time, extremely
long time. Thank you. So I just wanted to start
quick and explain that I'm a lifelong, very dour Browns fan.
It's been especially dour rooting for this team for the
past couple of years. But I went into the season
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determined to kind of put a better brave face on
it and try to enjoy Browns football as much as
I could. And of course we have the performance on Sunday,
and now we have this new allegation, and so I
think it's very reasonable as a legal entity that the
Browns made a contract with an individual with a certain
portfolio of problems.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But this isn't a new charge though, Nathan, that's the
problem with this, if you're saying, can we get out
from underneath this contract? I don't think the NFL is
looking into this because if you're looking at this is
an old charge, but it's newly filed. It's it's been
there for four years. I don't know if the NFL
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was going to act upon this. I don't know if
the Browns are once again, this was just speculation that
came out yesterday, and I don't think that the NFL
would allow the Cleveland Browns to use this as you
know language that's in the contract to conduct detrimental yeah pulling.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
League spokesman Brian McCarthy yesterday late yesterday said we are
reviewing the complaint. We will look into the matter under
the Personal Conduct Policy, not looking at Commission's exemplist as
there's been no formal charges and the league's review has
just begun.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Chris in Utah, Hi Chris, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (28:40):
And thanks? Thanks for the time. I love the show.
I was listening to my Floria yesterday, and Floria was
talking with the Deshaun Watson contract, and he said that
there's plan language in there that even if it is
an older complaint, but a new suit that wasn't reported
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when Deshaun Watson was suspended for all the other lawsuits
that were filed, that he that he settled, that there
is plian language in there that the Browns may be
able to get out of the cont Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
But if you've refiled a lawsuit, then the lawsuit was
filed in the first place. And that's where I think
this is kind of a tricky area, a tricky road
to go down. I mean, we're dealing with the timing
of this, semantics of this, the fact that it was
four years ago. It's not like it's a new allegation
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that happened while he was with the Cleveland Browns. Jeremy
and Texas. Hi, Jeremy wents on your mind today.
Speaker 14 (29:47):
Hey, guys, thank you for staking my call. So pretty
much beat that bush with a hammer. I can't really
go through the contract things. I did want to say, Hey,
how about the Beat team quarterbacks in the NFL. You
know the Beat Team guys are doing great, you know,
and the eighteen guys are kind of struggling, so you
know it's gonna be interesting. See it's good to see
quarterbacks that aren't known for their promist to be definitely
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not being dower this season.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Well, I mean it is week one. You know, we
had like Sam darl one game. If you can play
the Giants the entire season, Sam Darnold might go to
the Hall of Fame. Chris in Sacramento.
Speaker 15 (30:26):
Hi, Chris, Hey, Dan, next for taking my call. I
just want to add to the Mike Florio because I
listened to him this morning and the contract dispute. So
what the language said is he had to when he
met with the Browns, he had to disclose everything that
was in contract that he the sexual assault cases that
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he did. If a person's not on that claim list,
he Brown can get out of it. It's on paragraph
forty two. Mike Floria was explaining about it this morning,
So exactly she did not disclaim this person that made
the new claim, the brown can't get out of his contract.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
It's in paragraph forty two.
Speaker 15 (31:08):
Mike Floria was explaining about it this morning.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
All right, well, thank you, Chris, But once again, if
it was filed, so it's already been presented publicly, and
then maybe it went away. Now they're refiling. Now are
there new charges in there? It feels like there could
be something here. I just don't know how the Cleveland
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Browns are going to be able. Do they want to
get rid of DeShawn? Let me start there. If you're
the Browns and you can get out from underneath his contract,
you asked them today, would they say yes, buyer's remorse?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I would. You can find quarterbacks that are bridge quarterbacks.
You found a guy who was on the couch last
year who took you to the playoffs, Deshaun Watson while
he was great four years ago, five years ago.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
That's an eternity. I would get out from underneath the contract.
But it would be interesting to hear the Browns ownership
if they would, ever, you know, be front and center
and say, you know, we object to this charge. You know,
the other ones we were okay with, but this one
we have a real problem with. But if it saves you,
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you know, a couple hundred million dollars, I guess I
would explore that because right now you're stuck with him.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Vince in Austin, Hey, Vince, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Hey guys, Good morning, gentlemen. Ritzy Uh as much as
complain I do by Jeremy Jones and the Cowboys, just
brag we're not the Browns. Oh my gosh, maybe this
year hires Kevin Coustner like the Draft Day movie. Couldn't
do any worse.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Thank you, Vince. I like that idea.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, it's the let's compare our franchise to somebody else's situation.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Well, we could always be the Browns.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Now, it's just you put yourself in this position, and
we all said at the time, you're going to give
him all that guaranteed money. This is the kind of
person he is. Is he going to be a difference
maker for you?
Speaker 14 (33:19):
Like, I.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
It feels like just about every position, Like running back
Christian McCaffrey didn't play. Jordan Mason played because he's running
behind a great offensive line and he looked really good.
Now if he played for Carolina, then you'd go and
guy's not any good.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's brock perty.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
If I put him in Carolina and put Bryce Young
in San Francisco, are they different quarterbacks? And the answer
is yes. Situations matter where you're going who you're with.
But Deshaun Watson, you paid him to be a star
for a team that is playoff ready, showed it last year,
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and he just doesn't look like himself. He looks lost,
and you got a guy in his primet. Now he
could turn out, you know, all of a sudden, turn
this around and go I'm going to ball out here maybe,
And then all of a sudden, do the Cleveland Browns
want to get out from underneath that contract?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
After that performance? You're going, when can we get out
from underneath this?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
And look, I trust Florio, he's a lawyer. Looking at
this legally is wise, But I don't know if it's
if Deshaun didn't disclose this, but it was public. So
that's the tricky part for me that I would go, well,
wait a minute, this was already made public in the lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Was he hiding something?
Speaker 9 (34:44):
Yes, well, I mean you've touched on it before. But
that's even Still that's a tricky spot for the Browns
because what they're essentially saying is, you know, if you
had just told us he did this, then we wouldn't mind. Oh,
if you'd just to close the disclose this earlier in
the process. This wouldn't be an issue. But now because
you didn't tell us, it is an issue. We were
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fine with everything else that you did, and that's why
we signed you. But now because you didn't tell us
about this one, now we're not okay with.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
All the other sexual harassment charges.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
If you had just told us about this one specifically, too,
then it wouldn't be a problem and you could keep playing.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
How about we take a break here, good time to
take a break. Play of the Day is up next.
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Speaker 4 (35:40):
This is the play of the day.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Check this out one all on the way and it
swung on hitting the air right center field, up the alley.
Looking up is thee Luca and that is it. It's gone.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It's a record breaker.
Speaker 10 (35:53):
Kyle Schwarmer with this port team lead off home run
this season on all time Major League best.
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It is weird to see a guy who looks like
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Kyle Schwarber and either homers, walks, or strikes out as
a leadoff guy, because it used to be, you know,
the typical leadoff guy was that pesky guy who was
gonna have a little grounder to the shortstop and beat
it out or get hit by a pitch, or take
a walk, maybe a double. Now it's just they come
(37:06):
on up here down swing for a home run, either walk, strikeout,
or hit a home run. Fascinating, fascinating to watch because
it's like, shouldn't he be batting.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Like third or fourth or fifth?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
It's like, yeah, and you always want that fast guy
leading off, gonna get on base. You're gonna disrupt thing.
Lou Brock, Maury Wills, Ricky Henderson, get on bas stirred
up a little bit.
Speaker 8 (37:32):
Yes, Marv, I'm a little younger than you. I was
gonna say, like Brett Butler or Lenny Dykster. Wow, those
guys A pesky sacrifice, bunt.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Gritty gunny, Yes, Ton, and.
Speaker 12 (37:41):
Then he steals second and third, and then you get
a sack fly and you get a run immediately.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Thank you, Tom. Is that how it works?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
That's kind of how Elie Dela Cruz has stolen third
base twenty times this season. The last player to do
that for the Cincinnati Reds to steal more than twenty
times third base Dan Sanders back in nineteen ninety seven, seven.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Day startup dayDay start today, start up to day, start.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Up Chemo in Virginia, beach Chemo. What's on your mind today, Danny?
Speaker 11 (38:20):
Danny? I woke up in power and then the first
segment talk about the Sean Danny, were ready for Week
two of football. Can't we just all turn the other chief, Danny?
Can't we just turn the other cheek?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
No? No, I mean I have to look at this
from the football aspect of this. They didn't play well,
they lost to the Cowboys. He got hit seventeen times,
and then this story comes out. It's an actual, you know,
a lawsuit that's filed, civil lawsuit with Deshaun Watson. Did
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he disclose this? Did the Browns know about this? Could
they get out from underneath his contract? I think it's
fair to ask the questions. And that's all I'm doing.
I'm covering the football aspect. I saw the report of
what he's accused of doing.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
It's bad.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Now is the NFL going to respond to this? Are
the Browns going to do anything.
Speaker 9 (39:22):
They?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
You know, that's the part of this. You still have
to cover the football aspect. Turn the other cheek. No,
I'm not the Cleveland Brown's ownership. Where I go, Okay,
have you a harassed anybody in a while?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Okay, here's a contract? Oh no, we're not doing that.
Uh Steven in San Antonio? Hi Steven, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Hey guys?
Speaker 7 (39:48):
I just wanted to help you out a little bit.
Speaker 13 (39:50):
Y'all keep using the word uh dour, but where you're
you should actually be pronounced door. The gloomy appearance would
the door, and instead you're pronouncing dow dowur like a dowry,
like a bride gives her her husband.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Wait, I've always heard dower d o u r is
dour like it's a dour day outside it's rainy and
not door.
Speaker 13 (40:14):
Yeah, check out the pronunciation.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Pronunciation is the door its door like.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
D o o r?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
All right, Pauline, let me check on that all over it? Okay,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
It'd be tough if we start out the power in
the doer and then we find out that power would
be like fritzy.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
This perfectly dower and door door. That's the problem. How
can you guys not hear this? Fork cough.
Speaker 9 (40:41):
I've always heard the word dour, but maybe that's very's.
Speaker 12 (40:44):
Got to pay more attention.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Thank you obvious, Yes, of course do all right? Door door?
Never heard that d o w e r. But it's
d o you are. Yeah, it's d o you are.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Because if I take out the D and I just
have oh you are, it's our. I put the D
on there, it's our dour whatever that word stinks. No, wait, we.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Can't have power dour if we just mispronounced dour. Why
can't we just make up the word dowurd? How now
we use sour door? Okay, we'll do sour do.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
I'm going to save it or I'm gonna go over this.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Now, let's save it. We don't have enough time.
Speaker 9 (41:30):
And how is this word pronounced dour or door?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
I've never heard door?
Speaker 12 (41:35):
Just a poor rankings with doings.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
We could keep doore big Mike Gollick.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
A little later on, Jimmy Fallon's going to stop buying
a little bit as well. One hour in the Books,
two more to go on this Wednesday Dan Patrick Show,