September 2, 2026 • 41 mins
Dan is confident the Los Angeles Angels will see some improvement now that they are being sold to Stan Kroenke. And DP weighs in on Tony Romo’s statement attempting to take responsibility for his OWI arrest and discusses the perils of opioid use.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's hour one on this Wednesday, Dan and the Danettes,
Dan Patrick Show. Fritzie is back. That's two consecutive shows
after life. Changing, threatening surgery. Another round of applause.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Man, oh, man.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I'm like Ripken-esque here.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You are. Yeah, Billy Ripken, not Cal Ripken. It is
a Pizza Wednesday, in case you're wondering. We have three
pies that are ready to come out of the oven
later today. Dylan, would you tell us what you're whipping
up here?
Speaker 5 (00:34):
We have a hot Italian sausage pizza, Dan.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
New Haven-style tomato pie. Your fave. Yep. And then Todd's
World Famous Classic Cheese Pizza.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
We're going to keep rolling that third one out.
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(01:57):
Operator Tyler sitting by. You'll take your calls today, one
week until the NFL opener down under, depending on your
time zone there. That's got to be weird when you travel.
And whenever I've traveled abroad, I try to plow through
the first day. Don't take that nap. You take that nap.
(02:20):
You're still discombobulated. Plow through the best you can. I
don't know how these guys from the West Coast are
going to do in Australia. I don't think they're going
to be plowing through this. And I think you've got
the Niners who are leaving today. I think the Rams
are leaving over the weekend here. I guess there's a
(02:40):
couple of things. Aaron Donald going to make the trip. Now,
he might make the trip. I can't imagine he's going
to be playing. Can't imagine. Now, maybe you want him
for a home opener, but. I would probably try to
guard against that. It's nice to have him out there.
I don't need to have him out there for the
home opener. I want him there for January and February.
(03:02):
Because that's what this season is all about. It's Super
Bowl or bust for the Rams. They know it. The
pressure is there. Now you have people speculating, could they
go undefeated? I'm like, wow, where did that come from?
The over-under, I think, for the Rams might be 11.5.
You're in a tough division. And Could they win 12,
(03:23):
13 games? Of course they can. But I would probably
pump the brakes on that one quickly of can they
go undefeated? I guess, yes. Everybody can go undefeated. But, well,
the Cardinals can't. And the Dolphins can't. In fact, I
don't think anybody is going undefeated. But that's how high
the expectation level is for the Rams. College football, starting tomorrow,
(03:48):
five days of college football. You only have one game.
where you have a matchup of two teams in the
top 25 and it'll be Louisville 24th in the country
at Ole Miss. I want Ole Miss to keep winning.
I'd love to see LSU win. I'm not rooting for
Lane Kiffin and I'm not rooting against Dabo Sweeney, but
(04:10):
I want the story of LSU, Ole Miss, Lane going
back to Ole Miss and have them be undefeated there. But, uh, Oh,
in case you're wondering, USC plays on Friday night against
Fresno State, and Fresno State getting 22.5 against the 15th-ranked Trojans.
(04:31):
And if you're watching on Peacock, yes, two of my
kids went to USC. This is all I got. I
got a hoodie, a USC hoodie. Actually, when I first
went there, and this is with my son, and We
were in the athletic department because I was saying hello
to Pat Hayden, who had been a friend. And I'm
with my wife. And Lane Kiffin walked in. Lane Kiffin's
(04:53):
the head coach. And so he comes in, he says hello,
shakes hands, and then he walks out. And my wife goes,
who is that? And I said, that's the coach.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
She goes, I thought it was a student.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I said, no, that's the head coach. And so whenever
she hears the name Lane Kiffin, she goes, is he
still coaching? I said, oh yeah, very much. He's still coaching.
She goes, I thought he was a student. He walked
in that day. I said, yeah, yeah. He had unceremonious departure.
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She goes, what do you mean? I go, he got
fired on the tarmac. And she goes, how do you
get fired on the tarmac? I said, well, they had
a bad loss and he came home and I think
he had to get a ride from the airport that
they kind of, everybody got off the plane and went
into a terminal and then he got fired there. And
she goes, so it wasn't the tarmac. I said, technically
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not the tarmac, but you know, close proximity to the tarmac.
So Lane was 35 back then when my wife met
him and just like, man, so you knew a student.
I go, no, he's the head coach of what? The
football team.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
All right. We'll come up with a poll question. 877-3DP-SHOW.
Email address dp at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow. Joey McGuire,
Texas Tech head coach, took a shot at USC's attendance.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Not to take any shots because I have a lot
of respect for, you know, USC and Lincoln Raleigh.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
But, man, it's really awesome to.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Be playing in Lubbock, Texas, knowing we're going to be
playing in front of 60,000.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And it's going to be warm.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
It's going to be every bit as warm as it
was Saturday.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
The great thing is we've got some really tough people
at West Texas that love their football, and they're going
to show up. And no matter what the weather's like,
there's not going to be any excuse of why they're
not going to be here for us.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
All right, Joey. 60,000 is a bad attendance for USC,
just letting you know there, Joey. Everybody taking their shots
at USC.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Yeah, Paul. But coach started with not to take a shot,
so it can't be a shot.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Whenever you preface it, that means you are taking a shot.
No offense, but yes, Dylan.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I feel like USC is going to be locked in
on what that attendance total for the Texas Tech game
ends up being. If it comes in a hair under 60,000.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh, they're going to pounce on Joey McGuire here. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
Comedian Paul Reiser once said, this is just what I'm saying,
and I'm just saying. You think you can get away
with anything by putting the word just in there? You're
not going to offend anybody.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Paul Reiser makes an appearance here.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I'm just saying. He was pretty funny.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
All right.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
In 1984, yes.
Speaker 9 (07:45):
Very much so.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Boy, if that Marine lair comes in, who knows what
that's going to do to the USC attendance. The Marine lair. Dylan,
poll question, first hour. What are we going to go with?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Well, we have two options of the same question, Dan.
We talked about this earlier. Who do you want to
see win more this weekend? Todd wants it to be
who would you rather see lose this weekend? I'll defer
to you on the wording.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I know, but I told him, how about we spin
something positive for something in your life, okay?
Speaker 8 (08:17):
I agree with that, but in this particular instance, there
are a lot of people that aren't exactly fans of
either one of those coaches.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So in this instance, I think you have to skew negative.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, you have to root for one.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
You have to?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yes, because there's no question if you don't wait. Do
you understand?
Speaker 8 (08:34):
I think it's more interesting if there's two coaches that
are both not likable.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Which one is least likable?
Speaker 8 (08:39):
And that's why you say, if you're not a fan
of either team, who would you like to see lose
more on Saturday?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Davos, Winnie, or Lane Kiffin? Because in general, a lot
of people aren't big fans of those two coaches.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
And Grammar Boy, it would be less likable if it's
two people. Least would be multiple. Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So however you want to phrase that, who are you
rooting against? In the LSU-Clemson game? Is that what you want, Todd?
How do you want it? I had written it again.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Maybe it's not the right grammar.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
If you're not a fan of either team, who would
you like to see lose more on Saturday, Dabo Sweeney's
Clemson Tigers or Lane Kiffin's LSU Tigers?
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I want to see Lane Kiffin win because I want
to set up that matchup against Ole Miss. So I
guess that means I'm rooting against Dabo Sweeney more than
I am Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Sounds like that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I'm still a little confused. I've got to play that
in my head a few times.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
I can't imagine Monday morning if Dabo wins the LSU fallout.
Speaker 10 (09:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh, you're not going to have to wait until Monday.
It'll be Saturday. That's an interesting matchup. This is old school,
new school. When you think about Lane Kiffin's approach, it's
new school. He's open to anything, everything. Hey, I'll leave
during the playoffs. Hey, I'll bring guys back from the NFL.
I don't care. Dabo's has maintained that we don't need
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to take transfers, but I think they took four this year,
that he's kind of old school. So that matchup, I think,
is interesting between those two for a variety of reasons,
but you throw in where Dabo is and where Lane is. Yes, Dylan?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
We could throw in a follow-up poll, too. Which is
the real Death Valley, Clemson or LSU?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Who are the real Tigers?
Speaker 10 (10:27):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
That gets deeper.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
No, no, we're not going that deep today on that topic.
The Angels were sold yesterday, and Artie Moreno finally found
a buyer, Stan Kroenke, who adds to his portfolio... I
thought about this when it comes to ownership, and there's
community involved in this. You've got diehard, lifelong fans, your
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fan base. It's just another item in his portfolio, which
he has every right to do that, and he's done
extremely well with his teams. The one thing that I
would feel if I'm an Angel fan is, great. That
guy has done well. His teams win, whether it's hockey
or soccer or football or Now, St. Louis fans aside,
(11:21):
Stan Kroenke does a pretty good job. When he buys,
it feels like you got a championship. You at least
have hope for a championship. Now, this is a team
that hadn't made the playoffs in what, since 2015? You
got three playoff games for 2014, Paul?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
They've been in three playoff games since 2010.
Speaker 11 (11:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Maybe Mike Trout gets out. But it's not that Artie
Moreno didn't try. He just didn't do well when he tried.
You had Pujols. You had Shohei. Obviously with Mike Trout.
They had the guys, but they didn't have pitching that
went along with that. Rendon turned out to be a bust.
(12:09):
Who was the former.
Who was the Josh Hamilton, Josh Hamilton. He, you know,
came in, had issues, but they've had stars. It just
didn't work. And you're trying to compete with the Dodgers.
And now you're not even in the rear view mirror.
Can you trade Mike Trout? He's 35. What are you
(12:31):
going to get in return? Does he want to go
back to Philadelphia? You know, but you have a fresh
start here. And I think if Stan Kroenke is, is
going to apply the same touches he has with his
other teams, Arsenal, the Avalanche, the Nuggets, the Rams.
Speaker 10 (12:49):
Great.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But Artie Moreno has been trying to sell, I think, 21, 22,
he was trying to. And they went for almost, what,
$ 4 billion. And I was kind of surprised. $ 4 billion? Okay.
In Los Angeles-ish?
Speaker 9 (13:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But I think Stan Kroenke buying? is a positive sign.
We know what they had under Artie, and can it
be much worse? And I don't think so. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
Yeah, to Paulie's point about the playoff drought, yeah, the
Angels haven't been there since 2014. The Pirates, they got
there in 2015, and the Rockies got to the playoffs
in 2018. So teams that aren't spending money are getting
to the playoffs easier than the Angels are. With Otani
and Trout in the same lineup... Yeah, but what did
we say when, you know, trade Ohtani? And I've said
(13:43):
this for years, trade Mike Trout. Like, just, you know,
let's go down to the, you know, the studs here. Let's,
you know, start and build a new house here.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It is surprising, just the fact that this year as well,
the Padres sold for $ 3. 9 billion, a little bit less
than the Angels. The Padres for $ 3. 9 billion sounds far
more promising than... the angels do in terms of likelihood
to be in the mix at some point in the
near future?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Uh, Cronky's teams, Rams have won in, uh, 2000 and
2022 nuggets, 2023, Arsenal, 2026, um, avalanche. Oh, one in 2022,
Colorado rap, uh, Rapids, 2010. The angels haven't had a
winning record since 2015. I think it's a good situation here.
And I think, uh, If I'm an Angels fan, you
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got a fresh start. And then as a sports fan,
going into a season, actually having hope. And maybe that
happens here soon with Stan Kroenke. Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
You forgot to mention the two National Lacrosse League Cup
titles he won with the Colorado Mammoth as well.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's your fault.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
That is my fault.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, you should have been reminding me of that. He's
a winner. All right, we'll settle on a poll question.
And your phone call is always welcome. 877-3DP-SHOW. Ryan Leaf,
he's a Pac-12 lead analyst, will join. How many teams
are in the Pac-12 now?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
By definition, it should be 12, but we're checking.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, I don't think there's 12. Robert Griffin Jr., III,
Heisman winner, will join us a little bit later on
as well. Tony Romo issues his statement. I'll have a
statement about his statement later. Coming up, we're back after
this Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 12 (16:05):
Again, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Going to read the entire Tony Romo statement, but there's
a couple of things that stood out. He talked about
playing in the NFL. He talked about injuries. He talked
about back surgeries. He talked about dependence on pain medicine
and has had a hard time to get off those meds.
(16:36):
He said, look, I've got three young sons, and I've
taught them when you fall short, you stand up, you
take full responsibility. He said that the path requires honesty.
He says none of this is an excuse. These are
my failures, and I take responsibility. And he talked about
the past month. He says that his attention is being
(16:59):
turned to health, family, and in time, I return to
CBS News. I kindly ask for privacy during this period.
Says that he's grateful with a team of doctors, his
family and friends, the NFL community. This month's been difficult,
also personally significant. It's required me to confront and own
(17:20):
my mistakes fully to the Lord, to myself, to my family,
and now the public. The point that I want to
make with this is I think it's easy to get
rid of Tony Romo if you're CBS. Almost we have
an excuse now. We overpaid for him. And now we
have an opportunity to move on with J.J.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I hope Tony gets another chance. Maybe this is a
gap year where he sits out and focuses on what's
really important. And if these warning signs had been there,
I've been around Tony only a couple of times, but.
I was not looking for anything, didn't notice anything, and
these are at golf events, but I hope he gets
(18:05):
the opportunity. He made a mistake. He made a big mistake. Thankfully,
nobody was hurt, but if you're going to use this
to get, if this is five years ago with Tony Romo,
I don't think CBS is getting rid of him because
of this, but it feels like You do have an opportunity,
(18:27):
probably something in his contract, a clause in there, that
you can get out from underneath this contract. He has
a few more years making $ 18 million a year. But
it seemed heartfelt with the statement, and hopefully he gets
the help that he needs. More importantly, get the help
you need. This isn't about him getting his job back.
(18:48):
He's got enough money. This is about making sure you
get your life back. That's the important part. Tiger Woods
issued a statement. His driver's license has been suspended for
five years. He had a plea deal in his DUI case. Now,
he pleaded no contest to a reduced charge of reckless
(19:10):
driving and refusal to submit to a lawful test. This
was in Florida. As part of the agreement, He'll pay
$ 1, 500 in fines, and it's a careless driving violation. So
it's not reckless. It's careless. Now, I don't know the
(19:31):
difference in that. If you're careless, are you reckless? If
you're reckless, are you careless? And maybe that's minutiae and
you don't care. But I was just curious, once again,
He could have been killed. Somebody else could have been
killed in this situation. The suspicion of DUI refusal to submit.
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I mean, that's where you got to be honest with
yourself because you can have somebody else drive you and
you could still be under the influence. And that would
be my biggest concern with Tiger moving forward. He's not
going to be playing competitive golf. Now you have to
really look at yourself and say, who am I going
to be the rest of my life? Father of two kids.
(20:14):
You got a girlfriend here. And refusal to submit. You
don't have to be in law enforcement to look at
Tiger in that car, that police car, and realize that
is somebody who needs help in more ways than one.
Not just driving, but, you know, and he's had a
lot of surgeries. And people use this excuse. I understand it.
(20:38):
Having had many, many surgeries, you can get what you want.
Like I got so much Percocet and I was like,
I got to get rid of this. It was overwhelming
the number of pills that you could get. And it's
so easy to take one of those and go, and
I feel better. You can have one in your pocket
(21:00):
or a couple in your pocket. And then you become
dependent on that. And I'm not proud to say this,
but I'll say this to let you know that it
can happen to anybody. I played golf on my 60th
birthday and I wasn't going to. I had friends who
came to Pebble Beach and I was in so much
pain from this autoimmune disease that I had. I took
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Vicodin that day. I played golf on Vicodin the entire week.
I had never taken Vicodin. I took Vicodin once for
a knee surgery. And a friend of mine said, you
got to play golf. You invited everybody for your birthday.
And I said, I can't physically play. I got a Vicodin,
(21:47):
took a Vicodin on the front nine. I took a
Vicodin at the turn and played the back nine with Vicodin.
So two Vicodin in the span of around four or
five hours. And I did that the next day, the
next day, the next day. The last day, I did
not do it. But it got rid of my pain.
(22:11):
I get it. I haven't taken a Vicodin since then.
That's 10 years ago. You get dependent on it. It
becomes your routine. And I'm sure with Tiger with all
of his surgeries, Tony Romo with his surgeries, you self-medicate.
I did that for a couple of years. I could
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not get rid of this pain. I self-medicated with alcohol.
But not Vicodin or anything like that. Not even marijuana.
I just, you get into a routine. So I'm sympathetic
to this with Tony. I mean, if you watch that
video and you watch Tiger's video, that's where it really
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hits you of they are in a different, different state
of mind. And Tiger was not there. And then you're
trying to call the president. And then you're in the
police car. And you could just tell where he's like,
what am I doing? How did I get here? And
Tony Romo, probably, I hope he watches that video. I
(23:16):
hope he watches that video to remind himself of how
he got to that point. But getting help is what
Tiger needs. Tony Romo needs help as well. Not a job.
They need help. And the biggest help you can get
is from your family, who will then be your guardrails.
(23:36):
That's the most important thing. You have a hard conversation,
as I did with my wife. And she said, what
are you doing? I said, I can't escape this. And
she said, we'll find another way. Tony Romo is escaping something,
but he's not. You're just hiding something. Tiger, you're not escaping.
(23:58):
You're hiding something. I think a lot of times those
who do drugs or drink, we think we're escaping something.
You're just trying to hide something. So Tony Romo, maybe
it's a gap year. Maybe you get a chance. You
can still go back to being a really good analyst.
My issue with Tony was I didn't think he did
his homework. And knowing two people at CBS who worked
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with him, they wanted him to take the information. They
were hoping that he would use this information. And I
think that there was frustration there at CBS that he
wasn't up to the level that Jim Nance was, not
any longer. Now J.J. Watt is there, and I can't
imagine that they're going to allow Tony to come back
and get that job. Tiger, I don't know what his
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golf future is. I'm not concerned about his golf future.
I'm concerned about Tiger. He gave us so much. That's
where you hope that people can support him. Because he
does need that. Sometimes you think that guy's got everything
and they don't. And Tiger's one of those, you know,
(25:05):
go down the list. Celebrities where you go, man, they
got it all until you realize they don't. Their problems
are just more expensive problems.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Enough with the preaching. We'll get to phone calls coming up. 877-3DP-SHOW.
Email address dp at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow. Ryan Leaf,
who's had his issues with substance abuse, he'll join us
coming up next hour. And we were going to just
talk college football or football in general, but, I mean,
(25:38):
we talked to him from his jail cell. He was
breaking into houses. And you know what? He fooled me.
He did. He fooled me. The Indianapolis Super Bowl. He
had me fooled.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
He did.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And when Paulie would say, hey, we should have Ryan
Leaf on. And I go, no. Believe him. And then
I'm thinking, man, I'm selfish here. Yes, he was trying
to disguise this or hide this from us. But that's what,
you know, people who are alcoholics or drug addicts do.
My father did this for years where he would hide things.
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But we saw it. I just didn't see it with Ryan.
And look, he's made a great comeback. He's got a
great wife, family, opportunity. And he can speak to this.
He's got to go day by day. And even that,
I say it's hour by hour. Because all it takes
is one moment. You're with somebody. Somebody dies. has a cigarette,
(26:48):
you smell the cigarette, all of a sudden you want
to drink. I mean, this is how these things happen.
I think we look at them in a vacuum. But
Ryan will join us coming up next hour. And then
final hour of the program, we'll talk to RG3, the
Heisman Trophy winner and analyst for Fox Sports. Okay, let's
(27:09):
settle on a poll question. Sorry to get heavy early
in the morning here, but you know what? These things
hit me. They hit me. Yeah, still.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Do you want to recap or do you want to
throw a new one in the mix?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, how about you recap here? I kind of lost
sight of where we were in the show. But, you know,
go ahead.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Well, if you're not a fan of either team, who
would you rather see lose on Saturday per Todd Fritz?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Dabo Swinney's Tigers or Lane Kiffin's Tigers? 70% want to
see Lane Kiffin's Tigers lose.
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
For the story, and I'm all in for the story.
I want LSU to win. And I don't have anything
against Dabo. I think he needs to come out of
his cave and realize if you want to coach, be
fair to the fans there at Clemson. Instead of saying,
you know, I do it differently, I get it. But
if you're going to do it differently, then maybe do
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it differently some other place. Because the expectation level should
be really high at Clemson. I'm not saying you go
full Lane Kiffin. But I think you've got to embrace Clemson.
the environment, whether you like it or not. If you
don't like it, then don't coach. That's what Saban did.
Saban didn't want to deal with this anymore. And I
don't blame him. The number of coaches who decide, I'm
(28:28):
done with this. And it used to be you coached
until you couldn't coach until you died. These guys are
now looking at this and saying, do I want to
be chasing 18 year olds and they're going to be
negotiating million dollar deals with me? And who's on my
team and who left and who's coming in? And no, no.
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But if you're a head coach of a major program,
you got to embrace what is going on and maybe
not embrace. But at least be open to it, because
if you don't do it, somebody else will. Yeah, Paulie?
Speaker 7 (29:03):
If you go back to that run Dabo had going
back to 2015, 14-1, 14-1, 12-2, 15-0, 14-1. Since then,
it's been good.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Last year was 7-6.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Didn't they lose at home to Syracuse?
Speaker 11 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
I think it was bad weather. I remember tuning in.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Going, Clemson is going to lose at home to Syracuse.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
It was bad weather for both teams, though.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I know. No, it was only bad for Clemson when
they took the field. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
But if there's one coach in college football in America
that's on scholarship, it should be double swing.
Speaker 10 (29:38):
Am I right?
Speaker 9 (29:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Know what the temperature is down there I.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
Mean they're not Alabama they're not USC they're not Michigan
they're not Ohio State what was Clemson the previous 10
years before double Sweeney got there they were on par
with Alabama for about a four-year.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Stretch okay but how long are you on scholarship if
good okay You got three national titles. Okay, so you're
fine with no matter what happens to them? At Clemson, yes.
Seven and six, you're okay?
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Maybe eight and four.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Okay, but they went seven and six.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Okay, that's not acceptable.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Okay, but how many more of those are acceptable until
they're not?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
At Clemson?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
What if he has three seasons where he wins eight games,
eight games, seven games? You okay? You're living off those
national titles?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
At Clemson, yes.
Speaker 13 (30:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
There will not be a third season of 7-6. There
might be a second season. They don't do loyalty down south.
I look at Clemson as an SEC team that happens
to be in the ACC. He set his own bar high.
They will not stand for this for too much longer.
Loyalty cannot be everlasting.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Here's Dabo Sweeney, the Clemson head coach on pro players
going back to college.
Speaker 14 (30:55):
Rarely am I at a loss for words, but Chapel Womack,
kind of a loss of words. I would just say
it's kind of embarrassing that that's where we are. I
don't blame the kids. and people trying to take advantage
of the system, I just think it's embarrassing where we
are with college football. And we've been there for a while,
so I just keep my energy and my focus on
(31:16):
and my energy on the things that I control and
the things that matter, and that's these kids here and
our team. But, you know, all that outside stuff, I mean,
we just kind of, no pun intended, we just stay
in our lane, you know, here at Clemson.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Now, I don't know if that's a shot at Lane Kiffin,
because that's what I thought when he said stay in
our lane. No pun intended. And then you throw in
Lane's name. Yeah, I agree with him. Remember when we
would talk about coaches, we'd talk about leaders, leading men,
you know, that's not the case. Now, I'm sure there
(31:50):
are instances where there are truly great people. They're trying
to survive. They're trying to make money. They're trying to
be successful. They're going to go to their next job
and then next job. You're not embedded in a community
the way you once were. And I know, get off
my lawn. I get it. But I'm sorry, those are
the standards I still hold a coach to. When I
(32:13):
see my coaches, if I go back home, they're still
coached to me. They will always be coached to me.
But that's the ultimate respect I can give you is
when I say, hi, coach. Let me take a break.
Get down off my soapbox here.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Yeah, relax.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Can somebody help me?
Speaker 7 (32:36):
No, I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
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Play it and play it.
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Check this out.
Speaker 9 (33:02):
The 2-1.
Speaker 10 (33:02):
A swing.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Ground ball. Left side.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Sliding at third.
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Basabe has it. Jumps to his feet.
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Speaker 9 (33:10):
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Speaker 2 (33:14):
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syracuse leads us off this morning good morning chris.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Hey, thank you, Dan.
Speaker 13 (33:48):
Hey, I was going to comment on Arnie Moreno, but
I feel pretty good about myself. You covered everything I
was going to say right down to Josh Hamilton, so
I'm going to weigh in on the poll and a
question for you. On the poll, I would like to
see Dabble lose for one reason. I wonder if LSU
does blow Clemson out, if Dabble will be able to
control himself in the post-game press conference from taking a
(34:08):
shot at LSU and Lane Kiffin for how they run
their program. especially if some reporter asked Dabo a question,
which would lead him right to it, which I'm sure
may happen. And Dan, I don't know if I'm remembering right,
but didn't Rich Eisen, when your son Jack first got
to USC, have him for dinner a few times and
kind of look out for him?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yes, Rich and his wife Susie, they kind of looked
out for my son when he went to USC and
my daughter. And, uh, Therefore, my daughter made it very
clear that it was important to invite Rich and Susie
to her wedding. But yes, they were there kind of
as godparents to whenever my son would want a meal,
(34:47):
he'd just drive over to the Isons and walk in
and say to Susie, hey, what's for dinner? And I went,
I said, you know, maybe call the Isons, you know,
give him a heads up that you're stopping by. But
he did that while he was at USC. And so
did my daughter. Ryan in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Hi, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
What do you have for me?
Speaker 11 (35:10):
Hey, I got a limerick for Todd's comeback and making
it on the show yesterday and today.
Speaker 9 (35:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Right.
Speaker 11 (35:19):
We expected Todd to whine like a pup. Instead, he
brought the energy of a coffee cup. So though we
bust his chops, we must give him props. Or we
won't even stir if he was going to show up.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
It started out so positive. He did. He leaned on
the lisp.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Yeah, slushy-ass limerick last line. He just wrapped it up nicely.
He wasn't even sure if he should have shown up.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Okay. Now, Todd just sent me a limerick. What's the
limerick about?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I just quickly put a little angels limerick together on
Stan Kroenke buying the angels.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
What's happened to the angels?
Speaker 8 (36:01):
A crime.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
New ownership, it's about time.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Let's give Kroenke a hand, not just Disneyland, some relevance
now in Anaheim.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
All right.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Thank you. Thank you, Todd. Did you run this by Paulie?
Speaker 8 (36:13):
I didn't because I just want them to hear it
for the first time. But I know he likes to
check everything ahead of time just to protect me mainly
in case I say something inappropriate. But I like to
get everybody's fresh reaction.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Thank you for making it a great experience for me
and the listeners.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
JJ in Florida. Good morning, JJ. What do you have
for me?
Speaker 10 (36:32):
Good morning, Dan. If I had been asked, God, back
in the audience network days, which one of the four
original Danettes would be with you towards the very end,
I would not have picked Fritzie. But at this point,
with Polly only being a part-timer, Fritzie is the longest-serving, longest-tenured,
(36:55):
full-time Danette. And I wanted to chime in on yesterday's
conversation about punk rock.
Speaker 13 (36:59):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
I would not argue with you that Helter Skelter is
a punk rock song.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I believe it is.
Speaker 10 (37:04):
But the Kinks, You Really Got Me, came out in,
I believe, 64. And I'll forgive you for not getting
that one, but My Generation by The Who and those
sloppy drums by Mooney, 1965. That, I think, precedes The Beatles.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Well, I think The Beatles came up with Helter Skelter,
and this is just off memory, because they had gotten
word that The Who were going to come out with
something really loud. And I don't know if it was
Lennon or McCartney who said, you know what? Why don't
we jump the gun? And they came out with Helter Skelter.
And Helter Skelter was, what, 1968? And if you want
(37:43):
to put the kinks in there for punk, I'm fine
with that. I, just me, and, you know, the who
with my generation, I wouldn't think it was punk. But
if it is your interpretation, that's fine. Helter Skelter was
something that was different. And the fact that it came
from the Beatles, a boy band, made it stand out
(38:05):
even more. You know, Dave and Ray Davies of the Kinks,
they were wonderful. The Who, one of my favorite bands
as well. But for me, Helter Skelter was maybe the
door opening to what punk was going to sound like
or could sound like. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
Paul McCartney did a number of interviews and said they
read a review of I Can See for Miles by
The Who. They said it was loud and raunchy, and
they went right in the studio and said, let's top it.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
And they did. Like, when you hear Helter Skelter, that's
unlike anything that we had heard back then. Yes, Dylan?
Speaker 5 (38:41):
To me, I mean, look, I could see where the
punk origin thing comes from. To me, that's more metal
origin than punk, what punk ended up becoming, particularly in England.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, punk wasn't metal?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
No.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Like, heavy metal?
Speaker 11 (38:57):
No.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Well, that's loud music. Punk is loud music, correct?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Not necessarily.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Maybe similar tone. But look, you're not going to embrace
the Beatles with Helter Skelter. You got your mind on,
you know, MC5 or the Stooges or The Clash or whoever.
That's fine. But to me, the Beatles did something that
we had not heard before, and it was played on radio.
You know, Stooges didn't get a lot of airplay or MC5.
(39:31):
The Clash did. But, you know, here's the Beatles doing it.
And it felt like, God, the Beatles are doing it.
You're allowed to do it. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
It does feel like you're both arguing the same point
because punk music and, you know, heavy metal both felt
like kind of a middle finger at the time. Like,
let's do something others aren't doing, not the pop rock.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, you know, the Stones had heavy metal and the
Who before the Beatles did. It was just what the
Beatles did with that song, in my opinion. That's all
my opinion. It felt like that was ushering in a
sound that we had not heard, and maybe that was
the preview to what punk rock was going to sound like.
You okay with that, Dylan?
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yeah, I think we actually we do agree more than
I think people think. We also disagree a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, we do. We disagree more than what people think.
I'm going to be in the confessional coming up here
at the 30 seconds. Ryan Leaf is in the building.
He'll join us coming up in a little bit. Talk
some college football with him. Phone calls. Update the poll
results as well. It's a pizza Wednesday. Todd is here.
(40:46):
Bandage it all. Dylan in the back row. Marvin, Paulie
up front. Yours truly. One hour in the books on
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's hour one on this Wednesday, Dan and the Danettes,
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
Man, oh, man.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I'm like Ripken-esque here.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You are. Yeah, Billy Ripken, not Cal Ripken. It is
a Pizza Wednesday, in case you're wondering. We have three
pies that are ready to come out of the oven
later today. Dylan, would you tell us what you're whipping
up here?
Speaker 5 (00:34):
We have a hot Italian sausage pizza, Dan.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Mm-hmm.
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New Haven-style tomato pie. Your fave. Yep. And then Todd's
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We're going to keep rolling that third one out.
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Operator Tyler sitting by. You'll take your calls today, one
week until the NFL opener down under, depending on your
time zone there. That's got to be weird when you travel.
And whenever I've traveled abroad, I try to plow through
the first day. Don't take that nap. You take that nap.
(02:20):
You're still discombobulated. Plow through the best you can. I
don't know how these guys from the West Coast are
going to do in Australia. I don't think they're going
to be plowing through this. And I think you've got
the Niners who are leaving today. I think the Rams
are leaving over the weekend here. I guess there's a
(02:40):
couple of things. Aaron Donald going to make the trip. Now,
he might make the trip. I can't imagine he's going
to be playing. Can't imagine. Now, maybe you want him
for a home opener, but. I would probably try to
guard against that. It's nice to have him out there.
I don't need to have him out there for the
home opener. I want him there for January and February.
(03:02):
Because that's what this season is all about. It's Super
Bowl or bust for the Rams. They know it. The
pressure is there. Now you have people speculating, could they
go undefeated? I'm like, wow, where did that come from?
The over-under, I think, for the Rams might be 11.5.
You're in a tough division. And Could they win 12,
(03:23):
13 games? Of course they can. But I would probably
pump the brakes on that one quickly of can they
go undefeated? I guess, yes. Everybody can go undefeated. But, well,
the Cardinals can't. And the Dolphins can't. In fact, I
don't think anybody is going undefeated. But that's how high
the expectation level is for the Rams. College football, starting tomorrow,
(03:48):
five days of college football. You only have one game.
where you have a matchup of two teams in the
top 25 and it'll be Louisville 24th in the country
at Ole Miss. I want Ole Miss to keep winning.
I'd love to see LSU win. I'm not rooting for
Lane Kiffin and I'm not rooting against Dabo Sweeney, but
(04:10):
I want the story of LSU, Ole Miss, Lane going
back to Ole Miss and have them be undefeated there. But, uh, Oh,
in case you're wondering, USC plays on Friday night against
Fresno State, and Fresno State getting 22.5 against the 15th-ranked Trojans.
(04:31):
And if you're watching on Peacock, yes, two of my
kids went to USC. This is all I got. I
got a hoodie, a USC hoodie. Actually, when I first
went there, and this is with my son, and We
were in the athletic department because I was saying hello
to Pat Hayden, who had been a friend. And I'm
with my wife. And Lane Kiffin walked in. Lane Kiffin's
(04:53):
the head coach. And so he comes in, he says hello,
shakes hands, and then he walks out. And my wife goes,
who is that? And I said, that's the coach.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
She goes, I thought it was a student.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I said, no, that's the head coach. And so whenever
she hears the name Lane Kiffin, she goes, is he
still coaching? I said, oh yeah, very much. He's still coaching.
She goes, I thought he was a student. He walked
in that day. I said, yeah, yeah. He had unceremonious departure.
(05:26):
She goes, what do you mean? I go, he got
fired on the tarmac. And she goes, how do you
get fired on the tarmac? I said, well, they had
a bad loss and he came home and I think
he had to get a ride from the airport that
they kind of, everybody got off the plane and went
into a terminal and then he got fired there. And
she goes, so it wasn't the tarmac. I said, technically
(05:49):
not the tarmac, but you know, close proximity to the tarmac.
So Lane was 35 back then when my wife met
him and just like, man, so you knew a student.
I go, no, he's the head coach of what? The
football team.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
All right. We'll come up with a poll question. 877-3DP-SHOW.
Email address dp at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow. Joey McGuire,
Texas Tech head coach, took a shot at USC's attendance.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Not to take any shots because I have a lot
of respect for, you know, USC and Lincoln Raleigh.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
But, man, it's really awesome to.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Be playing in Lubbock, Texas, knowing we're going to be
playing in front of 60,000.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And it's going to be warm.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
It's going to be every bit as warm as it
was Saturday.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
The great thing is we've got some really tough people
at West Texas that love their football, and they're going
to show up. And no matter what the weather's like,
there's not going to be any excuse of why they're
not going to be here for us.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
All right, Joey. 60,000 is a bad attendance for USC,
just letting you know there, Joey. Everybody taking their shots
at USC.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Yeah, Paul. But coach started with not to take a shot,
so it can't be a shot.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Whenever you preface it, that means you are taking a shot.
No offense, but yes, Dylan.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I feel like USC is going to be locked in
on what that attendance total for the Texas Tech game
ends up being. If it comes in a hair under 60,000.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh, they're going to pounce on Joey McGuire here. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
Comedian Paul Reiser once said, this is just what I'm saying,
and I'm just saying. You think you can get away
with anything by putting the word just in there? You're
not going to offend anybody.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Paul Reiser makes an appearance here.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I'm just saying. He was pretty funny.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
All right.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
In 1984, yes.
Speaker 9 (07:45):
Very much so.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Boy, if that Marine lair comes in, who knows what
that's going to do to the USC attendance. The Marine lair. Dylan,
poll question, first hour. What are we going to go with?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Well, we have two options of the same question, Dan.
We talked about this earlier. Who do you want to
see win more this weekend? Todd wants it to be
who would you rather see lose this weekend? I'll defer
to you on the wording.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I know, but I told him, how about we spin
something positive for something in your life, okay?
Speaker 8 (08:17):
I agree with that, but in this particular instance, there
are a lot of people that aren't exactly fans of
either one of those coaches.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So in this instance, I think you have to skew negative.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, you have to root for one.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
You have to?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yes, because there's no question if you don't wait. Do
you understand?
Speaker 8 (08:34):
I think it's more interesting if there's two coaches that
are both not likable.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Which one is least likable?
Speaker 8 (08:39):
And that's why you say, if you're not a fan
of either team, who would you like to see lose
more on Saturday?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Davos, Winnie, or Lane Kiffin? Because in general, a lot
of people aren't big fans of those two coaches.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
And Grammar Boy, it would be less likable if it's
two people. Least would be multiple. Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So however you want to phrase that, who are you
rooting against? In the LSU-Clemson game? Is that what you want, Todd?
How do you want it? I had written it again.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Maybe it's not the right grammar.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
If you're not a fan of either team, who would
you like to see lose more on Saturday, Dabo Sweeney's
Clemson Tigers or Lane Kiffin's LSU Tigers?
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I want to see Lane Kiffin win because I want
to set up that matchup against Ole Miss. So I
guess that means I'm rooting against Dabo Sweeney more than
I am Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Sounds like that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I'm still a little confused. I've got to play that
in my head a few times.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
I can't imagine Monday morning if Dabo wins the LSU fallout.
Speaker 10 (09:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh, you're not going to have to wait until Monday.
It'll be Saturday. That's an interesting matchup. This is old school,
new school. When you think about Lane Kiffin's approach, it's
new school. He's open to anything, everything. Hey, I'll leave
during the playoffs. Hey, I'll bring guys back from the NFL.
I don't care. Dabo's has maintained that we don't need
(10:02):
to take transfers, but I think they took four this year,
that he's kind of old school. So that matchup, I think,
is interesting between those two for a variety of reasons,
but you throw in where Dabo is and where Lane is. Yes, Dylan?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
We could throw in a follow-up poll, too. Which is
the real Death Valley, Clemson or LSU?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Who are the real Tigers?
Speaker 10 (10:27):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
That gets deeper.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
No, no, we're not going that deep today on that topic.
The Angels were sold yesterday, and Artie Moreno finally found
a buyer, Stan Kroenke, who adds to his portfolio... I
thought about this when it comes to ownership, and there's
community involved in this. You've got diehard, lifelong fans, your
(10:56):
fan base. It's just another item in his portfolio, which
he has every right to do that, and he's done
extremely well with his teams. The one thing that I
would feel if I'm an Angel fan is, great. That
guy has done well. His teams win, whether it's hockey
or soccer or football or Now, St. Louis fans aside,
(11:21):
Stan Kroenke does a pretty good job. When he buys,
it feels like you got a championship. You at least
have hope for a championship. Now, this is a team
that hadn't made the playoffs in what, since 2015? You
got three playoff games for 2014, Paul?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
They've been in three playoff games since 2010.
Speaker 11 (11:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Maybe Mike Trout gets out. But it's not that Artie
Moreno didn't try. He just didn't do well when he tried.
You had Pujols. You had Shohei. Obviously with Mike Trout.
They had the guys, but they didn't have pitching that
went along with that. Rendon turned out to be a bust.
(12:09):
Who was the former.
Who was the Josh Hamilton, Josh Hamilton. He, you know,
came in, had issues, but they've had stars. It just
didn't work. And you're trying to compete with the Dodgers.
And now you're not even in the rear view mirror.
Can you trade Mike Trout? He's 35. What are you
(12:31):
going to get in return? Does he want to go
back to Philadelphia? You know, but you have a fresh
start here. And I think if Stan Kroenke is, is
going to apply the same touches he has with his
other teams, Arsenal, the Avalanche, the Nuggets, the Rams.
Speaker 10 (12:49):
Great.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
But Artie Moreno has been trying to sell, I think, 21, 22,
he was trying to. And they went for almost, what,
$ 4 billion. And I was kind of surprised. $ 4 billion? Okay.
In Los Angeles-ish?
Speaker 9 (13:06):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But I think Stan Kroenke buying? is a positive sign.
We know what they had under Artie, and can it
be much worse? And I don't think so. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
Yeah, to Paulie's point about the playoff drought, yeah, the
Angels haven't been there since 2014. The Pirates, they got
there in 2015, and the Rockies got to the playoffs
in 2018. So teams that aren't spending money are getting
to the playoffs easier than the Angels are. With Otani
and Trout in the same lineup... Yeah, but what did
we say when, you know, trade Ohtani? And I've said
(13:43):
this for years, trade Mike Trout. Like, just, you know,
let's go down to the, you know, the studs here. Let's,
you know, start and build a new house here.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
It is surprising, just the fact that this year as well,
the Padres sold for $ 3. 9 billion, a little bit less
than the Angels. The Padres for $ 3. 9 billion sounds far
more promising than... the angels do in terms of likelihood
to be in the mix at some point in the
near future?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Uh, Cronky's teams, Rams have won in, uh, 2000 and
2022 nuggets, 2023, Arsenal, 2026, um, avalanche. Oh, one in 2022,
Colorado rap, uh, Rapids, 2010. The angels haven't had a
winning record since 2015. I think it's a good situation here.
And I think, uh, If I'm an Angels fan, you
(14:39):
got a fresh start. And then as a sports fan,
going into a season, actually having hope. And maybe that
happens here soon with Stan Kroenke. Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
You forgot to mention the two National Lacrosse League Cup
titles he won with the Colorado Mammoth as well.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That's your fault.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
That is my fault.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, you should have been reminding me of that. He's
a winner. All right, we'll settle on a poll question.
And your phone call is always welcome. 877-3DP-SHOW. Ryan Leaf,
he's a Pac-12 lead analyst, will join. How many teams
are in the Pac-12 now?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
By definition, it should be 12, but we're checking.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, I don't think there's 12. Robert Griffin Jr., III,
Heisman winner, will join us a little bit later on
as well. Tony Romo issues his statement. I'll have a
statement about his statement later. Coming up, we're back after
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Speaker 12 (16:05):
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Speaker 2 (16:13):
Going to read the entire Tony Romo statement, but there's
a couple of things that stood out. He talked about
playing in the NFL. He talked about injuries. He talked
about back surgeries. He talked about dependence on pain medicine
and has had a hard time to get off those meds.
(16:36):
He said, look, I've got three young sons, and I've
taught them when you fall short, you stand up, you
take full responsibility. He said that the path requires honesty.
He says none of this is an excuse. These are
my failures, and I take responsibility. And he talked about
the past month. He says that his attention is being
(16:59):
turned to health, family, and in time, I return to
CBS News. I kindly ask for privacy during this period.
Says that he's grateful with a team of doctors, his
family and friends, the NFL community. This month's been difficult,
also personally significant. It's required me to confront and own
(17:20):
my mistakes fully to the Lord, to myself, to my family,
and now the public. The point that I want to
make with this is I think it's easy to get
rid of Tony Romo if you're CBS. Almost we have
an excuse now. We overpaid for him. And now we
have an opportunity to move on with J.J.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Watt.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I hope Tony gets another chance. Maybe this is a
gap year where he sits out and focuses on what's
really important. And if these warning signs had been there,
I've been around Tony only a couple of times, but.
I was not looking for anything, didn't notice anything, and
these are at golf events, but I hope he gets
(18:05):
the opportunity. He made a mistake. He made a big mistake. Thankfully,
nobody was hurt, but if you're going to use this
to get, if this is five years ago with Tony Romo,
I don't think CBS is getting rid of him because
of this, but it feels like You do have an opportunity,
(18:27):
probably something in his contract, a clause in there, that
you can get out from underneath this contract. He has
a few more years making $ 18 million a year. But
it seemed heartfelt with the statement, and hopefully he gets
the help that he needs. More importantly, get the help
you need. This isn't about him getting his job back.
(18:48):
He's got enough money. This is about making sure you
get your life back. That's the important part. Tiger Woods
issued a statement. His driver's license has been suspended for
five years. He had a plea deal in his DUI case. Now,
he pleaded no contest to a reduced charge of reckless
(19:10):
driving and refusal to submit to a lawful test. This
was in Florida. As part of the agreement, He'll pay
$ 1, 500 in fines, and it's a careless driving violation. So
it's not reckless. It's careless. Now, I don't know the
(19:31):
difference in that. If you're careless, are you reckless? If
you're reckless, are you careless? And maybe that's minutiae and
you don't care. But I was just curious, once again,
He could have been killed. Somebody else could have been
killed in this situation. The suspicion of DUI refusal to submit.
(19:54):
I mean, that's where you got to be honest with
yourself because you can have somebody else drive you and
you could still be under the influence. And that would
be my biggest concern with Tiger moving forward. He's not
going to be playing competitive golf. Now you have to
really look at yourself and say, who am I going
to be the rest of my life? Father of two kids.
(20:14):
You got a girlfriend here. And refusal to submit. You
don't have to be in law enforcement to look at
Tiger in that car, that police car, and realize that
is somebody who needs help in more ways than one.
Not just driving, but, you know, and he's had a
lot of surgeries. And people use this excuse. I understand it.
(20:38):
Having had many, many surgeries, you can get what you want.
Like I got so much Percocet and I was like,
I got to get rid of this. It was overwhelming
the number of pills that you could get. And it's
so easy to take one of those and go, and
I feel better. You can have one in your pocket
(21:00):
or a couple in your pocket. And then you become
dependent on that. And I'm not proud to say this,
but I'll say this to let you know that it
can happen to anybody. I played golf on my 60th
birthday and I wasn't going to. I had friends who
came to Pebble Beach and I was in so much
pain from this autoimmune disease that I had. I took
(21:25):
Vicodin that day. I played golf on Vicodin the entire week.
I had never taken Vicodin. I took Vicodin once for
a knee surgery. And a friend of mine said, you
got to play golf. You invited everybody for your birthday.
And I said, I can't physically play. I got a Vicodin,
(21:47):
took a Vicodin on the front nine. I took a
Vicodin at the turn and played the back nine with Vicodin.
So two Vicodin in the span of around four or
five hours. And I did that the next day, the
next day, the next day. The last day, I did
not do it. But it got rid of my pain.
(22:11):
I get it. I haven't taken a Vicodin since then.
That's 10 years ago. You get dependent on it. It
becomes your routine. And I'm sure with Tiger with all
of his surgeries, Tony Romo with his surgeries, you self-medicate.
I did that for a couple of years. I could
(22:31):
not get rid of this pain. I self-medicated with alcohol.
But not Vicodin or anything like that. Not even marijuana.
I just, you get into a routine. So I'm sympathetic
to this with Tony. I mean, if you watch that
video and you watch Tiger's video, that's where it really
(22:52):
hits you of they are in a different, different state
of mind. And Tiger was not there. And then you're
trying to call the president. And then you're in the
police car. And you could just tell where he's like,
what am I doing? How did I get here? And
Tony Romo, probably, I hope he watches that video. I
(23:16):
hope he watches that video to remind himself of how
he got to that point. But getting help is what
Tiger needs. Tony Romo needs help as well. Not a job.
They need help. And the biggest help you can get
is from your family, who will then be your guardrails.
(23:36):
That's the most important thing. You have a hard conversation,
as I did with my wife. And she said, what
are you doing? I said, I can't escape this. And
she said, we'll find another way. Tony Romo is escaping something,
but he's not. You're just hiding something. Tiger, you're not escaping.
(23:58):
You're hiding something. I think a lot of times those
who do drugs or drink, we think we're escaping something.
You're just trying to hide something. So Tony Romo, maybe
it's a gap year. Maybe you get a chance. You
can still go back to being a really good analyst.
My issue with Tony was I didn't think he did
his homework. And knowing two people at CBS who worked
(24:21):
with him, they wanted him to take the information. They
were hoping that he would use this information. And I
think that there was frustration there at CBS that he
wasn't up to the level that Jim Nance was, not
any longer. Now J.J. Watt is there, and I can't
imagine that they're going to allow Tony to come back
and get that job. Tiger, I don't know what his
(24:43):
golf future is. I'm not concerned about his golf future.
I'm concerned about Tiger. He gave us so much. That's
where you hope that people can support him. Because he
does need that. Sometimes you think that guy's got everything
and they don't. And Tiger's one of those, you know,
(25:05):
go down the list. Celebrities where you go, man, they
got it all until you realize they don't. Their problems
are just more expensive problems.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Enough with the preaching. We'll get to phone calls coming up. 877-3DP-SHOW.
Email address dp at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow. Ryan Leaf,
who's had his issues with substance abuse, he'll join us
coming up next hour. And we were going to just
talk college football or football in general, but, I mean,
(25:38):
we talked to him from his jail cell. He was
breaking into houses. And you know what? He fooled me.
He did. He fooled me. The Indianapolis Super Bowl. He
had me fooled.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
He did.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And when Paulie would say, hey, we should have Ryan
Leaf on. And I go, no. Believe him. And then
I'm thinking, man, I'm selfish here. Yes, he was trying
to disguise this or hide this from us. But that's what,
you know, people who are alcoholics or drug addicts do.
My father did this for years where he would hide things.
(26:20):
But we saw it. I just didn't see it with Ryan.
And look, he's made a great comeback. He's got a
great wife, family, opportunity. And he can speak to this.
He's got to go day by day. And even that,
I say it's hour by hour. Because all it takes
is one moment. You're with somebody. Somebody dies. has a cigarette,
(26:48):
you smell the cigarette, all of a sudden you want
to drink. I mean, this is how these things happen.
I think we look at them in a vacuum. But
Ryan will join us coming up next hour. And then
final hour of the program, we'll talk to RG3, the
Heisman Trophy winner and analyst for Fox Sports. Okay, let's
(27:09):
settle on a poll question. Sorry to get heavy early
in the morning here, but you know what? These things
hit me. They hit me. Yeah, still.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Do you want to recap or do you want to
throw a new one in the mix?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Well, how about you recap here? I kind of lost
sight of where we were in the show. But, you know,
go ahead.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Well, if you're not a fan of either team, who
would you rather see lose on Saturday per Todd Fritz?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
Dabo Swinney's Tigers or Lane Kiffin's Tigers? 70% want to
see Lane Kiffin's Tigers lose.
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
For the story, and I'm all in for the story.
I want LSU to win. And I don't have anything
against Dabo. I think he needs to come out of
his cave and realize if you want to coach, be
fair to the fans there at Clemson. Instead of saying,
you know, I do it differently, I get it. But
if you're going to do it differently, then maybe do
(28:06):
it differently some other place. Because the expectation level should
be really high at Clemson. I'm not saying you go
full Lane Kiffin. But I think you've got to embrace Clemson.
the environment, whether you like it or not. If you
don't like it, then don't coach. That's what Saban did.
Saban didn't want to deal with this anymore. And I
don't blame him. The number of coaches who decide, I'm
(28:28):
done with this. And it used to be you coached
until you couldn't coach until you died. These guys are
now looking at this and saying, do I want to
be chasing 18 year olds and they're going to be
negotiating million dollar deals with me? And who's on my
team and who left and who's coming in? And no, no.
(28:49):
But if you're a head coach of a major program,
you got to embrace what is going on and maybe
not embrace. But at least be open to it, because
if you don't do it, somebody else will. Yeah, Paulie?
Speaker 7 (29:03):
If you go back to that run Dabo had going
back to 2015, 14-1, 14-1, 12-2, 15-0, 14-1. Since then,
it's been good.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Last year was 7-6.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Didn't they lose at home to Syracuse?
Speaker 11 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
I think it was bad weather. I remember tuning in.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Going, Clemson is going to lose at home to Syracuse.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
It was bad weather for both teams, though.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I know. No, it was only bad for Clemson when
they took the field. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
But if there's one coach in college football in America
that's on scholarship, it should be double swing.
Speaker 10 (29:38):
Am I right?
Speaker 9 (29:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Know what the temperature is down there I.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
Mean they're not Alabama they're not USC they're not Michigan
they're not Ohio State what was Clemson the previous 10
years before double Sweeney got there they were on par
with Alabama for about a four-year.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Stretch okay but how long are you on scholarship if
good okay You got three national titles. Okay, so you're
fine with no matter what happens to them? At Clemson, yes.
Seven and six, you're okay?
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Maybe eight and four.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Okay, but they went seven and six.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Okay, that's not acceptable.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Okay, but how many more of those are acceptable until
they're not?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
At Clemson?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
What if he has three seasons where he wins eight games,
eight games, seven games? You okay? You're living off those
national titles?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
At Clemson, yes.
Speaker 13 (30:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
There will not be a third season of 7-6. There
might be a second season. They don't do loyalty down south.
I look at Clemson as an SEC team that happens
to be in the ACC. He set his own bar high.
They will not stand for this for too much longer.
Loyalty cannot be everlasting.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Here's Dabo Sweeney, the Clemson head coach on pro players
going back to college.
Speaker 14 (30:55):
Rarely am I at a loss for words, but Chapel Womack,
kind of a loss of words. I would just say
it's kind of embarrassing that that's where we are. I
don't blame the kids. and people trying to take advantage
of the system, I just think it's embarrassing where we
are with college football. And we've been there for a while,
so I just keep my energy and my focus on
(31:16):
and my energy on the things that I control and
the things that matter, and that's these kids here and
our team. But, you know, all that outside stuff, I mean,
we just kind of, no pun intended, we just stay
in our lane, you know, here at Clemson.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Now, I don't know if that's a shot at Lane Kiffin,
because that's what I thought when he said stay in
our lane. No pun intended. And then you throw in
Lane's name. Yeah, I agree with him. Remember when we
would talk about coaches, we'd talk about leaders, leading men,
you know, that's not the case. Now, I'm sure there
(31:50):
are instances where there are truly great people. They're trying
to survive. They're trying to make money. They're trying to
be successful. They're going to go to their next job
and then next job. You're not embedded in a community
the way you once were. And I know, get off
my lawn. I get it. But I'm sorry, those are
the standards I still hold a coach to. When I
(32:13):
see my coaches, if I go back home, they're still
coached to me. They will always be coached to me.
But that's the ultimate respect I can give you is
when I say, hi, coach. Let me take a break.
Get down off my soapbox here.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Yeah, relax.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Can somebody help me?
Speaker 7 (32:36):
No, I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
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The 2-1.
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A swing.
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Ground ball. Left side.
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Sliding at third.
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Basabe has it. Jumps to his feet.
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syracuse leads us off this morning good morning chris.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Hey, thank you, Dan.
Speaker 13 (33:48):
Hey, I was going to comment on Arnie Moreno, but
I feel pretty good about myself. You covered everything I
was going to say right down to Josh Hamilton, so
I'm going to weigh in on the poll and a
question for you. On the poll, I would like to
see Dabble lose for one reason. I wonder if LSU
does blow Clemson out, if Dabble will be able to
control himself in the post-game press conference from taking a
(34:08):
shot at LSU and Lane Kiffin for how they run
their program. especially if some reporter asked Dabo a question,
which would lead him right to it, which I'm sure
may happen. And Dan, I don't know if I'm remembering right,
but didn't Rich Eisen, when your son Jack first got
to USC, have him for dinner a few times and
kind of look out for him?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yes, Rich and his wife Susie, they kind of looked
out for my son when he went to USC and
my daughter. And, uh, Therefore, my daughter made it very
clear that it was important to invite Rich and Susie
to her wedding. But yes, they were there kind of
as godparents to whenever my son would want a meal,
(34:47):
he'd just drive over to the Isons and walk in
and say to Susie, hey, what's for dinner? And I went,
I said, you know, maybe call the Isons, you know,
give him a heads up that you're stopping by. But
he did that while he was at USC. And so
did my daughter. Ryan in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Hi, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
What do you have for me?
Speaker 11 (35:10):
Hey, I got a limerick for Todd's comeback and making
it on the show yesterday and today.
Speaker 9 (35:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Right.
Speaker 11 (35:19):
We expected Todd to whine like a pup. Instead, he
brought the energy of a coffee cup. So though we
bust his chops, we must give him props. Or we
won't even stir if he was going to show up.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
It started out so positive. He did. He leaned on
the lisp.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
Yeah, slushy-ass limerick last line. He just wrapped it up nicely.
He wasn't even sure if he should have shown up.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Okay. Now, Todd just sent me a limerick. What's the
limerick about?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I just quickly put a little angels limerick together on
Stan Kroenke buying the angels.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
What's happened to the angels?
Speaker 8 (36:01):
A crime.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
New ownership, it's about time.
Speaker 8 (36:04):
Let's give Kroenke a hand, not just Disneyland, some relevance
now in Anaheim.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
All right.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Thank you. Thank you, Todd. Did you run this by Paulie?
Speaker 8 (36:13):
I didn't because I just want them to hear it
for the first time. But I know he likes to
check everything ahead of time just to protect me mainly
in case I say something inappropriate. But I like to
get everybody's fresh reaction.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Thank you for making it a great experience for me
and the listeners.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
JJ in Florida. Good morning, JJ. What do you have
for me?
Speaker 10 (36:32):
Good morning, Dan. If I had been asked, God, back
in the audience network days, which one of the four
original Danettes would be with you towards the very end,
I would not have picked Fritzie. But at this point,
with Polly only being a part-timer, Fritzie is the longest-serving, longest-tenured,
(36:55):
full-time Danette. And I wanted to chime in on yesterday's
conversation about punk rock.
Speaker 13 (36:59):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
I would not argue with you that Helter Skelter is
a punk rock song.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I believe it is.
Speaker 10 (37:04):
But the Kinks, You Really Got Me, came out in,
I believe, 64. And I'll forgive you for not getting
that one, but My Generation by The Who and those
sloppy drums by Mooney, 1965. That, I think, precedes The Beatles.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Well, I think The Beatles came up with Helter Skelter,
and this is just off memory, because they had gotten
word that The Who were going to come out with
something really loud. And I don't know if it was
Lennon or McCartney who said, you know what? Why don't
we jump the gun? And they came out with Helter Skelter.
And Helter Skelter was, what, 1968? And if you want
(37:43):
to put the kinks in there for punk, I'm fine
with that. I, just me, and, you know, the who
with my generation, I wouldn't think it was punk. But
if it is your interpretation, that's fine. Helter Skelter was
something that was different. And the fact that it came
from the Beatles, a boy band, made it stand out
(38:05):
even more. You know, Dave and Ray Davies of the Kinks,
they were wonderful. The Who, one of my favorite bands
as well. But for me, Helter Skelter was maybe the
door opening to what punk was going to sound like
or could sound like. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
Paul McCartney did a number of interviews and said they
read a review of I Can See for Miles by
The Who. They said it was loud and raunchy, and
they went right in the studio and said, let's top it.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
And they did. Like, when you hear Helter Skelter, that's
unlike anything that we had heard back then. Yes, Dylan?
Speaker 5 (38:41):
To me, I mean, look, I could see where the
punk origin thing comes from. To me, that's more metal
origin than punk, what punk ended up becoming, particularly in England.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, punk wasn't metal?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
No.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Like, heavy metal?
Speaker 11 (38:57):
No.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Well, that's loud music. Punk is loud music, correct?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Not necessarily.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Maybe similar tone. But look, you're not going to embrace
the Beatles with Helter Skelter. You got your mind on,
you know, MC5 or the Stooges or The Clash or whoever.
That's fine. But to me, the Beatles did something that
we had not heard before, and it was played on radio.
You know, Stooges didn't get a lot of airplay or MC5.
(39:31):
The Clash did. But, you know, here's the Beatles doing it.
And it felt like, God, the Beatles are doing it.
You're allowed to do it. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
It does feel like you're both arguing the same point
because punk music and, you know, heavy metal both felt
like kind of a middle finger at the time. Like,
let's do something others aren't doing, not the pop rock.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, you know, the Stones had heavy metal and the
Who before the Beatles did. It was just what the
Beatles did with that song, in my opinion. That's all
my opinion. It felt like that was ushering in a
sound that we had not heard, and maybe that was
the preview to what punk rock was going to sound like.
You okay with that, Dylan?
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yeah, I think we actually we do agree more than
I think people think. We also disagree a lot.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, we do. We disagree more than what people think.
I'm going to be in the confessional coming up here
at the 30 seconds. Ryan Leaf is in the building.
He'll join us coming up in a little bit. Talk
some college football with him. Phone calls. Update the poll
results as well. It's a pizza Wednesday. Todd is here.
(40:46):
Bandage it all. Dylan in the back row. Marvin, Paulie
up front. Yours truly. One hour in the books on
this Wednesday. This occasionally award-nominated program. Hour two right around
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