November 10, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan breaks down a busy weekend in the NFL. He thinks Jonathan Taylor will be the Offensive Player of the Year but really should be the MVP, and that Jaxson Dart needs to learn how to avoid contact.
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and college coming up. We got Eagles at the Packers
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later on tonight and the Eagles going to Lambeau and
they are favored by one and a half, which is
kind of interesting. NFL MVP odds courtesy of DraftKings this morning.
Some surprises in there, and I hope that voters don't
do this, and I know they're going to, but I
would caution them. Don't be afraid to put Jonathan Taylor
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in as MVP, because this is what's going to happen.
Jonathan Taylor will be the Offensive Player of the year.
It's a cop out. Now, maybe you don't think a
running back is more valuable than a quarterback. That's fine.
Drake May has been wonderful. Matthew Stafford's been wonderful. I mean,
there's a few quarterbacks. Mahomes you can put him in
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there as well, But Jonathan Taylor has had an incredible
start to this season. I'm just talking about now, if
you're putting these players under consideration for MVP, because the
leading candidate right now is Drake May, then it's Matthew Stafford,
then it's Patrick Mahomes, then it's Jonathan Taylor. Drake May
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has been great, so is Stafford in these last three games.
For four touchdowns, no interceptions in those three consecutive games.
I don't think that's ever been done before. Mahomes is
in there and we can say, yes, he is the
most valuable player because that guy can win you a
Super Bowl. I understand that. I think you got to
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be careful with this, that it's just a quarterback Award.
It's like the Heisman Jonathan Taylor, It's sort of like
Jeremiah Love at Notre Dame. Love is incredible, but I
don't think he's going to be in the conversation. Hopefully
he gets invited to the Heisman ceremony, but it feels
like it's Fernando Mendoza or Julian Sayin Jeremiah Love is incredible.
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Now once again we get into this argument with the Heisman,
who is the best player? Who is the best quarterback
on the best team. And that's why we tend to
look at quarterbacks there and the MVP. The cop out
is going to be NFL Offensive Player of the Year.
But when you look at Offensive Player of the Year,
there's no quarterback here. So they can be most valuable,
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but they can be the best offensive player. Jonathan Taylor,
by the way, is your big favorite for the Offensive
Player of the Year. Jackson Smith Jigma is second on
the list. It's a two man race right now, Phu Kannakua,
Christian McCaffrey and Jamar Chase. So none of these quarterbacks
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can be the Offensive Player of the Year. Yes, Marvin, for.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
A non quarterback to win either the Heisman or the
NFL MVP Award. You have to have some incredible story.
Travis Hunter won the Heisman last year because he's done
something nobody in the history of college football, at least
in modern era, has ever done before. And that's played
both ways. Adrian Peterson his leg was almost off of
his body and he came back and rushed two thousand
yards and they were like, all right, we'll give it
to him this time.
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day as well. Your phone calls are always welcome. Each
seven to seven three DP show operator Tyler's sitting by
to take your phone calls. A couple of surprises. I
kept waiting for the bills to be the bills, and
then all of a sudden, I realized this is one
of the new England would always do this. It felt
like every year in November December they'd go to Miami
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and you go, what happened? Well, that was what happened
yesterday with the Buffalo Bills. Give the Dolphins credit. I
didn't know. You know, if they were dismantling rebuilding, you
fire your GM, you keep your coach, and you roll
the Bills. Patriots over the Buccaneers. It's a big win.
Chargers over the Steelers. You know, this is why Vegas
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is Vegas. When they say, hey, we still think this
is four weeks ago, this is a month ago. And
I came on and I said, guess who Vegas has
as the favorite to win the AFC North or at
least almost equal odds with the Steelers. And it was
the Ravens. And the Ravens had I think one or
two wins. Now they've won three in a row. Who's
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the favorite in the AFC North right now? It'd be
the Ravens. And if you watched the Steelers last night,
that was uninspiring football. I'm watching Aaron Rodgers. He's still
trying to be Aaron Rodgers. I think he's just Aaron
who is the quarterback for the Steelers, and the numbers
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are nice, but you know, remember they've moved on from quarterbacks.
I mean, Russ put up good numbers there. Although when
Russ came into the Giants came yesterday, oh my goodness,
it was almost as if he had never played the
position before. And the Giants have an issue here. The
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Giants have a Jackson dart issue. He's played in what
eight games? He didn't play in the first game. I
think he's been in the concussion tent four times, four
different games. Now, it doesn't mean he's had four different concussions,
but I got to have a coach who's going to
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protect my quarterback and maybe from himself. Because Jackson Dartis
had seven starts, he has been looked at for concussion.
He was sent to the locker room yesterday. Now I
like how he plays, but I would love if he
didn't take contact that he didn't need to take. Don't
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be afraid to slide, And that's a big issue here.
That's a big problem. But if you're Brian Dable and
you're the Giants head coach, you're trying to keep your
job because you don't want Russ in there. I thought
that they would have put Jameis Winston in there. I
would have thought that he would give you a better
chance than Russ. I think Russ's confidence is gone these
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last couple of years gone, and it showed yesterday. Yeah,
Dylan also like, if you're going to.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Lose the game anyways, this on pure entertainment value, put
Jamis in there. I at least lose, like more excitingly.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, Jamis has still tried to play for something. Maybe
he gets an opportunity to be not a starter but
a backup. And you start to look at, you know,
some of these quarterback trends. You know, justin Herbert, is
he now back? You know, I mean talk about a
depleted roster, your two running backs, your two tackles. Keenan
Allen is your kind of go to guy. But I
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mean they won, but they play really good defense. Makes
you wonder if they had those weapons, just how good
they would be. Yes, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Look how good the charges are with Keenan Allen is healthy,
first team all when he's healthy.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, well, he has the most receptions in Chargers history.
Moved past Antonio Gates last night but watching that game,
that was less than inspiring. If you're a Steeler fan,
Colts get a big win. Comeback, The Bears gonna win. Ravens.
How about the Jets? Hey, as long as his special
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teams are going to be scoring touchdowns, they're going to
be a force to be dealt with. There. But I'm
looking at their passing numbers. Let me see if I
have so that the Jets own the three lowest net
passing yard performances this season. Now, this is where you
factor in the yardage from sacks. Fifty four passing yards
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against the Bills, forty two against the Browns, minus ten
against the Broncos. That's I mean, statistically, it's almost impossible
in today's NFL to throw fifty four, forty two and
minus ten.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
All righty, Dylan, what's the poll question you got for me?
All right?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Well, we got a couple options then for starters right
now after this weekend? Who should be the MVP? Drake
may or Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well? Which team do you believe in? More? How about
that one? Let me start with that. Which team do
you think is Are the Patriots the best team in
the ANFC? Are the Colts? The best team in the
ANFC Denver people probably would say Kansas City just because
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of the history here. But I'd be curious which team
does this audience think is better, the Colts or the Patriots,
because I think you're still kind of waiting for the Colts.
Are they going to come back to Earth? And it's
Danny Dimes? Where's Drake May? Drake May looks legitimate? And
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I think because of that, they got a running game,
You've got a great coach in there, and that's a
big win on the road.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, So odds wise to win the AFC, the Chiefs
are favored plus two ninety, then Colts plus four fifty,
then Bills plus four seventy five, and then Patriots plus
seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, it feels I mean that loss, and I know
it's recency biased with the Bills. After you beat Kansas
City and then you do that, it's like Carolina beats
Green Bay at Green Bay and then you do that
shuck around and find out with the Saints, I'm still
not sold on Bryce Love or Bryce Young, Michael Pennix
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Junior the third. I know it's nine starts, but man,
oh man, you're just looking for progress. What do you
do well and can you continue to do that? And
I haven't seen that, And that's what that's what makes
me nervous when you go all in on a quarterback.
They spend all that money on Kirk Cousins Carolina. They
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they wanted Bryce, they got Bryce, and even though they've
played some pretty good football, I just don't think that
he's as threatening as I would want my franchise quarterback
to be. I also think the Niners at some point
have to look at this and be realistic. Mac Jones
played well yesterday. Numbers might be a little deceiving, but
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he's played really well. Can you get the same kind
of performance from him the rest of the year? And
at what point do you look and say, is he
better than Rock Purty? Now you pay Brock Purty fifty
million dollars. But keep in mind, I go back to
the draft and I was told Kyle Shanahan loved mac Jones.
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And we've seen Kyle Shanahan can make just about any
quarterback better except Trey Lance. Jimmy Garoppolo got to a
super Bowl, Brock Perdy got to a Super Bowl. Who's
to think you know that maybe not this year, but
you know down the road, Mac Jones could get you
to a super Bowl. I mean, they're not a healthy
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team right now. And they put up, you know, three
hundred yards and threw three touchdowns. But Matthew Stafford was
the star. Yeah, that's these are historical numbers here, and
he makes it look easy. And I was talking to
Paulie last week. I was like, if you would have
said whose career is going to last longer, Clayton Kershaw
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or his grade school buddy, Matthew Stafford, I probably would
have said Clayton Kershaw is going to throw longer than
Matthew Stafford. How about that? For the you know, backyard
bragging rights Stafford and Clayton Kershaw. Whose career would you want?
Matthew Stafford or Clayton Kershaw? Both are Hall of famers.
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You know, people were debating this over the weekend with
Matthew Stafford, and I said, you know, what he did
in Detroit easy to overlook. But I think what he's
done in Los Angeles makes you go kind if he
would have had a good team with him, I wonder
how we would have viewed him. Now. That's not fair
to everybody who plays on a good team or does
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n't play on a good team, but you do see
what he does with a better roster, and who knew
who Puka Nakua was or Cooper Cup. He helped make
them better wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yes, Marvin, and I think any I think at NFL
MVP would definitely help Matthew Stafford's case for the Hall
of Fame more so than a Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think he's already going to be a Hall of Famer.
I do you.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Think he's like first ballot, like, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Well, I don't know if it's that. And once again,
there's what forty five writers who vote on this, But
just I think winning that Super Bowl, given the longevity,
he's going to have numbers. You know, it's different than
matt Ryan, Philip Rivers and I think, you know, even
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Matthew Stafford with his career versus Elis, if you want
to throw that in the mix. But I think I
think Stafford's going to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Yeah, Pauly, Yeah, I mean Stafford a year ago, twenty touchdowns,
eight picks, some shoulder injuries a couple of years ago,
he's like playing with house money. Now you're just adding
a top five MVP or maybe another Super Bowl appearance
at this juncture at thirty seven thirty eight, that's how
you lock it down.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
He's the first player in NFL history with at least
four touchdown passes no interceptions in three consecutive games. Out
of the days.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Sad of the day, that best stat of the day,
stat of the day?
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Here comes that?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
What stat of the day? All right, Weston wors to
the weekend. We'll get to your phone calls. We'll settle
on a poll question for this first hour. Our Gerald
McCoy of NFL Network Fame will join us. Rick Neuheisel
will recap the college football weekend as well and some
of the potential coaching vacancies. I got some information on
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Brian Kelly in his exit from LSU. Negotiations were going
on this weekend. Also, maybe the leading candidate for the
Penn Stagia have that for you coming up as well. Well.
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Alaska and Hawaii ends eleven, twenty three, twenty five settle
on a poll question. So Jackson Dart did suffer a
concussion in the loss to the Bears. So four times
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in seven games he has been looked at for concussion,
and of course the Giants got fined because he was
in the blue tent. Was that a week ago or
two weeks ago when Brian Dable's yelling for him to
come out of the blue tent? Bad look? And Jackson
Dart said, Hey, this is the way I'm going to play. Okay,
I would have you talk to RG three and a
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few other of these quarterbacks who wanted to play that way.
There's only so many hits you can take. I don't
care how tough you are. But here is Brian Dabele,
the Giants head coach.
Speaker 9 (17:28):
Look, I'm not sure exactly the play that had happened,
So I'm concerned for the kid.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 9 (17:35):
I don't know the exact play that it happened for
him relative to getting hurt or not getting hurt. But
I don't know the play. I don't know when it was.
I mean, I just know that when he was going
back out there and we were sitting around a huddle.
I saw him. I got Ronnie over theres to check
him out.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, you're going to have to protect him from himself.
But you have a coaching staff that's trying to keep
their job attached themselves to the progress of Jackson Dart,
and I certainly understand that. But I'm gonna talk to
Gerald McCoy, former defensive lineman. He'll join us. When you
play against a quarterback like that, because normally there is
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some professionalism sometimes where you can take a shot, but
you don't take a shot, or if you do, you
maybe don't take the shot that you could. Here's a
guy who is kind of asking for it, engaging in contact,
and he runs and he you know, he scores touchdowns.
I think he scored four consecutive games a rushing touchdown.
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A lot of progress there. I just don't want a
situation like Miami has with tuatongua Ilo where you're just waiting,
just waiting for that other shoot to drop.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, Dylan Dart feels a little bit like early Josh
Allen in his career, where he was kind of getting
knocks for taking maybe unnecessary hits. And he's actually a
little bigger than Dart.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yes, Yes, a lot bigger. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Paul Jackson's dart has seven games this year, he has
seven attempts per game. He's leading the league in quarterback
rushes per game in the seven games he's been in.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, I mean this is his style is to the
way he played when he was at Old Miss. He
was aggressive. But you know you might get to a
point where you've got to sit him down. Well, you
might have to look at this and say, let's have
him for next year. Let's make sure that he is
as healthy as possible, and that'll be a tough decision,
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certainly for that coaching staff. All Right, get some phone
calls in here. Uh David in Ohio, Hi, David, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (19:41):
It was up Dan and got the worst and best
of the weekend in that order, watching Aaron Rodgers and
my pitch per Steelers once again fall flat on their
faces in primetime against the Chargers. Being a Steelers fan
right now is like ball in the stock park. At
one minute you're surging, the next minute your portfolio is
on fire. But the best Dan, it was rewatching the
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Dan Patrick Show on Peacock and seeing saw with that
Mark Davis Wig helped nurse the wounds from me being
a Steelers fan, So thank you, all right, David.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, Todd had to pay off his bet. He wore
Mark Davis Wig on Friday Look Good.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
Mario was like the barber because they first looked like
a Justin Bieberwig so before the show, and Paulie was
overseeing it to make sure they're cutting the bangs and
making it look more like the actual owner's hairdo.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And Mark go's in there and asked for that haircut too,
which is a little scary, Yeah, because I think growing up,
you know, sometimes your mom would cut your hair. I
know she did that when I was really young, and
I remember my sisters they would get bangs. You know,
they weren't even even I mean it was you know,
got six kids, and she's saying, yeah, I'm not. She
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didn't have a car, so you know, we weren't going
to get a haircut at the barber shop. Just get there.
I remember sitting in a high chair and getting my
haircut by my mom in the kitchen. You're like sixteenth
year no, probably like six or seven years of age,
and then she finally just shaved all my hair off
one time, and I looked terrible, but you know, she
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was like, well, it'll take a while for it to
grow back, and then I'll you know, cut it again. Yes, yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Mark Davis looks more like a self inflicted wound. I
can't imagine any professional barber willingly doing that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
No, but he does go in. I don't know if
he comes in with a picture and says, hey, that's
the kind of haircut mess mess.
Speaker 12 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Fam Lucas in Texas, Hi, Luke, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (21:39):
They dan good morning, good morning, best and worst of
the weekend? You know, I guess my best is my
Texans with their big comeback win. I don't know, Like, yes,
a nineteen point comeback win in the fourth quarter is exciting,
but also this feels just like a weird lost season,
so everyone was kind of happy. I mean, the back
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happening in an empty stadium, and it kind of just
reflects the year they're having. I will say my worst is,
you know, we're in a new world with sports betting
and whatnot, and I just feel like the stuff with
a manual place coming out of the Guardians as just
the tip of the iceberg. I know that everyone's made
their peace with or getting in bed with all the
betting companies. But I just feel like maybe ten percent
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of the people get caught up, and it just, you know,
to me, it kind of makes me worry about the
fundamental integrity of some of these games. If this is
really a sustain problem.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yes, it is a problem. Prop bets are a problem
because you know what happens. You live in a vacuum.
You're thinking, I'm just a pitcher with the Indians, the Guardians,
nobody's going to know. Nobody's going to know that. I'm
going to throw this pitch in the dirt and my
friends are going to bet on this, and then I
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get a piece of that, and that's what happens. Hey
put some money down for me. Well, Vegas is monitoring
all of this because they have to. All they want
to see is is there any impropriety here? Are there
any red flags? All of a sudden, I got a
ball in my hand and I can pick up twenty
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five thousand dollars with one pitch. Fifty thousand my friends
could make money one pitch. What could possibly go wrong
with that? I hate prop bets because of this. I
understand if you're a gambler and you love that. I've
gone to baseball games where I bet on you know,
if the pitch is a ball or strike with friends.
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I get it, I understand it. But I just I
think all of these leagues, it's like you can't put
the toothpaste back in now. I think you got to
get away from prop bets in college because those kids
have no idea. They're like, hey, nobody's gonna know. Hey,
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you know I'm playing at this school. No, nobody's gonna Well,
you tell one guy and then he tells another guy.
That's the problem. All of a sudden, fifteen people know
about it. Oh did you hear such and such? You
know he's going to do this? Basketball players, Hey, I
can you know a couple of turnovers? Here? What's my
over under? Oh okay, I'll definitely go under. This is
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what happens.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You've got baseball players, You've got a picture making six
million dollars a year, and he lives in a vacuum.
Nobody's going to know, Hey, can you send this to
my account in the Dominican Republic? All of these sports,
I mean, this is this is what you brought in
and you knew it. You know it and uh will
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continue to have these moments. You know, Johntay Porter with Toronto,
nobody's nobody even knows he's in the league and he's
got over unders and people are making money, and he's
probably thinking nobody is going to notice this. Well, nobody
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will notice if people don't get greedy, because you could
do those prop bets. Hey, why don't you put down
twenty five hundred on this? But if you're in Vegas
and this is what they'll tell you, they'll be like
looking at all of these things that they're like, what's
jumping out? What's jumping out? They'll take games off the
board and then all of a sudden, you go, we
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got like seventy five thousand dollars on a pitch from
a picture in Cleveland. Ding ding ding, Ding, ding ding Ding.
That's all they're looking for is red flags. And look,
I've said this DraftKings is a sponsor of ours. I
tell you to be responsible. I gave you the numbers
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on you know, the number of kids who are considered
addicted to gambling in New Jersey. The numbers were from
eighteen to twenty four years of age, college kids who
are betting, and then all of a sudden, you get
in and you can't get out. It's a cautionary tale.
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And it's not that I just tell you, or you
to tell your kids or grandkids. I say this to
my son. You'll never beat them, You'll never you'll never
beat them, But if you do it in a way,
and it's you know, but nobody wants to do that.
It's like I don't want to win fifty bucks when
I can win five hundred and then all of a
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sudden you're down five hundred five point fifty with the
big Now, I got to get that back. You know,
this is how all of this stuff works. And now
you've got players. These guys are probably going to prison, prison, prison.
This isn't sports prison where you don't get to play
for a year. It's twenty years that they face for
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fixing a game. You know, Chauncey Billups, what role did
he play? What information did he give out? Damon Jones?
What information on Lebron?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Like?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
People find this out and its valuable, valuable information, But
I'm not surprised. I'm really now the rigged poker games
and that they had they could see x you know,
it's like X ray vision with your cart. Now that
one surprise me. Okay, I'm not surprised too often in
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this sports world. That's where I went, Wow, And you
bring in these fish and then you take them for
millions of dollars, and there's I was told this over
the weekend by somebody who works in law enforcement that
there is a big name who got taken for over
a million dollars. He wasn't one of the guys who's
bringing in people. He was taking advantage of over a million.
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Another guy told me teams on cross country flights, millions
of dollars would change hands playing cards. Now nothing that was,
you know, anything nefarious. These are teammates playing cards and
millions of dollars were exchanged with teammates and losing. But
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that's why when you hear about guys who are getting
in fights, somebody gonna pull a gun on and you
know there's a lot of money involved here, Yeah, Paulin.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
The one thing though, over the past month, I've heard
a lot of people say the commissioners of the different
sports should step up and say to these different draft outlets,
betting outlets that we got to get rid of the
prop bets. But all these different places if they get
rid of prop bets, they're cutting down their own revenue drastically.
I'm looking at the Monday night football game. I'm looking
at fifty five different prop bets you could choose from tonight.
(28:48):
There's only four around the game itself, over under win, loss,
et cetera, et cetera, halftime. So if these places get
rid of prop bets, they're going to have less money
to spend on sponsoring these leagues, sponsoring the NBA, sponsoring ESPN.
It's like a cycle that I don't think can be broken.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Can you cap these? Because the Super Bowl has all
of those goofy prop bets, but they cap that of
how much you can spend. That would be the only
thing that maybe you could say, you can only bet
this amount, that's it, and then therefore you're not going
to get these big numbers. But just imagine somebody says
to his buddies, I'm going to throw this pitch in
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the dirt. You can bet on this pitch, and then
they make money. But it's the problem is the amount
of money that's put on a pitch like that. That's
what jumps ound. Yeah, Paul, like you said.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
According to the article with the pitcher clase. It was
a random Guardians Mets game in the middle of May
twenty twenty three, nobody watching, nobody caring. One of the
over under bets was his pitch of ninety four miles
per hour. He told his friends allegedly it would be
under and they won twenty seven thousand on that one pitch.
Then another pitch ball or strike, they won thirty eight
(30:06):
thousand when he spiked it five feet in front of
the plate, and that set up the red flags.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
And you don't think anybody is going to notice who
pitches in May, Yes, Todd, But it's not just greed.
Speaker 11 (30:17):
If you get involved with the wrong people and you
think there's just a one time thing, you're just going
to do it a couple of times and whether you
realize it or not. And it's someone I don't want
to use the word mapia, but whatever you want to
call it. And now they got you, and now you're
doing things you don't want to do because now they're
going to thread to ruin your life and your career.
So it's now it's not just one time. They're going
to tell you to do it as many times they
want you to do it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, and I do believe people have probably gotten compromised
here with this NBA situation that if you owe somebody
then all of a sudden you can pay it back.
We need you to do this. You get compromised, and
certainly compromised with the Mob. And who knew. Yeah, haven't
heard anything about the Mob unless I go to, you know,
(30:56):
a family reunion on my wife's side, that's about the
Mob or the artist formerly known as the Mob, because
I always say, is it really organized crime? And then
my wife will go, don't do it. It seems like
it's disorganized crime. I don't know, that's just me. Can
I have some more pasta?
Speaker 12 (31:17):
Please?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I'll have the bragioles please, Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I think the number one rule is don't rat on
your friends, and that got broken pretty.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Frequently as it is. Gus in La, Good morning, Gus.
What's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (31:33):
You're more than mister Patriey hoping the boys had a
good weekend. Well pretty much just took the wind all
out of my wings with that one, because well the
best of my weekend. Fernanda Mendoza, I don't care what
anybody's got to say. That boy's the Heisman winner. In
my book, what a game, What a way to stamp
it there with the exclamation point at the end. That, boy,
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to me, is a heighten winter this year, worse of
the weekend the Pittsburgh Steelers. All I'm gonna say, David
and Ohio nailed it. It is a terrible season. I
don't care what the record says. This is a bad season.
And then I was gonna say, you know, this thing
with the cheating and the gambling and everything, I mean,
I had something else I was gonna say, but that
(32:16):
all just got taken out away. But I'm now going
to say, is that is this kind of going to
go away? Because they're saying, holy crap, they're catching everybody
and everyone's going to prison or is it the next
shoe going to drop of like so and so in
the NFL has been arrested on this.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Well, I don't think it's going away. And nobody thinks
that they're going to get caught. And you know, once again,
you're pitching for Cleveland, you're facing the Mets. It's a
game in May. Who cares, but Vegas cares? And I
don't think they are prop bets for you know, when
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you're betting offshore. If you're betting illegally, I don't think
you can do prop bets. I might be wrong, but
I don't think you can. I mean, DraftKings, fan duel,
all the like. They want you to see those those
prop bets. You know, that's that's big business for them. Yeah, Paul,
like you're saying.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Back in the day, when you bet with a legal bookie,
it was parlays and game bets. There weren't twenty five
different prop bets of how many yards in the first
quarter by blank blank?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's different. But I think if you cap it,
it can be fun. But I can't have prop bets
in college. I can't do that to college kids or
give them that temptation. Yes, dealing, what if you.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Had to parlay the props? So then it gets diffused
a little bit away from one person. See if the
parlay with someone else, you can't get to more than
one guy that easily.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I don't know if anything's going to change. I don't
I don't know, all right, you know what, Let me
take a break here. I want to get to our
play of the day. More phone calls coming up.
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here to win the AFC North the Ravens minus two ninety,
Steelers plus two sixty, and then it's the Bengals at
plus twenty eight hundred the Browns at plus twenty thousand.
Dylan Gabriel did not look good at all. I don't
know if that means that Cleveland is going to give
Shador Sanders a chance at this point. I think that
(35:49):
they should, or I hope they do, but only based
on Dylan Gabriel just not looking good and missing wide
open wide receivers. Didn't look like he was a quarterback
in NFL quarterback now he's at his moments and you
got to make some plays, but you got to hit
(36:10):
the open guy. And you know, maybe Shador Sanders is
a lot further away than anybody wants to believe. But
if he's your backup quarterback or Bailey Zappi, then put Bailey.
Bailey Zappi is a better quarterback than Dylan Gabriel probably
right now. He's got experience, he's been in NFL offenses.
Put him in there. If not, then give Shador Sanders
(36:33):
a chance.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Here.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
A couple more phone calls in here, Chris and Syracuse Hi, Chris,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Hey?
Speaker 13 (36:40):
Thanks a lot of dance. Hey, I'm going to veer
off of my best and worst because I know you
got other callers and we're up against it at the
top of the hour, you know. But you were talking
last segment about in the Mafia being involved in this
gambling stuff, which you hear all over the place, especially lately,
and I've always been curious. We're so sad sensitive now
(37:00):
to like the Redskins, the Indians, not just the sports
but everywhere in the term Bill's Mafia. Unless I'd missed it,
I've never heard any blowback against it. And I'm one
hundred percent of Italian and I couldn't care less, but
I find it fascinating, again, unless I missed it, that
there's not even a little blowback, because that's kind of
(37:20):
universally used now and even a lot of commentators use it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, I don't even think of it. I mean, we
romanticize the Mafia. When you watch movies that have, you know,
Mafia in it, you find yourself rooting for the Mafia.
It feels like like the bad guys and you're kind
of rooting for them. It's weird, but No, I don't
get caught up in Bill's mafia.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yes, Mormon, and I don't think the Italian community has
ever said you called this to what the mafia?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
What?
Speaker 12 (37:53):
Yeah, Dylan just rename it the Bill's Costinostra. Let's go
legit with it. That might draw some attention. That one might.
Zach and Knoxville, Good morning, Zach. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (38:09):
ADP?
Speaker 8 (38:09):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Just a quick question.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
I don't know if you have enough time to get
to it.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
This hour, but I know how you are about giving
running back to second or even third contract. Then, with
Daniel Jones looking to get a contract from the Colts,
would you sign Jonathan Taylor up he is under contract
through next year.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yes, but I would probably wait till the end of
this year. I don't like jumping the gun, but that
might be one of those where, you know, maybe you
give him a three year deal. I don't want to
give a running back second contract and it's five years,
three years, but I'm gonna pay you top end dollar.
(38:53):
I'm gonna pay you commensurate to what you're gonna do.
I mean, he's been he's been great, and you talk
talk about running backs make moves in really small like boxes.
It just feels like and Taylor had a move that
he scored a touchdown where it's just one move and
(39:14):
there's a defender right in front of you. He doesn't
even get a hand on you that ability, and he
does something that Le'Veon Bell did really really well, and
that is he waits, He kind of glides a little
bit to the left or right, and then that offensive
line has been really good and then he just hits
the hole. Le'Veon Bell did that. Le'Veon Bell changed running backs.
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You know that style where he's just kind of drifting, drifting, boom,
and you see that with Jonathan Taylor. But Jonathan Taylor
has track speed, Like that's the difference. When he goes,
he's gone.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Yeah, Pauli Taylor also has zero fumbles this year. He's
making fifteen million this year, fifteen million next year, relatively
a bargain. He signed his second contract two years ago
for a three year, forty five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
You yeah, but I don't know if it's a bargain
because it's still fifteen million at that position. Now, do
I consider him their most valuable player? I do? And
it's like Saquon Barkley with Danny Dimes. It's not a
case of Saquon needed Danny Dimes. Danny Dimes needed Saquon.
Jonathan Taylor and maybe the Colts have their their quarterback
(40:21):
and their running back. But you know, given five years
to a running back, I don't care what kind of
year he has. And you see the mileage that it's
really hard. Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley, you have those incredible years.
It's really hard to replicate that. And I remember where
the over under for Derrick Henry was like, I don't know,
(40:43):
twelve hundred yards or something, and people are like, oh
my god, I thought he's going to run for two thousand.
I'm like, no, you only have so many carries. Your
body has only so many carries. We'll talk some football.
Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst, and Rick Neuheisel. Did Fernanda
Mendoza win the Heisman with one play this past weekend?
(41:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody gangs here ready
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later on tonight and the Eagles going to Lambeau and
they are favored by one and a half, which is
kind of interesting. NFL MVP odds courtesy of DraftKings this morning.
Some surprises in there, and I hope that voters don't
do this, and I know they're going to, but I
would caution them. Don't be afraid to put Jonathan Taylor
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in as MVP, because this is what's going to happen.
Jonathan Taylor will be the Offensive Player of the year.
It's a cop out. Now, maybe you don't think a
running back is more valuable than a quarterback. That's fine.
Drake May has been wonderful. Matthew Stafford's been wonderful. I mean,
there's a few quarterbacks. Mahomes you can put him in
(01:28):
there as well, But Jonathan Taylor has had an incredible
start to this season. I'm just talking about now, if
you're putting these players under consideration for MVP, because the
leading candidate right now is Drake May, then it's Matthew Stafford,
then it's Patrick Mahomes, then it's Jonathan Taylor. Drake May
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has been great, so is Stafford in these last three games.
For four touchdowns, no interceptions in those three consecutive games.
I don't think that's ever been done before. Mahomes is
in there and we can say, yes, he is the
most valuable player because that guy can win you a
Super Bowl. I understand that. I think you got to
(02:14):
be careful with this, that it's just a quarterback Award.
It's like the Heisman Jonathan Taylor, It's sort of like
Jeremiah Love at Notre Dame. Love is incredible, but I
don't think he's going to be in the conversation. Hopefully
he gets invited to the Heisman ceremony, but it feels
like it's Fernando Mendoza or Julian Sayin Jeremiah Love is incredible.
(02:40):
Now once again we get into this argument with the Heisman,
who is the best player? Who is the best quarterback
on the best team. And that's why we tend to
look at quarterbacks there and the MVP. The cop out
is going to be NFL Offensive Player of the Year.
But when you look at Offensive Player of the Year,
there's no quarterback here. So they can be most valuable,
(03:03):
but they can be the best offensive player. Jonathan Taylor,
by the way, is your big favorite for the Offensive
Player of the Year. Jackson Smith Jigma is second on
the list. It's a two man race right now, Phu Kannakua,
Christian McCaffrey and Jamar Chase. So none of these quarterbacks
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can be the Offensive Player of the Year. Yes, Marvin, for.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
A non quarterback to win either the Heisman or the
NFL MVP Award. You have to have some incredible story.
Travis Hunter won the Heisman last year because he's done
something nobody in the history of college football, at least
in modern era, has ever done before. And that's played
both ways. Adrian Peterson his leg was almost off of
his body and he came back and rushed two thousand
yards and they were like, all right, we'll give it
to him this time.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
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of the Day poll question a few Stats of the
day as well. Your phone calls are always welcome. Each
seven to seven three DP show operator Tyler's sitting by
to take your phone calls. A couple of surprises. I
kept waiting for the bills to be the bills, and
then all of a sudden, I realized this is one
of the new England would always do this. It felt
like every year in November December they'd go to Miami
(04:33):
and you go, what happened? Well, that was what happened
yesterday with the Buffalo Bills. Give the Dolphins credit. I
didn't know. You know, if they were dismantling rebuilding, you
fire your GM, you keep your coach, and you roll
the Bills. Patriots over the Buccaneers. It's a big win.
Chargers over the Steelers. You know, this is why Vegas
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is Vegas. When they say, hey, we still think this
is four weeks ago, this is a month ago. And
I came on and I said, guess who Vegas has
as the favorite to win the AFC North or at
least almost equal odds with the Steelers. And it was
the Ravens. And the Ravens had I think one or
two wins. Now they've won three in a row. Who's
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the favorite in the AFC North right now? It'd be
the Ravens. And if you watched the Steelers last night,
that was uninspiring football. I'm watching Aaron Rodgers. He's still
trying to be Aaron Rodgers. I think he's just Aaron
who is the quarterback for the Steelers, and the numbers
(05:45):
are nice, but you know, remember they've moved on from quarterbacks.
I mean, Russ put up good numbers there. Although when
Russ came into the Giants came yesterday, oh my goodness,
it was almost as if he had never played the
position before. And the Giants have an issue here. The
(06:06):
Giants have a Jackson dart issue. He's played in what
eight games? He didn't play in the first game. I
think he's been in the concussion tent four times, four
different games. Now, it doesn't mean he's had four different concussions,
but I got to have a coach who's going to
(06:28):
protect my quarterback and maybe from himself. Because Jackson Dartis
had seven starts, he has been looked at for concussion.
He was sent to the locker room yesterday. Now I
like how he plays, but I would love if he
didn't take contact that he didn't need to take. Don't
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be afraid to slide, And that's a big issue here.
That's a big problem. But if you're Brian Dable and
you're the Giants head coach, you're trying to keep your
job because you don't want Russ in there. I thought
that they would have put Jameis Winston in there. I
would have thought that he would give you a better
chance than Russ. I think Russ's confidence is gone these
(07:12):
last couple of years gone, and it showed yesterday. Yeah,
Dylan also like, if you're going to.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Lose the game anyways, this on pure entertainment value, put
Jamis in there. I at least lose, like more excitingly.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, Jamis has still tried to play for something. Maybe
he gets an opportunity to be not a starter but
a backup. And you start to look at, you know,
some of these quarterback trends. You know, justin Herbert, is
he now back? You know, I mean talk about a
depleted roster, your two running backs, your two tackles. Keenan
Allen is your kind of go to guy. But I
(07:48):
mean they won, but they play really good defense. Makes
you wonder if they had those weapons, just how good
they would be. Yes, Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Look how good the charges are with Keenan Allen is healthy,
first team all when he's healthy.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, well, he has the most receptions in Chargers history.
Moved past Antonio Gates last night but watching that game,
that was less than inspiring. If you're a Steeler fan,
Colts get a big win. Comeback, The Bears gonna win. Ravens.
How about the Jets? Hey, as long as his special
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teams are going to be scoring touchdowns, they're going to
be a force to be dealt with. There. But I'm
looking at their passing numbers. Let me see if I
have so that the Jets own the three lowest net
passing yard performances this season. Now, this is where you
factor in the yardage from sacks. Fifty four passing yards
(08:46):
against the Bills, forty two against the Browns, minus ten
against the Broncos. That's I mean, statistically, it's almost impossible
in today's NFL to throw fifty four, forty two and
minus ten.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
All righty, Dylan, what's the poll question you got for me?
All right?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Well, we got a couple options then for starters right
now after this weekend? Who should be the MVP? Drake
may or Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well? Which team do you believe in? More? How about
that one? Let me start with that. Which team do
you think is Are the Patriots the best team in
the ANFC? Are the Colts? The best team in the
ANFC Denver people probably would say Kansas City just because
(09:48):
of the history here. But I'd be curious which team
does this audience think is better, the Colts or the Patriots,
because I think you're still kind of waiting for the Colts.
Are they going to come back to Earth? And it's
Danny Dimes? Where's Drake May? Drake May looks legitimate? And
(10:08):
I think because of that, they got a running game,
You've got a great coach in there, and that's a
big win on the road.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, So odds wise to win the AFC, the Chiefs
are favored plus two ninety, then Colts plus four fifty,
then Bills plus four seventy five, and then Patriots plus
seven hundred.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, it feels I mean that loss, and I know
it's recency biased with the Bills. After you beat Kansas
City and then you do that, it's like Carolina beats
Green Bay at Green Bay and then you do that
shuck around and find out with the Saints, I'm still
not sold on Bryce Love or Bryce Young, Michael Pennix
(10:54):
Junior the third. I know it's nine starts, but man,
oh man, you're just looking for progress. What do you
do well and can you continue to do that? And
I haven't seen that, And that's what that's what makes
me nervous when you go all in on a quarterback.
They spend all that money on Kirk Cousins Carolina. They
(11:16):
they wanted Bryce, they got Bryce, and even though they've
played some pretty good football, I just don't think that
he's as threatening as I would want my franchise quarterback
to be. I also think the Niners at some point
have to look at this and be realistic. Mac Jones
played well yesterday. Numbers might be a little deceiving, but
(11:37):
he's played really well. Can you get the same kind
of performance from him the rest of the year? And
at what point do you look and say, is he
better than Rock Purty? Now you pay Brock Purty fifty
million dollars. But keep in mind, I go back to
the draft and I was told Kyle Shanahan loved mac Jones.
(11:59):
And we've seen Kyle Shanahan can make just about any
quarterback better except Trey Lance. Jimmy Garoppolo got to a
super Bowl, Brock Perdy got to a Super Bowl. Who's
to think you know that maybe not this year, but
you know down the road, Mac Jones could get you
to a super Bowl. I mean, they're not a healthy
(12:20):
team right now. And they put up, you know, three
hundred yards and threw three touchdowns. But Matthew Stafford was
the star. Yeah, that's these are historical numbers here, and
he makes it look easy. And I was talking to
Paulie last week. I was like, if you would have
said whose career is going to last longer, Clayton Kershaw
(12:43):
or his grade school buddy, Matthew Stafford, I probably would
have said Clayton Kershaw is going to throw longer than
Matthew Stafford. How about that? For the you know, backyard
bragging rights Stafford and Clayton Kershaw. Whose career would you want?
Matthew Stafford or Clayton Kershaw? Both are Hall of famers.
(13:04):
You know, people were debating this over the weekend with
Matthew Stafford, and I said, you know, what he did
in Detroit easy to overlook. But I think what he's
done in Los Angeles makes you go kind if he
would have had a good team with him, I wonder
how we would have viewed him. Now. That's not fair
to everybody who plays on a good team or does
(13:26):
n't play on a good team, but you do see
what he does with a better roster, and who knew
who Puka Nakua was or Cooper Cup. He helped make
them better wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yes, Marvin, and I think any I think at NFL
MVP would definitely help Matthew Stafford's case for the Hall
of Fame more so than a Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think he's already going to be a Hall of Famer.
I do you.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Think he's like first ballot, like, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Well, I don't know if it's that. And once again,
there's what forty five writers who vote on this, But
just I think winning that Super Bowl, given the longevity,
he's going to have numbers. You know, it's different than
matt Ryan, Philip Rivers and I think, you know, even
(14:15):
Matthew Stafford with his career versus Elis, if you want
to throw that in the mix. But I think I
think Stafford's going to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Yeah, Pauly, Yeah, I mean Stafford a year ago, twenty touchdowns,
eight picks, some shoulder injuries a couple of years ago,
he's like playing with house money. Now you're just adding
a top five MVP or maybe another Super Bowl appearance
at this juncture at thirty seven thirty eight, that's how
you lock it down.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
He's the first player in NFL history with at least
four touchdown passes no interceptions in three consecutive games. Out
of the days.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Sad of the day, that best stat of the day,
stat of the day?
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Here comes that?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
What stat of the day? All right, Weston wors to
the weekend. We'll get to your phone calls. We'll settle
on a poll question for this first hour. Our Gerald
McCoy of NFL Network Fame will join us. Rick Neuheisel
will recap the college football weekend as well and some
of the potential coaching vacancies. I got some information on
(15:16):
Brian Kelly in his exit from LSU. Negotiations were going
on this weekend. Also, maybe the leading candidate for the
Penn Stagia have that for you coming up as well. Well.
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Speaker 2 (16:11):
We'll get to your phone calls as we always do
every Monday, Best and worst of the weekend. What you
saw that you liked you didn't like. Seaton is on
the road. He'll be in Indianapolis tomorrow. We'll let you know.
You can actually go out and see him in the
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he goes to Denver, and then he'll be in Vegas
and we'll be headed out there next week. So go
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Alaska and Hawaii ends eleven, twenty three, twenty five settle
on a poll question. So Jackson Dart did suffer a
concussion in the loss to the Bears. So four times
(16:54):
in seven games he has been looked at for concussion,
and of course the Giants got fined because he was
in the blue tent. Was that a week ago or
two weeks ago when Brian Dable's yelling for him to
come out of the blue tent? Bad look? And Jackson
Dart said, Hey, this is the way I'm going to play. Okay,
I would have you talk to RG three and a
(17:16):
few other of these quarterbacks who wanted to play that way.
There's only so many hits you can take. I don't
care how tough you are. But here is Brian Dabele,
the Giants head coach.
Speaker 9 (17:28):
Look, I'm not sure exactly the play that had happened,
So I'm concerned for the kid.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 9 (17:35):
I don't know the exact play that it happened for
him relative to getting hurt or not getting hurt. But
I don't know the play. I don't know when it was.
I mean, I just know that when he was going
back out there and we were sitting around a huddle.
I saw him. I got Ronnie over theres to check
him out.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, you're going to have to protect him from himself.
But you have a coaching staff that's trying to keep
their job attached themselves to the progress of Jackson Dart,
and I certainly understand that. But I'm gonna talk to
Gerald McCoy, former defensive lineman. He'll join us. When you
play against a quarterback like that, because normally there is
(18:14):
some professionalism sometimes where you can take a shot, but
you don't take a shot, or if you do, you
maybe don't take the shot that you could. Here's a
guy who is kind of asking for it, engaging in contact,
and he runs and he you know, he scores touchdowns.
I think he scored four consecutive games a rushing touchdown.
(18:37):
A lot of progress there. I just don't want a
situation like Miami has with tuatongua Ilo where you're just waiting,
just waiting for that other shoot to drop.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, Dylan Dart feels a little bit like early Josh
Allen in his career, where he was kind of getting
knocks for taking maybe unnecessary hits. And he's actually a
little bigger than Dart.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yes, Yes, a lot bigger. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Paul Jackson's dart has seven games this year, he has
seven attempts per game. He's leading the league in quarterback
rushes per game in the seven games he's been in.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, I mean this is his style is to the
way he played when he was at Old Miss. He
was aggressive. But you know you might get to a
point where you've got to sit him down. Well, you
might have to look at this and say, let's have
him for next year. Let's make sure that he is
as healthy as possible, and that'll be a tough decision,
(19:33):
certainly for that coaching staff. All Right, get some phone
calls in here. Uh David in Ohio, Hi, David, what's
on your mind today?
Speaker 10 (19:41):
It was up Dan and got the worst and best
of the weekend in that order, watching Aaron Rodgers and
my pitch per Steelers once again fall flat on their
faces in primetime against the Chargers. Being a Steelers fan
right now is like ball in the stock park. At
one minute you're surging, the next minute your portfolio is
on fire. But the best Dan, it was rewatching the
(20:02):
Dan Patrick Show on Peacock and seeing saw with that
Mark Davis Wig helped nurse the wounds from me being
a Steelers fan, So thank you, all right, David.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, Todd had to pay off his bet. He wore
Mark Davis Wig on Friday Look Good.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
Mario was like the barber because they first looked like
a Justin Bieberwig so before the show, and Paulie was
overseeing it to make sure they're cutting the bangs and
making it look more like the actual owner's hairdo.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And Mark go's in there and asked for that haircut too,
which is a little scary, Yeah, because I think growing up,
you know, sometimes your mom would cut your hair. I
know she did that when I was really young, and
I remember my sisters they would get bangs. You know,
they weren't even even I mean it was you know,
got six kids, and she's saying, yeah, I'm not. She
(20:47):
didn't have a car, so you know, we weren't going
to get a haircut at the barber shop. Just get there.
I remember sitting in a high chair and getting my
haircut by my mom in the kitchen. You're like sixteenth
year no, probably like six or seven years of age,
and then she finally just shaved all my hair off
one time, and I looked terrible, but you know, she
(21:10):
was like, well, it'll take a while for it to
grow back, and then I'll you know, cut it again. Yes, yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Mark Davis looks more like a self inflicted wound. I
can't imagine any professional barber willingly doing that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
No, but he does go in. I don't know if
he comes in with a picture and says, hey, that's
the kind of haircut mess mess.
Speaker 12 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Fam Lucas in Texas, Hi, Luke, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8 (21:39):
They dan good morning, good morning, best and worst of
the weekend? You know, I guess my best is my
Texans with their big comeback win. I don't know, Like, yes,
a nineteen point comeback win in the fourth quarter is exciting,
but also this feels just like a weird lost season,
so everyone was kind of happy. I mean, the back
(22:00):
happening in an empty stadium, and it kind of just
reflects the year they're having. I will say my worst is,
you know, we're in a new world with sports betting
and whatnot, and I just feel like the stuff with
a manual place coming out of the Guardians as just
the tip of the iceberg. I know that everyone's made
their peace with or getting in bed with all the
betting companies. But I just feel like maybe ten percent
(22:22):
of the people get caught up, and it just, you know,
to me, it kind of makes me worry about the
fundamental integrity of some of these games. If this is
really a sustain problem.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yes, it is a problem. Prop bets are a problem
because you know what happens. You live in a vacuum.
You're thinking, I'm just a pitcher with the Indians, the Guardians,
nobody's going to know. Nobody's going to know that. I'm
going to throw this pitch in the dirt and my
friends are going to bet on this, and then I
(22:52):
get a piece of that, and that's what happens. Hey
put some money down for me. Well, Vegas is monitoring
all of this because they have to. All they want
to see is is there any impropriety here? Are there
any red flags? All of a sudden, I got a
ball in my hand and I can pick up twenty
(23:13):
five thousand dollars with one pitch. Fifty thousand my friends
could make money one pitch. What could possibly go wrong
with that? I hate prop bets because of this. I
understand if you're a gambler and you love that. I've
gone to baseball games where I bet on you know,
if the pitch is a ball or strike with friends.
(23:35):
I get it, I understand it. But I just I
think all of these leagues, it's like you can't put
the toothpaste back in now. I think you got to
get away from prop bets in college because those kids
have no idea. They're like, hey, nobody's gonna know. Hey,
(23:56):
you know I'm playing at this school. No, nobody's gonna Well,
you tell one guy and then he tells another guy.
That's the problem. All of a sudden, fifteen people know
about it. Oh did you hear such and such? You
know he's going to do this? Basketball players, Hey, I
can you know a couple of turnovers? Here? What's my
over under? Oh okay, I'll definitely go under. This is
(24:20):
what happens.
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You've got baseball players, You've got a picture making six
million dollars a year, and he lives in a vacuum.
Nobody's going to know, Hey, can you send this to
my account in the Dominican Republic? All of these sports,
I mean, this is this is what you brought in
and you knew it. You know it and uh will
(24:43):
continue to have these moments. You know, Johntay Porter with Toronto,
nobody's nobody even knows he's in the league and he's
got over unders and people are making money, and he's
probably thinking nobody is going to notice this. Well, nobody
(25:05):
will notice if people don't get greedy, because you could
do those prop bets. Hey, why don't you put down
twenty five hundred on this? But if you're in Vegas
and this is what they'll tell you, they'll be like
looking at all of these things that they're like, what's
jumping out? What's jumping out? They'll take games off the
board and then all of a sudden, you go, we
(25:26):
got like seventy five thousand dollars on a pitch from
a picture in Cleveland. Ding ding ding, Ding, ding ding Ding.
That's all they're looking for is red flags. And look,
I've said this DraftKings is a sponsor of ours. I
tell you to be responsible. I gave you the numbers
(25:48):
on you know, the number of kids who are considered
addicted to gambling in New Jersey. The numbers were from
eighteen to twenty four years of age, college kids who
are betting, and then all of a sudden, you get
in and you can't get out. It's a cautionary tale.
(26:09):
And it's not that I just tell you, or you
to tell your kids or grandkids. I say this to
my son. You'll never beat them, You'll never you'll never
beat them, But if you do it in a way,
and it's you know, but nobody wants to do that.
It's like I don't want to win fifty bucks when
I can win five hundred and then all of a
(26:30):
sudden you're down five hundred five point fifty with the
big Now, I got to get that back. You know,
this is how all of this stuff works. And now
you've got players. These guys are probably going to prison, prison, prison.
This isn't sports prison where you don't get to play
for a year. It's twenty years that they face for
(26:55):
fixing a game. You know, Chauncey Billups, what role did
he play? What information did he give out? Damon Jones?
What information on Lebron?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Like?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
People find this out and its valuable, valuable information, But
I'm not surprised. I'm really now the rigged poker games
and that they had they could see x you know,
it's like X ray vision with your cart. Now that
one surprise me. Okay, I'm not surprised too often in
(27:29):
this sports world. That's where I went, Wow, And you
bring in these fish and then you take them for
millions of dollars, and there's I was told this over
the weekend by somebody who works in law enforcement that
there is a big name who got taken for over
a million dollars. He wasn't one of the guys who's
bringing in people. He was taking advantage of over a million.
(27:53):
Another guy told me teams on cross country flights, millions
of dollars would change hands playing cards. Now nothing that was,
you know, anything nefarious. These are teammates playing cards and
millions of dollars were exchanged with teammates and losing. But
(28:17):
that's why when you hear about guys who are getting
in fights, somebody gonna pull a gun on and you
know there's a lot of money involved here, Yeah, Paulin.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
The one thing though, over the past month, I've heard
a lot of people say the commissioners of the different
sports should step up and say to these different draft outlets,
betting outlets that we got to get rid of the
prop bets. But all these different places if they get
rid of prop bets, they're cutting down their own revenue drastically.
I'm looking at the Monday night football game. I'm looking
at fifty five different prop bets you could choose from tonight.
(28:48):
There's only four around the game itself, over under win, loss,
et cetera, et cetera, halftime. So if these places get
rid of prop bets, they're going to have less money
to spend on sponsoring these leagues, sponsoring the NBA, sponsoring ESPN.
It's like a cycle that I don't think can be broken.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Can you cap these? Because the Super Bowl has all
of those goofy prop bets, but they cap that of
how much you can spend. That would be the only
thing that maybe you could say, you can only bet
this amount, that's it, and then therefore you're not going
to get these big numbers. But just imagine somebody says
to his buddies, I'm going to throw this pitch in
(29:28):
the dirt. You can bet on this pitch, and then
they make money. But it's the problem is the amount
of money that's put on a pitch like that. That's
what jumps ound. Yeah, Paul, like you said.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
According to the article with the pitcher clase. It was
a random Guardians Mets game in the middle of May
twenty twenty three, nobody watching, nobody caring. One of the
over under bets was his pitch of ninety four miles
per hour. He told his friends allegedly it would be
under and they won twenty seven thousand on that one pitch.
Then another pitch ball or strike, they won thirty eight
(30:06):
thousand when he spiked it five feet in front of
the plate, and that set up the red flags.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
And you don't think anybody is going to notice who
pitches in May, Yes, Todd, But it's not just greed.
Speaker 11 (30:17):
If you get involved with the wrong people and you
think there's just a one time thing, you're just going
to do it a couple of times and whether you
realize it or not. And it's someone I don't want
to use the word mapia, but whatever you want to
call it. And now they got you, and now you're
doing things you don't want to do because now they're
going to thread to ruin your life and your career.
So it's now it's not just one time. They're going
to tell you to do it as many times they
want you to do it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, and I do believe people have probably gotten compromised
here with this NBA situation that if you owe somebody
then all of a sudden you can pay it back.
We need you to do this. You get compromised, and
certainly compromised with the Mob. And who knew. Yeah, haven't
heard anything about the Mob unless I go to, you know,
(30:56):
a family reunion on my wife's side, that's about the
Mob or the artist formerly known as the Mob, because
I always say, is it really organized crime? And then
my wife will go, don't do it. It seems like
it's disorganized crime. I don't know, that's just me. Can
I have some more pasta?
Speaker 12 (31:17):
Please?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I'll have the bragioles please, Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I think the number one rule is don't rat on
your friends, and that got broken pretty.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Frequently as it is. Gus in La, Good morning, Gus.
What's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (31:33):
You're more than mister Patriey hoping the boys had a
good weekend. Well pretty much just took the wind all
out of my wings with that one, because well the
best of my weekend. Fernanda Mendoza, I don't care what
anybody's got to say. That boy's the Heisman winner. In
my book, what a game, What a way to stamp
it there with the exclamation point at the end. That, boy,
(31:55):
to me, is a heighten winter this year, worse of
the weekend the Pittsburgh Steelers. All I'm gonna say, David
and Ohio nailed it. It is a terrible season. I
don't care what the record says. This is a bad season.
And then I was gonna say, you know, this thing
with the cheating and the gambling and everything, I mean,
I had something else I was gonna say, but that
(32:16):
all just got taken out away. But I'm now going
to say, is that is this kind of going to
go away? Because they're saying, holy crap, they're catching everybody
and everyone's going to prison or is it the next
shoe going to drop of like so and so in
the NFL has been arrested on this.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Well, I don't think it's going away. And nobody thinks
that they're going to get caught. And you know, once again,
you're pitching for Cleveland, you're facing the Mets. It's a
game in May. Who cares, but Vegas cares? And I
don't think they are prop bets for you know, when
(32:55):
you're betting offshore. If you're betting illegally, I don't think
you can do prop bets. I might be wrong, but
I don't think you can. I mean, DraftKings, fan duel,
all the like. They want you to see those those
prop bets. You know, that's that's big business for them. Yeah, Paul,
like you're saying.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Back in the day, when you bet with a legal bookie,
it was parlays and game bets. There weren't twenty five
different prop bets of how many yards in the first
quarter by blank blank?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's different. But I think if you cap it,
it can be fun. But I can't have prop bets
in college. I can't do that to college kids or
give them that temptation. Yes, dealing, what if you.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Had to parlay the props? So then it gets diffused
a little bit away from one person. See if the
parlay with someone else, you can't get to more than
one guy that easily.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I don't know if anything's going to change. I don't
I don't know, all right, you know what, Let me
take a break here. I want to get to our
play of the day. More phone calls coming up.
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here to win the AFC North the Ravens minus two ninety,
Steelers plus two sixty, and then it's the Bengals at
plus twenty eight hundred the Browns at plus twenty thousand.
Dylan Gabriel did not look good at all. I don't
know if that means that Cleveland is going to give
Shador Sanders a chance at this point. I think that
(35:49):
they should, or I hope they do, but only based
on Dylan Gabriel just not looking good and missing wide
open wide receivers. Didn't look like he was a quarterback
in NFL quarterback now he's at his moments and you
got to make some plays, but you got to hit
(36:10):
the open guy. And you know, maybe Shador Sanders is
a lot further away than anybody wants to believe. But
if he's your backup quarterback or Bailey Zappi, then put Bailey.
Bailey Zappi is a better quarterback than Dylan Gabriel probably
right now. He's got experience, he's been in NFL offenses.
Put him in there. If not, then give Shador Sanders
(36:33):
a chance.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Here.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
A couple more phone calls in here, Chris and Syracuse Hi, Chris,
what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Hey?
Speaker 13 (36:40):
Thanks a lot of dance. Hey, I'm going to veer
off of my best and worst because I know you
got other callers and we're up against it at the
top of the hour, you know. But you were talking
last segment about in the Mafia being involved in this
gambling stuff, which you hear all over the place, especially lately,
and I've always been curious. We're so sad sensitive now
(37:00):
to like the Redskins, the Indians, not just the sports
but everywhere in the term Bill's Mafia. Unless I'd missed it,
I've never heard any blowback against it. And I'm one
hundred percent of Italian and I couldn't care less, but
I find it fascinating, again, unless I missed it, that
there's not even a little blowback, because that's kind of
(37:20):
universally used now and even a lot of commentators use it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, I don't even think of it. I mean, we
romanticize the Mafia. When you watch movies that have, you know,
Mafia in it, you find yourself rooting for the Mafia.
It feels like like the bad guys and you're kind
of rooting for them. It's weird, but No, I don't
get caught up in Bill's mafia.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yes, Mormon, and I don't think the Italian community has
ever said you called this to what the mafia?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
What?
Speaker 12 (37:53):
Yeah, Dylan just rename it the Bill's Costinostra. Let's go
legit with it. That might draw some attention. That one might.
Zach and Knoxville, Good morning, Zach. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 7 (38:09):
ADP?
Speaker 8 (38:09):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Just a quick question.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
I don't know if you have enough time to get
to it.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
This hour, but I know how you are about giving
running back to second or even third contract. Then, with
Daniel Jones looking to get a contract from the Colts,
would you sign Jonathan Taylor up he is under contract
through next year.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yes, but I would probably wait till the end of
this year. I don't like jumping the gun, but that
might be one of those where, you know, maybe you
give him a three year deal. I don't want to
give a running back second contract and it's five years,
three years, but I'm gonna pay you top end dollar.
(38:53):
I'm gonna pay you commensurate to what you're gonna do.
I mean, he's been he's been great, and you talk
talk about running backs make moves in really small like boxes.
It just feels like and Taylor had a move that
he scored a touchdown where it's just one move and
(39:14):
there's a defender right in front of you. He doesn't
even get a hand on you that ability, and he
does something that Le'Veon Bell did really really well, and
that is he waits, He kind of glides a little
bit to the left or right, and then that offensive
line has been really good and then he just hits
the hole. Le'Veon Bell did that. Le'Veon Bell changed running backs.
(39:37):
You know that style where he's just kind of drifting, drifting, boom,
and you see that with Jonathan Taylor. But Jonathan Taylor
has track speed, Like that's the difference. When he goes,
he's gone.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
Yeah, Pauli Taylor also has zero fumbles this year. He's
making fifteen million this year, fifteen million next year, relatively
a bargain. He signed his second contract two years ago
for a three year, forty five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
You yeah, but I don't know if it's a bargain
because it's still fifteen million at that position. Now, do
I consider him their most valuable player? I do? And
it's like Saquon Barkley with Danny Dimes. It's not a
case of Saquon needed Danny Dimes. Danny Dimes needed Saquon.
Jonathan Taylor and maybe the Colts have their their quarterback
(40:21):
and their running back. But you know, given five years
to a running back, I don't care what kind of
year he has. And you see the mileage that it's
really hard. Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley, you have those incredible years.
It's really hard to replicate that. And I remember where
the over under for Derrick Henry was like, I don't know,
(40:43):
twelve hundred yards or something, and people are like, oh
my god, I thought he's going to run for two thousand.
I'm like, no, you only have so many carries. Your
body has only so many carries. We'll talk some football.
Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst, and Rick Neuheisel. Did Fernanda
Mendoza win the Heisman with one play this past weekend?
(41:04):
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for you as well. More phone calls. We will give
you our best and worst of the weekend. One hour
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