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Good morning, those watching the show on Peacock or listening
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Fox Sports Radio. Well check in with the Kansas City
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Chiefs coming up in about twenty minutes from now. You know,
I look at NFL training camp. No news is good
news for me because you can get guys who say, oh,
shardor Sanders yesterday completed X number of passes and didn't
throw any interceptions. Okay, Deshaun Watson through two interceptions. Okay,
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Patrick Mahomes looking good.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Usually what happens in training camp is the news that
emerges is bad news. Somebody got hurt or you might
have somebody holding out or holding in. Jamir Gibbs and
Bijon Robinson, and this is interesting to watch for me
because we'll get to the salaries here in a moment.
But they're not the traditional running back, and it wasn't
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that long ago. Running back was the NFL's toughest place
to cash in. But Gibbs and Robinson gives place for Detroit,
Robinson for Atlanta. These guys are chess pieces and they'll
be up there for the offensive player of the year.
But the timing is interesting for both of these players
because whichever player signs first is going to establish the market.
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Saquon Barkley is the highest paid running back I think,
at around nineteen million dollars, but these two are waiting,
and the waiting game is going to be worth millions
the Lions and Falcons. You want to get a deal
done obviously as soon as possible. The earlier you get
a deal done, the cheaper the contract becomes. Because if
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Gibbs signs first, Jon Robinson's going to say, well, I
want more than what he's getting, and he might have
every right to be able to do that. But these
holdouts or hold ins are really interesting. With these two
players at that position highest paid running backs going into
this season. Saquon Barkley is at twenty point six, Christian
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McCaffery nineteen million, Devon a Chan sixteen million, Bresee Hall
makes fifteen point two, Derrick Henry fifteen Kenneth Walker can
I makes fourteen point three. These players are probably going
to be in that twenty million dollar range.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I would think.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I don't know if they make more than Saquon Barkley,
but they're going to come pretty close to that. So
NFL news training camp news, the best news I can
get is there's no news out of camp because somebody's
gonna say, hey, that rookie looks good. Okay, you might
be looking good at the end of July. I want
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you looking good September, October, November, December. Even with Patrick Mahomes,
you know, you can see him moving around a little bit,
you know, another month.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
That's what I'm really curious about.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
How he's going to be them What I care about
now and This is why I want to check in
with the Kansas City Chiefs is you can be running
around anybody who's had surgery, knee surgery. It's not the
running around, it's the day after the running around, and
that's when you want to know if they're swelling, if
you know there's still inflammation in there. Patrick Mahomes isn't
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running away from anybody who trying to hit him, at
least not now.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's what I care about. But you know, the.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Chiefs are interesting. Get your offensive line back healthy, Canine
comes in. This is the first time they've invested in
a running back. They had Edwards Hilaire. Remember that that
was a luxury pick and I thought, damn, the Kansas.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
City Chiefs did it again.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I think, last pick of the first round, and you go, yep,
we got him, and I go, oh man, they've got
their Christian McCaffrey. Not exactly, and then you find Pacheco
didn't pay him. But the Chiefs are still fascinating. Kelsey
comes back. I think if you're Kelsey, you're going to
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come back. If you know Mahomes is going to be
ready to go week one, I don't think you want
to come back and go, wait a minute, is he
going to be out the first month and Justin Fields
is going to beat Now that's a luxury. I think
Justin Fields because you have to prepare for that kind
of quarterback. But Kelsey, I don't know about Rice Worthy.
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Were these one of those guys? Man?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
He can fly, Kenny.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Cat Kenny, Kenny run routes.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
There's a lot of guys who can fly. What do
you like?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Tyreek Hill could fly and he could also run, you know, routes.
So you know, I look at Kansas City. You know, defensively,
are they going to be imposing? Because their last Super
Bowl they led with their defense. That's why I wanted
to check in with Kansas City didn't win the division
last year.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Denver did.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And it's hard to count anybody, you know, any team
that has Patrick Mahomes on it. But when you're coming
back from knee surgery, you automatically favor it. And what
happens sometimes and quarterbacks have talked about this. Tom Brady
talked about that with me a long time ago when
he blew out his knee against Kansas City. You're always
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thinking of or seeing or think you're seeing or feeling
people around your feet, because if you're out on your own,
you're okay. It's guys getting close to you and you
can't help but think consciously or subconsciously. That'll be the
big hurdle for Mahomes. Get that out of your head.
Are you still able to plant? You're able to have
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the same motion. Now he's different because he's like Aaron Rodgers.
These aren't your seven step back plant fire. They're constant
moving front foot, back foot, side, you know delivery. And
I think with Mahomes so a little bit different. Brady
was your drop back passer, you know, back plant, you know,
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and then follow through. Mahomes is not. But we'll follow
We'll check in with the Kansas City Chiefs to follow
up on Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yes, Marvin, is Mahomes more likely to win MVP or
Comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I would say comeback Player of the Year, But I
don't know who he'd be up against. I'm sure there
are other guys who went through, you know, Jaden Daniels
would be up there as well.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, Dyling, I've got.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
The comeback player of your odds if you'd like well.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Of course, Patrick Mahomes the heavy favorite plus one eighty five,
followed by Jaden Daniels plus four fifty, then Kyler Murray
plus five point fifty.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Okay, when did he come back from the Cardinals? Oh? Okay, Fairport,
I have Super Bowl odds.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
We're still waiting for Aaron Donald to show up at
rams camp.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And I had somebody tell me.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yesterday who works with the NFL, And I said, what
do you think about Aaron Donald? He goes, would you
go to training camp if you're Aaron Donald?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And I go no.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
He goes, exactly, You're just gonna go. You're gonna wait
as long as you can.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You don't have to. Now, you have to get in shape.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You have to get in football shape, and that's different
than just regular shape. But it seems like Aaron Donald
has kind of maintained his NFL body A lot of times.
You'll see these guys like Joe Thomas of the Cleveland Browns,
he lost fifty pounds. These guys they shed that weight
they have to when they get older. But with Aaron Donald,
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you're not showing up for training camp, not until you
have to. And you know, my point is, you're overwhelming
favorites to win the Super Bowl without you. Now maybe
DraftKings is factoring that in that Aaron Donald is going
to play. You are the overwhelming favorite. And if you're
Aaron Donald, I know you pick off eight million bucks
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or ten million bucks. I don't know what they're going
to offer him. You get to play forty plays, rotational player. Hell,
if you want to play home games, I'm fine with that.
All I want you is ready for the postseason. That's it.
Regular season. You can kind of get in shape as
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we go along. But here are the odds. Rams plus
five point fifty. Then it's the Bills at plus one thousand.
Whenever he had a disparity between first and second with
the odds, I mean, that seems like a pretty big disparity, Dylan,
I don't know if we could check in on that.
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But Rams plus five point fifty, Bills plus one thousand,
Ravens plus one thousand. They didn't make the playoffs last year.
Then it's the Super Bowl champion Seahawks. Then it's the Eagles,
Patriots and Chiefs. Eagles, Patriots and Chiefs plus sixteen hundred
Rams are big favorites in a division with the defending
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Super Bowl champs. He tried to say, yeah, Seahawks plus
eleven hundred, then the Eagles, Patriots, and Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
Yes, Paully, this feels like a little bit of a
slight to the Seahawks. They didn't Yeah, they didn't get
lucky last year, fourteen wins. They outscored their opponents by
one hundred and ninety one points for the season. That's
the best in football.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
They didn't sneak in Yeah, yeah, I know. Bulletin board,
I guess I love that.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Do you think they actually have that? Like, is there
a locker room in the NFL that has a bulletin
board and uses anti media sentiment and puts it up there?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
We can ask Ross Tucker when he joins Ross will
join us coming up next hour?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Yes, Dylan, Yeah, where are the thumbtacks? Someone just wrote
a mean article about it. The Rams plus five fifty
is sort of in the same ballpark of like.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
The Chiefs of a few years ago preseason.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Where they're like plus five six hundred, and then there's
always a little bit of a gap between, like it
would be like the Ravens at plus a thousand or something.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
O cut all right, eh seven seven to three DP
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Dylan Pole question for hour one.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Well, Dan, worse injury these days from a recovery standpoint,
Achilles tear, acl terror, Tommy John because I know we've
seen a big shift in all of the and it
always felt like Achilles tear was like the most catastrophic.
But I mean, like you've seen guys like Aaron Rodgers
come back crazy quick.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well Jason Tatum, Jason Tatum came back, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Now it's like an eight nine month period to be
able to come back. But the key is to get
surgery right away. It always drive me crazy where somebody
got hurt and then they would wait, like, you know,
six weeks to get surgery. Now, I know you have
to have this swelling to go down. But I think
Shack did that one year. Didn't he wait to get
surgery at the start of a season?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
You remember, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Know what year that was a lot of criticisms. Yeah, rightfully,
So get the surgery done. Get this surgery done. With
the achilles. It's still knees are the easiest to come
back from. I mean they've mastered that. But the Achilles
and the Tommy John both were career ending injuries now,
I mean, Tommy John, They've got that down to a science.
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We're just learning the process of the Achilles surgery.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
That was February of two thousand and three with Shack
he had a toe issue. Oh yeah, big toes h.
He delayed his toe surgery, caught a lot of criticism.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, but guys don't want to come back and go
through the monotony, especially with training camp. But if you're injured,
dinged up a little bit trying to come back, just
how it feels where you're out there running, because you
can try to simulate playing in a game you can't.
Mahomes isn't going to know until he knows till we
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see it.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Yes, Dylan, Well, I remember when Adrian Peterson taurs ACL
and came back in like nine months and everyone was
like this is unheard of.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Well, didn't he blow out both of them? Was it
just one?
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I think it was just one?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Okay, Jack, Okay, Now I don't know why I thought
that he did both of them.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yes, Mark, and then the Chiefs first game is a
division game against the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, but I got to look at the entire season.
It's not, Hey, let's go out there and let everybody
know we're still the class of the e FC West.
I don't need it. There's no Bradon. You don't win
anything winning that first week. You want to make sure
he's comfortable at going out there. And I think, you know,
Andy Reid knows this, Mahomes knows this. He's not putting
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Patrick out there unless Mahomes says, I'm good to go.
Although Mahomes is said, hey, I'm going to be running
less now he's going to be under center a little
bit more.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
So, I'm just curious how the offense looks.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And I think the days of him throwing for forty
touchdowns are over because defense is realized we're going to
let you move the ball down the field. We're not
letting you throw home runs. And he doesn't really. I mean,
Tyreek Hill is a Hall of Fame, you know, he
kind of forced these defenses to be like, we're going
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to be deep center field, keep everything in front of us.
You got Worthy who's a deep threat in theory, but
he's not Tyreek Hill. Rice can be very talented, but
it feels like the defense is all kind of colluded
to How do you stop Kansas City. You make them
move the ball, you know, kind of methodically, a little
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bit more than normal.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Yeah, Pauling Rashi Rice is fantastic, but you just worry
about him when he leaves facility. Oh yeah, like Sunday,
he's fantastic. The other days of the week, what are
we doing.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I would have the tracking device on his phone, you know,
like I have with my wife and she has with me.
You know, once he leaves the stadium, that's where I
want to know where Rashee Rice is going to be?
All right, settle on a poll question phone calls coming up.
Check in with the Kansas City Chiefs. Ross Tucker has
some strong opinions on the quarterbacking situation with the Cleveland
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Speaker 2 (16:08):
We just brought up Taysom Hill the other day and
I saw where I guess he's not going to play
for the Saints this year. Why we bringing up Taysom
Hill a couple of days ago, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
We were talking about college quarterbacks who played other positions
in the pros or didn't Antoine Randall.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Ell and those guys, Okay, Terrelle pryor yeah, Eric Crouch. Yeah,
So Taysom Hill and the Saints are parting ways. I
read the article. I'm not quite sure what's going on
with Taysom Hill, but spent ten years. Is he retiring?
Maybe he goes to Denver. Maybe Sean Payton takes him back.
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Eight seven to seven to three DP show email address
Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle it DP show. Jesse Nowll covers,
the chiefs beat writer for the Athletics on the program.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Jesse, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
If I ask his six months ago, would you think
that Patrick Mahomes would be ready for week one?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You would have said what.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I would have.
Speaker 10 (17:12):
Said, perhaps maybe more so than any other guy we
would have known coming in the NFL, just with his
competitiveness and we know from him that, hey, this guy
has had his kneecap on the side of his knee
before and come back in two weeks. But the progress
he's made still has been surprising. And the fact that
he's out there and team drills eleven one eleven's jumping
up and down. I think it's further than anybody could
have anticipated.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, they And this might be a situation you almost
have to protect him from himself, like he might have
to learn how to play the position differently.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'm sure he can do it, but you know, he
extends plays, he'll use his legs. But is there a
concerted effort to change how Mahomes is going to be
playing this year?
Speaker 10 (17:54):
Yeah, I think there's a couple of things. And I
mentioned this recently in a piece. I've seen more under
center from the Chiefs this preseason camp training camp. I
know it's early, but you get Kenneth Walker, you potentially
want to use your interior three of Kings Lisomatia, Creed
Humphrey and Tray Smith to get more downhill in the
run game. And we hear so much about take pressure
off batter Mahomes. We turn around and hand the ball
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off to Kenneth Walker, that's one way to do it.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And then it's interesting.
Speaker 11 (18:18):
You know.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
We talked to Patrick when he first got here to
Saint Joseph, and I asked him, I said, what's one
thing you want to improve on this year? You have
to have better this year. And the first thing he
said was get the ball out of my hands quicker.
And I think you've seen this progression from quarterbacks over time.
Tom Brad's a great example is, Hey, as I become older,
as I'm not as mobile as I once was, how
can I recreate myself? How can I re envision myself
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to do something little bit different? And when Patrick was
at his best last year, even when he could scramble,
he was at his best when he was pepper and guys,
you know, short time to throw. And so I think
he's making concerned effort this year ago. I know I
can't be Superman every play. I've got to let the
offense work for me. And so I think that is
something you'll see with the Chiefs offense. And like I said,
when they've done it before, it's worked out really well.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
But is he going to be more brady like? I
don't know.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
I mean he's thirty, so he's not forty yet. And
obviously Brady played so long into his career, but maybe
Rogers is another example too, where you see these guys
and all of a sudden, you've got to figure out
how to maneuver within yourself. And Patrick gave an interesting answer.
He was asked about how he'll feel good or comfortable
and how you get over these injuries mentally, and he said,
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a couple of years ago, when he had that kneecap incident,
you know where I was on the side of his
and he came back in two weeks. He said, the
Tennessee Game game. The Tennessee game when he came back,
and he made a jump throw in that game that
was on all his highlight reels. It looked really cool,
and he goes, yeah, that might have looked cool, but
I was doing that to try to figure out how
to work around my knee and to be comfortable with it.
And so I think so much of this right now
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for him is figuring out the comfort level. In rookie minicamp,
he was here and going through with rookies, but man,
you could see him pull up that brace and tug
at it and kind of adjusted and make sure that
the thing was right. But you know how much of
this is going to be to get it off of
his mind to be able to play freely. I think
that's so much. And he said a couple days ago,
Patrick said, this is something'm gonna have to not only
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play with this year, but further years into my career.
So it does make me wonder if this is kind
of a pivot point for his career where Hey, he
wanted to be Superman, he wanted to do the perpendicular
parallel throws and the super Bowl, he wanted to make
all these plays in scrambling. But maybe this is the
moment where he has to be a different quarterback and
manage the offense better and become a more productive version
of himself while maybe doing a little bit less.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, and I'm wondering about the timing of this though, Jesse,
because you open up with Denver and you got a
divisional game. I want Mahomes for the season. I don't
care about winning that opening week. And I don't know
who makes this decision, Like is Andy Reid making the
decision or is Patrick Mahomes going to make the decision.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
It's a good question.
Speaker 10 (20:51):
I think the thing that might be comforting for the Chiefs.
Out there is Dan Cooper, who is the team athletic
trainer to the surgery, is from the Dallas Cowboy. Patrick
told us that he got cleared two days before rookie
Mini camp here and had to go through a bunch
of exercises drills to basically show his strength with the leg.
And so we know he's superhuman when it comes to rehab,
when it comes to getting back all of those particular things.
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But the fact that there's an outside entity here that
said you're clear to do this thing and you're ready
to go. But you're right, Dan, I mean, he's competitive,
He's gonna want to be out there, and I part
of me too is just like, if he is cleared,
then why would you stop him? Denver's an important game
for these Chiefs, And if you have come off of
three straight Superwle appearances, maybe the first game isn't that important.
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They're coming off of six and eleven all of a sudden,
This sort of dynasty talk is that are the Chiefs,
you know who they used to be. That's a little
bit more up in the air, I think than what
past years would be. So getting off to goods are
will be important. So I hear you they have eyes
on him every day in practice. Obviously those things, but
I think there is at least in the back of
your mind you're thinking, is Patrick Mahomes pushing this whole
thing forward? The fact there's other outside doctors available and
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they're watching him every play. I think I can provide
some comfort. And if he's available to play and there's
really no he's to hold him out, he is going
to have to play differently though, and find a way
to protect himself like he did in that Tennessee game.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Jesse Nole covers the chiefs beat writer for the Athletic
Travis Kelsey coming back for one more season. How was
that decision attached to Mahomes's availability availability this season in
any way, shape or form.
Speaker 10 (22:25):
I do think so. And again we're around Travis. He
was sort of the last man standing last year where
they were down to their third quarterback. You know, they're
going through really difficult time offensively, and I think those
guys are so close. We know, and for Travis, you
talk about competitiveness to go out on a year where
you were six and eleven, you missed the playoffs and
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your last completed pass you would be from Chris Oladokin.
I just think in his mind that's not the way
to go out. And so, yeah, he looked great yesterday
he caught a passing traffic between two linebackers. Andy Reid
was so happy with him, he made a joke he said, yeah,
Travis is in great shape. He did a lot of
dancing at his wedding. So when you hear Andy Reid
jokes like that, you know that he did come back
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in good shape. But we've seen some photos out there
from a social media where he worked out in Florida
to get himself ready and sort of last year really
rededicated himself to get himself in better shape because he
is going to turn thirty seven, and tight ends usually
are not productive at this stage in their career. So
I think there is, though, dan an aspect to that
you're talking about, which is like, is this the way
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I want to envision my career ending. Something very interesting
to note as well he's talked about this is meeting Taylor.
Being with Taylor Swift, they talk about their goal aspirations
and what they want to accomplish. And I think the
fact that she continues to you know, do things differently
and re evolve herself. The fact he's looking at an
it going football is my life. He's talked about being
out here at Saint Joseph, Missouri as being his sanctuary
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for football, and so I think at least one more
year to do that and to be able to do
the thing he's loved for so long and that's become
the part of his life that it's really going to
be difficult to give up. I think that plays into
this as well.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Are you allowed to add come out the wedding.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
We haven't had him yet. I'm sure in a week
or two he will be asked about the wedding, but yeah,
we're allowed to. It just depends on their sponse. You're
gonna get and maybe the eye rolls are going to
get in the media room as well. But it's a
very interesting dynamic. I mean, it's you know, I did
not envision getting into this job in sports journalism and
thinking I'd be interviewed by Vanity Fair.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
You know, to be quoted.
Speaker 10 (24:25):
Because the biggest story since you know, Joe Demaggio and
Marilyn Monroe is has become Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.
So there is a different dynamic here. You know, the
photographers show up two hours earlier or down and getting
their you know, camera set up in the hallways because
you know, you never know who's gon to show up
to a Chiefs game, and obviously this has become a
celebrity event for many of these contests.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
All right, I'll give you the first question. What would
it be about the wedding?
Speaker 10 (24:50):
About the wedding?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (24:52):
Oh man, now you got me unprepared here, which is
what I shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
How about this? How about this? What was better getting
married or winning the Super Bowl? Oh?
Speaker 10 (25:05):
You know, you want to talk about putting somebody in
a no win situation in beautiful Saint Joseph, Missouri and
Missouri Western's campus. Yeah, definitely could do that. But yeah,
the crazy part about all this as you to Dan
like all of the secretiveness around it, and then you
hear some stories and you want to believe them, but
you're not sure because of what's happened. So this really
is a different dynamic. To cover the Chiefs. You sometimes
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think you're, hey, just covering an NFL team, but all
of a sudden you're to hit it by texts from
friends going are you in New York today by chance?
And no I'm not, but we will get for their details.
I'm sure down the line you didn't get invited, did you.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I did not.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
I'm not disappointed, and I would not invite me if
I was hit either.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So great stuff. Thanks for joining us. Jesse, Hey, Dan,
appreciate it. That's Jesse Nowle. He works for the Athletic
covering the Chiefs. Yeah, you got to ask him questions.
It's weird to have so much build up, so many people,
so many big name people, and nobody's allowed to talk
about this. I was talking to Kevin Fraser from Entertainment
tonight and I said, what did you hear about the wedding?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
He goes, hey, bro, I can't tell you anything.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Even if I know something, I can't Taylor's pr people, No,
you cannot mess with them.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And I go, what what can't you like? What happened there? Okay?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
What kind of more dervs did you have? Did they
they have a signature drink? What'd the cake look like?
I it's weird that you're not allowed to talk about this,
but everybody, you know, a thousand people were there, and
then you talk to a couple of them.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You're like, I can't say anything. I go, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You're not going to get invited to the next marriage?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Like, what's going on here? Yes, Dylan, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
I truly could not care less anything about the wedding,
but I would be fascinated to know what the food
spread was.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Like, I'd be fine with it. I mean, you know,
just give me a little bit.
Speaker 12 (26:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Wait, what was so unique? What did it look like?
I don't know. I mean, okay.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I was talking to Jason Kelsey when we were in
Tahoe and I said, hey, would you come on the
show and smash Todd with a cake? And he goes, yeah,
I heard about the bet. You know that Todd lost.
He didn't think my brother was going to get married.
And I said, yeah, would you just come on. All
you need to do is come on with the wedding
cake that we have and smash him in the face.
He said, I don't want to bring any more attention
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to the wedding, and I go, okay, I respect that.
So we started talking a little bit and I said,
did you cry? He said, yeah, he goes, I didn't
cry at my own wedding. He goes, I cried it that,
and then I go, wait a minute. He didn't say,
don't tell anybody that, but here I'm it's like I'm
(27:51):
trying to get information, you know, like this is Pentagon
papers or Watergate or something like. All right, I don't
want anybody to see me talking to you. Jason Kelsey
was the most popular athlete former athlete there in Tahoe
because you had regular people who were interested, and then
(28:12):
you had the teenage girls, who of course are Taylor
Swift fans. He had a large, large gallery following him. Now,
Steph Curry always does, Charles Barkley always does Jason Kelcey.
I was surprised at that, but it's a you know,
a whole new audience. You got the podcast obviously everything
with his brother. He's a funny guy. Works on the
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mother Ship, Yes, dealing.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I was walking back from the clubhouse to set and
during tiwn As while they're doing like the practice round,
and Jason Kelsey was coming across one of the crosswalks
and I was like, there's like enough what looked like
secret service members. I was like, this must be the
president or something. I was like, that seems like overkill
and then he got over to the tea box. It's like,
that's not overkill at all. Literally, everyone at this tournament
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is here.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, they were there screaming, you know, and I kept thinking,
who these girls screaming? I thought Harry Styles or somebody
showed up and you hear like boy bands screaming from
these teenagers, and I go Jason Kelsey. Yeah, wasn't he
up forst Sexiest Man of the Year as well? Was
(29:21):
that last year the year before? Pretty good run for
a guy who played center. Yes, Marvin, itels like a
perfect storm. His brother married Taylor Swift and he was
a part of the most famous or infamous football player
of the past three seasons.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, which was a touch push.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Simone Biles said that Avril Levine stole her sunglasses at
the wedding.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
That sounds like a made up story.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
So now she said that Avril Levine accidentally walked off
with the sunglasses, and Simone Biles is reaching out to
Apple Levine. He was a skater boy, said see you later, boy,
and she would like to get her sunglasses back. So
just an accident, but are we allowed to talk about
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that as well? At the wedding yes, time.
Speaker 13 (30:14):
Unless they look just like yours. Why how could you
accidentally take someone's sunglasses? Usually they're kind of unique. No,
sunglasses are really exactly the same. I don't know how
you could just put it in your pocket or walk
off with them without making sure they belong to you.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
So maybe h Avril Levine tried to steal this.
Speaker 11 (30:32):
I don't know. I don't want to call it.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Are you Are you accusing Avril Levine?
Speaker 13 (30:36):
I'm hinting at it without just coming right out and
saying it, But like you got to check to make
sure those that's your property.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
You know?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Some oone Biles said that Avril Levine accidentally walked.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Off with them and she would like to get them back.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Yes, Mark, Why can't we talk about the wedding you
didn't sign an nda?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Oh no, I'm talking about other people if they're allowed
to talk about this. Yeah, And hey, if I get information,
I'm addition, I'm giving you the tea. I'm telling you
what went on there. I just can't get anybody to
tell me stuff. And one person who did goes, you
can't say it on the show, and I go, well,
why not?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
You can't say it on the show.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I said, then don't tell me this stuff because if
you tell me, I'm the conduit to my audience. Maybe
that's why I didn't get invited. They knew that I
would blab. I wouldn't be able to hold back, that wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yes, Mark has the combination of the Chiefs success and
Taylor Swift. Have they become one of those national teams Allah,
the Steelers, the Cowboys, the forty nine Ers, the Raiders,
no matter where they go they have fans.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, I think so. But I think there's fatigue. I
think there's Chiefs fatigue with all of this, certainly with
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey and that they were winning.
Now there was Patriot fatigue, you know, when they're winning
and a Tom and then then there's Giselle, you know.
So we spend so much time on the NFL, and
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if you have other ingredients to throw in there besides
a great team, then yeah, they'll be fatigue.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yes, Todd, I know they had.
Speaker 14 (32:15):
To sign this disclosure thing and they can't talk about it,
But would anybody really for a couple of that popular
and well liked, well loved say anything critical Like I
can't believe Taylor would wear that dress.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
The pasta was swimming in vodka.
Speaker 13 (32:27):
Sas was inedible, Like what would you say, like the criticize,
how many balloons and flowers do you need?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Ridiculous?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I don't know if people would be critical. They're just
sharing information.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
The gossipy things that they rather like. Now, you're looking
at the negative side of this shocker.
Speaker 13 (32:41):
But if it was positive things, that's great.
Speaker 14 (32:43):
But if they're all asked to sign something, they're worried
about something getting out, that's nobody's business that they saw
there or heard there.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, but once again, you're looking at the negative aspect.
I'm just saying, tell me some of the give me
the feel of what it was like. You took over
Madison Square Garden. What did it look like? How did
you make it intimate? I mean, this isn't a local
church where I got married in Manhattan.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, Pauline, Yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Be down Budsman here with Fritzi. I don't know that
they had to sign NDAs, but this is a different
level of celebrity wedding. This is a worldwide feeding frenzy
that people wanted information, so they probably recommended to their
guests what happens here, stays here, and we'd appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah, yeah, deal, it.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Does feel very mob asked where they're like, we don't
need to specifically tell you not to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Just no, you won't be invited to anything else ever again.
Speaker 13 (33:34):
Yes, but you can talk about something that might have
gotten stolen from you at the party.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Well jokingly, jokingly, jokingly, accidentally, somebody stole that doesn't have
anything to do with the wedding, and it happened, Yeah,
but it didn't have anything to do with the actual wedding.
Speaker 13 (33:50):
I just don't know why you would even have to
suggest to any of the patrons, like, don't say anything
if you overhear something or you don't like the presentation
of the curtains or the chandelier or something.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
She is, she's the biggest celebrity in the world.
Speaker 13 (34:02):
I know Oprah did that with everyone that worked on
her show. That I know for a fact because I
know someone that worked that way.
Speaker 14 (34:06):
You can't say anything, you know what goes on behind
the scenes at all, and you got to sign something
about that.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, but that's smart.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
If I was Oprah or Ellen or any of these people,
I mean, I can't do it. Hey, there's stuff that
I wouldn't want people knowing that happened.
Speaker 11 (34:24):
Here.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
We've already told the whole bunch of people's stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
That's the show.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Though, yes, l Allen would have killed for a few
more signed ds.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Oh my goodness, man, did that happen? Quickly? They turned
on her, the queen of mean, And I'm like, wait,
what happened? I thought Ellen was you know everybody loved Ellen.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yes, Martin, maybe you should have had to sign DA's
because when people say, oh, how's Dan, I was like,
I'm gonna tell you how he greets me every morning?
And then I can't repeat what you what you say
to us, but maybe you should.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Well you can't spell Dan without the letters NDA bloop.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I don't know what that means. I don't know what
that means. Yeah, how about we take.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
A break here.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Ross Tucker will join us. He's already got his starting
quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. I think Ross Tucker went
to the wedding. Can we even confirm that Ross Tucker
went to the wedding?
Speaker 13 (35:20):
I don't even know if you can go that ball.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
He just canceled.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, he's from Taylor Swift's hometown. I think he got invited,
and you know, Todd asked him if he got invited.
Am I allowed to ask him about the wedding? That's
great now, all r Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Like when you drive into that town, is it home
of Taylor Swift and it's twenty by twenty? Then also
Ross Tucker.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Well, he's also buddies with Jason Kelsey too, so he's
got the two fold both sides of the coin.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
But I think he got invited, all right, So he'll
join us in about a half hour from now. We'll
take a break, update our pull results, phone calls on
the way as well.
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Chad in Ohio, Hi Chad, good morning. What do you
have for me?
Speaker 11 (37:30):
A ri Dan? How we doing? First time a long time?
I've send one sixty.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 11 (37:39):
I had a theory on the hush hush on the
Taylor swift out of Chelsea wedding.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
If you wanted to hear it, sure, I have.
Speaker 11 (37:50):
A theory that everybody's being hush hush because who was there,
Adam Saylor, who's out of sailor. I have a deal
with Netflix. What if they're going to do a documentary
on the wedding and they don't want people to talk
about it.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
What more you know?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Sure, Chad?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I mean I'll have to ask Adam Sandler since he
officiated the wedding.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
But I don't know if they.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Need the publicity that's right when people they would get
so upset. When Taylor Swift showed up at a Chiefs game,
she didn't say, all show up, but you have to
show me on camera at least five times?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Please? She showed up.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
The networks are the ones who showed her. Oh look
at her. She's not really a Chiefs fan. What's she
doing here? I'm like plame CBS and Taylor Swift there,
Caitlin Clark there, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
And not showing Taylor Swift will be irresponsible of the
TV networks. If the biggest star on earth is there,
you show her on TV?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Brian in New Jersey, what do you have for me? Brian?
Speaker 12 (39:02):
Mister Patrick, how are you? And the boys just want
to thank you before anything for the levity you bring
into our lives while the advice you give.
Speaker 11 (39:10):
But w n B A.
Speaker 12 (39:12):
I was never involved in women's basketball, girls basketball till
I got into the high school coaching ranks. I've been
a four year women's coach and the w NBA. There's
just so much ineptitude. And I don't know if you
saw the video or the guys told you. Page Becker's
Angel Reese on camera four hundred dollars exchange on a
bet for the All Star Game and the w n
(39:34):
B A reposted that this morning, So something's got to
be done. It's absolutely awful how the.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
League is run.
Speaker 12 (39:42):
Uh, the Sophie Cunningham stuff with the owner the other night,
it's just I think we said an SEC sitcom on Housewives.
There's so much drama and just wild nature in that
w NBA. We should have a sitcom with that.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Look, I've said what I've had to say about Kathy
Engelbert WNBA, and I would love to challenge analysts and
host the next time you talk about the WNBA, can
you talk about the WNBA and not include the name
Kitlin Clark or just on the court stuff, because that's
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what it feels like. The WNBA is all about, no
matter what it is, no matter what the topic is,
bring in Caitland Clark because if you do that, you're
going to get clicks. I mean we've done it on
the show. We've seen people are interested in Kitlin Clark.
I get it. But for the league to grow, it
has to grow where you actually care about the rest
(40:38):
of the league. You can't just focus on Tiger Woods.
That's not what was best for the PGA Tour. Everybody
has to benefit. We have to talk about other players
and other teams. It's not going to happen anytime soon
because Caitlin Clark moves the needle. But next time somebody
(40:59):
talks about the WNBA, listen and tell me if they
talk about the WNBA without using the name Caitlin Clark.
Update the pull results from the first hour. Ross Tucker
was at the wedding. He said he can't he can't
talk about the wedding, but he has a funny store.
He'll join us coming up in a half hour from now.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Yes, Dylan worst injury these days from a recovery standpoint,
Achilles tear, acl tair or Tommy John Achilles running away
with it.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
At sixty six.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Percent, who's in the confessional on Peacock Dylan is believe
I am okay. If you're watching Peacock, thank you for
downloading the app. One hour in the books, two more
to go, eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler
sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Ross Tucker, our
good buddy. I missed him, I was thinking yesterday. I
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haven't talked to him in a while, and he already
has an opinion on who he thinks the Browns quarterback
should be this up coming season.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Hour two right after this