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Cabs beat the Pistons as Detroit melts down in the
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final two and a half minutes. They go into overtime,
Cavaliers up three to two in the series and a
chance to close things out. And if you're looking at
the point spreads, it's been three and a half now,
it was four and a half last night. Pistons will
be three and a half point underdogs on Friday in
Cleveland and the Spurs four and a half point favorites
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Friday in Minnesota. So no basketball coming up tonight, the
NBA wisely stepping aside because of the NFL schedule release.
Maybe it's just a coincidence, but it feels like when
the NFL decides to roll something out, get out of
the way, and some of these matchups. Look, we know
the schedules for these teams, we don't know when they're
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going to be playing somebody. Is it going to be
over Thanksgiving? Going to be over Christmas? Is it going
to be overseas? I have an idea of Okay, that's
our schedule. Those are the games we're going to be playing.
But you know, Packers against the Rams on Thanksgiving eve bore,
that's tasty. Thanksgiving Bears, Lions, Eagles, Cowboys, Chiefs in the Bills.
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Then you get a Black Friday, you get Denver against
the Steelers. Yeah, who has it better than the NFL?
No body, Paul. Do you have last year's slate of
games around Thanksgiving? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The Thanksgiving Day early game was Packers Lions. Then it
was Chiefs Cowboys at four point thirty and that did
a gigantic number. I mean, I think an all time number.
The late game, the primetime game was Bengals.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Ravens, which thought that was going to be a big game. Yeah,
it turned out to be a dud. Like the Eagles
against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, it's going to do a
monster rating. That's why whatever you say about the Cowboys
that not winning, not going back to a super Bowl,
not really competing at a high level, they still bring
in eyeballs. The NFC East, you bring in eyeballs Eagles, Giants, Cowboys,
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And you know that's where the Cowboys, you know, stack
up against any team in any sport when it comes
to Mussy TV, because you're either tuning in because your
dad was a Cowboy fan, therefore you inherited that fandom,
or maybe your grandfather was and then your dad was.
When they were really good, and they haven't been that
good for thirty years now. But you're still you're kind
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of caught up in the why did you do this
to me?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Dad?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
We have a lot of fans who you inherit that fandom,
Like why am I a Jets fan? Well? Because I was,
and your grandfather was as well, and we remember what
Joe Namath won a Super Bowl that's a long time ago. Dad. Yep,
I'll blame your grandfather.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yes, Marvin, Are you putting the Cowboys in the same
category as the Jets?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, okay, No, I'm just saying you inherit the fandom.
Sometimes you get the baton, and if you're a Jets fan,
maybe your grandfather was a Jets fan and they won
a Super Bowl, and then your dad became a Jets
fan and now you're a Jets fan. Sometimes it's child
abuse when you think about why did you do that
to me?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Yes, marm But as far as being a Cowboys fan,
and I'm a forty nine Ers fan, so I do
not like the Cowboys at all, But I'm not sure
if that's child abuse. They've been really good. They've had
great playoff not playoff success, regular season success, but if
just you know, crack the bed into playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Wait a minute, it's a thirty three year drought for
America's team.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
But I'm talking about not being competitive at all.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay. I mean they tease you sometimes in the regular season,
and then they get into a playoff game at home
against Green Bay and you go, what just happened here?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So the Cowboys are the big teas.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
They are big t's. Yes, Dylan, if you.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Inherited being a Jets fan, I wouldn't fault you for
jumping ship. There's a few teams out there where I'm like,
I feel like you're allowed to move along at some
point if you so choose.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, it should be. But I find that more
younger fans, they might root for a player, you know,
it's Mahomes can make you a Chiefs fan, or you're
just a Mahomes fan, And it's more individualized because of
fantasy football. It feels like, so when you root when
you're watching a game, you might be rooting for your team,
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but you're also rooting for your other team, your fantasy team, yes, Ton,
And when you're playing video.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Games, you could put any player on any team. It's
also a lot less team. More I'm going to create
this player or put this guy on this squad. So
it's totally player driven.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And there was a move yesterday that kind of surprised
me and Devon A Chan, who's a really good running back,
got four year, sixty four million dollars, and I was wondering,
are you going to now? He's really good and he's
worth the money because he can run and catch. But
if I'm Miami, I kind of go all in tank
and just I wouldn't have brought in Malik Willis just
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to kind of get me through another year. I would
just say, hey, quinn Ewers, why don't you be the quarterback?
And then maybe we'll be in the running for a
true franchise quarterback next year and maybe maybe you get
Arch Manning or one of these other quarterbacks expected to
go in the first round. And there are probably five
or six quarterbacks who are projected. But if I'm giving
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a Chan like, I don't want to end up in
six win Land. I want to be like three and
four wins. So all right, we got some younger players
we're trying to develop, and now we're going to get
a chance to get a really good quarterback because I've
come to the conclusion, if I'm the Steelers, I have
to walk away from Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'm looking at a business perspective here, because what are
we going to win? We're not the best team in
our own division, maybe not the second best team in
our own division. And are we going to be back
here next year at nine to eight and kicking the
can down the road? As much as I want to
see Rogers play again, if I'm Pittsburgh, I think I
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have to just come to the conclusion, why don't we
try a different approach here? Because we haven't been able
to replace Ben Roethlisberger and here we are with Rogers.
You're not sure is he going to I want to
know your heart is in it, like I want Aaron
Rodgers to be there in the off season. I'm just
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surprised that the Steelers as an organization are waiting for
Aaron Rodgers again. I'd walk away. I'd be like, no,
you know, we want you to be here, we want
you to want to play, and maybe you just turn
it over to Will Howard and just say, hey, let's
see what we have with this kid, and maybe he's
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just a backup but maybe we get into a better
position for the next ten years instead of next year.
At this time, we're probably going to be coming off
nine and eight season, maybe a first round exit. Okay,
you're not going you know, you're always going to be
stuck in neutral. It's going to be this is as
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far as we go. Now do we change it up?
At some point? I wouldn't be waiting for a forty
one year old quarterback to come back and decide what
we're going to do as a team moving forward here.
And that brings me to Lebron James, because if I'm
the Lakers, I want to be respectful to Lebron, but
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I also have to look at this as a business.
I would move on from Lebron. I would say, you
know what, maybe we could use that sixty million someplace else.
We have to re sign Austin Reeves. That's a big
ticket item, and maybe we go out get someone like,
as I've been saying, Isaiah Hartenstein, who's just a lunch
payal guy. He's going to be there, play hard every
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single night and resemble what a center should look like
and act like in the NBA. But I don't try
to solve everything right now because you're not going to
be better than Okay. See, you're not going to be
better than the Spurs. I want to capitalize on Okay,
Lebron's farewell tour, and if that's your approach. Unlike with Kobe,
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it was a farewell tour. It felt like for the
last couple of years, Lebron, you're going to make the playoffs,
But are you gonna like the Lakers aren't satisfied with
a second round exit. You can't go away. We made
the playoffs and we won fifty five games, and we
lost in this second round. I'd walk away, I would
say to Lebron the only way I would bring him back,
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and I want to see him play again. I just
have to look at this from a standpoint of the organization,
not my feelings for Lebron, because he's surpassed every milestone.
So there's nothing that you go, oh, you know, come
to this game because if he scores this many points
or has this many rebounds, or he wins this game,
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I have to move because this is Lucas team and
as great as Lebron was sacrificed, played well as the
third wheel carried them the last couple of weeks of
the regular season carried them in the playoffs as well.
But I have to be pragmatic about this and say,
are we better in the long run? Run here the
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long haul than one more year. Now they're in a
better position. It feels like then the Steelers are. But
here you are. You're going to be waiting for Lebron.
What are you going to play? Pay him? That's commensurate
to being one of the greatest players of all time.
The farewell tour, where you're the Lakers, you're the show
in town. People are still going to come out to
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your games. So I don't know how you benefit financially.
And if you want him to come back, you say,
all right, come back, We're going to invest in you
for one year. There was a story Dave mcmanhamon of
the Mothership, and he had a report that Lebron was
upset because he didn't get the game ball for when
he surpassed Kareem Abdul Jabbar for most games or most victories.
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I don't even know what the milestone was.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Guest to most wins in the history by any player.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Okay, in the NBA, but Rob Polenka, the GM gave
the game ball to JJ Reddick, who won his one
hundredth career game. So Dave mcmanhamon had this little scoopage.
I don't know how this gets out unless Lebron wants
this to get out because you know he's buddy buddy
with Dave mcmanhamon. And does he say, hey, you know,
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how petty these mfors are? You know they did this? Well,
then you say, well, didn't they draft your son, Didn't
they bring in Russell Westbrook because you wanted him, didn't
they hire your podcast partner, JJ Reddick? I mean they
kind of have done some things for you here, and
I thought, how petty can this be? I mean, really,
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is this a real story? And maybe it's just kind
of a window into the relationship he may have with
the front office. He loves JJ Reddick, well he should,
because that's the guy he wanted to be his coach.
But I got to move on at some point, and
it's really difficult. I mean, look back with the Chicago Bulls,
could have run it back one more year with Michael
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Jordan and Scotty and front office decided, nope, we're going
to break it up. Imagine that they started a rebuild
they had everybody there, they just had to pay everybody,
and all of a sudden, the Tim Floyd era era
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and ir R started. Yes. So at some point now
that to me was malpracticed what they did. But if
I'm looking at what the Lakers should do and what
the Steelers should do, I got to move on. I
can't be stuck in this. Well one more year and
then we'll get to this point next year. What are
we going to be saying? The Steelers could be saying,
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you know, Aaron played pretty well, okay, so what are
you going to do? Well, we have the nineteenth pick
in the draft, okay, and then the Lakers bow out
in the second round. You know, Lebron played pretty well
for a forty two year old, what are you going
to do? At some point you have to look at
this and say, it's more than just year to year.
(13:24):
This is more of a window of where are we
going to be in three years, five years, and knowing that, Okac,
they are deep and they are young, and those guys
are signed up. And then you got the Spurs. They're
deep and they're young, and you've got them signed up.
So that's where you have to look at this and go. Yeah,
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come to think of it, it'd be nice to see.
I think the Laker fans don't love Lebron. They love
having Lebron, And there's a big difference in that, Like
he's not beloved because he's not one of your own.
And he did come there and you got a championship
in the bubble. But other than that, Okay, you don't
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owe him anything. You've given him a lot, and you
can say that he reciprocated. But I can't be waiting
around and he can still play at a high level,
and maybe that's part of the problem. I know that
I'm getting, you know, twenty one, eight and seven from
him next year. If he was really on the decline,
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then it would be really easy to say, hey, you
know some nice, nice parting gifts for you, We'll we'll
keep Bronnie on the roster for next few year. How's
that We'll do that for you when you leave?
Speaker 7 (14:40):
All right?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
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Pull question today and the end of the Cavs Pistons game.
I thought the officials got it wrong. We'll talk about
that as well. We'll take a break back after this
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Speaker 2 (15:43):
No basketball tonight, NBA taking the night off to allow
the NFL center stage. That's very nice to the NBA
to do that. It'll be the Pistons three and a
half point underdogs Friday against Cleveland. The Spurs are four
and a half point favorites against Minnesota on Friday. At
the end of regulation, there was a play with about
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maybe two seconds to go, one second to go. Jared
Allen bumped to sart Thompson and knocked him to the ground.
And I thought that if they were both going for
the ball, then I would say, okay, play on, let's
go into overtime. But Thompson is clearly bumped from behind
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by Jared Allen, so therefore I have to call it.
I know there's one second to go, but I have
to call it now. I'm sure the NBA is going
to say, well, he's twenty six feet away from the basket,
he's not really in a scoring position. I understand that,
but it's an accidental trip. It's still a trip. If
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I accidentally foul you, they still call a foul on me.
And I thought that it was. It was not a
no call in my opinion because I thought Alan is
behind Thompson. If they're both side by side, then I'm
okay with that. But I was not okay with what
I saw. Here is JB. Bickerstaff, the Pistons head coach.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Did they give you a reason why there wasn't no
foul call on on Jared Alleny on edge of.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
It's I mean clear he trips him when he's going
for a loose ball in the game situation.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You know, that that's tough. It's not a debate in
my opinion, because he does trip him. I don't care
if their feet get tangled up. Did you trip him? Yes, accidentally, Okay,
but I'll still call foul if that's in the first
quarter they're calling it. I don't like games to end on,
you know, plays that I don't think really we're going
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to be scoring plays or impactful plays. But this is
the playoffs, and you did trip him, and there is
time on the clock, and I have to call it.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, Paulie and Tom made a great steal on the play.
He should be rewarded, not like you said. It wasn't
a fifty to fifty play. He got tripped from behind,
you call it. He goes and shoots in the bonus
and they probably steal it.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
And I don't want to hear this. And I've already
heard analysts say, well, you were up nine with three
minutes to go. Okay, yes we were, and we allowed
Cleveland to come back. What was that a foul? How
about we take away we're up nine with three minutes
to go and just say, just look at that play.
(18:31):
Don't factor in. Oh, you guys blew a nine point lead. Yes,
I mean they they went out of their way to
allow Cleveland to win this game. They really did, But
that to me was a foul, whether it was accidental
or not.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Yes, Dylan, there's some games too where the moment it
heads to overtime, you're like, I know exactly how this
is going to end. You know, the momentum has completely shifted,
and you're like, if you're the Pistons there, you're like, no.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And I always love inside the NBA because they give
you great analysis. I mean, where else can you get
this analysis from Charles Barkley talking about the Cavaliers Max Struce.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I'm thinking what everybody is saying, that's the pretty man.
I don't think everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Can ask you a question.
Speaker 10 (19:21):
Yes you can't.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
What are you attracted to her? About him? I'm not
attracted to attracted. He's a good looking man. What are
you attracted about his good looks? His face, his face,
his face looking man.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Okay, he's got his bandana headband on, his hair's back,
he's got these bright blue or green eyes, he's got
his beard on. Paul, he's watching the game with his wife,
and his wife when she sees Max Scruce like who's that?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I told you that incompetence. My wife hasn't watched ten
minutes of the NBA in ten years, and I'm like,
let's watch you in this game. It's really tight. She's quiet,
she's watching, she doesn't Odnovan Mitchell, and all of a sudden,
Max Streuce hits a three shoes who's that? And she
said it like that.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah. Now imagine you're watching Euphoria and then you
say who's that? Then you're gonna get in trouble. But
Max Struce, who's that? All right, Dylan, let's pull question
for the first hour of this program.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
We have a few dan off our earlier topic. What
would be the smarter decision the Lakers move on from
Lebron or the Steelers move on from Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Okay, well, I think the Steelers with Aaron Rodgers because
I gotta look at what is the ceiling here? What's
the floor here? And you got smoked in the playoffs?
Are we gonna go through this again? Like Steeler fans
want and deserve better than this, But it feels like
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you're kind of you kind of know how this is
gonna go as scripted with Lebron it's a little bit
tougher to say goodbye because he plays at a higher level.
But I mean i'd walk away, I'd let both guys go.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Still, it is funny when you look at the Steelers,
it's like on an island, if you just heard, okay,
the last two years they've drafted the quarterback from Ohio
State and the quarterback from Penn State, you'd be like,
one of those guys got to be pretty good.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And no one.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Feels that way at all. Drew Hollurs being a deep programmed.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I saw that. Can you imagine if you were
his quarterbacks coach at Penn State and everything that you
taught him, the Steelers say, we have to undo.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
It's like the men.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
They take the men in black wand and just put
it up to him go.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
But Drew Aller, who was pretty hot at the beginning
of last season, it was like, Okay, this guy is
gonna be a first round back draft pick. It feels
like there's always ten quarterbacks now who may could be
first round draft picks. And then we get to the draft,
and then we have two first round draft picks at
the most important position in all the sports. But next year,
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next year, you got what everybody considers one of the
better quarterback drafts in recent memory.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yes, Marvin, the worst thing that happens the quarterbacks is
they played great their college freshman year and their sophomore year.
Christian Hackenberg, Oh, he's a number one pick in the draft,
but then they have to keep playing for three and
four years and then they get exposed.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yep, that's what happens when I would be leaving after
my third year, Yes, Dylan. Last year, Drew Aller.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Had like the third or fourth best odds to go
number one overall preseason.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That changed quickly. But if I'm Pittsburgh, I know it
might hurt one year, But do I want to rip
the bandage off and then try to move forward and
maybe find our quarterback? I mean, Aaron Rodgers is one
more year. Maybe it seems like Lebron might play two
years just to prove that. I saw where Steph Curry
(22:59):
I think wants to play three more years. He wants
to play till he's forty. God bless him if you
can do it. But if I'm the Lakers, are we
going to be better next year? How much better with
Lebron and how much better without him moving forward, because
I don't think you'll be a better team next year
because Lebron played really well. But I just think you
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got to look bigger picture here, and I don't want
to hold the franchise hostage. And if it feels like
you've done everything that you can possibly do for Lebron
and he's not happy or he has problems with some
people in the front office, do we move on because
of that? Like, I don't want to be petty because
(23:42):
it seems like Lebron might be petty. You got to
be grown ups here with your decisions moving forward. You know, Dylan,
it's funny.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
That Lebron's this is now Lebron's longest tenure on a team,
and you don't really like when you just split second
think about him, I says he didn more with the
Calves in the heat still than the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, yeah, interesting. But his critics though. The Bubble Championship,
you know, they never call it just an NBA championship.
It's a Bubble championship. Mickey Mouse. Yeah, like you in
the shadows of Mickey Mouse in Orlando. Yes, Paul, that's.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Always bothered me because that's kind of unfair to the
Lakers to criticize the Bubble Championship. They would have had
home court advantage in the playoffs soon, so all those
games were neutral sight that that's actually makes that tougher
to win the Bubble Championship.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Jason in Detroit, Hi, Jason went on your mind.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
Hi, uh, thanks for having my take my call. Appreciate it.
I just wanted to kind of comment a little bit
about what you're just talking about with the officiating. It's
not for me. It's not even just Detroit. It's just
like a league wide I mean, when you see the rest,
it's like you can tell they don't they just don't
want to call that foul. And then what are we doing?
(24:55):
You know at that point, Like I said, it's not
just Detroit, it's like a league wide.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Thing.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
It's like you can do they put the SGA push
off on the promo for the the Road to the
Finals on ABC and ESPN.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
It's just like, what.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
Are I'm forty nine, I played basketball. I played in
the Pro Am League against Lindsay Hunter, I Renewable a
bunch of other like CBA guys and other stuff like that.
I wanted to play in the NBA. I'm now, like
this is the first time ever in my life. I'm
just like leaving the house, like when the games come on,
and like I don't even want to watch them, and
it's like the only thing that can be talked about
(25:33):
is the referee, and it's like the games are just
like secondary at this point.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, well, sorry to hear that, Jason, but you gotta
call that. I wonder if that's SGA and he gets
knocked down or Lebron gets knocked down or Wenby gets
like I hate thinking that, but I do think that.
I mean, I'm watching old clips of NBA action from
the eighties in my free time, and you'll see Larry
(25:59):
Bird around the screen, hits a shot and then they
call foul and it looked like the official was looking
around to say, who am I going to pin this on?
Because Larry Bird did not get fouled on the play.
And it's one of those where you actually hear the
players saying that's bs and it was. But you're thinking,
(26:23):
why do we let the best players get the calls?
They're already the best players, But last night that should
have been called, like it or not, you know, playoff game,
it's in the final seconds of the game. Regulation, I
got to call it, that's all got to call it.
It's like, oh, you know the officials they put their
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whistles away when it's in the final two minutes of
a football game. Man, you don't want to call it. Well,
if I'm a defensive player, I'm like, okay, I'm going
to hold onto you and you see it. It's egregious
sometimes where they're just grabbing because they're like, go ahead,
go ahead, go ahead. That's what Seattle the Legion of
Boon did. They're like, they're not calling past interference on
(27:07):
every play, so why don't we hold on every single play?
And they were correct.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, Paul that non call last night, though it's in Detroit.
I looked at it again. That ref is right there
on top of the play. He's direct view, not shielded
at all. That's where we're calling nothing to end this game.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, and he had a great angle and I think
that's where who is it Tony Brothers is was he
the official last night?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Now?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I don't know if he was the one who was
not making the call, but I think he spoke afterwards.
But it was like, oh, you know, they're both kind
of jostling you know no, uh, it felt like Thompson
had a step on Jared Allen and he, you know,
was going after the ball. It was a play. So
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Tony Brothers was on the call or non call, last name.
Let's see Andrew in Atlanta. Good morning, Andrew. What's on
your mind?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Hey Dan, you're kind enough to do a fictis to
the main stage. So I was driving by the Magic
City yesterday into work and I was trying to share
that clip with my son, and he started asking questions
about the main stage. So I was going to see
if I could do maybe a redo so I could
have a better clip to share with him and not
have as so many questions. Is that okay?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Porsche to the main stage. Porsche to the main stage.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
No main stage is here. I just wanted to say
first time, long time, six two three hundred ish. Wanted
to see for your farewell tour, is there a way
to get any clips or recordings of your early shows
from the Attic And if there's a possibility to shoot
a few shows from the Attic with a current team.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The attic is closed for business. Took everything out of there.
There were two bedrooms up there that we converted into
my side of the studio and the Dan Out's side
of the studio. But we've since taken out the big
glass partition in there, all the equipment out of there,
and you'd never know that we hosted a national radio
show from the attic. Good times. I think everybody had
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a good time except for Todd. And why do you
say that You had your little desk and it was
you know, cramped quarters Seaton and Pauli Rup front. There's
three flights of stairs you had to go into every
day up.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
It did like the smell of breakfast.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, yeah, coming from down. So I know you guys
would come in and my wife's getting the kids off
to school. Let's see Merle in Ohio. Hi Meryl, Hey,
good morning Dan.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Thanks for the opportunity a long time, first time. Appreciate
you guys a great deal. I want to go back
to a conversation from the top of the show. Dyllan
made a comment about this last week of kind of
NFL fandom and you're born into it and how to
let your child find their own way. Grew up in Youngstown, Ohio,
just up the road, came to Columbus to go to
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Ohio State. But you know, in Youngstown, you've got halfway
to Pittsburgh, halfway to Cleveland, and you've also got the
forty nine Ers as an option because of the de
Bartelow and York families there. My dad was a Browns fan,
so I was a Browns fan. That's, you know, not
an easy road to hoe between the team moving to
Baltimore and just being kind of generally bad for a
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long time and now everything that comes along with Jimmy
Haslam and the ownership mess in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Now.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
So my daughter a few years ago, she's five now,
so she would have been three. Then we're driving through
the tunnels, come into downtown Pittsburgh, beautiful city, and we
were going to a Pirates game. The next day, the
Steelers had a home preseason game, so the lights were
on over at Hinesfield and she saw the diamond logo and,
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as any year old girl would do, said, I like
that team because they've got diamonds. And she's stuck with
the Steelers since then. I've not tried to force her to,
you know, choose the Browns because to your point, Dan,
that's kind of an abusive thing to do to a child.
So she's a Steelers fan, and thanks to my wife
finding one of those rob Low NFL hats, I've gone
a full free agency and I'll tell you Sundays are
(31:22):
a whole lot more fun now without the.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Brown all right, well, thank you, thank you for that.
I let my son pick whoever he wanted to pick.
It didn't matter to me. And he's a Packer fan.
He likes the Red Sox. I think he likes the
Bruins hockey. And I'm like, pick whoever you want, but
whoever you pick, stay with. And I've told the story.
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When he was twelve, he told me he's a Red
Sox fan, and so I went out and got him
some gear. He wore the gear. He had a jacket,
he had a hat. He wore it to school first
day and he ran into some Yankee fans at the
school and they took the hat, put it in a
jurnal and they pete on it. So that's when I
(32:10):
had to kind of explain to my wife what fandom is,
because she's not a sports fan. She likes in the
individual things like running a marathon or canoeing or something
like that. And she's like, she we should go to
the school and complain. I said, no, hon this is
the rivalry that well, they can't do that. I said, no,
(32:33):
they can't, but they did, and it's part of the rivalry.
It's okay, I said, as long as he's not getting
it into a fight. And they just took his hat.
I said, I'll get him another hat and then you
wear it. See what happens. Yes, Marvin, you didn't.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Put him in boxing lessons or anything. You take take
my son's hat off.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
No, but my wife wanted me to go, and I said, no,
that's the worst thing. I'm not let him. He picked
his team. Let him. Yeah, And I said, hey, now
you're going to find out how much you like the
Red Sox. And he told everybody that year they were
going to win the World Series. And you would have
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guys who were seventy eighty years of age going he
doesn't even know the history, like this is going to
be heartbreak. And he swore to everybody they were going
to win the World Series. And that's the year they
won the World Series. And so I said, okay, now
you understand the rivalry. You got one. The Yankees have
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twenty seven. The rivalry continues, Yes, Todd, When is it okay.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
For a parents who get involved in so called fight
their kids battle for them. You know, is it a
certain age, it is a certain school.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I well, why don't I ask you what age do
you think it's appropriate that if you fight a battle
for your son?
Speaker 7 (33:53):
I think once you're like in junior high school, late
junior high that's probably once you're done with elementary school.
You have to kind of figure it out for yourself,
whether you're just getting picked on or bullied for no reason,
they stole your lunch, or you know, like the team
you're rooting for.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
That that's what I would say.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Did your mom not step in on your behalf?
Speaker 7 (34:10):
She did not.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
My brother did.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
When I got shoved down a flight of stairs for
no reason, like late in junior high school, I was
going down to the gym to the gymnasium.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
And I had a big backpack on.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
So I'm already off balance with this big backpack with
all my school books. God forbid, I should leave one
of the books home and not carry all of them
with me or put it in a locker. And someone
thought it'd be funny to kind of give me a
little shove, and I went tumbling down to flat of
stairs and my notebook opened up, and she's a paper
of flying everywhere, and I'm a total panic and I'm
injured and I'm trying to gather up all my notes.
And you know, my brother let the you know, they
didn't get violent, but he let you know, those people
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know that that shouldn't happen again, because he was a
big guy.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Didn't want to mess with big iron, and he's not.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
A violent person, but he just, you know, quietly said,
you know when we're not going to do that again.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, if you're being bullied, if if it's something more
than you know, a rivalry with your sports teams and
something happening you know, chronically, then yeah, then you have
to step in.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yes, Mark, they took your son's hat off and urinated
on it.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, that's a fight if he makes But you know
there's four Yankee fans in him, So can you fight
in that instance?
Speaker 5 (35:17):
And I'm getting somebody else, we're even it up.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I think there were more Yankee fans in school than
Red Sox fans. I don't think Red Sox fans wanted
to come out, you know from hiding.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yes, Paul, I could have told you when you bought
the hat that you're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Oh okay, I see what they see what you did
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Oh God.
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Shift this out theake just.
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be How about some poll results from the first hour, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Alrighty Dan, we got two up there right now. The
first was which would be the smartest decision the Lakers
say goodbye to Lebron or the Steelers say goodbye to
Aaron Rodgers. Fifty one point six percent say, Lakers say
goodbye to Lebron, but neck and neck there, okay? And
then we threw up there, who would you most want
to sit with? For Pistons Calves, Isaiah Thomas, Mike Tarico,
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Eminem or fifty cent all of whom were in attendance
last night. Forty one percent say do you want to guess? Eminem,
Mike Taurico, Oh, running away with it?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Followed by Eminem. Oh good for Mike.
Speaker 8 (37:40):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
If I sit next to Fiddy or I sit next
to Eminem, I'm definitely going to get on TV. I'm
going to get some screen time there. I don't know
if if Eminem, if Eminem, you know, was Timothy Chalomagne
breaking down the second unit of the Pistons, then that
would be kind of fun. Uh. And Fiddy is from
(38:02):
New York. Yeah, so I don't know about that one.
And Uh, Isaiah Isaiah A lot of things talk about, yes.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Mark, Isaiah Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Go, oh, if I sit next to Isaiah, I just say, man,
what would Michael do in a situation like this? Yes? Mark?
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Who hates who more? Does Jo rule? Does fifty cent
hate Joe rullmore? It is Isaiah Thomas hate Michael Jordan?
Speaker 10 (38:30):
That all question?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Well, does Isaiah hate Michael more than Michael hates Isaiah?
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I think it's a two way street. Yeah, almost like
John fifty.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, I don't know that beef.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Oh, it's been brewing for about what's today, Thursday, twenty years.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Fifty has got many known beefs. Floyd Mayweather that was
going good for a while. NP didty obviously they fifty
cent had a field day with it.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I think it's fitty. It's not fifty cent fifty it's fitty,
is it?
Speaker 3 (38:59):
It's not fifty cent?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
And it's yeah, it's fitty cent. There's no at the
end of it.
Speaker 11 (39:05):
F f I D D Y yeah, fitty okayty cent,
I think to each their own, Well, in my neighborhood,
in your neighborhood, Yeah, we've.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Been to your neighborhood. They call him fidy Yeah okay.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yes, hey half dollar yeah yeah. Arlene, who's in her eighties.
You know, she'll be like, did you watch the game
with Fitty last night? Yes? I did? Arlene? Uh Jay
in Oregon? Hi Jay, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (39:36):
Hey Dan, good morning, Good morning fellas. I have a
couple of things, so I'll try to be real brief.
Concerning my Steelers, I totally agree with you that we
should move on from Rogers. I just think the thing
with the Steelers and Rogers is though, that I think
the organization Ann Rogers has known all along that he's
(39:58):
coming back. I don't think he stringing us along necessarily.
I think we should have moved on from them also,
And you know, give the kid Will Howard a shot.
That's why I don't like the allur pick either, because
we kind of have the same dude already that we
haven't even given her stop to we can.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah, I get it well, but you know, the Steelers
don't rebuild. They I can't remember the last time they
were in a rebuild was when they got Terry Bradshaw's
the number one overall pick. That was what nineteen sixty nine,
nineteen seventy that I don't remember them where they go.
You know what, we have five wins we'll get better
(40:41):
players in the draft, Yeah, paul.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
In the past thirty seasons, the Steelers have been under
five hundred once.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, and then you know it feels like they'll be
nine and eight this year. Maybe you're ten and seven.
But are you satisfied with ten and seven knowing that
you're not a real threat in the playoffs, Like you're
gonna make the playoffs pretty much guarantee, but you're not
(41:06):
gonna do damage, as Fritzi likes to say. One hour
in the books, two more to go. Fritzi's here, Dylan's here,
Marvin's here, Paulie, who's going into the confessional? I believe
I am oh Dylan is all right if you're watching
on Peacock Dylan in the interrogation room, coming up. Hour
two on the way