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on Peacock. How are we feeling today, you guys? That's good,
I know, but I don't get sometimes I feed off
the energy here, we're letting it breathe. Okay, Todd's here,
Dylan's here, Marvin Paulie and the back room guys as well.
Poll question from our one and then what are we
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going to go with an hour two? Dylan?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, Dan, the Rams this season are winning it all,
winning the NFC, winning their division, or missing the playoffs.
Thirty three percent have them winning the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Okay, you know, it's one of those days where here
it is, it's basketball and it's hockey. We're in the
middle of baseball and the NFL just drops a bomb,
a couple of bombs. Now we knew about the aj Brown,
but Miles getting traded and the fallout from that, and
now I wonder, can you do anything after a move
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like this for the Rams, if you're the Niners, if
you're Seattle, do you do anything? I would say, I guess,
for the lack of a better word, counteract this because
now you got Miles Garrett. Okay, and you know they
already got Trent mcduffy, but they needed to upgrade that
defense offensively, they're good now. Devonte Adams being thirty four
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bothers me. I'd love for him to be my third receiver,
not my second. That's why. Maybe Ty Simpson turns out
to be Joe Namath. But I'm winning now, and they
made a move to win. Now, That's why I would
have made a move with that draft pick in the
first round to win. Now, give me somebody who can
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be a difference maker on offense, yeah, Pauli. Joe Namath
with the Rams though no, not that Joe names check. Yes,
but both Alabama products Ty Simpson and maybe Ty Simpson
can sit for a year, maybe it's two years. You
got Stafford who signed an extension. He wants to play
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boy you want to talk about Hey, Matt, sorry, we're
gonna draft Ty Simpson. Why Well, you know he's too
good to pass up. We've had a relationship with him
and his father for a while. We can't pass him up. Okay,
we'll make it up to you. How about a contract extension? Uh? Okay, Hey,
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I got you a Trent McDuffie. Yeah, I know. Hey, Matthew,
guess what we're trading for Miles Garrett. Don't mess with me. No,
we're trading for Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You know that, Ty Simpson, you know that draft pick's
not that bad. I feel okay about it. Our two
pole question, Dylan, you kind of brought.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
This up in the first hour, and I thought it
was interesting. Oh, who would you rather have peak Aaron
Donald or peak Miles Garrett? Which could be a potential
scenario for the Rams, So I have to get both.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I would take Aaron Donald, I would Miles Garrett's wonderful.
Obviously they're both gonna be first Mellot Hall of Famers
if I get him at the same price Aaron Donald,
But if you want to put it out there, you
know you can't. But uh, Aaron Donald, to me, there's
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nobody else like him. I can go back to Warren Sap,
but like, there are guys who have played like him.
But in today's NFL, it's all about the edge rushers.
You don't have anybody who's going up the middle and disrupting.
And I think that's what makes Aaron Donald so unique.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yes, Paul Aaron Donald once had a season where he
had twenty and a half sex at the interior of
the I know that's freaky.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's wild. Phone calls will get to those coming up.
So we got hockey coming up tonight with the Golden
Knights on the road and they have the two top
scores in the postseason. Vegas is the third team in
the last fifteen years to go in to the Cup
Final with multiple ten goal scores. The Capitals had this
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in twenty eighteen. Edmonton had this in twenty twenty four.
Steat of the day, Sat of the day, that past
stat of the day, stat of the day. Here it
comes that what stat of the day?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Pop?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yep, my Golden Knights coming up. The other move that
kind of got overshadowed, but it's because we knew it
was going to happen. The Eagles traded aj Brown of
the Patriots first round pick in twenty twenty eight and
a fifth round pick in twenty twenty seven. So AJ
Brown has won of seven players in NFL history to
have at least eighty five hundred receiving yards and sixty
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touchdown receptions including the playoffs, in his first seven seasons.
He joins Jerry Rice, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald,
Calvin Johnson, and Tyreek Hill. Rot you buy Penneny America,
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with Miles Garrett. Since he came into the league in
twenty seventeen. He leads the NFL in sacks with one
hundred twenty five and a half pressures stat I love
four hundred and thirteen tackles for losses one forty nine.
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He's second in quarterback hits and third in forced fumbles.
He has a chance to be on the short list
of greatest defensive player of all time. Part of the
problem has been he's done this and you're not watching games.
You might watch all highlight that's it. Your other great
defensive players, they played in big games. Reggie White played
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in big games. Lawrence Taylor played in big games. Ronnie
Lott played in big games. You know, run down the list.
You're normally playing in big games. But ray Lewis played
in big games. Yeah, Paul, it's like Otani go to
the Dodgers. Now, we could see him in October.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Yeah, he's been toiling for years, like Mike Trout, no
postseason and one of the greatest hitters of all time.
But he will be not remembered, no, not strongly remembered.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
It'll just be that he was a great player and
you won't have any memories. It won't be where remember when,
and there's no remember when. Just a great player. And
we've said for years, trade him, we said when they
had Otani, trade him. One guy has not changed your
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organ You had two of the best players, you had
two first ballot Hall of famers, and you're not making
the playoffs. And that's really hard to do, but they
did it. Yeah, Mike Trout's gonna be a man. That's
a lot of home runs, or that's a lot of
golden gloves, or that's a lot of stolen base like
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but it's not gonna be well maybe maybe at the
end of his career, maybe he gets a chance, but
it be great. That's what you want to see great
players play on the biggest stage. One basketball note, I'm
gonna bring this up to Jim Jackson. The number of
analysts who came out and said they thought that Oklahoma
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City is going to move on from Chet Holmgren. Now
he gets this new contract coming up next year. He's young.
Did he did he get roughed up? Did he get embarrassed?
Humbold yes? Did he disappear yet? All of those things?
All of those things. But he's still young and still
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trying to figure it out. And I think he's necessary
for OKAC to continue to win. Is he Wemby? No,
he's not. But he was on what third team all NBA?
Was he up there for Defensive Player of the Year.
I wouldn't be moving on from him. Would I want
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him to work with somebody? What I I mean? I
really got to get inside his head to wonder, like
what happened? You didn't even take shots in the second half.
But he can still play defense. I just got to
figure out how to use him, how he can find
comfort spots on the on the floor. But I'm not
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moving on from him because you know he looked that lost.
I mean, is he twenty?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Marvin got to be older than that twenty one?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, Paul, he just turned twenty four, twenty four, he
missed that first year that I'm moving on from him totally?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Change No, I take no. I mean, these are young guys,
and I gotta be fair to him, Do I think
he is a franchise player. I don't, but I just
because he had, you know, this series against Wemby, I
gotta be fair to him. Now, Sam Presty is a
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great GM. Does he think that he can get, you know,
dollar for dollar if he trades Chet Holmgren?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
If?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And if so, they don't need picks. They're loaded with picks.
But if you're gonna say to Milwaukee Chat Holmgren three
first round picks, we want Jannis, okay? If I'm okay,
see and I like Giannis in your offense, Okay, I
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mean you're trying to win championships. Yes, they're built for
the future, okay, but apparently they're not built right now.
If I get three years of Yannis, you know, I'm
gonna give up some first round draft picks and I
give up Chet Holmgren. Okay, But I just don't move
on from him because I don't kicking to the curb.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Yes, Paulling those first round picks that Oklahoma City has,
those guys are going to fight for playing time the
next couple of years.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yes, Bill, I think Chat's a little bit of a
victim of expectations too, from when he was coming into
the League because he was kind of got some like
Wemby ish uh, you know, thoughts about him when he
was in high school, like Kreagan Zaga. Even he was this,
you know, over north of seven foot guy who had
a handle and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, but we didn't know about Wemby. We knew about
Chet Holmgren. Yeah, and then all of a sudden it
was like Wemby, Wemby, Wemby. These two don't like each other.
They faced each other back when they were what sixteen
seventeen years of age, you know, home grin. Let's see
what happens now. I mean, you got embarrassed on the
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biggest stage. Now, let me see what you do. He
can't just palt like. You got to be ready. You
got to figure out something that you can do to
counteract Wemby on the offensive vent defensively, you're still a
really good player. He finished runner up to Wemby, but offensively.
Now is when we find out you really want to
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be great. I mean, I got Wemby in a pool
with Navy Seals in the off season. I got him
working out with Jamal Crawford on ball handling. I got
him working out with a chem Elijah on on footwork.
I got him working out with Tim Duncan and David Robinson.
Your move, Chet, your move, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
He's taking acting lessons with Danielda Lewis.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I hear Gabe. He's not gonna stop. He is not
gonna stop. He's taking acting lessons also from Meryl Street. Yes, buy, Okay.
I looked up Chet Holmgren. I think he lifts weights.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
I'm sure they have a weight room there at Okay see,
but it just doesn't look like it's working the weight
weight room, putting on weight thing. He's put on twelve
pounds in four years.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, but Wemby is not big, He's not muscular, feels
more solid.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
No, he's gotten bigger, but like more noticeably than Chet.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Chester's listed at seven to one to two o eight.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh, what's Wemby to twenty Maybe?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
No, he's got to be heavier than that. I really hope.
So for my sake, well, wait.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
A minute, what's the difference between two to eight for
Chet at seven foot whatever and Wemby at seven foot whatever? Yeah,
PAULI all right.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Let's play the game. The official height and weight of Wemby.
This is the official one that the NBA and the
spurs use.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
All right, Todd, I'll let you start seven four twenty eight,
all right, Dylan, seven four two thirty five, all right,
Marvin seven four two twenty six. Man, I'm gonna go
seven four to two twenty nine, just like the price
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is right.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
One of you got it exactly right. Who thinks they
got it exactly right? Dylan would be the answer. Seven
four two thirty five.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Okay. So what you're saying is me and Wemby are
the same way.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's pretty cool. Oh, I think you're more than two
thirty five, aren't you.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
A couple of weeks when we did the way in
for our way off, I was, but I think I'm
trimming down a little bit, ALRIGHTA not getting any taller.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Though, duh, don't look for it's right behind you.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Went the boogeyman.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
No your rear end, see like you? Thank you. Never mind.
If I weighed the back row against the front row,
I mean, come on, I would save back row by far.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yeah, I would do.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, Todd, how much you weigh?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I'm about two thirty two two thirty three.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
All right, two thirty five, okay, Marvin? Two thirty one okay, Paul,
one eighty six. Yeah, front row?
Speaker 6 (15:31):
What if we throw Dan into the front row? Are
we about even?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I weigh more than you think, can I guess her?
Is that rude?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Go ahead?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Uh? Two ten?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Marvin two twenty one, Okay, Paul twenty one. I would
go six to two two O four, Todd two oh nine,
six foot two down from six to three. I'll tell
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prior to the commercial break, I told you. I was six'.
Three Now i'm six,' two, and uh everybody guessed. My
weight i'm six two two eighteen six two. Two eighteen
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playing weight was six three one. Seventy five nobody wanted
any part. Of, THAT oh i just got this, That
apparently and there are two people who are telling me
how much, they weigh but they're lying. About, it dylan
how much did you say you weighed to? Thirty FIVE
and i stand, By, That dad well you're sitting, right, now,
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so uh to forty five is what you weighed. In, At,
okay marvin you said you weighed to thirty two to. Thirty,
one uh we've got you at two. Thirty NINE but
i weighed myself this morning and it said two. Thirty ONE.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
And i weighed myself the other DAY and i was
down to two thirty four AND then i was back
up to two, thirty eight And then i've been pretty good.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Since Then so i'm just two. Thirty five.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Seems, Accurate okay so you guys have lost ten, pounds
basically is what. You're saying you haven't said a word.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
About, it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well you had twenty, to LOSE so i can't give
you a credit for losing ten.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Wait only, twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Five? Twenty, Five, yes marvin so somebody snitching. Out, here
yes the person who holds the. Camera weeks he's the
one who was there when you guys.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Weigh in he knows what.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
We did the rats, Around, here.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Todd did you tell? THE truth? I. Did Okay, lewis
riddick he played IN. The nfl he was. His, safety
uh he's of course with. The mothership height. And weight
lewis official height and wait official? Right? Now yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Six oh two, oh two twenty three to.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Twenty three, all right that's like.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Football, weight yeah my official weight was. Two fifteen THAT'S
what i had to weigh in AT when i Was.
In oakland we had to weigh in. Every day every
day we walked in, the Facility, onder gruden we had
to go right to the weight room and, weigh In
and Cleveland. Would belichick we wait In every friday and
he stood there and it was fifty fifty dollars per pound.
(19:11):
Per day so if you missed your Weight, on friday
you had the Weigh. In saturday if you missed your Weight,
on saturday you had the Weigh in monday after, The
game and it was fifty dollars per pound.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Per day who ended up spending the most, back then it.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Was probably like a guy named we had offensive Guard Named,
wally williams an office of Garden Named. JEAN williams i
used to always be in the steam room with Guys
Like Eric turner steve because we were like bigger safeties
two fifteen like, to fifteen LIKE like i FELT like
I couldn't i couldn't eat to stay at, two fifteen
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you KNOW what. I mean so cause you're young and,
you're grown you. Got this, but, YEAH yeah I never
i never missed WEIGHT though i always.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
MADE it i wonder about Somebody Like Sebastian, Janet counse.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Oh that'd be a. GOOD one i, don't, KNOW man i,
don't KNOW but i Know and undergruden and it was
like every single day you walked in there and you
went and you made a beeline right for the, weight
room took your, stuff off got on.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The scale how is everybody Talks about belichick's sense. Of humor, everybody,
says oh you would, love HIM and, i, Go well
i'll never find out you you played? For, him yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
THERE wasn't, i mean you guys experience in. My, experience
yeah there wasn't a whole lot of sense. Of, humor
manka there wasn't a whole Lot of now, the guy
the guy who had a dry sense of humor who
you'd always, you know you would see him kind of
like get that little, you know you get that little smile.
And crook but saving was, like That like savan's a.
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Hard Ass now i'm. Telling you he would lose it
and then five seconds later he'd. Be laughing he was the,
guy who, FOR me i had more of the real
relationship WITH when i Was in cleve one and being
coached by those two dudes at the. SAME time, I
mean i told the story a, thousand times was, SOMETHING
like i don't know if that's for that's not for,
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the week that's. For Sure but nick is the guy
Who really nick was the guy who has a pro
really believed in my skills and really stood up for
me and. Backed me and HE'S why i Played. In, cleveland.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Well you guys weren't good enough Maybe for belichick to
have essentially humor around.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
You guys that's, True too but we made we made
the playoffs in ninety then the ninety, four season if
we could have figured out a way to like Calm
Down kevin Green And greg Lloyd And rod woodson and.
Those guys we would have made The super bowl. That
year we had the best defense in, the league but our,
offense was, let's say less than.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Not good who was? Your quarterback it was a bunch.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Of people it was it Was Uh. Vinnie. Testaverity primarily.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
We.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Just couldn't we just didn't have any. Explosive. Component man
We Had, Eric Metcalf, Tommy Vardell, Mark Carrier, michael jackson guys,
like that but we just we just couldn't put it.
Together Consistently.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Touchdown tommy there, you Go, Man, stanford yeah he scored them.
All there he didn't score them in exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
WE score i think we scored more than we did
on offense.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That year how surprised were you That the browns decided
finally to move On. From milescarrett.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
It's kind, of, Like what i'm. Not, shocked look you
know what teams that are always caught in this in
this in this state of, you know their evolution so,
to speak or, their growth which is they're always seeming, to,
reset rebuild trying to restock, the covers gain, draft picks,
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sell hope push it off till. Next year this is what.
They do eventually they get, their bet they take their
best player because they're gonna hit on somebody because they're always,
drafted high so they're gonna get somebody that has, unique
skills and eventually they'renna wind up trading them away to
reset it for the, next coach the, next coach the,
next coach the. Next coach so in, my, shock no
we sat Across From miles garrett two, YEARS ago i
(23:16):
think For a week eighteen Game of All in baltimore
where this was when he, you know he said going
into the offseason he was gonna have a Talk with
stefanski and the group there and and, you know and
kind of like try to figure out like where where
the organization. Was headed and you could, just Tell like
miles was he had done everything he could do individually
and he was just looking for. Team Success but cleveland
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was steadfast and that they weren't gonna trade him because
he's one of the best players in. The League And,
jim schwartz, you Know, and miles, you know they obviously
have been. Super Productive well schwartze, He's gone miles. Is
gone cleveland has a bunch of draft picks again and
they're selling. Hope again that's this kind, of like that's
the cycle.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
They're in i'll Give You aaron donald and, His Prime
miles garrett in. His prime oo, wee man you, know what, You.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Know i'm gonna Go. With Aaron but i'm gonna Go
with aaron for. This reason You Remember, jerry Gray old
texas defensive back and played For, the rams and he's
a good friend. Of mine Coached in WASHINGTON when i.
Was there, he, said look if you can give me
the if you gave me the choice between a guy
who can create unique transcendent pressure on the interior or
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a guy who can do it on, The exterior i'm
taking a guy in the interior because that's the shorter
distance that he has to go to get to the
quarterback and really. Disrupt Things so i'm Going.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
WITH aaron i Think the browns did pretty Well Getting.
JARED verse i know that they weren't gonna make this
move unless They. Got verse he's on his rookie deal
and he's an. Emerging PLAYER like i like the deal for,
both teams and normally you know that's not a. Hot
take we want. To give, you Know the rams are
trying to Win a Super the browns are trying to
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get back to ground zero, and, say now let's build
this with players and not get desperate Overpay For. Deshaun,
watson uh maybe Overpay For miles garrett just to keep Him. In,
cleveland now now maybe they build, this.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Thing, right, YEAH look, i, think, well yeah they have.
A chance, i mean they have the assets to. Do
it but you, know what like. See that this is WHY,
the NFL the nfl is the best business in the
world is because in the off, season now Like The cleveland, browns,
fans yeah you may not have been relevant regular season
wise when it, really counts but now in the, off
(25:39):
season which this is now obviously a, year round a
year round you know, entertainment industry they feel relevant. Right
now they're they're in, the news they're they're Feeling IS
and i shouldn't say it's just from, that standpoint because
look at the People in cleveland are trying. To win they,
they are, but again this is the cycle that they've
always been in and they have. A chance but we.
(26:01):
Know this in the, team building the team, Building, process
dan the most important part is the development and utilization of.
Those Assets the Rams and sean McVay, unless need they
know how to. Do that they know how to develop
and utilize guys that, they get and so, for them.
(26:23):
YOU'RE right i think in the end it's better for
THEM only i feel better about what they're doing THAN
what i Do with Cleveland's, with cleveland, because look as
MUCH as I Love todd MOUNKIN and, I don't i'm
not one of these people Who goes Wallas, This cleveland
cleveland's Going to CLEVELAND because i, was, THERE man i
know that place was on the right path when we.
WERE there i know we Were lo they have. A
(26:44):
SHOT but I love i Love the rams approach. THIS
offseason i think. It's perfect it's the perfect combination of
we Have a Hall of fame quarterback that we know
is year. To year we have an offense that has
great diversity, in multiplicity and we, can wait we. Can
attack we have one of the best young play callers
that the game's. Ever seen, and defensively now we Addressed Our,
(27:07):
achilles hield the reason why we lost To the seahawks
in the, first place with these corners and now now
we've got the one guy who every single team fears
when the game's on. The line and they used to
have that, guy before and that's why they Want To
super bowl before with number ninety nine on. The, inside
now the best thing That the rams can do right
(27:27):
now is get my guy to come out of retirement
and have ad Played With. Miles garrett can you IMAGINE.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Why I suggested i would have him just play? HOME games,
i would, you Know.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
But i'd have him do whatever he wants, pretty Much,
a aaron just tell me what. You want we just
want you see you've seen, him lately doesn't he can
step on the field RIGHT and i promise you'd give
you double digit sacks.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Right now i'm Talking To lewis riddick Of. The, mothership
okay if you're all In With, miles, GARRETT yep i
Can't Draft ty simpson where They Drafted. TY simpson i
JUST because i could Have gotten LEMON sedein, I could
i could get somebody who's going to help me this
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year and. Next year but, but okay so that's why
You Have matthew stafford is to.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Win, Now okay, but see, all right this Is what
lesnie's job is. To do though his job is. TO
look i believe a general manager's job is to win
now and prepare for the future and see. Around corners
that's what they that's what the.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Job, is well it's hard to win now and plan for,
the future but that's exactly what.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
He's, done, no, no.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No no their model is the. Transfer portal, they are
but they're like a college football team that doesn't deal
in young kids as much as they deal.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
In transfers but They have they have plenty of homegrown
talent on that football team that. They've drafted it just
hasn't been first, round picks but they have plenty of
guys that were draft picks.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Of, theirs yeah but you Go, good stafford you, Get
McDuffie now You Get, miles, garrett.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Right but you, Know What. Bob adams But see versus
was a. Draft Pick braydon fisk was a, draft Pick
cam kinchin's was a. Draft pick Pook and nicole was a.
Draft Pick steve avila was a. Draft pick these are
they know how, to draft but they're big.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Ticket items they're, getting transferred the ones that we.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Talk, about yeah, you're right but see here's. The thing
they're still set up to win. This year And if
matthew decides after, this year like if it's, back whatever
it is the number one position that we killed teams
for for not having taken care of, his quarterback they
can say in, their mind, they go, Guess what we've
taken care of.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That, too yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
THAT'S why i.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Like it why Did the eagles move ON from aj brown?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Chemistry personality, uh, no okay let me. Let me let
me let me back up and. Say this i'm not
Saying that aj has the. Wrong personality People in PHILADELPHIA Love.
Aj brown inside that, locker room in, that BUILDING Love.
Aj brown it just wasn't.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Mixing Anymore just jalen HEARD Love. AJ brown.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I would ask you, a question does it look like He, Does,
NO well.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I know it doesn't LOOK Like aj Brown Likes. Jalen
hurt you, know what and you.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Know what sometimes, two things those two things can, be
true and you, know what it's his best. To, go
okay you, know what let's move on addition. By, Subtraction
wow now he's with a guy who knows how to
push his buttons perfectly because he did it at one
TIME when aj Was. IN tennessee i remember seeing him
There in beast an. Absolute beast mike will get the
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best out of him. Up there he's exactly what. They
needed and then the league. Filled up it was exactly what.
They needed philly has a lot of moving parts that
they're gonna have to kind of integrate. This Year sean
mannion's got his work cutof, for him a lot of
real good. Moving parts but it was best for. Both
teams it's just Weird that.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Philadelphia has, there's turmoil, there's tension there's a story like
they were a a. Late, team yeah that's. What's amazing
you would think of functional team would have all, the
movement changing, offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators coach on the, hot
seat go to A, super bowl win A Super bowl
like this. Is wild but you know when you look
(31:13):
at what they Traded For. Aj brown so in twenty,
twenty two, first round third, round pick they get four
one thousand, yard seasons they Get Two super, bowl appearances
One super. Bowl win now he's. Twenty nine you get
a first round and a fifth. ROUND pick I Think
howie roseman did an unlivable.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Job, there yeah that's how you try To maximize that's
how you, maximize value both on the front end in
terms of the production he, gave you and then on
the back end in terms of what you received once
you decide to, move on and then what you're replacing,
him with which is A Former heisman trophy winner who
now ascends to the number one role. A Guy And,
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makay lemon who when you watch his tape looks subjectively you, would,
say look he's NOT a j burw but this dude's
gonna be a fifty to fifty five. Catch guy You Get,
eli stowers Who's The mackie award winner at, tight end
who really is a big another big. Wide receiver so
then You Get, dontavian WICKS who i really liked when he.
Was ever there's a lot still in the cupboard there.
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For them now it's Up to sewn to put it, All.
Together manion, but yeah you know what when you touch
on something that is that, is interesting is that what
it shows you is that this is a very supremely
talented football team in terms of the physical skills these
guys have and really the football character that they play
with to be able to still withstand all this stuff
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that we constantly talk about with this team and still
Get The super bowl and, win them or at least
or or be just a couple of plays away from.
Winning them What.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
If deshaun watson Starts? For cleveland, oh boy what if?
He does you KNOW what?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
I think i think in, THE end i think the
only Thing in CLEVELAND that i would, care, about honestly
it's just can we just get a season where we
have more w's. THAN els i really don't care if
he starts or if. HE doesn't, i, JUST honestly i
want the organization to not be one that we talk
about more in the off season for how good they,
(33:23):
could be and we talk about more during the season
because of how good. They are and if, he starts
that means he was the best Player and todd thought
he was the best best player at. The position and if,
he starts it's because he probably looked pretty damn good
all offseason and Beat, out shador, who supposedly according To,
coach monkin has looked pretty. Good HIMSELF so I don't,
i really you Know What i'm i'm kind of over
(33:44):
all the other Stuff, Surrounding deshaun although as MUCH as
i can't stand it and as much AS look i
was one of those People when deshaun was In at
clemson and Talking to dabbo. ABOUT him i was as
big a fan of his. As ever there was nobody
more disappointed in all the stuff he got caught up in.
Than me but in, THE end i Just want cleveland,
to win and if he's what helps, them win so.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Be it and it just Feels like cleveland's gonna have
a new quarterback.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Next year you mean in twenty twenty seven after?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
This, season yeah oh. For, sure YEAH well.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I know let me. BACK up i would lean that.
WAY myself i shouldn't say, for sure but with all
the draft capital they have now and with the way,
the draft next year will be the most. WATCHED draft i.
Don't know maybe the ONE during covid was the most watch.
Draft ever because of, the circumstances this will be the
most hyped and publicized Draft since i've been doing it
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in the past. Thirteen years it's gonna be crazy with
the number of quarterbacks, coming out and assuming that they
all play to, their potential there's gonna. Be that this
is why teams have been trying to stockpile picks for
this coming twenty, seven draft because it's gonna. Be insane
how drama filled that those three days are going TO
be i.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Cannot wait always great to talk. To you, Thank, you
lewis you Bet Thanks lewis riddick Of, THE, MOTHERSHIP espn
nfl college football analyst and he worked in a couple of.
Front offices he Worked for Washington. And philadelphia take, a
break your phone calls. Coming up we'll talk. Some basketball
we'll get you READY For nba Finals With jim jackson.
Next hour we're back.
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Speaker 4 (35:50):
Ninety Pounds.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
And i'd want to talk About the spurs And, the
knicks But the browns wouldn't stay in their lane and
excited swiped to me With The miles. Garrett trade it was,
totally shocking. You know it was batted around in, the
press but he is an all time. Defensive player, and
so to say the, very least it's tough To See
(36:13):
miles garnett Leave The cleveland browns right after a record. Setting,
season yeah but it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Was time it was time he should have left the.
PREVIOUS year i don't know if they were going to
get what they wanted in a trade because he, wanted
out and then all of a sudden they came back,
and said, you know can we buy, your love just
like we Did With Deshaun watson Fresh? In, Milwaukee, hi fresh.
Welcome back?
Speaker 4 (36:39):
WHAT'S?
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Up Dp and dan ed how you? Doing?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Today?
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Great, awesome well, YOU know i got a question for
the role.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
With This miles garrett.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Getting traded deal got me to think of what is
THE greatest nfl defensive?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Trade, EVER uh i. DON'T know i have to a
little research that unless you have an Option, Here.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Fresh charles Hayley The, real Readers.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
And reggie white signed as a free Agent With. Green,
Bay Yeah, charles haley but he Went Five, super bowls
part Of Five super bowl. Winning. Teams Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Pulling michaeh parsons To the.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Packers, recently yeah but we don't know how that's going
to play Out big at, THE time i, guess yeah but,
you know, IN retrospect I Think jerry jones did a
good job. WITH them I Like, michael parsons but you're,
paying him what forty seven million dollars and then he.
GOT hurt I think jerry did a pretty good job
(37:42):
in it that he now he put himself in that
position that He Paid michah, parsons earlier like we said
that he, should do then he probably wouldn't have come
up to that fork in the road where you had
to do something Yes, DOING yeah i.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Think that like an elite edge rusher like that should
be viewed more as a luxury if you're a team
that already has other pieces in place than like try
you can't build the.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Rest of your team around.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
That players so for him to go to Like, the
packers who have a little bit more of an established,
INFRASTRUCTURE there i think it kind of worked out well
for both.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Both. PARTIES yeah, I mean i know it's not a,
hot take and people want hot takes out. Of these
sometimes you gotta say it's not this team won and this.
Team loss sometimes it's, you know they both, Did OKAY
and i do think in This, SITUATION Philadelphia, aj brown
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there's something going on with Him And, jalen hurts and
it's been there for. A while it'll eventually, come out
but it. Felt personal now you trade him and you
get something, in return basically what you gave up to
get him and get those four seasons And two super
bowls you kind of got back. Can return it's like
(39:02):
buying a car and then trading in the car and
then you get back what you know you paid, for
it like the. Sticker, Price, Yeah pauling i've got.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
A few recent defensive trades where the person went for
two first round draft picks. At Least, Sauce, Gardner, Jets Colts.
Michaeh parsons We Mentioned. Jamal, ADAMS jamal i forgot. About
this Jets sent adams and a fourth round pick To
the seahawks for two first, round picks a Third and.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Bradley McDougald he did not too well.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
After That jalen ramsey in nineteen two first round picks and. A,
Fourth yeah Khalil Mack Oh oakland Raiders sent mac a
Second to chicago for two first and. A, third.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah, Yes, DYLAN yeah i was actually gonna Say The jamal,
adams trade and it's Just because, it's great not from
a football standpoint.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
At all it's just hilarious that one worked out that
aged like milk.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Update the.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Pole results we.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Asked, The, people dan who would you rather Have Peak
miles garrett Or Peak? Aaron donald seventy five percent Say Peak.
Aaron donald it's A little i thought it would be closer,
than that to, Be, HONEST.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, i mean this is just my Thought That aaron
donald is different than. Anybody Else miles garrett is better
than anybody else as an. Edge rusher but if YOU
said i Can Have max CROSBY or i Could Have
miles GARRETT and i can pay Less For, MAX crosby
i Would Take. Max, crosby now, you, Know Granted miles.
(40:40):
Garrett's unbelievable WHAT am i paying to? Get him?
Speaker 6 (40:46):
You know that's the.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Tricky part it's the value is in the eye of. The, Beholder,
yeah pauling You Think.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Miles garrett's can be confused when he's playing and Practicing?
In january?
Speaker 7 (40:57):
What's?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
This Yeah Or february final hour on, The way our
Good Buddy jim Jackson from fox will join us gets
ready FOR The. Nba finals two hours in, The books
paulie's in the confessional right after this