June 12, 2026 • 41 mins
Dan weighs on the Brendan Sorsby situation and wonders if Texas Tech is taking this issue seriously enough. Arkansas Head Men’s Basketball Coach John Calipari stops by to talk about the NBA Finals, the scourge of gambling in college basketball and the situation across college sports navigating NIL and recruiting – plus a story about trying to recruit Jalen Brunson. Former MLB pitcher CC Sabathia talks to Dan about whether he’s rooting for the Knicks and whether we’ll see more combo hitter/pitcher players considering Shohei Ohtani’s brilliance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
In this Meet Friday, it's a busy show. John Call Perry,
the Arkansas head coach, will stop by. He was in
the garden on Wednesday night. So is CC Sabathia, the
Cy Young Winner Hall of Famer. He'll stop by a
little bit later on kirk kurb Street. He was in
the who wasn't in the garden on Wednesday night? Herbie
will join us a little bit later on as well.
(00:25):
The Hurricanes over the Golden Nights up three to two.
Series goes back to Vegas as they win at four
to two. Nick Spurs Game five will be Saturday at
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DP show. It is a Meet Friday. Chef Greg from
(00:49):
Rectech is here whipping up a batch. Dylan, would you
give us the menu today?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I will, Dan.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
We got brisket and Budan Cigars, Eggirls get Philly Pete sandwich,
which is a essentially using pizza dough as a sandwich
as the bread.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Okay and smoked beef back ribs.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Who is it better than we do? No, we say
good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner,
NBC Sports Network, O our radio affiliates including iHeartRadio, Fox
Sports Radio. Whole question for hour two is going to
be what then we'll get to coach cal Perry.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Paul actually sent this one over.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You can have free ticket to one of these the
NBA Finals, the Stanley Cup Final.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Or the World Cup World Cup.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, he said that quickly.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well I've done the other ones haven't done a World Cup,
so yeah, okay, Team USA versus Paraguay coming up later
on today. Alrighty, he is Arkansas head coach. He won
a national championship back in twenty twelve, three times Naysmith
College Coach of the Year. Well look at all the
(01:59):
awards that he Scott and he was in the garden
for Game four wearing a suit as if you were
coaching the game. How did you end up at the
garden on Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Come on?
Speaker 7 (02:10):
Now, you know Carl Towns is in that game, dearon
Fox is in that game. Calvin Johnson's in that game.
I can call Leon and West and say, hey, boys,
I need a ticket, and uh, you know they were
a little steep, they were expensive.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Wait you had to buy them?
Speaker 7 (02:30):
No, I bet?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, Well I'm going to feel bad that you had
to spend money to see your former players, but you
didn't show up like you were ready to coach in
a game. When's the last time you thought about coaching
in the NBA or you were broached about coaching in
the NBA?
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Yeah, no, I my path. I ran this path and
and when everybody asked me about decisions in the NBA, this,
this game and that game, and I want to talk
about some of this stuff today because it's driving me crazy.
But I have to remind everybody I coached the Nets
and they fired me. So why are you asking me
(03:10):
what I would do in an NBA game? But you know, no,
that game. I got to tell you that game what's
driving me crazy. I heard the guy get on before
I jumped on here and say, you know this is
the worst that he must add money on the game,
because if you're watching that just as a fan, that's
(03:31):
pure enjoyment. Now, well, I was so excited about we're
in New York. The fans did not boo the Knicks
at all one time during that game. Now they booed
the officials and they got on pretty hard, but they didn't.
All they were there was to give them a chance
and to pick them up and even down. When we
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all went down in the dugout after at halftime, all
the fans down there, all those stars that I was
like taking a back from, they were all still into
the game. It was a great sight to see. And
I'm just telling everybody, instead of picking it apart each player,
(04:13):
how about we just enjoy what's happening because this may
be one of the better finals ever and we're able
to sit there and join it, some of us lucky
enough to be in the building. Now, how many people
will say they were at game four twenty years from now,
ten million, I was at the game. I was at
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the game. Well, you weren't at the game. There was
only twenty thousand there.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But coach, you can say I was at the garden.
That doesn't mean you were in the garden. So you're
going to have people who were probably semantics. I was
at the garden that night, and nobody can refute that
that's true.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
That figures you'd come up with something. Of course, yeah,
because you'll be one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But go ahead, okay, are you new to social media
that we don't pick apart players and the team and
the moments?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
What are you talking about here?
Speaker 6 (05:06):
All right?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
So here's my point. And as I go through this,
I say this, but this is the life we chose,
and you're gonna get the other side of it. Let
me say this, Daron Fox, stop on the Aaron Fox.
He's playing with the high ankles. Fray probably shouldn't be playing.
He would normally dunk that layup, dunk that layup. If
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he would have dumped it, he's the hero, the greatest
thing that and now he's the biggest goat and he
made Well what about other guys in the game. What
would have happened to Josh if he missed that dunkin
they had lost? I mean, so you can't how about
they want to get on Mitch, who I think is
doing a great job with a young team. Okay, Ronnie
(05:52):
Harper's son is the real deal. I did not realize
how good he was until I sat there and watched him.
I couldn't he was going to Rutgers. The whole time
I tried.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You couldn't afford him.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
No, they were, they were paying big at that time. No,
not really, he was going there from day one. I
don't know why he was from near there or something,
but anyway, So now Mitch runs an out of bounds
play the last play with one point two whatever, the
guy is wide open. They're going to win the game,
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and Carl Town gets his little pinky and deflex it
where the kid has to reach down to go get
the ball, and they win the game. You could do
everything right and lose, and you're right, it's the life
you chose. You're gonna get crap. But the three the
Jalen made. How about the step back that Carl made
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into their bench for a three? I'm like, what am
I watching?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, but we were seeing mistakes, coach, And if you
were coaching, you would told you would have told Darren
Fox that the points aren't important. It's getting you know,
time off the clock that's the most important.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
But two points doesn't we have a game?
Speaker 7 (07:14):
Depends on how you coach. Sometimes I'm saying there's three
minutes in a game and we're up whatever, I'll say
we're four baskets away. They can't catch us. That's another
way of coaching that we're four we get four more buckets.
They can't catch us. There's not enough time. And so
(07:34):
sometimes when you play defense in football, what do they
call it, You're like, okay, let's really prevent defense, so
it prevents you from winning. How about if he dribbled
it out and got fouled. How about Wendy missed two
freaks throws?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I agree, I agree. These are so you're yeah, but.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
That's not the Let me tell you this. In the
first half, they were so good that we're gonna have
eighty eighty points at halftime, and I'm sitting there's something
you can do. What are you gonna get on? Mike?
You know the greatest thing Mike did. Mike Brown left
Alvarado in. He left him in when Alvarado made that shot,
(08:16):
I'm like, my thought is, probably need to take him out. Now,
he helped you. Now let's go. Mike left him in.
He makes another shot, he makes a basket and plows
him down. I'm like saying, so some of this is
your gut, some of it is a bounce of the ball.
But here's again, Dan, are you in Maine right now?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (08:35):
No, no, no, I'm at the home Bandkiff.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Okay, so how about just toes up watch the game.
But problem is there's betting, and that drives everything to
another level. That guy probably lost a grand and he
wants to kill somebody wish would have won. I could
have won five grand and I lost it. You know,
(08:59):
I take that. I'm not even you know, I'm not worried.
I'm watching the game thinking I just watched one of
the great games of all time. I sat next to
Adam Sandler and his wife Jackie, who were great Chris Rock.
I went up. I'm standing there and John McEnroe was
(09:21):
walking by me and he looks at me and I
shake his hand. I said, I'm John. Caliperry said, I
know you are, coach. I don't know who knows me,
who doesn't know me, but all the stuff. But the
fans never boomed, never left either. It's come on, now,
you've been to New York stuff. I don't care if
it's the Yankees, the Giants, the Jets, the Mets, you'll
(09:43):
get booed like in a second. These people are so
you know what it is. It's they're all in this together.
You could feel it and build he was crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
He's the Hall of Fame coach John Calier Perry joining
us on the program. Did you recruit Jalen Brunson? A
great story.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
He played in West Virginia in a tournament and I'm
watching him, saying, this kid's really good, already going to Villanova.
What he committed to Villanova? What I get Jay?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Right?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
I'm watching the kid with Jay right on the phone.
I said, Jay, I see this kid down here. It's
down to you and us now because I'm recuting out
of this skit and Jay and I bust out laughing.
I even called him the other day and I said, Jay,
you got three guys that won you two national titles,
are ready to win a world championship like you. And
(10:35):
again we talked about kat when we talked about dn Folx,
what about Keldon Johnson. Keldon Johnson is sixth Man of
the Year. Allowed step back from being a starter so
he could be one of these guys. I mean, and
for him, Jay and me to sit there and watch
all this stuff, nothing makes you prouder when you're watching
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and he's going to defend his look. Jalen threw a
ball a way that almost cost him a game. He
got a little trapped, he looked away and threw it.
Josh gave up an offensive rebound that was going to
be the game. He missed a breakaway dunk. But you
know what, Jay would defend his guys, and I'm gonna
defend mine. I mean, I think they all three played well.
(11:20):
One's playing with a bad ankle. But I'll come back
to it is the life we chose.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yes, how aware are you of the point spread for
your games at Arkansas?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Never don't want to know, but it's always there.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
It's omnipresent. Coach.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
So I had a guy when I was at Kentucky.
I had a guy that would be with us and
he knew that I knew, he knew the point spread.
And if we were going to a game and he
would say it's eighteen, I was so happy. I'd sit
back because there's some of the guys aren't wrong. They're like, oh,
I know, But if we're going to a game and
(12:02):
I'm thinking, yeah, we're double digit here, And if I
asked him and he said, yeah, it's a four point
four points, what how's it? Only? Oh shit, they know
something we don't know. So that's why I don't want
to know either way. Yeah, I don't. I'm not. I'm
not looking at it thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, I just I look at the authority of the
NC double I don't do they have authority when it.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Comes not now?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
No? No, And I hey, look that the that the
stuff this has gotten away from us. Do I think
putting the government involved in our business is going to work?
Probably not? Who wants the government involved. But we're at
the point, at least short term a two year anti
(12:54):
just two years for us to get stuff away from
the courts. How do we make whatever these lawsuits are
go to federal court not state because state has We're
gonna let him play. Yeah, I don't care what he did. Well,
he grows out, couldn't do this. This guy's out in it. Yeah,
(13:16):
we're gonna have this guy one game penalty. What but
it's in state court, it's not federal and so that
kind of stuff. But yeah, we need help right now.
Would I hope that we wouldn't need government? Yeah, but
I'm in this. We cannot leave college sports the way
it is another year cannot So whatever we do, we
(13:39):
got to do something, whether it's the build that's out
there right now, whether it's a scaled back for a
two year reprieve. I don't know, but we need to
do something.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, I need an answer on this last question. Okay,
what year did.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
You miss those layups in our gym? Did you play
for Donald Hurt? Did you play for him at Dayton? Right?
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Coach was there when I was there?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
He was an assistant there then.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, no, he was head coach. I was gonna say, no,
I didn't miss any layups at U Mass.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Yes you did. No. No, See they said he does
the radio. This is an nc double A And I said, hey,
you are crazy. How can he talk basketball? He can't
make layups? How does that work?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
This is an NCAA violation because you're lying right now.
If I put you under oath, would you have said
what you just said?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Coach fifth?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Okay, Okay, I want an answer. Okay, promise me you
will give me an answer on this. A name, okay,
promise yeah, Okay, give me the most important player for
whether it was at Kentucky. Well, let's say Kentucky. Who
was the most important player you had at Kentucky? Not
(14:53):
best most important player? Well, let me say this, and
you can even do Memphis if you want to.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Mention some names.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Okay, Darius a Cup should be a top four, maybe
even way better, maybe one or two in this draft.
Malik Thomas should be in this first round. And because
of what the Knicks did where they're playing veteran guys
that went to college for four years, you got og
he went, he went for a couple of years. Carl's
(15:23):
the only one that went one year, but he's been
in the league seven years. Though. That's giving Trevn Brazil
a second look, like, hey, we need to take a
guy that's been in college four years and do what
the Knicks did, and then my guy, Darius and Malik
as young kids. Someone's getting a good player. Does that
answer your question?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Because I think Marcus Camby is probably the most important
player a time career.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
How does the guy lead like him lead? You mess?
We were top twenty, but when he came he became
number one in the country. He is a top fifty
player in high school or college in the history of
our game. He's the top fifty. They can name all
these guys what he did at UMass. He's the top
(16:15):
fifty player and the greatest guy. To this day. He
and I still stay in touch, and I thank him
for what he did for my career because by us
getting him helped my career screw up even more.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And back then you couldn't pay people above board, so
you had to pay him under the table.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
You know how I recruited him. When I went in
he said, I said, what do you want to be?
He said, I want to be a shooting guard. He's
six eleven. He want to be a shooting guard. But
we really needed this guy, and so I said, well, listen,
I'm not going to lie to you. If you want
to be a shooting guard, I'm going to let you
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be a shooting Now follow up with but we do
post our shooting guards a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just great to talk to you. Enjoy the rest of
the basketball and thanks again.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Hey, let's just share these guys on and.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Of course, of course, yeah, mister positive, No, yeah, John Caliperi,
mister positive, Thank you coach. All right, thanks, that's John Calipari.
All shame mister positivity when it comes to his players,
all the other stuff we can be negative about. Uh,
(17:34):
he's always entertaining. All right, take a break, settle on
our poll question.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
C C.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Sabathia will join us. I didn't want to talk to
him about this. I want to know, you know what,
I'll just wait. I got a lot of questions. One
has to do with does he Thinkotani is the greatest
player of all time? And I want to talk about
all of these pictures. You know, miss Rowski is throwing
one hundred three. Then it's nothing. Where are we headed?
(18:02):
So CC Sabbathia will join us next.
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Speaker 2 (18:45):
Pauly goes, John Caliperry blew right By that comment that
you were talking about with Marcus Camby, you know, back
then you couldn't pay him above board, you were paying
him under the table.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
He didn't even bite on it. He was like moved
on right from that. Yeah, Paul, you meant like the
royal you like everybody in college, something like that, something
like that.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
CC Sabathia Hall of Famer, World Series Champ and Oh
nine had a chance to spend some time with him
a couple of days ago. He's got a podcast. It's
on Peacock MLB, according to CC, Wednesday at five Eastern
on Peacock NBC Sports now also available as a podcast.
He was there on Wednesday night and I started my
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conversation by asking him, are you a diehard Knicks fan?
Speaker 8 (19:36):
No, I'm just I'm reaching it with basketball. I'm a
die hard Raider, So I take so much abuse in
the fall that by the winter time, whoever's winning in basketball,
I just roll with that squad.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
So I got lucky this year over the Knicks. So
I got to go to the Darden.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Okay, But when you were playing in New York with
the Yankees, how often would you go to a Knicks game?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I went lot of time.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
I went out of time because I gave up my
Warrior season. Tickets right then because when I was in UH,
when I was still in Cleveland, I had Warrior season tickets,
so I would go to the games in the offseason.
Then I had to give those up when we moved
here full time, so I started going to the garden.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Who would you sit next to like celebrities?
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Yeah, I mean I sat next to Tracy Morgan, I
sat next to Spike before Chris Rod, Jon Stewart, the whole,
the whole, the whole game.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
What about Yankee teammates that came to the games.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
H Judge came to the games with me a couple
of times. I had a teammate, Bean Francisco came with
me a couple of times. And then like we would
we would get sweets. If all of us were going,
we would get like a big suite to go to
the game. But we've always supported the next.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
But when you played with the Yankees, how often or
how where were you of celebrities there?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Oh, you know, you know who's there, like, uh, when
Laura and Michael was sitting back there, or whoever is
sitting back there, Like you know, who's who's in the house,
And like people pay attention to that for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But they especially in New York, but they come down
on the field pregame.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Depending on who it was.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
But but even if they were just sitting like right
there in legends back there, yeah, I mean you could
you can see who was who was there, So we
were always paying.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Attention to that.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Did you acknowledge them?
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Yeah, if you if you were if you were good enough,
you can acknowledge them.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
When you're winning, it helps everything.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yes, I was curious about this when Princey said, hey,
you want to get CC on and that is would
you rather throw ninety five but you had movement or
let's say you're throwing one o three like Jacob Mizerowski
and maybe it's just one o three, but straight.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I would take the ninety five with movement, just because
I feel like I can I can pitch with that
and be able to kind of move it around the plate.
I mean, even if I mean, if it depends on
one of four, right with the one on three like
miss Rowski. I think it's his trouble before this year
was they didn't throw enough strikes. I think in the
last six weeks just throwing the ball over the plate.
(22:15):
He throws so hard that even if you're on time,
you've fouled it off, fouled off a couple of times,
they didn't get to his breaking ball. So I think
it's just about being able. Whatever you can throw for
a strike is what you should throw. So Mitts could
throw one hundred and three, but he can't throw that
for a strike. And maybe he should throw ninety eight
so that he can throw strikes and kind of move
the ball around the plate and be able to pitch
a little bit. So I think the biggest thing that
(22:37):
you're seeing in his and the difference in what he's
doing now is that he's actually just throwing the ball
over the plate. He had four walks in all of
may you know what I'm saying, So that right, I
mean him just like literally attacking offenses. I mean, with
him being able to throw that hardest. I mean, there's
really nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Mark Grace once told me, he said, we'll catch up
to a fastball. You can throw it, like, well, we'll
hit a fastball. It's the other stuff that we have
trouble with.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
I mean even if you look at like Mo, Mo
threw one pitch his whole career, and everybody kind of
knew which way it was going or felt like they
had a beat on it. And he's the greatest pitcher
of all time, you know what I mean. So so
if you can make the ball move and get it
off the barrel a little bit, it's so hard to
hit even if you know what's coming.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Because people people.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Felt like they knew what Marionnod' was gonna throw and
still couldn't get to him.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Was that teachable? That pitch?
Speaker 8 (23:33):
It's teachable, Yes, it's teachable. You could throw a cutter,
but you can't throw it like him, you know what
I'm saying. Like he taught me how to throw that.
That's that's the cutter out through at the end of
my career, same one Billy Connor's taught him, taught Andy
Pettitt All. Every every Yankee learned that cutter from Billy,
but most is just different. Like you play catch with them,
(23:55):
it moves late. Who's different. I've seen them hit people
in the chest with it. I've seen to hit people
in the face with it like and he's telling them
it's coming. So yes, you I mean, you can learn
the grip and you can learn the philosophy of like
where to throw it, but nothing's going to be.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Like his Okay, but is that the most unhittable pitch
in the history of baseball?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
I mean, and I think it's because everybody knew it
was coming, like for twenty years. You know what he's throwing.
I mean, he started throwing the two seamer at the end,
maybe like the last three years, but for seventeen years straight.
I mean, in the playoffs, everything, He's pitching in the
biggest moments and people feel like they know what's coming
and still can't get him on the bear.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Okay, what other pitch would be like Phil Nekro's knuckleball was.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Like Johan Santana's change up.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Oh my goodness, his change.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Up was was I mean, it was off the charge.
He would throw that thing right down the middle. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
If you mean it, yeah, if you guessed right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
It's so good that he's just throwing it right down
the middle. That's how.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Harold Old Reynolds showed me a video. He said, I'm
gonna show you a side by side of Johann Santana's
release point fastball change up.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
It was exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, he said, Now imagine being at the plate and
you got to decide is he throwing a fastball or
a change up? I mean he said that it was
impossible to tell.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Yeah, you literally have to guess. You gotta pick one.
And like you said, it looked exactly the same. And
the arm speed that he that he threw it with,
I think it helped all. I mean, I know it
helped me just watching him be able to throw it
as hard as he could. It helped me be able
to like trust that I can throw this thing as
hard as I can and it's gonna the grip is
gonna take the speed off, and the scenes are gonna make.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
The ball move.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
So having a chance to like watch him up close
for so long in that division definitely helped me watch
change up.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
CC Sabbathia Hall of Famer World Series Champono nine with
the Yankees Tommy john surgery feels almost a rite of passage.
It's inevitable for these pictures.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Now, Yeah, it seems that way. I mean even younger, right,
guys would coming to baseball with Tommy Johns at this.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Point, and I tell the story that I have a
physical therapist. He said he had two different parents who
came to him and said, can you help us get
Tommy John surgery? And their sons were one was fourteen,
one was fifteen. They were getting it before they needed
Tommy John's surgery.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
That's what they try to do to get the rehab
to be able to to throw harder. Like people just assume. Well,
I mean even now too, like kids are pos, which
are pitchers only, which I don't understand. Like the funniest
part about playing baseball is being able to play the field.
Like who just wants to pitch your whole life?
Speaker 6 (26:47):
You know what I'm saying. So it's even weird to
see that.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
But yeah, I mean the guys that are pos that
feel like they want to pitch, you know in college
or you know, maybe in the pros, they feel like,
you know, there's only so many throws in your arm,
and at some point you're gonna have to have Tommy John.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
I've never had Tommy John. I was always on pitch counts.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
Even as a young as a young kid, my dad
had me on pitchcounts, make sure only three once a week,
all these different things.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
So my arm is pretty healthy up until you know,
my last year.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
But I just think people try to get ahead of
it now, where you know, they feel like if a
guy's gonna throw this much or a kid's gonna throw
as much, let's go ahead and get the surgery out
of the way, and you know, try to try to
see if he can get to the big leagues. But yeah,
that's what I'm saying, Like, guys now are coming to
pro ball with one Tomy John already and then maybe
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had him two while they're while they're playing.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Otani's had the surgery and he's had a procedure. But
I wonder how many imitators is he going to create
in five years, ten years that we do let somebody
hit and pitch if they're like Schemes was a great
hitter in an Air Force academy. I mean, he was
a power hitter. I'm surprised that the Pirates wouldn't say, way,
(28:01):
why don't we do get this novelty with Schemes and
get him out there more often?
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Absolutely, Oregon Jack Kaglio right, like he went to Florida.
He's a first rounder for Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
He can do both.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
I mean, but even like there's always guys that can
do both, right, I felt I heard Dave Winfield was
a great pitcher in college and you know, was able
to kind of do both. I would have thought by
now it would be way more guys, you know what,
at least the opportunity to hit and pitch.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
But even just.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Seeing how good Kaglion was in college doing both and
then them just kind of turning them into a hitter,
seems like, you know, it is just you know, just
one off with show Hayes, you know, the greatest baseball
player of all time, and he's the only one that
gets to you know, can do it on this level.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
So I mean, hopefully there are more guys that can
do this.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
I don't think anybody's gonna be able to do it
on the level that he's doing it, but there's definitely
guys that can you know, do both.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Wait, you think he's going to be the greatest player
of all time. I think he already is the greatest
of all time.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Who's better?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well, I mean, babe, did I mean he won ninety
two games as his starter and then you hit seven
hundred and fourteen home runs and.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, that was a different time though.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Now he's playing in the era where this is the
biggest fastest strongest era that we've ever seen. And he's
the fastest, he's the biggest, he's the best.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
I mean, you know, you combine him.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
He's one of the best hitters in the league, and
he's one of the best pitchers in the league. And
to be able to do it in this era, I think,
you know, my dope to me is Barry Bonds, like
I'll never you know, he's always number one, But Barry
can't go on through seven shut out.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Any PAULI, did you have CC's hitting stints?
Speaker 11 (29:44):
Yeah, for his career, CEC hit two oh seven, three
home runs, fifteen rbidm no steals.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
You know, I how to higher band average until like
those last three years, and I was like, I was
just trying to like hold on to like that two fifty.
You won't say it sounds so bad. I he did
like two fifty to those last three years.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Okay, who did you homer off of? Since it's only
three you got to remember.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Yeah, I hit a homer off Homer Bailey, Chanhoe Park
and Elizardo Ramirez those are the three guys.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Did you get those home run balls back?
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Well, Griffy the first one I hit, he threw it
back in the stand. Only have the back from that ball,
I don't have I don't from that game. I don't
have the ball, and yeah I got another two back.
But yeah, Griffy, Griffy threw the ball back in the stand.
Why he was like with a swing like that, No
way that was.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I knew.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You're doing some great things with playing with Heart. Can
you explain that to the audience.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
What you're doing.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Yeah, Playing with Heart is a campaign that you know,
I'm here to represent, you know, just to help adults understand.
You know, bad cholesterol and cholesterol number twenty eighteen. I
had a stint put in my heart and you know,
it changed my life. So you know, if I can
be here to try to help somebody and you know,
understand and talk to this physician to understand, you know,
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there might be you know, underlying things that that goal
with you that you can't see it, you can't feel.
But if you go and check a cholesterol you may
be able to get ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, it's called playing with Heart and collaboration with nine
teams the Yankees, Giants, Red Sox, Phillies, Braves, Cardinals, Astros,
Padres and the Angels, the focus is simple, and that's urgent.
Know what your cholesterol number is. Great to see you again,
Thanks for joining us always and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Sounds good.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
CC Sabbathia.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
He has a podcast on Peacock MLB according to CC
and Wednesdays at five pm Eastern and NBC now available
as a podcast. He's really good. I don't know if
he knows how good he is. But when these guys
tell stories and or sometimes you jar their memory, like
the fact that Griffy wouldn't give him the home run
(32:04):
ball because he had such a lame home run swing.
Andy were like, no, no, no, you don't get to
keep that. As he keeps sick, we'll take a break.
We'll get to more phone calls right after this. Fox
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it's a meat Friday. It's always great. Go out to
the grills. You know, when you see somebody who does
this professionally, Chef Greg from Rectec, you know their imagination, creativity,
and he is so cool under fire. Literally, he just
like no big deal. I'll have this done in time. Yes, Dylan,
(32:47):
it feels almost like a direct shot at me. No, No, No,
you do a great job. Oh is this the back row?
I need a little pat on the back.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, that'd be nice.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
It's kind of contagious there with you and Fritzy.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Something's contagious back here.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Todd goes, uh, you know I did book five guests today.
I go, yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Think we had five guests yesterday to I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
I got to check them out of it.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Wow, five plus five? Are we going to do this
every day?
Speaker 7 (33:13):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:13):
There are days where we've had no guests.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Okay, one guest, but you know, I still have to
make magic. Do you get the guests? That's just the start.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
It's meaningless.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You have to interview them and get something interesting out
of them. Anyone could just pull guests out of.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It, but you don't have to pull me to the
side and go, hey, five guests and I go, okay,
let's thot.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I need a little extra acknowledgment.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
There was a little extra special.
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Speaker 2 (34:08):
Herbie was in the garden on Wednesday night, Thomas and Iowa, Hi, Thomas,
what do you have for me today?
Speaker 10 (34:15):
They guys got a sixty three to eighty. I just
want to bring up that Soarsby case. There's a there's
a lot of bad stuff going on in SCA A
college coaches poaching other players, transfer port Oh, there's like
they're all they're all in. But I feel that right
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now with this case, that they all can come together,
that there's a line that you don't cross, and that's gambling.
I feel bad for the kid. There's other ways he
can get at I go play football game, but it
shouldn't be in college sports. It's just set a tone.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Well, I think in what I'm being told by a source,
they're hoping that this kind of bubbles up where Brendan
Sos goes in the supplemental draft, and I think the
deadline for that is June twenty third, that he would
have to declare for the supplemental Draft. I don't see
it that way. And look, this is just business. We
can get rid of the all. You know, this is altruistic.
(35:16):
We want to take care of this child. Don't put
his gambling addiction and rehab in front as a shield,
because if he wasn't a great college player, you wouldn't
be doing this.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
He's a great player. He's in the transfer portal. You
got him.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
A judge ruled two game suspension for gambling. This is
on the judge. Texas Tech is saying, hey, you know
what I mean. We went through the legal process. He
went through the legal process. We're going to take a
shot with this, all right. I understand that. And if
he was at Kansas State or some other school, they
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would be doing the same thing. I know that we
can all be like, oh, you know, for the betterment
of the game, what decision has been made in the
last five years for the betterment of the game itself.
Everything is selfish everybody. I mean, they did tighten the
transfer portal, but they had to, so, you know, we
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want these philanthropic decisions. They're not happening. This is big business.
Brendan Soresby is going to be able to play according
to a judge. Now, do I think it's wrong, Yes,
it's gambling.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
If you were betting on your team, you got information
you were betting on your team, did you share that information?
Did you bet against your team? What did Cincinnati know
about this kid's gambling issue? And they didn't do anything.
Now he goes to Texas Tech. Did Texas Tech know
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about this? So there's a lot of guilty parties here
finger pointing all of that. I don't like it. I
have given you the warning signs. I've given you the
ugly side of gambling and what it can lead to.
And it's eighteen to twenty four year olds and he's
got nil money. He has an addiction problem.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
You can't sit here and go you know what. We
are fully behind him. We don't want this to have
irreparable harm on him. If he doesn't get to play football.
Never we were told that irreparable harm. Well, you suspending
for two games? Is there any irreparable harm for being
suspended for two games? How about you don't suspend him
(37:45):
for anything. If that's the way you're going to go, like,
let's not make a mockery of it. You know what,
he served his punishment. He's not going to be able
to play against Evelene Christian and Oregon State. That'll teach him,
he'll learn his life lesson. Two games doesn't change anything.
And if you're going to go all in on it,
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don't suspend him any games. But it's business, always understand
bottom line business. Are they gonna Are they going to
be around this kid the rest of his life? I mean,
is Texas Tech going to fully embrace him because they're
worried about irreparable harm? You know, he's gonna be one
(38:28):
of ours for a year. Okay, I hope you're around
him the rest of his life. Take care of him,
because that's certainly the inference you're giving me. We're gonna,
we're gonna be there. We're like a seat belt for you.
We're always going to have your back.
Speaker 11 (38:46):
Yes, And if this happens going forward, with the third
string linebacker at Texas Tech. You'll go to court, You'll
back him up, You'll completely back him because that's it's
about caring for the kids in their future.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yes, and any other school, these kids can now say
that that's going to cause you irreparable harm. There's precedent here.
That's what makes me nervous. There's precedent here. But hey,
this is college football. You got schools that are spending
forty million dollars on their football rosters. Okay, and here's
(39:21):
the thing. You never have to apologize for winning. Okay,
Urban Meyer at Florida, Eh, you know, we got a
couple of guys that are kind of shaky.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I don't know. Somebody shot somebody.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Big deal.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
We won? Yeah, yeah, you did. Michigan.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, I don't know. What he was doing on the sideline,
might have been something to Farya is there. But we
won a national title. That is the great bath that
you can take and get you rid of everything.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
It's a Cleanton Texas Tech if they win.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I would make him bet his five million dollar nil
on Texas Tech to win the national title. I think
that's a great idea. I'm just joking, yes, doing.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
I was actually looking, funnily enough, at the betting lines
for Big twelve games. Texas Tech is nowhere to be
found at the moment.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And these other schools saying, oh, we're not going to
play Texas Tech. Yes you are, Yes you are.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
I know.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, Hey, we're not because you don't want to put
yourself in a position to be under the microscope with
some of the things that might be going on at
your university.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Also, it's like if you went to Sarkesian or whatever
and Texas is going to play Texas Tech and you're like, Hey,
the quarterback might be shaving points on the other team.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Do you want to play them? He's like, so it's
going to be even easier to win.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I'd love to ask this judge, Hey, if Texas Tech
opened with Texas, let's say in Cowboys Stadium, are you
going to suspend him for the first two games of
the regular season, including that game, m.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
We're gonna suspend him for the second two games?
Speaker 5 (41:07):
You got to teach him a lesson, Yes, Paul, it'd
be a great question.
Speaker 11 (41:10):
Did the judge look at the Tech football schedule before
he made his ruling?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Because there'll be no reason to.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
And third game is Houston, which is a legitimate game
for them, but he'll be back in time. West Kirkirk
Street about this. Herbie'll join us and we'll talk some
soccer as well. Former USA goalkeeper Brad Kazan. I am
going into the confessional. If you're watching on Peacock
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our two.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
In this Meet Friday, it's a busy show. John Call Perry,
the Arkansas head coach, will stop by. He was in
the garden on Wednesday night. So is CC Sabathia, the
Cy Young Winner Hall of Famer. He'll stop by a
little bit later on kirk kurb Street. He was in
the who wasn't in the garden on Wednesday night? Herbie
will join us a little bit later on as well.
(00:25):
The Hurricanes over the Golden Nights up three to two.
Series goes back to Vegas as they win at four
to two. Nick Spurs Game five will be Saturday at
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DP show. It is a Meet Friday. Chef Greg from
(00:49):
Rectech is here whipping up a batch. Dylan, would you
give us the menu today?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I will, Dan.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
We got brisket and Budan Cigars, Eggirls get Philly Pete sandwich,
which is a essentially using pizza dough as a sandwich
as the bread.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Okay and smoked beef back ribs.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Who is it better than we do? No, we say
good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner,
NBC Sports Network, O our radio affiliates including iHeartRadio, Fox
Sports Radio. Whole question for hour two is going to
be what then we'll get to coach cal Perry.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Paul actually sent this one over.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You can have free ticket to one of these the
NBA Finals, the Stanley Cup Final.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Or the World Cup World Cup.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, he said that quickly.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well I've done the other ones haven't done a World Cup,
so yeah, okay, Team USA versus Paraguay coming up later
on today. Alrighty, he is Arkansas head coach. He won
a national championship back in twenty twelve, three times Naysmith
College Coach of the Year. Well look at all the
(01:59):
awards that he Scott and he was in the garden
for Game four wearing a suit as if you were
coaching the game. How did you end up at the
garden on Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Come on?
Speaker 7 (02:10):
Now, you know Carl Towns is in that game, dearon
Fox is in that game. Calvin Johnson's in that game.
I can call Leon and West and say, hey, boys,
I need a ticket, and uh, you know they were
a little steep, they were expensive.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Wait you had to buy them?
Speaker 7 (02:30):
No, I bet?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, Well I'm going to feel bad that you had
to spend money to see your former players, but you
didn't show up like you were ready to coach in
a game. When's the last time you thought about coaching
in the NBA or you were broached about coaching in
the NBA?
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Yeah, no, I my path. I ran this path and
and when everybody asked me about decisions in the NBA, this,
this game and that game, and I want to talk
about some of this stuff today because it's driving me crazy.
But I have to remind everybody I coached the Nets
and they fired me. So why are you asking me
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what I would do in an NBA game? But you know, no,
that game. I got to tell you that game what's
driving me crazy. I heard the guy get on before
I jumped on here and say, you know this is
the worst that he must add money on the game,
because if you're watching that just as a fan, that's
(03:31):
pure enjoyment. Now, well, I was so excited about we're
in New York. The fans did not boo the Knicks
at all one time during that game. Now they booed
the officials and they got on pretty hard, but they didn't.
All they were there was to give them a chance
and to pick them up and even down. When we
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all went down in the dugout after at halftime, all
the fans down there, all those stars that I was
like taking a back from, they were all still into
the game. It was a great sight to see. And
I'm just telling everybody, instead of picking it apart each player,
(04:13):
how about we just enjoy what's happening because this may
be one of the better finals ever and we're able
to sit there and join it, some of us lucky
enough to be in the building. Now, how many people
will say they were at game four twenty years from now,
ten million, I was at the game. I was at
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the game. Well, you weren't at the game. There was
only twenty thousand there.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But coach, you can say I was at the garden.
That doesn't mean you were in the garden. So you're
going to have people who were probably semantics. I was
at the garden that night, and nobody can refute that
that's true.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
That figures you'd come up with something. Of course, yeah,
because you'll be one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But go ahead, okay, are you new to social media
that we don't pick apart players and the team and
the moments?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
What are you talking about here?
Speaker 6 (05:06):
All right?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
So here's my point. And as I go through this,
I say this, but this is the life we chose,
and you're gonna get the other side of it. Let
me say this, Daron Fox, stop on the Aaron Fox.
He's playing with the high ankles. Fray probably shouldn't be playing.
He would normally dunk that layup, dunk that layup. If
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he would have dumped it, he's the hero, the greatest
thing that and now he's the biggest goat and he
made Well what about other guys in the game. What
would have happened to Josh if he missed that dunkin
they had lost? I mean, so you can't how about
they want to get on Mitch, who I think is
doing a great job with a young team. Okay, Ronnie
(05:52):
Harper's son is the real deal. I did not realize
how good he was until I sat there and watched him.
I couldn't he was going to Rutgers. The whole time
I tried.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You couldn't afford him.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
No, they were, they were paying big at that time. No,
not really, he was going there from day one. I
don't know why he was from near there or something,
but anyway, So now Mitch runs an out of bounds
play the last play with one point two whatever, the
guy is wide open. They're going to win the game,
(06:31):
and Carl Town gets his little pinky and deflex it
where the kid has to reach down to go get
the ball, and they win the game. You could do
everything right and lose, and you're right, it's the life
you chose. You're gonna get crap. But the three the
Jalen made. How about the step back that Carl made
(06:52):
into their bench for a three? I'm like, what am
I watching?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, but we were seeing mistakes, coach, And if you
were coaching, you would told you would have told Darren
Fox that the points aren't important. It's getting you know,
time off the clock that's the most important.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
But two points doesn't we have a game?
Speaker 7 (07:14):
Depends on how you coach. Sometimes I'm saying there's three
minutes in a game and we're up whatever, I'll say
we're four baskets away. They can't catch us. That's another
way of coaching that we're four we get four more buckets.
They can't catch us. There's not enough time. And so
(07:34):
sometimes when you play defense in football, what do they
call it, You're like, okay, let's really prevent defense, so
it prevents you from winning. How about if he dribbled
it out and got fouled. How about Wendy missed two
freaks throws?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I agree, I agree. These are so you're yeah, but.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
That's not the Let me tell you this. In the
first half, they were so good that we're gonna have
eighty eighty points at halftime, and I'm sitting there's something
you can do. What are you gonna get on? Mike?
You know the greatest thing Mike did. Mike Brown left
Alvarado in. He left him in when Alvarado made that shot,
(08:16):
I'm like, my thought is, probably need to take him out. Now,
he helped you. Now let's go. Mike left him in.
He makes another shot, he makes a basket and plows
him down. I'm like saying, so some of this is
your gut, some of it is a bounce of the ball.
But here's again, Dan, are you in Maine right now?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (08:35):
No, no, no, I'm at the home Bandkiff.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Okay, so how about just toes up watch the game.
But problem is there's betting, and that drives everything to
another level. That guy probably lost a grand and he
wants to kill somebody wish would have won. I could
have won five grand and I lost it. You know,
(08:59):
I take that. I'm not even you know, I'm not worried.
I'm watching the game thinking I just watched one of
the great games of all time. I sat next to
Adam Sandler and his wife Jackie, who were great Chris Rock.
I went up. I'm standing there and John McEnroe was
(09:21):
walking by me and he looks at me and I
shake his hand. I said, I'm John. Caliperry said, I
know you are, coach. I don't know who knows me,
who doesn't know me, but all the stuff. But the
fans never boomed, never left either. It's come on, now,
you've been to New York stuff. I don't care if
it's the Yankees, the Giants, the Jets, the Mets, you'll
(09:43):
get booed like in a second. These people are so
you know what it is. It's they're all in this together.
You could feel it and build he was crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
He's the Hall of Fame coach John Calier Perry joining
us on the program. Did you recruit Jalen Brunson? A
great story.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
He played in West Virginia in a tournament and I'm
watching him, saying, this kid's really good, already going to Villanova.
What he committed to Villanova? What I get Jay?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Right?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
I'm watching the kid with Jay right on the phone.
I said, Jay, I see this kid down here. It's
down to you and us now because I'm recuting out
of this skit and Jay and I bust out laughing.
I even called him the other day and I said, Jay,
you got three guys that won you two national titles,
are ready to win a world championship like you. And
(10:35):
again we talked about kat when we talked about dn Folx,
what about Keldon Johnson. Keldon Johnson is sixth Man of
the Year. Allowed step back from being a starter so
he could be one of these guys. I mean, and
for him, Jay and me to sit there and watch
all this stuff, nothing makes you prouder when you're watching
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and he's going to defend his look. Jalen threw a
ball a way that almost cost him a game. He
got a little trapped, he looked away and threw it.
Josh gave up an offensive rebound that was going to
be the game. He missed a breakaway dunk. But you
know what, Jay would defend his guys, and I'm gonna
defend mine. I mean, I think they all three played well.
(11:20):
One's playing with a bad ankle. But I'll come back
to it is the life we chose.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yes, how aware are you of the point spread for
your games at Arkansas?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Never don't want to know, but it's always there.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
It's omnipresent. Coach.
Speaker 7 (11:41):
So I had a guy when I was at Kentucky.
I had a guy that would be with us and
he knew that I knew, he knew the point spread.
And if we were going to a game and he
would say it's eighteen, I was so happy. I'd sit
back because there's some of the guys aren't wrong. They're like, oh,
I know, But if we're going to a game and
(12:02):
I'm thinking, yeah, we're double digit here, And if I
asked him and he said, yeah, it's a four point
four points, what how's it? Only? Oh shit, they know
something we don't know. So that's why I don't want
to know either way. Yeah, I don't. I'm not. I'm
not looking at it thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, I just I look at the authority of the
NC double I don't do they have authority when it.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Comes not now?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
No? No, And I hey, look that the that the
stuff this has gotten away from us. Do I think
putting the government involved in our business is going to work?
Probably not? Who wants the government involved. But we're at
the point, at least short term a two year anti
(12:54):
just two years for us to get stuff away from
the courts. How do we make whatever these lawsuits are
go to federal court not state because state has We're
gonna let him play. Yeah, I don't care what he did. Well,
he grows out, couldn't do this. This guy's out in it. Yeah,
(13:16):
we're gonna have this guy one game penalty. What but
it's in state court, it's not federal and so that
kind of stuff. But yeah, we need help right now.
Would I hope that we wouldn't need government? Yeah, but
I'm in this. We cannot leave college sports the way
it is another year cannot So whatever we do, we
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got to do something, whether it's the build that's out
there right now, whether it's a scaled back for a
two year reprieve. I don't know, but we need to
do something.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, I need an answer on this last question. Okay,
what year did.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
You miss those layups in our gym? Did you play
for Donald Hurt? Did you play for him at Dayton? Right?
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Coach was there when I was there?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
He was an assistant there then.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
No, no, he was head coach. I was gonna say, no,
I didn't miss any layups at U Mass.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
Yes you did. No. No, See they said he does
the radio. This is an nc double A And I said, hey,
you are crazy. How can he talk basketball? He can't
make layups? How does that work?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
This is an NCAA violation because you're lying right now.
If I put you under oath, would you have said
what you just said?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Coach fifth?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Okay, Okay, I want an answer. Okay, promise me you
will give me an answer on this. A name, okay,
promise yeah, Okay, give me the most important player for
whether it was at Kentucky. Well, let's say Kentucky. Who
was the most important player you had at Kentucky? Not
(14:53):
best most important player? Well, let me say this, and
you can even do Memphis if you want to.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Mention some names.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Okay, Darius a Cup should be a top four, maybe
even way better, maybe one or two in this draft.
Malik Thomas should be in this first round. And because
of what the Knicks did where they're playing veteran guys
that went to college for four years, you got og
he went, he went for a couple of years. Carl's
(15:23):
the only one that went one year, but he's been
in the league seven years. Though. That's giving Trevn Brazil
a second look, like, hey, we need to take a
guy that's been in college four years and do what
the Knicks did, and then my guy, Darius and Malik
as young kids. Someone's getting a good player. Does that
answer your question?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Because I think Marcus Camby is probably the most important
player a time career.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
How does the guy lead like him lead? You mess?
We were top twenty, but when he came he became
number one in the country. He is a top fifty
player in high school or college in the history of
our game. He's the top fifty. They can name all
these guys what he did at UMass. He's the top
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fifty player and the greatest guy. To this day. He
and I still stay in touch, and I thank him
for what he did for my career because by us
getting him helped my career screw up even more.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
And back then you couldn't pay people above board, so
you had to pay him under the table.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
You know how I recruited him. When I went in
he said, I said, what do you want to be?
He said, I want to be a shooting guard. He's
six eleven. He want to be a shooting guard. But
we really needed this guy, and so I said, well, listen,
I'm not going to lie to you. If you want
to be a shooting guard, I'm going to let you
(16:56):
be a shooting Now follow up with but we do
post our shooting guards a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just great to talk to you. Enjoy the rest of
the basketball and thanks again.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Hey, let's just share these guys on and.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Of course, of course, yeah, mister positive, No, yeah, John Caliperi,
mister positive, Thank you coach. All right, thanks, that's John Calipari.
All shame mister positivity when it comes to his players,
all the other stuff we can be negative about. Uh,
(17:34):
he's always entertaining. All right, take a break, settle on
our poll question.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
C C.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Sabathia will join us. I didn't want to talk to
him about this. I want to know, you know what,
I'll just wait. I got a lot of questions. One
has to do with does he Thinkotani is the greatest
player of all time? And I want to talk about
all of these pictures. You know, miss Rowski is throwing
one hundred three. Then it's nothing. Where are we headed?
(18:02):
So CC Sabbathia will join us next.
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Speaker 2 (18:45):
Pauly goes, John Caliperry blew right By that comment that
you were talking about with Marcus Camby, you know, back
then you couldn't pay him above board, you were paying
him under the table.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
He didn't even bite on it. He was like moved
on right from that. Yeah, Paul, you meant like the
royal you like everybody in college, something like that, something
like that.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
CC Sabathia Hall of Famer, World Series Champ and Oh
nine had a chance to spend some time with him
a couple of days ago. He's got a podcast. It's
on Peacock MLB, according to CC, Wednesday at five Eastern
on Peacock NBC Sports now also available as a podcast.
He was there on Wednesday night and I started my
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conversation by asking him, are you a diehard Knicks fan?
Speaker 8 (19:36):
No, I'm just I'm reaching it with basketball. I'm a
die hard Raider, So I take so much abuse in
the fall that by the winter time, whoever's winning in basketball,
I just roll with that squad.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
So I got lucky this year over the Knicks. So
I got to go to the Darden.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Okay, But when you were playing in New York with
the Yankees, how often would you go to a Knicks game?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I went lot of time.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
I went out of time because I gave up my
Warrior season. Tickets right then because when I was in UH,
when I was still in Cleveland, I had Warrior season tickets,
so I would go to the games in the offseason.
Then I had to give those up when we moved
here full time, so I started going to the garden.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Who would you sit next to like celebrities?
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Yeah, I mean I sat next to Tracy Morgan, I
sat next to Spike before Chris Rod, Jon Stewart, the whole,
the whole, the whole game.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
What about Yankee teammates that came to the games.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
H Judge came to the games with me a couple
of times. I had a teammate, Bean Francisco came with
me a couple of times. And then like we would
we would get sweets. If all of us were going,
we would get like a big suite to go to
the game. But we've always supported the next.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
But when you played with the Yankees, how often or
how where were you of celebrities there?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Oh, you know, you know who's there, like, uh, when
Laura and Michael was sitting back there, or whoever is
sitting back there, Like you know, who's who's in the house,
And like people pay attention to that for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But they especially in New York, but they come down
on the field pregame.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Depending on who it was.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
But but even if they were just sitting like right
there in legends back there, yeah, I mean you could
you can see who was who was there, So we
were always paying.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Attention to that.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Did you acknowledge them?
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Yeah, if you if you were if you were good enough,
you can acknowledge them.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
When you're winning, it helps everything.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yes, I was curious about this when Princey said, hey,
you want to get CC on and that is would
you rather throw ninety five but you had movement or
let's say you're throwing one o three like Jacob Mizerowski
and maybe it's just one o three, but straight.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I would take the ninety five with movement, just because
I feel like I can I can pitch with that
and be able to kind of move it around the plate.
I mean, even if I mean, if it depends on
one of four, right with the one on three like
miss Rowski. I think it's his trouble before this year
was they didn't throw enough strikes. I think in the
last six weeks just throwing the ball over the plate.
(22:15):
He throws so hard that even if you're on time,
you've fouled it off, fouled off a couple of times,
they didn't get to his breaking ball. So I think
it's just about being able. Whatever you can throw for
a strike is what you should throw. So Mitts could
throw one hundred and three, but he can't throw that
for a strike. And maybe he should throw ninety eight
so that he can throw strikes and kind of move
the ball around the plate and be able to pitch
a little bit. So I think the biggest thing that
(22:37):
you're seeing in his and the difference in what he's
doing now is that he's actually just throwing the ball
over the plate. He had four walks in all of
may you know what I'm saying, So that right, I
mean him just like literally attacking offenses. I mean, with
him being able to throw that hardest. I mean, there's
really nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Mark Grace once told me, he said, we'll catch up
to a fastball. You can throw it, like, well, we'll
hit a fastball. It's the other stuff that we have
trouble with.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8 (23:06):
I mean even if you look at like Mo, Mo
threw one pitch his whole career, and everybody kind of
knew which way it was going or felt like they
had a beat on it. And he's the greatest pitcher
of all time, you know what I mean. So so
if you can make the ball move and get it
off the barrel a little bit, it's so hard to
hit even if you know what's coming.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Because people people.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Felt like they knew what Marionnod' was gonna throw and
still couldn't get to him.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Was that teachable? That pitch?
Speaker 8 (23:33):
It's teachable, Yes, it's teachable. You could throw a cutter,
but you can't throw it like him, you know what
I'm saying. Like he taught me how to throw that.
That's that's the cutter out through at the end of
my career, same one Billy Connor's taught him, taught Andy
Pettitt All. Every every Yankee learned that cutter from Billy,
but most is just different. Like you play catch with them,
(23:55):
it moves late. Who's different. I've seen them hit people
in the chest with it. I've seen to hit people
in the face with it like and he's telling them
it's coming. So yes, you I mean, you can learn
the grip and you can learn the philosophy of like
where to throw it, but nothing's going to be.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Like his Okay, but is that the most unhittable pitch
in the history of baseball?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 8 (24:17):
I mean, and I think it's because everybody knew it
was coming, like for twenty years. You know what he's throwing.
I mean, he started throwing the two seamer at the end,
maybe like the last three years, but for seventeen years straight.
I mean, in the playoffs, everything, He's pitching in the
biggest moments and people feel like they know what's coming
and still can't get him on the bear.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Okay, what other pitch would be like Phil Nekro's knuckleball was.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Like Johan Santana's change up.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Oh my goodness, his change.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Up was was I mean, it was off the charge.
He would throw that thing right down the middle. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
If you mean it, yeah, if you guessed right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
It's so good that he's just throwing it right down
the middle. That's how.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Harold Old Reynolds showed me a video. He said, I'm
gonna show you a side by side of Johann Santana's
release point fastball change up.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
It was exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, he said, Now imagine being at the plate and
you got to decide is he throwing a fastball or
a change up? I mean he said that it was
impossible to tell.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Yeah, you literally have to guess. You gotta pick one.
And like you said, it looked exactly the same. And
the arm speed that he that he threw it with,
I think it helped all. I mean, I know it
helped me just watching him be able to throw it
as hard as he could. It helped me be able
to like trust that I can throw this thing as
hard as I can and it's gonna the grip is
gonna take the speed off, and the scenes are gonna make.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
The ball move.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
So having a chance to like watch him up close
for so long in that division definitely helped me watch
change up.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
CC Sabbathia Hall of Famer World Series Champono nine with
the Yankees Tommy john surgery feels almost a rite of passage.
It's inevitable for these pictures.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Now, Yeah, it seems that way. I mean even younger, right,
guys would coming to baseball with Tommy Johns at this.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Point, and I tell the story that I have a
physical therapist. He said he had two different parents who
came to him and said, can you help us get
Tommy John surgery? And their sons were one was fourteen,
one was fifteen. They were getting it before they needed
Tommy John's surgery.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
That's what they try to do to get the rehab
to be able to to throw harder. Like people just assume. Well,
I mean even now too, like kids are pos, which
are pitchers only, which I don't understand. Like the funniest
part about playing baseball is being able to play the field.
Like who just wants to pitch your whole life?
Speaker 6 (26:47):
You know what I'm saying. So it's even weird to
see that.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
But yeah, I mean the guys that are pos that
feel like they want to pitch, you know in college
or you know, maybe in the pros, they feel like,
you know, there's only so many throws in your arm,
and at some point you're gonna have to have Tommy John.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
I've never had Tommy John. I was always on pitch counts.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
Even as a young as a young kid, my dad
had me on pitchcounts, make sure only three once a week,
all these different things.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
So my arm is pretty healthy up until you know,
my last year.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
But I just think people try to get ahead of
it now, where you know, they feel like if a
guy's gonna throw this much or a kid's gonna throw
as much, let's go ahead and get the surgery out
of the way, and you know, try to try to
see if he can get to the big leagues. But yeah,
that's what I'm saying, Like, guys now are coming to
pro ball with one Tomy John already and then maybe
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had him two while they're while they're playing.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Otani's had the surgery and he's had a procedure. But
I wonder how many imitators is he going to create
in five years, ten years that we do let somebody
hit and pitch if they're like Schemes was a great
hitter in an Air Force academy. I mean, he was
a power hitter. I'm surprised that the Pirates wouldn't say, way,
(28:01):
why don't we do get this novelty with Schemes and
get him out there more often?
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Absolutely, Oregon Jack Kaglio right, like he went to Florida.
He's a first rounder for Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
He can do both.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
I mean, but even like there's always guys that can
do both, right, I felt I heard Dave Winfield was
a great pitcher in college and you know, was able
to kind of do both. I would have thought by
now it would be way more guys, you know what,
at least the opportunity to hit and pitch.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
But even just.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
Seeing how good Kaglion was in college doing both and
then them just kind of turning them into a hitter,
seems like, you know, it is just you know, just
one off with show Hayes, you know, the greatest baseball
player of all time, and he's the only one that
gets to you know, can do it on this level.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
So I mean, hopefully there are more guys that can
do this.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
I don't think anybody's gonna be able to do it
on the level that he's doing it, but there's definitely
guys that can you know, do both.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Wait, you think he's going to be the greatest player
of all time. I think he already is the greatest
of all time.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Who's better?
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well, I mean, babe, did I mean he won ninety
two games as his starter and then you hit seven
hundred and fourteen home runs and.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Yeah, that was a different time though.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Now he's playing in the era where this is the
biggest fastest strongest era that we've ever seen. And he's
the fastest, he's the biggest, he's the best.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
I mean, you know, you combine him.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
He's one of the best hitters in the league, and
he's one of the best pitchers in the league. And
to be able to do it in this era, I think,
you know, my dope to me is Barry Bonds, like
I'll never you know, he's always number one, But Barry
can't go on through seven shut out.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Any PAULI, did you have CC's hitting stints?
Speaker 11 (29:44):
Yeah, for his career, CEC hit two oh seven, three
home runs, fifteen rbidm no steals.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
You know, I how to higher band average until like
those last three years, and I was like, I was
just trying to like hold on to like that two fifty.
You won't say it sounds so bad. I he did
like two fifty to those last three years.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Okay, who did you homer off of? Since it's only
three you got to remember.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Yeah, I hit a homer off Homer Bailey, Chanhoe Park
and Elizardo Ramirez those are the three guys.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Did you get those home run balls back?
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Well, Griffy the first one I hit, he threw it
back in the stand. Only have the back from that ball,
I don't have I don't from that game. I don't
have the ball, and yeah I got another two back.
But yeah, Griffy, Griffy threw the ball back in the stand.
Why he was like with a swing like that, No
way that was.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I knew.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
You're doing some great things with playing with Heart. Can
you explain that to the audience.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
What you're doing.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Yeah, Playing with Heart is a campaign that you know,
I'm here to represent, you know, just to help adults understand.
You know, bad cholesterol and cholesterol number twenty eighteen. I
had a stint put in my heart and you know,
it changed my life. So you know, if I can
be here to try to help somebody and you know,
understand and talk to this physician to understand, you know,
(31:09):
there might be you know, underlying things that that goal
with you that you can't see it, you can't feel.
But if you go and check a cholesterol you may
be able to get ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, it's called playing with Heart and collaboration with nine
teams the Yankees, Giants, Red Sox, Phillies, Braves, Cardinals, Astros,
Padres and the Angels, the focus is simple, and that's urgent.
Know what your cholesterol number is. Great to see you again,
Thanks for joining us always and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Sounds good.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
CC Sabbathia.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
He has a podcast on Peacock MLB according to CC
and Wednesdays at five pm Eastern and NBC now available
as a podcast. He's really good. I don't know if
he knows how good he is. But when these guys
tell stories and or sometimes you jar their memory, like
the fact that Griffy wouldn't give him the home run
(32:04):
ball because he had such a lame home run swing.
Andy were like, no, no, no, you don't get to
keep that. As he keeps sick, we'll take a break.
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it's a meat Friday. It's always great. Go out to
the grills. You know, when you see somebody who does
this professionally, Chef Greg from Rectec, you know their imagination, creativity,
and he is so cool under fire. Literally, he just
like no big deal. I'll have this done in time. Yes, Dylan,
(32:47):
it feels almost like a direct shot at me. No, No, No,
you do a great job. Oh is this the back row?
I need a little pat on the back.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, that'd be nice.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
It's kind of contagious there with you and Fritzy.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Something's contagious back here.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Todd goes, uh, you know I did book five guests today.
I go, yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Think we had five guests yesterday to I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
I got to check them out of it.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Wow, five plus five? Are we going to do this
every day?
Speaker 7 (33:13):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:13):
There are days where we've had no guests.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Okay, one guest, but you know, I still have to
make magic. Do you get the guests? That's just the start.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
It's meaningless.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You have to interview them and get something interesting out
of them. Anyone could just pull guests out of.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It, but you don't have to pull me to the
side and go, hey, five guests and I go, okay,
let's thot.
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I'm very sensitive.
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need for someone to say good draw.
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Speaker 2 (34:08):
Herbie was in the garden on Wednesday night, Thomas and Iowa, Hi, Thomas,
what do you have for me today?
Speaker 10 (34:15):
They guys got a sixty three to eighty. I just
want to bring up that Soarsby case. There's a there's
a lot of bad stuff going on in SCA A
college coaches poaching other players, transfer port Oh, there's like
they're all they're all in. But I feel that right
(34:36):
now with this case, that they all can come together,
that there's a line that you don't cross, and that's gambling.
I feel bad for the kid. There's other ways he
can get at I go play football game, but it
shouldn't be in college sports. It's just set a tone.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Well, I think in what I'm being told by a source,
they're hoping that this kind of bubbles up where Brendan
Sos goes in the supplemental draft, and I think the
deadline for that is June twenty third, that he would
have to declare for the supplemental Draft. I don't see
it that way. And look, this is just business. We
can get rid of the all. You know, this is altruistic.
(35:16):
We want to take care of this child. Don't put
his gambling addiction and rehab in front as a shield,
because if he wasn't a great college player, you wouldn't
be doing this.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
He's a great player. He's in the transfer portal. You
got him.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
A judge ruled two game suspension for gambling. This is
on the judge. Texas Tech is saying, hey, you know
what I mean. We went through the legal process. He
went through the legal process. We're going to take a
shot with this, all right. I understand that. And if
he was at Kansas State or some other school, they
(35:57):
would be doing the same thing. I know that we
can all be like, oh, you know, for the betterment
of the game, what decision has been made in the
last five years for the betterment of the game itself.
Everything is selfish everybody. I mean, they did tighten the
transfer portal, but they had to, so, you know, we
(36:21):
want these philanthropic decisions. They're not happening. This is big business.
Brendan Soresby is going to be able to play according
to a judge. Now, do I think it's wrong, Yes,
it's gambling.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
If you were betting on your team, you got information
you were betting on your team, did you share that information?
Did you bet against your team? What did Cincinnati know
about this kid's gambling issue? And they didn't do anything.
Now he goes to Texas Tech. Did Texas Tech know
(36:59):
about this? So there's a lot of guilty parties here
finger pointing all of that. I don't like it. I
have given you the warning signs. I've given you the
ugly side of gambling and what it can lead to.
And it's eighteen to twenty four year olds and he's
got nil money. He has an addiction problem.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
You can't sit here and go you know what. We
are fully behind him. We don't want this to have
irreparable harm on him. If he doesn't get to play football.
Never we were told that irreparable harm. Well, you suspending
for two games? Is there any irreparable harm for being
suspended for two games? How about you don't suspend him
(37:45):
for anything. If that's the way you're going to go, like,
let's not make a mockery of it. You know what,
he served his punishment. He's not going to be able
to play against Evelene Christian and Oregon State. That'll teach him,
he'll learn his life lesson. Two games doesn't change anything.
And if you're going to go all in on it,
(38:06):
don't suspend him any games. But it's business, always understand
bottom line business. Are they gonna Are they going to
be around this kid the rest of his life? I mean,
is Texas Tech going to fully embrace him because they're
worried about irreparable harm? You know, he's gonna be one
(38:28):
of ours for a year. Okay, I hope you're around
him the rest of his life. Take care of him,
because that's certainly the inference you're giving me. We're gonna,
we're gonna be there. We're like a seat belt for you.
We're always going to have your back.
Speaker 11 (38:46):
Yes, And if this happens going forward, with the third
string linebacker at Texas Tech. You'll go to court, You'll
back him up, You'll completely back him because that's it's
about caring for the kids in their future.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yes, and any other school, these kids can now say
that that's going to cause you irreparable harm. There's precedent here.
That's what makes me nervous. There's precedent here. But hey,
this is college football. You got schools that are spending
forty million dollars on their football rosters. Okay, and here's
(39:21):
the thing. You never have to apologize for winning. Okay,
Urban Meyer at Florida, Eh, you know, we got a
couple of guys that are kind of shaky.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
I don't know. Somebody shot somebody.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Big deal.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
We won? Yeah, yeah, you did. Michigan.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, I don't know. What he was doing on the sideline,
might have been something to Farya is there. But we
won a national title. That is the great bath that
you can take and get you rid of everything.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
It's a Cleanton Texas Tech if they win.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I would make him bet his five million dollar nil
on Texas Tech to win the national title. I think
that's a great idea. I'm just joking, yes, doing.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
I was actually looking, funnily enough, at the betting lines
for Big twelve games. Texas Tech is nowhere to be
found at the moment.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And these other schools saying, oh, we're not going to
play Texas Tech. Yes you are, Yes you are.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
I know.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, Hey, we're not because you don't want to put
yourself in a position to be under the microscope with
some of the things that might be going on at
your university.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Also, it's like if you went to Sarkesian or whatever
and Texas is going to play Texas Tech and you're like, Hey,
the quarterback might be shaving points on the other team.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Do you want to play them? He's like, so it's
going to be even easier to win.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I'd love to ask this judge, Hey, if Texas Tech
opened with Texas, let's say in Cowboys Stadium, are you
going to suspend him for the first two games of
the regular season, including that game, m.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
We're gonna suspend him for the second two games?
Speaker 5 (41:07):
You got to teach him a lesson, Yes, Paul, it'd
be a great question.
Speaker 11 (41:10):
Did the judge look at the Tech football schedule before
he made his ruling?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Because there'll be no reason to.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
And third game is Houston, which is a legitimate game
for them, but he'll be back in time. West Kirkirk
Street about this. Herbie'll join us and we'll talk some
soccer as well. Former USA goalkeeper Brad Kazan. I am
going into the confessional. If you're watching on Peacock
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