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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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our Kentucky Derby winner coming up. We know absolutely nothing
of horse racing. Nothing now. I used to cover the
Preakness in the Belmont. I think three or four years
in a row that I would go to those races.
When I was working in New York at CNN, when
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I was a reporter, I'd go to those and of
course you're going in there, and there's certain sports where
you know who knows that sport and who's just coming in.
And I was one of those guys just coming in
because I you know, terminology. You got to make sure
you get everything right. You're just I remember talking to
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the legendary trainer Woodie Stevens. Oh, I think that I'm
I'm doing well. You know, I'm kind of holding my
own with him, horse racing lexicon language. We get done,
and a PR person for the New York Racing Association
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came up and he goes up, hey, next time, made
a couple of mistakes here, you know, referring to like
the Big A Aqueduct, and I was saying that, like,
oh man, you know out there the Big A. Well,
Woody Stevens wasn't out at the Big A, and like
just I was in over my head. And then I realized,
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you know what, just talk about what you know and
then let people tell you what you need to know,
instead of me trying to act like, oh yeah, you know,
he comes out of the four hole. Then I find
out that there was a horse who was blind in
one eye, okay, and his name was Patch. So they
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had a horse who ran in the derby and this
was brought up on The Gambling Podcast yesterday, Sammy P
who joined us. Oh, by the way, controversy on the
Gambling Podcast yesterday because Bad Larry quit, so Shyan Irving
it's Dylan Big day. Ray produces that Sammy P came in.
(03:03):
He's a professional gambler and we have Bad Larry. Well,
bad Larry. Well, this is how it sounded yesterday on
DP takes a gamble, Bad Larry quit.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Why don't you take my place?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Right the brakes there? Wait? Did you just did you
just quit?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I offered it to Ray last week.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
What this is news to me.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'll take it, Sammy take my spot please.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So bad Larry please take it the rest of the way.
Now he's better than Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You think it was fun?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Wow? Okay, Well, why don't we just keep Larry? I'm
sorry we were a burden to you.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
But yeah, if you want us at our football Larry,
then you have to have us at our palantier off season.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Why don't we just hang up on Larry? Why don't
we just say goodbye? That would be great. Okay, Larry's done.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
After three hundred episodes, Bad Larry bottles out yesterday he
did the uh, I'm you don't fire me? I quit?
Speaker 7 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I did call him later and I said, what's going on?
He goes, I'm just I can't do it. You know,
I can do football, but you know, I don't want
to talk about Taylor Swift's next boyfriend and bet on that,
you know. And I said, okay, because I'm just busy,
you know, traveling and I'm not there in studio. I said, okay.
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I said, all right, you you're done. We're going to
treat you as if you're done, and then if you
want to join us during football season at any point,
you can come in for a little cameo. He goes,
that'd be great. So he did quit yesterday, Yes, deal, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
And that was not rehearsed. That was everyone's first time
hearing Larry quit. Yes, because I didn't. I didn't realize.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I'm like, oh, come on, I didn't know that he
was planning, you know, this palace coup the previous week
where he told Big Ray, the Big Ray, Big Day Ray,
the producer. And so we'll see, we'll see if we
can get somebody to come in and sit in the
seat where Larry should have been yes, deal, there's an
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empty chair waiting for someone.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, yes, bol And that horse you mentioned Patch, Yeah,
that was the twenty eighteen Kentucky Derby, a one eyed horse.
He had an eye, both eyes for a long time,
but then he had an illness and had an eye removed.
In twenty sixteen, he was thirty to one to win
the eighteen race and he finished fourteenth with one eye.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, the problem is those who bet him didn't realize
that his good eye was his outside on his right eye.
He was just seeing the grand stand and no other horses.
He thinks he's doing really well. And if he had
been in on the rail, he would have seen all
the horses and that would have helped him kind of navigate.
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So Patch can't see any of the other horses. He
thinks he's doing great. Where is everyone? It feels like
he's Usain Bolt. I'm doing this with one eye. Yes, yes, Tom,
do we know?
Speaker 7 (06:15):
I don't know what kind of studies are shown.
Speaker 8 (06:16):
Do horses just run as fast as they can or
do they Are they really aware of the other horses?
Obviously you don't want to step on another horse, but
do they.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Really understand that I know. How about we just stay
in our lane here?
Speaker 7 (06:26):
This is a serious question.
Speaker 8 (06:27):
Do I understand that this is a competition and a
lot of money's it's taken. I got to beat these
other horses, I got to get there.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
First, stay and just let's just stay in our lane
when it comes to this horse racing, they're just waiting
to get to the stud fee portion of their career.
I guess yes, but yes they do know. And there
are horses who have had great rivalries affirmed in aliy dr.
It felt like, you know, they they were competing with
each other.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
A trash talk in the barn and all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
What'd you call me?
Speaker 9 (06:54):
Thank you? Todd?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Uh So that happened yesterday. That was big news on
the gambling podcast Bad Larry has stepped down. Probably not
the craziest thing that was said yesterday. Draymond Green has
a podcast, The Draymond Green Show, and he talked about
Steve Kerr's role in his career.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
As much as he's done for me in basketball, a
part of me think he's hindered me in my career
and what I could have become. No when KD came
from twenty sixteen oh, I have not had to play
in our playbook, not a single play that we run
for me in our playbook since twenty sixteen. But if
you're going to take one gripe and not be able
to move past it for all the other things, I
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think you're shallow as a person. That says more about
you as a person than it does about Steve or
whoever else than that is that you gotta take the
good with the bad man.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So Draymond thinks he's a thirty point scorer, that Steve
held him back, that he didn't run plays for him.
All I know is if I got Kevin Durant, Steph Curry,
and Clay Thompson, I'm not running any plays for you.
I could make a case that Draymond hindered Steve Kerr's career,
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certainly in one playoff series. I give if we want
to talk about all these things. You know, Draymond is
a wonderful player. He was the right player at the
right time for the right team. If he played in Atlanta,
no one would care. I mean, Robert or told us
that Rockets never ran a play for him. Big Shot
(08:30):
Bob a guy that you would run plays for because
he is a knockdown, cold blooded killer at the end
of the game. And he said they never ran a
play for him. What play are you running for Draymon?
And once again, if I look at my first three options,
I'm not getting to my fourth option. Yes, Marvin, there's.
Speaker 10 (08:53):
No way I have maybe the most unstoppable offensive force
ever in Kevin Durant. Wait wait, Katie, you hold on.
We're gonna run pick and role play for Draymond Green?
Absolutely not. No, you set the offense up. That's what
you're great at. Like he was basically the point guard
on that team. Yes, I don't ever like when people say, oh,
Stephorr is a great point guard. No, No, he's a
shooting guard. And Draymond Green was the guy that ran
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that offense. And you did what you were great at.
And Steve Kirk put you in a great position to
get paid three hundred million dollars in be a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yes, and he will be a Hall of Famer. He
was a great defender, and he was a point forward.
He was their best passer. Well, that's Steve putting you
in your best position to be a point forward, to
run the offense, to get the ball to the scores
and be a great defender. So I would argue to
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the contrary, Steve Kerr understood. Look, Draymond was I think
two time Big Ten Player of the Year at Michigan State.
I think what he did in the NBA to become
a Hall of Famer is a surprise to most people.
But understanding your role too is key, and Draymond did
understand his role. Now, he may not like it that
(10:06):
he didn't get plays run for him, But I don't
know if I would say to Steve Kerr, you know
you kind of hindered me. You held me back, Yeah, PAULI, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
If you go back to when Draymond was talking in
that clip, twenty sixteen was his best season. He averaged
fourteen points a game, then went to ten, seven, eight, seven,
and so on. But that's when he really hit his
stride as a player that frustrated people. No one was
scared of his scoring.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Now because he could be a dangerous three point shooter,
but he wasn't an offensive threat the way I mean,
once again, I've got Durant. Even if I don't have Durant,
I have Stephen Clay, and chances are I'm not getting
to my third option. So but look, I don't know
if Draymond, I want to be fair to the context
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of this, I don't know if he sounds mad than
what could have been. Maybe I could have been an
eighteen point score per game, maybe something like that. But
it feels like he thinks he could have been like
a go to guy.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, you could easily make the case if
he's playing for Washington or Atlanta, he's twenty one to
ten if he's the focal point at some point in
his career, but he'd be missing the playoffs every year.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, he's going to the Hall of Fame because he
won championship. Yah, not because you could have averaged twenty
one a game, yes, Martin.
Speaker 10 (11:32):
Yeah, at best, he would have been somebody like Paul Millsap.
Ooh and weird, he's not on the tip of our tongues.
I'm only saying that because I'm an NBA geek, But
most people don't know who Paul Millsap is, even though
he had a really good career. That's what Draymond may
have ended up being.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
All right, recapping basketball last night. By the way, Golden
State is not in the playoffs. The Nicks embarrassed the
Hawks and they win the series. The Timberwolves close out
the Nuggets. Seventy six ers alive, Alive and kick now.
I don't think the seventy six ers have eliminated the
Celtics in the NBA playoffs Since nineteen eighty two. The
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Celtics have knocked the seventy six ers out of the
playoffs six consecutive meetings. The last time Philly eliminated Boston
was nineteen eighty two.
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The uh Timberwolves knocking out the Nuggets, and boy, that's
the walk of shame if you're Denver. That there was
(12:50):
no excuse for that. Give credit to Minnesota. Minnesota matched
the Bravado in then some of Denver and stood up
to Joe Kerk and Jamal Murray, and they did so
without their top three guards. But you imagine if you're
the Knicks and there's a chance the seventy six Ers
knocking off the Celtics on Saturday, Wow, you'll be big
(13:16):
Philadelphia seventy sixer fans. This is where a team kind
of figured it out a little bit. You didn't know
if you're having an Embiid right. People even questioned if
he was actually hurt. Yes, Mark, But here's the thing.
Speaker 10 (13:35):
If you're the Knicks, do you really want to see
tyrees Maxi for maybe seven games?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I would rather see him than I would Tatum and
Brown in a really balanced Celtic lineup.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
Jaylen Brunson, those guys had a hard time with CJ.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
McCollum.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yes, Dylan, from like a viewership standpoint, would you rather
see the next play the Sixers or the Celtics like
that kind of the storyline, I.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Would say the Celtics, right, you know, I mean that's
a rivalry Philly though Philly New York. Eh, Yeah, I
don't know. I like watching Philly because I like Tyrese Maxey,
and I do have great appreciation for Joel Embiid because
he's been through an awful lot and he's still playing.
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Like we talk about Anthony Davis being through a lot.
He's not playing Joel Embiid it he is always trying
to play, and he said when I'm out there, I
am playing hard. Yeah, Paulie, you.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Know, if we criticize load management, but if you look
at the seventy six ers this year, that's all they did.
Paul George had less than four forty starts. Embiid had
fewer than forty starts, and Embiid had a policy no
back to backs. And look where he is right now.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, dyl.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I think it was the first time you guys had
him beat on the show and he told the story
about like killing a lion.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Did we ever find out that that was true? I
thought that was Minute Bowl too. Maybe then bumfed in.
I think manuon Bull might have killed a lion, but
I think Embiid was having fun with us. Yeah, yeah,
can you check. I think Manuu Bull killed a lion.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
Yes one, it was Embiid, but he did say it
was not true.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Okay, but I thought manuut Bole actually killed a lion
Andbiid was joking about that. I got to believe that
Lyon probably didn't look at Manoup Bull and say there's
not enough meat on the bone there. I'm not worried
about that guy, like it's just the skewer. Yeah, all right,
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Friday here and uh we'll talk some basketball coming up.
Eight seven seven three DP show. I got to play
this Draymond Green sound for Austin Rivers. See what he
thinks of that. Uh, we'll take a break. We're back
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Speaker 2 (17:10):
We had Joe el embiid on a while ago, maybe
when he was first going into the NBA, and he
told us a story about killing a lion, and I
brought up and it wasn't true, but I brought up
the Minute Bowls story because I remember having Minute Bowl
on the show and he talked about killing a lion
as well. He made it up as well. So I
just want to set the record straight for those thinking
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that these two centers may have killed a lion. Yes, Dylan,
that is disappointed. Sorry sorry. Austin Rivers, NBC Sports Analyst,
and tune into the NBA Playoffs and NBC Peacock NBC
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Western Conference Finals. Where do you want to start?
Speaker 9 (17:57):
Where do I want to start?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, like you want to start with Atlanta against the
Knicks seventy six are still alive? The Nuggets no showing?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Well, yeah, we could start with we can start with
I think the most interesting series I think right now
would be Boston Boston failure, or Detroit, perhaps Orlando, especially
me being in Orlando, an Orlando kid. I have to
call the games and be biased, but there's a part
of me that's cure.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
No team very hard, i'd be lying.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Have you ever been involved in a game like the
Atlanta Hawks played last night?
Speaker 9 (18:39):
Yes? Yes, Uh, not that bad.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Nobody's been that bad.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
Yeah, not in the playoff game. In a regular season game.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yes, I remember playing the Kevin Durant Westbrook Thunder. That's
when they had Harden and all those guys, And unfortunately
I was playing for the New Orleans Hornets at the time,
which is no fun ever, and.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
We lost by like forty eight, and.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I remember thinking this is the most humiliating thing. But
then I watched last night's game and I felt much
better because that happened in a playoff game, which is
just egregious.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
What's the locker room like when you lose by forty eight?
Speaker 9 (19:24):
There's nothing really to say.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
There's like, I don't know what you know, Quinn Snyder
says at that halftime, you know, because they were down
fifty at halftime, forty at halftime, so you know at
that point the game's out of reach. You're not gonna
have a forty point deficit be wiped away. So you've
lost the seasons over, but you still have two quarters left.
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It's a very awkward situationn't be in like down twenty,
there's like a there's hope, like you can you get
to erase it twenty point quarter, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
In a quarter?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But forty is it's that happening. Yeah, it's just there's
nothing to say. I would love to be a fly
on the wall in that locker room. And it has
nothing to do with Quinn.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I love how people always make the you know, the
loss about the coach, but he's not out there shooting
and playing and he can't force guys to play a
certain way. So it's like, I don't I don't know
what you say.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
How did Boston get into this position?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
They were a lot heavily on tough shot making and
to have a steady diet of that all the time,
it's very difficult. They take a lot of threes. They
shoot more threes than just about anybody. They take a
lot of jump shots. They're two best players, honestly, their
top three scorers on the team, if you're putting printchard
are all ISO ISO players. And when they tap into
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that it can get dangerous. I think the Boston's at
their best when the ball is popping and that thing
is swinging around, and when Tatum has twenty two and
Brown has twenty five instead of Tatum has thirty and
Brown has tries to have thirty, and then the rest
of the team tries to figure out what they can
muster because they don't have a rhythm when they're all hooping,
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that's when they're dangerous. And then late game you can
tap into that ISO because by that time your team
has a rhythm and a feel, and your best players
feel good. Everyone's feeling good. But when you're just playing
this style throughout a game, it's tough. And then also
they don't have anybody to guard Jojo. There's just you know,
Joel Embiide has come out of nowhere and is looking
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like a shimmer of his healthy self, and they don't
have anybody to deal with him.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
And this is a this is a problem.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I mean, this isn't like something where Philly's just played
well and Boss is just going to go get it
done in seven. They have legitimately no one to guard
Philly's best player and that's going to be an issue
for Game seven unless they just make shots. I mean,
they've got to make a lot of you know, otherwise
Philly could win this.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'd love to give credit to Minnesota, but we usually
don't do that in a situation like that. We got
to blame the team that lost. But I have credited
what Minnesota did. They don't have their top three guards.
I thought that they stood up to Denver, Joker, Murray,
but that's an embarrassment for the Nuggets, like bowling out
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like this in a game you know that you're favored
to win, you're supposed to win, they don't have their guards,
and then you know show, Yeah, I wonder what the future.
And I know it's overreaction, but Joker's got to be
looking at this. But when I got one more year
than a player option, is he any closer to a
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title than Jannis has been in Milwaukee? Yes, The only.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Reason I say that is because they have much more
in terms of trade assets, Like you have Aaron Gordon,
you have Jamal Murray, you have Christian Brawn, you have
Peyton Watson, you have you know a handful of.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
Guys that have you know, trade value.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Whereas you look at Milwaukee, they're they're they're going that
that team is not gonna be winning anything anytime soon.
So you know, if you have Aaron Gordon, Peyton Watson healthy,
it's a different team. Now to your argument or to
your point, well, it's like, well they just lost the
team that didn't have, you know, their three best players. Yes,
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I think Denver should have won this series. After Anthony
Edwards goes down, you're supposed to win this. The problem
is they are already in a whole three to one
and then they're looking at this like, guys, you really
have to win one game. We don't have to replay
this team at a seven times. It's like you watching
March Madness. Anybody can meet anybody in one game, especially
for talking about pros.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
So you get a big game from Jaya McDaniels and
Julius Randall and then some other guys, Terrence Shan and
some of these other dudes come in and give you something,
then you can beat them, especially a team that.
Speaker 9 (24:01):
Has zero and tier defense.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And for whatever reason, this is the best we've ever
seen Rudy Gobert guard Nicola. And again, Nicolea's bad dumbers
are my and everybody else's good numbers. So let me
just put that out there. He's one of the greatest
centers of all time. But this is the and I
hate saying the worst I've ever seen him play, because
he's still put up good numbers. But this is the
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most challenged I've ever seen Nicola play. I'm just so
used to him having his way with everyone, including Rudy.
I've seen him have his way. I've been on the
team with Rudy and seen him have his way. I've
been on the other team and seen Nicolea. I've played
in Nicola. I'm just I've never seen Rudy have an
effect on him like this series. So it starts with Rudy.
(24:46):
I gotta give him credit. Yeah, but yeah, it is disappointing.
Got that Dever was going to come back, and I
thought they were the team best fit to be able
to compete in the West with some of these other
teams left.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Talking to Austin Rivers NBC Sports. Who's on the phone.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Oh, I think I think a special someone. I think
Austin's dad just checked in.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Oh okay, Doc Rivers joining us. Hey, Doc, how's it going?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
Son? I'm just so proud of you. I just want
to let you know. Playing it too. Tenth overall pick
by the Hornets in.
Speaker 13 (25:17):
The twenty twelve draft, eleven year NBA career, the Clippers.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
You've played for me, your father, and son.
Speaker 13 (25:23):
How wonderful is that that you could play for your
dad and I could coach my son, and now NBC
and Peacock. I just wanted to call and say, I'm
just so proud of you.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Thank you, Doc. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
That was a pretty pretty damn good impression. Yeah, you
had me in the first half too. Really, you and
jav Fox stand alone?
Speaker 9 (25:45):
My friend?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Have you heard Frenchy's Princey does? Kevin Harlan? How about that? Todd?
Speaker 13 (25:52):
The Nuggets are in a nine to four run here
in the third quarter and Phoenix.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
Wants to talk about it. This sus the NBA ondng.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
That's pretty good and I've never heard anybody immitate Kevin Harlan,
So you definitely got that one in the bag.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
That's pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
So you got the Lakers are underdogs against the Rockets.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I don't know what Kd's status is, but this gets
really dangerous if Houston wins like they're supposed to. You
Reeves is back but didn't play well. So what do
you expect to happen in this series the rest of it?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I think I think the Lakers can finish it out.
You know, again, they got one game to win, yeah,
you know, and it's there. Obviously they're without Luca, their
best player, but you know, on Houston side, they're confident
right now. I don't think the Kevin Durant thing is
an issue as long as he doesn't play.
Speaker 9 (26:46):
And I know that sounds crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
But they're they're winning without him. It seemed like when
he plays, they're so reliant on his offensive greatness that
guys just sit around and they don't play like themselves. Thompson,
who's a non shooting guard, so to play with the
guy who's heavy ISO, it's really hard for him to
help space the floor. He's just kind of stuck out
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there in the mud. Some of these other dudes feel
like they're more unlocked and more free. I think playing
without Kevin, remember, this team was one of the most
promising up and coming young teams in the NBA. They
go get Kevin, and then they've kind of been in
this murky water, similar to what Phoenix was in, similar
to what Brooklyn was in, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (27:25):
So it's tough.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Kevin's so good sometimes you just rely on him to
beat teams with his ISO, but that's not gonna win
in the playoffs consistently, especially at his age.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
Now we're not talking about Prome Kevin Durant.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So I think without Kevin they're a better team for now,
just because of where that seemed to be when he played.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
It didn't seem like it was. I don't know. I'm
not gonna sit here and say they have problems in
the locker room and stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I'm not over there. I don't like to speculate. I
care about what I see in front of me on
the court, black and white. They're playing styles different when
he plays, unless he's gonna come back and the ball
is gonna move again and pop, and then he's gonna
pick his his spots to have ISO and pick his
points to where he wants to do that and play
a little bit more without the ball in his hands.
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Then I would say, great, come on, come back, you
know what I mean, Because he's Kevin Durant. But it
seems like when he plays, his his offensive ability sometimes
hinders them just because of how good he is. I
know it sounds crazy, but that's what we've seen. And
then he plays one game, doesn't play another game, plays
one game. It's really hard for a team to go
into the game not knowing what's happening, you know what
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I mean? Like that, what's our identity tonight? Is Kevin
playing or not? Because he's not just some role player.
So it's it's tough. But I have the Lakers finishing it.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Out, have the Magic figured out the Pistons.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
I think the Magic are a better team. I really do.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I think Detroit has hung their hat on playing hard
and physical all year, and that can get you a
lot of wins regular season.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
Effort. Effort steals wins in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
The problem with that being your hard hat, or being
something you hang your hat on rather is in the playoffs,
everyone plays hard, everyone gives their best effort when everyone's
diving on the floor and going all out one hundred.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
So now it has to be more than effort, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You have to be somebody that can that can really
put the ball in the basket and make plays. They
only have a few of those guys that can do that,
you know what I mean. So Kate is the best
player in the series. He's the best player between the
two teams. Everyone knows that. But who's Kate's second best player?
You'd say Jalen Durant. Okay, Well, Jalen Durant's not a
great offensive player. He's he's more of a defensive player,
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does things on both sides of the floor. Who's your
third guy, Tobias Harris?
Speaker 9 (29:44):
After that?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Who are you reaching for? There are a lot of
guys who do things well. Jenkins is a good, hardworking player,
two way guy converted. Ducan Robinson very a good three
point shooter. But you have to create sets for him
and get him his own shot. He can't create his
own shot. You go to the magic can run that list.
You got Paul ben Carroll, he actually has a Robin
to his batman, just Franz Wagner. All right, Then they
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have Desmond Bane twenty point per game score. Then you
have Anthony Black, another guy can create his own offense.
So you know, you see what I'm saying when you
talk about depth and playmaking ability and shot making ability,
I think Orlando has the edge.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
I think this is a bad matchup. Orlando's not supposed
to be an eight seed.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
This this is a team preseason people had being a two, three,
four seed in the East, and due to injuries and
them just not playing well because they're a very hot
and cold team, They've had an underwhelming season. So now
they find themselves as an eighth seed playing the one seed,
and everyone's like shocked, but like Orlando's really good, you.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Know what I mean. So we'll see tonight's gonna be
a blood bath.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I'll leave you with this. Draymond Green on his podcast
had this to say that is head coach Steve curle Man.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
I knew this was COVID.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
As much as he's done for me in basketball, a
part of me think he's hindered me in my career
and what I could have become.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
He came from twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Oh, I have not had a play in our playbook,
not a single play that we run for me in
our playbook is twenty sixteen.
Speaker 9 (31:09):
But if you're going to take one gripe and not
be able to.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Move past it for all the other things, I think
you're shallow as a person. That says more about you
as a person than it does about Steve or whoever
else than that is that you gotta take the good
with the bad man.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Can he be right in both cases that he wasn't
featured at all? But I mean, how do you feature
Draymond Green if finacere him doing what? I don't know,
I think him doing what I'm trying. I'm trying to
be fair to the context of this ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
It's utter ridiculous, And you know, it's shocking because Draymond
has such a basketball he has such a high IQ.
That's what that's a big part of his game is
how smart of a basketball player he is. So it's
it bewilders me that he even things like this, because
it's like Draymond, them taking a chance on you and
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them playing you, and Steve putting you at the forefront
of that offense, making you be the point forward and
kind of the you know, letting you allow you to
have that voice and the freedom to have your you know,
whether it's his you know, spasms or what he loses it,
or to be the emotional leader of that team. Steve
let him be who he was, so to hear he
was hindered. Especially drey Bond has never been an offensive
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score jugg or not.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
He's left open eighty percent of the game. No one
guards him.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
And because he's such a high IQ player, he's been
able to take that and be a free screener for
Steph Clay, He's been this enforcer.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
He does all these things defensively to dominate.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I don't know what way he was hindered and why
they would ever draw a plays for you to score.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
You were never a scorer. In fact, the teams would
have loved it.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
If you were shooting, it'd be much better than step
knot or Clay or Kevin Not. It's like, it's just ludicrous.
I don't I don't even know where he got this from.
If Draymond was on another team in the NBA, I
don't know what his career would have looked like. No, no,
and that's not a slight to Draymond because he is
in the Hall of Fame. So it's like, take the
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fact that the guy that helped you get there is
the guy you're saying hindered you is.
Speaker 9 (33:19):
I don't understand the point. I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I did it, and I love Dre. I love his
competitive I love everything about Dre. We got drafted the
same class. I just he's too smart of a basketball
player to genuinely think this. There's no way. He's just
too good and too smart of a basketball player.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Robert or was with us a couple of weeks ago.
He said that he never had a play run for him. Now,
that's one of the great clutch shooters in NBA history,
and he said when he was with the Rockets, they
never ran a play for him. He would have a
legitimate gripe.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
Raymond because he's offensively more forward.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Draymond was a facilitator and a guy that just affects
the game and ways half of which don't even show
up on the stat sheet. Robert Horry was a guy
who fects the game by putting the ball in the basket, yeah,
and hit big shots. So he has a legitimate, like
you said, argument to be like, man, can I get
a play call for me?
Speaker 9 (34:15):
Can I get like a pick and pop.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Can I get some type of play quick action where
I can get a three off. Draymond is a guy
that you would never draw up a play to get
a post up because he's not a post up big player.
He doesn't have post skills to score, and he's not
a get a player you would draw up a play
to hit a three or get a shot because he's
never been a high shooting percentage three point shoot or score.
So I'm confused on what he wants to drawn up
for him. Maybe he wants to play drawn up for
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him to make a play because he can do that.
He's one of the best point forwards of all time.
But I don't know what he meant by that. It
just seems so weird because Steven him and I feel
like Steve's really embraced dre the whole experience of Draymond
and let him be him and be even though he's
never been the first option. Think about this, the second option,
the third option, four option. When you talk about the
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leader of the team, he's been the number one option
to allow that and let that be infester and grow.
You have to get Steve credit for that, and it's worked.
They got four rings out of it, so it's just weird.
I don't know that was a weird comment to hear
because Draymond's such a high IQ person.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What should like to get switched out to Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It's not fun. I'll be honest on an island. On
an island, I'm okay. It's like, you know, if he
drives by me and hits a lamp and I've done
my job. You know, you when you get shipped, you know,
switched out to him because I I did most of
the guarding on him. I predominantly guarded Stephan playoff series.
He's more, he's more dangerous without the ball. I hate
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chasing him. Draymond sets illegal screens. Uh but Matulia Igodala,
Livingston Festus, the zeal Lee, these guys set illegal, hard
ass screens.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
And that's what was so.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Hard to guard him when you when you were guarding
him on the ball as a guard, I was.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
I was okay with that, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
And if you hit me with something a cool buo
versus any time on the back and do it again,
you know, that's kind of mindset you have to you
have to have to do it again. Mindset, guard and
stuff you can't get otherwise your spiritual will dwindle.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, great appearance. Thanks for joining us, Austin. We appreciate you, Johnny.
I'm so proud of you all the time.
Speaker 13 (36:24):
I'm so proud of you. You're having a great broadcast careers. Dad,
very nice you did come on with Dan. Keep up
to good work. You got to give me forty eight though,
you gotta give me forty eight.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
Thank you, Thank you, Johns appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Thank you. Austin, NBC Sports Analyst tenth overall pick back.
In twenty twelve, the Hornets the exclusive coverage of the
Western Conference Finals on NBC Peacock, NBC Sports Network. We'll
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Speaker 2 (37:05):
Kind of a landmark moment here on the show if
you're watching on Peacock, we took down the wall in
between Dylan and Fritzy, and that wall has been part
of the show for a long time because McLevin hated
hearing Fritzy hack up along and then Seaton didn't want
to take it down either. Dylan gets in the chair
(37:26):
and he's all of a sudden saying, can we tear
down this wall? And you said yes? Then yeah, no,
I'm okay with it. It's open airback here.
Speaker 9 (37:34):
Now.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
I know it is.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Kind of weird. But when Fritzy, you know, it's like
twice a year he has that horrible hacking sound. Just
want to make sure you're going to be okay with that. Well,
we didn't throw the wall away. It still exists in
the back and could be reinstalled. It his best behavior.
By the way, the gambling podcast Yesterday Bad Larry quit
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in the middle of the show, and also the todcast
If you haven't heard the todcast with Todd Fritz get ready,
here is just a portion where Todd was at best Buy.
Is that right, Tod?
Speaker 7 (38:11):
Yes, I needed a new battery for my laptop.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Okay, So we pick up the story from there.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
One embarrassing moment though.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
She came with me to best Buy and I needed
like a new battery.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
For my my laptop.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Yeah, and she has all the passwords and stuff, so
she took my phone. Hey, when she takes my phone,
because sometimes I forget what I may have typed in
there and I didn't erase. Yes, I didn't erase the
search history, and I know there's ways, but whatever it was,
I didn't think I was the next thing, I'm handing
over the phone and she's right there at the front
desk and she's putting in like some kind of password
to get like five dollars off the battery at best
Buy for whatever whatever it was, and then just some
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adult entertainment stuff just poled and she's like really, And
I didn't know what she was talking about because I
didn't see what she was looking at. And then I
pretty quickly realized based on her well, why is that
such a big deal? Am I like replacing her with
you know, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Maybe the setting, because you're at best Buy.
Speaker 8 (38:59):
I think she would have been a said if we
were just alone in a hotel somewhere aye, less. So
should I be embarrassed or should should a spouse be
angry or a fiance or a boyfriend or girlfriend if
the other person, yeah, if you see on their phone
that they were recently watching, thinkual.
Speaker 12 (39:14):
I think.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
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Dan Patrick van Earl in Florida. We're going to have
our Kentucky Derby picks coming up at the top of
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the hour. Van Earl, van Earl joining us on the program.
Van Earl right joining us on the program.
Speaker 12 (39:50):
Mister Patrick, So glad to have the opportunity to visit
with you and talk with you as I roll down
the road of live here during my transition from the
South to the North. I just wanted to share an
emotion and a feeling that apparently one Draymond Green has
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an inability to express, and that is gratitude. My gratitude
to you for all the years of service. But we
all know you are the headliner, but the real stars
of the show are the dan X.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Thank you, stretch Well.
Speaker 12 (40:32):
Recent interview you conducted with Ernie Johnson, you did mention
during your last week of your show at the super
Bowl in Atlanta, you might want to bring me in
to do one more two minute say it a find
sports that's a tribute to your outstanding career, and I
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wanted to express my interest in that idea.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
All right, Earl, I'll take that under advisement the Great
Veneral Rank. Yeah. So Earl is a caddie and he
goes to Florida for the winter. So now he's coming
up here on the East coast. And got a chance
to see him a few months back. But he was
down in Florida caddying and that's that's what he's been
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doing full time. John Van Earl right over the wall
Wooden Limpid. I remember when he did Headline Sports and
he became a thing. Yeah, he was, you know, headline Sports.
Nobody even saw us on camera at CNN, and Earle
had this way of having fun with the highlights and
he created a cult following. All right, top The next
(41:38):
hour are Kentucky Derby Picks. We have no idea what
we're doing, by the way, and also no idea what
we're doing on the Kentucky Derby Picks as well. Dylan
claims he know he's a track guy. I can bang
it around, all right. Final hour in this Meet Friday
with Fritzy Dylan, Marv Paul Your's true way in the
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back room. Guys back after this