August 27, 2026 • 41 mins
Dan and the Danettes debate the merits of being a “Pro Bowler” if you’ve only ever made the team as an alternate. And former NFL HC and current analyst, Jason Garrett drops by as we approach cut down day across NFL camps.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Hour two on this Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We'll talk to the former Cowboys head coach, Jason Garrett,
on loan from Football Night in America. He'll join us
in about 20 minutes from now. Phone calls. We'll get
to more of those coming up. 877-3DP-SHOW. Good morning. If
you're watching the program, NBC Sports Now or Peacock, thank
you for downloading the app. and watching the program where
(00:26):
you get to see Fritzie, Dylan, Marv, Paul, yours truly,
and the backroom guys. We spent a lot of time
talking about the NFL finally saying goodbye to the Pro Bowl.
I don't know if they're officially going to say goodbye
to the Pro Bowl because the commissioner is quoted as saying,
number one, we want to be honored and celebrated as
(00:50):
a football player It just opened eyes. I never really
thought about it in the context of it's not honoring
the replacement players. It's honoring the guys who were selected
by the fans, by the players and by the coaches.
And so that was really the core of it. How
do we do this in the right way? And our players,
(01:11):
they did what they normally do. They had great recommendations
on how to do that. And second, a willingness to lead.
The all-star format doesn't really work for our game. It's
something we felt strongly about, and I think our players,
they deserve to be celebrated when they get to the
Pro Bowl. That didn't clear up anything for me. I mean,
(01:32):
I'm sorry, Commissioner. I think that's word salad here. Yes, Paul?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm reading the stories as well, trying to find out.
It appears that the days of any type of physical
activity around the Pro Bowl are over, no matter what happens,
whether it's a a Zoom announcement or a thing during
Super Bowl week where they all do some type of thing.
I don't think there'd be any physical activities going forward.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But I don't know if it's tune-in factor to go, hey,
tune in and find out who's first team Pro Bowl.
They don't do that for all pro, and all pro
means more than Pro Bowl. They're just trying to hold
on for dear life to get something out of this
and celebrate the players. OK, you dilute the players who
(02:16):
were actually Pro Bowl players by bringing in the seventh
or eighth alternate here. That's part of the problem with
this is Shador Sanders or Tyler Hundley. They aren't Pro
Bowl players. It's it shouldn't be about them. It should
be about the players who were named to the Pro Bowl. Well,
(02:36):
let's get rid of the name to the Pro Bowl
because it should be about the all pro players. All-Pro
gets you into the Hall of Fame. Pro Bowl can
accompany that, but I want to know how many times
you were first or second team All-Pro, because that means
a whole lot more. I don't know why it took
this long for everybody, including the commissioner, to realize, you know,
(02:58):
kind of opened my eyes. We're not really celebrating the
guys who are true Pro Bowl players. Well, even those
named to the Pro Bowl for years didn't want to
play in the Pro Bowl. Vince Young played in two
more than Tom Brady did. I don't think Tom played
in a Pro Bowl. Maybe one. Dan Marino, he didn't
(03:18):
want to play. They wanted to go to Hawaii. Get
some cocktails there, bring the family out there. Yeah, we'll
suit up and have a little bit of fun there.
That's all it was. But we've tried to make it more.
It's just not.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So the money that they would normally pay to the
winner and loser of the Pro Bowl slash Pro Bowl games,
just put that all towards the most ballin' Hawaii trip
ever for all the Pro Bowlers. And I think they
would all sign.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Up for that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, but do I get alternates in this?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You'd have enough money to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But I don't... Why? We don't need to do this. Like,
it's a participatory event. Hey, let's just celebrate everybody. Hey,
I only played in three games this year. I got
to have another quarterback on the roster. Okay. That dilutes
what you're really trying to do celebrating the Pro Bowl players.
(04:19):
Are they going to try to do something else? It
sounds like there is going to be, from what I'm told,
an evolution of the Pro Bowl. You know what that means?
They're stalling. I don't know. Just throw out a couple
of words. What about the evolution? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
do that one. Yeah, we're going to work on the
evolution of the Pro Bowl. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
To be fair to Tom Brady, his excuse for not
playing in the Pro Bowl was he was playing the
next Sunday. Seven different times.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yes, I'm playing in the Super Bowl. Saturday, the Premier
League heads to North London when the Spurs make their
home debut against Newcastle. It's a new season. Plenty to
prove when they kick off at 1030 Eastern on NBC
and Peacock. Poll question, Dylan, from hour one, and what
are we going with in hour two?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
From hour one, Dan, would you rather be a 10-time
Pro Bowler or a five-time second-team All-Pro? Had to put
that stipulation in there to try and smooth this thing out,
but still 69% are going with five-time second-team All-Pro.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You want to be an All-Pro. That's what you want.
When you look at your resume, you want to see All-Pro.
That's the best of the best. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
The crazy thing is those first-time, those first-team All-Pro guys
or second-team All-Pro guys are also 10-time Pro Bowlers. So
they're hitting both no matter what, almost like an Ed
Reed type.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, it's hard to name you to the All-Pro and
not name you to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Right, but even if you're not an All-Pro, you're still
a Pro Bowl. You're still an All-Star of some sort.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's going to change Hall of Fame resumes, I think,
because you're not going to have, you know, There's only
a certain number of players that are going to be
first team, second team, all pro. Then after that, there's
no designation. That's what I think the NFL would like
to continue is, you know, having another award ceremony, something
(06:17):
that celebrates the players that, you know, first, second team,
all pro. Yeah, but you were a Pro Bowl player
as well. Like Russell Wilson, we brought up. Ten-time Pro
Bowl player. Because of that, He was, I think, second-team
All-Pro one time. But 10-time Pro Bowl, that might be
(06:38):
how he gets into the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Paulie?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You mentioned guys that were All-Pro, first-team All-Pro, but didn't
make the Pro Bowl. That's a real small list.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Jason Kelsey, twice the center.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
In 17 and 18, he was first-team All-Pro and was
not a Pro Bowler on either of those seasons.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, just that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Remember Darius Leonard, the linebacker for the Colts?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
The Colts.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
First team all pro as a rookie did not make
the Pro Bowl. How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Stat of the day.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Bonus.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Stat of the day. Here comes that stat of the day. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
If you made the Pro Bowl once in your career
and it was as an alternate, should you expect or
want to be introduced in some kind of gathering or
on stage as a Pro Bowler in your NFL career?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You should?
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It was one time and it was an alternate because.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
They had a.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
We asked that question last hour.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
So you're reaffirming your belief in that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And you're affirming that you didn't hear me last hour.
I guess I must have missed that.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Remember I said, Let's say 10 years from now, Shador
Sanders is working for the mothership, and you introduce him
as a former Pro Bowl quarterback. Did you hear that
part of the thing?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I did hear that part.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I thought I had something a little different. So that's
the same thing as we're doing right now. I'm just
going to put a specific name on mine. Can't you
ever just surrender?
Speaker 8 (08:06):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Just raise the life flag. It's not in my nature.
Or listen to the show.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
Eleven.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
If Mitch Trubisky comes on the show tomorrow, Former Pro
Bowl quarterback Mitch Trubisky joins us.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, because it is a fact.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Vince Young has a documentary out, and he is a
former two-time Pro Bowl quarterback. Preseason games coming up tonight. Steelers, Bills, Patriots, Browns, Niners, Raiders, Rams,
and the Chargers. Something's going on over in Dublin. Dylan,
(08:41):
you being a gambler. By the way, the new gambling episode.
I think it took 30 minutes to get around to
actually picking some games. There's a whole lot going on there,
including Shea realizing he's bipolar one, not bipolar two. And
so he's changed up his meds.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Is that like first team all pro, second team all pro?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He's first team all bipolar. Oh, wow. Yes. So he
changed up his meds.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
First team bipolar.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes, first team. North Carolina was a 7.5-point underdog yesterday.
North Carolina is a 9.5-point underdog today. That's a huge jump.
Something's going on here. Is somebody not playing here? Is
Belichick not coaching? 9.5 from 7.5, Dylan. What do you
(09:32):
make of that?
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I looked when I saw that, and I didn't really
see any news of note, like personnel-wise or anything. But
I don't know. Maybe Bill had a couple crazy nights
in Dublin, and they don't think he's on top.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Of the game.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I don't think that. I don't think so either. I
don't think that's the case.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I don't really know. I actually think maybe people just
do not believe in UNC, and they've just been hammering TCU.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, but at what point did you go, oh, North
Carolina's playing TCU in Dublin?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Now we're going to make that betting line jump two points?
It seems like a lot. Yes, Paul?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You have a couple decent games on Saturday. You have
a full slate tonight, by the way, of FCS games.
You got NC State Virginia on Saturday. That's a four-point spread.
You mentioned the game you loved was that.
Memphis UNLV is Sunday night?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
No. Mine is North Dakota State Jacksonville. Yes.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
That is a seven-point spread, North Dakota State.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
877-3DP-SHOW. Email address dp at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow.
Get a couple of phone calls in here. Zach in Knoxville.
Speaker 10 (10:36):
Hi, Zach.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What do you have for me?
Speaker 11 (10:39):
Hey, DP.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 12 (10:42):
I read yesterday that Joey McGuire, the Texas Tech head coach,
said that he wouldn't be opposed to bringing on a
player that had been in the NFL. It's good to
see him learn from the Brendan Sorsby fallout. But I
was just going to ask, would you want your team
to embrace that gray area or just steer clear of it?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, it depends on what the language is, what the
rule is. And if there are no rules, I don't
blame Lane Kiffin for entertaining this. These are Two former
players that he had at Ole Miss, and they decided
they wanted to come back. They had the eligibility. Okay. Now,
the fact that these leagues didn't think about this, everybody's reactive.
(11:25):
Instead of saying, hey, if we're going to give somebody
another year of eligibility, what if they get cut in
the NFL? Then they can come back. And then you go, well, no,
you can't have that happen. Well, I guess we didn't
think it would happen. But Do I have a problem
if LSU brought these players back? I don't. You know,
(11:49):
my moral compass doesn't factor in anymore when it comes
to this. I'd love for it to. But, you know,
you go, well, do you really want to take a
guy who's been a professional, at least put on professional uniform,
you bring him back, and you're going to kick some
kid off the roster because of this? Like, do I
like that?
Speaker 7 (12:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I don't like that college basketball coaches are getting players
who are grown men, professional players in Europe. But we're
doing it. That's worse than what's going on with college football.
We've been getting guys in Europe, players in Europe for
a long time. I don't know how old they are.
They come over here, they get to play. They're grown men.
(12:33):
They're professionals over there. Hey, you got eligibility? Yeah, I
think so.
Speaker 10 (12:41):
Sure. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I've got five years of pro experience here. All right.
Come on in. Play for a little while. Let's see.
Curtis in Illinois is back.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Hi, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
What do you have for me? Hey, Morton DP.
Speaker 11 (12:56):
I'm glad that they finally got rid of the Pro
Bowl because it's not good to watch, but I think
the NFL has a great opportunity with as successful as
they've been at the draft, just having like 300,000 people
show up. Maybe they could do something similar to that.
But to kind of celebrate or include the fans of
the 30 other teams that aren't playing in the Super Bowl,
you have the stadium set up, you know, the week before.
(13:18):
So maybe make it something like that where you could
actually interact with some of your favorite players from your team.
And I'm assuming the NFL could probably make a buttload
of money doing something like that as well.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, I thought about that. I thought that the Pro
Bowl was going to be more like that where you'd
have dodgeball and some skills competition, some fun things. But
if the players and the fans were able to interact, great.
Then it could be a win-win. Players get some money.
You get celebrated-ish. It's just when you're basically begging these
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guys to come out and be a quarterback. I mean,
you're part of the Pro Bowl festivities. It doesn't say
that on your resume, I don't think. Shador Sanders, Pro
Bowl festivities quarterback? I think it just says Pro Bowl festivities. Marvin,
is that right? It just says Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
He's a Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yes, but he's not. He's not even the starting quarterback
for his own team.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Man, how can the Browns bench a Pro Bowler?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
And it's not his fault or Tyler Huntley's. They're not
starting quarterbacks, but their resume says Pro Bowl quarterback. Steve
in New Hampshire. Hi, Steve. What do you have for me?
Speaker 9 (14:34):
Hey, you guys were talking about the CTE study yesterday,
and I heard the same study on a radio show
that I listened to before you guys come on, and
they had another story that relates to it. Carlos Bradley
is a former San Diego Charger. He played linebacker for
them from 81 to 85, and he is developing something
called the Safer, S-A-F-R, It's a lightweight helmet cover made
(14:57):
of polyurethane that actually attaches directly under the helmet. So
you don't have the ugliness that we all agree the
Guardian helmet has. But it's supposed to target the defense
of the most vulnerable area of the player's head and
kind of act like as an airbag.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, thank you, Steve. You still can't stop the brain
from rattling around.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
If the Guardian helmet is going to help protect these players,
if you can make it look less like you got
a fishbowl on your head, I think you have more
players who are willing to wear it. But look, Kyle Hamilton,
he joined us in Tahoe, and he said, hey, I
sign up for this. You know, he's the all-pro safety
(15:42):
with the Ravens. You sign up for this. You know
the risk. You shouldn't be surprised. That's why when I
saw this study, I wasn't surprised. In fact, I thought
the numbers would be even worse. But if you can
come up with something that is going to protect these players, great.
It is an inherently violent sport. We know that. You
(16:05):
sign up for that. Nobody should be surprised. But that
doesn't mean we should stop trying to develop something that
will protect these players. And that's the one part that
if you get injured, you can have surgery. When you
get that first concussion, you're far more susceptible to the
next one and the next one and the next one.
(16:26):
And while that knee surgery may make you limp, you know,
later in life, you need a cane or a wheelchair.
The CTE, that's dementia. That's the difference. And players have
killed themselves because of this. Junior Seau shot himself in
the chest. So there's a lot that, you know, this
(16:49):
encompasses this study. I hope it is an evolution of
continuing to come up with something that is a little
bit safer, a little more protective. Just a little bit
will go a long way. We'll take a break. We'll
talk to the former NFL coach, Jason Garrett, on loan
from NBC Sports. We come back with that after this.
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Speaker 2 (17:49):
I get a lot of invitations. You know, somebody wants
me to go to a movie premiere. Maybe they want
me to go to a concert or maybe listen to
a speaker. And then this past spring, I got an
invitation to go to a new Italian restaurant in Dallas
called Cafe Luca. And I go, well, that's interesting since
I'm in Connecticut. I'm not going to get to Dallas
(18:12):
anytime soon. Then I keep reading, reading, and then it
says Jason Garrett is opening up a Sicilian restaurant called
Cafe Luca. How did that happen?
Speaker 13 (18:25):
That's what I'm talking about. You got to get down there.
It's a simple plane ride. You know, it's a long story.
My good friend, Babe Laufenberg for years wanted to open
up a coffee shop. And so, After about 10 years
of talking about it, I said, let's open up the
coffee shop. And we started talking to people a lot
(18:45):
smarter than we are. And they said, that's the dumbest
idea ever. You're going to work really hard.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You're going to have a hell of a coffee shop.
You're going to make $ 3 a year.
Speaker 13 (18:53):
So if you want to do something, you've got to
open up a restaurant. You've got to sell alcohol, all
of that. And I have a good friend, Julian Barsotti,
who's got six restaurants in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
And he said, what the hell? Let's do it. And
so a couple of years ago, we went to Italy.
We did a little R & D trip there. in
Milan and Bologna and Modena.
Speaker 13 (19:12):
And we came back and we said, come on, let's go.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And he's Sicilian. So we said, let's do a Sicilian.
And we did it. It's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I went to Sicily last year and it was great.
We went all over Sicily and my wife's part Italian.
So we've been all over Italy. And I said, let's
just concentrate on Sicily and see how that tastes different.
And it did. It was wonderful.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I don't know if you know this. I didn't. But
northern Italy is wealthy. They have butter.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
They have meat.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
They have all that kind of stuff. Southern Italy typically
is not.
Speaker 13 (19:49):
So it's more about fish and vegetables and fruit and
all of that, the stuff from the land.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And so that's really what we're emphasizing.
Speaker 13 (19:56):
And I'm sure you know this because of the time
you spent there, but Sicily is a crossroads in the Mediterranean, Dan, right?
Thousands of years, the Moors, the Byzantines, the Greeks, the Romans,
the Spaniards are They all lived there, conquered the place,
got kicked out, but they left their food. And our
menu is a reflection of that.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
The Anthony Bourdain of NFL coaches and analysts, Jason Garrett
joining us on the program. You got cut down day
on Sunday. I'm curious as a former player and then
as a head coach, what kind of emotions do you
take into cut down day? Did you actually cut people
as a head coach?
Speaker 12 (20:36):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 13 (20:37):
I was very sensitive because I played for a long
time and was able to make a lot of teams,
but I got cut a few times too. And so
we were very thoughtful in that process. I talked to
the player first and then coordinators talked to them, position
coaches talked to them, trainers, strength guys, all of that.
So we wanted to be very systematic. You know, regardless
(20:58):
of how long the player had been with you, you know,
they poured their heart and soul. These are their dreams
to be a We took a lot of time on
that day and spent time with the players. And the
other thing we try to do is give them honest feedback.
You know, this is why we made the decision. I'm
not saying it's necessarily right or wrong, but we made
it for these reasons. And these are the areas where
(21:19):
hopefully you can get better. If you focus on this,
this is what we saw. And then really offered, unless
the guy was really not a good guy, we offered
to help in any way we could. Make any calls
we can make for you to keep your dream alive.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Give me the coaches who cut you.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
A lot of them. You know, Jim Mora caught me
in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Did Parcells cut you?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
No, no, I never played for Coach Parcells.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay.
Speaker 13 (21:52):
You know, at the end of my career, it was more,
you know, John Gruden did. But, you know, at the
end of my career, it was a little bit like
I'm kind of hanging on. I'm doing graduate school in football.
So I understood what the deal was. But, you know,
early on, I mean, this is your dream. And I
was with the Saints for a year. The next year,
it's like you're pouring all out there. I feel like
I'm a better player. And he brings you in and says,
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you know, you're no longer with us. And it's a
hard deal. And I keep going back to the dream.
Ever since we're this high, we wanted to do this.
So there's so much emotion involved in it. And, uh,
So we tried to be very thoughtful about that process.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You got to get down to 53. Did you ever
cry in cutting a player?
Speaker 13 (22:36):
I don't know that I cried, but I was certainly emotional.
Certainly emotional and sometimes surprisingly emotional. certainly with some older,
more veteran players that you have a relationship with, but
sometimes there's a guy who just gave it all he
had and played to the optimum, to the highest level
of his talent window, and then it just wasn't going
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to work out, and you just felt sick for the guy. Typically,
if you feel like the guy has enough and he
can go somewhere else, this is a stepping stone. He'll
get a chance somewhere, but then the guy that you
know Deep down, maybe he's 24, 25. He's getting up
there a little bit, and he's not getting another chance.
Those are hard conversations.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
A couple of situations here. Let's start with the Raiders.
At some point, Mendoza is going to be in there
as your starter, but the tricky part is how long
is enough for him to watch, and then you're going
to be able to put him in the starting lineup. Yeah.
Speaker 13 (23:37):
I just think in these situations, you really have to
have a long-term time frame. And winning a game in
September of his rookie year, not really that important, to
be honest with you, particularly where that organization has been
for so long. And so this is the cornerstone player
at the most important position.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
And you have the opportunity to draft him.
Speaker 13 (23:59):
It seems like he has all the right stuff intangibly
and from an ability standpoint. So you have to protect
that asset. They did a really good job starting to
build the offensive line around them. They got a really
good young runner, all of that. So, you know, don't
get greedy. Don't put them out there too soon. Don't
feel like there's pressure from the outside. Have your plan.
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Have your timetable for him.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
And watch him. Evaluate him. Put him in pressure situations.
Watch him grow.
Speaker 13 (24:28):
You don't want to just have him sit there and
die on the vine. But don't be anxious about putting
him in too early. I go back to this all
the time. Patrick Mahomes, a Hall of Fame quarterback, arguably
the best in the business right now, sat and watched
Alex Smith for one year. So if it's good enough
for Patrick Mahomes, it's good enough for Fernando Mendoza.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But you also had the Chiefs as a playoff team,
and the Raiders aren't very good. So I would have
stayed with Alex Smith because, just to be fair to him,
if you're winning 12 games with him, there's no reason
for me to make a change. With the Raiders, you're
not going to be very good. If you get to
six wins this year, you might go, all right, seven wins.
(25:15):
That's why. I would have Mendoza stay on the sidelines
as long as possible until I know that offensive line
is really good. Bowers and Gentry are going to be healthy.
Now I can let him go out there and not
worry that he's going to be fighting like David Carr
did when he came in with the Texans. Great quarterback
in college. Didn't get the chance to show that. And
(25:38):
that offensive line, he got sacked 76 times that first year.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
The worse the team, the more careful you are.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Right?
Speaker 13 (25:46):
If it's a playoff team, picture Dan Marino in, you know,
early on there, they had been to the Superbowl the
year before, right?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
It's a good team around them.
Speaker 13 (25:55):
You know, we had Dak Prescott who played, who started
as a rookie and was remarkably won 13 games, but
we had a really good team. The Raiders don't have
that team. So I wouldn't be, I would be exceedingly
careful for him. And in our situation with Dak, Our
plan was to have him be the third quarterback. Tony
Romo and Cal Moore got hurt, so he had to play.
(26:17):
If you have a guy like Mendoza, I'd wait as
long as you can to build the team around him.
And the other part of it is, you know, when
you go through a game week and you see another quarterback,
you know, process the game plan, go play, do the
evaluation afterwards. He's a smart enough guy to grow from
those experiences as well. So he'll be that much further
along once he does play.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Talking to restaurateur Jason Garrett, the Dallas area restaurant Cafe Luca.
Maybe you're Bobby Flay. You could be like Bobby Flay,
maybe cousin or something.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
I love Bobby Flay. He's greatness, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
OK, now that you have a restaurant, you watch the
cooking shows.
Speaker 13 (27:04):
You know, I have watched the cookie shows a little bit.
I watched Bobby. You know, my mom loves Ina Gartner.
And Ina Gartner, you know her?
Speaker 9 (27:13):
No.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Barefoot Contessa? Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh, maybe I do.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, she's fantastic. So every so often I'll watch those.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You got to get Guy Fieri down there, Diners, Drive-Ins,
and Dimes.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
No question. You know, we're doing this thing. You and
I have talked about it, Coach to Coach. Yeah. Our
podcast has been really fun. Andy Reid.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
Dropped this week it's been fun but we're thinking about
doing coach to chef what do you think.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
About that i like this yeah i like that let
me go back to dac prescott because i think the
story is true that jerry jones wanted connor cook out
of michigan state is that right.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
You know, I think that's isolationist history.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Well, no, did it happen that he, the Raiders, I think,
swooped in and took Connor Cook and you guys then
took Dak Prescott? Is it true that Jerry, I'll plug
the restaurant again. It's Cafe Luca, it's Jason Gary. Okay,
did the Cowboys want Connor Cook? They settled for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 13 (28:16):
But let's think about the whole context of the thing.
In that year, 2016, we had the fourth pick of
the draft. We ended up taking Zeke Elliott. The year
that Jared Goff came out, went to the Rams, Carson Wentz,
Paxton Lynch was in that draft. There was conversation about
trading up.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
To get him, all of that.
Speaker 13 (28:37):
We had Dak in the fourth round. We had Connor
Cook in the fourth round. Connor Cook had played in
a more traditional NFL-style offense at Michigan State. There were
some concerns about him from an intangible standpoint. It wasn't
a captain of the team, even though it was a
three-year starting quarterback, all of that. We had an issue
with Tony Romo's injuries. And so we had a concern
(28:59):
about the backup quarterback and also the future quarterback of
the Cowboys. We felt like Connor Cook might be able
to transition more quickly because of the style of offense
he played in. But there was a real consensus in
our building that Dak Prescott could be the next quarterback
of the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
So we had him a little bit later in that round.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
And you're right, the Raiders swooped in and took Connor Cook,
and then we took Dak a little bit later. So
I do think that Dak's ability, but also his intangibles,
we recognize those.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I was probably a little bit off on the evaluation.
I felt like he could be.
Speaker 13 (29:40):
The next quarterback of the Cowboys, but he played in
a gun-style offense where they ran a lot of quarterback
power and those kinds of things.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I felt like the.
Speaker 13 (29:48):
Transition might be a little bit challenging for him, but
just his work ethic, his coachability, all of that, to
learn playing under center as quickly as he did was
so impressive. Obviously, for him to win 13 games as
a rookie, nobody expected that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You could have just said yes, that we were going
to take Connor Cook. That's all. You were going to
take Connor Cook, and you know what? You got Dak Prescott.
How much longer do you think if Romo, how many
more seasons do you think he could have gotten into
Hall of Fame consideration if he had stayed healthy?
Speaker 13 (30:26):
Oh, I think the biggest thing with Tony is, is
just the winning in the playoffs. Um, and, and the
quarterbacks were in the hall of fame typically have that
kind of success that they were a record breaking quarterback,
Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, you know, iconic type players of
their generation. They didn't win super bowls, but boy, those
(30:48):
are hall of fame players. You know, I think if
Tony had added to, you know, statistically very impressive career,
you know, We needed to.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
He needed to play better.
Speaker 13 (30:59):
We needed to win more games in the playoffs and
make a Super Bowl run, and he wasn't able to
do that. So I think that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I don't think the numbers are the thing that held
him back.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The Falcons situation is interesting. Maybe I'm in the minority
that I thought Tua can come in and maybe replicate
what he did with Miami when everybody was in the
lineup there because they got a lot of playmakers there.
We just had Brady Quinn on last hour, and he
said if Michael Penix Jr. was healthy, that he could
see him being the starter instead of Tua. So what
(31:32):
am I missing with Tua Tongavailoa in that offense?
Speaker 13 (31:36):
Well, I don't know the offense he played in in
Miami is the same offense he's going to play in
in Atlanta. I think they probably came from the same
place at some point. But the offense that he was
in in Miami, to me, was more of a gun-style
offense where he was getting the ball out of his
hand really quickly. And he almost was like a point guard.
(31:57):
And like you said, they had so many weapons there.
So it was RPO-like offense. and how he delivered the
ball right in behind the linebackers. And, you know, again,
like a great point card, being able to locate it.
I don't know that this offense is going to be that.
I think they're going to be a little bit more
under center. They're going to try to emphasize the zone
(32:19):
run scheme. They're going to do play action off of that.
Not to say that he can't do that, but his
downfield vertical arm probably is not as good as Penix's.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
He has different strengths.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Okay. I've been saying for years, It's such an advantage,
I would think, to have a quarterback under center. Because
you can do more with that.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
You're preaching to the choir.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay, but now why are we coming back to that?
Speaker 13 (32:48):
I think what happens a lot in football is there's
a trickle up to the NFL. These kids, if you
go to junior high games in Texas, all these quarterbacks
are in the gun.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
It's four wides.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
There's one word, you know, there's no huddle. There's all
of that stuff. There's no tight ends. There's no fullbacks.
There's none of that. So this is how these kids
grow up. They play seven on seven games. They can
throw the ball all over the place. So, so as
quarterbacks and receivers, they actually have some interesting skill, probably
more skilled than quarterbacks of a generation or two generations ago,
(33:23):
because they're doing.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
This all summer long. This is how they're growing up.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
Um, And then, you know, it gets into high school,
it gets into college, and they say, hey, this kid
just never called a play from a huddle. He's never
been under center. So now the pro offenses are bending
to them and all of that. But then you realize
pro football is different. Pro football is physical. Pro football
is 17 games on the road, bad weather, good teams,
good coordinators, and you need to be more balanced. So
(33:49):
that was what we tried to do in Dallas for years.
We were under center. We believed in the running back.
We believed in the offensive line. We believed in play
action pass.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
All of that.
Speaker 13 (33:58):
And to me, that creates a much better environment for
the quarterback to have success over time.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, I agree. He is Jason Garrett. He's done a
lot of things. Analyst on Football Night in America. Also
has the Coach to Coach podcast. But more importantly, it's
Cafe Luca. You can visit the Sicilian restaurant in Dallas. Coach,
great to talk to you again. We'll talk to you
during the season.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
And we'll fly you down anytime.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Get you a nice corner table, get a little bowl
of pasta, a glass of red. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
What's the wine over your left shoulder? The wine over
my left shoulder.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That bottle of wine there.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
The big one.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (34:40):
Uh, we do a football camp every year. It's going
to be our 25th year. Jason Garrett starfish charities at Princeton. Um, and, uh,
Kids from disadvantaged backgrounds, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania,
they come down. We have a great weekend together. And
a good friend of mine, Peter Deutsch, made us those
wine bottles every year. So everybody who comes and joins
(35:01):
us at the camp, they get a nice big wine
bottle like that.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, hopefully there's wine in it. There's wine in it.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Okay. You just said a wine bottle. Yeah.
Speaker 13 (35:11):
That was the assumption. That's a magnum. We'll save a
magnum for you.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I love it. I love it. Thank you, Coach.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Great seeing you.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
We'll take a break. More of your phone calls coming up.
That's good stuff from Jason. Take a break. Back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
We had Jason Garrett on, former Cowboys coach, and he's
got a restaurant in Dallas. Now, if you're thinking the
way I'm thinking, when I found out the name was
Cafe Luca, I thought it might be L-U-K-A. Cafe Luca... Dallas.
It's L-U-C-C-A. I think there is a village in Italy
(36:01):
called Luca. But this is the Sicilian restaurant. But this
Luca is not in Sicily. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
So you're saying the name is Luca.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Thank you, Todd. Oh, man.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Dated.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Is that too old, I saw? Yes. Yes.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I think the restaurant has a second floor.
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Speaker 9 (36:32):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Dan, I have the menu for you, and I'll just
throw one out. Cafe Luca.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
House ricotta stuffed ravioli with spicy Sicilian smashed meatball.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I think it's ricotta. Ricotta. Yeah, not ricotta. Right, Dylan?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, you don't want to sound like a cop.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
It's ricotta.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I'm not Italian.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
What? What's that mean, don't sound like a cop?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Like, you want to know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
They have a pasta, a matriciana, which has guanciale in it,
which you can really only get generally in Italy, guanciale.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
If you do go to Sicily, Terramina, which is where
they had White Lotus, that episode, that season, that's in Terramina.
It's beautiful. It looks like it's out of a movie set.
But if you do go, Sicily was great.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Just.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Because my wife had been all over Italy, and then
we decided, how about Sicily? And pleasantly surprised. Yes, Marvin?
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Are you going back there once you, quote, unquote, retire?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I'd go back there before I, quote, unquote, retire. But
I'd like to live in Italy. It's just trying to
get citizenship for six years now. Maybe I'd do a
sports radio show there. Jimmy and the salami, you know?
Sports Radio 60. Andiamo. When the sports hits you.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Thank you, Todd. We're programming. That's Amore. Tripp in Vegas
is back. Hi, Tripp. What do you have for me? Hey,
good morning, DPO.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
It's good to speak with y'all. Yesterday, after yesterday's show,
you were talking about the most loved people. I had
a question for you and a T-shirt idea. Maybe you
could have it on the front and say most loved.
In the back, you could either say DP, Patrick, and
then have the number 58. And then my next question
for you is this. Are you excited that you're only
seven to eight more deaths away from breaking the top 50?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Thank you, Tripp. I was surprised when Big Day Ray said, oh,
there's a list of most beloved celebrities. And then he said, well,
you're on the list. And I go, no, I'm not.
He goes over under 57 and a half. And I said,
I gotta be over. And I was 58th on this list. Um,
(38:57):
I don't know how they came up with the list,
but I was humbled by that. It was very nice.
Todd tended to look down upon the list.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I thought it was like be liked maybe, but it
seemed like a little bit of a stretch, but that's
just to me and my experience.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
I can't speak for everyone.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Uh, Maybe sports media that I could be on that list. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
You know, I think if we did sports media, Ernie
Johnson's got it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Ernesto is number one.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
He might be emeritus.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Ernie Johnson, one of the nicest people you ever meet.
And nobody has a bad word to say about Ernie.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
No. one.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
He's our Dolly Parton. Without the figure and the hair
and singing.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Other than that.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, other than that. Yes, Marvin. Scott Van Pelt. Van Pese, yeah.
He's not Ernesto.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
But he's there. He's in the convo. He's in there.
Second tier? He's up there. Second team all pro? Reese Davis.
Speaker 13 (39:50):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Reese Davis, one of the nicest people. Jay Harris of
the Mothership, one of the nicest people. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Yes, Dylan?
Speaker 4 (39:59):
We did, I don't know if we mentioned yesterday, but
Charles Barkley is probably up on that list, both sports-wise
and just in general, beloved figure.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Well-known.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
But, yeah, I mean, just making the list, it's awesome. Very,
very humbling.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
I wasn't surprised at all.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I was.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I was.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I'm going in the confessional here, coming up at the
top of the hour. If you're watching on Peacock or
NBC Sports Now, yes, Paul?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
In theory, would you ever want to own, run a restaurant?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
No.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
In theory? No. Doesn't everybody want to once?
Speaker 11 (40:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I've been around it. No.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
But you like the decor and you like food and
all the drinks.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
The hours are horrendous.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
What if you could be a partial partner? And I'm
not blowing smoke. I think you'd be good at it.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I wouldn't want to do it.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
A bar?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I've been asked that. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Restaurant?
I like to visit.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Bar?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I can stay in my basement. Final hour coming up.
I know the Titans were trying to do something really,
really nice. They could have done it nicer. I'll have
that for you coming up.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Hour two on this Thursday.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We'll talk to the former Cowboys head coach, Jason Garrett,
on loan from Football Night in America. He'll join us
in about 20 minutes from now. Phone calls. We'll get
to more of those coming up. 877-3DP-SHOW. Good morning. If
you're watching the program, NBC Sports Now or Peacock, thank
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(00:26):
you get to see Fritzie, Dylan, Marv, Paul, yours truly,
and the backroom guys. We spent a lot of time
talking about the NFL finally saying goodbye to the Pro Bowl.
I don't know if they're officially going to say goodbye
to the Pro Bowl because the commissioner is quoted as saying,
number one, we want to be honored and celebrated as
(00:50):
a football player It just opened eyes. I never really
thought about it in the context of it's not honoring
the replacement players. It's honoring the guys who were selected
by the fans, by the players and by the coaches.
And so that was really the core of it. How
do we do this in the right way? And our players,
(01:11):
they did what they normally do. They had great recommendations
on how to do that. And second, a willingness to lead.
The all-star format doesn't really work for our game. It's
something we felt strongly about, and I think our players,
they deserve to be celebrated when they get to the
Pro Bowl. That didn't clear up anything for me. I mean,
(01:32):
I'm sorry, Commissioner. I think that's word salad here. Yes, Paul?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm reading the stories as well, trying to find out.
It appears that the days of any type of physical
activity around the Pro Bowl are over, no matter what happens,
whether it's a a Zoom announcement or a thing during
Super Bowl week where they all do some type of thing.
I don't think there'd be any physical activities going forward.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But I don't know if it's tune-in factor to go, hey,
tune in and find out who's first team Pro Bowl.
They don't do that for all pro, and all pro
means more than Pro Bowl. They're just trying to hold
on for dear life to get something out of this
and celebrate the players. OK, you dilute the players who
(02:16):
were actually Pro Bowl players by bringing in the seventh
or eighth alternate here. That's part of the problem with
this is Shador Sanders or Tyler Hundley. They aren't Pro
Bowl players. It's it shouldn't be about them. It should
be about the players who were named to the Pro Bowl. Well,
(02:36):
let's get rid of the name to the Pro Bowl
because it should be about the all pro players. All-Pro
gets you into the Hall of Fame. Pro Bowl can
accompany that, but I want to know how many times
you were first or second team All-Pro, because that means
a whole lot more. I don't know why it took
this long for everybody, including the commissioner, to realize, you know,
(02:58):
kind of opened my eyes. We're not really celebrating the
guys who are true Pro Bowl players. Well, even those
named to the Pro Bowl for years didn't want to
play in the Pro Bowl. Vince Young played in two
more than Tom Brady did. I don't think Tom played
in a Pro Bowl. Maybe one. Dan Marino, he didn't
(03:18):
want to play. They wanted to go to Hawaii. Get
some cocktails there, bring the family out there. Yeah, we'll
suit up and have a little bit of fun there.
That's all it was. But we've tried to make it more.
It's just not.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So the money that they would normally pay to the
winner and loser of the Pro Bowl slash Pro Bowl games,
just put that all towards the most ballin' Hawaii trip
ever for all the Pro Bowlers. And I think they
would all sign.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Up for that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, but do I get alternates in this?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You'd have enough money to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But I don't... Why? We don't need to do this. Like,
it's a participatory event. Hey, let's just celebrate everybody. Hey,
I only played in three games this year. I got
to have another quarterback on the roster. Okay. That dilutes
what you're really trying to do celebrating the Pro Bowl players.
(04:19):
Are they going to try to do something else? It
sounds like there is going to be, from what I'm told,
an evolution of the Pro Bowl. You know what that means?
They're stalling. I don't know. Just throw out a couple
of words. What about the evolution? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
do that one. Yeah, we're going to work on the
evolution of the Pro Bowl. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
To be fair to Tom Brady, his excuse for not
playing in the Pro Bowl was he was playing the
next Sunday. Seven different times.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yes, I'm playing in the Super Bowl. Saturday, the Premier
League heads to North London when the Spurs make their
home debut against Newcastle. It's a new season. Plenty to
prove when they kick off at 1030 Eastern on NBC
and Peacock. Poll question, Dylan, from hour one, and what
are we going with in hour two?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
From hour one, Dan, would you rather be a 10-time
Pro Bowler or a five-time second-team All-Pro? Had to put
that stipulation in there to try and smooth this thing out,
but still 69% are going with five-time second-team All-Pro.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You want to be an All-Pro. That's what you want.
When you look at your resume, you want to see All-Pro.
That's the best of the best. Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
The crazy thing is those first-time, those first-team All-Pro guys
or second-team All-Pro guys are also 10-time Pro Bowlers. So
they're hitting both no matter what, almost like an Ed
Reed type.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, it's hard to name you to the All-Pro and
not name you to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Right, but even if you're not an All-Pro, you're still
a Pro Bowl. You're still an All-Star of some sort.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's going to change Hall of Fame resumes, I think,
because you're not going to have, you know, There's only
a certain number of players that are going to be
first team, second team, all pro. Then after that, there's
no designation. That's what I think the NFL would like
to continue is, you know, having another award ceremony, something
(06:17):
that celebrates the players that, you know, first, second team,
all pro. Yeah, but you were a Pro Bowl player
as well. Like Russell Wilson, we brought up. Ten-time Pro
Bowl player. Because of that, He was, I think, second-team
All-Pro one time. But 10-time Pro Bowl, that might be
(06:38):
how he gets into the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Paulie?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You mentioned guys that were All-Pro, first-team All-Pro, but didn't
make the Pro Bowl. That's a real small list.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Jason Kelsey, twice the center.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
In 17 and 18, he was first-team All-Pro and was
not a Pro Bowler on either of those seasons.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, just that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Remember Darius Leonard, the linebacker for the Colts?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
The Colts.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
First team all pro as a rookie did not make
the Pro Bowl. How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Stat of the day.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Bonus.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Stat of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Stat of the day. Here comes that stat of the day. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
If you made the Pro Bowl once in your career
and it was as an alternate, should you expect or
want to be introduced in some kind of gathering or
on stage as a Pro Bowler in your NFL career?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You should?
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It was one time and it was an alternate because.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
They had a.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
We asked that question last hour.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
So you're reaffirming your belief in that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And you're affirming that you didn't hear me last hour.
I guess I must have missed that.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Remember I said, Let's say 10 years from now, Shador
Sanders is working for the mothership, and you introduce him
as a former Pro Bowl quarterback. Did you hear that
part of the thing?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I did hear that part.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I thought I had something a little different. So that's
the same thing as we're doing right now. I'm just
going to put a specific name on mine. Can't you
ever just surrender?
Speaker 8 (08:06):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Just raise the life flag. It's not in my nature.
Or listen to the show.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
Eleven.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
If Mitch Trubisky comes on the show tomorrow, Former Pro
Bowl quarterback Mitch Trubisky joins us.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, because it is a fact.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Vince Young has a documentary out, and he is a
former two-time Pro Bowl quarterback. Preseason games coming up tonight. Steelers, Bills, Patriots, Browns, Niners, Raiders, Rams,
and the Chargers. Something's going on over in Dublin. Dylan,
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you being a gambler. By the way, the new gambling episode.
I think it took 30 minutes to get around to
actually picking some games. There's a whole lot going on there,
including Shea realizing he's bipolar one, not bipolar two. And
so he's changed up his meds.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Is that like first team all pro, second team all pro?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He's first team all bipolar. Oh, wow. Yes. So he
changed up his meds.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
First team bipolar.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes, first team. North Carolina was a 7.5-point underdog yesterday.
North Carolina is a 9.5-point underdog today. That's a huge jump.
Something's going on here. Is somebody not playing here? Is
Belichick not coaching? 9.5 from 7.5, Dylan. What do you
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make of that?
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I looked when I saw that, and I didn't really
see any news of note, like personnel-wise or anything. But
I don't know. Maybe Bill had a couple crazy nights
in Dublin, and they don't think he's on top.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Of the game.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I don't think that. I don't think so either. I
don't think that's the case.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I don't really know. I actually think maybe people just
do not believe in UNC, and they've just been hammering TCU.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Okay, but at what point did you go, oh, North
Carolina's playing TCU in Dublin?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Now we're going to make that betting line jump two points?
It seems like a lot. Yes, Paul?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You have a couple decent games on Saturday. You have
a full slate tonight, by the way, of FCS games.
You got NC State Virginia on Saturday. That's a four-point spread.
You mentioned the game you loved was that.
Memphis UNLV is Sunday night?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
No. Mine is North Dakota State Jacksonville. Yes.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
That is a seven-point spread, North Dakota State.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
877-3DP-SHOW. Email address dp at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow.
Get a couple of phone calls in here. Zach in Knoxville.
Speaker 10 (10:36):
Hi, Zach.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What do you have for me?
Speaker 11 (10:39):
Hey, DP.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 12 (10:42):
I read yesterday that Joey McGuire, the Texas Tech head coach,
said that he wouldn't be opposed to bringing on a
player that had been in the NFL. It's good to
see him learn from the Brendan Sorsby fallout. But I
was just going to ask, would you want your team
to embrace that gray area or just steer clear of it?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, it depends on what the language is, what the
rule is. And if there are no rules, I don't
blame Lane Kiffin for entertaining this. These are Two former
players that he had at Ole Miss, and they decided
they wanted to come back. They had the eligibility. Okay. Now,
the fact that these leagues didn't think about this, everybody's reactive.
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Instead of saying, hey, if we're going to give somebody
another year of eligibility, what if they get cut in
the NFL? Then they can come back. And then you go, well, no,
you can't have that happen. Well, I guess we didn't
think it would happen. But Do I have a problem
if LSU brought these players back? I don't. You know,
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my moral compass doesn't factor in anymore when it comes
to this. I'd love for it to. But, you know,
you go, well, do you really want to take a
guy who's been a professional, at least put on professional uniform,
you bring him back, and you're going to kick some
kid off the roster because of this? Like, do I
like that?
Speaker 7 (12:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I don't like that college basketball coaches are getting players
who are grown men, professional players in Europe. But we're
doing it. That's worse than what's going on with college football.
We've been getting guys in Europe, players in Europe for
a long time. I don't know how old they are.
They come over here, they get to play. They're grown men.
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They're professionals over there. Hey, you got eligibility? Yeah, I
think so.
Speaker 10 (12:41):
Sure. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I've got five years of pro experience here. All right.
Come on in. Play for a little while. Let's see.
Curtis in Illinois is back.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Hi, Curtis.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
What do you have for me? Hey, Morton DP.
Speaker 11 (12:56):
I'm glad that they finally got rid of the Pro
Bowl because it's not good to watch, but I think
the NFL has a great opportunity with as successful as
they've been at the draft, just having like 300,000 people
show up. Maybe they could do something similar to that.
But to kind of celebrate or include the fans of
the 30 other teams that aren't playing in the Super Bowl,
you have the stadium set up, you know, the week before.
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So maybe make it something like that where you could
actually interact with some of your favorite players from your team.
And I'm assuming the NFL could probably make a buttload
of money doing something like that as well.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, I thought about that. I thought that the Pro
Bowl was going to be more like that where you'd
have dodgeball and some skills competition, some fun things. But
if the players and the fans were able to interact, great.
Then it could be a win-win. Players get some money.
You get celebrated-ish. It's just when you're basically begging these
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guys to come out and be a quarterback. I mean,
you're part of the Pro Bowl festivities. It doesn't say
that on your resume, I don't think. Shador Sanders, Pro
Bowl festivities quarterback? I think it just says Pro Bowl festivities. Marvin,
is that right? It just says Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
He's a Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yes, but he's not. He's not even the starting quarterback
for his own team.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Man, how can the Browns bench a Pro Bowler?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
And it's not his fault or Tyler Huntley's. They're not
starting quarterbacks, but their resume says Pro Bowl quarterback. Steve
in New Hampshire. Hi, Steve. What do you have for me?
Speaker 9 (14:34):
Hey, you guys were talking about the CTE study yesterday,
and I heard the same study on a radio show
that I listened to before you guys come on, and
they had another story that relates to it. Carlos Bradley
is a former San Diego Charger. He played linebacker for
them from 81 to 85, and he is developing something
called the Safer, S-A-F-R, It's a lightweight helmet cover made
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of polyurethane that actually attaches directly under the helmet. So
you don't have the ugliness that we all agree the
Guardian helmet has. But it's supposed to target the defense
of the most vulnerable area of the player's head and
kind of act like as an airbag.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, thank you, Steve. You still can't stop the brain
from rattling around.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
If the Guardian helmet is going to help protect these players,
if you can make it look less like you got
a fishbowl on your head, I think you have more
players who are willing to wear it. But look, Kyle Hamilton,
he joined us in Tahoe, and he said, hey, I
sign up for this. You know, he's the all-pro safety
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with the Ravens. You sign up for this. You know
the risk. You shouldn't be surprised. That's why when I
saw this study, I wasn't surprised. In fact, I thought
the numbers would be even worse. But if you can
come up with something that is going to protect these players, great.
It is an inherently violent sport. We know that. You
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sign up for that. Nobody should be surprised. But that
doesn't mean we should stop trying to develop something that
will protect these players. And that's the one part that
if you get injured, you can have surgery. When you
get that first concussion, you're far more susceptible to the
next one and the next one and the next one.
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And while that knee surgery may make you limp, you know,
later in life, you need a cane or a wheelchair.
The CTE, that's dementia. That's the difference. And players have
killed themselves because of this. Junior Seau shot himself in
the chest. So there's a lot that, you know, this
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encompasses this study. I hope it is an evolution of
continuing to come up with something that is a little
bit safer, a little more protective. Just a little bit
will go a long way. We'll take a break. We'll
talk to the former NFL coach, Jason Garrett, on loan
from NBC Sports. We come back with that after this.
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Speaker 2 (17:49):
I get a lot of invitations. You know, somebody wants
me to go to a movie premiere. Maybe they want
me to go to a concert or maybe listen to
a speaker. And then this past spring, I got an
invitation to go to a new Italian restaurant in Dallas
called Cafe Luca. And I go, well, that's interesting since
I'm in Connecticut. I'm not going to get to Dallas
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anytime soon. Then I keep reading, reading, and then it
says Jason Garrett is opening up a Sicilian restaurant called
Cafe Luca. How did that happen?
Speaker 13 (18:25):
That's what I'm talking about. You got to get down there.
It's a simple plane ride. You know, it's a long story.
My good friend, Babe Laufenberg for years wanted to open
up a coffee shop. And so, After about 10 years
of talking about it, I said, let's open up the
coffee shop. And we started talking to people a lot
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smarter than we are. And they said, that's the dumbest
idea ever. You're going to work really hard.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You're going to have a hell of a coffee shop.
You're going to make $ 3 a year.
Speaker 13 (18:53):
So if you want to do something, you've got to
open up a restaurant. You've got to sell alcohol, all
of that. And I have a good friend, Julian Barsotti,
who's got six restaurants in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
And he said, what the hell? Let's do it. And
so a couple of years ago, we went to Italy.
We did a little R & D trip there. in
Milan and Bologna and Modena.
Speaker 13 (19:12):
And we came back and we said, come on, let's go.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And he's Sicilian. So we said, let's do a Sicilian.
And we did it. It's been fantastic.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I went to Sicily last year and it was great.
We went all over Sicily and my wife's part Italian.
So we've been all over Italy. And I said, let's
just concentrate on Sicily and see how that tastes different.
And it did. It was wonderful.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I don't know if you know this. I didn't. But
northern Italy is wealthy. They have butter.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
They have meat.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
They have all that kind of stuff. Southern Italy typically
is not.
Speaker 13 (19:49):
So it's more about fish and vegetables and fruit and
all of that, the stuff from the land.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And so that's really what we're emphasizing.
Speaker 13 (19:56):
And I'm sure you know this because of the time
you spent there, but Sicily is a crossroads in the Mediterranean, Dan, right?
Thousands of years, the Moors, the Byzantines, the Greeks, the Romans,
the Spaniards are They all lived there, conquered the place,
got kicked out, but they left their food. And our
menu is a reflection of that.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
The Anthony Bourdain of NFL coaches and analysts, Jason Garrett
joining us on the program. You got cut down day
on Sunday. I'm curious as a former player and then
as a head coach, what kind of emotions do you
take into cut down day? Did you actually cut people
as a head coach?
Speaker 12 (20:36):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 13 (20:37):
I was very sensitive because I played for a long
time and was able to make a lot of teams,
but I got cut a few times too. And so
we were very thoughtful in that process. I talked to
the player first and then coordinators talked to them, position
coaches talked to them, trainers, strength guys, all of that.
So we wanted to be very systematic. You know, regardless
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of how long the player had been with you, you know,
they poured their heart and soul. These are their dreams
to be a We took a lot of time on
that day and spent time with the players. And the
other thing we try to do is give them honest feedback.
You know, this is why we made the decision. I'm
not saying it's necessarily right or wrong, but we made
it for these reasons. And these are the areas where
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hopefully you can get better. If you focus on this,
this is what we saw. And then really offered, unless
the guy was really not a good guy, we offered
to help in any way we could. Make any calls
we can make for you to keep your dream alive.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Give me the coaches who cut you.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
A lot of them. You know, Jim Mora caught me
in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Did Parcells cut you?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
No, no, I never played for Coach Parcells.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay.
Speaker 13 (21:52):
You know, at the end of my career, it was more,
you know, John Gruden did. But, you know, at the
end of my career, it was a little bit like
I'm kind of hanging on. I'm doing graduate school in football.
So I understood what the deal was. But, you know,
early on, I mean, this is your dream. And I
was with the Saints for a year. The next year,
it's like you're pouring all out there. I feel like
I'm a better player. And he brings you in and says,
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you know, you're no longer with us. And it's a
hard deal. And I keep going back to the dream.
Ever since we're this high, we wanted to do this.
So there's so much emotion involved in it. And, uh,
So we tried to be very thoughtful about that process.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You got to get down to 53. Did you ever
cry in cutting a player?
Speaker 13 (22:36):
I don't know that I cried, but I was certainly emotional.
Certainly emotional and sometimes surprisingly emotional. certainly with some older,
more veteran players that you have a relationship with, but
sometimes there's a guy who just gave it all he
had and played to the optimum, to the highest level
of his talent window, and then it just wasn't going
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to work out, and you just felt sick for the guy. Typically,
if you feel like the guy has enough and he
can go somewhere else, this is a stepping stone. He'll
get a chance somewhere, but then the guy that you
know Deep down, maybe he's 24, 25. He's getting up
there a little bit, and he's not getting another chance.
Those are hard conversations.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
A couple of situations here. Let's start with the Raiders.
At some point, Mendoza is going to be in there
as your starter, but the tricky part is how long
is enough for him to watch, and then you're going
to be able to put him in the starting lineup. Yeah.
Speaker 13 (23:37):
I just think in these situations, you really have to
have a long-term time frame. And winning a game in
September of his rookie year, not really that important, to
be honest with you, particularly where that organization has been
for so long. And so this is the cornerstone player
at the most important position.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
And you have the opportunity to draft him.
Speaker 13 (23:59):
It seems like he has all the right stuff intangibly
and from an ability standpoint. So you have to protect
that asset. They did a really good job starting to
build the offensive line around them. They got a really
good young runner, all of that. So, you know, don't
get greedy. Don't put them out there too soon. Don't
feel like there's pressure from the outside. Have your plan.
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Have your timetable for him.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
And watch him. Evaluate him. Put him in pressure situations.
Watch him grow.
Speaker 13 (24:28):
You don't want to just have him sit there and
die on the vine. But don't be anxious about putting
him in too early. I go back to this all
the time. Patrick Mahomes, a Hall of Fame quarterback, arguably
the best in the business right now, sat and watched
Alex Smith for one year. So if it's good enough
for Patrick Mahomes, it's good enough for Fernando Mendoza.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But you also had the Chiefs as a playoff team,
and the Raiders aren't very good. So I would have
stayed with Alex Smith because, just to be fair to him,
if you're winning 12 games with him, there's no reason
for me to make a change. With the Raiders, you're
not going to be very good. If you get to
six wins this year, you might go, all right, seven wins.
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That's why. I would have Mendoza stay on the sidelines
as long as possible until I know that offensive line
is really good. Bowers and Gentry are going to be healthy.
Now I can let him go out there and not
worry that he's going to be fighting like David Carr
did when he came in with the Texans. Great quarterback
in college. Didn't get the chance to show that. And
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that offensive line, he got sacked 76 times that first year.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
The worse the team, the more careful you are.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Right?
Speaker 13 (25:46):
If it's a playoff team, picture Dan Marino in, you know,
early on there, they had been to the Superbowl the
year before, right?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
It's a good team around them.
Speaker 13 (25:55):
You know, we had Dak Prescott who played, who started
as a rookie and was remarkably won 13 games, but
we had a really good team. The Raiders don't have
that team. So I wouldn't be, I would be exceedingly
careful for him. And in our situation with Dak, Our
plan was to have him be the third quarterback. Tony
Romo and Cal Moore got hurt, so he had to play.
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If you have a guy like Mendoza, I'd wait as
long as you can to build the team around him.
And the other part of it is, you know, when
you go through a game week and you see another quarterback,
you know, process the game plan, go play, do the
evaluation afterwards. He's a smart enough guy to grow from
those experiences as well. So he'll be that much further
along once he does play.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Talking to restaurateur Jason Garrett, the Dallas area restaurant Cafe Luca.
Maybe you're Bobby Flay. You could be like Bobby Flay,
maybe cousin or something.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
I love Bobby Flay. He's greatness, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
OK, now that you have a restaurant, you watch the
cooking shows.
Speaker 13 (27:04):
You know, I have watched the cookie shows a little bit.
I watched Bobby. You know, my mom loves Ina Gartner.
And Ina Gartner, you know her?
Speaker 9 (27:13):
No.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Barefoot Contessa? Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh, maybe I do.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, she's fantastic. So every so often I'll watch those.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You got to get Guy Fieri down there, Diners, Drive-Ins,
and Dimes.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
No question. You know, we're doing this thing. You and
I have talked about it, Coach to Coach. Yeah. Our
podcast has been really fun. Andy Reid.
Speaker 13 (27:32):
Dropped this week it's been fun but we're thinking about
doing coach to chef what do you think.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
About that i like this yeah i like that let
me go back to dac prescott because i think the
story is true that jerry jones wanted connor cook out
of michigan state is that right.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
You know, I think that's isolationist history.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Well, no, did it happen that he, the Raiders, I think,
swooped in and took Connor Cook and you guys then
took Dak Prescott? Is it true that Jerry, I'll plug
the restaurant again. It's Cafe Luca, it's Jason Gary. Okay,
did the Cowboys want Connor Cook? They settled for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 13 (28:16):
But let's think about the whole context of the thing.
In that year, 2016, we had the fourth pick of
the draft. We ended up taking Zeke Elliott. The year
that Jared Goff came out, went to the Rams, Carson Wentz,
Paxton Lynch was in that draft. There was conversation about
trading up.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
To get him, all of that.
Speaker 13 (28:37):
We had Dak in the fourth round. We had Connor
Cook in the fourth round. Connor Cook had played in
a more traditional NFL-style offense at Michigan State. There were
some concerns about him from an intangible standpoint. It wasn't
a captain of the team, even though it was a
three-year starting quarterback, all of that. We had an issue
with Tony Romo's injuries. And so we had a concern
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about the backup quarterback and also the future quarterback of
the Cowboys. We felt like Connor Cook might be able
to transition more quickly because of the style of offense
he played in. But there was a real consensus in
our building that Dak Prescott could be the next quarterback
of the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
So we had him a little bit later in that round.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
And you're right, the Raiders swooped in and took Connor Cook,
and then we took Dak a little bit later. So
I do think that Dak's ability, but also his intangibles,
we recognize those.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I was probably a little bit off on the evaluation.
I felt like he could be.
Speaker 13 (29:40):
The next quarterback of the Cowboys, but he played in
a gun-style offense where they ran a lot of quarterback
power and those kinds of things.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I felt like the.
Speaker 13 (29:48):
Transition might be a little bit challenging for him, but
just his work ethic, his coachability, all of that, to
learn playing under center as quickly as he did was
so impressive. Obviously, for him to win 13 games as
a rookie, nobody expected that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
You could have just said yes, that we were going
to take Connor Cook. That's all. You were going to
take Connor Cook, and you know what? You got Dak Prescott.
How much longer do you think if Romo, how many
more seasons do you think he could have gotten into
Hall of Fame consideration if he had stayed healthy?
Speaker 13 (30:26):
Oh, I think the biggest thing with Tony is, is
just the winning in the playoffs. Um, and, and the
quarterbacks were in the hall of fame typically have that
kind of success that they were a record breaking quarterback,
Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, you know, iconic type players of
their generation. They didn't win super bowls, but boy, those
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are hall of fame players. You know, I think if
Tony had added to, you know, statistically very impressive career,
you know, We needed to.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
He needed to play better.
Speaker 13 (30:59):
We needed to win more games in the playoffs and
make a Super Bowl run, and he wasn't able to
do that. So I think that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I don't think the numbers are the thing that held
him back.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The Falcons situation is interesting. Maybe I'm in the minority
that I thought Tua can come in and maybe replicate
what he did with Miami when everybody was in the
lineup there because they got a lot of playmakers there.
We just had Brady Quinn on last hour, and he
said if Michael Penix Jr. was healthy, that he could
see him being the starter instead of Tua. So what
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am I missing with Tua Tongavailoa in that offense?
Speaker 13 (31:36):
Well, I don't know the offense he played in in
Miami is the same offense he's going to play in
in Atlanta. I think they probably came from the same
place at some point. But the offense that he was
in in Miami, to me, was more of a gun-style
offense where he was getting the ball out of his
hand really quickly. And he almost was like a point guard.
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And like you said, they had so many weapons there.
So it was RPO-like offense. and how he delivered the
ball right in behind the linebackers. And, you know, again,
like a great point card, being able to locate it.
I don't know that this offense is going to be that.
I think they're going to be a little bit more
under center. They're going to try to emphasize the zone
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run scheme. They're going to do play action off of that.
Not to say that he can't do that, but his
downfield vertical arm probably is not as good as Penix's.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
He has different strengths.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Okay. I've been saying for years, It's such an advantage,
I would think, to have a quarterback under center. Because
you can do more with that.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
You're preaching to the choir.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay, but now why are we coming back to that?
Speaker 13 (32:48):
I think what happens a lot in football is there's
a trickle up to the NFL. These kids, if you
go to junior high games in Texas, all these quarterbacks
are in the gun.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
It's four wides.
Speaker 13 (33:02):
There's one word, you know, there's no huddle. There's all
of that stuff. There's no tight ends. There's no fullbacks.
There's none of that. So this is how these kids
grow up. They play seven on seven games. They can
throw the ball all over the place. So, so as
quarterbacks and receivers, they actually have some interesting skill, probably
more skilled than quarterbacks of a generation or two generations ago,
(33:23):
because they're doing.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
This all summer long. This is how they're growing up.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
Um, And then, you know, it gets into high school,
it gets into college, and they say, hey, this kid
just never called a play from a huddle. He's never
been under center. So now the pro offenses are bending
to them and all of that. But then you realize
pro football is different. Pro football is physical. Pro football
is 17 games on the road, bad weather, good teams,
good coordinators, and you need to be more balanced. So
(33:49):
that was what we tried to do in Dallas for years.
We were under center. We believed in the running back.
We believed in the offensive line. We believed in play
action pass.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
All of that.
Speaker 13 (33:58):
And to me, that creates a much better environment for
the quarterback to have success over time.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, I agree. He is Jason Garrett. He's done a
lot of things. Analyst on Football Night in America. Also
has the Coach to Coach podcast. But more importantly, it's
Cafe Luca. You can visit the Sicilian restaurant in Dallas. Coach,
great to talk to you again. We'll talk to you
during the season.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
And we'll fly you down anytime.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Get you a nice corner table, get a little bowl
of pasta, a glass of red. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
What's the wine over your left shoulder? The wine over
my left shoulder.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That bottle of wine there.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
The big one.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (34:40):
Uh, we do a football camp every year. It's going
to be our 25th year. Jason Garrett starfish charities at Princeton. Um, and, uh,
Kids from disadvantaged backgrounds, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania,
they come down. We have a great weekend together. And
a good friend of mine, Peter Deutsch, made us those
wine bottles every year. So everybody who comes and joins
(35:01):
us at the camp, they get a nice big wine
bottle like that.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, hopefully there's wine in it. There's wine in it.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Okay. You just said a wine bottle. Yeah.
Speaker 13 (35:11):
That was the assumption. That's a magnum. We'll save a
magnum for you.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I love it. I love it. Thank you, Coach.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Great seeing you.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
We'll take a break. More of your phone calls coming up.
That's good stuff from Jason. Take a break. Back after this.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
We had Jason Garrett on, former Cowboys coach, and he's
got a restaurant in Dallas. Now, if you're thinking the
way I'm thinking, when I found out the name was
Cafe Luca, I thought it might be L-U-K-A. Cafe Luca... Dallas.
It's L-U-C-C-A. I think there is a village in Italy
(36:01):
called Luca. But this is the Sicilian restaurant. But this
Luca is not in Sicily. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
So you're saying the name is Luca.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Thank you, Todd. Oh, man.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Dated.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Is that too old, I saw? Yes. Yes.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I think the restaurant has a second floor.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
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Speaker 9 (36:32):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Dan, I have the menu for you, and I'll just
throw one out. Cafe Luca.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
House ricotta stuffed ravioli with spicy Sicilian smashed meatball.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I think it's ricotta. Ricotta. Yeah, not ricotta. Right, Dylan?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, you don't want to sound like a cop.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
It's ricotta.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I'm not Italian.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
What? What's that mean, don't sound like a cop?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Like, you want to know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (37:01):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
They have a pasta, a matriciana, which has guanciale in it,
which you can really only get generally in Italy, guanciale.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
If you do go to Sicily, Terramina, which is where
they had White Lotus, that episode, that season, that's in Terramina.
It's beautiful. It looks like it's out of a movie set.
But if you do go, Sicily was great.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Just.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Because my wife had been all over Italy, and then
we decided, how about Sicily? And pleasantly surprised. Yes, Marvin?
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Are you going back there once you, quote, unquote, retire?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I'd go back there before I, quote, unquote, retire. But
I'd like to live in Italy. It's just trying to
get citizenship for six years now. Maybe I'd do a
sports radio show there. Jimmy and the salami, you know?
Sports Radio 60. Andiamo. When the sports hits you.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Thank you, Todd. We're programming. That's Amore. Tripp in Vegas
is back. Hi, Tripp. What do you have for me? Hey,
good morning, DPO.
Speaker 10 (38:10):
It's good to speak with y'all. Yesterday, after yesterday's show,
you were talking about the most loved people. I had
a question for you and a T-shirt idea. Maybe you
could have it on the front and say most loved.
In the back, you could either say DP, Patrick, and
then have the number 58. And then my next question
for you is this. Are you excited that you're only
seven to eight more deaths away from breaking the top 50?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Thank you, Tripp. I was surprised when Big Day Ray said, oh,
there's a list of most beloved celebrities. And then he said, well,
you're on the list. And I go, no, I'm not.
He goes over under 57 and a half. And I said,
I gotta be over. And I was 58th on this list. Um,
(38:57):
I don't know how they came up with the list,
but I was humbled by that. It was very nice.
Todd tended to look down upon the list.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I thought it was like be liked maybe, but it
seemed like a little bit of a stretch, but that's
just to me and my experience.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
I can't speak for everyone.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Uh, Maybe sports media that I could be on that list. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
You know, I think if we did sports media, Ernie
Johnson's got it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Ernesto is number one.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
He might be emeritus.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Ernie Johnson, one of the nicest people you ever meet.
And nobody has a bad word to say about Ernie.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
No. one.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
He's our Dolly Parton. Without the figure and the hair
and singing.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Other than that.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, other than that. Yes, Marvin. Scott Van Pelt. Van Pese, yeah.
He's not Ernesto.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
But he's there. He's in the convo. He's in there.
Second tier? He's up there. Second team all pro? Reese Davis.
Speaker 13 (39:50):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Reese Davis, one of the nicest people. Jay Harris of
the Mothership, one of the nicest people. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Yes, Dylan?
Speaker 4 (39:59):
We did, I don't know if we mentioned yesterday, but
Charles Barkley is probably up on that list, both sports-wise
and just in general, beloved figure.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Well-known.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
But, yeah, I mean, just making the list, it's awesome. Very,
very humbling.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
I wasn't surprised at all.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
I was.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
I was.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I'm going in the confessional here, coming up at the
top of the hour. If you're watching on Peacock or
NBC Sports Now, yes, Paul?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
In theory, would you ever want to own, run a restaurant?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
No.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
In theory? No. Doesn't everybody want to once?
Speaker 11 (40:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I've been around it. No.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
But you like the decor and you like food and
all the drinks.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
The hours are horrendous.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
What if you could be a partial partner? And I'm
not blowing smoke. I think you'd be good at it.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I wouldn't want to do it.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
A bar?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I've been asked that. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Restaurant?
I like to visit.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Bar?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I can stay in my basement. Final hour coming up.
I know the Titans were trying to do something really,
really nice. They could have done it nicer. I'll have
that for you coming up.
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