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November 10, 2025 40 mins

Dan talks to former NFL DT Gerald McCoy who talks about being smart on the football field and how to disrupt an NFL quarterback. And Patrick “Seton” O’Connor checks in as he returns to West Virginia for the first time in decades.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Monday, Dan and the Dan at Stan Patrick Show.
We got Todd here. Dylan's in for Seaton. Seaton's on
the road the Maco van drive into Vegas where we'll
be next week Formula one. We haven't done anything like
that before. We get to stay at the Fountain Blue.
It'll be a great vacation for us to go out there,
have a little bit of fun and we know that

(00:28):
the Fountain BOOPLEEP people always take care of us. Will
be on the road and we get to bond.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's this is team building as well when you go
to Las Vegas and get up at four thirty in
the morning. Yes, Dylan, will you be joining us at
Pitbull at pit Bowl? Is that Friday night? It is
Friday night? Probably not? Should we see if he can
make it Thursday? If okay, here, I'll say this, if
Pitbull joins us on our show, then I'll go to

(00:56):
his show.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Like we'll do a home and home like that. Okay,
But yeah, I don't know if I could take all
the excitement with a pit Bull show, but I'd be
open to it. If I went to see Britney Spears,
I'll go see Pitbull. I wish here's at the sphere.
Imagine Pitbull at the sphere. No, if I do, I
couldn't imagine that. That'd be incredible, all right? Age seven

(01:21):
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there for the Big Game. Yes, Okay, that big game, Yes, Pom.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
But when there's not a sponsorship, we could say the
phrase yes and not even say it until we're clearly
away from them.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah we can't. Yeah, but it's a Super Week in
San Francisco in February.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Come on out and join us. Yes, Dylan, what about
just could you call it Bowl Week like you just?
Can you use half of it and then you're good.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think Super Week probably gets the job done.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
We're talking about maybe should we have a T shirts
that say the Big Game at Super Week.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Like sures generic with the NFL logo. Well, we did
have a T shirt that we put up that just
said football on it years ago. That's a good one. Actually, yeah,
it is. Shuck around and find out. I think that
T shirt's still available. Tyler Shuck played really well yesterday,
a couple of touchdown passes for the new and improved Saints.

(02:51):
All right, eight seven, seven to three. D P Show,
as we always do every Monday, Best and worst of
the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like?
Dylan with you update the poll results from our one.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Yes, Dan, so our one poll was after this weekend.
Who is more deserving of the NFL MVP? Drake may
or Jonathan Taylor or other? But Jonathan Taylor is seventy
three percent.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Of the vote. Yeah, he's not going to win it,
he's not, But I hope that he puts up those
numbers and the Colts continue to win. So it puts
pressure on the voters that it shouldn't be We got
an Offensive Player of the Year award. Therefore, if you're
a wide receiver running back, that's your award, and meanwhile

(03:36):
the quarterbacks get to win MVPs. I go back to
when Babe Ruth was dominating. I don't think he could
win the MVP and back to back years. So when
you look, I don't know how many MVPs Babe Ruth had,
but I don't think he was. You were allowed to
have back to back MVPs. Now I could be totally
making that up. Yeah, Paulie, you know Babe.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Ruth in his career twenty two years had won MVP
at age twenty three. Now, I've done some research on
this in the past and I have to double check,
but I don't think there was an MVP award for
most of his career. Okay, but again, in nineteen twenty nine,
he hit forty nine home runs and finished tenth in

(04:17):
the MVP.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't understand it. Can we see if you were
allowed to win back to back MVPs, because I don't
think you were. Yes, Marvin, all right.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
So Babe Route was only eligible to win the American
League MVP once because the award rules at the time
prohibit repeat.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Winners, imagine that maybe we should do that now, Yes, Paul,
because he.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Had a season after winning the MVP where he hit
three seventy eight, had hit forty six home runs, and
he was not eligible for voting.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's unbelievable. Unbelievable, all right, So the poll question is,
is there an addendum to the pole question?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Here?

Speaker 5 (04:57):
For hour two, Dylan, Well, we've got a new on
Actually Paul sent this last hour, but just straight up,
who had the worst weekend?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Bills, Jaguars, Panthers, Steelers or other? I'd say the Bills.
That's brutal, Yeah, because the Patriots are winning and it's
not a foregone conclusion that the Bills are the best
team in the division or they're going to have the
best record. And the Jags, I mean, the Jags going
to have a They have to have a hard discussion

(05:28):
as they move forward, and they paid their quarterback. But
you got to have those difficult conversations. You don't want
to be middle of the road, and that's what they
feel like. You know, you got a new coach, offensive
minded coach, and I thought, okay, got some weapons here.

(05:48):
You're going to have to have a difficult conversation there
moving forward, because I'm going to give you three or
four years, four years at the most. I should know
who you are those four years. And this is where
you extend somebody and you're like, you don't have to. Yeah,
you could franchise them, make them play the final year.

(06:12):
I know you want to show confidence in your franchise quarterback,
but there's there's going to have to be some conversations.
Carolina feels like there has to be conversations. I don't
think Miami. I don't think they can really move on
from Tua. You know San Francisco with Rock Purdy and
Mac Jones. I mean, they got too much money in

(06:34):
Rock Purty, but Mac Jones has proven that he can
play as well in that system. Yeah, PAULI Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Last year he was hurt, so you'd got to give
him a hall pass, but he had eleven touchdowns and
seven picks. This year in nine starts, he's a fifty
nine percent passer, ten touchdowns, seven picks.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Now the team isn't bad. They're just, like you said,
middle of the road, not bad enough to blow up.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah. Uh, well, let's see Greg in Michigan Morning Greg
what's on your mind?

Speaker 7 (07:04):
Good morning, damn the man. Hey, I gotta tell you,
I'm known as mister positive around the world. But I
love that you love Elvis, and I love when you
had Josh Elvis Allen on and you said, what is
his most prized possession? And he pointed to a picture
of Elvis on the wall? Do you remember that?

Speaker 8 (07:22):
No?

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Oh, geez, Dan, Dan okay. It was a fantastic interview,
real quick, and I know that I'm getting slightly off topic.
Do you ever broach politics? No, very good, sir, hey,
real quick. And then I got to ask you my
Buffalo Bills. What's wrong with them? I don't understand. I

(07:47):
want them to win the Super Bowl? Obviously. With the Detroit.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Lions, it's one week. It's one week.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
It's just why could he? I mean, how can he
fall so flat?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
You just beat Kansas City. The Dolphins do this every year.
These guys get paid to play and these things happen.
There's always these strange games. But thank you Greg for
the phone call. Sorry, I don't remember all of my interviews. Yes, PAULI,
by the way, a weird thing with the Dolphins. They

(08:20):
have the Saints, the Jets and the Steelers and the
Bengals over the next four weeks, and the Commanders a
lot of winnable games. Did they miss their window for
removing their head coach? I don't think he's there next year?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
What if they somehow won, I.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Don't think that they got You're gonna bring in a
new GM, so that if Chris Greer was still there,
then I would say, Okay, maybe they can keep their jobs.
You fire the GM, now you're going to bring in
a GM. And I don't know how many times a
GM comes in and goes You know, I'm fine with
that coach if if that coach got the GM fired,

(09:00):
am I keeping that coach even though they might win
some games? Mike and Wisconsin? I Mike, what's on your
mind today?

Speaker 7 (09:09):
Hey? What up?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Fellas?

Speaker 9 (09:10):
Bringing the negative vibes of seating out today on a Monday.
I got a worse than op Worster, my worst Jackson
Dart just a rookie already in concussion for all for time.
Kind of a sad situation after a promise you can
start my Worster ole miss. This was Beak eleven of
the college football season, and they played the Citadel and

(09:30):
they moved up in the rankings.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
That is hot.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
You, Mike.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I don't think you should be able to move
up in the rankings if you play a team that
is not worthy.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
But yeah, Ole miss beat the Citadel. Yes, uh, Dylan,
I believe the spread on that game was about fifty
four points.

Speaker 7 (09:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
See, I can't go. Wow, you exceeded our expectations and
how well you played against the Citadel. Let's see Jay
and Delaware. Hi, j what's on your mind today?

Speaker 9 (10:07):
Hey, good morning, Dan. I hope you're in Georgia. Three
day weekend. Ross did an amazing job for usual, and
it'll be fun listening to Ross and the Ross sets
in March two, twenty eight. My best and worst of
the weekend, I'll start off my worst that Niners game.
It just frustrated me and pissed me off the no end.
Watching a seventy three year old quarterback run around, have

(10:30):
forty five seconds to throw the ball and we didn't
make a move for another pass rusher d Lineman. It
just made me even more mad. But on the brighter side,
good in that game. Kyle Shanahan came out for the
first time this season and said there was no injuries
after the game. All right, you guys have a great Monday.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
All right, Jay, keep your head up there now. Matthew
Stafford looks spright. It looks lively. Yeah, Marvin, I.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Would too if I Hukakua DeVante Adams on my team.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, I know, man, you forget DeVante Adams like, that's
one of those Pooka might not be open, Davante. One
of the two will be open every single play. You
got good running backs, you've got a great head coach.
Defense can be stout playmakers there, Yes, Marmon.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
Matthew Stafford, he might be one of those guys where
we forgot or the general public forgot that he played
for the lines, just because he's going on this incredible
run with the Rams.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Raymond in Scottsdale, Hey Raymond.

Speaker 10 (11:33):
Good morning, sir, How are you good. I think this
gambling issue is a lot more ominous than we're making
it out to be. The three big sins in society
are what drugs, gambling, and prostitution. Yes, sports complex is
deeply involved in two of them. They only got one
more to go and they are there. I don't really

(11:55):
care that people gamble. I've seen it my whole life.
I'm from the South Side of Chicago. I've seen my
gamble is life away, so I like, you understand this,
But it's one thing when you gamble, it's something else
when the casino is also the owner of the league.
They've got referees that work for the casino. And my
father used to tell me when a card dealer wants

(12:16):
to kill a game, he'll miss deal and crashes everybody,
and that's how you get killed. There's going to be
violence over this, and it's coming like a freight trade
because I'm not worried about the point shaving because nobody
else really cares about point shaving unless you are throwing
the game. So there's a moral rationale that is made there.
But when you have a coach. Fifteen years ago, I

(12:38):
listened to Al Michael call a game and this is
exactly what he said. They're on the thirty, there's a
one minute to go, they've got a three point lead,
and everybody wants to know are they going to kick
the field goal and cover the spread. That's exactly what
point shaving is. Only it wasn't an issue because the
league isn't the casino. Now the league is the casino
and now they know who everybody is, and now they

(13:00):
know who the refs are, and now they're watching. And
I am just telling you, the rhetoric, the philosophical rhetoric,
is not going to matter. Someone's going to really get
hurt and I'm afraid we're going to see it. And
I don't know what the fix is going to be.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
But yeah, there's more safeguards there, Thank you, Raymond. There's
more safeguards in place because there has to be. Now
there's more availability to be able to gamble, but they
have to have more safeguards in here. And I think
that's the difference because Vegas. You need Vegas to police
all of this. That's what they do. It's just you

(13:39):
get a player who thinks nobody's going to notice. And
that's what's happened. Hey, we're going to do these illegal
poker games. Who's going to know? Hey, I'm going to
bring in somebody and you're going to flee them for
a million dollars. I get a little kick back here.
Who's going to know? It's when you get compromised, and
then that's when you have to pay off a debt.

(14:01):
That's what I'm worried about. And you know somebody said, well,
if you have a quarterback, a big time quarterback, does
that get everybody's attention. Yes, but they're making fifty million dollars.
It's the guy that is not making that. That's the
person I worry about. And I think as we move

(14:21):
forward with this, it's going to be fluid because there'll
be moments and a prop bet I can change the
outcome with one pitch and I can still win the game.
And this clause with the Guardians is one of the
top relievers in the game. He and his buddies. Hey,

(14:45):
I'm gonna throw this pitch, just this pitch, and it's
not going to be above ninety four miles an hour,
or it's going to be a ball, and then you
can bet on that. You're just inviting this. That's all.
That's why I'm not surprised, and I won't be surprised.
I'm surprised when there isn't something kind of nefarious going
on because there's so much money and the leagues are

(15:09):
all in, like the moral compass is not pointing in
the right direction, it's pointing towards the bank. We'll take
a break back after this.

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Speaker 2 (15:59):
Gerald McCoy ANDFL Network analyst and six time pro bowler,
third overall pick and twenty ten out of Oklahoma. You
can see him all season long NFL Game Day Morning
Sundays at nine am Eastern on NFL Network. Great to
see you again. What advice would you give Jackson Dart
with his style of play?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
First off, good morning, Hey doing Daddy.

Speaker 12 (16:29):
I always love coming back. First off, Good morning. Secondly,
man b there's a fine line between trying to make
a play and dangerous play. You are paid to deliver

(16:55):
the ball with your arm. That's what you're paid to do.
Everything outside of an extra Okay, he has to start
to understand when is the time to run and how
to run. Nobody's telling him not to run because we've
seen running quarterbacks before. But there's a way to do it.

(17:17):
There's a reason that some running quarterbacks don't get hurt,
don't get hit.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
The way it get hit.

Speaker 12 (17:23):
He wants to get as much as he can out
of this run instead of taking what they're giving you.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
When you see.

Speaker 12 (17:33):
Baker Mayfield doing the extra or whatever, trying to get
the extra yard is necessary at the time. Other than that,
you see Lamar Jackson, he make his move, He make
you miss. He get out of bounds when he get down.
You see Jalen Hurts, He get his yards whatever he
get down. Michael Vick, he run un run, he get down.
Cam Newton went through this, and Cam Newton is six

(17:54):
six to sixty and he was taking these hits, and
even Cam started to understand, for you get all that
I'm getting down or I'm getting out of bounds. If
he wants to have a long career, which he should
have because he's extremely talented. He has to understand. Man,
there's times when you have to go the extra a
mound and then there's times where you need to just
get what you can get in there.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Get down.

Speaker 12 (18:16):
He's tried so bad to make a play because of
what's around him and everything that he feels like the
world is on his shoulders. That's going to be a
detriment for him. And you don't want to see the app.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, he can't run like Scataboo does. Who can take contact?
But I would have RG three talk to Jackson Dark
because RG three might be the fastest quarterback who's ever
played that position. But you gotta be you gotta be
smart when you scramble, when you decide you want to
take on a hit, or you know you're not going
to get out of bounds.

Speaker 12 (18:49):
Yeah, my brother key to leave. We're on the sholf
called the gridir. It's about underdog fantasy, and he says
that's all time. If you want to do running back stuff,
you have to deal with running back stuff. So if
you want to go in there and duck your shoulder
and try to run this dude over and all that,

(19:12):
you gotta take what come with it, which is what
comes with being a running back, getting hit all in
your knees. You might take a couple extra hits, your
shoulder's gonna be banged all up and all that. But
that's what running backs do. Running Backs are built to
deal with it. You are a quarterback, don't do running
back stuff, but want to deal with it like a quarterback.
If you're gonna do running back stuff, you gotta deal

(19:34):
with running back stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
I love that he says that because it's true.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
What does Jonathan Taylor have to do to win the
MV pick?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Just be consistent the rest of the year.

Speaker 12 (19:45):
You know what he's doing right now at this level,
it's incredible. And if any year is the year to
go win it, it's this year because there's not any
quarterback that's like, Wow, I'm looking what this guy is doing.
Like last year, what Lamar was doing was unprecedented. What
Josh Allen was able to do to elevate his team,

(20:06):
putting his team on his back to do the half
the games he was having was freaking At that game
he had alt in La versus Rams, freaking incredible. We're
not seeing those types of games from quarterbacks. So if
he's consistently like what he just did yesterday versus the Falcons.

(20:28):
That's an MVP game. So when he wins the award,
they're gonna look back to everybody has that game. That's
his MVP game. Now he has to have these consistent
moments throughout the year. See Saquan any other year would
have been the MVP last year, but look at what
he was up against. Jonathan Taylor's not up against that
this year. So he just has to be consistent what

(20:51):
he's doing. Give us one more of those like type games,
and then consistently play the rest of the year and
they keep winning.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
I think he'll win MV Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I don't think he will because we've created the Offensive
Player of the Year award and that's that's Hey, we're
gonna give it to a running back or a wide
receiver and I think.

Speaker 12 (21:10):
Yeah, well that's what that's Yeah, well that's that's not
right because here's the evidence. And this is me, indie fans.
I don't care how y'all feel. Y'all are fans of
your team, y'all not paying attention. This is the most
valuable player.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (21:28):
Drake May is playing far beyond his years. He's playing great.
He is Matthew Stafford is playing phenomenal, He's playing great. Okay,
but you see yesterday and the last two weeks is
why Jonathan Taylor should be at the top of the
MVP race. When they when Pittsburgh took Jonathan Taylor out

(21:51):
of the game, We've seen what happened to the team.
It was not the same team when Jonathan Taylor did
not take over the game we seen yesterday.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I don't care.

Speaker 12 (22:01):
Everybody likes to look at numbers. What did your eyes
tell you when you're watching this game? Daniel Jones interception,
three fumbles, all of them really should have been taken away.
But that would have been another two to three turnovers
from the quarterback. Okay, so what do we do? Stop
depending on him? Give it to the running back, Give

(22:22):
it to the running back. Give it to the running back.
Give it to the running back. He's the reason that
game was even one. Everybody wants to talk about that
one throw he made. He's the quarterback. We need you
to make a throw. Make a throw, please. Okay, but
who made all the key players who put when they
needed something to happen, they put it on Jonathan Taylor.

(22:43):
That is a running back Why is he running us
to a win versus a team where our quarterback should
be doing it. Granted, I understand the Founders are a
good pass defense. However that's not what we're seen yesday
from Daniel Jones. What we've been seeing so the last
two week should be evidence that that guy is the MVP.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Talking to Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst, you can see
in NFL Game Day morning Sundays at nine am Eastern
on NFL Network. Most disappointing team so far is who? Oh,
most disappointing team?

Speaker 12 (23:23):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Right now, it's a two man race.

Speaker 8 (23:28):
Now.

Speaker 12 (23:28):
Granted one of the player's main player got hurt, but
the Baltimore Ravens, you expected them to be a lot
better at this point, especially defensively, and the Buffalo Bills, right,
but a lot of people had both of those teams
in the super Bowl. Now a lot of people are
wondering if he at a point now now it's a

(23:49):
race of Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Gets in if they can win the division.

Speaker 12 (23:53):
In Buffalo, with how they're looking up and down, how
they looked against Kansas City, it was almost like that
was the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Then you go down to Miami, it's like what the
heck happened?

Speaker 12 (24:03):
So I would say both of those two teams because
of the expectations, Like the Packers, a lot of people
can say, well, the Packers, they are losing these games.
They shouldn't lose. But Packers were a good team, but
they were in the mix. Not people had them in
the super Bowl. You know, a lot of people had
either Buffalo or Baltimore in the Super Bowl, and where

(24:23):
they are right now, that's not what we're seeing.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
So I would say those two.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Teams, yeah, I would probably. I think the Ravens are
going to win their decision.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, yeah, they have it.

Speaker 12 (24:33):
They definitely have a shot because if you look at
the schedule with what they have left, the defense is
playing much more improved and uh well, I mean clearly, yeah, lamar.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, Like you look at Pittsburgh. They gotta play Pittsburgh twice.

Speaker 12 (24:50):
Pittsburg is so you don't know what you're gonna get
from there, Like they play a game, right they did
versus coach and then they'll do what they did last night,
and it's like yeah, so yeah, Pittsburgh and p has
the hardest schedule, so yeah, Baltimore is probably gonna win
the division, so they'll get in. But even so, what
we've seen from them all year, it's like you watching
the Baltimore Ravens, then you watch the Buffalo bill and like,

(25:12):
what the heck is going on?

Speaker 9 (25:14):
You know?

Speaker 12 (25:14):
So I would say those two teams, if I'm looking
at like actual disappointing teams for you expected more.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
You ever land on a quarterback? Like try to land
on a quarterback? Like, no, it just happens. You play
the game is put.

Speaker 12 (25:32):
This is what I say to anybody, and this is
this is what bothers me about these rules is the
people who are making the rules have been on the field,
on the grass when the game is being played, not
just in the game, but practice, uh, workouts combine are

(25:55):
you've seen how fast these athletes move. You've seen how
fast this game is. Defensive linemen are taught you have
two point three seconds to get to the quarterback. That's
what we're taught. That's the clock in our head. So
imagine how fast you have to be moving to get

(26:16):
to the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
There fast.

Speaker 12 (26:17):
It's not like you getting off the ball, you just
running the straight line and going to hitting them.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
In two seconds.

Speaker 12 (26:22):
You got to get past another professional athlete who might
be bigger, stronger than you and has help. So once
I get there, why do you think that we glorify
a person who can get to the quarterback and get
them on the ground the ball in his hand. When
we do that, it's glorified by everybody. It's called a sack.

(26:44):
When you get ten of those, you're put in a
different level. There are seventeen games now. The average game
you're playing offensive snap sixty snaps.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Okay, defensively you might get thirty five to forty.

Speaker 12 (26:58):
So if you accu all of that and you can
get to the quarterback ten times, you're put into the
elite category.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
That's how hard it is to do it.

Speaker 12 (27:09):
So when you're doing that, you're not thinking about, oh,
let me fall on the side.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Of him when I get to him. You're thinking get.

Speaker 12 (27:17):
Him on the ground by any means necessary. So this
oh you can't fall. And I heard Michael Straighthead say
something that I love that. He said, they act like
quarterbacks are not football players too. We're all football players.
Those are football players. And it's just like you get

(27:38):
push this agenda of oh, the game is fair and
it's all about protection and all of we just trying
to No, no, no, no, no, it's about keeping those
guys healthy so we can see points, so we can
make money. Because if we're talking about protection, why isn't
it that.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
A corner.

Speaker 12 (27:59):
Offensive line who on average is six two six three
and up three hundred and twenty pounds up. There used
to be where a corner who was probably five nine
to six feet one eighty to two hundred pounds could
cut an office aligneman who was pulling. Well, now you
can't do that anymore, and we're talking about fair or safe.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Nah, man, come on, stop that.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I like, I like y'all fired up, yeah, because it
don't that's just they man.

Speaker 12 (28:28):
The game is too fast for this for y'all to
still be like, come on, man, thats just that's bad.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Matthew Matthew Stafford a Hall of Famer right now.

Speaker 12 (28:37):
Heck yeah, yeah, forget Matthew Stafford is gonna be one
of the people that forget the All Pros, forget the
Pro Bowls and all that.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
What did your eyes tell you? And what do his
numbers say?

Speaker 12 (28:49):
Matthew Stafford was a victim of arguably the greatest era
of a stream of quarterbacks that came through Matthew Stafford
was drafted in two thousand and nine. He just ran
into a string of quarterbacks, the Drew Brees, the Tom Brady's,
the Aaron Rodgers and right. A couple of years later,
Cam Newton showed up, Matt Ryan was around, Philip Rivers
was around, all that Eli Manning was there. All of

(29:12):
these people kept showing up, kept showing Andrew. Look all
these people kept showing up. And Matthew Stafford is consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent, consistent,
And now look at him. He might be playing the
best football of his career. He's already won.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
The Super Bowl.

Speaker 12 (29:27):
Okay, he left Detroit, came to Rams, won the Super Bowl.
Now he's just sacking it up at this point. Yes,
Matthew Stafford is the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I think sacks are overrated. Okay, I think pressures and
hurries are more important. You can have a sack in
a game and we might say, oh man, you had
a good game. We don't watch the tape, yep, but
but I see pressures and hurries and you might effect

(29:57):
fifteen plays posed to maybe one with that shack. I
think we focus too much on the sacks. And not
enough on the hurries, the pressures that defensive lineman have.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
You know, we call that.

Speaker 12 (30:13):
It's a word for it. Oh, it's called smart. We
call that being smart. You actually watch the game. A
lot of people look at the number. Okay, look at
the number, all right, even when I played, I'm not
gonna give you twelve to fifteen sacks. But go watch
the game. I'm in the backfield most plays, disrupting something.

(30:36):
I'm on the quarterback. He can't just sit back there
and hold the ball. I'm moving them off the off
the spot, all of that. That's what Micah does. Michael,
So everybody's looking at the I'll tell you even better
with Max Crosby. If you go look at Max Crosby's
SATs right now, go look at Max Crosby's stats, and
they're gonna look at other defensive ends stats. You're gonna say, oh,

(31:00):
he's playing better than Max. Go watch the tape. Max
is on the running back, the quarterback, he's in the backfield.
He disrupting, He's doing all of that. That's what makes
Max one of the best in all of football is
because he's always disrupting something. It ain't always who gets
him on the ground. Because in basketball, there's a stack

(31:25):
called an assists. So if I have the ball, because
sometimes I feel like I gotta break this down like
I'm talking to five year olds. If I have the
ball and I give it to my teammate and he
puts it in the basket, that's called an assists.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (31:38):
They even have hockey assists where I passed to him,
he passed to him and then it goes in. Okay,
they have those as well. So if I beat my
man and I make the quarterback, oh oh oh, he
see me. He all over the place, and he running
to my teammate, the teammate gets the stack, who calls
the play?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
See.

Speaker 12 (31:55):
I even teach my son that, I say, son, stop
trying to be so you sought to be making the play.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Go disrupt stuff. You might not always make the play.
So then you know what.

Speaker 12 (32:06):
You've been on the airways a long time. You know
why because you are s M A R T. You
are smart. You know what it's Monday, So I'm gonna
use it even bigger word. You are intelligent, my brother.
You are Thank you for watching the tape.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
That's how you get invited back right there. That's that's
smart on your part. That's well, that's why I always
talk about Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald is like up there
with Reggie White, in my opinion, like what he did
when I When I get pressure up the middle, Now
the quarterback has to go right or left, just like
you did. I'm gonna. I think those guys are more

(32:44):
valuable because they disrupt. They get the quarterback off his spot.
If you're a great you know, edge rusher on the right,
I just go the other way up the middle. You know,
now I've gotten you off your spot and I want
Aaron was always great.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
You don't know example of that. So we always try
and get pressure up the middle.

Speaker 12 (33:03):
Tom Brady he hated any quarterback hates pressure in their
face because that's their window. A great example of why
you need a guy in the middle is yesterday when
the Falcons were playing the Coats. The edge guys were
getting pressure, but Daniel Jones wasn't getting sacked because the
d tackles weren't getting pressured. They were sitting at the
line of scrimmage. So it doesn't matter if these guys

(33:24):
are right here. The quarterback is talked to, whether he
is a launch point at seven yards. When I say
launch point, that's where his footsteps and he moves back
up into the pocket. That's his launch point. So when
we used to rush, we used to when people be
thinking dhas the linemen were just out there going. Well,
some of us are, but I wasn't. So you got
to know the launch point. Some people's lunch point is

(33:45):
at nine yards, some people's launch points at ten. You
got to know the launch point because you got to
know when the counterback. So if the edge just come
off the edge and they're just running around, which you
talk never to run around the quarterback, he's just going
to step up into the The old line has talked
to build a pocket for him. If there's no pressure
up the middle, then he could step up in the
pocket and make it throat. So that's why you need

(34:07):
pressure up the middle. That's why you gotta have a
guy in the middle of your defense. That's why when
Warren sat was doing what he was doing at the undertackle,
it changed everything. Tony Dungey said, I need somebody in
the middle of my defense that can make everything go,
and that's what Sap was, and then everybody's just you know, copycatted.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
It great to talk to you. Thanks you always. Huh, Yes, sir,
I appreciate you. That so Gerald McCoy, NFL network analyst.
Very smart guy by the way, six time pro bowler.
We'll take a break. We will give you our best
and worst to the weekend right after this.

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Speaker 2 (34:53):
Oh, look, who's joining us. Seaton's on the road. Let's okay,
let's guess where he left yes esterday afternoon, Todd, where
do you think Seaton is?

Speaker 6 (35:05):
He's somewhere west of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
West of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Okay, Marvin, he's in Maryland, Dylan, Virginia.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
On the way to Indy.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
I'm gonna go Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I'm going West Virginia. Well, I'll give you a clue.

Speaker 8 (35:26):
Some people call this the birthplace of the dual threat quarterback,
the guy named Major Harris.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Maybe you've heard of West Virginia.

Speaker 13 (35:34):
Yeah, this is a clue. Oh okay, alright, hey, yeah,
for the first time in almost thirty years, believe it
or not, I'm back in Morgantown, West Virginia, and it's awesome,
it's beautiful, gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Did you let officials know you were coming back?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
You know, I didn't.

Speaker 8 (35:52):
I think that may have been a wise move. I
didn't notice that the dorm that I lived in, Arnold
Hall is no longer a dorm, so they might be
erasing any.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
On this campus. Okay, so West Virginia. And then you
got to get to Indianapolis by tomorrow morning.

Speaker 8 (36:08):
Yeah, I'll get to Indianapolis tonight. Uh, and then by
h at eight o'clock, I'll be at a makeo there.
You go to Danpatrick dot com for the uh the address,
although the addresses are there, and then uh, yeah, tomorrow
I'll get to Indianapolis tonight. I'll be in Saint Louis
tomorrow night and yeah, we'll keep it rolling.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
And then Denver and then Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Uh. Do you want to give us your best and
worst of the weekend?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Dude? Best of the weekend? Are the Patriots for real?

Speaker 11 (36:35):
Or what?

Speaker 8 (36:36):
Let's go that's a real win, that's a real win.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Traveyt.

Speaker 8 (36:41):
Henderson is a thing. I think he's he's a real dealer.
Worst of the weekend. Uh, well, I'll address that perhaps
when I see you in person. The Makeovan is fine,
it's fine. We just it's a good the irony of
me driving a Makeo van right now. Maybe we'll put
them to the test and see how good they are

(37:01):
at their job.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
What did you hit?

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well, it is not so must hit.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
It's more more of a screat situation.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
But I hear they're very good at buffing those right out.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I won't be able to notice. We'll be all right, okay,
all right, just to scratch that's it, yeah, ash wound.
All right, we'll we'll talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
All right.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
God speed, that's uh, but not too fast in the
fast lane, right, tod, Yes, not too fast. You can't
say when the police goes, hey, do you know how
fast you were going? And if you say God's speed,
you should be able to get off with that, right.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
I don't think i'd appreciate that answer.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
How about we give our best and worst of the weekend?

Speaker 14 (37:44):
Ton best of the weekend. I've made them the worst
of the weekend a number of times in the past.
I'm going to give it to Wisconsin. They snap a
six game losing streak, get the victory in Madison over
number twenty three Washington thirteen ten. Let's go Badgers. Let's
give them a little love.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Finally, I think they got a vote of confidence. Luke
Fickle did, and they'll be there. He's coming back next year.

Speaker 14 (38:02):
Jill and Worst of the weekend on what I'd like
to call almost Sadly, I'm giving it to Penn State,
Iowa and Auburn for almost but not quite being able
to close things out against Indiana, Oregon and Vandy respectively.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Dylan, all right, Dann, My best is my Hawaii Rainbow
Warriors dominates San Diego State thirty eight to six in
the late slot, seven and three in the season and
most importantly seven too and one against the spread this year.
And my worst, Dan, my Phoenix Rising lose one nothing
to FC Tulsa in the USL Western Conference semifinals.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh, you sit in Seaton's chair and all of a sudden,
you're talking soccer, big fan, and it's one nil, not
one nothing, one All right? I'm learning, Yeah, Marvin.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
Best of the weekend. The best player in college football
Jerry Meyers Smith from Ohio State. Ten receptions, one hundred
and thirty seven yards touchdown. He's the best. He's probably
not gonna win the Heisman, but he's the best player
in the game.

Speaker 9 (38:52):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
Worst of the weekend my Virginia Cavaliers. They were going, they.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Were going all the way, they were going play and.

Speaker 6 (39:00):
They lost the Wake Force and now they're probably not
going to make the college football playoffs as a one seed.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Paul.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
I also have Wisconsin in that slop thirteen to ten
over Washington. The leading passer for Wisconsin, punter Sean West,
won for one twenty four yards. They threw for forty
eight yards.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
But it's a win.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
I'm gonna go with USC as my other best of
the weekend. Running Back King Miller and wide receiver Makai
Lemon really tore up Northwestern and us season. This weird
position right now. They didn't have some big games early,
not a great out of conference schedule, but they finished
with Iowa, Oregon UCLA and they're seven and two. They
CUSP CUSP team.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
It still feels like there's some unrest there with Lincoln Riley.
It just feels awkward, And I had this feeling with
Brian Kelly at LSU. It just doesn't feel secure. Yeah, Paul, USC.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Has to schedule tougher out of conference games and get
credit for them even playing in them, because they're record
right now is anchored down by the lack of big
games early.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, and they want to get Notre Dame off the schedule.
We'll talk some college football with Rick Neuheisel, and I'll
tell him what I was told over the weekend. Get
ready for a college coaching carousel offseason like we've never
seen before. We've already had that during the season, but
people maybe leaving good jobs, slash great jobs to take

(40:28):
another job, or two or three of those type situations.
Two hours in the books already this Monday. One more
to go. More phone calls as well, eight seven to
seven to three DP show Todd's here, Dylan's in for
seedon Marv Paul Years truly in the back room guys
as well. Final hour after this
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