September 1, 2026 • 40 mins
Dan talks to Michigan HC Kyle Whittingham about their rivalry with Ohio State and the prospect of allowing players to return to college sports after playing in NFL preseason games. Plus, former DE Kyle Long drops by to weigh in on the latest CTE findings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Hour two on this Tuesday. I'm over there
talking to Paulie. We're just chopping it up a little bit.
And all of a sudden I go, oh, I think
that's my cue.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We're just bro-ing out.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm supposed to be in my chair. Kyle Whittingham, Michigan
head football coach. He will join us coming up in
a little bit. Luke Kuechly, Hall of Famer, will stop
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for Hour 2. Let's clean up Hour 1, Dylan. By
the way, Todd is back. Incredible. This is really an incredible,
one of the great comebacks of all time. And he
is here after the surgery. It's kind of a Willis
Reed coming out of the locker room in 1970, leading
the Knicks to a title. Willis Reed only scored four
(01:18):
points in that game, but still came out of the
tunnel and, oh my goodness, Didn't think he would make it.
But Todd, after surgery, life-threatening surgery, is here today. Dylan
in the back row. Marv up front with Paul Ears
truly and the backroom guys as well. All right, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, I got bad news for you, Dan. According to 72%
of people, they think Todd just had a procedure.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I don't know. He put him under. When there's an
anesthesia involved, Todd actually thought that was the name of
the nurse.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Wait, is your last name Estesia?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I thought it was Annabelle Estesia.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Anna for short. Ooh, Anna Estesia.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Hi, Anna. How are you? Todd did Google the nurse
who took care of him, by the way. I just
wanted to say thank you for, you know, because I
was nervous.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You didn't want to thank the doctor who actually did
the surgery on you.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Yeah, he's just there doing his part.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Todd's going to consider a malpractice lawsuit just to talk
to her again.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
What do we have, Dylan?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Do you think that's the first Google of a nurse ever?
Because I'm sure doctors get Googled all the time. That
genuinely might be the first instance.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Not by Todd, I don't think. By someone else. There
was an assistant. She wasn't a nurse, but she worked
with the doctor who gave me the replacement knee. And
when she was in the room, you knew she was
in the room. But I remember when she was taking
out my surgery, she goes, I love doing this. She's
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taking out the stitches. I'm like, oh, all right. You
love doing this.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
877-3DP-SHOW. Email address, dp at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow.
The head coach at Michigan, Kyle Winningham. Still sounds strange
to say that, coach, after all those years at Utah.
Do you have any Utah gear left over?
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Uh, there's probably some back in Utah somewhere in my
house back there, but it would take me a minute
to locate it.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So how prepared are you for this moment?
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Uh, well, shoot as prepared as we could possibly be.
I mean, we got, uh, three more days of practice.
We certainly need every one of them, but, uh, we've
had a really good fall camp, made a ton of
progress and, uh, eager to play, uh, somebody else, you know,
we've been beating on ourselves for eight months now. And
so it's, It's going to be good to find out
what we got on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But the expectation level– now, Utah wanted you to win.
Michigan wants you to win. Do you feel any different
with the expectations from the fans of, you know, what
they're hoping for?
Speaker 7 (03:58):
No, I don't believe so. I mean, you know, in
both places, you're hoping for conference championships and then whatever
you can accomplish beyond that. But, you know, I've said
it before. It doesn't matter what level you're coaching at.
High school– college, NFL, I mean, wherever you are, you're
all in. And if you're all in and you're, and you've, uh,
you know, given it everything you got, then you have
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the same, uh, burning desire to win as, uh, as
anybody else.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Why did you feel the need to clarify your comments
about Ohio state?
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Well, I didn't feel the need to clarify. They, they
were asked about it. You know, people ask about it
and I, uh, you know, just answer questions.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
So from the first comments to the second, um, People
want to hear you say you hate Ohio State, right?
Speaker 7 (04:47):
I guess that's what they want. I don't know. I
want to beat them as bad as anybody, probably worse.
How about this? I guess we could hate them all
one day a year. How about that?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, but I said, and I grew up in Ohio,
I said, give him a break. You can know about
this rivalry. It'd be like if somebody went and said, oh,
you're at Utah, you got to hate BYU, and you
just came there. You're like, all right, let me live
this first a little bit here. So I don't know
if there's a tutorial on how to strongly dislike a team.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Yeah, to me, it's got to happen organically. And it's
tough to manufacture that. And so But just the competitive
nature of the game. I mean, it's the rivalry game
in the, you know, the premier rivalry game in the country.
And it, you know, that's, you know, everybody knows that
I'm fully aware of that. And by no means was
I'm trying to downplay the game and the game is huge.
(05:43):
I mean, it's a huge game year in and year out.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
All you got to do is win. You can hate them.
And if you don't beat them, nobody's going to give
you credit for, well, at least you hate them, coach.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Exactly. Good point. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Help me understand where you stood with NFL players coming
back to college. I know that, you know, all the
conferences are kind of in sync on this, but did
you ever think we'd get to a situation like this
where somebody leaves college, goes to the pros, puts on
a uniform or two, and then comes back?
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Did not foresee that at all. And that's something that, but,
but any, you know, in this day and age, anything
that happens in college football shouldn't come as a surprise.
I mean, we're so all over the, we're so all
over the place with everything that, that I guess anything's possible.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Okay. How did we get here with just no, there's
no singular voice. There's no lifeguard on duty in the
deep end here, coach.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
And that's, that's the problem. I mean, you look at
the NFL, which is in my opinion, the best-run sports
organization in the world, and you've got a great structure
and a commissioner that lays down the law. And if
you cross that line, you pay severe penalties. And I
think that's what we've got to get to in college football.
(07:00):
We've got to get to some sort of NFL minor
league model. I've said that many, many times. But why
wouldn't you pattern yourself after the best to ever do it?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Kyle Whittingham, Michigan, head football coach, beginning the season this Saturday,
Western Michigan. Next Saturday, you welcome in Oklahoma to Ann Arbor.
There was a story in the Salt Lake Tribune a
couple of days ago. Some former players accused you and
your staff of mishandling injuries. I want to give you
a chance to address this.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Never in my career have I ever tried to sway, influence,
influence Whatever the word is, our medical staff, wherever I've been,
we listen to the medical staff. If they say a
player's available, we go with that. And if they say
he's not available, we go with that. So I'm not
sure where this came from or just how it ever materialized,
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but never in my career have we ever crossed the
line of trying to override a medical decision by our
medical staff.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Could you have stayed at Utah if you wanted to?
Speaker 7 (08:07):
I believe that's probably would have been in the cards.
I think, I think if it really pushed came to
shove and, you know, I had two years left on
my contract and, and, uh, but, uh, you know, I've
always been the type of guy, don't worry about your welcome.
And I felt like that, that was starting to happen. And, and, uh,
you know, overstaying your, your welcome is something that, uh,
(08:29):
I had made a, uh, you know, a conscious decision
not to do several years ago. And when I, And
you just don't want to stay somewhere too long. Maybe
I did stay too long as I was. I don't know.
But I'm grateful for the situation I'm in now and
couldn't be happier with what's going on here in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Felt like mutual parting. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 7 (08:52):
That's probably on some people's part back there. Yeah, I'd
say depending who you talk to.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Do you know how good your team can be right now?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
That's a good question. I don't know if anyone in
the country knows how good their team can be because even,
you know, you're playing against each other. And if you
struggle moving the ball, is it because you're lousy on
offense or is it because your defense is outstanding and
vice versa? And so you never really get a good
gauge completely until you line up and play somebody, but
you can certainly see talent and positions that really are,
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you know, special. And so I think you gotta, you
got somewhat of an idea, but you don't know for
sure until you line up and get a, Get someone
to play against and get a barometer to measure yourself against.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What's the coolest thing in your office?
Speaker 7 (09:39):
The coolest thing in my office? A lot of pictures
of my grandkids. They're around here somewhere. Oh, somebody gave
me this. Oh, I can't show it to you. There's
a really cool M that lights up that's got lightning
bolts throughout it. Really cool. It's a good size. You
can change the colors and all that stuff. So, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Anything mean you want to say?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Not as cool stuff as you got.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I do have some great stuff in here. I think
the one, do I have a Michigan helmet in here?
I got all kinds of helmets in here. Do I?
We don't have one. I don't think I have one.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Let's get you one. We'll get you one.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh, no, no, no. No, no. Hold on.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Hold on.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Coach, we'll just keep each other company.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
Yeah, okay. Yes.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
There you go, Dan.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I don't have an Ohio State helmet in here.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
No, that's good news.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I like to hear that. And I think this came from,
who was the wide receiver who played for the Giants?
Imani Toomer? Yes. I think Imani Toomer gave me his
helmet here, Coach. I think it's a keeper.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's autographed here.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
That's the old, that's the old school bike helmet.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah. And then you got the stickers here.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Uh, we still have that tradition.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
What did the, uh, stickers mean?
Speaker 7 (10:58):
If I, uh, all different things, you know, some of
the area code of the player, uh, or he's from, uh,
big wins, uh, big plays in games. I mean, it's
got all kinds of different things on those stickers.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
What if I go to class? Do I get a sticker?
Like little things like that. That used to matter back
in our day.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Well, it still matters.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
You know, that matters to me anyways. And, you know,
graduating players is number one on the list and winning
games is number two. And that's, that's how I've always functioned.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Do you want to say anything mean about Ryan day
before we say goodbye?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Say anything mean? No, we'll see him. We'll see him
the last game of the season. How about that?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Wow, that's bulletin board material right there.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Don't bait me.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Good to talk to you. Good luck this weekend.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Okay, man. Thank you. Thank you, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's Kyle Whittingham. Yeah, I don't have an Ohio State helmet,
but this is a real helmet. This is one of
those heavy suckers. I could walk around and try to
convince people I played for Michigan, just like that guy
with the 49ers. Can you imagine a guy is on
the beach running pass patterns with his Niners helmet on,
(12:08):
trying to convince the ladies that he played for the Niners.
And he scammed these women out of over a million dollars.
They thought that he was a professional football player. Yes, Molly.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Ayuk's been scamming the Niners for two years, so this
guy is not even close.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Wow. Yeah, the story that I saw, Salt Lake Tribune,
I know it's a big deal, local. I have to
ask just to have Coach on record of talking about
it or having him on and then not at least
asking him about it. But it had to do with
a handful of players who it felt like they were
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saying Kyle was old school and that he wanted you
to play through injuries or maybe force players to play
through injuries. And once again, I'm paraphrasing. I read the
article this morning and felt the need that I should
at least ask him. And when I said the need
to clarify his comments about Ohio state, he initially said
something about Ohio state and it was kind of lukewarm
(13:11):
for the Michigan fans. Like, wait a minute, you got
to hate Ohio state. Well, he just got there. And
if he came in on fire and that he hated
Ohio state, then I don't know. You might sound like
Brian Kelly at LSU. No, just like, no, no, you know,
I know the significance of the game. Um, And believe me,
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once we get to that point, I'll be ready to go. Like,
you know, you can't wait to beat him. You can
hate him. I'd rather you beat him. You could even say, look,
I respect Ohio State and Ryan Day. Yeah, and I'm
glad we beat them again. If I'm a Michigan fan,
I'm fine with that. I don't want the guy. Brady
Hoke may have hated Ohio State. Did he beat him?
(13:55):
He didn't even have his headset plugged in. Poor Brady.
He was a nice guy. How did I get that
comment about him saying, not good? Did I say something
about how do you like your chances against Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I think it was a similar question. How do you
feel about your team this year? And he was like, not.
And he crossed himself up and he said, good.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
We'll deep dive it.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Yeah, I forget.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I thought it had something to do with Ohio State,
and he said, not good. That's fun. Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I didn't realize that that's where that came from.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, Brady Hoke. Yeah, see if we can find that.
By the way, Labor Day weekend on NBC, you got baseball.
You got a doubleheader. It'll be Braves-Phillies Sunday, Twins-White Sox. Monday, Cardinals-Giants.
Labor Day weekend on NBC and Peacock. All right, we'll
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Speaker 3 (15:54):
I think we found the origin of Brady Hoke, the
former Michigan head coach, that he gave us this.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Not good.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I think Paulie said that we have a fan who
is kind of like the ombudsman, that he knows everything
that happened on the show. And he told Paulie during
the commercial break, I asked Brady Hoke how he felt
about Urban Meyer going to Ohio State when he was
leaving Florida and went to Ohio State. And that's when
Brady Hoke said, Not good. Pretty spot on. It's so,
(16:32):
it's just an honest answer. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Uh, not good.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Uh, We'll get phone calls coming up. Luke Keekly, Hall
of Famer, will join us coming up next hour. He's
Kyle Long, CBS Sports, NFL Today studio analyst. Big tough
guy here. Good to see you again. How would you
have done against your dad if you had to block
your dad in his prime?
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Oh, boy, I would have brought help. That's the good
thing about playing offensive line. I would have taken my licks, though.
He was pretty violent with his hands. You've got to
be aware of the get-off. You've got to be aware
of the one-two club rip inside, I would imagine, is
on the menu. And then that Reggie White patented hump
move is probably the main course.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
When did you, I guess, realize you could take your dad? Like,
if you're wrestling, there had to be... I'm still waiting, Dan.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Really?
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I'm still waiting. You know, it's funny.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
There's that inverse relationship of the ability to whip your
dad's ass and then your willingness or want to whip
his ass. It's like, as you get older, you could,
but it's just like, why would I do that? Look at,
he's making, he's making a blueberry shake for my, my grand,
my daughter. Like, you know, why would I want to
get him now?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But I don't know. It's like you play one-on-one with
your dad playing basketball.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
I think he was aware probably when I was 16, um,
that I could do some things physically that might've put
him in jeopardy at the time.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
No, I don't know. I couldn't do the math on
how old he was, but you know.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Probably around 16, 17 is when I started to realize
and my older brother, Chris started to keep his distance.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Probably.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'll bet the fights though. I mean, your mom had
to go, I got to replace that end table or
that chair, that couch.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
Yeah, she was dealing with riot control, crowd control, far
before it became in vogue in American society.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
All right, let me give you the full introduction. First
round pick, 20th overall pick by the Bears, joining us
on behalf of GenerationFine.com. We'll talk about that because I
love what you're doing with this. At this point in
the preseason, do you know what kind of team you
had going into week one when you were playing?
Speaker 8 (18:53):
I think that the good things about your roster are
always you have a higher expectation for, and the bad
things you say, this is going to be our Achilles,
it's going to kill us. And then you end up
somewhere in the middle. I mean, it always ends up
being a one score game, Dan. It's like, can you
get the third and one conversion? That's really what it
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comes down to. And I think You know, if I
look at the Bears, for example, people are really keen
on the Bears offense. And Ben Johnson says he's going
to set an NFL record for points per game.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And that's all well and good.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
But he knows that has to be the case because
they've got injuries on the back end. They've got question
marks up front. They've got guys getting paid a lot
of money that haven't produced the way that they expect.
And Bears fans are hoping that this thing lands somewhere
in the middle.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, and trying to handicap the NFC North. Now, I
know Green Bay's got some issues. Certainly, Josh Jacobs out.
Micah Parsons not back for a little while there. The
Vikings defense is going to keep them in games, it
feels like. And then you've got the Lions that we
kind of forgot about. So if you were going to
go one through four.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
If I were to go one through four, I would
say the two teams holding hands at the top of
the totem poles, the Packers and the Bears. And I
think the Lions are right there with a hand on
one of their ankles. And who the hell knows who
the Vikings are going to be? To your point, that
defense can carry a football team. Kevin O'Connell is a
brilliant coach. And if Kyler Murray can be Kyler Murray,
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there's a lot of people who are going to be
in trouble. There's a lot of people in Vegas who
are either going to look like brilliant In fact, I
think that if Kyler Murray can figure out how to
press the circle button, which is Justin Jefferson on his
Xbox controller, he's going to find great success in that division.
And it's going to be close games. And who can
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guard who in a two-minute? Really, that's who it comes
down to.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I've asked former offensive linemen, even current ones, blocking for
a scrambler, blocking for a passing quarterback. what would you
have preferred?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Well, it really does depend.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
So like if I got a guy like, let's say
I'm blocking for Patrick Mahomes, you understand what the play
is drawn up to be and you understand where the
launch point is, where he's going to throw it from
and what the action is leading up to it, what
we're trying to influence the defense to do.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
What you can.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Account for is the great things that are going to
happen after that three second timer goes off when Patrick
goes Picasso on the defense. There are luxuries to having
guys like that because they can get out of harm's
way on their own. Now, the ask becomes greater for
an offensive lineman because your clock goes from four seconds
to maybe eight seconds if you're running around there behind
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the line of scrimmage. You get a guy who's a
pocket passer, your job becomes very easy. If I blocked
for Matt Ryan, easy in terms of predictability, Dan. None
of it's easy, but the ball's out. The ball is out.
Go watch the mic'd ups of these defensive linemen rushing
against these statuesque pocket passers where the ball is out.
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They are frustrated beyond belief because there is no move
that they can do that wins.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
How would you test Aaron Donald now coming back after
a couple of years?
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Well, I would lean heavily on double teaming in the
run game and, and reminding him of what kind of
game he's stepping back into. Uh, And I'm not saying
in any way that Aaron is not going to come
back and dominate. But if I'm an OC, I'm going
to put four hands on him, two helmets, and a
(22:36):
couple of thigh boards. And we're going to run the
football with that game plan. And then when we have
to throw the football, you continue to give him that action.
You do not let him take the fight to the
offensive line. He is as dominant in a passing situation
as there's ever been.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
What did it feel like trying to block him?
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Well, luckily in the one year that we played the Rams,
I played tackle. It felt like blocking a fire hydrant,
quite honestly. So I was coming down on the double team,
trying to find a spot in his hip area while
my guard was praying and trying to get hands on him.
And this was young Aaron Donald. And I do remember
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he gave us fits. And this was before he was A.D.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
99.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
But I knew I had inside intel from that Rams
locker room, my brother, that they had drafted a future
Hall of Famer like his first week in camp. Chris
was like, this guy is unbelievable. So when I was
playing him. He was finding his way through the cracks.
He was unbelievable at finding... He was like water. He
could get in between anything. And he would look at
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you after the play. He looked at me one time
and he said, every time you look down at me pre-snap,
I know it's a double team. And I was like,
you're not supposed to help me, bro. You're 20 years
old and you're 5'11.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Go back to the little that I know.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
How did he fall where he fell to?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think for whatever reason....
Speaker 8 (24:07):
We were at the end of the stage of the
phase where size mattered, right? Like you have to fit
a certain archetype. And Aaron Donald is an outlier, but
it also opens the door for plenty of guys who
are 5'11, 250, to go terrorize guards on third down.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It's like.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
The pitcher who threw Aroldis Chapman. There was a place
for him. He would come in and he would throw
103 and guys wouldn't know what to do with it.
It's the same impact that one of these rush tackles
can have on a guard. And I think about a
guy like Willie Lampkin, who was a center out of
University of North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
He's 5'10, DP, 5'10, 290 pounds, but.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
He is all.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Ass kick and grit okay and he's on the Eagles
roster and he has been choking these Giants out all
summer long that he's a prime example of like you
let a guy like that in the club now you
got to let all the 5'11 gangsters in the club.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Okay uh do you miss hitting people um I.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
Miss high-fiving my teammates. You know, like I just miss
being around the guys. This version of me does not
like miss hitting people. I loved it when I was
that age because I was good at it. But now
the things that I miss is, you know, sitting next
to Matt Forte and eating pancakes and getting laughed at
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for 10 minutes and Going to the training room and,
you know, John Fox coming in and telling us a
ridiculous story about his boating adventure that weekend or, you know,
hanging out with the equipment guys and just hearing about
the debauchery that happens in a 19-year-old's life in Chicago.
Tell me what you're doing with Generation Fine. Generation Fine. Okay,
(25:57):
so this is a fantastic thing. And like Size Matters
going out the window, I think Mental Health Mattering is
coming into the house now because– Fine doesn't have to
be a finish line. So many times you get asked
how you're doing.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
You say, I'm good. I'm fine.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
But fine's not the finish line. We can be way
better than that. And there's ways to get there.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
There's tools, resources, information.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
You can visit generation-fine.com and you can find out why
I'm partnered with Johnson & Johnson and why this is
so important to me. Because for so long, I thought
that the things that I was feeling and for a
lack of a better term, depression at times would creep
into my life as an athlete, as a man, as
a father, as a husband. Um, and I didn't know
(26:39):
what to do with the way that I was feeling. Um,
there are resources, tools, you're not alone. There's so many
more guys that you know, that are dealing with something silently.
I call it the silent battle. Um, and you know,
we're here, we're waiting. It's like, you know, It's like
that angel in the movies where you see him in
a couple scenes and you're like, I've seen that person.
(27:00):
And then they show up at the end and they
save the day. If you just stop and talk to
that person when you saw him the first time and
that person is that conversation about mental health and there's
more people there to share your experience and their experience
with you.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Why do players, did players feel the need to hide this?
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Well, I think I have a unique perspective on this
growing up in a football house and a football a
gladiatorial football house you know one that was football proper
okay like six weeks training camp two a day it's
full pad type shit excuse my language um and i
understood that what you show is what they know and
(27:41):
what they know could get you killed and i'm i'm
in the camp now of Why not work on your
mental health like you work on your front squat, like
you work on your hamstring stretches, like you work on
your cardio? It can be a weapon for you in
the best way possible. It's a light inside of you,
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and you can make it brighter if you work on it,
if you recognize what you're going through.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, I went through a dark period. I had an
autoimmune that was affecting me and I didn't want to
get out of bed. And my wife said, why don't
you share this on your show? Because if you share it,
then maybe a light goes on with somebody. He's willing
to talk about that. And it was painful to reveal that,
(28:28):
that you go into that shell where you just don't
want to do anything. And so, I mean, it took
a long time for me to get through it, but
I can certainly empathize with NFL players. You're in your
30s or 40s. And we've seen what happens with not
only depression, but everything else with CTE. And I mean,
(28:50):
there's a there's a whole melting pot here of stuff
that you you don't even know what's on the horizon.
So I do appreciate you sharing this because I do
think it's really important that we do talk about this
instead of because you know what? When I was growing up, Kyle,
it was, oh, he's got mental illness. Like if you
(29:10):
had depression, there was something mentally wrong with you. Therefore,
you never said anything to anybody.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
Yeah, and it's really brave of you, and I appreciate
you speaking up on that. And is this not just
the damnedest thing? What a microcosm of what Generation Fine
is all about.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It's like, reach out, dude.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
There's a network of people that are, you know, whatever
word you want to put in there.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
And I really relate with your couldn't get out of bed.
And I've been there before.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
When I dealt with injury and when I dealt with
the stress and rigors of playing the National Football League,
there have been moments where I have been literally stuck
in place and I need somebody to come physically remove me.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And I know there's others out there.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
And dude, if that's you listening on the other end
and you feel in any way that like making your
life better, take a visit to generation-fine.com.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Good luck this season with the football with CBS. Big,
big promotion there, moving up the ladder.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Yeah, having fun. We got them fooled another year, Dan.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
My best to your father. And thanks again, Kyle.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, thanks a lot. See you guys soon.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's Kyle Long, CBS. He's part of the NFL Today
studio analyst and former Bears offensive lineman. It's Generation Fine.
Take a break. We've got phone calls coming up. Luke Keekly,
who retired early in the NFL. Luke played eight years,
I think, and went through concussions. Kyle played eight years.
(30:47):
I think that when I see players, and it's weird
to say this, the better you are, the more susceptible
you are for CTE because you're going to keep playing,
keep playing, three more years, Aaron Donald coming back. And
I understand it, that if you say to those players,
would you do it differently? Most of them would say no,
(31:09):
because I provided for my family. And that's where when
somebody comes back, like Aaron Donald, I can only think,
he gets hit every single play, or he's hitting somebody
every single play. And you just had that study that
came out that talked about the number of players that
they examined. in a 10-year period, that it would be
(31:31):
an epidemic level in any other walk of life. We
don't refer to that in the NFL. So I'm very
cognizant of it, very empathetic, sympathetic. And when somebody is
willing to talk about depression, and if we can have
them on the show, then I hope that I'm helping
(31:53):
you on the other end. But, you know, 20 years ago,
I may not have been able to grasp this or
the number of sponsors who would be taking up this
crusade or the players willing to come forward. And I
know Kyle has talked about this, and I appreciate that.
We'll take a break. Phone calls coming up. Update our
(32:14):
poll results. We're back after this.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
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Speaker 3 (32:28):
Big night tonight at my house. Really, really exciting. You
guys want to guess what's going on?
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You're saying by your family before football season?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
No.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
I'm doing that.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
No, I did that before, a while ago, when the
preseason started. Todd, do you have any idea? Big night
at my house.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Some kind of post-wedding get-together with everybody in the house?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Another celebration?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Okay, you're at least on the topic of what's going
to be the big night about. Yes, Marvin?
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Your wife, or your wife, your daughter and new son-in-law
are coming back to your house.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
No.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
No.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No? Dylan?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
You guys are having tacos for dinner.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Well, it is Tuesday. We are going to open up
the envelope of how much the wedding cost us. Because
my wife said when we checked out of the hotel,
she said to the person behind the counter, just put
(33:37):
it in an envelope and seal it up. And they said,
you don't want to check the charges? And my wife goes, nope,
just seal the envelope. We'll open it up at a
later date.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I've had a wedding before, and I only saw some
of the bills, but I thought most of it was
scheduled and prepaid beforehand. But are you talking ancillary things?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Everything that's on the bill.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Do you have an idea?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
No. You know what?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I just didn't, I didn't want it to ruin my day.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Where are you going? Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
How much that costs. Now I know there's certain things
we had a budget. We said to my daughter, you know, here,
here's your budget. If you go over this, then you
take the money out of your inheritance. Cause I thought
we want to let them get their inheritance before we die.
So we know what you're going to do with your inheritance.
(34:29):
I know dark, but yes, I was like, let, let
her understand how much these things are costing. And, uh,
She still blew through the stop sign. But I said, okay,
but you're going to spend your money after we give
you a certain amount. We're opening up the envelope. The envelope, please.
(34:50):
That's what we're opening up. And big night tonight. Because
my wife said, what do you want to drink? And
I said, everything. Everything, hon. How about a couple of
beers and then maybe some tequila?
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We don't want to get into exact numbers, but if
we were ballparking it, would it be like a year
at a high-end college?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I don't even want to hint at what I think
it could be. It's far more than one year at USC.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Got it.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Far more than one year of college anywhere.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
So is this a bad time to ask for my inheritance?
You said four kids, four Danettes?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah. Because, you know, when people say, oh, you know,
you're going to leave some money to your kids. And
I wanted to see what they would do when they
get to a certain age. And if they're not married,
then they can get their inheritance. If you're married, then
you can get your inheritance. And I said, well, why
don't we see what they're going to do with it
(35:53):
instead of, you know, I'm gone. I don't know what's
going on. So, yeah, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
You're not worried they could fake it for, you know,
until you guys do pass and then just really turn
the jets on. Then that's probably what I would do.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
If they want to. I mean, it's up to them.
I just said, you know, just be smart. You know,
this is it. Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I saw an interview with the great actress, comedian, Julie Louis-Dreyfus,
and she grew up rich, like rich, rich. And she said,
I had a lot of rich friends and they went
two ways. Do nothing or know that you could do
anything because you got a place to live and a
car and a backup.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Plan but if you're married or you get to 35
i'm assuming you already have if we've done our job
as parents then we've taught you correctly of how to
live be you know good worker oh you know all
of those things it's not like i think you get
to 35 and you're gonna go let's go crazy um
(36:51):
Or you get married and you go, well, let's spend lavishly. Yes, Paul?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I don't know a lot about Dylan's family, but Dylan
kind of seems like a guy who's waiting around for
his inheritance.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
No offense.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I only wish that were the case. I wouldn't be here.
I'd be doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Really? You would leave?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
No, no, I wouldn't leave. I'm saying, like, if I
knew in five years there was a substantial sum of
money coming my way, I'd be coasting to 35.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I think you've been.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
More than now.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
This isn't hard work.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
This is not coasting?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You are a coaster.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I've been known to coast.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
That sounds like a slacker, but you're a coaster.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
It feels like we just came up with a new term. Like, yeah,
trust fund kid, you're a coaster.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Aren't you?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
It sounds nicer than slacker.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
It does.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
And it actually implies you're doing less.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I know Todd... isn't sitting on any inheritance from his mom.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
No, I, I didn't. I think it, it cost me
money when, uh, my dad died and my mom died.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
There wasn't anything there. I remember going, man, I don't
think mom has any, my dad died at 54. And
I'm thinking, I wonder, Does he have an inheritance? I
found out quickly he did not. We had to pay money.
It's like, we got to pay for a headstone here.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Wait, what? Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
They hit you with the old inheritance Uno reverse card
late in the game.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
And even my wife, her dad owned a pizzeria in
lower Manhattan. And I thought, all right, maybe he's got
some money.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Nope, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Didn't have any money. But, you know, if you're not
expecting it, you know, it's not like you're disappointed. It's
when you go, man, I think dad was really raking
it in. And all of a sudden you find out, no, no,
he wasn't. He was not. Marvin, I know you don't
have a treasure trove at the end of the rainbow. No, but.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
The absentee dad, he left me something.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I know when you said it and I was like,
good for you. You deserve far more than that, but
at least you got something from it.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
I mean, wait, he waited until I became somebody. I
was like, man, I don't need it. I'll take it.
But I was like, what about when I needed it?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
When my dad passed away, we got a little money
for college funds. There was like this lawsuit and stuff.
And I remember it was like a decent amount of dough.
I didn't know anything about money. But I couldn't get
in any colleges that I could use that level of
college fund for. I couldn't get into Berkeley or USC
or Harvard.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, there's reasons why you couldn't.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Believe me.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I had the money, not the ability.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Well, Paul, did that then just become spendable cash for you?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'd be proud of myself.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I didn't blow it.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I went to Southern Illinois University because it was less
expensive and I could get in, not necessarily in that order.
And I left college with like $ 10, 000 or something.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And if you're starting a family, you have a young family,
don't be afraid to have those conversations now of what
you're going to give your kids. That will, when you
go in there and draw up that will, that's a
tough day. Because, you know, everybody's kind of looking at
me because, hey, when you die, because I'll die before
(40:22):
my wife. And then, you know, you got to ask
tough questions.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
No, my wife will live.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
To be 100.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Why don't you cold take that one? My wife lived
to be 100. Dylan is in the box, the confessional.
More cheery talk like this coming up in the final
hour of the program. Luke Keekly, Hall of Famer, will
stop by. More of your phone calls as well. Fritzy
is here, a hero. Dylan, Marv, Paulie, yours truly, and
(40:48):
the BRGs.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Hour two on this Tuesday. I'm over there
talking to Paulie. We're just chopping it up a little bit.
And all of a sudden I go, oh, I think
that's my cue.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We're just bro-ing out.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm supposed to be in my chair. Kyle Whittingham, Michigan
head football coach. He will join us coming up in
a little bit. Luke Kuechly, Hall of Famer, will stop
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(00:56):
for Hour 2. Let's clean up Hour 1, Dylan. By
the way, Todd is back. Incredible. This is really an incredible,
one of the great comebacks of all time. And he
is here after the surgery. It's kind of a Willis
Reed coming out of the locker room in 1970, leading
the Knicks to a title. Willis Reed only scored four
(01:18):
points in that game, but still came out of the
tunnel and, oh my goodness, Didn't think he would make it.
But Todd, after surgery, life-threatening surgery, is here today. Dylan
in the back row. Marv up front with Paul Ears
truly and the backroom guys as well. All right, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well, I got bad news for you, Dan. According to 72%
of people, they think Todd just had a procedure.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I don't know. He put him under. When there's an
anesthesia involved, Todd actually thought that was the name of
the nurse.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Wait, is your last name Estesia?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I thought it was Annabelle Estesia.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Anna for short. Ooh, Anna Estesia.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Hi, Anna. How are you? Todd did Google the nurse
who took care of him, by the way. I just
wanted to say thank you for, you know, because I
was nervous.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Of course.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You didn't want to thank the doctor who actually did
the surgery on you.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Yeah, he's just there doing his part.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Todd's going to consider a malpractice lawsuit just to talk
to her again.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
What do we have, Dylan?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Do you think that's the first Google of a nurse ever?
Because I'm sure doctors get Googled all the time. That
genuinely might be the first instance.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Not by Todd, I don't think. By someone else. There
was an assistant. She wasn't a nurse, but she worked
with the doctor who gave me the replacement knee. And
when she was in the room, you knew she was
in the room. But I remember when she was taking
out my surgery, she goes, I love doing this. She's
(02:54):
taking out the stitches. I'm like, oh, all right. You
love doing this.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
877-3DP-SHOW. Email address, dp at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow.
The head coach at Michigan, Kyle Winningham. Still sounds strange
to say that, coach, after all those years at Utah.
Do you have any Utah gear left over?
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Uh, there's probably some back in Utah somewhere in my
house back there, but it would take me a minute
to locate it.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So how prepared are you for this moment?
Speaker 7 (03:26):
Uh, well, shoot as prepared as we could possibly be.
I mean, we got, uh, three more days of practice.
We certainly need every one of them, but, uh, we've
had a really good fall camp, made a ton of
progress and, uh, eager to play, uh, somebody else, you know,
we've been beating on ourselves for eight months now. And
so it's, It's going to be good to find out
what we got on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But the expectation level– now, Utah wanted you to win.
Michigan wants you to win. Do you feel any different
with the expectations from the fans of, you know, what
they're hoping for?
Speaker 7 (03:58):
No, I don't believe so. I mean, you know, in
both places, you're hoping for conference championships and then whatever
you can accomplish beyond that. But, you know, I've said
it before. It doesn't matter what level you're coaching at.
High school– college, NFL, I mean, wherever you are, you're
all in. And if you're all in and you're, and you've, uh,
you know, given it everything you got, then you have
(04:19):
the same, uh, burning desire to win as, uh, as
anybody else.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Why did you feel the need to clarify your comments
about Ohio state?
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Well, I didn't feel the need to clarify. They, they
were asked about it. You know, people ask about it
and I, uh, you know, just answer questions.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
So from the first comments to the second, um, People
want to hear you say you hate Ohio State, right?
Speaker 7 (04:47):
I guess that's what they want. I don't know. I
want to beat them as bad as anybody, probably worse.
How about this? I guess we could hate them all
one day a year. How about that?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, but I said, and I grew up in Ohio,
I said, give him a break. You can know about
this rivalry. It'd be like if somebody went and said, oh,
you're at Utah, you got to hate BYU, and you
just came there. You're like, all right, let me live
this first a little bit here. So I don't know
if there's a tutorial on how to strongly dislike a team.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Yeah, to me, it's got to happen organically. And it's
tough to manufacture that. And so But just the competitive
nature of the game. I mean, it's the rivalry game
in the, you know, the premier rivalry game in the country.
And it, you know, that's, you know, everybody knows that
I'm fully aware of that. And by no means was
I'm trying to downplay the game and the game is huge.
(05:43):
I mean, it's a huge game year in and year out.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
All you got to do is win. You can hate them.
And if you don't beat them, nobody's going to give
you credit for, well, at least you hate them, coach.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Exactly. Good point. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Help me understand where you stood with NFL players coming
back to college. I know that, you know, all the
conferences are kind of in sync on this, but did
you ever think we'd get to a situation like this
where somebody leaves college, goes to the pros, puts on
a uniform or two, and then comes back?
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Did not foresee that at all. And that's something that, but,
but any, you know, in this day and age, anything
that happens in college football shouldn't come as a surprise.
I mean, we're so all over the, we're so all
over the place with everything that, that I guess anything's possible.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Okay. How did we get here with just no, there's
no singular voice. There's no lifeguard on duty in the
deep end here, coach.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
And that's, that's the problem. I mean, you look at
the NFL, which is in my opinion, the best-run sports
organization in the world, and you've got a great structure
and a commissioner that lays down the law. And if
you cross that line, you pay severe penalties. And I
think that's what we've got to get to in college football.
(07:00):
We've got to get to some sort of NFL minor
league model. I've said that many, many times. But why
wouldn't you pattern yourself after the best to ever do it?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Kyle Whittingham, Michigan, head football coach, beginning the season this Saturday,
Western Michigan. Next Saturday, you welcome in Oklahoma to Ann Arbor.
There was a story in the Salt Lake Tribune a
couple of days ago. Some former players accused you and
your staff of mishandling injuries. I want to give you
a chance to address this.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Never in my career have I ever tried to sway, influence,
influence Whatever the word is, our medical staff, wherever I've been,
we listen to the medical staff. If they say a
player's available, we go with that. And if they say
he's not available, we go with that. So I'm not
sure where this came from or just how it ever materialized,
(07:54):
but never in my career have we ever crossed the
line of trying to override a medical decision by our
medical staff.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Could you have stayed at Utah if you wanted to?
Speaker 7 (08:07):
I believe that's probably would have been in the cards.
I think, I think if it really pushed came to
shove and, you know, I had two years left on
my contract and, and, uh, but, uh, you know, I've
always been the type of guy, don't worry about your welcome.
And I felt like that, that was starting to happen. And, and, uh,
you know, overstaying your, your welcome is something that, uh,
(08:29):
I had made a, uh, you know, a conscious decision
not to do several years ago. And when I, And
you just don't want to stay somewhere too long. Maybe
I did stay too long as I was. I don't know.
But I'm grateful for the situation I'm in now and
couldn't be happier with what's going on here in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Felt like mutual parting. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 7 (08:52):
That's probably on some people's part back there. Yeah, I'd
say depending who you talk to.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Do you know how good your team can be right now?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
That's a good question. I don't know if anyone in
the country knows how good their team can be because even,
you know, you're playing against each other. And if you
struggle moving the ball, is it because you're lousy on
offense or is it because your defense is outstanding and
vice versa? And so you never really get a good
gauge completely until you line up and play somebody, but
you can certainly see talent and positions that really are,
(09:26):
you know, special. And so I think you gotta, you
got somewhat of an idea, but you don't know for
sure until you line up and get a, Get someone
to play against and get a barometer to measure yourself against.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What's the coolest thing in your office?
Speaker 7 (09:39):
The coolest thing in my office? A lot of pictures
of my grandkids. They're around here somewhere. Oh, somebody gave
me this. Oh, I can't show it to you. There's
a really cool M that lights up that's got lightning
bolts throughout it. Really cool. It's a good size. You
can change the colors and all that stuff. So, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Anything mean you want to say?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Not as cool stuff as you got.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I do have some great stuff in here. I think
the one, do I have a Michigan helmet in here?
I got all kinds of helmets in here. Do I?
We don't have one. I don't think I have one.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Let's get you one. We'll get you one.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh, no, no, no. No, no. Hold on.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Hold on.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Coach, we'll just keep each other company.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
Yeah, okay. Yes.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
There you go, Dan.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I don't have an Ohio State helmet in here.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
No, that's good news.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I like to hear that. And I think this came from,
who was the wide receiver who played for the Giants?
Imani Toomer? Yes. I think Imani Toomer gave me his
helmet here, Coach. I think it's a keeper.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's autographed here.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
That's the old, that's the old school bike helmet.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah. And then you got the stickers here.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Uh, we still have that tradition.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
What did the, uh, stickers mean?
Speaker 7 (10:58):
If I, uh, all different things, you know, some of
the area code of the player, uh, or he's from, uh,
big wins, uh, big plays in games. I mean, it's
got all kinds of different things on those stickers.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
What if I go to class? Do I get a sticker?
Like little things like that. That used to matter back
in our day.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Well, it still matters.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
You know, that matters to me anyways. And, you know,
graduating players is number one on the list and winning
games is number two. And that's, that's how I've always functioned.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Do you want to say anything mean about Ryan day
before we say goodbye?
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Say anything mean? No, we'll see him. We'll see him
the last game of the season. How about that?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Wow, that's bulletin board material right there.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Don't bait me.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Good to talk to you. Good luck this weekend.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Okay, man. Thank you. Thank you, Kyle.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's Kyle Whittingham. Yeah, I don't have an Ohio State helmet,
but this is a real helmet. This is one of
those heavy suckers. I could walk around and try to
convince people I played for Michigan, just like that guy
with the 49ers. Can you imagine a guy is on
the beach running pass patterns with his Niners helmet on,
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trying to convince the ladies that he played for the Niners.
And he scammed these women out of over a million dollars.
They thought that he was a professional football player. Yes, Molly.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Ayuk's been scamming the Niners for two years, so this
guy is not even close.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Wow. Yeah, the story that I saw, Salt Lake Tribune,
I know it's a big deal, local. I have to
ask just to have Coach on record of talking about
it or having him on and then not at least
asking him about it. But it had to do with
a handful of players who it felt like they were
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saying Kyle was old school and that he wanted you
to play through injuries or maybe force players to play
through injuries. And once again, I'm paraphrasing. I read the
article this morning and felt the need that I should
at least ask him. And when I said the need
to clarify his comments about Ohio state, he initially said
something about Ohio state and it was kind of lukewarm
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for the Michigan fans. Like, wait a minute, you got
to hate Ohio state. Well, he just got there. And
if he came in on fire and that he hated
Ohio state, then I don't know. You might sound like
Brian Kelly at LSU. No, just like, no, no, you know,
I know the significance of the game. Um, And believe me,
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once we get to that point, I'll be ready to go. Like,
you know, you can't wait to beat him. You can
hate him. I'd rather you beat him. You could even say, look,
I respect Ohio State and Ryan Day. Yeah, and I'm
glad we beat them again. If I'm a Michigan fan,
I'm fine with that. I don't want the guy. Brady
Hoke may have hated Ohio State. Did he beat him?
(13:55):
He didn't even have his headset plugged in. Poor Brady.
He was a nice guy. How did I get that
comment about him saying, not good? Did I say something
about how do you like your chances against Ohio State?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I think it was a similar question. How do you
feel about your team this year? And he was like, not.
And he crossed himself up and he said, good.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
We'll deep dive it.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Yeah, I forget.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I thought it had something to do with Ohio State,
and he said, not good. That's fun. Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I didn't realize that that's where that came from.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, Brady Hoke. Yeah, see if we can find that.
By the way, Labor Day weekend on NBC, you got baseball.
You got a doubleheader. It'll be Braves-Phillies Sunday, Twins-White Sox. Monday, Cardinals-Giants.
Labor Day weekend on NBC and Peacock. All right, we'll
take a break. Phone call's coming up. Settle on a
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Patrick Show.
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Speaker 3 (15:54):
I think we found the origin of Brady Hoke, the
former Michigan head coach, that he gave us this.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
Not good.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I think Paulie said that we have a fan who
is kind of like the ombudsman, that he knows everything
that happened on the show. And he told Paulie during
the commercial break, I asked Brady Hoke how he felt
about Urban Meyer going to Ohio State when he was
leaving Florida and went to Ohio State. And that's when
Brady Hoke said, Not good. Pretty spot on. It's so,
(16:32):
it's just an honest answer. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Uh, not good.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Uh, We'll get phone calls coming up. Luke Keekly, Hall
of Famer, will join us coming up next hour. He's
Kyle Long, CBS Sports, NFL Today studio analyst. Big tough
guy here. Good to see you again. How would you
have done against your dad if you had to block
your dad in his prime?
Speaker 8 (16:59):
Oh, boy, I would have brought help. That's the good
thing about playing offensive line. I would have taken my licks, though.
He was pretty violent with his hands. You've got to
be aware of the get-off. You've got to be aware
of the one-two club rip inside, I would imagine, is
on the menu. And then that Reggie White patented hump
move is probably the main course.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
When did you, I guess, realize you could take your dad? Like,
if you're wrestling, there had to be... I'm still waiting, Dan.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Really?
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I'm still waiting. You know, it's funny.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
There's that inverse relationship of the ability to whip your
dad's ass and then your willingness or want to whip
his ass. It's like, as you get older, you could,
but it's just like, why would I do that? Look at,
he's making, he's making a blueberry shake for my, my grand,
my daughter. Like, you know, why would I want to
get him now?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But I don't know. It's like you play one-on-one with
your dad playing basketball.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
I think he was aware probably when I was 16, um,
that I could do some things physically that might've put
him in jeopardy at the time.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
No, I don't know. I couldn't do the math on
how old he was, but you know.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Probably around 16, 17 is when I started to realize
and my older brother, Chris started to keep his distance.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Probably.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'll bet the fights though. I mean, your mom had
to go, I got to replace that end table or
that chair, that couch.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
Yeah, she was dealing with riot control, crowd control, far
before it became in vogue in American society.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
All right, let me give you the full introduction. First
round pick, 20th overall pick by the Bears, joining us
on behalf of GenerationFine.com. We'll talk about that because I
love what you're doing with this. At this point in
the preseason, do you know what kind of team you
had going into week one when you were playing?
Speaker 8 (18:53):
I think that the good things about your roster are
always you have a higher expectation for, and the bad
things you say, this is going to be our Achilles,
it's going to kill us. And then you end up
somewhere in the middle. I mean, it always ends up
being a one score game, Dan. It's like, can you
get the third and one conversion? That's really what it
(19:15):
comes down to. And I think You know, if I
look at the Bears, for example, people are really keen
on the Bears offense. And Ben Johnson says he's going
to set an NFL record for points per game.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
And that's all well and good.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
But he knows that has to be the case because
they've got injuries on the back end. They've got question
marks up front. They've got guys getting paid a lot
of money that haven't produced the way that they expect.
And Bears fans are hoping that this thing lands somewhere
in the middle.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, and trying to handicap the NFC North. Now, I
know Green Bay's got some issues. Certainly, Josh Jacobs out.
Micah Parsons not back for a little while there. The
Vikings defense is going to keep them in games, it
feels like. And then you've got the Lions that we
kind of forgot about. So if you were going to
go one through four.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
If I were to go one through four, I would
say the two teams holding hands at the top of
the totem poles, the Packers and the Bears. And I
think the Lions are right there with a hand on
one of their ankles. And who the hell knows who
the Vikings are going to be? To your point, that
defense can carry a football team. Kevin O'Connell is a
brilliant coach. And if Kyler Murray can be Kyler Murray,
(20:24):
there's a lot of people who are going to be
in trouble. There's a lot of people in Vegas who
are either going to look like brilliant In fact, I
think that if Kyler Murray can figure out how to
press the circle button, which is Justin Jefferson on his
Xbox controller, he's going to find great success in that division.
And it's going to be close games. And who can
(20:46):
guard who in a two-minute? Really, that's who it comes
down to.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I've asked former offensive linemen, even current ones, blocking for
a scrambler, blocking for a passing quarterback. what would you
have preferred?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Well, it really does depend.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
So like if I got a guy like, let's say
I'm blocking for Patrick Mahomes, you understand what the play
is drawn up to be and you understand where the
launch point is, where he's going to throw it from
and what the action is leading up to it, what
we're trying to influence the defense to do.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
What you can.
Speaker 8 (21:21):
Account for is the great things that are going to
happen after that three second timer goes off when Patrick
goes Picasso on the defense. There are luxuries to having
guys like that because they can get out of harm's
way on their own. Now, the ask becomes greater for
an offensive lineman because your clock goes from four seconds
to maybe eight seconds if you're running around there behind
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the line of scrimmage. You get a guy who's a
pocket passer, your job becomes very easy. If I blocked
for Matt Ryan, easy in terms of predictability, Dan. None
of it's easy, but the ball's out. The ball is out.
Go watch the mic'd ups of these defensive linemen rushing
against these statuesque pocket passers where the ball is out.
(22:06):
They are frustrated beyond belief because there is no move
that they can do that wins.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
How would you test Aaron Donald now coming back after
a couple of years?
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Well, I would lean heavily on double teaming in the
run game and, and reminding him of what kind of
game he's stepping back into. Uh, And I'm not saying
in any way that Aaron is not going to come
back and dominate. But if I'm an OC, I'm going
to put four hands on him, two helmets, and a
(22:36):
couple of thigh boards. And we're going to run the
football with that game plan. And then when we have
to throw the football, you continue to give him that action.
You do not let him take the fight to the
offensive line. He is as dominant in a passing situation
as there's ever been.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
What did it feel like trying to block him?
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Well, luckily in the one year that we played the Rams,
I played tackle. It felt like blocking a fire hydrant,
quite honestly. So I was coming down on the double team,
trying to find a spot in his hip area while
my guard was praying and trying to get hands on him.
And this was young Aaron Donald. And I do remember
(23:20):
he gave us fits. And this was before he was A.D.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
99.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
But I knew I had inside intel from that Rams
locker room, my brother, that they had drafted a future
Hall of Famer like his first week in camp. Chris
was like, this guy is unbelievable. So when I was
playing him. He was finding his way through the cracks.
He was unbelievable at finding... He was like water. He
could get in between anything. And he would look at
(23:44):
you after the play. He looked at me one time
and he said, every time you look down at me pre-snap,
I know it's a double team. And I was like,
you're not supposed to help me, bro. You're 20 years
old and you're 5'11.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Go back to the little that I know.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
How did he fall where he fell to?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think for whatever reason....
Speaker 8 (24:07):
We were at the end of the stage of the
phase where size mattered, right? Like you have to fit
a certain archetype. And Aaron Donald is an outlier, but
it also opens the door for plenty of guys who
are 5'11, 250, to go terrorize guards on third down.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
It's like.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
The pitcher who threw Aroldis Chapman. There was a place
for him. He would come in and he would throw
103 and guys wouldn't know what to do with it.
It's the same impact that one of these rush tackles
can have on a guard. And I think about a
guy like Willie Lampkin, who was a center out of
University of North Carolina.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
He's 5'10, DP, 5'10, 290 pounds, but.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
He is all.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
Ass kick and grit okay and he's on the Eagles
roster and he has been choking these Giants out all
summer long that he's a prime example of like you
let a guy like that in the club now you
got to let all the 5'11 gangsters in the club.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Okay uh do you miss hitting people um I.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
Miss high-fiving my teammates. You know, like I just miss
being around the guys. This version of me does not
like miss hitting people. I loved it when I was
that age because I was good at it. But now
the things that I miss is, you know, sitting next
to Matt Forte and eating pancakes and getting laughed at
(25:36):
for 10 minutes and Going to the training room and,
you know, John Fox coming in and telling us a
ridiculous story about his boating adventure that weekend or, you know,
hanging out with the equipment guys and just hearing about
the debauchery that happens in a 19-year-old's life in Chicago.
Tell me what you're doing with Generation Fine. Generation Fine. Okay,
(25:57):
so this is a fantastic thing. And like Size Matters
going out the window, I think Mental Health Mattering is
coming into the house now because– Fine doesn't have to
be a finish line. So many times you get asked
how you're doing.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
You say, I'm good. I'm fine.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
But fine's not the finish line. We can be way
better than that. And there's ways to get there.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
There's tools, resources, information.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
You can visit generation-fine.com and you can find out why
I'm partnered with Johnson & Johnson and why this is
so important to me. Because for so long, I thought
that the things that I was feeling and for a
lack of a better term, depression at times would creep
into my life as an athlete, as a man, as
a father, as a husband. Um, and I didn't know
(26:39):
what to do with the way that I was feeling. Um,
there are resources, tools, you're not alone. There's so many
more guys that you know, that are dealing with something silently.
I call it the silent battle. Um, and you know,
we're here, we're waiting. It's like, you know, It's like
that angel in the movies where you see him in
a couple scenes and you're like, I've seen that person.
(27:00):
And then they show up at the end and they
save the day. If you just stop and talk to
that person when you saw him the first time and
that person is that conversation about mental health and there's
more people there to share your experience and their experience
with you.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Why do players, did players feel the need to hide this?
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Well, I think I have a unique perspective on this
growing up in a football house and a football a
gladiatorial football house you know one that was football proper
okay like six weeks training camp two a day it's
full pad type shit excuse my language um and i
understood that what you show is what they know and
(27:41):
what they know could get you killed and i'm i'm
in the camp now of Why not work on your
mental health like you work on your front squat, like
you work on your hamstring stretches, like you work on
your cardio? It can be a weapon for you in
the best way possible. It's a light inside of you,
(28:01):
and you can make it brighter if you work on it,
if you recognize what you're going through.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, I went through a dark period. I had an
autoimmune that was affecting me and I didn't want to
get out of bed. And my wife said, why don't
you share this on your show? Because if you share it,
then maybe a light goes on with somebody. He's willing
to talk about that. And it was painful to reveal that,
(28:28):
that you go into that shell where you just don't
want to do anything. And so, I mean, it took
a long time for me to get through it, but
I can certainly empathize with NFL players. You're in your
30s or 40s. And we've seen what happens with not
only depression, but everything else with CTE. And I mean,
(28:50):
there's a there's a whole melting pot here of stuff
that you you don't even know what's on the horizon.
So I do appreciate you sharing this because I do
think it's really important that we do talk about this
instead of because you know what? When I was growing up, Kyle,
it was, oh, he's got mental illness. Like if you
(29:10):
had depression, there was something mentally wrong with you. Therefore,
you never said anything to anybody.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
Yeah, and it's really brave of you, and I appreciate
you speaking up on that. And is this not just
the damnedest thing? What a microcosm of what Generation Fine
is all about.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It's like, reach out, dude.
Speaker 8 (29:29):
There's a network of people that are, you know, whatever
word you want to put in there.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
And I really relate with your couldn't get out of bed.
And I've been there before.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
When I dealt with injury and when I dealt with
the stress and rigors of playing the National Football League,
there have been moments where I have been literally stuck
in place and I need somebody to come physically remove me.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And I know there's others out there.
Speaker 8 (29:55):
And dude, if that's you listening on the other end
and you feel in any way that like making your
life better, take a visit to generation-fine.com.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Good luck this season with the football with CBS. Big,
big promotion there, moving up the ladder.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Yeah, having fun. We got them fooled another year, Dan.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
My best to your father. And thanks again, Kyle.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, thanks a lot. See you guys soon.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's Kyle Long, CBS. He's part of the NFL Today
studio analyst and former Bears offensive lineman. It's Generation Fine.
Take a break. We've got phone calls coming up. Luke Keekly,
who retired early in the NFL. Luke played eight years,
I think, and went through concussions. Kyle played eight years.
(30:47):
I think that when I see players, and it's weird
to say this, the better you are, the more susceptible
you are for CTE because you're going to keep playing,
keep playing, three more years, Aaron Donald coming back. And
I understand it, that if you say to those players,
would you do it differently? Most of them would say no,
(31:09):
because I provided for my family. And that's where when
somebody comes back, like Aaron Donald, I can only think,
he gets hit every single play, or he's hitting somebody
every single play. And you just had that study that
came out that talked about the number of players that
they examined. in a 10-year period, that it would be
(31:31):
an epidemic level in any other walk of life. We
don't refer to that in the NFL. So I'm very
cognizant of it, very empathetic, sympathetic. And when somebody is
willing to talk about depression, and if we can have
them on the show, then I hope that I'm helping
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you on the other end. But, you know, 20 years ago,
I may not have been able to grasp this or
the number of sponsors who would be taking up this
crusade or the players willing to come forward. And I
know Kyle has talked about this, and I appreciate that.
We'll take a break. Phone calls coming up. Update our
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poll results. We're back after this.
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Speaker 3 (32:28):
Big night tonight at my house. Really, really exciting. You
guys want to guess what's going on?
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yes, Paul.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
You're saying by your family before football season?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
No.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
I'm doing that.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
No, I did that before, a while ago, when the
preseason started. Todd, do you have any idea? Big night
at my house.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Some kind of post-wedding get-together with everybody in the house?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Another celebration?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Okay, you're at least on the topic of what's going
to be the big night about. Yes, Marvin?
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Your wife, or your wife, your daughter and new son-in-law
are coming back to your house.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
No.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
No.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
No? Dylan?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
You guys are having tacos for dinner.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Well, it is Tuesday. We are going to open up
the envelope of how much the wedding cost us. Because
my wife said when we checked out of the hotel,
she said to the person behind the counter, just put
(33:37):
it in an envelope and seal it up. And they said,
you don't want to check the charges? And my wife goes, nope,
just seal the envelope. We'll open it up at a
later date.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I've had a wedding before, and I only saw some
of the bills, but I thought most of it was
scheduled and prepaid beforehand. But are you talking ancillary things?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Everything that's on the bill.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Do you have an idea?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
No. You know what?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I just didn't, I didn't want it to ruin my day.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Where are you going? Wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
How much that costs. Now I know there's certain things
we had a budget. We said to my daughter, you know, here,
here's your budget. If you go over this, then you
take the money out of your inheritance. Cause I thought
we want to let them get their inheritance before we die.
So we know what you're going to do with your inheritance.
(34:29):
I know dark, but yes, I was like, let, let
her understand how much these things are costing. And, uh,
She still blew through the stop sign. But I said, okay,
but you're going to spend your money after we give
you a certain amount. We're opening up the envelope. The envelope, please.
(34:50):
That's what we're opening up. And big night tonight. Because
my wife said, what do you want to drink? And
I said, everything. Everything, hon. How about a couple of
beers and then maybe some tequila?
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We don't want to get into exact numbers, but if
we were ballparking it, would it be like a year
at a high-end college?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I don't even want to hint at what I think
it could be. It's far more than one year at USC.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Got it.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Far more than one year of college anywhere.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
So is this a bad time to ask for my inheritance?
You said four kids, four Danettes?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah. Because, you know, when people say, oh, you know,
you're going to leave some money to your kids. And
I wanted to see what they would do when they
get to a certain age. And if they're not married,
then they can get their inheritance. If you're married, then
you can get your inheritance. And I said, well, why
don't we see what they're going to do with it
(35:53):
instead of, you know, I'm gone. I don't know what's
going on. So, yeah, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
You're not worried they could fake it for, you know,
until you guys do pass and then just really turn
the jets on. Then that's probably what I would do.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
If they want to. I mean, it's up to them.
I just said, you know, just be smart. You know,
this is it. Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I saw an interview with the great actress, comedian, Julie Louis-Dreyfus,
and she grew up rich, like rich, rich. And she said,
I had a lot of rich friends and they went
two ways. Do nothing or know that you could do
anything because you got a place to live and a
car and a backup.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Plan but if you're married or you get to 35
i'm assuming you already have if we've done our job
as parents then we've taught you correctly of how to
live be you know good worker oh you know all
of those things it's not like i think you get
to 35 and you're gonna go let's go crazy um
(36:51):
Or you get married and you go, well, let's spend lavishly. Yes, Paul?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I don't know a lot about Dylan's family, but Dylan
kind of seems like a guy who's waiting around for
his inheritance.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (37:02):
No offense.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
I only wish that were the case. I wouldn't be here.
I'd be doing nothing.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Really? You would leave?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
No, no, I wouldn't leave. I'm saying, like, if I
knew in five years there was a substantial sum of
money coming my way, I'd be coasting to 35.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I think you've been.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
More than now.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
This isn't hard work.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
This is not coasting?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You are a coaster.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I've been known to coast.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
That sounds like a slacker, but you're a coaster.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
It feels like we just came up with a new term. Like, yeah,
trust fund kid, you're a coaster.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Aren't you?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
It sounds nicer than slacker.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
It does.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
And it actually implies you're doing less.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I know Todd... isn't sitting on any inheritance from his mom.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
No, I, I didn't. I think it, it cost me
money when, uh, my dad died and my mom died.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I got it.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
There wasn't anything there. I remember going, man, I don't
think mom has any, my dad died at 54. And
I'm thinking, I wonder, Does he have an inheritance? I
found out quickly he did not. We had to pay money.
It's like, we got to pay for a headstone here.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
Wait, what? Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
They hit you with the old inheritance Uno reverse card
late in the game.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
And even my wife, her dad owned a pizzeria in
lower Manhattan. And I thought, all right, maybe he's got
some money.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Nope, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Didn't have any money. But, you know, if you're not
expecting it, you know, it's not like you're disappointed. It's
when you go, man, I think dad was really raking
it in. And all of a sudden you find out, no, no,
he wasn't. He was not. Marvin, I know you don't
have a treasure trove at the end of the rainbow. No, but.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
The absentee dad, he left me something.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I know when you said it and I was like,
good for you. You deserve far more than that, but
at least you got something from it.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
I mean, wait, he waited until I became somebody. I
was like, man, I don't need it. I'll take it.
But I was like, what about when I needed it?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
When my dad passed away, we got a little money
for college funds. There was like this lawsuit and stuff.
And I remember it was like a decent amount of dough.
I didn't know anything about money. But I couldn't get
in any colleges that I could use that level of
college fund for. I couldn't get into Berkeley or USC
or Harvard.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, there's reasons why you couldn't.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Believe me.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
I had the money, not the ability.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Well, Paul, did that then just become spendable cash for you?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'd be proud of myself.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I didn't blow it.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I went to Southern Illinois University because it was less
expensive and I could get in, not necessarily in that order.
And I left college with like $ 10, 000 or something.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And if you're starting a family, you have a young family,
don't be afraid to have those conversations now of what
you're going to give your kids. That will, when you
go in there and draw up that will, that's a
tough day. Because, you know, everybody's kind of looking at
me because, hey, when you die, because I'll die before
(40:22):
my wife. And then, you know, you got to ask
tough questions.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
No, my wife will live.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
To be 100.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Why don't you cold take that one? My wife lived
to be 100. Dylan is in the box, the confessional.
More cheery talk like this coming up in the final
hour of the program. Luke Keekly, Hall of Famer, will
stop by. More of your phone calls as well. Fritzy
is here, a hero. Dylan, Marv, Paulie, yours truly, and
(40:48):
the BRGs.
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Dan Patrick
Patrick "Seton" O'Connor
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