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September 8, 2026 • 41 mins

Dan continues to explore the fallout from Michigan’s controversial win over Western Michigan. And former NFL DE Gerald McCoy stops by to help preview Week 1 of the NFL season which begins tomorrow.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hour two on this Tuesday, best and worst of the weekend,
what you saw that you liked, you didn't like, and
there's a lot to talk about. Gerald McCoy from NFL
Network fame will join us coming up. Former Oklahoma Sooner, Oklahoma, Michigan,
coming up this weekend. Stat of the Day brought to
you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program.

(00:26):
The NFL season kicks off tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
It'll be a rematch of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It'll be the Patriots-Seahawks 7 Eastern festivities start on NBC
and Peacock, which is where you can find this program.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Download the app if you haven't done so. Also, NBC
Sports Now.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
You have the Patriots finally coming to terms with Christian Gonzalez,
the great cornerback there. He's now the highest paid cornerback.
Devon Witherspoon, $ 33 million. Gonzalez, 33.7. And then Denzel Ward,
31 million. Trent McDuffie, 31. Sauce Gardner, 30. Look back

(01:07):
at that 2023 draft.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Just the first two rounds here. Will Anderson, Witherspoon, B.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
John Robinson, Jalen Carter, Darnell Wright, Jameer Gibbs, Christian Gonzalez,
Jack Campbell, J.S.N., Zay Flowers.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Joey Porter Jr., Sam Laporta.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Rasheed Rice. That's the first two rounds. And Joey Porter Jr.
is going to get paid at some point by the Steelers.
They're not sure if he's going to play opening week
because he's holding out for a new contract. But Witherspoon
with Seattle and Gonzalez with the Patriots squaring off tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, Paul?

Speaker 5 (01:50):
There are a ton of hits in that draft. I mean,
even in the later rounds, Puka... Fifth round, Sam Laporta,
second round. Lots of Devin Achein, the running back, later.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Tons of hits.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
We'll have a poll question for Hour 2. We'll recap
what we talked about in Hour 1. Spent a lot
of time talking about the ending of Michigan against Western Michigan.
That was a lossy win. Maybe it's a new expression here.
That was a lossy win for Michigan. LSU rolled. Oregon
holds off Boise State. Ole Miss sneaks by Louisville. And,

(02:24):
of course, the clock issue with Michigan and Western Michigan.
The Rams are finally on the way to Australia. Two
different schools of thought. The Niners have been there for
a few days. And I think what Sean McVay is
hoping for, his team is going to get there and
kind of blow through any kind of jet lag.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Stay up.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Stay on L.A. time the best you can. Play the
game and then come back home.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
And I've seen a couple or heard a couple analysts
saying it might be tougher for the Niners to be
coming back from Australia.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I'm not worried about coming back.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I want to know what you do when you get
to Australia. But the Rams, I also saw, now these
are a couple of opinions. I haven't seen a report yet.
I did see where Kyle Shanahan thinks Aaron Donald is
going to play in that game on Thursday, which would
surprise me. But that might be Aaron Donald saying, let
me just go out there and get hit or hit somebody.

(03:25):
I would not play him.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I would.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Be really, really.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Strict on how many plays I want him out there
in September. I want him ready December and January and
certainly February. But Aaron Donald knows his body, Sean McVay.
You'll be a rotational player. I understand that. It's just
I've seen guys, and I know the feeling where you go,

(03:55):
I'm going to go easy here. Next thing you know,
you're going full court, diving on the floor for a
loose ball, trying to chase down somebody.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
It gets the better of you, your ego, the competitor
in you.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
But if you're And, you know, I think Kyle Shanahan's
saying the right thing.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
You've got to prepare for Aaron Donald. You should.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Whether he's going to play or not, you're going to
eventually have to prepare for him because he's going to
eventually play. All right, Dylan, let's clean up what we
did in hour one with the poll questions, and what
are we going to go with hour two?

Speaker 6 (04:29):
Michigan fans storming the field after the 13-12 win over
Western Michigan is deserved. Crazy ending or lame for multiple reasons.
Still cruising at 93%.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Think it's lame.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Here's some stats here with the LSU game against Clemson.
LSU outgained Clemson by 499 total yards. LSU outrushed them
309 to 40. There's certain things that you can maybe
cover up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Like Michigan winning that game.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Doesn't cover up their lackluster play at quarterback, and they
didn't run the ball. That was not Michigan, not what
you would expect from Michigan. Defensively, they played well. Offensively,
that's the bigger picture that is being covered up, I think, because, hey,
we somehow got this victory here. Clemson, now you go

(05:26):
back home and you're like, and they got Georgia Southern
coming up. Georgia Southern is a quality opponent here. This
is one of those, maybe you didn't think you were
going to watch it, but you'll at least be curious
about this. Because Clemson going home against Georgia Southern, you
would think would be a win, an impressive win. Now
it's a must-win situation. I didn't think I'd be saying

(05:49):
that about Clemson, but I am. That's a must-win situation.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yes, Marvin?

Speaker 7 (05:55):
If you're an LSU fan, what are your expectations now
after Game 1? Are you thinking, let's get to the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh, sure. Oh, sure. And make a run.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Why wouldn't you think you're going to the playoffs? They
got money they spent. They got transfers they brought in.
You know, that's a quality team. I would be thinking that.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, Marv.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
Especially after that type of performance, too. It's not like
Michigan just barely beating Western Michigan. You'd be a really
good or a respectable Clemson team.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
The whole Michigan thing.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
And once again, I, I have two great sources on
this who have inundated me. They've, they've kept me honest
with this. Uh, and they're not with either of the schools,
but they've been telling me, you know, simple things like,
why don't we have clocks that show tenths of a second?
If we do that in basketball, why don't we do

(06:54):
that in football? Because the stadium clock just said zeros.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Um, The stadium will never have tenths of a second showing.
That's somebody who is involved in this situation. Never have that.
Stadium and TV clocks, not always. I'd be curious after this,
and usually it takes something magnanimous where there's change. I

(07:24):
don't know if scoreboards are outfitted to be able to
show tenths of a second, but after this.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I certainly am curious.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yes, Paul.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
It just doesn't feel like the NFL would allow this
to happen and not allow another play to happen, that
they would have made sure they're synced up at halftime
or synced up to start the fourth quarter, or it
wouldn't have gone to replay. The game would have been over,
and people would have gone to their locker rooms.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I also brought this up, that there is a field goal,
and I'm looking to see how much time goes off
the clock. So this is late in the game. I'm
looking at it now. There's 38 seconds to go. The
ball is snapped, and this is a field goal attempt,

(08:10):
and it's good. Three seconds went off the clock for
the entire play. Not four, not five, three.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
When does the clock stop on a field goal? I
should ask.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
You know, one of my sources, if they have information,
because is it when it goes through the goalpost? Like
if we're going to get technical with what happened at
the end of that game, let's get technical here. Does it,
when it goes through the goal, when, when does the
play end when you, when you stop the clock, because
that has home cooking written all over it far more

(08:51):
than we got to put one more second up there.
One more second. The officials had to agree to that. This,
the scoreboard operator, That's three seconds, but when does that
clock stop? After the field goal is made, when the
ball comes to the ground, when it goes through the upright,
when it hits the net?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yes, Paulie?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
I'm looking at the NFL. NFL rules, when it hits
the net, they stop the clock. Traditionally, teams make sure
there's four or fewer seconds left if a coach calls
a timeout because he knows... It'll go four seconds on
a field goal attempt from almost anywhere.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
So four seconds. Generally. This is three seconds.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (09:32):
All right.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Just once again, things don't add up, but I just,
I can't understand why the big 10 has a clock
and the stadium clock NBC is calling the game. It's
not fair to them. Now, you know, 99.9% of the time,

(09:55):
this probably would never come up. But I don't know that.
I didn't know that they have tenths of a second
that maybe the home office of the Big Ten has.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Does the SEC have this? The ACC have this?

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
If I'm the Oklahoma Sooners social media team, I'm already
ready for next week. If Oklahoma beats Michigan, you just
put the final score and just put underneath no extra
second needed.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Let's see. One of my sources, clock stops on a
field goal when it touches something. Could be a fan
in the stands. It'd be the netting. This is college.
This is college, what I'm being told.

Speaker 8 (10:41):
All righty.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Get a couple of phone calls in here.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
What's the poll question for hour two going to be there, Dylan?

Speaker 6 (10:48):
Well, we've got some Clemson slash Dabo stuff. Actually, Picture
Day Ray sent this one over. What happens first? Clemson
wins a playoff game or are they part ways with
Dabo Swinney?

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I don't know the inner workings there. I don't. But
That's a lot of money with the payout here.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
It'd be $ 50 million at least.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
I mean, you'll negotiate that, but.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
As good a coach as Dabo has been, I at
least have to lean towards him making the playoffs. But
if you said today, I would say they would move
on from Dabo Sweeney, that that would happen before they're
going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yes, Dylan.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
With the whole buyout situation, we brought up the Penn
State James Franklin thing earlier, and the stipulation was if
he gets another job, it drops significantly, but in that
hiring cycle. So why, if you're a coach, obviously I
imagine your name kind of moves further down the list
if you're out of the running for a year, but
chill for a year and take the extra $ 40 million

(12:03):
from Penn State to do nothing and then try and
reenter that.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, but how long does that last, though? James Franklin
took the Virginia Tech job Instead of $ 49 million, it
became $ 9 million because he took another job. If you
sit out for a year, does that mean you get
to keep all the money?

Speaker 6 (12:24):
I'll have to confirm, but that was my understanding was
basically like in this upcoming hiring cycle, whatever year, however
you want to call it, I.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Think that was the... So only one year? I believe so.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
You sit out one year and you're going to make
$ 49 million instead of nine to then coach at Virginia Tech.
Which seems like a no-brainer that you would just chill for.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
A year, right? Yes.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
We've seen coaches take a couple of years off and
then go back in. That just seems like good business sense. Now,
Virginia Tech wouldn't be open some other job unless he goes, boy,
I can't pass up Virginia Tech.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Which probably wasn't the case, I'm guessing. I don't think
that was the case. Yes, Todd.

Speaker 10 (13:11):
And after one year, I don't think any coach, anyone
who has a decent reputation falls off the face of
the earth where no one's going to be interested after
one year at decent school and trying to hire him.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Yes, Paul.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
So James Franklin, original buyout at Penn State was $ 49 million.
When he decided it would have gone through 2031, even
by taking the Virginia Tech job, it would only offset
so much money of that because it's a lesser deal.
But they, after he took the job, negotiated it down
to $ 9 million, and then he can move on with

(13:40):
his way.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
He would have to sit out to 2031 to get
all the $ 49 million?

Speaker 5 (13:48):
He would have gotten it in a combination of who
he's being paid by at another school. If he just sits,
he gets all $ 49 million, yes.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
But he can't take a job until after 2031.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Once he takes that job, the job pay offsets the $ 49.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
So if he took.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Dartmouth, for a million, it only takes a million off.
But by taking a big one, it offset most of it.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Andrew in Washington. Hi, Andrew. What do you have for me?

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Good morning, Dan.

Speaker 11 (14:18):
Thanks for taking my call. I'll gladly do nothing for
$ 49 million, even if it means I don't get another
coaching job. I think that's generational money. But anyways, best
and worst of the weekend. My worst was last night.
Florida State's loss to SMU 27-24, even though they won
the turnover battle last.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Four to nothing.

Speaker 11 (14:35):
That only happened one time last year when a team
won but lost a turnover battle by four. But my best,
the Red Sox keep rolling with a win, improving to
a Major League best 34-17 since the All-Star break, and
only two games behind the hated Yankees for the AL's
top wildcard spot.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
I do have a question, though, Dan.

Speaker 11 (14:53):
Are all of these college NIL deals.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
guaranteed money.

Speaker 11 (14:57):
We talked about all this money that's been given to
Bryce Underwood. Could they just retract it and say, hey, look,
we're going to go ahead and cut ties with you?
We don't really know the legality of this, and we've
seen them go to court, but what's your understanding of
these NIL deals and if they're guaranteed?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
What I was told, but I don't know if it
still holds up, these are all year to year, and
there's renewals in that. I think that that is with
most of these, or at least it should be. If
I'm going to give you four years at $ 12 million,
Shame on me. I'm going to give you four years,
but I'm going to give you $ 3 million each year.

(15:34):
Or maybe, you know, it increases with each year you stay.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
And now you're going to see this going forward with
Underwood underperforming. You can kind of see now where the
coach is saying, you know what? We're going to go
with adults. We're not going to go with the five-star freshman.
We're going to keep going with adults, the Carson Becks,
the Fernando Mendozas that have succeeded elsewhere also.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Well, this is what Miami did.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Miami, you know, they went after Cam Ward, Carson Beck,
and now Darian Mensah. These are all proven commodities. All right,
we'll take a break. Gerald McCoy on loan from NFL
Network will join us. Chris Fowler doing college football and U.S.
Open will join us in a little less than an
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Speaker 2 (17:00):
Updated odds for the Heisman, Darian Mensah of Miami.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Then it's Arch Manning. Jeremiah Smith had a weekend.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
C.J.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Carr looked okay for Notre Dame. Malachi Toney had an
unbelievable performance for the U. Dante Moore, Trinidad Shamless, Julian Sayen,
Sam Levitt. He had a great performance. The updated title odds,
Ohio State, and then it's Notre Dame. Then it's Texas, Georgia, Miami, Florida, Indiana, Oregon, LSU.

(17:35):
I'd probably throw, I don't know, little money on Miami
if I gambled, for entertainment purposes only. But at plus 900,
Ohio State's at plus 550. Texas Tech, Texas A & M,
and Alabama State. Rounding out the list there.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yes, Dylan.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
Do you want a little courtesy sprinkle on Miami?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
It's not you're not.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
No, because then it's I'm I'm gambling through you and
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
OK, I'm your surrogate. You're trying.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I know you're trying. You're trying to give birth to
me coming back and gambling. I don't want any part
of it. Gerald McCoy, one of our favorites, NFL Network
analyst and longtime NFL defensive tackle. He is, of course,
drafted out of Oklahoma, third overall, joining us on the program.
How nervous are you with the clock operator with the

(18:25):
Michigan game, with your Sooners?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Playing in Ann Arbor.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
First off, Uncle Dan, thanks for having me back. I
always love when you invite me back.

Speaker 9 (18:38):
I live so far away, so this is the only
way that I get to see my uncle, my distant uncle. So,
Uncle Dan, thank you for having me. I'm not worried
about the clock operator. We're not going to make this
thing close. I already talked to the guys. We're going
to make this clear, and I'm going to let Rich
know that when I see him later.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
And I was listening to Before, of all those.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
Teams and all the odds and all this, and I
did not hear, I heard Ohio.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
I didn't hear Oklahoma. I didn't hear John Mateer. And
this is excellent.

Speaker 9 (19:08):
I love that nobody is thinking about us.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
That is exactly where we want to be.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
So whoever wrote that, whoever came up with that, you
know what?

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Thank you. Good morning. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
That's updated from DraftKings this morning there, but no.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Thank you, DraftKings.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, Oklahoma and your quarterback, underrated perhaps, and you probably,
you're fine with that.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'm perfectly fine with it. I'm just fine with it.

Speaker 9 (19:36):
We're going to the big house, I guess, if that's
what they, you know, what they want it to be.
And we'll put everybody on the stand, and then we'll
just go week to week.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
So we good where we at.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
You expect Aaron Donald to play this week?

Speaker 4 (19:52):
No. If he plays, it would be great.

Speaker 9 (19:56):
But I believe that signing him was because it's something
they had to get.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Out of the way.

Speaker 9 (20:02):
But one thing you don't want to do is rush
him out there because you know that December, January is
what matters the most. You know, you want to put
yourself in a great spot by the time you get to.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
December, January.

Speaker 9 (20:14):
But Aaron Donald, what he did, you know, taking over
the Tampa game And then taking over the Super Bowl
when they wanted his greatness, you needed to flash when
you needed to flash. And there's no need to rush
him out. They signed him to get him on the team.
Now he's getting into practice, getting in the swing of
sitting in meetings again and getting up and going to practice.

(20:37):
If he plays this week, it will be very sparingly,
but I expect to see him either next week or
the week after.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think you're on record. Did you say he's the
best defensive player you ever saw?

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
What puts him over Reggie White or Mean Joe Green
or Lawrence Taylor? I know it's your opinion, but.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Right, right.

Speaker 9 (20:56):
Yeah, for me, and I love whoever anybody has because
we're speaking of greatness. And I believe in today's era,
we've got the greatness fatigue where people can be so
great that we start coming up with.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Reasons why they are not as good or not as great.
You're like, oh, this person is dominating so much. Let's
talk about this person.

Speaker 9 (21:17):
So anytime somebody picks anybody, I love it because we're
discussing greatness. But to answer your question, my reason being
is because Aaron Donald is not supposed to be doing
what he does to grow men at the size he is.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
I don't know if anybody's ever if you see him
on the field, he looks smaller.

Speaker 9 (21:35):
But if you've ever seen him in person, you say
that's the guy that's doing this to everybody.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
He's extremely fast. He's very explosive.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
He's strong, but his intelligence and his size, his ability
to take on double teams, to be able to switch
his stance and know what's coming, to play the run
at a high level, rush the passer at a high level.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
He just does everything. He can play inside. He can
play outside. He can do it all. He can play
at the nose. He can play three techniques. He can
play at the end.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
He just does everything, and he's done it at a
high level, and he's done it since he touched the league.
A lot of people are great, but from the time
you step foot in the NFL to the time you
leave to do it at the level you did it,
it was amazing to me at the size that.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
He's done it.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
How violent is in the trenches, certainly when you're playing
nose tackle? You guys hit something or get hit every
single play.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah, you do.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
But how violent would you say?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
We see the plays outside, but inside, it just feels
like it's hand-to-hand combat every single play.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
It is, and that's why people call me crazy for
not wearing gloves. You know, I didn't wear gloves, but
I had to pay for it. Look at my fingers.
My fingers are all– my hands are all– they're all sideways.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
I got scars all over.

Speaker 9 (22:57):
It is what it is, but that's why I say
to play football, you got to have a screw loose.
But to play D-line or O-line, you got to really–
really like has to be something wrong with you to
want to do that every single play. Like wide receivers
is glamorous, but you may not get the ball. It's
a very dependent position. DD is probably the hardest position

(23:19):
to play because you have to guard every Jamar Chase
is running backwards. That's very difficult. Quarterback is the most important,
but the most grueling is D-line, O-line, because you are
getting hit every play, and your hands are getting beat up,
your arms are getting beat up, you hyperextend to your knee,
and you got to get right up and get back
to it. There's a lot that goes on down there

(23:40):
that people don't see. And your.
Like margin for error is very, very, very small because
it happens that fast. It happens so fast. One wrong
step and you're out of there. So it's a difficult
position to play on both sides. D-line more because the O-line,
they have help. You know, it's us versus could be one,

(24:03):
could be two. Aaron Donald could be three.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Did your wife say, why don't you get your ring
finger fixed?

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (24:14):
She wanted me to, because she wanted me to wear
my original wedding ring. And I thought about getting it.
I had a teammate that had his, his finger was
messed up and he got his original wedding ring cut
in half to wear it. And then they put a
clamp on it so he could open it up and
put it on.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
But I was like, you know what?

Speaker 9 (24:30):
I'm not risking losing that and going through all that.
I'm going to just get these rubber rings. I got
a bag full of these. As long as I got
something over here, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
You know?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Why is Seattle... Under the radar.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Because... Last, Seattle is not a, even if you think
about when they had the Legion of Gold, that era,
they came out of nowhere and they had.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
To do it multiple years before we were like, hey,
Seattle is one of those teams.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Sometimes you have teams where they come out of nowhere.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
Because nobody went to last season and said Seattle was
one of those teams. Sam Darnold was still the quarterback.
We wasn't really sure about the defense. Well, now we
got guys being paid on the defense and we know
who they are, but They lost their running back.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
And it's kind of just.

Speaker 9 (25:18):
Like a, I mean, they were a couple plays away from,
they just haven't established themselves as one of those teams yet.
So it's always going to be a question mark until
they show us, hey, no, we can do this again.
We can be a competitor, you know, year in and
year out. So it happens with teams like that. It
even took the Legion of Boom a couple years before

(25:41):
we was like, hey, always mention CF.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Talking to Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst and six-time Pro Bowler,
first-round pick by the Buccaneers. More likely to get back
to the Super Bowl, the Patriots or Seattle?

Speaker 10 (25:56):
Seattle.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Oh. Yeah, Seattle. The Patriots run was great, but I can't.
I can't act like they didn't have the record that
they had and I didn't see what I've seen in
the playoffs. They played good enough to get there, but

(26:19):
there are a lot of caveats in there.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
And I never want to discredit people for getting to
the Super Bowl because I never play in the playoff game.
So this is somebody that would have dreamed to have
what The New England Patriots just say, I don't care
about the schedule.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
I don't care about how we got there. We got there.

Speaker 9 (26:36):
But when we talk about likelihood of getting back, you
have to.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Look at their path of how they got there. Their
schedule was very weak. The weakest, actually.

Speaker 9 (26:45):
And then if we look at how Drake may play
in the playoffs, it wasn't great. And then they run
into Denver, who didn't have a starting quarterback. And it's
like the defense played really well, but the offense just
wasn't clicking.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
And you add an A.J. Brown and it's like, oh, well,
this is.

Speaker 9 (27:02):
Going to change life. Well, we don't know that because
we don't know the adversity if they can push through it.
We know Mike Bray was a very, very, very good
coach because he's had good teams at every stop he's
been at. But likelihood out of the two, I have
to go with Seattle because of the path of the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Quarterback always gets the cheerleader, but Do nose tackles have
groupies or, you know, that they show up, you know,
that they fan club?

Speaker 4 (27:32):
I'm sure Aaron Donald does. He's in L.A.

Speaker 9 (27:35):
I mean, this is Los Angeles. We know how Los
Angeles goes.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
And he's, you know, I don't know. I mean, defensive
end to get it a little more, you know, Aaron.

Speaker 9 (27:48):
Donald's an anomaly. I know Warren Sapp did.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
First ballot with that, huh?

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yes.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
He was doing L.A. work in Tampa.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (28:11):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
That was that was different. That's what I always say.
People like, man, this guy's like this. He's like this.
He's like that. Man, Warren Sapp is one of the.

Speaker 9 (28:24):
If I ever have to stab people in my career
where I'm like that person. I can't tell my story
without that person. Warren Sapp is one of those people.
So for me, I don't see Sapp how everybody else
sees him. You know, Sapp sees himself how he sees himself.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
He just is him. That's what I say.

Speaker 9 (28:43):
Sapp is just Sapp. A lot of people feel about
him the way they do. But to me, Sapp is
just Sapp. He's just a big, big bro to me.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Who was better than you thought, like a skilled position
offensive player? Where once you played, you go, wow, they
lived up to the hype.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Skill position?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Like wide receiver, running back, quarterback.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Le'Veon Bell. Le'Veon Bell, yeah. I played a lot of guys,
but to see his patience... and how he ran the ball.
You know, you watch him play.

Speaker 9 (29:24):
He don't look as fast as he is. He's extremely fast.
You know, he can run. He's not like 4'2, 4'3, speed,
but he's hard.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
To catch it.

Speaker 9 (29:34):
When he's in the hole, you have to be extremely
disciplined with him.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
You have to be very, very disciplined with him.

Speaker 9 (29:43):
And another person I played that wasn't NFL when I
played him, I might have played in the NFL, but
one of the players I played in my career that's
one of the best football players.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
I've ever played against is Percy Harvey. He's one of
those people that If.

Speaker 9 (30:02):
He could have stayed healthy, kept his head on straight,
he would have been one of those.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Guys we talked about for years to come. But anybody,
you just look up Percy Hartman and listen to how
people talk about him, and you'll know I'm telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
You got any beef with anybody after the fact that
you picked him?

Speaker 4 (30:21):
No, I'm too nice of a guy.

Speaker 9 (30:23):
I'm the guy who's asking people that they go to
chapel when fights break up.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I'm the guy who said, hey, so nobody got to
be with the church this morning. That's me. You know,
like I had, if you see me pushing back.

Speaker 9 (30:35):
And forth with somebody that's in the midst of football,
but I'm such a nice dude. Even so, there's a
clip of me with Ryan Jensen and.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
We were pushing back and forth when I was with Carolina.
He was with Tampa.

Speaker 9 (30:48):
Man, me and Ryan talked on the phone after this.
not that day, but before we played again.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Or after we played the second time.

Speaker 9 (30:55):
And then, uh, Me and Jason Light, we talked, had
our conversation before I played Tampa.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
I'm just too nice of a guy, man. Like football,
I never could play angry. And if you go look
at my performance.

Speaker 9 (31:09):
In the first time I played Tampa and the second
time I played Tampa, I had this false anger of like, oh,
they treated me away and this and this. And I
came into the game like I got a point to prove.
I've never played a good game where I was angry, ever.
I've never been angry and played a good game. I've
been motivated and played great games. But go look at

(31:29):
my performance versus Tampa, the first game versus the second game.
It's completely different because I went into the second game skipping,
having a good time, hugging everybody in Tampa.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Come here, Jason. Come here, Levante. Oh, I love y'all.
I miss y'all boys, man. And then I just went
and played football. So I don't have beef with people, man.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Like, I don't.

Speaker 9 (31:49):
Olami used to tell me, stop being nice.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
It's difficult. I'm trying to do my job. Stop being nice.
I need you to stop this.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
But how do you explain, like, Troy Polamalu is one
of the nicest people, softest voices, and he gets on
a football field, and he's just a different person.

Speaker 9 (32:11):
You know, it is it is because the game has
to be played a certain way. Like you have to
play the game a certain way if you want to
be able to compete with the greatest athletes in the world.
So you have some people who are not only the
greatest athletes in the world, but the best professionals.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
And this is Jackson.

Speaker 9 (32:29):
I used to call him the ultimate pro because when
he did off the field to prepare for games, And
then how he played the game, how he practiced. You
have some people who are like that, but then they
are phenomenal athletes at that. And then some people play angry.
So in order to compete with these level of football players,
you have to play the game a certain way. You

(32:51):
don't have to be angry. Some people play angry. I
always tell people to find your why.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Why are you doing this? Is it your family? Do
you want money? Do you want to be living the L.A.
life in Tampa? What do you want to be doing?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
It's just like, what is your motivation?

Speaker 9 (33:07):
Whatever that is, you take that across those white lines
and you play the game the right way. I'm trying
to teach my son that right now. He's 11, 7th grade,
and he's just now starting. He's been playing football, but
he's just now starting school ball, and I've been trying
to preach to him, son, I shouldn't have to tell
you to be more violent.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
I shouldn't have to.

Speaker 9 (33:26):
There's one way to play this game, and you don't
have to be angry or pissed off to do it.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
This is just how it's supposed to be played, and
that's how I was, and that's how Troy Balboa was.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Great to see you again. I'll see you at the cookout.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yes, Uncle Dan.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah. We'll talk to you during the season.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
I appreciate it. Please have me back. You know I
always love.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
To see my uncle, man. Hey, great seeing you in person.
We got to see you in San Francisco.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
I know.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
It was great.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Yeah. It was great.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Thank you. Great to talk to you again.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Thanks, brother.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
That's Gerald McCoy.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
He was third pick overall 2010 out of Oklahoma. Yeah,
that heaping praise on Aaron Donald. but also Warren Sapp,
who played the same position. All right, we'll take a break.
Our best and worst of the weekend. We'll have that
for you coming up. And more of your phone calls
right after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

(34:21):
talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows
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listen live. I mentioned a week ago, maybe, I had
not seen The Matrix. I'd seen clips of The Matrix.
And then I said that I was going to make
an effort to watch The Matrix. I was asked by

(34:43):
Big Day Ray, one of our producers, yesterday, and I said,
I'm 31 minutes in with The Matrix. And he said,
I thought you were 31 minutes in before.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
I said, I am.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
But I will get around to it where I'll watch
the entire Matrix. I won't watch The Godfather. I won't
watch the original Star Wars. I've never seen Star Trek.
They're just certain ones that are non-starters.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yes, Paul?

Speaker 5 (35:11):
I think your window, all of our window to catch
up on things like movies and TV shows is over
until March. We should be focused on football, and when
there's no football, maybe say hi to the family or
do something.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, but I had a downtime in August, and I
still couldn't find time. I mean, I did have to
prepare for the wedding of the century, but there was
downtime there.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yes, Martin?

Speaker 7 (35:32):
Over the weekend, I saw a Keanu Reeves movie that
I had never seen before called And forgive me, I
am ashamed that I've never seen it. It's probably what
he's best known for, besides The Matrix.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Okay. Yeah, Paul?

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Point Break? That's a really good guess, but no. Bill
and Ted's Excellent Adventure?

Speaker 4 (35:52):
No.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
It's got America's Sweetheart in it. Sandra Bullock and Speed?

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Who was prettier?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Good question.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
I did pose that question to my wife.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I said, who's prettier? She goes, I would say Sandy is.
She's really pretty in speed. I said, well, Canu, he's pretty, pretty.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Yes, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
I'm going to call my shot here.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
I don't think you ever finished The Matrix.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
You don't think I ever do? I'm sorry, Dan. I
don't believe in you.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
All right.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Well, now being a competitor. There we go. I'm going
to finish it right after the show.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yes, Todd.

Speaker 10 (36:32):
And what better way to watch a movie in 20
to 30 minute blocks like it's meant to be seen?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Thank you, Todd.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Thank you, Todd.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Let's go around the room, best and worst of the weekend. Todd,
I'll start with you. Somebody spent a lot of time
watching U.S. Open tennis, and then I found you were
only watching the women's matches.

Speaker 10 (36:48):
Yeah, best of the weekend, the Baylor-Auburn game Saturday. The
Bears got a late touchdown to cut the Tigers.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Lead to one.

Speaker 10 (36:54):
Go for a win or lose two-point conversion, but Auburn's
Eric Winters makes a dramatic game-saving tackle at the goal
line to hold on for a 17-16 victory.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Worst.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Third round of the U.S.

Speaker 10 (37:03):
Open, Sally Madison Keys led five games to none in
the final set.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
She had also won the first set 6-1.

Speaker 10 (37:09):
Including a match point situation, several enforced errors contributed to
her losing the next seven straight games to lose that match.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. Dylan.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Alrighty, my best The Premier Lacrosse League semifinals, Dan, over
the weekend, the Waterdogs beat the Cannons to advance to
the championship. Their head coach, former head coach of my
Harvard of the West University of Denver Pioneers. And my
other best, Taylor Heineke, remember that guy? Jersey retired by
Old Dominion, the first Jersey in program history to be

(37:43):
retired on Saturday in front of 22,000.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
That's nice. I like that.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
That's nice. Marvin, best and worst.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
Best of the weekend. I was at this game on Saturday.
Army football. 569 rushing yards. I know it was against Bryant,
but still, they ran the ball like crazy. Worst of
the weekend? Man, what happened to Wisconsin? We talked about
it on Friday. Man, they have just fallen from grace.
49-41-13 against Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Matt Lambeau. Luke Fickle. Paul, best and worst.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
I'll go Iowa Hawkeyes defense. 40-0 over Northern Illinois. Iowa
took care of the overall by themselves. And in a loss,
Louisville quarterback Lincoln Keinholz. He's really good.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Tough player. Zach in Knoxville. Hi, Zach. Best and worst. Hey, DP.

Speaker 12 (38:27):
Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
My worst of the weekend actually led to my best
of the weekend.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
I don't know if you saw this in the MLB, but.

Speaker 8 (38:37):
Ansel Rincon was making his debut for the Cardinals, and
umpire Doug Eddings told him in the middle of an
at-bat to adjust his hat. It was sideways and a
little crooked, kind of like CeCe Sabathia. And then the
best is the next day, all of the Cardinals were

(38:58):
wearing their hats a little bit askew.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, that was funny. Ryan in Detroit.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Hi, Ryan.

Speaker 8 (39:06):
Hey, Dan.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Thanks for calling me back.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (39:09):
As a proud Western Michigan alumni, these regional mid-American versus
Big Ten matchups are so big. If we ever get
a win in football, it's life-changing for the school and
the fans. But it got my friends and I with
about nine seconds left in the game. This is going

(39:32):
to be a bigger win against Michigan football than us
winning the national championship in hockey. And I wanted to
see what your thoughts were on that topic.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Well, I mean, I don't know the impact of winning
a national title in hockey. but I'll take your word
for it. Beating Michigan at Michigan. I don't think any
team in Michigan has ever beaten Michigan. Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan,
Western Michigan.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah, Paul.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Western Michigan received $ 1. 5 million. What's really kind of the bummer,
Western Michigan is scheduled to return to Ann Arbor in 2029.
That would have been a nice one.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
They'll still be talking about it. Still be talking about it.
Chris Fowler, he's calling college football and U.S. Open at
the same time. Chris will join us coming up. Top
of the hour, more of your phone calls as well.
Best and worst of the weekend, what you saw that
you liked, you didn't like. NFL opens up tomorrow. Patriots
at the Seahawks. What's the number on that one, Dylan?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Checking.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
One moment.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I would think Seattle by five and a half.

Speaker 6 (40:44):
No, by three.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Oh, I had a little surprise with that. Todd is
going in the confessional. You've been warned. Two hours in
the books on this Tuesday with Todd and Dylan, Marv, Paulie,
yours truly. Chris Fowler will join us coming up right
around the corner. We'll get to your phone calls as well.
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