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September 30, 2026 • 40 mins

Dan and the Danettes weigh in on the career of Odell Beckham Jr. after he was cut from the NY Giants roster. And former NFL standout and current analyst, Devin McCourty stops by to talk some pigskin.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Dylan in the back row, Marva up front with Paula,
yours truly, and the backroom guys as well. Yes, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Todd has been, I haven't known Todd as long as
you guys have, but Todd seems to have been on
a pretty legendary doctor's visit run.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Would you agree with that, Todd?

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Yes, because I had an ear infection and then my
throat was bothering me and I went to an ENT
because I didn't like the answer I was getting from
my primary care physician. And I got the dermatologist. I
had a gastroenterologist appointment last week.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
All regular checkups.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
But, you know, for someone that's not 80 or 90
years old, that's a lot of appointments.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
But you didn't like the answer that a doctor gave you,
so you went to another doctor. Sometimes you need a
second opinion.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I got that from my mother. This doctor can't be right.
There's got to be something wrong with you. I'm going
to ask someone else.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Stat of the Day, brought to you by Panini America,
the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. A
lot of baseball yesterday. And last night, a lot of
baseball today and tonight. The postseason continues. NBC and Peacock.
Phillies Braves again. White Sox Astros. Primetime Red Sox Yankees.
Cubs Padres. Baseball wild card today and tonight on NBC

(01:06):
and Peacock. Man, the Padres game. That crowd. That crowd
was electric. Not literally, but it was alive. Unlike the Astros.
There was really no ambiance. But sometimes you get that.
And you're not selling out games. You know, Atlanta didn't
sell out its game. What was the other game that

(01:28):
Astros didn't sell out? And it's a best of three.
Three consecutive games in the same ballpark. And best two
out of three. Yes, Todd?

Speaker 6 (01:38):
The Astros were banging cans, not for cheating. They just
wanted to bring some noise to the ballpark.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
It was just way too quiet. What's the poll question
for hour two? Dylan? Well, let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Last night, I watched the MLB playoffs, NHL opening day,
WNBA playoffs, or none of the above.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, I'm probably in the camp with Paulie. Paulie has
three TVs. You could watch, you know, obviously three different
things going on there. But I was in the basement
where I have just a small TV, and I was
flipping back and forth. Yeah, I'm a flipper, too.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
I'll usually do maybe a laptop with something, but usually
I'll just.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Kind of bounce.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I don't have the attention span anymore. I don't know
if I ever did, but I'm like, all right, I'm
going to watch that, and then now I'm going to
flip over. And then I'm going to flip over. And
then I might stop by to see, you know, if a...
Dateline has an interesting story. Yes, Hunt?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
So is the red zone just a definite no-no for
you if you like to just kind of watch one thing,
the distraction of it bouncing every five seconds to a
different game?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
No, the red zone's great.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
Yeah, but you're.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Being bounced around.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
It sounds like you've got to kind of focus on
one thing.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
No, I can't.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
He just said.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I said I don't have an attention span.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, but I thought that's why you should have the
one TV, because if you had three TVs, wouldn't that
be too much of an overload to try to follow
three games at once? That's the way I thought you
meant that.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
You know what a tension span is, though? That's a
moment I'm not having right now with you. No, I
don't have a long attention span. Therefore, the red zone
is perfect for me, because Scott Hansen bounces around.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
So why don't you do the multiple TV basement man
cave thing? Because you don't have that much of an
attention span. Then you can just kind of keep looking
at all these different games at once instead of being
forced to watch one thing on your one TV in
the basement.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Because I had to spend money on your salary.

Speaker 7 (03:31):
Oh, is that what it is?

Speaker 4 (03:33):
I apologize that I screwed up your whole man cave.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
So if I can take money away from you.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
And you can have it.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Are you okay with that?

Speaker 4 (03:39):
We'll talk backstage. We'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, no.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Let's just air it all out here.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, I'm a little too selfish to have to worry
about your three or four TVs.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
I've got bills to pay.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Todd may have invented something, Homemade Red Zone, where you
just have the three TVs.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
And you do manually move your head around. How about
I have seven TVs and then I have my own
red zone there?

Speaker 7 (04:02):
Perfect.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
I don't want to put Scott Hanson out of business,
but you can do it yourself or do.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
It yourself or... Yeah, I'm good with just bouncing around.
Give me a little bit here, a little bit there.
That's all. I don't need to because I don't have
a team where I go, I got to watch every
snap with my team. I'm watching for the highlights. Now, sometimes,
you know, you get that four o'clock game, 430 game,
and then you'll lock into that. I watch most of

(04:26):
the Ravens and the Cowboys. But, you know, for the
most part, if it's a standalone game like tomorrow night,
I'm going to be watching that game. The Browns and
the Steelers. Steelers are favored by two and a half
in Cleveland. Imagine if Cleveland goes up to three and one.
Do we then have to actually look at them and go, OK,

(04:49):
because we should be doing that with the Raiders, but
we're not. We're like, well, I don't know. But they're
three and oh, they did exactly what you would want
your team to do. But I know it feels like,
all right, 3-0, they might end up with a 3-14 record.
But for the time being, Brock Bowers is back. Kirk D.
Cousins has played well. You've got to give him credit.

(05:13):
I do worry about the Ashton Gentry draft pick. I
loved him in college. He ran hard after first contact,
but I don't know. A little nervous about that. Yes, Marvin?

Speaker 6 (05:27):
I'm going to say.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
5-0.

Speaker 8 (05:29):
5-0, I'll really start to pay attention to the Raiders
as a real threat to possibly... No.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
If they beat the Chiefs and they go to 4-0,
then you got to at least acknowledge that this is
a nice month of football for them.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
So I didn't know they played the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
So they're going to the Super Bowl if they beat
the Chiefs this week.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Okay. Might be a little jump to conclusion. Yes, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I agree with you about the gentee thing, mainly because
I don't want... Stuff like that will scare teams out
of taking running backs high in the future, even if
it is what's right for your franchise.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
I think that can have longer ramifications. Yes, Paul.

Speaker 9 (06:10):
The Raiders took a running back in the top 10
before dealing with their offensive line.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
They went in the reverse order.

Speaker 9 (06:16):
As a strategy, that's a lot of money to spend
on a running back.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
He's averaging... 3.3.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yards a carry.

Speaker 9 (06:23):
Last year was 3.7 yards per carry.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
The rest of the team is doing well. Odell Beckham Jr.,
the third, got released. I don't know what happens after
three games where all of a sudden you go, you know,
that guy can't help us. But John Harbaugh brought Odell
Beckham Jr. in, and you can't help but think back
what could have been. 2014, 12 games, 12 touchdowns. 2015,

(06:51):
He had 96 catches in 15 games, 13 touchdowns. 2016,
16 games, 101 catches, 10 touchdowns. Even in Cleveland, he
had 1,000 yards and four touchdowns. That was his best season.
In the Super Bowl, he was en route to winning

(07:12):
the MVP, two catches, 52 yards, and a touchdown before
getting hurt. And then we find out he played... He
played in the Super Bowl without an ACL. He went
to a doctor and he said, you basically don't have
an ACL. And the doctor offered to redo surgery. And

(07:33):
then Odell Beckham declined because he wanted to continue the
season and try to win a championship. He knew months
before the Super Bowl, he did not have a functioning ACL.
He will be in the... hall of very good or
what could have been. And somebody who made it look

(07:58):
not only easy, but entertaining. He gave you a degree
of difficulty. Even if it wasn't difficult, he still made
it look tougher than what it should have been sometimes.
But then other times when you go, he is just
so fluid, so natural. Like there are certain people where
you go, he was meant to do this. And it's

(08:22):
like when I first saw Pete Maravich shoot a basketball,
I go, he's meant to do this. Like that ball
is meant to be in his hands. And OBJ running
past patterns and catching, he was just meant to do
that in what could have been. But I don't know
if he'll get picked up. I think there was hope

(08:42):
that maybe he would get a chance, but he got
released yesterday. Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 8 (08:46):
It was a perfect storm for Odell because he looked
like a star, and then he had one of the
greatest catches in the history of football, playing the Cowboys,
Sunday night football at MetLife, and scores a touchdown. I mean,
it was the perfect storm for him to become a star.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And he took advantage of that for a while. Because
if you're going to be a star and be famous,
you've got to parlay that into dating a Kardashian.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's what he did. Yes, Marvin?

Speaker 6 (09:14):
A lot of them did that.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yes, they did.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
I mean, Miles Austin had two good games and dated
a Kardashian.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
He did.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah, he dated Kim for a little bit.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
My man had three good games.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay. And maybe he had game, too.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
Play of the month.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
That man wasn't turning anything down but his collar. I
respect it.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I got to believe that Kim Kardashian must be a
really big sports fan. But she probably watches sports differently
than we do. He's cute. He's not. He's cute. Who's he? Yeah,
I think that's probably. Now she's into Formula One. Lewis Hamilton. Really?

Speaker 7 (09:53):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, dating Lewis Hamilton. Yeah, got him out of the cockpit.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
She's done with America.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
She's going overseas. Vroom, vroom. Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 8 (10:06):
But all the Kardashian-Jenners, they might watch this as a family.
Because Kendall's got an NBA pass. Khloe's got NBA kids.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
League pass.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Is that her nickname? League Pass?

Speaker 10 (10:19):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
League Pass. What happened? What happened about that? No offense. Yeah.
Seemed like fine people.

Speaker 10 (10:30):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
They made guys famous, too. I mean, Chris Humphries. My
wife knows who Tristan Thompson is. I was like, how
do you even know who that is? She was like, well,
I don't watch Cavaliers basketball. Obviously, she's married to Chloe.
Got a couple of kids with Chloe.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
He does.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
I believe. Yes.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes, Dylan. I don't think there's been any hockey players
in the mix yet. Season just started. Formula One is
still going on right now for Lewis Hamilton. In season. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
I don't know what happens if comes Stanley Cup playoff time.

(11:08):
I think she thought about dating Doc Emmerich, which is weird. But,
you know, that's just me.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
The voice.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, I love the voice. Yes, Todd.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
The F1 thing is probably just a pit stop, and
then you'll go back.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
To the NBA.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Okay. All right.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
See what you did with that. Pit stop. Thank you, Todd.
Let me see. We pass. Sorry.

Speaker 7 (11:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Steelers minus two and a half at the Browns. We'll
talk to Devin McCourty on loan from Football Night America.
Coming up, Jason in Texas leads us off this hour.
Good morning, Jason.

Speaker 7 (11:40):
Hey, D.P., how are you guys doing today, man? Five,
ten and a half, a solid 218. Solid. I've been
listening to you guys for years, so I've never gotten
through on a phone call, so I'm pretty excited today.
I just want to share something with you. You talked
about Matt Stafford and Clayton Kershaw. When I was in
high school... I actually was on the football field with

(12:03):
both of them at the same time as a freshman.
And my junior year in high school, Matt Stafford annihilated
us in a state championship game, 57 to nothing. So
I used to hate Matt Stafford, and then he won
a Super Bowl. So now I can say, well, he
beat us, but that guy won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I have something for you.

Speaker 7 (12:24):
Yeah. What do the Texans need to do?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I'm a diehard Texan fan.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
Win.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's it. Win ugly. Maybe score more and maybe play
some defense. The defense part of this, that's really the
strange thing. And I'm going to talk to Jason McCourty
about that. I did it. I did it. It's Devin McCourty,
not Jason McCourty. They get confused, I think, by other

(12:54):
people as well.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
Yes, Todd?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
You could ask Jason McCoy to be after the show.
You should probably start with Devin, the actual guest.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Thank you, Todd. Thank you. But I'm going to ask
him about this with the Texans because of the defense.
I thought that's a no-brainer. Offense, I was going to
have question marks about. Yes, Marvin?

Speaker 8 (13:10):
Boy, it's going to be awkward this offseason. If they
have a bad year with C.J. Stroud as far as
contract talks and any type of extension. And you're playing
the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
It's the Battle of Texas. Yes, Paul.

Speaker 9 (13:22):
But the only silver lining for the Texans is, it's
not really good, but if C.J. Stroud continues to be average,
they're not giving him $ 300 million and locked into him.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Zach in Knoxville. Hi, Zach. What do you have for
me today? Hey, Pete.

Speaker 11 (13:36):
Thanks for taking my call. Speaking of missed opportunities, Aja
Wilson last night and... That's probably leading the headlines of
the WNBA.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Instead of the playoffs.

Speaker 11 (13:49):
Is this league ever going to be able to get
out of their own way?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
There's a lot of media folks. You probably would refer
to them or they would like to be referred to
as influencers. And we have people who tend to focus
on the ancillary stuff, not the actual game itself. Because
Kaitlin Clark was unbelievable. She had 27 and 15 in

(14:15):
an elimination game. Aaliyah Boston, she did a great job
on Asia Wilson. And I think Wilson, I think she
was being banged around, bumped into, and there was. Now,
Asia Wilson knocks over Sophie Cunningham. And a member of
the crowd gets up and starts pointing at Asia Wilson.

(14:36):
She starts to make a move towards him. Then he
quickly sits down. But I don't know what was said.
But yes, that will be a focal point today, I'm sure,
by a lot of people. And that's why I always
challenge them. Tell me when you talk about the actual
game itself, because the Liberty are the eighth seed. They

(14:57):
knocked off the number one seed, Minnesota Lynx. And imagine
how dangerous Liberty, the Liberty right now, I think are
the favorites to win the title. Let me see if
I have this. So let me see if I've got
my DraftKings on.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Odds to win the title. The New York Liberty, followed
by the Aces, the Valkyries, the Dream, then it's the Fever.
You've got four teams. Dream, Valkyries, Aces, and Liberty. Pretty
tight there. But here's an eighth seed. But experience with
INSQ and Stewie. And they picked up the win, knocking

(15:37):
out the Lynx. And my girl, Olivia Miles, rookie of
the year. But she looked tired. She looked really tired
in that game. All righty, let's take a break. We'll
talk some football with one of the McCourty brothers. I'm
not sure who. I don't know who Todd booked, but
you know what?

Speaker 6 (15:54):
We're going to go with Devin today.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Devin today. How about we take a break? We're back
after this Dan Patrick show.

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Speaker 12 (16:11):
Stugatz here, pleased to be hosting college football with Stugatz
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You can expect a little bit of this. Will Stein,
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Speaker 2 (16:28):
Will or will not?

Speaker 6 (16:29):
No.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Will not.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Ketchup on steak.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Will or will not?

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Will not.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Thank you. A little bit of this.

Speaker 12 (16:38):
Rhys Davis, host of College Game Day, is with us now.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
And then I'm going home to the BBC, and they're
saying Jockovich instead of Jokovich.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Right, because you can't say Jockovich.

Speaker 12 (16:48):
If you do, you know the blowback you're going to
get from the American audience.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
And a whole lot of this.

Speaker 12 (16:59):
Listen to college football with Stugatz and the Bear on
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Speaker 5 (17:05):
You get your podcasts.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Who has it better than we do?

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Nobody.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
By the way, Chicago White Sox shortstop Colson Montgomery, his
first career postseason home run last night. Keep in mind,
he set the single season record. Nobody has struck out
more in a single season than Colson Montgomery. He struck
out 227 times. Stat of the Day brought to you

(17:43):
by Panini America. He's Devin McCourty, Football Night in America
analyst and three-time Super Bowl champ. He will be with
the Football Night in America crew. It's the Lions at
the Panthers kickoff 820 Eastern on NBC and Peacock.

Speaker 11 (18:00):
All right.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Let me start with Drake May. This isn't about this
season for me. I go back to the playoffs last year.
I know he was banged up going into the Super Bowl,
but this is far more than just a couple of
bad games. Now, in my opinion, a couple of bad
games to start this year. When he went against good
defenses last year, he was not an MVP candidate. So

(18:23):
how would you get him out of this funk?

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Yeah, I think the hard thing is I thought last
year he didn't play particularly well, but I thought what
was around him Wasn't that good either. But what I
enjoyed about last year was it wasn't the poor decision making.
I think that's for me the difference of this year
is no matter what position.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
You play, you can't.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
When I was in New England under Bill Belichick, you
can't make losing plays. We can't keep guys on the
field that are causing us to lose. It's just not
fair to the rest of the guys. For me, that's
my biggest issue when I'm watching Drake May right now.
Your team is competing. You go back to the first
game of the year, kickoff in Seattle. your team is

(19:11):
playing well enough around you to go win. Is it perfect?
Does it look great? No, but then you throw three
interceptions late in that game. That's the difference in the game.
You fumble the ball in Jacksonville, the game's still competitive.
You make a bad throw in the end zone. So
like you should have two field goals. You don't. So
it should be 14, nine, but instead it's 14, three, like,

(19:31):
Those plays to me have been more of his issue
of we just can't make the bad decision, no matter
the struggles we're going through. Maybe we're not throwing the
ball great or we just can't. We can't give the
ball away and give the other team opportunity to win
the game off of our mistakes.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
What's your level of belief in the Raiders?

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Right now, I think you see the Raiders winning is
one thing. If you go back and you go watch
their film, it's screaming, hey, we're playing good football. So
for me, I think the Raiders are going to be
a hard out in a division where the Chargers don't
look like they're going to be competitive. Denver's still trying
to find their way. And obviously Kansas City looks amazing

(20:13):
right now. The Raiders, like the football, the X's and O's,
when you turn on the tape, Looks damn good. It's
hard to just say like, oh, it's just the first
two weeks, the first three weeks. They look like a
good football team right now.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
What about the Texans? You could always rely on the defense.
They're not even getting that.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
For me, I'm.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Worried about the Texans. I when I first retired and
I got into the media, everyone, you know, when you're playing,
you're not paying attention to everybody else. Everyone was like,
the Bengals, they just start slow. They'll be okay. And
I was like, guys in National Football League, there's no
such thing as like, we'll be okay. We'll catch up
to everybody. So for Houston, I think they got to
get some guys healthy. They got to get Ingram back

(20:54):
up front on the offensive line. They got to get
Nico Collins back at receiver. But like overall, you look
at the two losses to Buffalo and this past week,
they lost to Indy. They had the lead and they
just needed their defense to get one stop and they
win the game. They didn't get it. And not that
the defense is playing poorly. It's just not as dominant
as it was a year ago. And I think that's

(21:16):
a little bit of the issue with this team is
they rely way too much on their defense having to
just shut down and have historic numbers. You can't win
like that consistently in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Chargers are 0-3.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Why?

Speaker 5 (21:31):
I think the loss of Jesse Minter has played a
bigger role defensively. James Cook had, I think, 154 yards
rushing last week. They played better against the pass. They
created turnovers. But then the offensive leaders trying to find
their way under Mike McDaniel and the Herbert situation, it's

(21:51):
just not gelling. But they don't look like they have that, like,
urge that we've seen from the Jim Harbaugh teams. And
I think that's been their issue. And they're a few
weeks away from this season just being over, and we're
done with them, and they'll figure out where they kind
of land in the draft.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
So you've got Panthers and the Lions coming up this Sunday.
What is different about Bryce Young this year?

Speaker 5 (22:16):
I think when Bryce Young can hit that back foot
and he can throw the ball and they give him
a clean pocket, it looks great. I think what Bryce
has done an even better job of when that hasn't
been there, he's been able.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
To create some plays.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
That has been better. I think that is tailing off
the back end of last year into this year where
he's able to make some plays that, you know, they're
not there in the beginning. And I think the threats
that they got around him are better. So he's able
to get the ball to some guys that can do
the rest. Jalen Coker's played really well to start the season.
I think that's been a big help for him.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
What's a defense do when they go against a backup
quarterback or a third-string quarterback with the Bears? Because we
look at the offensive side of this, of what the
offense is going to do, and you limit the playbook there.
But is there a different strategy when you're playing defense
against a backup quarterback?

Speaker 9 (23:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
I think sometimes the best defenses are you just keep
it moving. I think with Case Keenum, it was a
little different because Case has been out there for a while,
so you're not going to confuse him as much. But
you want to keep it moving because– You don't know
how many tools in the toolbox he has to get
out of different plays, get into a new play because
he hasn't gotten a lot of reps. So I think

(23:33):
for me, Philadelphia is way more kind of traditional. They
line up and play more than any other defense. So
I think that made it a little easier for Ben
Johnson and Case Keenum. to get together during the week
and construct a game plan of how to attack because
you kind of know where their guys are going to be.
Whereas I think as a defense, you go against a backup,
let's be moving around, let's do a few things differently.

(23:56):
It doesn't mean blitz them all out, blitz all the time,
but let's just keep disguising and keep it moving so
it's not easy.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
He's Devin McCourty. Don't make mistakes and call him Jason McCourty.
That happens all the time, doesn't it? All the time.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Everywhere I go, they're like, man, I just saw you
on TV yesterday. And I was like, that's not me.
That's not me. Sometimes people don't believe me that there's
two of us because he was such a bad player
that they thought there was only one of us.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Could you have gotten into his uniform and he got
into your uniform and nobody would have known the difference?

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Especially Belichick. He would not have known at all until
the play started. And then he would be like, what
the hell is going on? Then he would have known
the difference right away.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Football Night in America analyst. You start to look at
after three weeks, and I think Belichick, didn't he usually
say the first four weeks, that's kind of your preseason? Yep.
Extension of the preseason.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
But when you heard that, like, I don't know, is
that feel weird that he's not looking at it like, wait,
these are real games. He's kind of assessing his team
through the first month.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
It was fortunate being a captain so then we would
kind of hear what that meant and if you ever
look at like new england's games in that time period
we would have so many guys playing guys would be
rotating in every like fourth series of the game because
he would say to us we don't truly have an
identity yet we we think we know how we want

(25:28):
to play but we have to go play to that
so like He's like, there's probably like four or five
spots every year where the competition was close through the preseason.
But like the big question is, what is that guy
going to do once we get into regular season games?
And I think that's what he always meant. Some of
those top position battles. Yeah, we picked a starter, but
are we in love with the starter compared to the backup?

(25:50):
Maybe not like that backup still going to get some
reps and we're going to figure it out. So it
was always like a lot more people playing in that
time period because his whole thing was when we get
to December, We want to know who our guys are
and the guys that are not our guys. We don't
want them on the field. We want to go down
with our best players. And that's why I like that
September time was an extension of the preseason because he

(26:13):
always felt after Thanksgiving is when games truly mattered and
you had to be your absolute best.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
More likely to pick up a tell from a quarterback
or a wide receiver as a defensive back?

Speaker 5 (26:27):
I always love the tells from the quarterback. If I
could get a tell from the quarterback, how they like
to double move, where they like to go, how they
like to look off when they were throwing a pass.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Give me somebody who you knew that there was a
tell with them. I'll say this.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
There was a tell I had, like when I played
Peyton Manning. And when we played Peyton when he was
in Denver, very rarely did he throw any post routes.
We played a lot of center field and we closed
off the post route. And there was a tell with
him and some other quarterbacks of when they were in
their drop, when they wanted to kind of throw a

(27:04):
double move or a post route, they would look as
soon as they got the ball. They would look one
way right away to try to get the safety to
move so they could fire the ball back across the field.
And Peyton did that one game. And I was like, Oh,
he's lying to me. He's looking over there. He's coming back.
And he looked over there and he stayed over there

(27:24):
and he threw it the same way he looked from
the beginning of the play. And I remember sitting there
being like, Man, like Peyton Manning just looked down a
receiver and he's he's playing with my mind. He's not
supposed to do that. And that's why I like the
great ones were great. They understood the chess match that

(27:44):
was going on.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Did you ever pick off Peyton?

Speaker 5 (27:48):
I did. I got paid in my rookie year and
I still got that ball. So several balls you don't
get rid of.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
But you wouldn't ask him to sign that, would you?

Speaker 5 (27:58):
I feel like when I was young, you didn't do
things like that. Like, that wasn't– that was kind of
frowned upon. Like, I always felt like a veteran player would– like,
guys were pissed when they lost. It wasn't one of
those things where you were kind of like, oh, man, yeah,
you got me laughing. Especially, like, I picked him when
he was an Indy. There was no love lost. Like,
those games we felt like would decide who was going

(28:20):
to the AFC Championship and, you know, who was going
to go play in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Who's the best– well, Peyton, anybody– higher up on the
food chain that you picked off?

Speaker 5 (28:30):
No, Peyton, I was mad. I only got one opportunity
to get Tom. And I felt like I hesitated on
a route and a formation I had seen probably 50 times.
And I was like, this is going to be this.
And I was like a step late. And I made
the tackle. And I was like, I should have just went.
Because I knew what it was. And that's the only

(28:54):
other quarterback I would have loved to get would have
been Tom Brady the one time.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
I played against him. Did you get Brett Favre?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
I did get Brett Favre. I got Brett Favre my
rookie year, which was crazy to me because I was like,
I watched this guy when I was in middle school.
How the hell do I have a Brett Favre interception?
So my rookie year was cool. I got Brett Favre, Peyton,
and Phillip Rivers all in my rookie year, which was
really cool.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
But did that one hurt with Favre? Because he liked
to throw it pretty hard.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
No, so I actually was a weird interception, threw it
to Percy Harvin as he was bringing the ball in.
I kind of stripped it out of his hand, popped
in the air. So I didn't break a finger trying
to catch a Brett Favre interception.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Oh, so technically you didn't pick off. Brett Favre.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
It counted as an interception.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
It did?

Speaker 5 (29:43):
It did. Because he didn't possess the ball long enough.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
He kind of like caught it as he was bringing
it in.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I popped it out. Great to talk to you. Safe
travels as always. Thanks for joining us, Devin. Appreciate it, Dan.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Good seeing you, man.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Devin McCourty. Football Night in America, don't confuse him with
his brother who's not as good a football player as
the three-time Super Bowl champ. Three-time All-Pro. Football Night in America,
that'll be Sunday. They start Football Night in America at
7 Eastern and then the game at 820. One other
thing that I brought up yesterday, we had Christopher Mad

(30:17):
Dog Russo on, and I asked him, I said, if
you were running CBS, would you want Tony Romo back?
And he said no, and he gave his reasons why.
And then Chris returned the question to me. And I said, no,
the biggest thing that I should have said, and that's
why I want to say it now, Tony needs help.
This shouldn't be about Tony coming back to be an analyst.

(30:40):
Tony clearly needs help. Hopefully he gets help. Hopefully he's
able to have a healthy life moving forward. And if
he gets the chance to be able to come back,
because when this happened, I said he deserves a second chance.
That doesn't mean he deserves a second chance with CBS
because J.J. Watt got moved up. Ross Tucker got moved up.

(31:01):
They Ross Tucker has been putting in his time and
he deserves that. Now, I don't know what's going to happen.
You know, I'm always curious about Greg Olson at Fox
because are you going to keep J.J. Watt with Jim Nance?
And I think J.J. joins us tomorrow, Todd. Does that
sound right?

Speaker 4 (31:20):
He does.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You know, it's tricky. Troy Aikman hasn't been signed by
the mothership, and Joe Buck has. That one's tricky, too.
You might have a couple of free agents there, and
maybe that would change things. But Tony needs help. I
don't think Tony was a great analyst. Now, if this
DUI happened five years ago, I'm going to guess CBS

(31:44):
would still stand behind Tony Romo. I think they were
looking to get out from underneath that contract, which was...
embarrassing at the time, but they wanted to keep him
from going to the mothership. I believe he needs, he
needs to be healthy. Then if he wants to come
back and he wants to be an analyst, there'll be
opportunities probably for him. But I do think he needs

(32:07):
to commit because I think he had a style that
you could get away with. And I thought Jim Nance
did some of his best broadcasting because when you have
an analyst who is not buttoned up, like Tony would
ramble a little bit. Jim had to always grab it
and then make it work. But Tony, you know, he

(32:30):
came out of the shoot on fire and it was fun.
It was great. And he was predicting things. But then
I mentioned the further he got away from the game.
That's when you have to do more homework. And I
think that's the big challenge. Do you put in the time?
And I thought it was obvious that he wasn't putting
in the time. But I want to make sure that

(32:51):
I mention above everything, you got to get healthy. I
don't care if he comes back as an analyst or not.
But seeing that video. That's somebody who's in trouble. Take
a break. Back after this.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
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Speaker 2 (33:17):
We went to dinner. This is during World Cup. And
there's a story involved in this that I can't tell
until a person at this restaurant retires. But something happened, fun,
but I'm sworn to secrecy with Will and his sons

(33:39):
with this event at this restaurant until my friend retires,
which I think is in the next year. But I
actually have video. I'll be able to do a show
and tell with that story. But Will, his son, Magnus,
on Falmon last night and touring with the Jonas Brothers.

(34:00):
Update the poll results there, Dylan. All righty.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Well, last night I watched the MLB playoffs, NHL opening day,
WNBA playoffs or none.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Of the above.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
According to the people, most of them were watching the
MLB playoffs. Fifty three percent. Yeah, I did a drive by.
Hockey started at five o'clock, I think, didn't it? With
the Panthers. That went into overtime. But there was baseball
that started at, what, 2 in the afternoon and went
till midnight East Coast time?

Speaker 6 (34:31):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
That was great. That was great. Dave in Bakersfield. Hi, Dave.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
Hi, DP. Hey.

Speaker 10 (34:40):
Thanks for taking the call. Appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (34:41):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I've got to talk about the Raiders a little bit.

Speaker 10 (34:45):
First off, the Ashton Genting thing, it is what it is.
Pete Carroll drafted him.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
We know that disaster that was.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Will he be a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Probably not.

Speaker 10 (34:54):
Do I trust our Super Bowl-winning offensive coordinator, who is
now our head coach, to get the most of him?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Absolutely. They're 3-0.

Speaker 10 (35:01):
They're not going to win the Super Bowl. But at
the very least, they are a reflection of Clint Kubiak's discipline.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
They play hard.

Speaker 10 (35:09):
Nicoby Dean's an animal. Quake Walker's help. We've got rookie
corners everywhere. The future's looking bright. I guarantee you, Fritz,
that they'd sweep the Broncos this year.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dave. Dave is guaranteeing the Raiders sweep
the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
I can't let that sit.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
He just hung up. That was a drop the microphone,
drop the phone moment there. Dave in Bakersfield.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
He should be lucky if they get a split.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, I said it.

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Speaker 3 (36:08):
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the day, stat of the day.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Here comes that what?

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Stat of the day.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
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of the Dan Patrick Show. watching Atlanta yesterday with the
Phillies and the Phillies bullpen, the highest ERA of any
bullpen in the month of September. And Donnie baseball went
a little too early for his closer and paid the
price in that. See, these are the things. And I

(36:41):
don't think Don has been given the full time. I
think he's still interim manager with the Phillies and he
turned that team around, but it feels like a couple
of moves here. And you wonder if they're going to
make him the official manager or he's going to be
one and done. Yeah, Marvin.

Speaker 8 (37:03):
Speaking of Don Mattingly, I always feel bad for him
that there was only an ALCS in the World Series
because he was on some really good Yankees teams. And
the only time he made the playoffs was when the
wild card was implemented in 1995. That dude, I feel
like he got robbed because of the playoff system in
the 1980s and early 90s.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, and got the bad back and he missed out
on the start of the Yankee dynasty. And had he
gotten one of those and contributed? But he was battling
a bad back for quite some time. You know, he
kept it quiet. But I got to know him, you know,
fairly well when he was with the Yankees. And, you know,

(37:41):
I've stayed in touch, you know, for decades now. But,
you know, that was one of those if he stayed healthy.
Because he was a machine. He was a great fielder
and he hit with power. He hit with average. He
was he was and you played in New York as well. Yes, Dylan. Yeah,

(38:01):
he was one of those guys.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
I remember finding out that he wasn't in the Hall
of Fame and being surprised by that. I don't know
if that's more of like a Northeast thing, but you
just he was synonymous with the Yankees. And you're like,
those guys are all Hall of Famers.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
And back then, when batting titles meant something, it come
down to the last day of the season. And I
think that he was up for a batting title maybe
with Dave Winfield. Might have been one other person that
it came down to like a, I don't know, percentage point.
But back then when people actually cared what their batting

(38:34):
average was. See, I don't understand that the White Sox
have a kid who struck out 227 times this year.
And we're okay with that. If you struck out 100 times,
you had the scarlet letter. That was the walk of shame. Now,

(38:57):
you're up there getting your rips. Man, you're right on
that one. Yeah, Paulie.

Speaker 9 (39:02):
The most times Don Mattingly ever struck out in a
single season was 43 times.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's a month for this kid. Yes, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, even Murakami on the White Sox, who's electric, and
he had like 35 home runs and almost 80 RBIs.
He was batting just above the Mendoza line, like 205
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I think they got to change the Mendoza line.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Like it's an insult to the Mendoza line. Like 190
should be the Mendoza line. But these guys don't. It
doesn't matter. Which I'm still, hey, did you get on base? No,
but I struck out. All righty. I would think getting
on base would still be more valuable than striking out.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Yeah, Paulie.

Speaker 9 (39:47):
One of my favorite stats is Tony Gwynn once finished
the season hitting.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
394.

Speaker 9 (39:50):
He had 19 strikeouts.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
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Speaker 1 (39:57):
Speaking of strikeouts, Segway.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Jacob Mizorowski, the Brewers pitcher, set to join us in
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