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You know, the college football, college basketball, the whole conference
that they had at the White House on Friday and
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the president there. You had fifty esteemed individuals who were
there representing different different entities. You know, you have former coaches,
you have TV executives. I wanted to know why not
have a current coach and or current player or players
because you are talking about them. Ross Dellinger, covering the
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event on Friday, Who's Sports senior college football reporter, What
was your biggest takeaway from this on Friday?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Ross, Dan, I noticed that you let out an exhaustive
sigh as you started to talk before you started talking
about this event, and I would say that plenty of
people in attendance probably had a similar sign after it
wrapped up. You know, I think the goal of this event, Dan,
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was to bring attention to the issue by gathering all
these important people, these dignitaries at the White House in
front of the President. So I think there was a
goal of number one, bringing attention to the issue, and
number two, by way of bringing attention to it, maybe
you put pressure on congressional lawmakers to push something through
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college sports bill through the Congress, which is what the
president want has SETI once, and I think actually it
accomplished goal one. It certainly got people talking and had
attention brought to it. Whether we'll get a college sports
bill from it, I'm not sure. There's a fight in
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the Senate over a bill and a fight in.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
The House right now.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
And there's a bill that probably could get to the
floor of the House to govern college athletics as soon
as next week, but I don't know that it'll pass.
There's confidence it'll pass the House, there's not confidence, as
we learned during the roundtable on Friday at the White House,
that it will pass the Senate.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
So still a lot of hurdles.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And of course, one of the things we've found out
that was a little bit of a surprise Dan was
the President saying he'll issue another executive order to govern
college athletics. Not sure what will be in that, but
he already issued one back in the summer and it
hasn't changed much about anything.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
So I'm not sure how this one will.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, and if I'm wrong, tell me. But an executive
order can't make a law, provide anti trust exemptions, or
override state laws or policies. In the executive order, they
can be challenged in court. So I don't know what's
going to come out of this, if anything. But were
are there any ideas any initiatives that were actually brought
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up in this roundtable?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Not anything novel or groundbreaking.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
There was a good amount of time spent discussing the
Score Act, the college sports bill that's in the House
that has twice failed to get to the floor because
they didn't have the votes. And again that I think
next week or maybe for the following week, we will
see that finally move. There was a lot of talk
about the Score Act, and then there's a lot of
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talk from the President specifically about the judicial system, which
you could tell he has sort of a vendetta against
because of rulings that have come against him the last
a few months or so. So he he sort of
blamed college sports current situation on on judges and on
their on their rulings. Uh So, No, they get back
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to your question, not a whole lot of novel concepts
that that we learned. Uh, just college sports folks sitting
around with the president, uh, plainning about judges and hoping
for something to happen in Congress.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Why not a current coach or current players? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Well, I mean I think a group of a small
group of media.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
We got a few questions and at the very end
and someone did ask the president why there wasn't a
current college athlete on the panel, And he turned to
Randy Levine, who's the Yankees president, who actually put together
sort of put together the roundtable and said that while
there's no current athlete now around this specific roundtable, that
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in the future, as this group continues, there will be
athlete voices sort of joining, and apparently the group will continue,
maybe not as big. They're going to break off into
sort of like a smaller subgroup I don't know, three, five,
ten people to continue working with the legislature. That's the thing, Dan,
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that you you read all that's accurate about the president
in an executive order, he can't do a whole lot
There's not a whole lot of power there need. You
need congressional actions. So this small subgroup of the roundtable
will work with lawmakers to try to shape college sports
legislation that you know, grants conferences in the NCAAA the
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power to enforce their rules, preempts these state in il
laws and deems athletes is not employees.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
That's sort of the three main things they want.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
To happen now for the casual fan, Dan, part of
what they want is an anti trust exemption to enforce
their rules around transfers in the cap, the salary cap
that we have now in college college athletics in the
movement just the movement of people transferring in eligibility standards.
So that's how the casual fan might eventually see a
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bill come to fruition. Is much pressure from all these
eligibility cases that we've seen in the movement of transfers
in college athletics.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
What role does Nick Saban play?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Well, you know, I think he's he's got a pretty
big voice, number one, and for whatever reason, the President
wants him to play a very big role. He was
you know, there was this commission or this roundtable that
was put together with something last springing almost a year ago,
that kind of got out publicly, and the President wanted
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Nick Sabor to chare it, and Nick actually didn't really
didn't want to be involved, and so somehow he got talked.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Into being involved.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Now at this at this roundtable, he certainly got a
big voice, and the President wants to be once him involved.
And you know, if you listen to Nick Saban, you
know he's You've got a lot of good ideas.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I think he's he's got other ideas that.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Some athlete rights folks may disagree with as far as
the restrictions imposed on athletes.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
And that's the real argument here.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Dan and That's why Congress can't get a bill through
is because you have most Republicans that are leaning toward
the NCAA sort a side and more restrictions on athletes
and more control for the NCAAA, and a democratic side
wants more control and freedom for athletes. But right now
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that control and freedom is, as the college administrators might say,
out of control, right and so they want some kind
of rules of regulation. So you have this fight going
on between Republican Democrats that I don't see getting resolved
anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
College football in better shape now or ten years.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Ago, since since the athletes are getting some kind of
conversation right now from the multi billion dollar business that
is college.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Football, you have to say that's in a better situation.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
But I think the unregulation in the intense movement that
we're seeing among transfers and things like that, in the
situation with the inconsistent eligibility standard, that it's not in
a place, it's not in the greatest place right that
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it could be. So there's just a balance that has
to be struck on how many how much rule and regulation,
how much restriction do you put on athletes because they
you know, ten years ago, Dan they had virtually none, right,
they had no, hardly any freedoms, and now maybe the
argument is they have too many freedoms and so we
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don't have any rule in regulation.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
There's got to be sort of a balance there.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Usually you get to that balance by what the NFL
and all the pro leagues have done dan, which is
collect the bar. But it's out that evening college and
it has been a big topic of discussion.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
But it's not like you can push a button and
get there.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
But many administrators want to try to start taking steps down, down, down,
toward a collective bargaining agreement of some sort with major
college football and basketball players.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Thank you, Ross, yep, gonna be on Ross Dellinger, Yahoo Sports,
senior college football reporter. You know, I know there's a
lot of legalies in there, and you know, Ross trying
to dumb it down a little bit for us just
so we can kind of understand what this means. Now,
what it means the upcoming season your school, if you're
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in the SEC Big ten or you're ACC or Big twelve.
And there's a lot of moving parts here. Nothing's going
to be solved anytime soon. You know, once you have uh,
you know, both sides of the aisle not agreeing on this.
It doesn't matter. You know, the president can say whatever
he wants. It's not going to have an impact, at
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least not anytime soon, even if you have another executive order.
It's just there's only so much you can do. It
sounds grander than what it is. But is college football
better now? Is the product better now? I know it's
better for the players, but is the product better? Because
I can look past the other stuff? If I say, Hey,
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what I'm watching is entertaining, it's I don't like that
you can transfer multiple times. I think that there should
be a cap on that. But if you want to
try to, you know, make these players employees and have unions,
and you know, there's a lot of work to be done.
But I think they could have cut this off at
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the path, and they could have. They could have prevented
a lot of this, a lot of this because I'll
go back to when, well, you're getting a free education, yes,
but if you look at the the schedules of these athletes,
it's a work schedule and I wonder about school, or
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at least I did. Coach Saban said, we don't spend
enough time talking about education. I don't know if these
kids are going to school to get an education. They're
going to school to play, you know, a sport and
maybe play it after college. They're getting paid in college.
I don't think it's the way it was. If you're
over the age of fifty, where you go, you know,
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get an education. You should be happy you got a
free education. This is big business. This is billions and
billions of dollars. And they were labeled student athletes. And
because of that, it's like, well, you got a free education.
Yes you do, but it's so much more than that.
And yes, education that's a rumor. It feels like. And
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as I've said many many times, I'm waiting for somebody
to be ineligible, academically ineligible. I don't even know if
we're enforcing that anytime soon. Yes, Paul, it's.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
A really tough question to answer. Is college football the
product better now or ten years ago? It felt like
we missed the regulation of college football and more control.
But if you look at what NIL has done, look
at Indiana, one of the great stories in sports history,
not just college football, and I think that directly happened
because of the openness of college football now compared to
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seven eight years ago.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well, you're bringing in schools that weren't in contention before,
and I think that's a good thing. Instead of it
being top heavy where it's the same five to seven schools,
you get a school like Indiana to win the national championship.
Never in my lifetime would I have thought that that
was possible, and at times I still don't believe it.
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But you need to have those stories. All sports needs
to have those stories where it's not predictable. That's the beauty.
And you know, even this year's Super Bowl Seattle and
New England, I don't think many people had either one
of those teams going that far, but the possibility is there.
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You always want that with your leaks. Hey, the Spurs,
they might be the team to beat in the West.
It's a great story, not the Well, it's going to
be the same teams, same schools, and I think that's
something that is very promising in sports. All right, let
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for joining us. Why not if you're the Dolphins, keep
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Tua on the roster if you're paying him.
Speaker 9 (17:11):
Great question. I think, Dan, they're resetting things. It's year one,
Let's take the cap charges, Let's eat a lot of
the money this year, some of it's going to go
to next year and start fresh. I think it's sending
a message about culture and more about the future than Hey,
if we win six or seven games or eight games
this year, that doesn't matter. So I understand why they
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were doing year one with a new head coach, year
one with a new GM.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Are the Dolphins going to be tanking?
Speaker 9 (17:40):
I don't know if they're gonna be tanking, But I
think what's gonna be really interesting, Dan, if you and
I are having this conversation October and November, there'll be
a number of teams that are probably more interested in
fishing closer to the top of the draft than to
making the playoffs. And I don't know if they're going
to have a tanking problem the way the NBA does.
But without question, next year's draft is loaded with quarterbacks
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and there's gonna be a number of teams that maybe
out of it in the middle of the season. It'll
be interesting to see how they can port themselves when
we get there.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But Tua, if he signs with the team, he still
gets his money from Miami.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
That's correct. There's three.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
There's three quarterbacks right now, Kyler, Murray, Gino Smith and
Tua that all have massive guarantees from their previous team.
All three of those quarterbacks will sign for about one
point three million dollars this year. So it's not necessarily
comparing apples to apples when you talk about Daniel Jones
or Kirk Cousins or Malik Willis with those other three,
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because a team is going to see one of those
three players as tremendous value.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
If you ran the Dolphins, what are you going to
do at quarterback position?
Speaker 9 (18:47):
I'm probably looking for a bridge quarterback and then looking
at next year's draft because it could be historically great. Look,
the season hasn't been played yet, We'll see how it goes,
but you know there's a chance for it to be
really good. So not not just necessarily Miami Dan, but
if I felt like I was a year away or
just trying to establish myself. There's, you know, over ten
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new head coaches. I'm sure a lot of teams are
going to have a very similar mindset.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Max Crosby Raiders getting two first round picks from the Ravens.
Let me start with the Ravens because I wondered about
this last week. Why aren't more teams taking the approach
the Rams take, like Buffalo getting Dj Moore. I mean,
I got to be all in because we know that
window of opportunity doesn't stay open very long. And the Rams,
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it feels like, for the last decade, have been all in.
We don't need our draft picks. We're going to get
people who can help us win or at least compete
for another Super Bowl. The Ravens went all in with
Max Crosby, Buffalo with Dj Moore, the Rams, you know,
getting McDuffie. Why don't more teams follow that blueprint?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:56):
I think it's very sound, And in particular, you were
asking about Osby. You know, there's a couple of really
interesting things. First of all, he's only twenty nine, He's
incredibly productive, and he's exactly what you want for your
locker room. He's a force multiplier. He's going to make
everybody in that program better. The interesting thing, Dan, that
no one's really talked about is jesse Mentor went from
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this nice, young, ascending coach that will have, you know,
a reasonable breaking period to like there is no honeymoon.
Like the expectations for a rookie head coach have never
been higher. If Lamar's healthy, he's a two time MVP.
You have one of the two or three best pass
rushers in the league. You have Derek Henry, rokwand Smith,
Kyle Hamilton, amongst others. Like this guy's honeymoon's about ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
If you ran the Raiders, what do you do. You've
got more cap space than anybody. You got two first
round picks. We know what you're doing with one of them.
What would you be leaning towards if you were running
the team?
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Three things?
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. I am Dan, I
am drafting men, but I am not playing him. I
would have kept Gino Smith. And here's why. If you
go back last year that they gave it more sacks
than any team you could look at it from a
few different metrics. Don't ruin it for Nando Mendoza before
he's ready. I think he has a chance. On the upside,
Dan to be Matt Ryan, a taller guy, a good arm,
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a good athlete, not a great athlete. He's going to
need a firm pocket. That's something that the Raiders have
really struggled with. So why are we going to rush
to play him? I would go out and get somebody
else to start at least half the year, and make
sure that your offensive line is settled before you do
anything with Mendoza, because you don't want to ruin his
career before they have a chance to be good.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm right there with you. I've been using the Andrew
Luck analogy that you had this future Hall of Fame quarterback,
you just didn't have a very good offensive line and
it eventually caught up to both the cold Den Andrew Luck.
Can you quietly shop the number one pick if you're
the Raiders?
Speaker 9 (21:57):
Yeah, I'm not so sure they have it. You know,
like just from teams be at Arizona or the Jets
could just say, hey, run into them at the combine
and say, look, we're not negotiating. Tell me what the
bill is, tell me what the prices? Is it three ones?
Is a four ones? Chances are you know teams are
going to do that because I'm sure they're looking at
it at a multi year sort of view of what.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
We had talked about.
Speaker 9 (22:17):
When can think about Dante Moore next year, arch Manning, Leonora,
Sellers like on and on and on, they'll probably be
I think five or six first round quarterbacks if they play,
you know, reasonably well this year. So I think part
of what's going to hurt the Raiders from a leverage
standpoint is teams are going to look at next year
and say, we'll pay a premium, but we're not going
to be unreasonable.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Who had a better week or ten days? Bills, Ravens Rams.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
I'm going to go with the Rams. If you and
I were running the Chiefs and we were just drafting
the players on the Chiefs, Clearly Patrick Mahomes is the
best player. I'm not so sure that Trent McDuffie is
in two or three of their best players. He can blitz,
he can tackle, he could play man, he could play zone,
he could play slot, he could play outside. He's very competitive.
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There's nothing he doesn't do exceptionally well. And if we
look at the rams and say, like what was outcome determinative,
I would tell you like they're a lack of play
at corner. You know, Darius Williams, Emmanuel Forbes. They didn't
get the high level play. And we're gonna have to
at some point cover Jackson Smith and Jigba Man to man.
You know, we're gonna have to be able to get
off the field on third down. They could do that today,
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they can do that a week ago, and I was surprised. Look,
I know we've seen Kansas City trade the Jerry Sneed,
We've seen him trade Tyreek Hill. I put McDuffie in
a different category. I think he's a great young player,
and I was surprised that they traded him.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
He's Mike tan and baumb ESPN NFL Front office insider.
What do you expect the rest of this week?
Speaker 9 (23:50):
I think the quarterbacks are gonna be fascinating because I
think you put that bucket of three in one group again,
then that's Tua, Kyler, Murray and Gino Smifth. Those are
are all one year deals at a million three, So
like that's one bucket. I don't think anybody goes after
Daniel Jones because of the Durabilly issue. But let's face it, Dan,
like the Colts are a little bit exposed. They took
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a six million dollar risk. The transition tag was six
million less than the franchise tag, understandably. But now let's
see what happens with him, and then the other one's
gonna be Malik Willis. Malik Willis was somebody that hasn't
played a lot, but got a lot better with Green Bay,
and it's gonna be fascinating to see where he signs.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
What about the Colts going after Kyler Murray.
Speaker 9 (24:37):
You know that's interesting, Dan. They like Wiley Leonard, they
still have Anthony Richardson. Obviously they like Daniel Jones. That's
why they transitioned him. Look, if you and I were
running a team, I would say, for one point three
million dollars, let's go hit Kyleer Murray. His ceiling is
really high. He's only twenty nine years old. He's played
good football, not consistently, but he's put it on tape.
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And I'm always four in a cap a constrained system,
when you could take calculated risks and get a player
that has a ability for incredibly on a three hundred
million dollar cap, you're essentially paying him nothing at one
point three million. There's very very little downside.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Aaron Rodgers is only going to have the Steelers as
a potential landing spot.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
I mean, I think Minnesota if things do work out
with Murray, I mean, that's the only other team. But
you know, let's face it, Dan, he's going to be
forty three in December. He's an all time great, one
of the best I ever played. But it's close to
the end and what you're worry about there, And I've
been around Testa Verdi at the end, Farv at the end.
I work with Dan Marino like talking to him. It's
not their arm, Dan, it's their legs and their inability
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to protect themselves. And you know, he's going to be
forty three father times undefeated. And if I'm Aaron Rodgers,
I got to take a long, honest and sober view
of do I really need to do this one more year?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I just wonder about landing spots. Even Kirk Cousin does
he look at TV and maybe commit to CBS, But
with the caveat or the asterisk of if somebody calls
I might be leaving, although I don't know if CBS
would do that. I think he had a pretty good
debut as an analyst here. But if you're going to
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replace Matt Ryan, you kind of want to know that
that guy's going to be there on Sunday when you're
doing your broadcast.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Yeah, if I'm Kirk Cousins, like, I got to be
close to the end as well. Like, you know, he's
a great dad by all accounts. You know, CBS seems
like a pretty good opportunity. You know, we'll see you know,
sometimes these guys are so competitive though, it's hard for
them to leave. And by the way, a quarterback is
going to look at Minnesota to say, I could be
coach by Kevin O'Connell. I have Justin Jefferson ugly the
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best receiver in the game, Jordian Dass and TJ.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Hockinson. That's a pretty good place to be.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
How did did Minnesota miss on JJ McCarthy? Like it
feels like we haven't said the quiet out loud yet,
but it certainly feels like they realized they made a mistake.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
Yeah, I'm not ready to go there yet. He started
ten games I think we gotta give him a grade
have in complete. He's incredibly young. I saw him practice
probably six times at Michigan. He has attributes. You can
see he's a natural leader, he has poise about him,
and I think there's too much upside to give up
on him.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Now.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
With that said, if we could go get Kyler Murray
or Kirk Cousins, I'm gonna have a competition. But you know,
we've seen too many guys from Darnold, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield,
you know, go to their third and fourth team until
you know, quote unquote, the light went on and to me,
we gotta remember this, like, worst case scenario is not
JJ McCarthy not working out, it's him working out someplace else.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. But it feels like you're either good,
really good with your team or you know that you're
gonna get You're gonna be a backup quarterback and then
you're gonna get your chance again. It feels like there's
two buckets and quarterbacks. That guy's going to bounce around
and be Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield or Gino Smith,
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or you are going to get that quarterback who is
going to be with your franchise from start to finish.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
Yeah, how about this, Like I just tweeted this a
couple of months ago. This is a remarkable statistic. Kyler
Murray is the seventh consecutive quarterback drafted first overall that
wasn't on the team that drafted him by the age
of thirty. The last quarterback to be drafted first overall
and still be honest team at thirty was Matt Stafford,
and he was drafted going back to two thousand and nine.
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So it's really remarkable how hard it is to develop
a quarterback now Andrew Luck retired, but yeah, seven quarterbacks
in a row didn't make it to age of thirty.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You ever get in a shouting match with an agent?
Speaker 9 (28:51):
Yeah, more times than I would care to admit.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Can you give me one. You don't have to give names,
but no, what not loud? Did it get?
Speaker 11 (29:01):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (29:02):
Gout loud? There was one that was so bad that
I actually not only did I call him to apologize,
I wound up hiring his son as an interns.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
They felt so bad.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Uh, we'll be watching. Thank you, Mike. Great to talk
to you again.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
All right, appreciate you having me.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Thanks Dan, Mike, Tannenbaum. You can see him on various
ESPN programs, Get Up Sports Center, NFL Live. And you
feel bad you don't send chocolates, you go, We'll hire
your son as an intern. A couple of phone calls
in here, Mark and Saint Cloud. Welcome back, Mark, Hey Dan,
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how you doing good.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Sir good?
Speaker 12 (29:43):
I got a couple of best and the worst worst.
I feel bad for the kids at Navy, but I'm
sure Fritzy that the Navy announcer was really excited when
Boston you hit that shot to take him out of
the tournament. I'm sure he illustrated that well. Best of
the weekend. Your Johnny's University and your Benning's of the
College of Saint Benedict both make it in to the
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Division III Hockey NCAA tournament.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
And I have a rule.
Speaker 12 (30:09):
Speaking of the Division one NCAA tournament, I'd like you
to consider what should.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Think of this.
Speaker 12 (30:13):
If you don't finish about five hundred in your conference,
unless you win the conference tournament, you can't get an
automatic birth or you know, and at large berth. I
should say you can't get an at large berth if
you don't finish over five hundred in your conference. So
Auburn out stand of the day, Minneapolis the leader and
money spent on only fans. Atlanta's number one nationally, but
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Minneapolis in the top five.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Well, congratulations, Minneapolis. It is cold there. You look at
some of these teams that are bubble teams. You got Auburn,
they're sixteen and fifteen, Indiana eighteen and thirteen, Stanford twenty
and eleven, Boise State twenty and eleven, and they're probably
there waiting for Miami of Ohio to get bounced.
Speaker 13 (31:01):
Yes, Marvin, Auburn's a bubble at one game above five hundred.
If you're like nineteen and twelve, all right, Well you
can't be seventeen and sixteen, like, oh, they're a bubble team.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They did beat Florida at Florida. I don't know what
their resume is. And you got Bruce Pearl talking about
his son, who's the head coach at Auburn. No conflict. Yeah, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 13 (31:23):
But what about those sixteen games they lost. I'm sure
there's a couple of teams that they shouldn't have lost to.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I agree, I agree, babe. But you know, if Miami
of Ohio played in the SEC. They'd be lucky to
be sixteen and fifteen. Get ready for these arguments here
and now, Bruce Pearl, I think he's rooting for Akron
to get in as well, maybe to beat Miami of
Ohio to win that MAC Conference tournament. But Miami of
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Ohio would still get in with just one loss. If
Miami of Ohio was in undefeated, people would watch their
game or games they did. They would, they would they
they would be I don't know who these guys are,
but they're undefeated, and that you know, this is once again,
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it's a TV show. I bring it up every year,
even when you get matchups and it's like, oh, Bob
Knights at Texas Tech and if he wins his game,
then he gets to play Indiana. Oh what are the
odds of that? Yes, they manipulated, Yes, Mark.
Speaker 9 (32:30):
I remember vividly.
Speaker 13 (32:31):
Just had to be maybe two thousand and seven. It
was Oj Mayo's USC team against Michael Beasley's Kansas State team. Oh,
what are the odds that they're gonna put these two
top five draft picks on the same same game?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Hey, Todd, would a neutral fan.
Speaker 14 (32:43):
Be wanting to tune in to see Miama Ohio continues
staying undefeated, or to see them finally.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Lose a game.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Well, you tell me.
Speaker 14 (32:52):
I don't want to skew negative, but I think more
people would tune in to see them lose their first
game than to stay undefeated.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I hope I'm.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Rooting. No, they would root for them. It's an underdog,
It's Cinderella. Isn't that why we watch?
Speaker 9 (33:05):
Until eventually?
Speaker 15 (33:06):
You want those teams to lose so we could.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
See all Yes, yes, but Miami, Ohio would be a
great story, you know.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Paul, Yeah, I think Todd's and an Island on this
one because you root for the story and the run
to keep going. You don't want a story to end prematurely.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I think it's a great story. Yeah, yes, morph.
Speaker 13 (33:25):
The one part that hurts Miami of Ohio is that
they don't have a Steph Curry or Wally Zerbiek, a
guy that's scoring twenty five at night. They have eight
guys that score ten points a night.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yes, that damn team effort. We want stars. Boo sharing
the ball, boo, balance basketball, boo, bounce past backdoor cuts.
Speaker 14 (33:45):
Yes, Tom, When is Indiada basketball going to make a comeback?
The year Indiada was a national title. We're talking about
the Indiada who'sas as a bubble team. Have to rub
it in the whole football basketball at thatchadomy.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Now, how about we take a break more phone calls,
reg you will join us next hour we will give
you out best and worst of the weekend after this.
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Speaker 2 (34:14):
Sacramento Kings may have quit on the season, but Russell
Westbrook Junior, the third is not. He had twenty three,
twelve and eleven as the Kings beat the Bulls. He
now has two hundred and eight career triple doubles, an
NBA record. He had kind of bit oh ok stat
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of the day, brought to you by Panini America, the
official trading cards of the program. He had kind of
a tense back and forth with a reporter about you
don't know this team, you don't know me, and kind
of went back and forth there. So, still fighting the
men's college basketball title. Odds DraftKings just sent those to me.
It's duke with a slight edge over Michigan. Then my
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Arizona Wildcats, Florida, Houston, Illinois, best and worst of the weekend, Todd,
I'm going to start with you best and worst.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
My best of the weekend.
Speaker 14 (35:14):
How about some love for Tennessee State. They win the
Ohio Valley Conference, which gives them an automatic bid to
the tournament. They haven't been there since nineteen ninety four.
As far as March Madness dominating Morehead State ninety three
to sixty seven.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Worst, I'm giving it to Great Britain.
Speaker 14 (35:27):
Sorry, Great Britain in the World Baseball Class against USA
after hitting a home run off Threek Schooble on the
first pitch of the game, it happens, went two for
twenty eight, seventeen strikeouts, no walks, not good. Good.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, that pitch that Treek schoobled through, I mean it
was meatball city. It was like, oh, I'm gonna get
that first pitch over, you know, just getting started, and
all of a sudden it is kind of belled high
and he belt at it. Seaton Best and worst of
the weekend. My best is the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Actually they got kind of a haul for Max Crosby.
The people thought that their price they were asking was
a little too steep, but they found somebody to step
up for it, and it seems like they're doing the
right things. A lot of pressure now to do the
right thing with those draft picks, but that that was
a good move by them. And my worst Joe Burrow
now in division has to face Max Crosby, TJ.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Watt, and Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
If he was looking forward to next season, he should
not be, Yes, Todd.
Speaker 14 (36:24):
But Joe Burrow was also seen recently with Jessica Alba
at a casino table, which is something with noted.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I know I did see that photo. I doubled down.
He Marvin Bested worst.
Speaker 13 (36:40):
Best of the weekend Victor wibin Yama in the Spurs
coming back against the LA Clippers in Wemby getting emotional.
I mean he was. That dude is different and he
saved the All Star Game. I mean, he took the
Americans to the limit in the Olympics. I mean he's
just on a tear right now. Worst of the weekend
my Yukon Husky's losing to eleven and nineteen marks. Ok,
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they shot three for twenty four for three point range
to end the regular season.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And your coach gets fined twenty five thousand dollars bumping
in a fish.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
He kept this school.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, I wonder if they suspend him. I know that
they immediately came out and said twenty five thousand dollars fine,
and then he's afterwards, he goes, I don't think I
bumped in, but if I did, they said I did,
Then I guess I did. No, you did, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
It felt like more of a grazing than a bumping.
I don't know if there's any difference in price. And
I'm objective about this. I'm not a Yukon of fan.
It felt like a grazing, but definitely contact. Okay, best
and worst two best Nebraska Cornhuskers basketball. I watched them.
That's been a good program for a while. Now they're
they're twenty six and five. We talk about football schools
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becoming basketball schools. And then Missouri Valley Conference Northern Iowa
four games or wins four days to get the ticket
to the big Dance as.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
They call it.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, they get to punch their ticket. As they like
to say, good program, you get to punch your ticket.
Brian and Sacramento, Hi. Brian, best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
A Hey, Dan, thanks for taking my call first time,
long time five eleven two o five, Thank you. Awesome.
That's the weekend.
Speaker 11 (38:23):
My nephew, freshman pitcher for Sack State going on the
road to LSU and recording not one but two saves
Saturday and Sunday last night, so that was very very cool.
Speaker 10 (38:36):
Worst of the.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
Weekend learning that college baseball still has a ten run
skunk rule Friday night, LSU smoking Sack State, not getting
to see my nephew pitch.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
All right, Thank you. Brian Matt in Ohio.
Speaker 15 (38:50):
Hi Matt, morning guys.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
How are you spectacular?
Speaker 10 (38:57):
Watching the World Baseball Classic? What a despair any of
the teams Brazil against the United States. Brazil has a
construction worker on the team. And also one of the
greatest things was Joseph Contreras, a seventeen year old from Brazil,
actually gets Aaron Judge to ground out into a double play.
So it's pretty cool to see that.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, and I'm watching a picture for Panama and like
it kind of startled me. I thought, like Bartolo Cologne
had a brother very similar size. Oh no, yes, he
didn't really cut a figure of a baseball player, but
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I think you can get away with that as a pitcher,
And he was getting away with that for quite some time.
I was texting Mario the eyes and the ears of
the show, and he, of course rooting for Puerto Rico.
He goes, I can't believe he's getting us out with
that junk, and I know he was dealing. As they say,
Alex in Michigan, Hi, Alex, what's on your mind?
Speaker 16 (40:05):
Yeah, a man, I'm looking at two him maybe maybe
being a replacement for mag Jones if they trade him.
I think he can go there and maybe get some
help on having an offense that supports him, the system
that supports him, and maybe he could have some value after.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Well, anybody who's going to go to the Niners to
kind of have a pit stop a reset will benefit.
If you're there with Kyle Shanahan, you will benefit as
a quarterback, Mac Jones, Sam Darnold just to name a few.
But you know, Tua can end up in Atlanta. Yeah.
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I mean, if you have you build your offense for
left handed quarterback, now you have two of them. Uh
Andy and Buffalo. Hi Andy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (40:57):
Hey?
Speaker 15 (40:57):
Dan, thanks for taking my call. Best of the I
know it's the start of the NFL new year. But
here in Buffalo, everyone's ecstatic about the Sabers their victory
last night over the Lightning. They are now in full
possession of first place in the Atlantic Division, looking a
lot like they are going to end their fourteen year
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playoff drought. And last night's game had everything you want
in a hockey game. Four fights in the first period,
eight seven final score. And I do have to mention
my five day old daughter, Reagan Mary. She has only
seen the Sabers win seven and zero since the Olympic break,
So thanks for taking my call. Go Sabers.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
All right, Andy, that was wild just seeing the highlights.
But there should be an app that says, hey, tune
into the Sabers Lightning game. It is chaos. Pauly tooid
with that idea of coming up with an app where
it kind of alerts you to here's where to find it.
We're working on it or workshopping. Then Reggie Miller will
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join us, coming up in about twenty five minutes from now,
final hour in this Monday, after this