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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour on this Thursday, Dan and the Dan Ete
Dan Patrick Show. Coming up, We're going to talk to
Matt Hilton, you know Matt Hilton, bee Keeper, Blue Sky
Pest Control. He'll join us after coming to the rescue
with the Arizona Diamondbacks Dodger game the other night. They
had a swarm of bees. They call him in and
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he comes to the rescue. Crowd's watching the pressure that
he had on, probably more pressure than anybody who played
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question for the final Hour seat. We just got a very.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Important voice weighing in on the poll question we've had
from the last hour. This is Brad. He said, I
was a up yes driver for thirty years. This is
bite number fourteen of my career. Oh boy, I'd still
take a dog instead of a swarm of bees.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, well, having experienced both life threatening situations, I would
probably take the dog that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Fell has been bitten fourteen times by dogs on the job,
and he'd still rather face a fifteenth dog bite than
a swarm of bees.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Does your dog bite? Nor? I thought you said your
dog does not bite. That is not my dog.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
See, you delivered mail for a living. Was there a
policy that if you saw a dog on a property
weren't comfortable, that you did not have to deliver that
person's mail.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Uh? Yeah, yeah, if there was like a dog and
you couldn't get there, yeah, absolutely, But most people knew
that people consider their mail delivery very important, very important,
so they usually make it clear that like, the dog
will be inside.
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if you were going to own a bee keeping or
(02:17):
a b removal company, todd, do you have any names
that maybe you would want to call your company, I
would call it.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Be good to them, and it would be for gently removing.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
The Okay, okay, I was thinking of be gon say
like Beyonce. Yeah yeah, big goonse. What do you think.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
That works?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
If you like, it'd be nice like a blop or
something or around a mood. Thanks, ton, mind your business,
mind your business. Thanks good. Yeah, sorry, it's it's okay.
This is now. This is safe space right here. You
can say whatever you want to. There's no criticism. This
(03:03):
is this is we're not scripted. Well normally we're scripted,
but we're not right now.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, you know how sometimes we stumble onto something and
then it really just rolls for like the next like
ninety seconds. We just keep ripping off funny names. Yes,
this is the opposite of this is.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
The okay, bei Gonce? Thank you?
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Yes, Mark, I'm scared to say so. I'm acting like
a bee right now.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh, okay, like a bee like no, I got it, No,
I got it. I don't know if I appreciated that.
You're better than that, aren't you.
Speaker 7 (03:40):
I'm not better than that?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
All right, So poll question for the final hour is
going to be what Seaton o' connor.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
You know what I've been kicking around one here? Or
where do we put Travis Kelcey in the greatest tight
ends of all time?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Number? One? You do? I think? I think when it's
all setting down, it'll be the the top tight end. Now,
if I'm going to look at numbers, then I'm going
to go Tony Gonzalez. If I'm going to say, well,
this tight end changed the game, I'd probably go John
Mackie back in the sixties or Manio.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Gates up there.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Antonio Gates. Yeah, but you know they didn't. He didn't
play in playoff games or Super Bowl. Tony didn't either.
The fact that Kelsey has played one is a great
postseason performer. Then I mean, Gronk is there, you know,
but Gronk had a couple of years where he'd have
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like sixty catches with seven touchdowns, and then he'd have
ninety catches and it felt like every other year he
was banged up. We'll get back to that topic coming up.
He's Matt Hilton, a branch manager from Blue Sky Past
Control in Phoenix. Fifteen years there as a bee keeper.
Blue Sky, by the way, the official Past Control providers
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for Chase Stadium came to the rescue. So do you
get rid of bees or are you a do you?
Are you a bee keeper?
Speaker 8 (05:07):
So I'm in past control. People keep calling me a
bee keeper, and that's just kind of ran with the media,
but I'm in past control.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, okay, Well, being a journalist, I wanted to find
out it felt like you were handling situations, not somebody
who was, you know, collecting bees. So tell me where
you were when you got the call and how it
was explained to you. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
So I was actually at my son's t ball game.
He's six years old. They had just started their last
game of the season and Chase Chase Field is a
pretty high profile client that has a few numbers on
speed dial, and mind being one of them. So they
called me, just said hey, this whole game is being
held up right now because of the swarm and we
needed to get out here. So with that, I just
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I hopped in my car, cruised home, hopped in my chocks,
and cruised out there.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Okay, what's the first order of business?
Speaker 8 (06:00):
So once I got to Poyd and got going, I
called up the Chase Field guys and just kind of
got some more information found out it it was pretty
high up there, a good twenty five thirty feet. So
just make sure that I just told them, like, hey,
let's make sure that the scissor lift is there, that
we have fault protection on site. People are cleared about
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about fifty seventy five feet because these are Africanized honey
bees that we have here, and so it could be
a pretty dangerous situation. So just getting everything ready to go.
That was an order of operations number one.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So these are the african bees.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Yeah, Africanized honey bees.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
People call them killer bees and why are they so dangerous?
Speaker 8 (06:45):
So you have like the normal Italian European strains of
honey bees that beekeepers use. They're very docile, very easy
to work with. You'll see, you know, videos of beekeepers
doing stuff with them with no be suit. Africanized high
bees are a specific strain of honeybee that is extremely aggressive,
much much more aggressive than what you see bee keepers keeping.
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And so they're more dangerous because of the behavior that
they exhibit. They'll chase you a lot further, they're just
very aggressive.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Okay, how long does it take them to build a nest?
And how did somebody not see what they were building.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
So you have kind of two forms of bees. You
have bees that are in a colony that have established
honeycomb and that's their kind of their home plate. They
go do their pollinating, come home at night to the
same place. So you have a colony, and then you
have a swarm. This was a swarm. When a colony
gets large enough, a large chunk of bees will break
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off and cruise out with a new queen bee. And
in that swarm, it's just literally a cloud of bees.
Sometimes in Arizona, you'll just be driving down the road
during the season and you'll literally just kind of run
into a big swarm of bees.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And when that.
Speaker 8 (08:04):
Cloud kind of finds a place to hang out, they'll
just all clump together and essentially a ball of bees,
and they'll have the queen in the middle just protecting her.
That's what we saw there. So it turns in from
a cloud of bees to a clump of bees within
a matter of minutes once they decided to start landing.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
How much pressure did you feel, Oh, man, a lot.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
I've done this hundreds of times, be treatments, but to
do it in this type of scenario with you know,
thirty thousand people watching a lot more now that all
this stuff has happened. There was a lot of pressure
because I knew if this went sideways, someone could get
hurt and the game could also get canceled. That was
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definitely on the table. So it was pretty nerve wracking.
But I'm just glad it all went smoothly.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And then when did you find out that you were
going to throw at the first pitch? Right after I.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Come down, came down from the decissor lift, and I
was pretty shocked by that. It's like, that's that's a
big deal. I don't know who you had lined up
for this, but I'll take a spot.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Where'd the bees go? We took him offsite, so you
just in it in in what some kind of compartment
or box or what? How do you take him home sick?
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Yeah, so after we vackum him up, we just take
him out to a different area where we can then
just just just release them from there.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You should have worn the bee keeper suit when you're
throwing out the first pitch with the yeah, the head
on everything.
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Yeah, you know, I you should have milt it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You should have milked it for all it's worth. I mean,
come on, this is your moment, this is your fifteen minutes. Man.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Well, I did have the bees on. I just I
had to throw some flare in throwing the cap off
when I went to actually fitch, you know, I had to.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I had to see good.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
Are you well?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It didn't help my pitch. Okay, have you become a
local celebrity here now? I feel like it.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
It's a I don't feel deep down like to celebrity
it at all, but it's crazy all the comments, the
messages and all this. That's that's being geared my way.
I'm just kind of eating it up, just just enjoying
the rival.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
I can.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Now you're the official b person for the Arizona Diamondbacks.
I guess.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
So.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Yeah, there's a couple of us that Blue Sky pest control.
I do it for him, but you know, I'll I'll
own that title for a bit.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Okay, the worst situation you've ever been in in your
job as pest control.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
Oh gosh, that would have to be bed bugs situations.
Bed bugs are they're they're a tough they're a tough
insect to control, and sometimes we run into situations where
people will have thousands and thousands of bad bugs and
you're going to their mattress away from a wall and
you can't see the wall through all the bad bugs.
(11:05):
Those just those jobs make your skin crawl, but you
know someone's.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Got to do it. Well, you're a hero, Matt. Congratulations,
glad you survived and uh and good luck.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
That's Matt Hilton. He is a branch manager for Blue
Sky Pest Control in Phoenix. Fifteen years there. He's not
a bee keeper, but he will get rid of your
bees and uh live to tell about it. Yeah, a
lot of pressure there. Everybody's waiting, everybody's watching. You're trying
to get rid of these bees and then you vacuum
them up. They're like take them out. But do you
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get a hoover or something where you just suck up
these bees and then take them outside and go why
be free?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
These are little stinkers, man, They like sneak attack.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You know you're looking and you're like, no, I think
we're okay. I think we're okay. Yeah, you know, like
they could just come right out.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, you know worse. But you see those guys that
you know, they're so confident when they go into these
situations with bees, and bees are all over them or
on their hands, and they have no issue whatsoever with it.
I just feel like, what if somebody goes rogue here
and all of a sudden, you know, one of the
bees says to another bee says another ba, how about we?
(12:20):
Uh about we go after Charlie here start stinging them
a little bit. Although they die as soon as they sting, right,
is that true? I think? Is that right? With most bees?
They die when they sting you? Anybody? I always thought that,
Oh you didn't.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I always heard that like, once they sting you, then
they die.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But I don't know if all strands like the African bees,
do they die when they sting you? Yes, Paulin.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I wonder what the mentality is or psychology of going
into this pest control business. Is it because you hate
pests and critters or love them and want to dispose
of them in a proper fashion? Like, what's what's the
mentality of someone who gets into this job. If you
want to be a police officer a mentality or fireman
you have a mentality. If you want to be in pest.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Control, maybe you just like helping out people.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, I think it's just seeing a need that people
are always going to have and be like, I could
probably make a living doing that.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah. Yeah, you know it's always going to be bug
There's always going to be bugs and critters, and people
don't like dealing with that steady business.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Probably, Yes, maybe a traumatic experience. You had a kid,
and you want to give back to the world, and
now that you got past your fear for now on,
I want to I don't want anyone to go through
what I went through when I got stung by all
those bees when I was six.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think if I got I would never go into
You know, my wife had beehives and she was getting
honey out of that and I told her, I said, look,
I got stung probably over a hundred times by bees
at one at one point one afternoon, I said, I'm
not comfortable having the beehives around. She didn't listen to me.
(13:51):
We had a couple of them out there, and you
find these rogue bees flying around, like, can you control
your bees please? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
See, when I was little, my older brother David convinced
me to sit on a bee because I would just
kill it. He was just like, dude, no, just like
sit back real fast and you'll kill it, and uh,
and I did sit back on it and it stung
me and it hurt a lot. And my brother was like, like,
you didn't do it fast enough.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Do it again.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
And my mom's like, David, why did you tell him
to do that? You didn't do it fast enough.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
If I'm your mom, then I would have said, all right, David,
you do him, You show him how to do it.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
If I'm my mom, I'm like, you're an idiot, Patrick.
Why did you so you sat on it? You dumb ass?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
All right, let me take a break and get the
phone calls coming up, and uh, once again, he's not
a beekeeper, Todd not no, no.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Well, a lot of articles calling him a beekeeper, but
they are wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
He's not a beekeeper. He doesn't keep them. You can't
be a bee keeper if you don't keep.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
The bee That's a very valid point of me.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Thank you. Uh, we'll take a break. We're back after
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Speaker 2 (15:40):
He was on short notice. We were trying to come
up with if we were a bee keeper or we
got rid of bees, what would we call our company?
And I said be Gonce and Fritzy wasn't ready to
give us his names for his company. And you want
to run through a couple of these.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Here's my doc rivers impersonation.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
No no, no, no, no no, you were late on the Rivers.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I've got to be or not to be mine. Your
b's and q's, okay, B and A. I don't know
if that's a more of a strip club cutnt forguse.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That, honey, I shrunk the bees way to be staying
in a prayer using our instincts.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
And easy as a b CEE. Call them up and
they'll get it done quickly. Okay, serviceable.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
How about wannabe wanta be? Yeah? Like like if you're
a bee keeper, want to be?
Speaker 12 (16:28):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Thank you to all right? So, uh we got our
final hour poll question correct Seaton.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, we're kicking around tight ends. And where Travis Kelcey
fits on that list? Is he, by far and away
the number one?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't. I don't think by far and away. I
think people might still acknowledge Gronk uh Tony Gonzalez. You can't.
You can't ignore what Tony did now statistically Antonio Gates
was was incredible.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Those feel like the four that come up the most
is Gronk, Travis Kelcey, Tony Gonzalez, and Antonio Gates. They
seem to be right at the top of most lists.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, they're trend setters because I go back to John
Mackie and Mike Ditka. It used to be your tight
end was just basically another blocker. You might get a
few catches a year, but they were able to, you know,
catch a pass and take it. You know, they could
go fifty or sixty yards. John Mackie certainly was. Now
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there are other players. Ozzie Newsom was wonderful. There's tons
of great tight ends, and I think trying to separate
what modern era old school Kellen Winslow was spectacular. Kellen
Winslow felt like the first tight end to line up,
not as a tight end, maybe split out a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I find the era conversation, especially with tight ends, to
be really interesting, you know, because some tight ends are
much more physical than others, like Travis Kelcey might not
be the most physical tight end, or certainly Rob Gronkowski was,
though he was super physical. Other guys are more wide
receivery than they were linemen.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah. Yeah, Like George Kittle is sort of old school
from the standpoint he's a really good blocker, but he's
also a dangerous pass catcher. Yes, yes, Mart.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Growing up in the nineties and living here, I saw
a lot of Ben Coates and Shannon Sharps seemed to
be more the complete opposite. Where he seemed like a
wide receiver. He seemed like he was too big and
burly to be a wide receiver, but not like fast
enough or vice versa. He wasn't like burly enough to
be a tight end.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Shannon pretty good size, oh.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Yeah for sure, but becos a like a like an
offensive lineman though.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, I mean, Shannon's Hall of Famer, so he's one
of the greatest of all time. Yeah, Yet you're not
going to put a tight end in the Hall of
Fame unless they truly were, you know, hall of Fame worthy.
It's not like you go, well, we got to put
in a tight end or two, you know, like we
have with Kickers. We got to put in somebody. Eventually,
these guys were great, could change a game. But now
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it feels like you have to have that tight end,
like you expect to have a really good pass catching
tight end. Kelsey though, because of his popularity and he's
played in big games, and he's won Super Bowls, and
he's in commercials, he hosted Saturday Night Live. Like, you
throw all of that together and that can help you
emerge as the best tight end. You know, Gronk got
(19:31):
a lot of publicity. You're playing with Brady, you're playing
in big games, commercials, you become famous. Now if you
ask the purest who's the best tight end of all time,
they might not say those two guys. They might say
somebody else that that's the way you played the position.
Not you were the most popular, but you played the
position correctly. But Jason kelce Travis Kelcey, they're both going
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to the Hall of Fame. Travis will go down as
one of the greats of all time. He should and
Jason will probably go down as one of the great
centers of all time. And rightfully so pretty good family.
You know, if Tiki got in and you have Ron
day in, like you know, how many siblings get in
in the Hall of Fame? Yes, s Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
It feels like if you're if you're a major part
of a play that the game is considering out long
because it's so successful, you should be in the Hall
of Fame just for that, just that alone. You're like, yeah,
that push though he's kind of killing us, the tush push.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I'm just I don't know why somebody else can't replicate it,
because it's such a weapon. You would think that somebody
would say, all right, we're going to have our own,
Like why wouldn't you develop that because you're basically saying,
all right, we can get two yards, we're going to
get a first down. You know the percentages are extremely
high and the defense hasn't figured out how to stop it.
(20:51):
Why wouldn't you want to incorporate something like that?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I think you know why?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Because there's only one Jason Kelson. Huh. Well, is Philadelphia
going to do it again this year without him? Probably
not as successfully. I'll tell you that. That's what I
want to say. What happens then? JJ? And Illinois? Hi? JJ?
What's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (21:13):
Hey Dan?
Speaker 9 (21:14):
How are you doing?
Speaker 13 (21:14):
Five ten, one hundred and sixty five pounds? I have
a comment. I have a comment about Darvin Ham. But first,
in honor of mad Dog Russo being on, I want
to say that when I was in high school, I
was not allowed to watch High Heat on MLB Networks
because Mad Dog drove my mom nuts. But my comment
on Darvin Ham is is I'm not a very old guy,
(21:36):
but I'm old enough to remember when Frank Vogel was
the problem in Los Angeles, and I'm old enough to
remember when Luke Walton was the problem in Los Angeles,
And now we're being told Darvin Ham is the problem
in Los Angeles. So at what point do we point
the finger at the front office and say, hey, maybe
it's you guys that are the problem.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Well, they're not going to fire themselves. JJ. I'm glad
you survived the trauma of listening and watching Mad Dog
russo at least your mom survived. Yeah, you know, I
wouldn't have hired Luke. You know, great basketball lineage, but
you know, was he ready for You got to be
(22:17):
ready for some of these jobs. It's like the Yankees job,
It's you know, the Laker job, the Cowboys. You got
to be ready for those jobs. And Frank Vogel, all right,
you want a title. He's a defensive minded coach. Darvin Ham,
you know you spent a long time being an assistant coach.
I'm glad he got his chance, but I don't think
his chance is going to last that long. And you
(22:38):
have incidents where players can say, or critics can say,
the front office can say, that was not a good
strategy that we had. His rotations weren't great, substitutions weren't great.
You know, the lineups that he played together. See, you
can actually look and say, you know, we got out coached.
And I think that's the situation. I don't think I
(23:00):
don't think Darvin will survive this. And here's Frank Vogel
may not survive Phoenix after one season. Let's see Dexter
in South Carolina. Hig Dexter, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (23:14):
Hey? Boys?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
In a five eleven two hunch. Yep, I've got a
dog and a bee story for you. Dog paper delivery
of the starletger Seaton, So thank you for your service.
Dog ripped my jeans. I went crying, rode my bike
home crying with my parents. Secondly, playing in a golf
(23:36):
tournament to med open at Bowling Green and I hit
it in the woods, kiped it out, got it on
the green. Unfortunately I did hit one of those in
whole bee things and they all went up my shorts.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Couldn't finish. Oh boy, Yeah, I don't know what those
bees are. They have their nest in the ground and
they might be hornets. I just know that I stepped
on one and I was it was over. I could
hear that like they were mad, Like it felt like
the buzz was louder as they were coming after me,
(24:11):
like they were turning it up the volume a little bit,
and they were whizzing by me and just like diving
into me and stinging me. And I, you know, I was,
you know, running like I'm Willem Dafoe and platoon as
they're stinging me, and I ran to my friend's house
(24:35):
and as mom said, I have to get you in ice,
and they threw me in the bathtub and she just
got as much ice as possible because they were worried
with all that poison in you. Oh my god, But
I'm okay. I'm okay. Chris and d C. Hi, Chris,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (24:56):
Hey, I'm at work. The phone call. I was just
wondering again. An update from yesterday Seaton's new tires. I
was this commute home yesterday. It must have felt like
a brand new vehicle. And I don't know if it
was said or not, but I might want to get
the alignment check out. That tirewear looks abnormal.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, the the tirewear, at least on a couple of
those tires looked pretty bad. But Seaton, we had the
mobile tire installation with tire Rack and came in less
than an hour and got your new tires.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, right home was was gorge uneventful. It was uneventful. Yeah,
I've got an appointment to get my alignment looked at.
So we should be we should be ready for summer.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Open up the window.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I like that. I like that. I saw this story yesterday.
Doug Gottlieb threw this out on his show, and he
was talking about Caitlin Clark in her form and Doug said,
the amount of work at Tech takes to be consistent
through her mechanical flaw is really impressive. If you were
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advising her, would you fix it in the off season?
And so he sent that out now is you might
expect there are a lot of people who send some
things back Doug's way. They talked about Doug's career where
he was not a great free throw shooter. He wasn't
a great shooter percentage wise, not a great kind Yeah,
and so he was a great passer. So somebody said,
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Caitlin Clark scored three, three and twenty one more points
than Doug Gottlieb did in college. All right, that's fair.
Let's see breaks every college scoring record possible. And then
it says, men, I should fix her. What Doug is
talking about here? And look, Doug loves that somebody's going
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to talk about this. I mean, this is what Doug does.
He puts it out there. He wants response, he wants
you know, he probably subscribes to any publicity is good publicity.
I don't subscribe to that. I'm not throwing it out
there just so somebody will talk about it.
Speaker 12 (27:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I'm looking at her shot, and I've always looked at
her shot, and she probably started out because she couldn't
shoot it in a normal way strength wise, that she
needed a little bit of help. So she starts on
the left side and gives her momentum to then shoot.
This is what we sometimes fail to realize. It's like
Jim Furick has one of the strangest golf swings ever.
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But if I take where he ends up with the ball,
it's going to be the same as everybody else. If
I take Caitlin Clark with where she ends up with
her shot, with her hand, with her form, she's there
with anybody else. Would you change Reggie Miller's shot if
I'm gonna, you know, go with Doug's logic here, Yes,
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Reggie had a weird follow through. I just want to
know where are you when you release the ball? There
are a lot of people who look good shooting. Where
are you when you release the ball and Caitlin starts
on the left? Would you change Kevin Durant shot He
starts on the left and brings it over to the right.
All right, So you know Doug's trolling people and wants
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people to respond to it, and you know people then
get personal with Doug. You know what Doug is saying
is all right? Now, First of all, would you fix
it in the off season? Are you trying to tell
me after she's twenty two years of age, like and
now she's going to change her Why would I want
her to change your shot unless you said she's not
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gonna be able to get her shot off in the
pros in the WNBA. If that were the case and
she needed to release it quicker, okay, I would at
least understand where the tweet's coming from. But by all accounts,
she hits shots from a variety of places, variety of
angles with people all over her, and offenses are defenses
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that were geared to stop you. I'm okay with that,
Like I'm okay with the shot, and now trying to
change it that would be hard pressed to do. And Frankly,
it'd be silly, but I get it. If you look
at it and you go, man, that's not good form.
It's not how it starts, but how it finishes. That's
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when it's pure. Yeah, Pauling, I'm.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Looking at the post by Doug and it's a photo
of Kaitlyn Clark practice, and it's a photo so you're
not seeing the form. You're seeing one capture the form
where it's a little to the left of her face.
One thing Doug said is if you were advising her,
would you fix it the shot in the offseason? If
he said, if you were advising her, would you do
things to improve her form in the off season? Maybe
looked at differently. Tiger Woods had a golf coach, a
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swing coach his entire career, and you can make the
case that his swing was perfect in the nineties and
two thousands, but you're always trying to improve. I think
if Doug would have phrased like, hey, Caitlyn Clark is
one of the greatest scores and shooters of all time?
Could she make it better by little adjustments, they have
been more well received. Also, Doug's an easy target because
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of his struggles in college you know, so I think
his wording was misaligned.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Now, somebody did say, I really don't understand why Doug
is taking heat for this. It's a mechanical flaw. Shooting
coaches would never teach this approach. It is even more
miraculous that she is so incredibly consistent with her stroke
despite the cross body form. That's true, but it's not
one of those if it's not broken, you don't need
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to fix it. I mean, it's not broken. I don't
need to fix it. Could I fine tune it to
get it a little bit quicker? That'd be the only
thing that I would ever think about with that. The
last thing you want to do is and when I
get ready to take a shot, I'm gonna start thinking, No,
you take the shot all those hours, thousands of hours,
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and you groove your your golf swing. You know how
I'll throw you throwing a football. I don't want her
thinking I want her to shooting. But you're right if Doug,
Doug didn't do well with the wording of this. You
know when you say fix when you just set the
all time scoring record and your range is never in
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question and you get your shot off too.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Yeah, and Dan, you know better than I do. But
there is no one shot form for basketball. It's like
if you watch baseball and baseball players. I watch a
game and there's eight different batting stances, There's ten different
follow throughs and swings. There's good players. Remember Kevin Euclis,
he was a really good hitter for a while with
the Red Sox. I don't think anyone would teach that
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form to anybody. Seemed like he did okay with it.
You remember Eric Davis in the eighties, the great hitter
with the Reds. He had his bat way up here.
I don't know if that's a form that you'd advise.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well, even pitchers with their delivery, their wind up, it's
where are you when you deliver the baseball? Like Cadeo Nomo.
I wouldn't recommend that you did that, But where was
he when he delivered the pitch? Because that's all this
comes down to. You can have the strangest backswing on
your golf swing, where are you when you're at the ball,
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and you can put Jim Furick's contact with other great
golfers in the history of the game, you're right there.
That's all that matters. And with Caitlin, where are you
look at the follow through like, that's what's beautiful about it? Yes?
Does she need help or did she need help? Probably
growing up getting a little bit more momentum to be
able to shoot those shots. Yes, but until she stopped,
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until all of a sudden, she can't get a shot off. Fix.
Fix is the wrong word. Tweak. I'll let you have tweak. Improve,
I'll let you have that, Yes, Don.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
And this is the guy to try to fix a
Ray Allen shot.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I did, and I did think if he had seenor earlier. Yeah,
but what I said to Ray Allen was true. He
had the ball in the palm of his hand when
he was in there shooting with me, and I said,
you shouldn't have it on the palm in your hand.
Now he's one of the greatest shooters of all time. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (33:10):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
What makes that even more amusing is I just saw
the other day, maybe even today. It was a clip
of Ray Allen giving a speech talking about how he
it didn't get to where he is because of talent.
He got there because of hard work. Okay, he worked
his ass off and he worked constantly on refining his craft,
over and over and over every single day. Yeah, putting
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up thousands and thousands of shots, and if only he
had known to leave a little bit of space between
his palm and the ball.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, he might have been Yeah, he might have been
that much better. Yeah, Yes, I believe you're being serious
with this suit.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Imagine like he's a fella who like looks back on
his life and be like, man, I worked my ass
off and it worked, Like I got here, I did whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
In the Dad's like, you know you're doing that wrong?
You don't, you don't put the ball on the palmere.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Hey, I'm sorry, Dan, Did you just tell me that
what I just did whole life? I think I'm doing wrong?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Ray? Is that what you said?
Speaker 12 (34:05):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Ray could have been one of the all time greats.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, you could have been better. Ray.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
You know you're doing that right?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah? Oh my god. His reaction was awesome. Alright, alright,
let me take a break.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Hey, mister Buffett, here's some financial advice.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Last call for phone calls back after this.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Charles Barkley will join us on the show tomorrow. Get
a couple of phone calls in here. Got some games
coming up tonight, the Nicks a slight underdog and the
Pacers an eight point favored against the Bucks. Let's see
Donnie in Colorado. Hey Donnie, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (34:52):
Hey doing Dan? How you doing? Brother?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Great? Donnie good?
Speaker 9 (34:56):
Six three? First time? Short time. Back tracking a little
bit to the tight end conversation, I do apologize because
I came in about halfway through the segment. But as
a diehard Niners fan for the last fifteen years or
so I've been I've had the privilege of watching some
really good tight end play with Kittle and Davis. But
my curiosity is where would you Where would your rate
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Jimmy Graham in there? Because back in the day with Breeze,
he was pretty dang unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
He had a window there of about what five years
where that was that was pretty good run with Breeze.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, he when he was in New Orleans
about his third year in the league, he started hitting
it and he had about a six year run where
he was in five or six Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think Hall of Fame worthy. It
felt like it was Vernon Davis versus him, like Jimmy Graham,
Vernon Davis, who's the best tight end in football? He
was good, he was he was a force. He had
to deal with him. Gary and Vermont. Hi, Gary, what's
on your mind?
Speaker 9 (36:00):
Yeh?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Hey Dad?
Speaker 11 (36:02):
Hey, I was calling about the the name of the
bee company.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
I was thinking beat day.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Be safe. I like that, Gary b e E safe,
simple enough. Thank you. Tom curtin Michigan, Hi.
Speaker 11 (36:20):
Kurt, Hey, good morning Dan, it is still morning. As
a listener of your show, I happened to be a
beekeeper myself. So okay, it's quite it's quite fun. Just
a couple little quick things. The worker bees sting, they
do lose their stinger, but when they sting, they also
released like a a cent or a it's called a
(36:41):
pheromone that attracts the others. And so the more you
stuck get stung, the more you get stung. It's crazy.
And so also I had a rip in my hood
and I had a got some bees in there. So
I guess you could just call me the Jerryott Rice
and beekeepers.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Thanks all right, thank you, thank you, Kurt. And Jerry
Rice wants had to be in his helmet still caught
the pass. Richard in Iowa. Hi, Richard, what's on your
mind today, Dan Richard?
Speaker 14 (37:12):
Yeah, Hey Dan, listen, long time listener. You're the best.
I couldn't get in earlier with about the uniforms. How
about the Los Angeles Kings. They have the best uniform
in all of sports, that purple and yellow yep, very
crown on the chest.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, well it helps when Gretzky went there that, you know,
you kind of rediscovered that uniform. They won a Stanley Cup,
although that's been about ten eleven years ago. Then they
just got eliminated. But that La King's just that that's
a sharp looking sweater, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
The Kings are mostly black white, silver. Now they occasionally
go back to that old purple.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yeah. Nice, nice, Let me see, Oh, this ain't sports
history poll a couple.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Nineteen seventy, Diane Crump becomes the first female jockey to
ride in the Kentucky Derby. Pete Rose in nineteen eighty
eight of the Reds was suspended thirty games. Thirty games
for pushing an umpire. That's monstrous. Yeah, And Mike Cameron
and two of the Mariners hit four home runs against
the White Sox.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, he actually hit two home runs in the same inning,
and then Brett Boone hit two home runs in that
same inning as well. They ended up winning fifteen to
four over the White Sox. Let's see anything else in here.
On this date in nineteen seventy eight, the Houston Oilers
select Earl Campbell first pick in the NFL draft. Jared
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in Georgia, Hi, Jared, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Hey VP?
Speaker 12 (38:48):
Hey, first time, long time sick four to forty, Thank Mark.
I got two questions real fast one with Phoenix's run
looking pretty bad this year? Do you think the era
of the Big three is over? So Miami, Boston, Brooklyn?
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Do you think they should just cut out the Big three?
Four or three guys? And number two is completely unrelated.
My wife would be having my third daughter in September
named Georgia, and she will we will have three daughters
under the age of three. Do you have any advice
for when they get older?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Well, if you shoot the first guy who comes over
to date your daughter, then word will get around the neighborhood.
Then you don't have to worry about that. Three girls
under the age of three. Wow, Just just be patient
and listen and that'll that's at least the head start
(39:53):
have a sense of humor, be patient, and make sure
you give your wife a lot of breaks. There, let's
go around the room. What we learned on the program?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Todd?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Would you learn today?
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Lynn in Colorado says the only way to really keep
bears out of your backyard put up goalposts.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Okay, see O'Connor. What did you learn today?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Christopher mad Dog Russo's figuring out the tech thing. Yes,
he got a good team around him.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
He had his wife there and his daughter there trying
to figure out how to zoom. Marvin, would you learn today?
Speaker 7 (40:24):
Mad Dog combed his hair just for you.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
No, usually it looks like he's the uh scientist in
Back to the Future. His hair is like all over
the place. Paulie, what did you learn?
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Watch out for those Africanized honeybees.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, they mean business. Todd? What did I learn?
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Rog in Chicago thinks Paul Judges in the hole are
very good and the Clippers should consider him moving on
from him.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Right. Final results of the poll question Satan.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
You know what most people want? No part of beast things.
It turns out people are very much afraid of instead
of a dog instead of a dog bite. Yeah, yeah, what.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
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