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Dan gets some sage advice as he prepares to give a speech at his daughter’s wedding. And NFL insider Mike Sando drops by to defend his NFL QB tiers which was just published.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Ets
Dan Patrick Show. B Jon Robinson, come on down. You're
now the highest paid running back in the sport, at
least for the time being until Jimior Gibbs of the
Lions gets his contract. But earlier today, about two and
a half hours ago, Djon Robinson and the Falcons signed
a deal that is going to bring him with incentives

(00:28):
up to twenty five million dollars a year. Sa Quon
Barkley is second on the list at twenty point six million,
then Christy McCaffrey at nineteen million. We say good morning.
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(00:50):
NFL writer for The Athletic Mike Sando, has a deep
dive on the quarterback list. We love quarterback list in
late July and early August, so thank you Mike for
putting that out. We have preseason football coming up. That'll
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Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yes, Paul Dan one tidbit on the Thursday night Hall
of Fame game, you know, starting for the Panthers at
quarterback Marvin's favorite quarterback, Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Kenny Pickett, all right, small hands you night, Let's give
you my hand here? Yay? Now I was given Kenny
pit get a hand, not you, Marvin. Okay, Kenny Pickett, Yes, Marvin.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I just cannot believe. Kenny Pickett is the reason why
people come up to me, put their hands up and
want to measure. It just happened, just one random morning.
Ray wanted to measure hands and I was like, come on,
just do it.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
And it changed your life.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
It changed seems life, and it changed my life simultaneously.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Because Kenny Pickett had hand size that was under nine
and Ray big day. Ray goes, why don't we just
measure everybody's hands in here? And I thought for sure
everybody thought that Seatan was going to win. And all
of a sudden and the and we did it live,
so we didn't know the I didn't even know the
end results. It's like the person with the smallest hands,

(02:48):
Marvin and Seatan. I don't know if he's ever been
that happy. I mean maybe with getting married and having
you know, the birth of his son, but that's probably it. Yeah,
Paulie Dan.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I just went back and looked at the twenty twenty
two NFL combine, the scouting and Kenny Pickett during measurement
day his hand size was eight and one half inches.
Dan the only draftee under eight inches eight nine inches
at the quarterback position. And there was a revelation the
next day on sports radio.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah it still is. I mean, imagine being Kenny Pickett. Marvin, Now,
sure I don't play quarterback, You're right, yeah, But there
was a little boy. We were in Arizona at the
Super Bowl and we did a meet and greed after
the show. This little guy comes up and he puts
his hand up and Marvin thinks he's giving him a
high five. He goes, no, no, no, I want to

(03:40):
see how my hand compares to yours. I'm like, oh, man,
but you're a good sport. I think I think that's
when the audience realized that, you know, you were one
of us, you were going to be a dan at,
you were going to fit in nicely.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yes, mart I think that was the beauty about being
a backroom guy. Before here you knew what the show
was about. Off it is for you, the better it
is for everybody Else's contest Dylan pull question. For the
final hour of the program, we.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Got another banger from Todd per usual, begging for autographs
that training camp, stadium or arena is dot dot dot
so much fun and part of the fan experience. Kind
of lame unless you're a kid, I guess pathetic, especially
when you say it's for your child or cool if
you can get some good dough for it on eBay,
But where's your certificate of authenticity?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Decisions decisions? I think if you're a grown up, it's
kind of weird. Or if you say you're getting it
for your son or daughter and I've seen it before,
and you know, the marketplace for memorabilia is going crazy,
and these athletes know, hey, I'm going to sign that.

(04:50):
It increases the value right away. I mean people send
me stuff for me to sign. No, granted, I don't
know if it's worth anything because I've signed it, but
you do sign it in you hope it comes from
a good place that they do want something that they
want to keep. Odds are they probably don't? Yes? Yes? Doing?

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Do you like the guy who's like waiting outside of
a celebrities hotel or something and they come out He's like,
can you sign this for my kidney as a stack
of like fifty head shots?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah? Yeah, and you'll and they know where everybody is.
That that's the amazing part of it. This is big business.
They know what a hotel you're going to be in. Uh,
you know the players where they're going to be, and
you know they're able to take advantage of that. Yeah, Paul,
I'm with Todd on this one.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I saw some training camp stuff yesterday and there's like
sixty or eighty fans there and there's an eleven year
old going shoulders shoulder at a big sweaty fifty year old.
There should be a pen that's you know, twelve and
under that they sign autographs and the adults have to
wait till they're done. I'm being serious. I mean, it's
just it was a battle. You see these little kids
half their size.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
You're going to put them in a in a corral, Yes.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
A corral that yeah, pens, a corral.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Now holding pens. You see what a college football shows
common sense over convenience, and it doesn't happen very often.
Notre Dame and USC the rivalry returns in twenty thirty.
I know that's a long way away, but I like

(06:21):
that we are back to maybe scheduling some quality opponents
outside of our conference schedule. So Notre Dame USC grew
up with the rivalry, love the rivalry. And it's a
subtle but important shift in scheduling philosophy because elite programs
no longer have to fear scheduling another heavyweight. If the

(06:42):
expanded playoffs gives us something, maybe that's what it's going
to be. That you'll schedule the game in the first, second,
or third week and it won't impact whether you make
the playoffs or not. If I go to twenty thirty.
Week one will be a Los Angeles Notre Dame USC,
twenty thirty one Week one in South Bend, and then

(07:05):
twenty thirty two and twenty thirty three. They don't have
dates yet, but they will take place within the first
three weeks of the regular season. I like it when
Texas plays Ohio State. I like it now. Was it
LSU and Oregon years ago? In Jerry's world, It's just
it's great to start off the college football season. But

(07:27):
it impacted you greatly if you lost that game. It
felt like now, if you won that game, well you
got a head start on everybody else. A couple of
phone calls in here. Let's see Nate in La Hi, Nate,
what do you have for me today? Morning?

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Dan?

Speaker 7 (07:44):
So, while you're in Maine, can we move your monitor
in studio from underneath the cameras whenever it cuts the
todd he's looking directly into the camera, which I tolerated
until this morning, when he kept saying I like to
watch other I'm sitting on the edge of my bed.

Speaker 8 (08:00):
We both legs about pants.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Thanks, Thank you, Nate.

Speaker 9 (08:05):
I could see where that would be awkward for him.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yes, it is Michael and Sarasota. Hi, Michael, Hey Dan,
how you doing.

Speaker 10 (08:15):
I just want to say congrats to the dan Ads
for holding it down. But just a couple of quick
questions here. One is kind of a funny one, but
my Cowboys, who do you think would have a bigger
cultural impact winning if they won the Super Bowl this year?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Them or the New York Knicks.

Speaker 10 (08:31):
And my second question is for the salary cap for MLB.
If they were to implement this salary cap, what happens
to the teams that.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Are let's say over the salary cap already? Well, you
know you pay a price of luxury tax with that.
But I don't think there is a right or wrong
answer here, Michael. I think it's one of those how's
this going to feel? How are teams going to adapt?
Dodger's still going to spend. But I applaud them for

(09:00):
reinvesting in their team because a lot of owners don't
do that. You know, I mentioned yesterday seventy percent of
the owners they'll reinvest fifty percent. Okay, that's that's not
good enough. If you're trying to win, and maybe you're

(09:21):
not trying to win, maybe you want to be competitive.
Maybe that's what I'm missing, you know, keep this in
mind with the Notre Dame in USC. Lincoln Riley I
think was the one when he got to USC he
didn't want to continue this. But it feels like this
is the athletic department saying, no, we want to continue this.

(09:42):
But and I don't know, is Lincoln Riley going to
be at USC in twenty thirty when this rivalry resumes.
But I think going into the Big Ten, we don't
want to add, you know, or have Notre Dame their
quality opponent. You know, we're going to be fighting for
survival in the Big Ten. But it feels like this
might be the athletic department saying this sounds like a

(10:04):
good thing to revisit.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yes, paulin Lincoln Riley did respond to one of the
local reporters, the UC head coach about it. He said,
we're looking forward to playing this game early in the season,
even though it's way down the road. He said, quote,
we're part of a conference. We have a conference schedule
to answer to. We don't make our own schedule.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Unquote, ooh, a little shot there, A little shot. Ben
in des Moone, Hi, Ben.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Thanks for taking my call six three just to put
a bow on the school trade of the Dodgers. How
much of that you mentioned, you know, the Dodgers the
exactly give.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
Up a Hall.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
How much of that is just due to the fact
that the Tigers maybe felt some loyalty or wanted to
let him go to his preferred destination. And then also,
you know, in recent memory, I can't think of any
blockbuster trades or a small market team made a deal
that really them over the top to get to the
World Series. You know, Ben over forty years for the Brewers. Now,

(11:07):
as a Burs fan, I'm good. Let's just roll with
the guys we got and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Thanks well, the Tigers traded Verlander to the Astros. He
won two World Series titles. The Indians traded C. C.
Sabathia to the Brewers. He went eleven and two. Now
they didn't have postseason success that year. The Royals traded
Jorge Solar to the Braves. He was the World Series
MVP for the Braves. The Yankees traded Eroldis Chapman to

(11:36):
the Cubs. The Cubs won the World Series. There are
teams that will get players and it might be the
one player that they need. So We're talking about the
Astros getting Verlander, the Brewers getting c C. Sabathia, the
Braves getting Solar, and the Cubs getting roled as Chapman.
Not exactly small market teams, but still these guys are available.

(12:00):
The question is, and I don't know if Justin Berlander
said I don't want this is where I want to go.
And my loyalty to Trek scoobl is, thank you, thank you,
and for the cy youngs and the great performance. But
we're running a franchise here. You're running a business. We're
running a business. We got to do what's best for

(12:22):
our team. You can't go you know what. We gave
him up and we didn't get the best that we
could because we wanted to send him to where he
wanted to go. Yes, Marvin, best.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Case scenario for MLB the Brewers and the Dodgers in
the NLCS where you have a star player in Masarowski.
This is how you pronounce his name, Miserowski, a guy
that's throwing one hundred against the Dodgers with Schooble. Is
that the best case scenario for MLB? Will it bring
more eyeballs? I know we say this.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Every year, but yeah, I think you're going to have
people will be fascinated with the Dodgers, but most of
America would root for the Brewers because you would say,
you know, I can identify with that team. They don't
have the budget the Dodgers do, and it's the big
guy like the Yankees and Dodgers. People are probably torn.
Who do I have roots for?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, PAULI, I went back and tried to find the
air quote, small market team that acquired someone at the
trade deadline. In six the Detroit Tigers at ninety five
wins and lost the World Series. The following year, in
the offseason, they traded for Miguel Cabrera, the great hitter
from the Florida Marlins. They acquired Cabrera to try to
make that run.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I have plowed teams that are taking a chance. If
you had that chance, you just don't want to look
back and go, man, we might have had the best team,
or if we had somebody your window of opportunity it
is so small in all of these sports unless you
have that money to make a mistake. You know, Dodgers,

(13:53):
they had Jordan Alvarez in their system and let him go.
He's gonna win the triple crown this year. So you
do make mistakes. The question is how many mistakes do
you made and how costly are they? Matthew and Texas. Hey,
matt what's on your mind?

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (14:11):
Yours truly? Hey, I just gave my Father of the
Bride speech in Spain last week and it went over
very well. Had two quick tips for you. First of all,
you want to get the crowd involved. First of all,
I did a football chance since they won the World Cup,
got everybody on my side. The second point I would
make is, I know you said you want to keep

(14:33):
it light hearted but also heartfelt. So in order to
do that, you also want to keep some eye contact
with your daughter, look at her when you're light hearted
as opposed to heartfelt, because you want to keep it together,
keep everything moving, and you don't want to lose it.
And obviously it's easy to do in that moment.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, thank you, Matthew. I am taking advice from a
couple of the listeners. They said, go to the where
the reception is going to be, find out where the
microphone's going to be, and then go over there and
stand and just so you get acclimated and that therefore
it won't be new when I walk up there. But

(15:13):
thank you, Matthew. I've received a lot of really good advice,
and I appreciate that I am writing down the speech
because then I don't have to make eye contact the
entire time. I'm going to be looking down. Now I'll
look up, you know, for laughter. I'll be very careful though,
with a couple of things I have to say that

(15:33):
I'm not going to be able to look over to
my daughter won't be able to do it. But I'm
bringing my son up there. He'll if I falter, then
he'll fill in the gray area and hopefully he'll say
something nice about his sister.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yes, yes, Dylan, Do you have markings on the speech
like pause for laughter and a.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Pause you know? No, I don't think there'll be notes
there in the margins. It'll be just there. Will not
be a happier person in America than me when that
speech is over, because then I'm gonna get my drink on.
Now I do have the father daughter dance. Who cares

(16:13):
if I screw that up? Bean, Paul, You're gonna be
walking away from that speech. It's gonna be like a
runner at the New York Marathon. People are gonna handing
you beers. Yes, I'm gonna be walking out like Joe
Namath when he won the Super Bowl. I have my
finger in the air like we did it. All right,
we'll talk some football. Mike Sandos Quarterback Tier results for

(16:34):
twenty twenty six. They're here and we'll come back and
talk to him after this.

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Speaker 2 (17:19):
Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic. He's a
Hall of Fame voter, and his twenty twenty six Quarterback
Tiers column drops today. Todd thought it was tea rs
like tears, I said, I said, no, it's levels.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
I have tears about bow Nick's not big and level.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh I know, PAULI was telling Fritzy Bownicks is like
a Tier three quarterback, and Fritzi's going apoplectic on everybody here.
So Mike's been doing this his thirteenth annual survey, ranking
all the quarterbacks into five tiers from best to worst,
and also did this with a help of votes from
fifty NFL coaches and execus ives. Thirty five veteran quarterbacks

(18:02):
are ranked sorted into five tiers from best to worst.
We will welcome back Mike. Mike, thanks for joining us.
Give me the criteria for Tier one.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
I'm glad that you're asking about criteria.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
We need.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
We need a criteria for the Hall of Fame. I
think criteria is the key to all of these lists.
Do you have one? And for top tier it's really
you know, do you carry the team each week? Do
you handle those pure pass situations, meaning we got to
throw the ball. They know we got to throw the ball.
They're more nervous on defense than we are on offense.
And you kind of know that if you're a fan
of a team when you have to throw it, everything

(18:36):
gets stripped away and you don't really have a major
hole in your game. That's Tier one, Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
So Patrick Mahomes is the the number one quarterback, even
coming off an injury. And I always look at these
lists and go, Okay, there's a regular season quarterback and
then there's a postseason quarterback. Josh Allen. Regular season quarterbacks
been unbelievable, Lamar Jackson, regular season quarterback. When we get

(19:04):
into the postseason, then it's different. And I don't know
if these rankings would be different if I said, give
me the postseason quarterback as opposed to the regular season quarterback.

Speaker 9 (19:15):
I really agree with that, and even Josh Allen was
in Tier one. But I felt like when we get
to these playoff games, there's a sloppiness around Lamar Jackson
or Josh Allen. The balls on the ground, sometimes there's
wasted opportunities. You don't feel like they fully understand how
precious each possession is, right whereas with somebody like Mahomes,

(19:39):
they're on top of all of that and they tend
to not make those kind of sloppy mistakes, and it
just feels like a more of a well oiled machine,
and that really does serve you well when the margins
are smallest in those playoff games.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
You only have three quarterbacks in Tier one. Jill Burrow,
Oh yeah, you have Stafford. Okay, Joe Burrow feels like
he's gotten a little bit of a hall pass injuries.
He did go to the Super Bowl, but this is
one of those win healthy kind of rankings.

Speaker 9 (20:13):
Yeah. I would say the last two years his numbers
are almost identical to Lamar Jackson's and he's played five
fewer games. I do think that there is a premium
put on the peer passing, the ability to throw the
ball from the pocket. That's the most consistent sustainer of success,
not only in a course of a season, but a
course of a career. You don't see a lot of
dual threaders at age thirty seven, dual threading anybody, right,

(20:34):
So I think that really helps Joe Burrow. And look,
he was spectacular a couple of years ago. People understand
his defense was absolutely horrible. I think, you know, when
I go on and have a conversation in Seattle, why
isn't Sam and Arnold higher well number one defense and
special teams in the league. People know how they win
the games, right, Sam can do it sometimes, he doesn't
do it all the time, and so I think those

(20:55):
Tier one guys like Burrow, you feel like he can
do it all the time. It's not like he's missed
full season in the last couple of years. So I
think that's why he gets a little bit of a break.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
But you got Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald slotted together.
It feels like Baker Mayfield does more to help his
team win than Sam Donald.

Speaker 9 (21:15):
I think that's defensible. Yeah, I think that's true. I
think Donald probably, you know, winning the Super Bowl, there's
probably some kind of a premium on that. One of
the great conversations I had with somebody was like, you
know what were Eli Manning or Joe Flack who over
the course of their careers those Super Bowls were everything?
And obviously they made some big plays in those Super
Bowls too to win. But I think that helps. That

(21:37):
helps Donald low too. I feel like people feel like
with Baker Mayfield that he is probably slipped a little
bit last year, that it fell off around him and
he had a much harder time, and so I think
that's probably why he kind of slipped a little bit
there and we'll see what happens this year. Doesn't really
feel like Tampa's on fire either. That situation feels valatile
to me.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
The Jalen Hurts ranking is always fascinating because if I said, hey,
you got to pick your quarterback for the postseason, Jalen
Hurts is going to be in my top five because
I've seen there, there's enough of the sample size there.
But why is he seventeenth on this list? In your opinion?

Speaker 9 (22:16):
I think that it is hard to you know, it's
hard to parse out credit in football, harder than the
other ones when you have great teams around him or not.
And I think he's really done it when he's had
the best offensive line in the league, they've had a
great running game that he's a big part of, and increasingly,
you know, at least lately, they've had a really good defense.
So like, would the Eagles trade how many put it

(22:38):
this way, how many players ranked higher on this list
would the Eagles trade Hurts for? I think it'd be
a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Who would you trade? Okay, so Mahomes, Allen, Stafford, Borough, Lamar.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
Yep, Herbert, Oh yeah, every day of the week. Dak
probably may for sure. Yes, sure, I think so.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Jordan Love Yes, uh, Rock Party.

Speaker 9 (23:13):
Caleb Williams, I mean, Caleb, I think people would take
for the long runway in the future. You know, pretty
that depends. I mean some people think he's product of
system to a degree too. But we're getting you know,
after that, Jayden Daniels, Darnold. I think, Lawrence, this is
what I think about Jalen Hurts. Do you think how

(23:33):
excited do you think they are right now to sign him,
to give him a raise and a big extension.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Probably not thrilled.

Speaker 9 (23:43):
And do you think he's They just picked up a
twenty twenty eight first round pick in that aj Brown trade.
When they did that, my mind kind of went to
I wonder how much longer Jalen Hurts is their quarterback
as opposed? And if Jalen Hurts were available, like would
people will be clamoring to get him. I mean, he

(24:03):
would make money and get a job, don't get me wrong,
but I don't think I'd be the same as if
those guys above them were.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Okay, so let's say Baker Mayfield's available in Jalen Hurts
same price.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
I mean I would probably take Baker Mayfield would you No.
I feel like Jalen Hurts really needs to run. It
needs his legs to be part of this, and I
don't trust that the older he gets, I guess this
is where I'm coming from.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, And I think it's fair. And you talk about
the offensive line. I get all that he has weapons,
he got a great running back. I understand all that.
But I have seen him on the biggest stage in
two Super Bowls be the best guy on the field. Yeah.
So I just I keep coming back to that, whether
that's fair or not. Bo Nicks did a great job

(24:52):
with the Broncos. You got him leading a Tier three Yeah.

Speaker 9 (24:57):
I think he had four Tier two votes last year,
seven twenty one this year. So that's a big jump.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
C J.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Stroud's the one that's kind of fascinating you just lingering
there at number twenty.

Speaker 9 (25:11):
He is, and I think that it's a huge year
for him. They finally got him some offensive lineman. I think,
you know, I think that's he is one of those quarterbacks.
I think Herbert's in this category two where you know
they've taken some hits and you get a feeling sometimes
watching them that it's affecting them even maybe when the
rush isn't there and you can kind of get a
syndrome as a quarterback where it's hard to pull out

(25:33):
of that. And I think this is a really big
year for both of those quarterbacks to kind of feel
comfortable again, feel good again. And Shrouds clearly has it
in him. But they have not had an offensive line,
And it doesn't mean it's all the line's fault, but
I think we've seen without one, he has a hard
time kind of beating the pressure, beating the defense with

(25:55):
his anticipation in the quick, confident throws that we've seen
some of the or other quarterbacks be able to make.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I'm federally mandated to ask you about Shador Sanders. You
have him as the thirty fifth ranked quarterback.

Speaker 9 (26:11):
Out of thirty five.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, so is this just kind of an incomplete that
we're not We're still not sure what we have here.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
It's worse than that, because thirty seven of the voters
put him in tier four. To be in tier four,
you're either you know, somebody you wouldn't want to go
to the whole season with. It could be like a
Jacoby Brissette. Right, we sort of know what he is
and we don't. We want to get a different guy,
or tier four can be the guy's barely started any games,
you know, let's put him in tier four. So you
could give Shoudre some of that. But he got twelve

(26:43):
in tier five. I got the most of anyone in here.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
JD.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
McCarthy got ten. So that's five is like not a
starter period, And so people really, you know, question his
you know, some of the sathysical ability, you know, and
then just his his accurate See, people didn't feel like
was very good at all last year, so you know it.
In my mind, I also wonder like, okay, do people

(27:09):
not like him too? You know, just his his attitude,
his approach, his pedigree, lack of a better word, just
coming up the way he did. I don't think that
probably helps him.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
No, And then your dad shows up in training camp
and you know, ESPN just spends hours and hours on
Shoodoor Sanders and I understand the name, I understand the clicks,
but if you look at production versus clicks, he would
be a Tier one quarterback totally.

Speaker 9 (27:42):
He's a Tier one clicker, you know, so I think
he has some value that way, but people didn't see
a whole lot to build on last year.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Every year from a quarterback after they've dropped on your.

Speaker 9 (27:53):
List, that's interesting. I say. The highlight was this a
number of years ago, when Philip Rivers was giving a
one of those off the field pressers. You know, all
the media is standing around him and I wasn't there,
and yeah, I knew him a little bit, but he said, yee,
I gotta watch out. I'll be following you know, watch out,

(28:14):
I'll be following in Sando's tears or something. And I thought, hey,
that kind of made my day. You know, my kids
were impressionable at age at that time, and so that
was probably the best, the best reference that I got
that I found out about.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, I don't know what Aaron Rodgers is going to
think about being there in Tier three, Mike.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
I would love to I'd love to hear it from
and I kind of agree. I mean, one of the
quotes I used in there from someone in the league
was like, you're not taking him over some of these
other guys. I mean, just for his ability to throw
and run the offense that said doesn't look the way
that it used to look like. Here.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Thanks for providing programming for a lot of shows across
America this week. Mike, we appreciate that.

Speaker 9 (28:53):
I appreciate you having me on. And congrats too. I
know you're you're in the victory lap here. Congrats on everything.
It's it's an honor to be here.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
And don't you're going to try to embarrass me and
maybe nominate me, you know, for somebody contributor to the
Pro Football Hall of Fame. I mean, if you want to,
you can. But if it makes you happy, Yeah, if
it makes you happy, then fine.

Speaker 9 (29:18):
Well, you know, the Belichick omission went over so well.
I think, you know, I think probably putting you in
over him would be a good first start, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Okay, how did that happen?

Speaker 9 (29:29):
So that story. I've been on the committee for fifteen
years and there's been a number of times where I like,
I get frustrated because you can't make people think the
way you think, right, And I'm like, oh, what we
found out on this is they changed the voting so
that you had three senior candidates, guys are retired twenty
five years from playing, You had a coach, and you

(29:52):
had a contributor. Contributors like an owner. There's people on
that committee that it's like they're religious. And to get
the seniors in okay, and so these people, you had
to pick three of those five on the final ballot,
they picked they just spanned the seniors, picked all seniors,
leaving off Belichick because they feel like if these seniors

(30:12):
don't make it, they'll never make it. And I just
that just really irritated me. That's like taking the process
into your own hands, making it about yourself. You have
to step back and evaluate these five. We can worry
about the process later. You don't like it, then work
to change it. But you have to put the best
people in, and Belichick is So I was very embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Belichick stinted North Carolina, hurt his chances at all first
ballot or.

Speaker 9 (30:40):
Pro Football Hall of Fame, pro you know. I mean, look,
it doesn't help anybody when they go somewhere else and fail.
But come on, I mean the body of work as
a head coach and before that as an assistant coach.
I mean, he's the standard in a lot of ways.
And so I don't know when you look at some
of the coaches they've put in. I wasn't always on

(31:01):
the coach committee in these years. I'm gonna, But I
was like, how can you put some of those guys
in and not have Belichick skate in.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I have no idea Mike Tomlin did enough to be
a Hall of Fame coach.

Speaker 9 (31:13):
That'll be interesting. Yeah, I think he'll. I think he'll
be in the room and he'll be the coaching finalist
at some point, and then it depends really what the
format is, who he has to compete against on the
final ballot. Will he be over able to overcome players?
I don't think so, and we've seen that. That's one
of the reasons they created a lane, a coach's lane.

(31:34):
But it feels to me like some of this structure
and processes in flux. Maybe they're waiting till after the
ceremony to not distract from it, you know, with Larry
Fitzgerald and Drew Brees and those guys going in Luke Keigley.
But I feel like there's they're going to evolve, maybe
the committee or the panels, some different people something after
what happened last year, and then that'll determine whether a Tomlin,

(31:56):
you know, has a chance. I would say right now
it would be very difficult for him.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Very different great stuff as always, Mike, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 9 (32:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
That's Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for The Athletic and
his quarterback tears his thirteenth annual survey ranking all the
quarterbacks there. How about we take a break, last call
for phone calls? Well, we learn what's in store tomorrow
right after this.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live. Last call for phone calls? What we learn,
what's in store tomorrow? This day in sports history, all
of that coming up. Eric and Virginia. Hi, Eric, what
do you have for me today?

Speaker 12 (32:43):
Hey Dan, I'm just wondering who's gonna have to go
to HR tomorrow for the little nassoo this morning with
your live feed from Maine.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm going to blame the Internet. I'll blame Elon Musk.
I'll just blame him. You know, can't go wrong there.
But thank you Eric. Now, just a technical difficulty and
the big German ended up fixing it. Took a little time.
Paulie took over hosting the show. I'm gonna have to

(33:19):
give him his own show here one of these duds.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Based on that alone.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yes, everyone jumped in. We had fun Asa in Texas.
Hi Asa, Hey Dan.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
If if you have the technical difficulties you had today
on your last show, are you postponing retirement? Are you
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Well maybe you got me with a no pun intended
to technicality there, but no. I one way or another.
We'll do the show even if nobody's able to hear
us if there's technical difficulties, but we'll be at the
super Bowl in Atlanta. What could go wrong? Chris and Pittsburgh.
Hi Chris, what do you have?

Speaker 13 (34:04):
Hey DT, Thanks for taking my call. I don't think
the big german gets enough credit first and foremost.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
But the reason for.

Speaker 13 (34:11):
My call is I was looking back just talking about
the small market teams, tak taking a chance, spending money.
Lifelong Indians fan twenty sixteen collictaing attest to this, Andrew Miller.
We get from the Yankees virtually unhittable the entire playoffs
from so Game seven when he just.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Ran out of gas.

Speaker 13 (34:30):
They went and spent revenue money from the playoffs the
next offseason for Edwin incarnosion a big bat. Somebody to
Cleveland never never gets unless they draft him and bring
him up. I just think the Guardians are a They
are a poster child for how to run an organization
in a small to mid market. I think going back
to John Hart's days back in the you know one

(34:51):
cake of Sfield open in the mid nineties, all the
way through today and even making a splash yesterday going
into this postseason.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, they're always there and there's something to be said
for that. And that starts to me with up top
well run organization. Mark and Richmond. Hi, Mark, what do
you have for me today?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Dan?

Speaker 9 (35:11):
Who are you at?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Five?

Speaker 14 (35:12):
Good dad bought?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (35:17):
Just a quick question.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
I don't know if it's ever been asked on the air,
at least I haven't heard it. Are we the listeners
going to be fortunate enough to see your daughter's speech?

Speaker 8 (35:25):
Perhaps posted on the website or something after the web?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I don't know. It depends on how well I do. Okay,
but maybe maybe I have I have veto power and
I need to run it by the home office. And
uh and my daughter probably not. You know, it's it's

(35:51):
it's too special of a moment. See that's where my
wife would be going don't you know, make it funny
and be giggly and do don't do that. You know
this is your daughter. So I'm like, okay, all right,
all right, all right, but I gotta have a little levity.
I can't. I can't treat it like it's a funeral.
I mean, she's still going to be my daughter, but

(36:11):
today she's a bride. How about that line? Okay? Are
you kidding me? Right at the very end, I told you,
I just cried she will always be my daughter, but
today she's a bride. That's the kapper mauzle.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Tom that do you believe in miracles of a wedding?

Speaker 10 (36:36):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yes? Dylan?

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Are you gonna do the like his family gained a daughter,
We gained a son? That that old thing?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
No, okay, no, well no, it's not a wow. It's
just people have said that before. I'm trying to make
it unique all new. Yeah, I'm not knowing At GPT,
you'd say, hey, can you write my speech here?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yes, Todd, are you planning anything comedic or you're gonna
try to keep it all sensitive?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
And telling you you can't keep a secret.

Speaker 9 (37:12):
Not go, I gotta keep a secret.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
I wouldn't able to give you any information that could
help you with any of those jokes.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
How about you open up for me.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Like do a Limerick. Guys, I can bomb with a
couple of jokes. Anything you say, it's gonna be hilarious.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I know, you know, you could be the warm up.
You can be the warm up. You could do rhyme time.
You could do like five rhyme times and then now
I go, how about a round of applause for Fritzy
and it will sound just like that by the.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
Time I get to the third rhyme time.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
We walk in weal, Yes.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Are you going to shout out your new son in
law like you know when we first met Parker he
was great off of the bat in blank blank blank.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Any good words about him? Yes, okay, yes, yes, his
name's Josh.

Speaker 9 (37:57):
Oh that's what I say, Yeah, Parker.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, I'm gonna say. See now I'm going to say, hey,
I want to give a shout out to Parker. You
know you're I mean, Josh. People are gonna go, wait
a minute, who's your daughter Mary? I'm sorry, Josh. Yes,
Dyling is Parker's middle name?

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Binding Chance No, excellent, Yeah, so you're not you're not
giving any consideration to having Todd punch up your speech
with jokes a little bit.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Oh no, I would That's the worst idea I've ever heard. Yeah, Todd,
Todd can punch up my script here. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (38:32):
Why would you reach out to standloa Bargatzio?

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Will Ferrell when you got meet it?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
H Ryan in Arizona? Hi Ryan, what do you have
for me?

Speaker 6 (38:41):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (38:42):
Anne full discloser. I am in Arizona, So I hate
the Doughters, but I listen to all these daughter fans
tell you that the Dodters are smarter than everybody else
in any break, ask goople. That's simply not true. It's
such a huge risk for the brewers of the race
to get away their firm system for a guy that's
going to sign with the Dodgers into month anyway, the
Dodgers don't care about prospects because they they're just going

(39:05):
to buy a new outfield in a few years. And
I mean that money doesn't buy wins because if you
look at eight rows and standings, nine of the top
twelve teams is spending over five hundred. If youok at
the bottom eighteen, pay roll is only for them over
five hundred. So you can definitely buy wins.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Okay, but that's a regular season team. Ryan, I'm talking about,
do you have a chance to win the World Series?
And can I keep scoobl away from the Dodgers? At
what point do you say we're going for it? And
that's the only thing that I'm bringing up. Look, I
get it, I understand the smaller market, but do you
when do you get to the point where you go,

(39:42):
let's go all in, let's go try to win this.
If I'm Tampa, definitely, the Yankees definitely, because the American
League is not good and now you have a chance.
Though to me it could be a missed opportunity. Paulie,
this day in sports, this.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Is a great one. August not for the bird. August fourth,
nineteen eighty three, Dave Winfield of the Yankees accidentally kills
a seagull on the field in Toronto. It was between
innings as they're warming up after the game. They were
kind of joking around about it, and all of a sudden,
the local policeman that was at the game walked in
and arrested Dave Winfield. They brought him to the Toronto
Police fourteen Division and he was charged with unnecessary suffering

(40:23):
of an animal a five hund dollars fine. The next
day it was dropped.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, they thought that he tried to kill the bird.
They think Coplin. On this date in nineteen eighty two,
Joel young Blood had a base hit pulled from the game.
The Mets were trading him to the Expos, who were
playing a night game in Philadelphia. So he went from
a RBI single in one game with one team to

(40:48):
a pinch hit hit in a single off Steve Carlton
in the nightcap two different teams. Todd, what did you learn?
On the program?

Speaker 9 (40:57):
Albert Bria thinks the Saints, especially after finishing strong last year,
could be a surprise team this season.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
What did I learn? We're excited that the Notre Dame
UC rivalry was back, but not until twenty thirty. Have
a great day, everybody, look forward to chatting with you tomorrow.
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