June 5, 2026 • 41 mins
Chris Mannix takes over for DP today and he checks in with NBA insider Sam Amick about tonight’s Game 2 of the NBA Finals in San Antonio and sparks a discussion about the ridiculous ticket prices for the NBA Finals games coming up in Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Our three of the program. Chris Mannix sitting in for
DP on this Friday. Good to be back with you
and the boys. First two hours, flying along, a lot
to get to here. In the third hour, Sam Amek
the Great Rider over with the Athletic He's going to
join us just a few minutes from now and talk
about what's going on down in San Antonio. In Carolina.
Last night we had the Hurricanes evening up their Stanley
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Cup Final series against the Las Vegas Golden Knights. Dan
Patrick's Las Vegas Golden Knights. One of the things I
first noticed is sit down and the at the jersey here.
We got a lot of new things here in the Mancave.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We were out there a few months ago for the
F one race and the gold Knight sent over some swag,
really nice stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, well, good jersey also got a is it a gong?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Here?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
There's a lot of stuff in this mancave I'm just
unfamiliar with, having not been here for six seven years.
The Las Vegas Golden Knights and the Hurricanes even up
at one great game last night. Watched the third period.
Not a lot happening. First ten minutes too nothing, Golden
Knights lead, Then all of a sudden, Hurricanes came to life,
score three goals in the third period, wind up winning
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the game four minutes into overtime. Tremendous fun. It's always
fun to watch Stanley Cup Final hockey just because you
never know what's gonna happen. The The Hurricanes look lifeless
for most of that game, they turn it around, tie
the game up and regulation win it in overtime. Game
two of the NBA Finals is tonight. The New York
Knicks with the one nothing series lead over the San
Antonio Spurs. A must win game for the San Antonio Spurs.
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Gotta win it this time. There have been teams in
NBA history that have come back from down oh two.
We saw the Milwaukee Bucks do it in twenty twenty one,
came back to beat the Phoenix Suns. The Cleveland Cavaliers
they came back to beat the Warriors they were down
two zip. Big win for the Cavs. The common thread
with both those teams, though, is they lost the first
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two games on the road. If the Spurs lose the
first two games at home, it is improbable. If not
impossible to believe that San Antoni can come back and
beat the Knicks with three of those next five games
potentially being played at Massive Square Garden. Big Game for
Jalen Brunson gets thirty points in game one. We've been
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talking a lot about where he's elevated himself onto that
next level. Is he the greatest nick of all time?
If he wins a championship this year, does he go
on the Mount rushmore of players six foot two and under.
We've had some calls some comments about that over the
last couple of hours. Some names that should be on
that list. Isaiah Thomas on that list, we had Tiny
(02:33):
Archibald added to that list. Alan Iverson of course belongs
on that list. Chris Paul. A debate over Chris Paul
being on that list, but Jalen Brunson winning a title
in New York as the number one option on his
team got to give him consideration to be on that list.
Big Game for Victor Weiman Yaum and the Spurs as well.
Wemby good stat line in game one, twenty six points,
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twelve rebounds, but he was six of twenty one from
the floor and he was just a perimeter guy. You know,
I love a seven ft four guy that can shoot threes,
but you need a guy getting the paint. Two of
nine of three point reigns, it's not going to get
it done in Game two, must win game for the
San Antonio Spurs, playing on their home floor. Eight seven
to seven three DP shows the phone number email address
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DP at Danpatrick dot com. Sam Amick, senior writer over
at the Athletic. He is down in San Antonio, Sam.
Let me ask you this, Jalen Brunson leads the Knicks
to the championship. Is Jalen Brunson the greatest Nick of
all time?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Mister Mannix, good to see you. Is he the greatest
Nick of all time? It's maybe?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You know? I mean? That was quick side story from
the playoff Road. Here.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I was at an establishment last night with the lovely
daughter of one Patrick Ewing, so Randy Ewing, so she
might have something to say about this debate.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
You know, there's a long list of great Knicks.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I don't care to be honest with you where Jalen
falls in that debate. I'd like the other debate better,
Like this six to an under thing is is wild?
Chris Paul deserves to be on that list. But but
Jalen is doing the type of stuff that sparks these debates,
doing the type of stuff that you know, not to
have somebody catch as straight. But I keep laughing about
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the Becky Hammond, like the whole.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Commentary where Becky you know, said so long ago.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
That Jalen could not be the number one guy on
a championship team, and she stood on that recently, which
was kind of, you know, strange.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
He's just been incredible. Man.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
He's fun to watch and you know, you know, on
West Coast base, so I don't see the Knicks as much,
and buddy, to watch Jalen do what he did in
the fourth quarter, it was fun. It was neat to
see because it was like, oh, this dude is as
advertised when it matters most.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What's been the vibe around the Spurs the last couple
of days.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Fine, they're pretty for a young group, they're they're pretty
even keeled. They you know, they're mature, you know, Wenby,
I'm always really interest did how he's going to handle
his voice and his messaging. I did think it was
interesting after Game one that you know, and you know
this like he kind of wasted no time sliding in
quite a few comments about your confidence, and you know,
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I'm not worried in the slightest, you know, just trajecting
the kind of way you would expect for a confident guy. Uh,
they seem fine. I mean you just hit the nail
on the head when you talked about game two. Is
the like, let's do a false check if they lose
game two. You know they're gonna be fine if they
split this thing at home, and not to put you,
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you know, give you a homework assignment. I did wonder
because you detailed the teams that went down oh too
when they were you know, on the road. Have we
had a champion who lost the first two at home,
so we know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I forget what the six heat did? I know they
were another team that was down oh two when they
came back to beat Dallas. But that's the only one
that there haven't been that netty that have come back
from oh to It's only been a handful.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, Because when you said this was must win, I
was gonna give you a hard time and say it
was hyperbole, and then as you laid it out.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
It was like, it's pretty important. So what happens, Sam,
I'm facts.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He always fact. I don't think it's ever didn't have
with Miami. I think they were they lost the first
two on the road. Uh, and those are the teams
I mentioned lost on the road as well. So adjustment
for San Antonio. What do you think is the biggest
adjustment they're gonna make going into game two.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Well, it's the same thing they've battled throughout the playoffs,
which is that as great as Wemby is, as part
of this is youth and and it's him trying to
figure out the chess match.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
He's inconsistent.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
He has a roller coaster, uh you know, kind of
element to his game. So they've got to you already
said this, They've got to get him inside more. Yes,
it's it was super fun when he hit that thirty
five footer in the last round in Game one. Okay, fine,
but uh getting pushed out by kat getting pushed out by.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Ogn No and Mitchell Robinson.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
The problem is, I just don't know how you know
doable that is because this is literally the roster construction
that you should want to have to go at Wemby
and going into the series. I wrote a whole piece
where I talked to some front office folks about the
domino effect of what Victor was doing. And the reality is,
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the irony is is that like most of the people
I talked to pointed to the Knicks roster construction as
what you should want. A guy like Kat who's seven feet,
two hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
You know, Mitch big boy, a lot of halft.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
You know, he can bully Webby and he's athletic enough
to keep up with him same you know, og and
what he brings.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
So getting Victor going first and foremost.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Secondly, you know the others in the West Finals for
the Spurs, you know, Dierre Fox, Julian Champenny, Dylan Harper,
all the way down line.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Kell the Johnson had a fantastic finish to that series.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
You know, those guys have got to show up because
you know, yes, Vick was sixty twenty one and struggled
a bit, but but the other guys weren't.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Weren't helping to either.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
What Kevin Johnson gain like eight minutes in this that
game one that was surprising. Yeah, A thought sixth Man
of the Year. I thought he'd be a natural guy
to put on Towns for stretches. Uh, that surprised me
our little minutes He's got we You know, I thought
that the fatigue sam was a little bit overblown coming
into the series, because I thought three days was a
long time, and I thought think about being at home
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was going to be enough for San Antonio to recharge
the batteries and not make fatigue as big an issue
as somewhere. But I'm watching that game one. I'm sitting
there and I'm looking at Victor Webbin Yama kind of
grabbing his knees in the first quarter. I'm looking at
some of these other guys just not look like they've
had the same energy that they did early in that
series in Oklahoma City. How big a fact do you
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think fatigue's going to be in this game too, and
potentially the rest of the series.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
It's significant, But I'm confused, you know again, like I
was not around Victor that much also long, So now
you know this is we've done this a long time.
You get in the gym with these guys and you
try to study them and learn how they're wired, how
they operate. Victor and the way that he crashes out
from a fatigue standpoint is puzzling, because yes, I understand
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he's seven foot four, but he's not lugging around three
hundred pounds, you know. But he absolutely does have these
moments and you just hit on it, like early in
the game when he's clutching at the knees or or
you know, looking for a blow that doesn't make sense.
And that's where as transcendent great, you know, and talented
as he is, the inconsistency part has got to be
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tricky for ms Johnson, you know, from a rotation standpoint,
because you know, is that tied to not having as
much of a break as the Knicks coming out of
the West Finals, Like that's a little hard to believe,
Like you said, three days, so they.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Got to fight through that.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
You didn't see any of that from the Knicks, and
I don't really think as necessarily because of you know,
that long stretch that they had to rest. But Wenby's
great again. I keep kind of hitting the same point.
He's great, but he comes and goes a bit.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
How short a leash do you think the Aaron Fox
will be on tonight?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Very curious to see it because there are bigger picture
implications of that kind of a choice.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
I've been asked this a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
And my thing is the Spurs from a culture standpoint,
are obviously incredibly savvy, and they know that the moment
you open the door to the Dylan Harper era and
you put the Aaron, you know, on the bench, you know,
you know, because of the stakes of what's going on
right now, like he's going to be a domino effect.
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And that's very tricky for them from a planning standpoint,
because yes, they have this historical backdrop where Montageenobli famously
agrees to go to the bench with Greg Popovich's you know,
kind of nudging, and the rest is history.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
He's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Montagenobili was not making sixty million dollars a year, which
is what the Aaron is on track to make, and
so the solution is not quite as even fd Aaron
at some point was willing to yield to the young
fella in terms of a contract, roster construction.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
That's an issue.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So but you got a championship on the line, so
you know, would I be shocked to see it, you know,
I'd be surprised. I don't know how short the leash is.
Dylan didn't show out though. That's the other thing. He
had a good first half, but four points in the
second half. You know, he faded a bit. But the
more pressure that he applies with his play and then
with the Aaron, you know, if he keeps doing what
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he did in Game one, which was having a hard time,
then you know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Talking to Sam an mix Sen, you're NBA writer over
at the Athletic in San Antonio for Game two of
the NBA Finals tonight. Sam, we are right around three
weeks away from the NBA Draft, which is three weeks
away from the self imposed deadline that the Milwaukee Bucks
have to trade Jannistindecompo. What have you been hearing over
the last couple of days about Giannis and how likely
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do you think it is that Giannis has traded before
the June draft?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Seems very likely, Admittedly, you know that it's not often
you have an owner, you know, publicly framing the timeline,
and that's what Jimmy HASLM.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Did you know we just saw Jimmy has them do
a blockbuster.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Trade with Miles Garrett in the NFL, showing he's certainly
ready to pull that trigger if he needs to. I
do expect it to happen. Miami, as you know, is
the loudest noise. You know, you continue to hear that.
But what I tried to write the other day with
my colleague Eric name, and it was interesting to get into,
is yes, it appears, you know, everybody you talk to
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says Miami at the deadline, had a deal that was closed,
had a deal that they thought was going to happen.
The Bucks ended up backing out, and so the noise
is tied to Miami. But there's also some intel discussion,
you know, kind of understanding that Giannis has questions about
what that Miami roster would look like on the other
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side of a deal. You know, it reminds me of
the Carmelo Anthony dilemma when he went from Denver to
the next Like you don't want to get the roster,
go to the place that you're excited to be to,
you know, be in, and then have a hard time
contending for a championship. And that is where you know,
we'll see what happens in the next few weeks. Because
in one of your backyards, I think the Celtics are
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are pretty intriguing options where you know, in terms of
being competitive, you know, if you do something with Boston.
And this is what we had heard from Ghanis's side,
that the intrigue is real, you know, the respect for
Joe Mizula, the way that he might see that roster.
So do I think it changes things? I don't know yet,
but you know, I do think that's worth watching.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I could see why Giannis would want to play in Boston.
I still struggle to see why Boston would give up
the kind of assets it would need to give up
to go and get yn. It's not that they aren't
considering it, but if I'm running the Celtics, I'm not
trading Jalen Brown and a couple of draft picks for Yostivakopo.
Not in a real action to a bad first round
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loss to the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Mostly because I
don't trust Giannis's health. Sam. I don't trust that he's
had multiple years of soft tissue injuries and you're going
to have to give this guy a multi year contract
at the full max. Now you're talking about having two
full max guys on your roster in Jason Tatum and Jostindecompoll,
both of whom have dealt with significant injuries over the
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last couple of years. I know Jalen Brown is not
a perfect fit. I know the Celtics want to get
more pressure on the rim. Brad Stevens talked about that,
but to me, the risk is just too big to
go all in on a player like Giannis at this stage.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Well, and it's very sensitive too, Like the Jalen Brown
thing that you just hit on. It's like when the noise.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Got loud a couple months ago regarding Dalen and how
he saw him the season and all the chatter about
what he said on the live stream that it was
the most fun he'd ever had and that was confusing
because you know, it just set this message that he
wanted his own team. As you know the Celtics, you know,
they went to great lengths to kind of massage that
situation and get things back in a good place. And
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they're not the only team dealing with this, like Miami
is and this is Giannis related. Miami is is loud
with it right now. They don't care if everybody knows
that they're chasing Giannis because they don't really care what
Tyler Hero feels about getting traded. But like Boston's got
to be sensitive, you know the Knicks are unofficially out
because of what they're doing. But you remember Karl Anthony
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Towns was not real thrilled to have his name attached
to the g honest discussion, you know previously. Like that
is where I think we could see a wild card
team come on strong, you know, and come out of
the shadows, so to speak, because I think there's a
lot of teams that are absolutely looking at this and
interested here, but also have to pay attention to their
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own locker room dynamics.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
If somebody offered you one hundred thousand dollars for your
press pass for Game three in New York, would you
take it?
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I mean, journalistically, absolutely not. I would never consider such
a thing.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I think I think about it if you're a Nicks
fan on the Capital.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Journalist, if there's so, yeah, but the spirit of your question,
like I mean, yeah, Hunter K's I'm good with that.
That's you know, the production value on TV these days
is pretty pretty high. I'll hang out with somebodies and
watch this thing on a big old projector screen and you.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Know, laugh all the way to the bank, and they
transcribe all the quotes for you.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Sam.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's all available fired out. You got kids. I got
a kid now, it's like, you know, you gotta look
out for number one. There, Sam, good Sam.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Let me add on to this man. I'm fired up
to go to New York.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Man, Like I'm a West Coaster, So I don't know
if I would take that money because like I don't
I don't see the garden very often.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I don't see the chaos.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You know, I don't really Sacramento guy in New York.
There we go. This is when we yea Sacramento guy text,
by the way to get your take quickly on Uh yeah,
question that came up, more dysfunctional, more irrelevant. Right now.
The Brooklyn Nets are the Sacramento Kings.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I mean, uh, the Kings have things that they're trying
to work on and to get out of the ditch.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I don't know what Brooklyn's doing, so I actually probably
go at Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
They got young players in Brooklyn, though, Sam, like, at
least you've got like some hope like Sacramento, who wants
to be there right now? Like who wants to be
part of that team at the moment.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
It is Listen, it is painful. I mean, as you know,
you have Mike Brown garon Fox. In the finals. You
have ogananob a guy that I've contested and contend that
they should have traded for to take the Beam team
to the next level. There's all kinds of six degrees
of Sacramento pains in this NBA Finals right now.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, you got to hate that Sacramento watching their former
head coach and their former star compete for a championship.
One of them is going to win it at the
in the next couple of weeks. Great stuff, Sam, Good
to catch up with you and I will see you
in New York City. Try to, you know, keep it
under control there these late nights in New York. They
don't in New York City.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yeah, we know about that. I've met with you out there.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You got it all right, buddy, Good stuff, Sam, Sam
Annex senior writer over at the Athletic joining us here
on the Dan Patrick Show. I say, Sacramento. I understand
what he's saying about Brooklyn, but Brooklyn's got guys that
want to be there. Nobody wants to be in Sacramento.
Like I would put every Nickel I owned the Doug
Christie's not going to be the head coach of the
Sacramento Kings one year from today, not gonna happen. They're
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gonna go in a different direction. Hopefully get a good
young player. See if they can win that way.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, Pauli mad You're King's management thinking. You know it's quiet,
the NBA Finals going on. They're not gonna talk about
us in our futilities.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Just out you're burying though, all right? Eight seven to
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Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. Charles Barkley,
who is not afraid of the hot take, is that
a few of them over the years. He was appearing
on ESPN and he had this to say about Jalen
Brunson in terms of his status as a free agent signing.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Listen, I said to a few years ago, I think
Bronson might turn out to be the greatest free agent signing.
I'm not talking about Lebron and Kevin Durandon guys like that,
but I think Bronson, if he's able to deliver a
championship to New York, it'd be the greatest free agent
signing in NBA history. Nobody knew he was going to
beat as good.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
You got nobody when New York signed him. They didn't
think he was gonna be as good. He's turned them
into a perennial contender. They went from being never being
talked about to the conference finals last year. Now they're
in the finals because the Bronson. So if he's able
to finish this journey, Mike, it would be the greatest
free agent sign in NBA history.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So you got to go back and think about free
agent signings, and free agency really came in vogue in
i'd say the eighties nineties, when things started to open
up a little bit. Now, Barkley qualified two of the
biggest hitching signings of the twenty tens. You had Lebron James.
I guess you could be talking about both Lebron James
going to Miami, going back to Cleveland, going to Los Angeles,
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whichever one you wanted to focus on. Kevin Durant. Nobody
expected Kevin Durant at the time to go sign with
the Golden State Warriors winds up winning two championships there,
probably would have won a third if you didn't get
injured in that twenty nineteen finals. So he takes those
two guys out of the picture. So Jalen Brunson signs
with the Knicks. I would argue that Shack going to
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the Lakers in the nineteen nineties was a bigger signing
than Jalen Brunson going to the New York next Now
you can argue that Brunson was a more unexpected signing.
Nobody thought Jalen Brunson was going to be this guy.
I agree with Barkley on that one. At best, people
thought Jalen Brunson would be the kind of guard we
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saw at the end in Dallas, a guy that could
start be a great co star, be a serviceable top
fifteen point guard who can give you eighty two games
at that position, but never be great on either end
of the floor. What he's become is nothing short of spectacular.
He's on a short list for the top point guards
in the NBA. We've discussed at length at this show
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what a championship would do for him. If he win
the championship, do we elevate Jalen Brunson to the Mount
rushmore of six too and undergo arts? The list is short.
Iverson's on that list, Bob Coosey's on that list. Isaiah
Thomas is on that list. After that, you're talking Tiny Archibald,
you're talking Chris Paul. We made the point, John Stockton,
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I would have him on that list. Steve Nash six
foot three doesn't count six foot three yet.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Paul, you could probably put Nash on the greatest free
agent signings of all time. I think he was a
free agent at age twenty nine with Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Very It's always Dallas. Why is that always Dallas the
screwing this up.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, he had made two straight All Star teams with
Dallas and he was a really good player. He's averaging
fifteen and eight. Then he goes to the Suns and
he wins back to back MVP.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So you remember the story about that was that the
Mavericks didn't believe that Nash's body was going to hold up.
He had the back issues that Mark Cuban, don Nelson,
they didn't believe that wasn't mell Yes Cuba at that time,
Cuban and Nelly were both They didn't believe that Nash
would be healthy enough to validate the kind of contract
that the Phoenix Suns game. Whoa were they mistaken? Woa
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they miss on that one. They've got a bad I
mean just saying it out loud, like Steve Nash let
him go. Luka Doncic traded in for nothing. Jalen Brunson
wouldn't give him four years and fifty five million in
the summer of twenty twenty one. What are we doing
is what could have been with the Dallas Mavericks. I
don't know, but Steve Nash not on that list. Def
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Curry sixty three not on that list either, but Jalen
Brunson belongs in the conversation for the best small player
under six to two of all time. And as far
as best freedom signing goes most unexpected, I would say
is the best way to put it. I think Shaq,
as far as free agent signs go, led the Lakers
to three championships. You knew what he was like. He
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was an elite player when he left the Orlando Magic,
and he went to LA for a lot of the
same reasons Lebron went to La. Not Lebron didn't want
to be in movies. I was in train Wreck, good movie.
Shack went there for Hollywood aspirations in part. You wanted
to be in Los Angeles on the biggest stage. We
knew how good Shaq was, we didn't know how good
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Jalen Bronson was. Yeah, Dylan, Yeah. I feel like.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Knicks fans were actually more excited about the Julius Randall
signing when it happened to Jalen Runson. And then who
do they get because of Julius Randall, Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You might be right, You might be right about being
more excited about that signing because look at the time,
it was considered a coup that the Knicks were able
to lure Brunson away from the Mavericks. But it was
also questionable how much money they gave him, like one
hundred and four million dollars, I think it was at
that time, was like, whoa damn. This guy's had one
season where he took over when Doncic was injured. Is
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he really worked that? Can he be that guy? We're
blowing up our salary cap because of Brunson. Turns out
they made the right move. Yeah, Paul I just went
back and looked at Shaq's stats. He was twenty three
his last year in Orlando, but he had only played
fifty two games.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
He started getting hurt. He was down to ninth on
the MVP list. His stats were down a little bit,
so anyone. His first year in Los Angeles, same thing,
fifty one games, a bit injured, He was ninth for MVP.
But then he ramped it up every year after that.
He started playing more games and he went to like
six for the MVP first third, third. So it started
a little slow with Shack in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, you had some some tough goes of it with
Orlando that magic team. I mean, injuries derailed what they
could have been. Shack Penny Hardaway. Go back and watch
that documentary, the thirty for thirty on Shack and Penny.
That's pretty pretty revealing stuff.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Yet, and when we talk about the Spurs, we cannot
do what we did with the Thunder with Kevin Durant
and those guys, and the Magic with Shack and Penny.
And that's saying they'll be back. You don't know if
they'll be back.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
That's the thing too. You don't know the Knicks much
more than San Antonio. You've got a lot of questions.
Even though the Eastern Conference is a lot weaker. I
think the Knicks have a three year window here. You know,
Kat is thirty years old, Brunston's right around the same age. Oh,
Giannaobi young guy, Mikhale Bridge is still a young guy
going into next year. If Boston runs it back with
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a healthy Jason Tatum, you'd probably make them the favorites
if they go out in a dress some of the
needs that they've got Cleveland, we'll see what they do
in the offseason. But the Eastern Conference, like this is
you know, people say, like, look at the Eastern conference like, oh,
it's like the secondary conference.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Then it is.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
It's a much lesser, less talented conference. But the argument
for an Eastern Conference team winning a championship against a
superior Western Conference team is being made right now because
all credit to the Knicks were what they did in
Game one, what they might do for the series. But
San Antonio is shop worn coming in. San Antonio has
taken a beating during the playoffs. They go what six
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games Minnesota, that's tough. They go seven with Oklahoma City,
that's tougher. They're down three to two every and look,
the West is not getting any easier. Like all those
teams that stunk out the joint the bottom, they're gonna
get better, Like Utah. Utah tried to be bad last year,
but they're not really that bad. They've got Jaron Jackson,
junior Lowry Mark and another high draft pick this year
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meant this, could they be better if they make some moves.
Portland they're a team on the rise. New Orleans they
just got a new coach. They could be better. It's
not gonna get any easier. In the Western Conference playoffs.
You could have first round series between an eight seed
and one seed going seven games. It's very possible for
these things to happen, and for the team that comes
out of the Western Conference to be so embattled, to
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be so beat up that a team with lesser talent
that has to go through a lot less has a
chance to beat them.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, Paul, all right, Chris, Chris Mannock's joining us today.
You haven't been here in a long time. Some of
the guys in the back room just heard today and
maybe even listeners. Your first job in sports out of
college was what.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
My first job in sports out of college? In college?
Out of college?
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Your job?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You're, oh, my ball boy?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Years?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Your ball boy? Yes, I was, I like to call
myself locker room attendant with the Boston Celtics for eight years,
most of the bad years. What years ninety five, the
first year the garden opened, ninety five to three. I
graduated college in two thousand and three and got the
job as a fact checker with Sports Illustrated short thereafter.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
And part of your job, for those who don't know,
you've got pictures like you helped warm up Michael Geordan
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yes, explain before Look, things were a lot more loose
back in those days, before games I like to engage
with some of the players on visiting teams in I
wouldn't say games of one on one because I really
got the ball, but i'd play defense against them. My
Jordan's story was, which I've said, I think on the
show before, is that Jordan was. I think it was
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ninety six ninety seven, last couple of years with the Bulls.
Like most six foot two, six foot three white point guards,
I wanted to be Bobby Hurley, like, I thought that
was my future. So I was a big Duke fan,
had the Duke shirt on at all times. Michael before
Sell this game, I think was actually the first game
of the season that year. If I go back that far,
Michael was walking by and he saw the shirt Michael
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UNC guy Carolina Blue through and through. He said, Duke sucks.
And I turned around and I said, you suck.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
It.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Just was kind of reflexive in that moment, and he
took it in the right way. He kind of dragged
me over and we started to kind of go at
it there a little bit. One on one. He was
just as good as you might expect. He was nail
and turn around jumpers on me. I was just some
skinny seventeen eighteen year old at that time. He was
kicking my butt, but it was fun. I have a
lot of those.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Stories, yeah, Paul, And I've seen a picture this year
with your forum of George Bank. But he's so competitive
that he had to take a ball boy with a
Duke shirt on out there and say hey, here's a reminder.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, even he didn't. I was on the floor anyway,
Like I don't want to oversell it, like I did
say he sucked, like I said that in that moment,
which looking back on it maybe not the wisest maneuver,
but Kaye, it was kind of a reflex. He was
kind of a reflex saying something like that. But Gray
Omen he did a lot of that. Stephon Marbury was
a guy that I went up against Ray Allen when
he was on multiple teams. I used to go up
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against and a lot of guys. It's not to digress
too much. Kobe a little bit too. I did at
some with Kobe. I was I was a younger guy
with Kobe Bryant. Always see it up on the screen
there if you're watching on Peacock and Sports Network. I
did that a lot with those guys, and a lot
of those guys when I graduated college and they saw
me walking around with a press pass on and a
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notebook and in the locker room as a journalist. A
lot of those guys I could tell were wondering what
they may have said to me and what I may
have been because there were a lot of guys back
in the day. One of my jobs when I was
working the visiting locker room was whatever a visiting player needs,
you go and you take care of right. A lot
of times it was booze. A lot of times it
was women. A lot of guys that were like I
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used to be the guy that if somebody saw somebody
this says before at Internet tender, things like that hookup guy,
the hookup guy. So if a guy saw someone a
girl in the crowd and he wanted to get her
phone number, he'd send me up, And of course I
go up because usually if I got the numbers, one
hundred old billion, it for me at the end of
the night. I'm in college. It's great. There was a guy,
Lee Nalon was his name. Lee Naylon played back in
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the day. Lee Nalon. I remember one game where he
wasn't playing. He wasn't playing for this team at the time.
He was on the bench, but he wasn't active or
he wasn't playing.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
He sent me up after one girl. The girl looked
down said no, uh came back, so Lee went to
another one quo jo girl up in the stand. I
must have got up in the stands three times before
I got somebody's phone number for my PALLEI dang it
was then.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's hard to get numbers on the bench. If you're
out playing, it's.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Easy, I I guess, yeah, but I would go up
there and do that. Alan Iverson the one I've told
a couple of times in the past. Think I wrote
a story about this once. Alan Iverson was after the
Celtics beat the seventy six. I want to say, O
two first round beat them in five games, kind of
the rise of Paul Pierce and Nantwan Walker and those teams.
After the game, Iverson gives me, I think it must
have give me a two thousand dollars three thousand. I
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don't know what it was. Just told me to get
as much corona and different drinks as I can get. So,
if you're familiar with the Boston Garden area, there's not
a liquor store across the street. You've got to go
up the hill, and I don't have a car, A
and B, even if I did, like driving around after
a game in that area is impossible. You're not doing that.
So I take one of those hand trucks and I'm
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rolling the hand truck up the hill and I go
into the liquor store that's on top of the hill.
I forget the name of the street, but it's up there,
and I just start grabbing racks of Corona, grabbing musta
at fifteen twenty, I don't know. I grabbed a couple
of bottles of what they were looking for, and I
start to make my way back down the hill. As
I'm making my way back down the hill, the game
is letting out, so I've got people trying to grab
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racks off the case. I'm doing my best to play
defense on them, trying to bring them in. I'm pretty
successful at bringing all this booze into the garden. As
I get into the arena, the Celtics start coming down
the stairs. And the Celtics just advance to the second round,
so they're coming down the stairs and they're grabbing the
thirty racks they're taking beer off the off the cart
from me, and I'm not gonna say no to Tony
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Batti and Paul Pierce and guys like that that are
celebrating winning. So I get back to the truck or
I get back to the team bus and I'm unloading
some of this and Iverson's like, you know, he didn't
want to change back anyway, but he's like, this is
all you got. I had like a third of my
inventory by the time I got back to that truck.
But I made sure there was a case on his
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seat and some other stuff that was there.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I want you, I forget, but he said keep the
change off of like whatever, Like he didn't care.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
He didn't It didn't really affect him how much money.
He just wanted enough for him and his teammates to
I guess drink away this first round series loss tough.
I got a lot of good stuff, good gig. I
got a lot of those stories. Now, that was the
best college gig anybody could ever have, because you made
like two three hundred bucks a night, And you guys know,
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in the nineteen nineties in college early two thousands, three
hundred dollars, you might as well be a millionaire walking
into the bar, You'd be like, Oh, let's spread it
around our first rounds on me, second rounds on me.
I was, I was feeling it during those days, all right,
eight seven to seven three DP shows the phone number,
email address of course, DP at Danpatrick dot com. Game
two spur against Nick tomorrow night. But I want to
(34:01):
talk a little bit about game three in game four?
How much is it gonna cost to get into the
building for Game three? In Game four? Get the poll
poor results as well, what we learned? Go around the room.
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Speaker 2 (34:25):
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e Q dot com. I don't they've ever been here
for a Meet Friday. That was something else. That was
like three minutes of heaven in the back. That was
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pretty impressive. Like that, I gotta come back more for
these these fridays. All right, Paul, you have a news.
I haven't done best weekend sports here and I've been
on the show. Why don't you walk me through it?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
So it could be a person, an entity, a player, coach,
anyone who had a great week in sports for whatever reasons.
Your pick. I'll go first. I'll give you example. Russell
Wilson retired from the NFL career wasn't going that great.
He got a prime gig at CBIA Sports on their
football show. And that's a really nice gig, a lot
of dough, it's living in New York City. He had
(35:16):
a great week considering how last year went.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
All right, Marvin, what do you got?
Speaker 9 (35:20):
Miles Garrett getting traded from the lowly Cleveland Browns to
the Super Bowl contender La Rams.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's nice. That's nice going to Cleveland to La get
a lot of money. Maybe Aaron Donald comes back and
wants to play with you. I don't know what can
happen there, Dylan, what do you got? I gotta go
with the AFC North because Miles Garrett isn't there anymore. Okay,
Fritzy recently buys him, giving it to forward Seth Jarvis
of the Carolina Hurricanes. If he doesn't get that overtime goal,
they lose their first two at home and it down
O two going to Vegas. Yeah, you had no idea
(35:47):
how Seth Jarvis was until last knock.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Mike Jarvis at that former coach.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
George Washington.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Sat john'step deep cut.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Do you having his long It's good, Mike Jarvis. I'm
gonna go with seven footers everywhere. And I say that
because we're in today's NBA. The last five ten years,
it's evolved towards more small ball, and even if you
are a center, you're being asked to shoot three pointers. Now,
if you're seven feet and you got some muscle on you,
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you're gonna be needed to defend Victor webgyon for the
next fifteen years. Like if you're a team, I got
to use Isaiah Hartenstein as an example, Mitchell Robinson as
an example. These are guys that you'd look at and
be all right, fifteen to twenty million a year type
of players now because the demand for them is going
to be so high. You got a big contract thirty
million dollars a year, thirty five I don't know, something
(36:41):
like that.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
Yeah, Marvin, that's kind of like in the nineties when
the Spurs gave him a leak Rose a big deal
just because he can kind of deal with Shack just
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I mean, look, three and D guys are still in vogue.
They still get a lot of money, They're still popular.
But now I think the days of like the plotting
seven footer is back, the burly big Man is back.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, PAULI you gotta give Marvin a little credit for
the Molik Rose pole I did.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
That is a good that's a good poll. That's better
than Mike Jarvis. I'll give him that much, that's for sure. Dylan,
what do you got?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Paul actually said this to me earlier as a poll question.
We didn't get to it, but I think it's a
good topic for the room.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
You can be seven feet tall and play in the
NBA for five years as a backup and make like
twenty million dollars, but you're seven feet you know, for
the rest of your life, or just stay as you are.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
M I'd take the twenty million dollars. Yeah, I'd live
with being seven feet The discomfort in cars, planes, things
like that, and this is shopping.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
I know you got twenty millions to you custom clothes.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, what about I mean, what if you're like seven
to five? That's that's different, Like do you like taco?
Fall is an example, Like a guy that didn't have
a long NBA career, made a couple of bucks, made
some money over in China too, so made a little
bit of money. But he's seven foot five and travel
is going to be difficult for him for the rest
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of his natural life. Like that's yeah, seven to five
is tough. Seven foot I could probably get around with.
I'm six three. It's it's a big difference. I'd give you,
but it's it's right there.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I I seven foot, twenty million dollars seven to five,
I'd pass on it. Game two is tonight. Tickets are expensive,
though Knicks fans are all there and droves. That's because
the get in price for games three in game four
is outrageous, outrageous in New York City, PAULI, as of today,
what are the get in prices for game three? In
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game four?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
For one ticket bad seat seventy two hundred for Game three?
It gets better or worse for Game four eights for
the worst seat in the house.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Can I tell you that some of these bad seats
that you're talking about are really bad, Like they're really bad,
Like they're not They're not only high, many of them
are obstructed view, like you're some of the ones I've
looked at from the Press Sex, which is also pretty
high up. You watch are mostly watching on a monitor,
the monitors right in front of you. It's kind of
lowered down. You get a half look at the floor.
It's very difficult to watch the game action in some
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of these seats. The idea of paying seventy five hundred
dollars get in to watch Game three, that's wild to me.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, but Game four eight thousand dollars, you're buying the
ability to stay for the rest of your life. I
was there. No one's gonna ask you. If you're a
Row four hundred or Row eight, they may ask you,
but you just say I was there forever.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, I mean, I guess I say no now. But
it's like use like the Goodwill Hunting reference, like being
at the game at the Carlton Fist game for the
Red Sox and you get the home run, like you
don't know what's gonna happen, Like if it's just a
run of the mill game. You're like, I paid seventy
five hundred bucks. S Thatt's a car. That's a new car.
I could have bought for something like that instead. But
if it turns out to be the greatest game in
NBA history, then short you can say that, yeah, Fritz.
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And if you're a big Knicks fan and it's like
I was there for the one thirteen seventy nine loss
or whatever, if that goes really poorly, it's that much
worse that you spent all that money so your team get.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
The kind of up.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
It's like the Knicks fans that you know, you probably
thought three quarters into Game one of the Conference Finals
when they're down twenty two points in the fourth quarter, like, damn,
what did I pay for? I probably paid five grand
to get this good seat to this one game. But
I guess it all depends on how how the game
plays on. I thought Jalen Brunson had a good answer
to the question he was asked yesterday at Media Day.
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People were telling Brunson what these get in prices were,
right around seventy five hundred dollars. He was asked what
he would pay seventy five hundred dollars to actually go
and see.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
There was a report that in the last row of
the garden their seats on sale for seventy five hundred dollars.
I'm curious what show would you pay seventy five hundred
dollars to go see.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
That's a good question. Alive Michael Jackson performance, That's a
good one.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I think that's probably off the table at the moment.
But he's not gonna go see the theory. In theory,
I guess you can go and see that. I can't.
Is there anything you guys would pay seventy five hundred
dollars to go and see?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Go ahead, Bally, If to get a ticket to cut
Game seven of the Cubs World Series, I.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Would have paid that. Yeah, because of the drought once
in a lifetime.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I might have felt the same way about the Red
Sox in Game four if I had the money and
could afford it. Yeah, maybe I thought that.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, Fritzy, if I knew they were gonna win the
Bronco Packer of Broncos first Super Bowl with the LA
beating four Super Bowl thirty two in San Diego, I
would have dropped a few thousand dollars to be there
for their very first win.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Dylan, anything for you. It would probably be a musical
act that's not around anymore. And what about you, Marvin
u com Final four. Well, somebody's gonna payeventy five hundred
dollars or more six figures to get into these games anyway. Guys,
great to be here, great to be back. Enjoyed it.
See you guys in six years, seven
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Our three of the program. Chris Mannix sitting in for
DP on this Friday. Good to be back with you
and the boys. First two hours, flying along, a lot
to get to here. In the third hour, Sam Amek
the Great Rider over with the Athletic He's going to
join us just a few minutes from now and talk
about what's going on down in San Antonio. In Carolina.
Last night we had the Hurricanes evening up their Stanley
(00:26):
Cup Final series against the Las Vegas Golden Knights. Dan
Patrick's Las Vegas Golden Knights. One of the things I
first noticed is sit down and the at the jersey here.
We got a lot of new things here in the Mancave.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We were out there a few months ago for the
F one race and the gold Knight sent over some swag,
really nice stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, well, good jersey also got a is it a gong?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Here?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
There's a lot of stuff in this mancave I'm just
unfamiliar with, having not been here for six seven years.
The Las Vegas Golden Knights and the Hurricanes even up
at one great game last night. Watched the third period.
Not a lot happening. First ten minutes too nothing, Golden
Knights lead, Then all of a sudden, Hurricanes came to life,
score three goals in the third period, wind up winning
(01:06):
the game four minutes into overtime. Tremendous fun. It's always
fun to watch Stanley Cup Final hockey just because you
never know what's gonna happen. The The Hurricanes look lifeless
for most of that game, they turn it around, tie
the game up and regulation win it in overtime. Game
two of the NBA Finals is tonight. The New York
Knicks with the one nothing series lead over the San
Antonio Spurs. A must win game for the San Antonio Spurs.
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Gotta win it this time. There have been teams in
NBA history that have come back from down oh two.
We saw the Milwaukee Bucks do it in twenty twenty one,
came back to beat the Phoenix Suns. The Cleveland Cavaliers
they came back to beat the Warriors they were down
two zip. Big win for the Cavs. The common thread
with both those teams, though, is they lost the first
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two games on the road. If the Spurs lose the
first two games at home, it is improbable. If not
impossible to believe that San Antoni can come back and
beat the Knicks with three of those next five games
potentially being played at Massive Square Garden. Big Game for
Jalen Brunson gets thirty points in game one. We've been
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talking a lot about where he's elevated himself onto that
next level. Is he the greatest nick of all time?
If he wins a championship this year, does he go
on the Mount rushmore of players six foot two and under.
We've had some calls some comments about that over the
last couple of hours. Some names that should be on
that list. Isaiah Thomas on that list, we had Tiny
(02:33):
Archibald added to that list. Alan Iverson of course belongs
on that list. Chris Paul. A debate over Chris Paul
being on that list, but Jalen Brunson winning a title
in New York as the number one option on his
team got to give him consideration to be on that list.
Big Game for Victor Weiman Yaum and the Spurs as well.
Wemby good stat line in game one, twenty six points,
(02:56):
twelve rebounds, but he was six of twenty one from
the floor and he was just a perimeter guy. You know,
I love a seven ft four guy that can shoot threes,
but you need a guy getting the paint. Two of
nine of three point reigns, it's not going to get
it done in Game two, must win game for the
San Antonio Spurs, playing on their home floor. Eight seven
to seven three DP shows the phone number email address
(03:17):
DP at Danpatrick dot com. Sam Amick, senior writer over
at the Athletic. He is down in San Antonio, Sam.
Let me ask you this, Jalen Brunson leads the Knicks
to the championship. Is Jalen Brunson the greatest Nick of
all time?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Mister Mannix, good to see you. Is he the greatest
Nick of all time? It's maybe?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You know? I mean? That was quick side story from
the playoff Road. Here.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I was at an establishment last night with the lovely
daughter of one Patrick Ewing, so Randy Ewing, so she
might have something to say about this debate.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
You know, there's a long list of great Knicks.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
I don't care to be honest with you where Jalen
falls in that debate. I'd like the other debate better,
Like this six to an under thing is is wild?
Chris Paul deserves to be on that list. But but
Jalen is doing the type of stuff that sparks these debates,
doing the type of stuff that you know, not to
have somebody catch as straight. But I keep laughing about
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the Becky Hammond, like the whole.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Commentary where Becky you know, said so long ago.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
That Jalen could not be the number one guy on
a championship team, and she stood on that recently, which
was kind of, you know, strange.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
He's just been incredible. Man.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
He's fun to watch and you know, you know, on
West Coast base, so I don't see the Knicks as much,
and buddy, to watch Jalen do what he did in
the fourth quarter, it was fun. It was neat to
see because it was like, oh, this dude is as
advertised when it matters most.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What's been the vibe around the Spurs the last couple
of days.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Fine, they're pretty for a young group, they're they're pretty
even keeled. They you know, they're mature, you know, Wenby,
I'm always really interest did how he's going to handle
his voice and his messaging. I did think it was
interesting after Game one that you know, and you know
this like he kind of wasted no time sliding in
quite a few comments about your confidence, and you know,
(05:13):
I'm not worried in the slightest, you know, just trajecting
the kind of way you would expect for a confident guy. Uh,
they seem fine. I mean you just hit the nail
on the head when you talked about game two. Is
the like, let's do a false check if they lose
game two. You know they're gonna be fine if they
split this thing at home, and not to put you,
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you know, give you a homework assignment. I did wonder
because you detailed the teams that went down oh too
when they were you know, on the road. Have we
had a champion who lost the first two at home,
so we know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I forget what the six heat did? I know they
were another team that was down oh two when they
came back to beat Dallas. But that's the only one
that there haven't been that netty that have come back
from oh to It's only been a handful.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, Because when you said this was must win, I
was gonna give you a hard time and say it
was hyperbole, and then as you laid it out.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
It was like, it's pretty important. So what happens, Sam,
I'm facts.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He always fact. I don't think it's ever didn't have
with Miami. I think they were they lost the first
two on the road. Uh, and those are the teams
I mentioned lost on the road as well. So adjustment
for San Antonio. What do you think is the biggest
adjustment they're gonna make going into game two.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Well, it's the same thing they've battled throughout the playoffs,
which is that as great as Wemby is, as part
of this is youth and and it's him trying to
figure out the chess match.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
He's inconsistent.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
He has a roller coaster, uh you know, kind of
element to his game. So they've got to you already
said this, They've got to get him inside more. Yes,
it's it was super fun when he hit that thirty
five footer in the last round in Game one. Okay, fine,
but uh getting pushed out by kat getting pushed out by.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Ogn No and Mitchell Robinson.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
The problem is, I just don't know how you know
doable that is because this is literally the roster construction
that you should want to have to go at Wemby
and going into the series. I wrote a whole piece
where I talked to some front office folks about the
domino effect of what Victor was doing. And the reality is,
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the irony is is that like most of the people
I talked to pointed to the Knicks roster construction as
what you should want. A guy like Kat who's seven feet,
two hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
You know, Mitch big boy, a lot of halft.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
You know, he can bully Webby and he's athletic enough
to keep up with him same you know, og and
what he brings.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
So getting Victor going first and foremost.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Secondly, you know the others in the West Finals for
the Spurs, you know, Dierre Fox, Julian Champenny, Dylan Harper,
all the way down line.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Kell the Johnson had a fantastic finish to that series.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
You know, those guys have got to show up because
you know, yes, Vick was sixty twenty one and struggled
a bit, but but the other guys weren't.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Weren't helping to either.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
What Kevin Johnson gain like eight minutes in this that
game one that was surprising. Yeah, A thought sixth Man
of the Year. I thought he'd be a natural guy
to put on Towns for stretches. Uh, that surprised me
our little minutes He's got we You know, I thought
that the fatigue sam was a little bit overblown coming
into the series, because I thought three days was a
long time, and I thought think about being at home
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was going to be enough for San Antonio to recharge
the batteries and not make fatigue as big an issue
as somewhere. But I'm watching that game one. I'm sitting
there and I'm looking at Victor Webbin Yama kind of
grabbing his knees in the first quarter. I'm looking at
some of these other guys just not look like they've
had the same energy that they did early in that
series in Oklahoma City. How big a fact do you
(08:48):
think fatigue's going to be in this game too, and
potentially the rest of the series.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
It's significant, But I'm confused, you know again, like I
was not around Victor that much also long, So now
you know this is we've done this a long time.
You get in the gym with these guys and you
try to study them and learn how they're wired, how
they operate. Victor and the way that he crashes out
from a fatigue standpoint is puzzling, because yes, I understand
(09:15):
he's seven foot four, but he's not lugging around three
hundred pounds, you know. But he absolutely does have these
moments and you just hit on it, like early in
the game when he's clutching at the knees or or
you know, looking for a blow that doesn't make sense.
And that's where as transcendent great, you know, and talented
as he is, the inconsistency part has got to be
(09:36):
tricky for ms Johnson, you know, from a rotation standpoint,
because you know, is that tied to not having as
much of a break as the Knicks coming out of
the West Finals, Like that's a little hard to believe,
Like you said, three days, so they.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Got to fight through that.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
You didn't see any of that from the Knicks, and
I don't really think as necessarily because of you know,
that long stretch that they had to rest. But Wenby's
great again. I keep kind of hitting the same point.
He's great, but he comes and goes a bit.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
How short a leash do you think the Aaron Fox
will be on tonight?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Very curious to see it because there are bigger picture
implications of that kind of a choice.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
I've been asked this a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
And my thing is the Spurs from a culture standpoint,
are obviously incredibly savvy, and they know that the moment
you open the door to the Dylan Harper era and
you put the Aaron, you know, on the bench, you know,
you know, because of the stakes of what's going on
right now, like he's going to be a domino effect.
(10:37):
And that's very tricky for them from a planning standpoint,
because yes, they have this historical backdrop where Montageenobli famously
agrees to go to the bench with Greg Popovich's you know,
kind of nudging, and the rest is history.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
He's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Montagenobili was not making sixty million dollars a year, which
is what the Aaron is on track to make, and
so the solution is not quite as even fd Aaron
at some point was willing to yield to the young
fella in terms of a contract, roster construction.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
That's an issue.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So but you got a championship on the line, so
you know, would I be shocked to see it, you know,
I'd be surprised. I don't know how short the leash is.
Dylan didn't show out though. That's the other thing. He
had a good first half, but four points in the
second half. You know, he faded a bit. But the
more pressure that he applies with his play and then
with the Aaron, you know, if he keeps doing what
(11:30):
he did in Game one, which was having a hard time,
then you know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Talking to Sam an mix Sen, you're NBA writer over
at the Athletic in San Antonio for Game two of
the NBA Finals tonight. Sam, we are right around three
weeks away from the NBA Draft, which is three weeks
away from the self imposed deadline that the Milwaukee Bucks
have to trade Jannistindecompo. What have you been hearing over
the last couple of days about Giannis and how likely
(11:56):
do you think it is that Giannis has traded before
the June draft?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Seems very likely, Admittedly, you know that it's not often
you have an owner, you know, publicly framing the timeline,
and that's what Jimmy HASLM.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Did you know we just saw Jimmy has them do
a blockbuster.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Trade with Miles Garrett in the NFL, showing he's certainly
ready to pull that trigger if he needs to. I
do expect it to happen. Miami, as you know, is
the loudest noise. You know, you continue to hear that.
But what I tried to write the other day with
my colleague Eric name, and it was interesting to get into,
is yes, it appears, you know, everybody you talk to
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says Miami at the deadline, had a deal that was closed,
had a deal that they thought was going to happen.
The Bucks ended up backing out, and so the noise
is tied to Miami. But there's also some intel discussion,
you know, kind of understanding that Giannis has questions about
what that Miami roster would look like on the other
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side of a deal. You know, it reminds me of
the Carmelo Anthony dilemma when he went from Denver to
the next Like you don't want to get the roster,
go to the place that you're excited to be to,
you know, be in, and then have a hard time
contending for a championship. And that is where you know,
we'll see what happens in the next few weeks. Because
in one of your backyards, I think the Celtics are
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are pretty intriguing options where you know, in terms of
being competitive, you know, if you do something with Boston.
And this is what we had heard from Ghanis's side,
that the intrigue is real, you know, the respect for
Joe Mizula, the way that he might see that roster.
So do I think it changes things? I don't know yet,
but you know, I do think that's worth watching.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I could see why Giannis would want to play in Boston.
I still struggle to see why Boston would give up
the kind of assets it would need to give up
to go and get yn. It's not that they aren't
considering it, but if I'm running the Celtics, I'm not
trading Jalen Brown and a couple of draft picks for Yostivakopo.
Not in a real action to a bad first round
(14:03):
loss to the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Mostly because I
don't trust Giannis's health. Sam. I don't trust that he's
had multiple years of soft tissue injuries and you're going
to have to give this guy a multi year contract
at the full max. Now you're talking about having two
full max guys on your roster in Jason Tatum and Jostindecompoll,
both of whom have dealt with significant injuries over the
(14:26):
last couple of years. I know Jalen Brown is not
a perfect fit. I know the Celtics want to get
more pressure on the rim. Brad Stevens talked about that,
but to me, the risk is just too big to
go all in on a player like Giannis at this stage.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Well, and it's very sensitive too, Like the Jalen Brown
thing that you just hit on. It's like when the noise.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Got loud a couple months ago regarding Dalen and how
he saw him the season and all the chatter about
what he said on the live stream that it was
the most fun he'd ever had and that was confusing
because you know, it just set this message that he
wanted his own team. As you know the Celtics, you know,
they went to great lengths to kind of massage that
situation and get things back in a good place. And
(15:05):
they're not the only team dealing with this, like Miami
is and this is Giannis related. Miami is is loud
with it right now. They don't care if everybody knows
that they're chasing Giannis because they don't really care what
Tyler Hero feels about getting traded. But like Boston's got
to be sensitive, you know the Knicks are unofficially out
because of what they're doing. But you remember Karl Anthony
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Towns was not real thrilled to have his name attached
to the g honest discussion, you know previously. Like that
is where I think we could see a wild card
team come on strong, you know, and come out of
the shadows, so to speak, because I think there's a
lot of teams that are absolutely looking at this and
interested here, but also have to pay attention to their
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own locker room dynamics.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
If somebody offered you one hundred thousand dollars for your
press pass for Game three in New York, would you
take it?
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I mean, journalistically, absolutely not. I would never consider such
a thing.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I think I think about it if you're a Nicks
fan on the Capital.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Journalist, if there's so, yeah, but the spirit of your question,
like I mean, yeah, Hunter K's I'm good with that.
That's you know, the production value on TV these days
is pretty pretty high. I'll hang out with somebodies and
watch this thing on a big old projector screen and you.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Know, laugh all the way to the bank, and they
transcribe all the quotes for you.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Sam.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's all available fired out. You got kids. I got
a kid now, it's like, you know, you gotta look
out for number one. There, Sam, good Sam.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Let me add on to this man. I'm fired up
to go to New York.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Man, Like I'm a West Coaster, So I don't know
if I would take that money because like I don't
I don't see the garden very often.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I don't see the chaos.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You know, I don't really Sacramento guy in New York.
There we go. This is when we yea Sacramento guy text,
by the way to get your take quickly on Uh yeah,
question that came up, more dysfunctional, more irrelevant. Right now.
The Brooklyn Nets are the Sacramento Kings.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I mean, uh, the Kings have things that they're trying
to work on and to get out of the ditch.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I don't know what Brooklyn's doing, so I actually probably
go at Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
They got young players in Brooklyn, though, Sam, like, at
least you've got like some hope like Sacramento, who wants
to be there right now? Like who wants to be
part of that team at the moment.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
It is Listen, it is painful. I mean, as you know,
you have Mike Brown garon Fox. In the finals. You
have ogananob a guy that I've contested and contend that
they should have traded for to take the Beam team
to the next level. There's all kinds of six degrees
of Sacramento pains in this NBA Finals right now.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, you got to hate that Sacramento watching their former
head coach and their former star compete for a championship.
One of them is going to win it at the
in the next couple of weeks. Great stuff, Sam, Good
to catch up with you and I will see you
in New York City. Try to, you know, keep it
under control there these late nights in New York. They
don't in New York City.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yeah, we know about that. I've met with you out there.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You got it all right, buddy, Good stuff, Sam, Sam
Annex senior writer over at the Athletic joining us here
on the Dan Patrick Show. I say, Sacramento. I understand
what he's saying about Brooklyn, but Brooklyn's got guys that
want to be there. Nobody wants to be in Sacramento.
Like I would put every Nickel I owned the Doug
Christie's not going to be the head coach of the
Sacramento Kings one year from today, not gonna happen. They're
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gonna go in a different direction. Hopefully get a good
young player. See if they can win that way.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, Pauli mad You're King's management thinking. You know it's quiet,
the NBA Finals going on. They're not gonna talk about
us in our futilities.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
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Speaker 2 (19:25):
Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. Charles Barkley,
who is not afraid of the hot take, is that
a few of them over the years. He was appearing
on ESPN and he had this to say about Jalen
Brunson in terms of his status as a free agent signing.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Listen, I said to a few years ago, I think
Bronson might turn out to be the greatest free agent signing.
I'm not talking about Lebron and Kevin Durandon guys like that,
but I think Bronson, if he's able to deliver a
championship to New York, it'd be the greatest free agent
signing in NBA history. Nobody knew he was going to
beat as good.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
You got nobody when New York signed him. They didn't
think he was gonna be as good. He's turned them
into a perennial contender. They went from being never being
talked about to the conference finals last year. Now they're
in the finals because the Bronson. So if he's able
to finish this journey, Mike, it would be the greatest
free agent sign in NBA history.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So you got to go back and think about free
agent signings, and free agency really came in vogue in
i'd say the eighties nineties, when things started to open
up a little bit. Now, Barkley qualified two of the
biggest hitching signings of the twenty tens. You had Lebron James.
I guess you could be talking about both Lebron James
going to Miami, going back to Cleveland, going to Los Angeles,
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whichever one you wanted to focus on. Kevin Durant. Nobody
expected Kevin Durant at the time to go sign with
the Golden State Warriors winds up winning two championships there,
probably would have won a third if you didn't get
injured in that twenty nineteen finals. So he takes those
two guys out of the picture. So Jalen Brunson signs
with the Knicks. I would argue that Shack going to
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the Lakers in the nineteen nineties was a bigger signing
than Jalen Brunson going to the New York next Now
you can argue that Brunson was a more unexpected signing.
Nobody thought Jalen Brunson was going to be this guy.
I agree with Barkley on that one. At best, people
thought Jalen Brunson would be the kind of guard we
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saw at the end in Dallas, a guy that could
start be a great co star, be a serviceable top
fifteen point guard who can give you eighty two games
at that position, but never be great on either end
of the floor. What he's become is nothing short of spectacular.
He's on a short list for the top point guards
in the NBA. We've discussed at length at this show
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what a championship would do for him. If he win
the championship, do we elevate Jalen Brunson to the Mount
rushmore of six too and undergo arts? The list is short.
Iverson's on that list, Bob Coosey's on that list. Isaiah
Thomas is on that list. After that, you're talking Tiny Archibald,
you're talking Chris Paul. We made the point, John Stockton,
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I would have him on that list. Steve Nash six
foot three doesn't count six foot three yet.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Paul, you could probably put Nash on the greatest free
agent signings of all time. I think he was a
free agent at age twenty nine with Dallas.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Very It's always Dallas. Why is that always Dallas the
screwing this up.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, he had made two straight All Star teams with
Dallas and he was a really good player. He's averaging
fifteen and eight. Then he goes to the Suns and
he wins back to back MVP.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So you remember the story about that was that the
Mavericks didn't believe that Nash's body was going to hold up.
He had the back issues that Mark Cuban, don Nelson,
they didn't believe that wasn't mell Yes Cuba at that time,
Cuban and Nelly were both They didn't believe that Nash
would be healthy enough to validate the kind of contract
that the Phoenix Suns game. Whoa were they mistaken? Woa
(23:00):
they miss on that one. They've got a bad I
mean just saying it out loud, like Steve Nash let
him go. Luka Doncic traded in for nothing. Jalen Brunson
wouldn't give him four years and fifty five million in
the summer of twenty twenty one. What are we doing
is what could have been with the Dallas Mavericks. I
don't know, but Steve Nash not on that list. Def
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Curry sixty three not on that list either, but Jalen
Brunson belongs in the conversation for the best small player
under six to two of all time. And as far
as best freedom signing goes most unexpected, I would say
is the best way to put it. I think Shaq,
as far as free agent signs go, led the Lakers
to three championships. You knew what he was like. He
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was an elite player when he left the Orlando Magic,
and he went to LA for a lot of the
same reasons Lebron went to La. Not Lebron didn't want
to be in movies. I was in train Wreck, good movie.
Shack went there for Hollywood aspirations in part. You wanted
to be in Los Angeles on the biggest stage. We
knew how good Shaq was, we didn't know how good
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Jalen Bronson was. Yeah, Dylan, Yeah. I feel like.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Knicks fans were actually more excited about the Julius Randall
signing when it happened to Jalen Runson. And then who
do they get because of Julius Randall, Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You might be right, You might be right about being
more excited about that signing because look at the time,
it was considered a coup that the Knicks were able
to lure Brunson away from the Mavericks. But it was
also questionable how much money they gave him, like one
hundred and four million dollars, I think it was at
that time, was like, whoa damn. This guy's had one
season where he took over when Doncic was injured. Is
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he really worked that? Can he be that guy? We're
blowing up our salary cap because of Brunson. Turns out
they made the right move. Yeah, Paul I just went
back and looked at Shaq's stats. He was twenty three
his last year in Orlando, but he had only played
fifty two games.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
He started getting hurt. He was down to ninth on
the MVP list. His stats were down a little bit,
so anyone. His first year in Los Angeles, same thing,
fifty one games, a bit injured, He was ninth for MVP.
But then he ramped it up every year after that.
He started playing more games and he went to like
six for the MVP first third, third. So it started
a little slow with Shack in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, you had some some tough goes of it with
Orlando that magic team. I mean, injuries derailed what they
could have been. Shack Penny Hardaway. Go back and watch
that documentary, the thirty for thirty on Shack and Penny.
That's pretty pretty revealing stuff.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Yet, and when we talk about the Spurs, we cannot
do what we did with the Thunder with Kevin Durant
and those guys, and the Magic with Shack and Penny.
And that's saying they'll be back. You don't know if
they'll be back.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
That's the thing too. You don't know the Knicks much
more than San Antonio. You've got a lot of questions.
Even though the Eastern Conference is a lot weaker. I
think the Knicks have a three year window here. You know,
Kat is thirty years old, Brunston's right around the same age. Oh,
Giannaobi young guy, Mikhale Bridge is still a young guy
going into next year. If Boston runs it back with
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a healthy Jason Tatum, you'd probably make them the favorites
if they go out in a dress some of the
needs that they've got Cleveland, we'll see what they do
in the offseason. But the Eastern Conference, like this is
you know, people say, like, look at the Eastern conference like, oh,
it's like the secondary conference.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
Then it is.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
It's a much lesser, less talented conference. But the argument
for an Eastern Conference team winning a championship against a
superior Western Conference team is being made right now because
all credit to the Knicks were what they did in
Game one, what they might do for the series. But
San Antonio is shop worn coming in. San Antonio has
taken a beating during the playoffs. They go what six
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games Minnesota, that's tough. They go seven with Oklahoma City,
that's tougher. They're down three to two every and look,
the West is not getting any easier. Like all those
teams that stunk out the joint the bottom, they're gonna
get better, Like Utah. Utah tried to be bad last year,
but they're not really that bad. They've got Jaron Jackson,
junior Lowry Mark and another high draft pick this year
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meant this, could they be better if they make some moves.
Portland they're a team on the rise. New Orleans they
just got a new coach. They could be better. It's
not gonna get any easier. In the Western Conference playoffs.
You could have first round series between an eight seed
and one seed going seven games. It's very possible for
these things to happen, and for the team that comes
out of the Western Conference to be so embattled, to
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be so beat up that a team with lesser talent
that has to go through a lot less has a
chance to beat them.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, Paul, all right, Chris, Chris Mannock's joining us today.
You haven't been here in a long time. Some of
the guys in the back room just heard today and
maybe even listeners. Your first job in sports out of
college was what.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
My first job in sports out of college? In college?
Out of college?
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Your job?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You're, oh, my ball boy?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Years?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Your ball boy? Yes, I was, I like to call
myself locker room attendant with the Boston Celtics for eight years,
most of the bad years. What years ninety five, the
first year the garden opened, ninety five to three. I
graduated college in two thousand and three and got the
job as a fact checker with Sports Illustrated short thereafter.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
And part of your job, for those who don't know,
you've got pictures like you helped warm up Michael Geordan
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yes, explain before Look, things were a lot more loose
back in those days, before games I like to engage
with some of the players on visiting teams in I
wouldn't say games of one on one because I really
got the ball, but i'd play defense against them. My
Jordan's story was, which I've said, I think on the
show before, is that Jordan was. I think it was
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ninety six ninety seven, last couple of years with the Bulls.
Like most six foot two, six foot three white point guards,
I wanted to be Bobby Hurley, like, I thought that
was my future. So I was a big Duke fan,
had the Duke shirt on at all times. Michael before
Sell this game, I think was actually the first game
of the season that year. If I go back that far,
Michael was walking by and he saw the shirt Michael
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UNC guy Carolina Blue through and through. He said, Duke sucks.
And I turned around and I said, you suck.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
It.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Just was kind of reflexive in that moment, and he
took it in the right way. He kind of dragged
me over and we started to kind of go at
it there a little bit. One on one. He was
just as good as you might expect. He was nail
and turn around jumpers on me. I was just some
skinny seventeen eighteen year old at that time. He was
kicking my butt, but it was fun. I have a
lot of those.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Stories, yeah, Paul, And I've seen a picture this year
with your forum of George Bank. But he's so competitive
that he had to take a ball boy with a
Duke shirt on out there and say hey, here's a reminder.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, even he didn't. I was on the floor anyway,
Like I don't want to oversell it, like I did
say he sucked, like I said that in that moment,
which looking back on it maybe not the wisest maneuver,
but Kaye, it was kind of a reflex. He was
kind of a reflex saying something like that. But Gray
Omen he did a lot of that. Stephon Marbury was
a guy that I went up against Ray Allen when
he was on multiple teams. I used to go up
(29:48):
against and a lot of guys. It's not to digress
too much. Kobe a little bit too. I did at
some with Kobe. I was I was a younger guy
with Kobe Bryant. Always see it up on the screen
there if you're watching on Peacock and Sports Network. I
did that a lot with those guys, and a lot
of those guys when I graduated college and they saw
me walking around with a press pass on and a
(30:11):
notebook and in the locker room as a journalist. A
lot of those guys I could tell were wondering what
they may have said to me and what I may
have been because there were a lot of guys back
in the day. One of my jobs when I was
working the visiting locker room was whatever a visiting player needs,
you go and you take care of right. A lot
of times it was booze. A lot of times it
was women. A lot of guys that were like I
(30:31):
used to be the guy that if somebody saw somebody
this says before at Internet tender, things like that hookup guy,
the hookup guy. So if a guy saw someone a
girl in the crowd and he wanted to get her
phone number, he'd send me up, And of course I
go up because usually if I got the numbers, one
hundred old billion, it for me at the end of
the night. I'm in college. It's great. There was a guy,
Lee Nalon was his name. Lee Naylon played back in
(30:53):
the day. Lee Nalon. I remember one game where he
wasn't playing. He wasn't playing for this team at the time.
He was on the bench, but he wasn't active or
he wasn't playing.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
He sent me up after one girl. The girl looked
down said no, uh came back, so Lee went to
another one quo jo girl up in the stand. I
must have got up in the stands three times before
I got somebody's phone number for my PALLEI dang it
was then.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's hard to get numbers on the bench. If you're
out playing, it's.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Easy, I I guess, yeah, but I would go up
there and do that. Alan Iverson the one I've told
a couple of times in the past. Think I wrote
a story about this once. Alan Iverson was after the
Celtics beat the seventy six. I want to say, O
two first round beat them in five games, kind of
the rise of Paul Pierce and Nantwan Walker and those teams.
After the game, Iverson gives me, I think it must
have give me a two thousand dollars three thousand. I
(31:44):
don't know what it was. Just told me to get
as much corona and different drinks as I can get. So,
if you're familiar with the Boston Garden area, there's not
a liquor store across the street. You've got to go
up the hill, and I don't have a car, A
and B, even if I did, like driving around after
a game in that area is impossible. You're not doing that.
So I take one of those hand trucks and I'm
(32:08):
rolling the hand truck up the hill and I go
into the liquor store that's on top of the hill.
I forget the name of the street, but it's up there,
and I just start grabbing racks of Corona, grabbing musta
at fifteen twenty, I don't know. I grabbed a couple
of bottles of what they were looking for, and I
start to make my way back down the hill. As
I'm making my way back down the hill, the game
is letting out, so I've got people trying to grab
(32:28):
racks off the case. I'm doing my best to play
defense on them, trying to bring them in. I'm pretty
successful at bringing all this booze into the garden. As
I get into the arena, the Celtics start coming down
the stairs. And the Celtics just advance to the second round,
so they're coming down the stairs and they're grabbing the
thirty racks they're taking beer off the off the cart
from me, and I'm not gonna say no to Tony
(32:49):
Batti and Paul Pierce and guys like that that are
celebrating winning. So I get back to the truck or
I get back to the team bus and I'm unloading
some of this and Iverson's like, you know, he didn't
want to change back anyway, but he's like, this is
all you got. I had like a third of my
inventory by the time I got back to that truck.
But I made sure there was a case on his
(33:10):
seat and some other stuff that was there.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I want you, I forget, but he said keep the
change off of like whatever, Like he didn't care.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
He didn't It didn't really affect him how much money.
He just wanted enough for him and his teammates to
I guess drink away this first round series loss tough.
I got a lot of good stuff, good gig. I
got a lot of those stories. Now, that was the
best college gig anybody could ever have, because you made
like two three hundred bucks a night, And you guys know,
(33:38):
in the nineteen nineties in college early two thousands, three
hundred dollars, you might as well be a millionaire walking
into the bar, You'd be like, Oh, let's spread it
around our first rounds on me, second rounds on me.
I was, I was feeling it during those days, all right,
eight seven to seven three DP shows the phone number,
email address of course, DP at Danpatrick dot com. Game
two spur against Nick tomorrow night. But I want to
(34:01):
talk a little bit about game three in game four?
How much is it gonna cost to get into the
building for Game three? In Game four? Get the poll
poor results as well, what we learned? Go around the room.
That's next. Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
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Speaker 2 (34:25):
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e Q dot com. I don't they've ever been here
for a Meet Friday. That was something else. That was
like three minutes of heaven in the back. That was
(34:48):
pretty impressive. Like that, I gotta come back more for
these these fridays. All right, Paul, you have a news.
I haven't done best weekend sports here and I've been
on the show. Why don't you walk me through it?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
So it could be a person, an entity, a player, coach,
anyone who had a great week in sports for whatever reasons.
Your pick. I'll go first. I'll give you example. Russell
Wilson retired from the NFL career wasn't going that great.
He got a prime gig at CBIA Sports on their
football show. And that's a really nice gig, a lot
of dough, it's living in New York City. He had
(35:16):
a great week considering how last year went.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
All right, Marvin, what do you got?
Speaker 9 (35:20):
Miles Garrett getting traded from the lowly Cleveland Browns to
the Super Bowl contender La Rams.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's nice. That's nice going to Cleveland to La get
a lot of money. Maybe Aaron Donald comes back and
wants to play with you. I don't know what can
happen there, Dylan, what do you got? I gotta go
with the AFC North because Miles Garrett isn't there anymore. Okay,
Fritzy recently buys him, giving it to forward Seth Jarvis
of the Carolina Hurricanes. If he doesn't get that overtime goal,
they lose their first two at home and it down
O two going to Vegas. Yeah, you had no idea
(35:47):
how Seth Jarvis was until last knock.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Mike Jarvis at that former coach.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
George Washington.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Sat john'step deep cut.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Do you having his long It's good, Mike Jarvis. I'm
gonna go with seven footers everywhere. And I say that
because we're in today's NBA. The last five ten years,
it's evolved towards more small ball, and even if you
are a center, you're being asked to shoot three pointers. Now,
if you're seven feet and you got some muscle on you,
(36:20):
you're gonna be needed to defend Victor webgyon for the
next fifteen years. Like if you're a team, I got
to use Isaiah Hartenstein as an example, Mitchell Robinson as
an example. These are guys that you'd look at and
be all right, fifteen to twenty million a year type
of players now because the demand for them is going
to be so high. You got a big contract thirty
million dollars a year, thirty five I don't know, something
(36:41):
like that.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
Yeah, Marvin, that's kind of like in the nineties when
the Spurs gave him a leak Rose a big deal
just because he can kind of deal with Shack just
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I mean, look, three and D guys are still in vogue.
They still get a lot of money, They're still popular.
But now I think the days of like the plotting
seven footer is back, the burly big Man is back.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, PAULI you gotta give Marvin a little credit for
the Molik Rose pole I did.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
That is a good that's a good poll. That's better
than Mike Jarvis. I'll give him that much, that's for sure. Dylan,
what do you got?
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Paul actually said this to me earlier as a poll question.
We didn't get to it, but I think it's a
good topic for the room.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
You can be seven feet tall and play in the
NBA for five years as a backup and make like
twenty million dollars, but you're seven feet you know, for
the rest of your life, or just stay as you are.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
M I'd take the twenty million dollars. Yeah, I'd live
with being seven feet The discomfort in cars, planes, things
like that, and this is shopping.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
I know you got twenty millions to you custom clothes.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, what about I mean, what if you're like seven
to five? That's that's different, Like do you like taco?
Fall is an example, Like a guy that didn't have
a long NBA career, made a couple of bucks, made
some money over in China too, so made a little
bit of money. But he's seven foot five and travel
is going to be difficult for him for the rest
(37:51):
of his natural life. Like that's yeah, seven to five
is tough. Seven foot I could probably get around with.
I'm six three. It's it's a big difference. I'd give you,
but it's it's right there.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I I seven foot, twenty million dollars seven to five,
I'd pass on it. Game two is tonight. Tickets are expensive,
though Knicks fans are all there and droves. That's because
the get in price for games three in game four
is outrageous, outrageous in New York City, PAULI, as of today,
what are the get in prices for game three? In
(38:22):
game four?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
For one ticket bad seat seventy two hundred for Game three?
It gets better or worse for Game four eights for
the worst seat in the house.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Can I tell you that some of these bad seats
that you're talking about are really bad, Like they're really bad,
Like they're not They're not only high, many of them
are obstructed view, like you're some of the ones I've
looked at from the Press Sex, which is also pretty
high up. You watch are mostly watching on a monitor,
the monitors right in front of you. It's kind of
lowered down. You get a half look at the floor.
It's very difficult to watch the game action in some
(38:56):
of these seats. The idea of paying seventy five hundred
dollars get in to watch Game three, that's wild to me.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah, but Game four eight thousand dollars, you're buying the
ability to stay for the rest of your life. I
was there. No one's gonna ask you. If you're a
Row four hundred or Row eight, they may ask you,
but you just say I was there forever.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, I mean, I guess I say no now. But
it's like use like the Goodwill Hunting reference, like being
at the game at the Carlton Fist game for the
Red Sox and you get the home run, like you
don't know what's gonna happen, Like if it's just a
run of the mill game. You're like, I paid seventy
five hundred bucks. S Thatt's a car. That's a new car.
I could have bought for something like that instead. But
if it turns out to be the greatest game in
NBA history, then short you can say that, yeah, Fritz.
(39:37):
And if you're a big Knicks fan and it's like
I was there for the one thirteen seventy nine loss
or whatever, if that goes really poorly, it's that much
worse that you spent all that money so your team get.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
The kind of up.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
It's like the Knicks fans that you know, you probably
thought three quarters into Game one of the Conference Finals
when they're down twenty two points in the fourth quarter, like, damn,
what did I pay for? I probably paid five grand
to get this good seat to this one game. But
I guess it all depends on how how the game
plays on. I thought Jalen Brunson had a good answer
to the question he was asked yesterday at Media Day.
(40:07):
People were telling Brunson what these get in prices were,
right around seventy five hundred dollars. He was asked what
he would pay seventy five hundred dollars to actually go
and see.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
There was a report that in the last row of
the garden their seats on sale for seventy five hundred dollars.
I'm curious what show would you pay seventy five hundred
dollars to go see.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
That's a good question. Alive Michael Jackson performance, That's a
good one.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
I think that's probably off the table at the moment.
But he's not gonna go see the theory. In theory,
I guess you can go and see that. I can't.
Is there anything you guys would pay seventy five hundred
dollars to go and see?
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Go ahead, Bally, If to get a ticket to cut
Game seven of the Cubs World Series, I.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Would have paid that. Yeah, because of the drought once
in a lifetime.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I might have felt the same way about the Red
Sox in Game four if I had the money and
could afford it. Yeah, maybe I thought that.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, Fritzy, if I knew they were gonna win the
Bronco Packer of Broncos first Super Bowl with the LA
beating four Super Bowl thirty two in San Diego, I
would have dropped a few thousand dollars to be there
for their very first win.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Dylan, anything for you. It would probably be a musical
act that's not around anymore. And what about you, Marvin
u com Final four. Well, somebody's gonna payeventy five hundred
dollars or more six figures to get into these games anyway. Guys,
great to be here, great to be back. Enjoyed it.
See you guys in six years, seven
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