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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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(00:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
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Have you changed your opinion about the Ravens and or

(01:06):
Chargers following last night, So you can give me the
poll question for the final hour of the program.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
If you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Let's clean up a couple of things here. Dan Dan
Hurley's sideline behavior during game.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Is well, I guess I should say court side, but
whatever good for his team or self defeating? Right now,
eighty percent say it's self defeating. A little bit of
recency bias.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, he got teed up and it costume the game.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
I do appreciate him saying it wasn't my technical that
cost the game. Was all those crappy calls. That's what
costs of the game. Here is the Yukon head coach after
the loss to Memphis in Maui.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
That over the back hall at that point of the game,
there was no attempt to block out. There was a
player on Memphis that made up a half assed effort
to rebound that basketball, and Liam McNeely high pointed that
ren for that call to be made at that point
in the game was a complete joke, all right. And

(02:05):
then for me, I don't know what happened. I might
have lost my balance by the absurdity of the call,
or maybe I tripped, but if I made that call
at that point, I would have ignored the fact that
I was on my back. If I made that call,
I would have ignored that. I would have ignored that.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yes see, I'm not really sure I'm following what the
whole falling on my back, lost my balance thing means.
This is like the third or fourth time I've heard
that clip I was. I'm still no closer to understanding
exactly what it is that means.

Speaker 7 (02:39):
Yukon apologist Marvin So when the call was made, Dan
Hurley falls to the ground, and I think he trips
over one of his assistant coaches when the call was made.
So that's like he was on the floor. Oh yeah,
and then he got up and proceeded to start cursing
at the rest.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
I would never say that I fell when I disagreed
with the call, but maybe.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I did that.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Actually, that's the craziest he sounded. I don't mind his.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Face isn't like him, you you, I don't mind that,
This though, is terrifying.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Doesn't it sound like Bob Ross as he's painting something here?

Speaker 8 (03:15):
Give me?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Can you give me a little pocket squirrel? A little
bit more?

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Vandyke Brown that over the back hall at that point
of the game. Yeah, there was no attempt to block out.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I like pastels I do.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
What a happy little tree right here, landscaping. I love it,
the sunsetting behind it.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
All right, what a lovely day.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
We'll get two more phone calls coming up. He's Sean Sulisbury,
Are good, buddy, the former quarterback host of the Sean
Sulisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston. What'd
you take away from last night's game.

Speaker 9 (03:46):
That had Baltimore still elite? And then I think Dan
and the Chargers will get people problems because they're physical
and it's a harball team.

Speaker 10 (03:56):
I just don't think they're explosive enough. But Baltimore Dan.

Speaker 9 (03:59):
I've contended the last couple of years, and now adding
Derrick Henry to this mix, I think the toughest team
in the on the planet to game plan for going
into a week if you're a defensive coordinator, is of
Baltimore Ravens. And if you watch Lamar Dan, haven't you
seen almost I don't want to say a transformation, but
it feels to me like he's doing more from the

(04:20):
pocket and inside that inside the tackles as opposed to
bailing early, which I think has sustained and been better
for him. The numbers weren't dotty, but he's protecting the football.
And then you got that big, you know, an outside
linebacker playing running back. I think they're the most difficult
to game plan with and if they can get through January.
This is a February team, but we'll see if they
can handle January, which hasn't been their friend the last

(04:42):
few years.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
But I'm wondering who has Does anybody have more pressure
on them than Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 8 (04:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
This season, you know, going into the playoffs, I can
do Kyle Shanahan. I can do Mahomes a three peat.
I don't know who else would be in the mix.

Speaker 9 (04:58):
Well Mahomes, I could tell you Mahome. For Mahomes, it's
just his pressure is is he going to be number
twelve in New England?

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Right?

Speaker 9 (05:05):
And that's what we're starting to talk about with Kyle Shanahan.
It's can you call plays then get your team to
expand their bandwidth and execute in February late January February.

Speaker 10 (05:18):
I'll tell you another name you.

Speaker 9 (05:19):
Can throw in there, and I'll get back to Lamar
is Josh Allen and he has said this year, Dan,
I don't know about you, but I have them falling
off a little bit, and he has elevated his play,
which may have taken some of the pressure on well
if Josh doesn't win. But there's that category of the Prescotts,
the Allens, the Lamar Jacksons who have been in there
in January, but I haven't got to February. So I

(05:39):
think there's there's a there's a bunch of them in
the team picture. And back to Lamar now, Dan, I
want to take another level with the pressure. Think if
Lamar Jackson wins the Super Bowl and goes on and
wins this MVP where he's one of the favorites along
with Alan and Jared Goff, Dan, that'd be three MVPs
in six years and a Super Bowl championship. Now we've

(06:00):
done it for running back scale fairs Terrell Davis, who
have dominated their sport for five or six seven years.
Doesn't that automatically put him in Hall of Fame talk already?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (06:10):
Think about that.

Speaker 9 (06:11):
I mean, I know that's a long ways away, but
that's where we are with this cat, and he's playing
great football, but I think he's at the top of
the list because it'll help validate all those MVPs.

Speaker 10 (06:21):
It's as high as anything for him.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, I think what we're doing to Lamar is what
we did to the Joker and what we did he honest,
We're like, right, we can't give you another MVP unless
you're going to win a title. Well, they won titles.
Nobody will argue if you give them another MVP. Lamar knows, Hey,
I'm great in the regular season. I have to I
have to win a championship just to validate. We did

(06:45):
this with farv, we did it with Rogers, we did
it with Peyton. We wanted them to win a championship.

Speaker 10 (06:52):
Isn't an amazing dam with that?

Speaker 9 (06:54):
Think about Marino. You and I were watched him and
the best and I mean the best. Maybe he's the
best thrower of the football probably ever. And there's always
the bud at the end of it, which there shouldn't be,
but there is. And Lamar, You're exactly right. And the
more he continues to excel as an MVP, the more
pressure falls on his shoulders to get the February And now, Dan,
it's not just getting to that game, it's winning it

(07:16):
because if he gets there and doesn't win it. What
is the first thing we're gonna say, Ah, too much high,
too much pressure, can't quite do it, which is unfair,
But then again, it's not unfair depending on what kind
of performance he has in that game. But you're exactly right,
and Giannis and Joke go get their thing and it's
time for Lamar to do his if don't, I don't
think it needs validation. But in the way we judge
players at that position, winsday losses and super Bowl championships

(07:40):
are a quarterbacks that we never look at the left
tack and say, how many Super Bowls did you win?
While you got to the Hall of Fame quarterback? We
do no doubt the a lot of pressure on him,
and no doubt the coach.

Speaker 10 (07:49):
It's Kyle Shanahan. It's not even close.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I have bought into the Chargers before and paid the price.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I can't can't. I still can't buy.

Speaker 8 (07:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I love what Hardball does. He's trying to make them
Michigan the Michigan of the NFL. I'm just not sure,
just not sure. What about you, Dan?

Speaker 9 (08:08):
I hate to say this as much I like Jim
and I like that physically you know, it's weird. It's
it's strange because we know you can't be a finesse
team and win a super Bowl if you're not physical.
But if you're just physical and give body blows the
whole time, we need you to have a little bit
of finesse love too. Where I just don't think there's
enough weapons. That's right about the time you say, man,
it'd be great if Keenan Allen was still there, right,

(08:29):
or you could get a hunter Henry healthy. I just
don't think they do. And I don't either now, Dan.
I think the last time you bought in the Chargers
is when I played for the Chargers. I mean, I
know you put a lot of Moody on our super Bowl.
They got a little bit better chance with that guy
at quarterback. But the truth is, I think they're a
team that goes in and makes you work to win.
I just don't think there's enough weapons defense. They fly around,

(08:51):
but I don't think you can be the three yards
in a cloud and dust.

Speaker 10 (08:54):
They were just so superium.

Speaker 9 (08:55):
Think about what McCarthy did at Michigan, made a nut
twenty and twenty two, didn't turn the ball over. This
team's not explosive enough right now to win a Super Bowl.
Let's see what happens with that over the next year
or two playoffs. Yes, but they'll be in early out
because there's not enough explosiveness.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Hey, Sean Saulsbury, former USC NFL, CFL legend, speaking of USC,
let me let me hear your analysis of this. What
do you expect to happen with your alma mater against
Notre Dame?

Speaker 10 (09:23):
Not much?

Speaker 9 (09:24):
Can I go with the history of it that we
have a lot of problem, Hey, one hundred years great rivalry.
Think about all the I think, Dan, there's what is
there like eighteen high or not seventeen heismans among the
two they have? You know, all the NFL players in truth,
I know if you're Lincoln Riley, and I don't know
the inside of how dangerous, what kind of danger?

Speaker 10 (09:47):
How hot the seed is?

Speaker 8 (09:48):
Dan?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I know this.

Speaker 9 (09:49):
If it's a hot speed and you don't beat you
Stla and Notre Dame, you might as well grab an
apple in a roadmap to take your ass out because
you've got no shot to keep it. Now you beat
those two, there's that temptation to hang on the thing
that continues to baffle me. We're just not physical enough
to continue to and get enough place to continue to
play the teams like this, And I know Notre Dame's

(10:10):
had their ups and downs, but they're a far better
team that wear We're far faster, more team speed. But
that doesn't get you anything but a pat on the
back and another loss. I like Notre Dame in the
game if I'm picking it straight up. But it's a
chance for I don't want to say save their season,
but it's a chance for the Trojans to at least
go into the offseason thinking, Okay, what do we do next?
But dan until they I spend a lot of time weekly.

(10:32):
I meet with Bruce Matthews, the all time great at line,
and we constantly talk about over the last handfull of years,
and I talked to a lot of former players, the
thing that try, all the pretty stuff that goes on
with nil and collective and offenses that spread out in Lincoln,
who's a brilliant play caller with all that? You know,
what they miss the most, speaking of three yards in
a cloud of dust, is they want student body or

(10:54):
they want to dominate the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 10 (10:56):
And until we do that.

Speaker 9 (10:57):
At Southern cal on both sides of the ball will
not consistently beat good teams. You had a football player
Jessey and Cayleb Williams, they couldn't beat anybody because you
had to score forty five and then give up forty
eight and tell that consistency there, which baffles me. That
we can't get a defense to get stops and they
make too many mistakes on offense. Physicality is a big
problem for them. It doesn't get fixed. Lincoln Riley will

(11:19):
be coaching somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
CJ.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Stroud has regressed a little bit here, as you know,
playing the position when defenses get a book on you,
what you do well, and then they try to force
you to do, you know, take you out of your
comfort zone. I don't know if it's something as simple
as that. I know everybody has injuries, but you know,
Tank Dell really seems to be the guy. When he plays,
they win. But what do you see that CJ. Stroud

(11:44):
is not doing this year that he did last year.

Speaker 10 (11:46):
Yeah, Dan, I'm so glad you asked that.

Speaker 9 (11:48):
In my head, I was frustrated money then I woke
up Tuesday and I'm a Raider fan too.

Speaker 10 (11:51):
Think what a screwed up season.

Speaker 9 (11:53):
I'm a Raider fan, a Trojan fan, and I'm locally
here in Houston, so right now I got to get
my focus on Thanksgiving. I woke up Monday irritated, and
then I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 10 (12:03):
This morning.

Speaker 9 (12:03):
I woke up and I'm thinking, Okay, the layers to
this team. Yes, Drowd has regress, and I think part
of it's the collateral damage and the constant hits where
your eyes Dan go from seeing the coverage to feel
in the rush, to now see in the rush and
feel in the coverage, and that you can't succeed that way.
He is a great player with great his mid level throw,

(12:25):
everything he does, he's got a chance to be special.
But he's got to get out of that mode and
you've got to get the trust back to back. The
problem is, how do you trust five guys up front
where the guy who's supposed to be the best tackle
or one of the three or four best in the
league jumps off sides like a seven year old in
this first Pop Warner game every frigging week. And when
you continue to take the cumulative hits, eventually the human

(12:46):
nature is you're going to start doing things different.

Speaker 10 (12:48):
Ball's gonna come out premature.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
And the one thing s Croud's doing different this year, Dan,
he's missing the easy stuff.

Speaker 10 (12:54):
I always say the best quarterbacks.

Speaker 9 (12:56):
Manning Breeze, Brady Warren Moon of all time made the
ordinary play look ordinary. We're not making the ordinary play
here look ordinary and extraordinary. You can't live there, even
mahomes with all the off schedule stuff with Andy Reid,
what do they do? Dan hit screams, hit shallow crosses,
hit flat routes on third and three, Kelsey on a

(13:17):
bangoff option route to sit in the hole. And it's
right now. DJ's missing throws. Whether it's I know he's
not going to point the finger. He has not played
as well, and Bobby's flowing. It's almost like with mixing
and with the injuries and with their success last year,
they're playing not to lose. They've lost them aggressive missing
so as Stroud, So he has taken a step back
mechanics you deal with in the offseason. He has got

(13:38):
to get back into the simple stuff of making the
ordinary play. That being said, until they do stuff up
front with them pre snap ten least, all the stuff
that makes you go nut on a football team that
gives you no shot to the stain success. They be
one good team, Buffalo, one good team. Other than that,
every win's been a team Stub five hundred and every

(13:59):
other law has been against the playoff caliber team.

Speaker 10 (14:02):
So they got a lot to do.

Speaker 9 (14:03):
Dan, he's going to be a great player, but he's
taking a step back. And I think it's a cumulative
of a lot of things. And this team has not
handled success as well as they handled failure going into
last year as a three win team and here they
are a team that was supposed to be a super
Bowl type team and they're playing nothing like it.

Speaker 10 (14:18):
They're going to be an easy out if they don't get.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
This fixed final thirty seconds, I'll give you the Lions
or the field in the NFC to.

Speaker 10 (14:25):
Give me the Lions. I picked him to go to
the Super Bowl in August.

Speaker 9 (14:28):
I'm not backing off at best play caller not named
Andy Reid and football, and if he's got his foot
on the throat, he'll make sure he twisted. And golf
deserves to have MVP mentioned. I'll take the Lions.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Happy Thanksgiving. Great to see you again, thank you, bud.

Speaker 10 (14:40):
It, but happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Thanks man at Sean Salisbury, former NFL usc quarterback and
morning host of the Sean Salisbury Show in Sports Talk
seven to ninety in Houston. We got Chris Sims from
Football Night in America waiting in the wings. We'll get
to him. Your phone calls as well. We're back after this.

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Speaker 2 (15:09):
According to DraftKings, Josh Allen is still your leading candidate
for the MVP. Then it's Lamar Jackson, Sakwan Barkley, Jared Goff. Yeah,
they were trying to shoehorn Mahomes in there, and yes,
you know, eventually he could be the MVP, but the
MVP of the Super Bowl, but he hasn't been great
during the regular season.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
And it's weird. Are they bored?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Are they kind of positioning themselves to get into these
tight games? And then what do they do when they're
I don't know how much of this is deliberate, but
it just feels like I think eight of ten of
their games have come down to a single possession, a
one score game. It just feels like it's a little
too close for comfort and could their luck run out

(15:53):
this year? They seem more vulnerable this year than they
did last year, but then last year they won the
Super Bowl's Chris Pro Football Talk Live co host NBC
Football Night America analyst, former NFL quarterback, How vulnerable are
the Chiefs this year?

Speaker 8 (16:09):
I think they're more vulnerable than last year in some ways, right.
I mean, their record was worse last year. At this point,
we were having some of the same questions, right, so
it was the same type of stuff. But I think
the difference this year is there's two things. The defense
is not as good as last year. I've been trying
to tell people that for the last few weeks on
my podcast and things like that. To go. You don't

(16:31):
see as many playmaking, chaos mess the play up type
plays from people in the front seven, Chris Jones, Nick Bolden, whoever.
It may be the biggest thing, Dan is there's no
lagarious sneam right. Last year they had maybe two of
the three top corners in football on the same team,
so they could have go, hey, you guys, get on

(16:51):
an island and we'll do whatever we want with the
nine other guys. The other aspect of is injuries on
the offensive side of the ball, and this time last
year Rashi Rice starting to go trend upwards and go ooh,
he could be a guy here for the future. I
don't see anybody like that in their offense right now
where I go, oh, this guy, watch out. I think

(17:11):
Xavier Worthy is far off from that. And really, Dan,
forty years of like football intuition, I would go, there's
no way they're going to go to the super Bowl
and win the super Bowl this year, except the fact
that they kind of did this last year and had
the horrible Christmas Day game. And it's the only thing
that makes me hesitate saying it. But yeah, my overall

(17:33):
body of football life wants to say, no, they're not
going to do this, Dan.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
They are vulnerable And I said this earlier in the show.
They're vulnerable until the final two minutes when Mahomes has
the ball, and then you're vulnerable.

Speaker 8 (17:45):
Well, they have a great cutch just about them, and
because of their super Bowl wins and so many other
big wins. They just what's pressure after you've won the
super Bowl the way they have a few times? Right?

Speaker 11 (17:58):
Oh, No, regular season game number eleven. Oh no, we're
down to Carolina. Who that's pressure. So they're not going
to buckle under any of that. And yeah, right now,
they kind of play a brand of football. And I
talked to other coaches in football about this.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
Just keep it close, keep it close, and give fifteen
the ball late in the game, and you're gonna lose.
And that's what scares everybody in the NFL. Right now.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Belichick was on the Manning Cast and he says so
many things almost under his breath. He doesn't have any
big proclamations, any big pronouncements. He's just talking about it's
kind of meaningless to have a spy on Lamar Jackson
because the spy is not as athletic as Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
So why bother.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I Mean, it's really simple when you think about it, like, oh,
we're going to spy him. Well, if the spy can't
stop Lamar Jackson, why have a spy on Lamar Jackson?

Speaker 8 (18:51):
Right well, you got to have the right personnel. Now,
I'll say to Bill Belichick and counterpoint that, right, we
just saw the week before Lamar Jackson hen't scramble or
run or do anything against the Pittsburgh Steelers. He had
a few like design quarterback runs off the edge where
he got some yardage, certainly, but he couldn't he couldn't
leave the pocket and make those magic Lamar plays. Why

(19:13):
was that one? They know how to play him in
russ him. But to to Belichick's point, they have a
guy and Patrick Kleen who is really fast and explosive
to oh, I'm gonna kind of spy him. As soon
as Lamar gets out of the pocket, I'm gonna be
all over him, and he's not gonna buy five more
seconds throw in the football. So, yeah, you gotta have
special personnel for the most part, but more times than not, yeah,

(19:35):
a lot of teams aren't gonna have that guy, and
you gotta just have guys that the underneath covers that
have eyes on him so they can rally and tackle
and get to them.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
It feels like Jim Harball needs a couple of years
to bring what he wants to bring to the Chargers.
You're seeing it. It's the embryonic stages. But it's almost
as if they feel like they've overachieved a little bit
in my opinion, because well, now my expectations weren't great
this year, just because I didn't think they had the weapons,
and I think he wants to have that Michigan feel

(20:03):
to the Chargers. But what is your takeaway from what
you've seen with the Chargers.

Speaker 8 (20:09):
I like the Chargers. I do, In fact, I really
enjoy watching their style of football play. But I think
you kind of hit on it. They're old school and
we're seeing this right now. The new thing in the
NFL is run the ball and play action. That's the
best offenses are doing that. That's the death of the
spread and all that. So yes, he's bringing that there.
I like everything about them. They're physical, they're tough, they

(20:32):
got a lot of the right pieces. They're just missing
what I always call like sizzle. Right. The meat and
potatoes are there, but they need a few more difference makers,
like you said, another splash receiver to go along the
group they probably need. They're gonna need to get a
running back that's big time if they want to play
that style. Probably another D lineman. Most people can't name
their D tackles, and their dns we know are coming

(20:53):
to the end of their career. But man, I think
he's laid the framework down. I understand what you're saying,
I think new energy of hardball people, people kind of
trying to figure out Greg Roman's new wrinkles. And then
of course what they're doing on defense has probably caught
some teams by surprise. But I think they're a playoff team,
and I think they're a playoff team that can win
a game. If they get in there. They could be
dangerous that way.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Harball reminds me of ted Lasso, like he's he's goofy.
Ted Lasso is a character created character. Harball is not
a character that's created. That's just Harball.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
It is. He's crazy in a good way, you know
he is, and he's all about football. His social skills
are different, definitely. I think God told the story before
he made me mad. Once when I went interviewed him
at the San Francisco forty nine ers. He didn't like
one of the questions I asked, and he dropped the
mic and said, tell your dad. I said hi and

(21:47):
walked away, And I called him a jerk for about
five years after that and all that, but you know,
as time goes by, you forgive. And I was around
him a few times and I feel like he was
aware of that. He's tried to be core Joel. But
he is a pretty damn good guy. He just football.
I got a chance to hang out with him at
the super Bowl in the hotel for a little while,
and he couldn't have been better to my family and

(22:09):
my mom and my aunt and all that. But he
can't not talk football. Yeah, there's not a lot of
like other you know, roads of conversation.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah, but you didn't call him. You didn't call him
a jerk to his face though, No, No, I.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
Didn't call him a jerk to his but I called
it on camera, you know, and I wrote it against
him for a little while, so I'm sure he heard
some of that at some point.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Do you think you could take Jim Harbaugh? Yes?

Speaker 8 (22:33):
I do right now? It is prime. I don't know
about that, and it's prime. That had been something for sure.
He was a tough sob. How do you live?

Speaker 3 (22:42):
How do you?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't know what to make out about this? John
Gruden maybe coaching again, would the Jets be interested? And
you know how these things get started. Somebody will say, hey,
speculation or rumor or innuendo. Then it becomes sort of
a report.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Ish.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I don't know if you in Florio and Pro Football
Talk have spoken about Gruden coming back and could you
see him maybe with the Jets.

Speaker 8 (23:05):
I we have not spoke about it. I've heard some
of those rumors. I haven't heard any of those rumors
from people that I am really close with in the NFL. Dan,
That's where I would go with that. And the other
thing too, like, I mean, come on, what if the
Jets want to cause those problems and now have people
talking about John Gruden and the issues that go along

(23:27):
with that. There's a lot of good candidates out there
right now. If I'm the New York Jets, I am
calling Mike Vrabel. Mike Rabel the Giants or the Jets.
If the Giants job comes open, is where I start.
Mike Rabel's made for New York. He's Bill Parcells junior,
and he will get that organization back on track. That
would be my number one guy.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, I just wonder.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I had Albert breerro on last hour and we were speculating,
like what is the best opening or potential opening.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
I know Chicago's not open.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I still just love that possibility because of that quarterback,
and I think you have some pieces in place there
they should be better. Now you're playing in the toughest division,
and I don't know what's happened to Trevor Lawrence. You
could speak to that better than I can. From a
quarterbacking perspective. I mean, I don't know if he just
lost confidence or like, where is he? Is he a

(24:19):
franchise quarterback? Is he a top ten quarterback?

Speaker 8 (24:22):
He's you know, I would say right now probably not. No,
he's not a top ten quarterback. He's not that he's
on the outside looking in, but a guy that like
has the talent and potential to be there. We've seen
moments of it. That's where like, you're not gonna I'm
not gonna give up by Trevor Lawrence. You know, we
can't forget he's been a part of some bad situations.
We can't forget two years ago he brought a team

(24:43):
back from twenty seven to nothing in a wildcard game
and then had the Chiefs on the ropes in the
AFC Divisional game. So he's shown us extended periods of time. Now, yeah,
there's other things there that are not great supporting him,
and he has definitely gotten to some bad habits. There's
no doubt about that. Dan You're right about that. Chicago
is the to your job. To me, Chicago's got a
lot of young talent and that quarterback. I know it's

(25:04):
been a little all over the place, but he does
things that make my eyes pop out of my head
times where I'm like, oh my gosh, that throw, that move,
that run was insanity and the membranity. That would be
the job I want. And if I was Ben Johnson,
I'd be looking at Chicago Hart.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
He's Chris Sim's Pro Football Talk Live co host and
contributor to Football Night in America. Give me this scenario
how Saquon can win the MVP. He does what he
did the other night, like three more times.

Speaker 8 (25:33):
That good enough for you. I mean, he's a freak show.
This is why football is so brutal. Saquon Barkley's a
first ballot Hall of Famer type talent and he's been
on a crap team his whole career and he's never
gotten the show what he can really do. And now
he's with a team that can show can show us
all and he's special. He continues to do that. He
flirts with two thousand, right, the Eagles are the number

(25:57):
one seed. Lamar is the guy right now to me,
But Sakuan and Josh Allen are not far behind.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I've been on the Josh Allen bandwagon for a while.
I just and it almost feels like there's less pressure
on him. Yeah, because all they don't have stuff on Diggs.
They had all the injuries defense, you know, and and
but he has played really, really well. It's just his game.
His season comes down to what happens against Kansas City.

(26:25):
Lamar's season comes down to what happens against Kansas City.
And I did bring this up earlier. Who has more
pressure on them this year? If I said Patrick Mahomes three,
Pete Kyle Shanahan winning a Super Bowl or Lamar Jackson
going to a Super Bowl?

Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah, I hear you there. I think it's Lamar I do.
I mean, I'm not trying to take away or take
off the pressure of the other two guys, But to me,
Lamar and Josh Allen, I think those two guys have
more pressure on them than anybody in football. Josh Allen,
as you said at first off, is a freak show.
He's one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen in
our lives. The team now is finally they're like, this

(27:07):
is different. Let me just say when they play Kansas
City next time, it's the I'm a betting man, I'm
gonna take Buffalo. I will Buffalo is a different team
than the year's past. Their O line gives Kansas City issues.
They got enough heat at receiver now to where oh
you want to play man de man watch out and
the defense has some size. Lamar, you're right about that.

(27:28):
I mean, of course he's got pressure there. He's got
what two playoff wins in his career, and we're talking
about one of the most talented guys ever. So I
think it's those two guys that have the most pressure.
They've been playing phenomenal football. That's for sure.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Great to talk to you, so always, thanks for joining us.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and the family, and thanks Dan.
You know, next time you stop in at your local dispensary,
if you want to stop into the studio, we'd love
to have you.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
All right, Well, I'll let you know this gentry move
closer to me so I don't go up that way
as much anymore. So sorry about that, but happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Wait you you're such a good customer. The dispensary move
closer to you.

Speaker 8 (28:04):
I hope that's why they get it. They were probably like, damn,
this guy spends so much money, let's open up the
store there.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Does your dad go to the dispensary?

Speaker 8 (28:13):
No, he does not know, he does not. He's he
makes fun of me for going to the dispensary so much.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Does he understand it?

Speaker 8 (28:20):
He does. He does understand it totally. I mean, yes,
he's he's, you know, my dad, so of course he
understands it.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Thank you, Bud.

Speaker 8 (28:28):
All right, man, be good.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
And that's Chris Sim's Pro Football Talk Live co host
in Football Night in America. Yeah, there's a dispensary not
very far from here. Chris would come up to dispensary
to get his goods and then sometimes he would stop
him the dispensary. That'd be a nickname for something like
a John Stockton. He's the dispensary. Yeah, he just hand

(28:51):
it out and and out of sist. Here you go,
Landry in Louisiana, High Landry, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (29:00):
Well, I doun four or five and ten pounds. I
have a question.

Speaker 13 (29:08):
Who do you want for the Super Bowl?

Speaker 8 (29:10):
Who do I.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Want for the Super Bowl? Well, Landry let me ask you,
who do you want.

Speaker 12 (29:15):
I won't say a Kansas City case again city short lines.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Well, I think that would be what a smart man
would say that Kansas City versus the Lions absolutely be
a nice matchup. I think having the lines in the
super Bowl would be sort of mind bending because as
long as I've been covering and watching and being a
fan of football, if you said the Lions are going
to be in the super Bowl in your lifetime, I'd

(29:41):
be like, gosh, I'm gonna have to live a long life.
Amy in Michigan, Hi, Amy, what's on your mind today?

Speaker 12 (29:48):
Hi Dan?

Speaker 8 (29:49):
How are you doing?

Speaker 12 (29:49):
I love you guys. Well, thanks Amy, No, it's Thanksgiving.
The Bears the Lions. I was at the nineteen eighty
Bear's Lions game that went into overtime, and I'll never
forget it. Everybody was happy, Barry Walter, things were great.

(30:10):
And then the kickoff for the overtime. I had really
good seats and I got so quiet. You could hear
the pads clicking as Dave Williams ran by you with
the people following him. It was terrible.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, went into overtime and that's the that was the
quickest game in NFL history, may the ending, I should
say uh in overtime. Dave Williams Mark in Washington, Hi Mark,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 8 (30:41):
Hey? Dar?

Speaker 14 (30:42):
A third time, long time, sixth one and a stagnant
to forty. Just a quick idea for some merchandise. Can
we please get some Darren Patrick Show bobbleheads?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Oh Seaton, do we have DP Show bibbleheads? No?

Speaker 15 (31:02):
No, we don't.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Can we get them? We can?

Speaker 14 (31:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah, you hate bobbleheads? I do, so we never.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Oh well, I know, look behind you, guys, like I
have one hundred bibbleheads back there. You do well. I
just I've had bobbleheads when I was at the mother
Ship and it felt like they all kind of look
the same, and I just thought, I don't know, I mean,
they could have made me look like Rinaldo. That would
have been nice, you know, even Dwayne Wade's statue. I

(31:32):
would have taken that just because it looked different. And
then I think I started to look like George w.
Bush a little bit in my bibblehead. So yeah, I
guess we could look at it and see if you're
interested in my bobblehead. Let me see. Dennis in Saint Pete. Hi, Dennis,
what's on your mind today?

Speaker 13 (31:53):
That's me?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Hey, oh.

Speaker 13 (31:57):
Dad, Bob one forty five. I had a different idea,
so Tom Brady. You know ex analyzers that pay a
hundreds millions of dollars to do this, So why not
I Aaron Rodgers at the quarterback coach.

Speaker 14 (32:18):
Jud's as a quarterback coach.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
The connection is not very good, Dennis. I'm not sure
if you're under a waterfall there. But I don't see
Rogers coaching. I don't know if I even see him
in the media, certainly not in sports media.

Speaker 16 (32:31):
But yeah, Paul life coaching, not coaching.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Oh life coaching. He's already trying to maybe.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
A podcaster, Yeah, yeah, podcaster. Everybody's a podcaster. Hey, I
want to be a podcaster. And I always say, okay,
tell me what your pitch is. Well, what do you
mean don't you just talk?

Speaker 17 (32:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
It helps if you have a little direction there. If
what is your podcast?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
I don't know. I just figured i'd talk sports, yea, yeah,
that's not the way to go about it.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Yes, Marvin, it's the new you know, in the previous generation,
when you were funny to your friends.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Oh man, you should you stand up.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
No, you shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
Just because you make your friends laugh, yeah, doesn't mean
you can go out a bunch of strangers.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Hey, you were in the school play. You should be
an actor. Uh No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
All right, let me take a break. Last call for
phone Calls, What we learn, what's in store tomorrow? Try
to accomplish all of that.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern
six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Last Call for phone Calls?

Speaker 8 (33:41):
What we learn?

Speaker 2 (33:41):
What's in store tomorrow? Fritzy goes, have you seen the
new Movado commercial? I go no, He goes, you got
to you got to go. Forty seven seconds he and
I go, okay, send it to me.

Speaker 18 (33:54):
I usually don't tape commercials to play back over and
over again.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
So he sends me the Movado the Watch commercial, and
forty seven seconds later it's Jessica Alba and I said, okay,
and Julianne Moore. Yeah, I think is Charlie's. Then she's
got something. Maybe she does like brightling or something, but

(34:18):
it doesn't make me want to buy one of these things.
I go, I'm going to buy that for my wife
because Jessica Alba is wearing.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
It's weird like that.

Speaker 18 (34:24):
People probably are not more likely to buy the watch,
but just gotta stare at Jessica Alba in the Mavado commercial.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
But I know it gets attention on a product. But
I don't know if I've ever gone, you know, aside
from like shoes, Michael Jordan's shoes or something. But I
don't know if I've ever gone. You know what, I
think I want to have that camping gear because Bears
Grills or whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
His name, girl is using it. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I don't remember doing anything like that. You guys bought
anything where you go, I'm buying it because that person
anything come to my todd.

Speaker 18 (35:01):
Not so much a person, but like I'll go to
Jersey Mike's or a pizza place or up from food
will get me and.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
You know what, I can know, No, I'm talking about
a celebrity.

Speaker 18 (35:10):
I don't think any celebrities ever made me, especially if
it's some kind of high ends expensive thing that I
don't think I could even.

Speaker 16 (35:16):
I remember watching a few years ago Daniel Craig in
one of those James Bond movies and he had I
don't know the brand, may be Omega watch like man,
that looks cool. And I saw the commercial after the movie,
was like, I should go get me one of those.
I don't think I did, but I remember thinking, like.

Speaker 7 (35:30):
Marvin anything Michael Jordan's show sold, you'd buy, I'd ask.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, you'd ask Bridget Seaton you ever bought anything? Where
to celebrity endorse product?

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Probably a million?

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah? Really yeah?

Speaker 5 (35:47):
I mean, like you know, Bear grills, if he was
endorsing outdoor equipment. That kind of makes sense since he's
like a survival expert.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, but I still wouldn't. I wouldn't go. You know,
what's he uses that I'm going to use that? I
just I wouldn't.

Speaker 18 (36:02):
Yes, I think I was too young to shave, but
when I saw Joe Namathan Farah Foster for a Noxima,
I definitely wanted some shaving cream, even though I wasn't ready.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
To just fair fair Uh yeah, you can see how
I did with that time. Alrighty, alrighty, here we go,
uh Nate in Minneapolis.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Then we'll do this day in sports history. Hi, Nate?
What's on your mean?

Speaker 8 (36:22):
Hey?

Speaker 19 (36:22):
Good morning, guys. So you guys are talking about Rogers
and where he may or may not play next season,
and I had this major sense of deja vu, and
I suddenly realized Rogers is walking the same path as
another quarterback backing off guarantee. Yes, you'll end up in Minnesota. Yep,

(36:43):
that ain't happened. That that's not gonna happen. They have
JJ McCarthy there, They have JJ McCarthy. Oh, I just
got my Happy Gilmore, the assistant costume designer for Happy
Gilmore too. I'm reaching out to get your sizes, height,
weight suit, dress, shirt, T shirt, pants, shoes, hat, brands

(37:08):
that work well for him.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
That's exciting.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Okay, So I'm getting decked out here this day in
sports history, Paulie.

Speaker 16 (37:16):
The NHL was founded nineteen seventy seventy nineteen seventeen, the
Montreal Canadians, the Montreal Wanderers, Ottawa Centers, Toronto Arenas, Quebec Bulldogs.
We'll see Howard Cosell in eighty two called his last
boxing match. Does anybody remember who was in it?

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Randall tex com Loop correct.

Speaker 16 (37:35):
Barry Sanders nineteen ninety eight became only the second running
back in history to run for more than fifteen thousand yards.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I was there when this happened. Willie Flipper Anderson set
an NFL record three hundred and thirty six receiving yards
rams over the Saints. Fred Lynn first rookie to also
be named American League MVP. Freddie Lynn underrated nineteen seventy five.
Let me see Kurt in Illinois. Hi, Kurt, what's on
your mind today?

Speaker 15 (38:04):
Hey Dan, five eleven, two twenty. I'd like to make
a show suggestion. I'd like to hear Fertzi do his
Doctor Rivers impersonation promoting Osempic.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Okay, Doc, what do you think about zempic?

Speaker 17 (38:21):
I can't seem to lose the excess weight. I went
to my doctor. He prescribed to osempic. I lost forty
seven pounds in a week. I know you can't believe it.
I didn't tell anybody because I just wanted people to
think that they ate fruit and did jumping jacks. But
it turns out I gave myself to shop in the stomach.
I lost a lot of weight.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
It sounds like you're dying. Doc. You may need to
see a doc.

Speaker 17 (38:41):
I have emphysema.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Though it was one of the side effects.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And no, he didn't have emphysina and it is doc
and he has suffered some losses this year.

Speaker 17 (38:50):
It's gonna be all right, though. We're gonna turn it around.
Give me four quarters sometimes.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Over Dian in Texas. Hi, Brian, went's on your mind today?

Speaker 13 (38:57):
Hey?

Speaker 20 (38:58):
Good morning, Dan five tive. Yeah. As a long time
Texans fans in two thousand and two inaugural season, I
got my hopes up every year and my heart broken
every year. So my wife figured it'd be a great

(39:18):
idea to get tickets to Arrowhead Stadium this year. I've
never been over there, been to many home games, and
I guess they've jumped on that last year they jumped
on the Taylor Swift, Kelsey vandwagon.

Speaker 14 (39:31):
So they're all.

Speaker 20 (39:32):
Pumped up about going, and I'm going to go, and
I'm gonna, of course get my heart broken over there
in my in the Chiefs Stadium, which I you know,
cannot stand the Chiefs. But I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
make the most of it. But my question to you
guys is, I'm sure y'all have been over there? What
do I do over there? What's good to eat? Where

(39:53):
do I stay? What What what am I going to
do to pass the time and ease the pain, you know,
seeing my offense crumble.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I haven't stayed there, Marvin. Have you been Seaton's been
to Kansas City? Haven't you Kent City?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Game?

Speaker 14 (40:10):
I have?

Speaker 13 (40:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I really just pretty much went to Arrowhead though.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, I would say, have the barbecue.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
You can't go wrong. People are very nice, Yes, Paul.

Speaker 16 (40:21):
I've kicked it in a very lively area called the
Power and Light District.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Very fun. Yeah, power and Light that's in Kansas City,
very exciting.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, that's a spot. That's what we learned.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
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