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September 26, 2024 41 mins

Tonight is the final game for the Athletics in Oakland and Dan has an amazing promotional idea for the stadium on their final night in town. And author Wright Thompson stops by to discuss his book about the story of Emmett Till’s murder, “The Barn: The Secret History of a Murder in Mississippi.”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final Hour on this Thursday.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
We got football coming up tonight, the Giants at home
getting six against the Cowboys. How important is this game
for the Cowboys? Having lost two at home? Now you
have a division rival against the Giants. The Giants have
shown some signs of life here. They have a little
bit of a running game here, and Devin Singletary he

(00:27):
might be the guy that I would pick to score
the first touchdown tonight, just saying, but if the Cowboys
would lose this game, and if they would lose by
giving up one hundred and fifty yards rushing, now we
have an amber alert there in Dallas. But I'm looking
at some of the numbers here. According to DraftKings over
underpassing yards for Dak Prescott is two fifty seven, Daniel

(00:51):
Jones is two to one, Ceedee Lamb and Malik Neighbors.
That's what I'm really interested in because these are high
end wide receivers CD through that temper tantrum in the
end zone in the loss over the weekend. Malik Neighbors
is for real, like he might be a rookie, but
he's not a rookie, and I would go to him

(01:12):
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(01:57):
should give you your seat if you go to the
game and they say, hey, go pick your seat, I'm
going to and then when I leave, if you stay
for nine innings, they will assist you in taking your
seat home with you or just take him if you
want to, which is probably what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
But I was trying to be civilized.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Here so it doesn't get ugly with the Oakland a's
is they say goodbye to Oakland tonight and if you
show up that would be a great promotion. Show up
and get a seat, take a seat, literally, take a
seat a seat. And poll question for hour three is
going to be what we got a couple of them
up there right now? Who had the best year?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Right now? Shoheo tan.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
He's got thirty three percent of the vote, followed by
Scotty Scheffler a strong twenty eight, Caitlin Clark at twenty one,
Simone Biles at eleven, and Patrick Mahomes six percent of
the vote.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Not great.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, well he's graduated to the we take you for
granted now category.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, you're welcome, You're welcome. See.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I could make a case that Xander Shoffley has had
a similarly great year to Scotty Scheffler. I could make
a case Scotty had a better year, but Xander Schaffley
had a pretty spectacular year as well. I think Caitlyn
Clark living up to the hype and surpassing the hype.

(03:17):
And we saw that last night. She played well. They lost,
but you know, quite a season, a turnaround season for
her and the Indiana Fever and what she meant not
only to her city team teammates, but the league in general.
And hopefully there's fallout from that as we move forward
with the WNBA. But now you're down to the final

(03:38):
four and I'm certainly interested in the liberty versus the aces.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
Yes, Marvin, is this a two person race for all
Sports Illustrated sports Person of the Year between Shell Hay
and Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
They both lifted up their sports.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
We talk about MLB and WNBA like we've never spoken
about before.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I get the feeling now once again. I had a
problem with Sports Illustrated Sportsmen of the Year giving it
to Dion Sanders. They won four games. There was nothing
sportsman like to Dion's approach. I was disappointed. I was
embarrassed for that award. Now, if Dion wins ten games
and you wanted to give it to him, Okay, you

(04:18):
won four games. I mean it wasn't Mother Teresa on
the sidelines there. He had a great September. This is
a failing magazine media company and you want to get
some clicks there. And that's why I think my opinion
Caitlin Clark would win the sports Person of the Year.

(04:39):
But you know, it's such a great brand. They have
new management. I hope they're coming back to prominence relevance,
and I was involved with them for many years when
Rick Riley left. There's so many great people, great writers
down through the years, So hopefully they do have a
comeback there. But if I'm to get clicks, I'm gonna

(05:02):
get more clicks with Caitlin Clark for Sportsperson of the
Year than I will show Hao Tony. Now, I would
give it to show Hayo Tony. I just don't know
if they will all right. Eight seven seven three DP
show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle
at dp show. Also, Derek Rose quietly retired. There was
nothing quiet about his career when he first started won

(05:23):
an MVP is third year in and we thought that
he was the future. He was certainly a Jah Moran
type before John Morant. But and then we debated is
he a Hall of Famer? I don't think he is.
I think the college part of that that they vacated
those seasons at Memphis, and he did have a really

(05:46):
good start to his career. I think because he played
after he got injured. I think he got injured twice,
so it was a watered down version of him. Whether
you know, if he had stopped after five years because
of an injury, we might look at him differently. Grant Hill,
Gale Sayers, Trell Davis type situation there. But he did

(06:08):
win an MVP, and as Marvin pointed out, there's never
been an MVP that didn't go into the Hall of
Fame eventually. Yes, Marvin, you were going to say, well, Chris.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
Webber went to Michigan and those you know, Final four
appearances are vacated. Yeah, but he was a better pro. Correct,
But you were just saying Memphis is gonna hurt him.
I'm not even sure if it's all that important. Like
Chauncey Billups is going in the Hall of Fame, I
don't remember him to Colorado.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm talking about college.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
Oh no, me too. I'm just saying, well.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Chris Webber was a Hall of Famer as a NBA player, right,
Derek Rose was not. So if I take away Michigan
from Chris Webber, I still have a pro career that's
a lot better than Derreck Rose's.

Speaker 7 (06:49):
No, you're right, but I think the MVP helps.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
But you were saying Memphis might hurt, but I'm not
sure if Memphis isn't even it's not even.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well that his career at Memphis doesn't help, and it
would normally have helped where it'd be like, oh, you
got to championship game, correct, But yeah, we're taking that away.
Chris Webber, same thing, you know, that would have helped
his resume with what they did getting into a title game,
and you know what the Fab five meant. But I

(07:18):
don't know if you're supposed to disabowl any knowledge if
you're voting on something like that that hey, you can't
say anything about or you know, don't factor in what
he did. It's a college player, yes, Mark.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Yeah, I didn't see anything he did at Memphis since
they vacated it. It's almost like the men they tried
to do the Men in Black, you know, memory eraser,
I still remember what he did at Memphis. Okay, So
when they tried to vacate those awards, Okay, great, you're vacated.

Speaker 8 (07:42):
You know, whenever on the internet, on social media, they
always do the athlete. You could wave a magic wand
and remove an injury or make sure they were healthy
for the entire career. And it's always bo Jackson. Bo
Jackson's like emeritus, he's in one seed. But Dereck Rose
has to be on that list of man we were robbed,
and he was robbed clearly, but we were robbed. Chicago
sports fans everyboy.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, but I think that's a hometown biased.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
For me, loved watching him, but I never went, boy,
what could he have been? He was great, but I
mean I would say, obviously bo Jackson getting hurt, Grant
Hill far more than Derreck Rose. Grant Hill could have
been one of the all time greats. I truly believe
that Derek was just so much fun to watch. But

(08:28):
you know, I don't get caught up and go lament
boy what could have been with Derek Rose?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (08:32):
Point and Grant Hill. He was really good for about
five years, really good for five years. His last year
before he got injured the leg injuries, twenty six points,
six and a half rebounds, five and a half assists, steels, blocks,
He was.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Like all purpose, Yes he was, and people forget I
mean he was great at Duke. He had moments in
the NBA and then all of a sudden, you know,
and I don't know if it was misdiagnosed or how
it was handled with injury. He's there, but it's a
shame because what could have been for him. A couple
of phone calls Katie and Oxford. Hi, Katie, what's on
your mind today?

Speaker 9 (09:09):
Well, good morning, Dan and the boys five ten mid
one hundreds. Not the first time, but long time. As
I am a locker room og with no g's, I
have a bowling name for you, okay. I had the

(09:29):
privilege of bowling in the bowling capital of the United States, Milwaukee,
from junior leagues out to adults and even when a
televised tournament once. But the bowling names are huge, and
I wanted to share my influence on why he came

(09:53):
up with his name.

Speaker 10 (09:54):
It goes back to an.

Speaker 9 (09:55):
Old soap opera and of course my national league son
for winning Milwaukee Brewers, the Bold and.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
The Brutiful, all right, the boll instead of the bold
and the beautiful and the Brewtiful.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
All right?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Thank you, Katie. We'll take that under invicement. We just
need to form this bowling team and get in a
league as well. Yes, sedon uh, and just to be
clear Milwaukee is recognized as the bowling capital of the
United States, although where is the Bowling Hall of Fame?
Though that would be in Saint Louis. I believe, really,

(10:35):
I believe.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Detroit often referred to also as the bowling capital of
the United States. Some may even say the world Detroit, Michigan.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
So there's a.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Little bit, uh now, apparently, like you said, Saint Louis
is in there too.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Uh. I like a little territorial war here.

Speaker 11 (10:51):
Heck.

Speaker 12 (10:52):
Yeah, Jerome Bennett was a big bowler back in the
Detroit days growing up.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yes, he was. Thank you Todd, uh Tom and Cleveland.
Hi Tom? What's on your mind today?

Speaker 13 (11:04):
Hey Dan? How you doing today?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Good sir?

Speaker 13 (11:07):
Hey quick shout out to Fritzy guy is so funny.
I think you got to mix in a limerick maybe
every once a quarter something like that. But just wanted
to go back to last week. You were talking about
shohe Otani and fifty and fifty, and you were talking
about are there other comparable great games? Was this the
greatest game ever? And one thing I wanted to bring

(11:29):
up was back in the nineteen eighty one season, Gretzky
was chasing Maurice Richard's nineteen forty four record of fifty
goals in fifty games. On December thirtieth, Gretz went out
and scored five and one night to break the game
and just or break the record in just thirty nine games.

Speaker 10 (11:44):
Pretty good.

Speaker 13 (11:45):
I just wanted to share that.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Oh good, Yeah, I mean, I've taken any suggestions on this.
I was just trying to find something in baseball that
was relatable to show. Heyotani and I go back to
Ted Williams and when he batted four oh six and
have to play in the doubleheader did and ended up
batting four oh six. Jimmy and Indiana. Hi, Jimmy, what's
on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (12:08):
Good morning, DP. I'm a frequent caller six foot two hundred.
You were talking, well, first of all, I want to
say I listen to you guys every day. You always
make me smile, you make me laugh, You just put
me in a good mood for the rest of the day.
So thank you guys for that. It's really enjoyable. You

(12:29):
were talking about the left handed well, they're all left
hand betters, Ted Williams, Brett when and so Hey, do
you think they were all right eyed? Dominance and do
you think that gives them an advantage over the right
handed batter. And then number two, when you're trying to

(12:50):
determine between so Hey and Larsen for the greatest baseball performance,
it's really hard to determine that because they were both
just fantastic. How about categorizing it as the best offensive
production so Hey the best defensive production Larson.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, I don't like categorizing, and thank you, Jimmy, because
we do that, like with the NFL MVP, and then
there's the NFL Offensive Player.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Of the Year, who is rarely the MVP.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
It's always, Hey, we're going to give this to this guy,
and then Christian McCaffery is going to be the Offensive
Player of the year.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
But you know, as far as Don Larson threw a
perfect game in the World Series, that's the greatest performance,
singular performance. Probably it has to be in baseball history.
It's a perfect They call it a perfect game, and
it was a perfect game in the World Series. Sho
Hayes was great regular season game, getting into fifty to fifty, absolutely,

(13:52):
but Don Larson through a perfect game. Let me see
Jamison in Colorado, Hey, Jamison, it's on your mind.

Speaker 10 (14:02):
Add six foot right eye dominant. Obviously we have a
mess here on this college footballity and anil stuff, but
specifically to this UNLB quarterback. It sort of feels like
a lot of people are automatically believing his story. And
I'm wondering, does this open another door where players who

(14:24):
are unhappy for any reason can just make up a
story about not getting paid what they were promised. I mean,
he's claiming he has an agent, but they didn't get
this in writing.

Speaker 14 (14:34):
This is all verbal.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I don't think they can put it in writing, not
before he gets there. That's the problem. And you're right,
there's two sides to this. All I know is when
you ask for the other side, if they want to
come on and talk and then they say no, then
you try to get somebody else who can advance the story.
We did reach out to the quarterback and his side

(14:58):
didn't want to come on right now, we understand, So
we are trying to get the I guess, to the
core of this story here and find out, if you know,
can we tell who's telling the truth. And you're right,
but he could have just said, look, I'm going to transfer,
and he transfers. He doesn't have to say it's an IL.
He could just say, you know what I'm now it

(15:18):
could be an IL, but he doesn't have to tell
anybody that. And I know that it makes the you know,
the school escapegoat here. But he's going to take some
blame too that he's walking out on a top twenty
five team that's undefeated as well to go to a
higher bidder.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
So I don't know if anybody wins.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Here, but perception wise, it sounds like this is happening
a little bit more with players who go to a school.
They're promised, they get to the school, and then all
of a sudden, the university doesn't deliver. And as my
source said in the first hour, I read what he
said to me that UNLV wanted to play with the

(15:55):
big boys. They just didn't pay with the big boys.
That's the difference. You can spend twenty up to twenty
two million dollars on your collective in Ohio State pretty
much pushed the boundaries on that. Georgia doing the same thing. Alabama,
there's a you know, there's a handful of schools that
are able to pay that kind of money and then

(16:16):
you do this on the day when you get a
twenty seven million dollar payment to stay with the Mountain West.
Ironic coincidental, not a good look for you on LV
if you were supposed to pay this kid one hundred
thousand dollars? Do I think he was promised something?

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I do, now is it one hundred thousand? I don't know.
The assistant coach said, I never promised anybody anything. These
stories eventually come out, may take a while, but they
eventually come out. Then we find out exactly what happened.
We'll take a break here. More phone calls coming up
when we return. ESPN dot Com senior writer Right Thompson

(16:55):
has written another great book. It's a heavy book, and
he'll talk about that topic coming up right after this.

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Speaker 3 (17:15):
Oh, I don't know if we riled up a hornets
nest here. We were talking about bowling. Where is the
bowling capital of America? Seaton brought up Milwaukee. We also
threw in Detroit. I said, I think the Bowling Hall
of Fame is in Saint Louis, Missouri.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Seaton, you got an update for me? Boy? Do I
have an updates? Sorry? Dan? The Bowling Hall of Fame was.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
In Saint Louis, Missouri.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Was in Saint Louis, OH.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
It has since, as of twenty ten, relocated to Arlington, Texas,
where I believe it merged with another bowling Hall of Fame.
And now I think we've gone international. I think that
the off it was the Bowling Hall of Fame of
America or the Professional Bowlers of America Hall of Fame
that has merged with the International Bowler Bowlers of the World.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Okay, this is gone global. This time is gone global. Okay, yes, yeah, Dan.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
I've also heard from a lot of my people in
Milwaukee that it's the hot bet of bowling. It's the
bowling capital of America. They're saying because Milwaukee is such
a German city, has a lot of German influences. Kegling
was the forefather of bowling, and Milwaukee was the home
of Kegling.

Speaker 15 (18:33):
Is you know well there?

Speaker 8 (18:35):
Then there's people in Detroit a saying it's a hot
bed of bowling as well.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
But wasn't John Candy in a bowling league in.

Speaker 15 (18:44):
Milwaukee.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
There wasn't Kenosha Kickers.

Speaker 15 (18:48):
You mean from home alone?

Speaker 13 (18:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, okay, yeah, and home alone.

Speaker 15 (18:51):
He was in the box truck driving the mom home
and he's okay.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
So he came from Wisconsin to Chicago.

Speaker 15 (18:58):
Yeah, he was on his way back to Kenosha trip.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, with the care Okay.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
I believe that was a Polka band though polka.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I thought he was a kegler for some reason.

Speaker 15 (19:11):
He may have been. It's spare time, but he was
focused mostly on Polker.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Spare time.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, spare time got him. Okay, he's right.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Thompson new book The Barn, The Secret History of a
Murder in Mississippi, now available online wherever books are sold.
The Barn tells the story of Emmett Till, fourteen year
old African American boy killed in Mississippi in nineteen fifty
five after being accused of offending a white woman, and writes
investigation takes a deep dive into the case and cover

(19:40):
up that followed. Great to talk to you again, heavy topic,
but it's a wonderful story of how you tell it,
investigate it, and pay tribute to Emmett Till and his family.
When did you decide that you were going to take
a deep dive into a topic that's been around for many, many,
many decades.

Speaker 16 (20:01):
I was working on a sports story about Avery Bradley
from the Los Angeles Lakers, and he is from Mount Bayo, Mississippi,
and one of the witnesses, it turns out, in the
murder trial of the killers of m Mattil was last
name was Bradley, and so I started trying to find
out if they were related, and they weren't. But in

(20:22):
the process, someone said to me, do you know about
the Barn? And I said what Barn? And I got obsessed.
I mean before this was a personal quest for someone
trying to understand their home, long before there was a
magazine assignment or a book assignment. Because it started to
emerge to me that this barn and the way that

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it had been erased from the American story was a
kind of vessel for American history.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
I mean, it's you know, my.

Speaker 16 (20:55):
Book publicist always tells me I was supposed to make
comparisons so that people know if they want it, but
you know, I mean, it really is sort of the
intersection of like sapiens and devil in the White city.
I mean, it's one of those stories that has a
lot of threads that at the beginning you're going to wonder,
what does any of this have to do with this

(21:15):
barn and this murder, And by the end of it
you're not entirely sure why this isn't how you were
taught history in school.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Well, that's what I was wondering. They sort of this
is a nondescript barn. There's not a landmark there that
you know, it's not people can go to this, I'm guessing.
And your family's farm is what twenty miles from this barn,
so you you grew up not knowing that that was there.

Speaker 16 (21:40):
I mean our family farm is, I mean our headquarters
is exactly twenty three miles because I measured it and
I didn't know what existed. It just sits there, and
you know, it's somebody's barn. There's Christmas decorations and Johnson
nine point nine horsepower motor And luckily for me and
for activist and especially for the Till family, the guy

(22:04):
who owns the barn is a really nice guy and
so lets people, you know, lets people visit it, and
was very open to all of this, and I just
started going over and over again. And so I mean
it's funny in a way that you know, a Los
Angeles Lakers story turned into this, But I mean, it's

(22:25):
been four and a half years of my life trying
to tell the story of this murder. And more importantly,
there's some real heroes man, who are working to keep
memory alive in the face of a rasure. And like,
I don't want to get madelin about it, but I mean,
it's just a real honor to meet some of these folks.

(22:47):
Reverend Wheeler Parker from Chicago, who was emmittt Till's cousin,
best friend, next door neighbor, rode the train south with
him in nineteen fifty five, was in the house with
him the night that he was taking the kidnappers killers.
Pointed to flashlight and a gun in his face first,
and he is you know, he's a minister in Chicago

(23:08):
and has spent the rest of his life trying to
keep people from forgetting.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
I mean, so you know it, don't I don't.

Speaker 16 (23:15):
Again, I don't want to sound modeling, but like, it
really was the honor of a lifetime to just get
to meet some of these I mean, great Americans.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
I don't know another way to put it.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
What do you want to come out of this?

Speaker 16 (23:31):
I would like I would like people to read a
story that is entertaining and informative. Sure, but at the
end of it, because the book focuses on thirty six
square miles of the place where I'm from, I hope
that people are inspired to want to know about the

(23:51):
thirty six square miles around where they're from, or where
you know, or where they live, and to you know,
I'm a very proud, patriotic American, and I think it
is incumbent on those of us who believe in the
miracle and promise of the American experiment to always be

(24:12):
trying to make it better and to always be willing
to find, learn, internalize, and speak the truth about the
place where we're from and the place.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
That we love.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
We're talking to right Thompson's The new book is called
The Barn, available where you get your books. Have you
heard from athletes about this, then you know your investigative
work to tell the story?

Speaker 5 (24:39):
You know? I have?

Speaker 16 (24:40):
It was I guess it's not surprising to me, but
I didn't know the degree to which athletes like Lebron James,
for whom this story is central to his understanding of
American history. You know there in Matila just turned fourteen,
and I think you know it is it is sadly

(25:05):
very much a part of education in black American homes
to sit down and tell their children the story of
Emmettil and to tell their children the story of Trayvon
Martin and George Floyd and things that I never really
had to worry about. And so, you know it is,
this story is hugely important to many many American athletes

(25:29):
who uh, you know, I came to understand better through
this reporting, are not only expected to be great players,
but also thought and almost spiritual leaders for a community.
And so, you know, that was really it was really
interesting and sort of affirming to know that in addition

(25:51):
to being the second greatest basketball player who ever lived,
Lebron James is is a real student of American history
and in a really thoughtful, intellectual guy.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
What did it feel like when you walked in the barn?

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Boy, I've done a lot of interviews.

Speaker 16 (26:16):
That's the first person who's ever asked me that, you
know what, There was a and there's a real sense
of menace and one of the reasons that I wanted
to write a book not just about the history of
that barn, but of the land around it and excavate
the blood and the dirt is that, look, there's a

(26:37):
life force and energy there that is absolutely palpable. And
I know that sounds like hippy tippy stuff and I'm
supposed to be burning incense and all of that, and
I don't mean it that way.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
There's a real sense of menace.

Speaker 16 (26:50):
And everyone who's ever been out there that I've talked
to since is it too. And you know, the other
thing it did for me me was, you know, Mississippi
and America is covered in barns, collapse barns, barns that
are perfectly preserved. And the thing it did for me
was fundamentally impact how I moved through the world, because

(27:14):
every time I see a barn now anywhere, part of
me wonders what happened in that barn that I don't
know about.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
We're talking to right, Thompson. I'm so used to talking
to you about sports. Do you have anything on the
horizon sports wise, profile or just an overall story.

Speaker 16 (27:35):
Man, We got a lot of things going. I'm in
the process of doing a story to documentary about a
guy who's trying to catch the world's largest marlin. I
was just on a fishing boat in the Azores for
four days. It's a really hard job, Dan, and you know,
I mean, some people go cover wars in Iraq and

(27:56):
international poverty, but I have.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
The real.

Speaker 16 (28:01):
It was a really hard assignment to go on a
fishing boat in Paradise for four days. But somebody has
to do it. You know what a bunch of a
bunch of profiles kicking around. I mean, we'll hopefully be
back on to talk about them when they're when they're
sort of emerging, but you know, those are my favorite
things to do is to do deep dives into the
lives of athletes. I mean, one of the the coolest

(28:21):
parts of this job, frankly, is that you get to
try on other people's lives, whether it's Michael Jordan or
Caitlyn Clark, who who I've talked both of them I've
talked about on this program. I was just texting with
Caitlin because their season ended and was basically, you need
to take a vacation now, and so that's that's the
best part of my of my day. Job is really

(28:41):
trying to understand what it takes to be great and
what it costs, what.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
It surprises us.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
If I said you could go back and interview any
sports person no longer with us, who would it be?

Speaker 5 (28:55):
That's a.

Speaker 16 (28:58):
I mean this sounds like a cliche, but probably Mickey Mantle,
Joe DiMaggio or Babe Ruth. I mean probably Babe Ruth.
It's like Patients zero.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
You know.

Speaker 16 (29:11):
There's that great Jane Levy book about Mickey Mantle called
The Last Boy that I really love because it like
correctly places Mickey Mantle is the last star and hero
in a pre ironic America, and like, you know, there
just was a fundamentally different way people interacted with him
than say, Aaron Judge, And so I would love to

(29:35):
talk to a sober Mickey Mantle. You know, I've always
thought it was interesting that Mickey Mantle and Jerry Garcia
died so close to each other because they felt like
Rushmore faces of a very specific America, you know, and
like even though they had nothing to do with each other,
they felt really tied together, like existentially to me in
a way that actually would be a really good story

(29:56):
for someone is to write about the intersection of Jerry
Garcia and Mickey Mantle. Uh, you know but both addicts.
You know, Mickey got clean and Jerry didn't. Uh and
uh so No, I mean I would love and I
would love to go talk to Joe Dimajia. I mean,
I know you've read that famous gate to Lee's story,
but like Silent Season of a Hero where it has

(30:16):
that great scene where Marylyn they're on their honeymoon and
Marilyn Monroe gets invited to go from Japan where they're
hiding out, and you know, she loves being famous because
it's new, and he hates being famous because it's old.
And I think that's a pretty common story for athletes,
both of us interview now, is that you agree to
accept that before you understand what it takes from you.

(30:37):
And so she gets asked to go to Korea to
speak to soldiers, like a USO trip, And she comes
back and they're having the breakfast the next morning and
she's just gushing about the joy and she says, oh, Joe,
you've never heard such cheering. And he looks up for
and he looks up from his cheerios and just dead
eyes are in dead pans.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yes, I have yes, yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 16 (31:03):
And so I would love to go talk to Joe DiMaggio.
I love that gate to Lee's story. I love that
Richard ben Kramer Ted Williams story, and uh.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
You know, I mean that would be great. I mean,
let me ask you this, because who is the most.

Speaker 16 (31:20):
Iconic athlete who's no longer with us, who you intersected with, Like,
who's like, what's the story you have about one of
these guys, Who's a Mount Rushmore guy that you ended
up because of your place in the culture for so
long being next.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
To briefly Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Oh, I.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Well, he didn't speak back then, so I met him
at the ESPIS and talk to him and his wife.
I was there when he checked in the hospital for Parkinson's.
I was covering that they had fight night in Arizona
and I was the host and I ended him with
a ring that they were giving to him. And I

(32:04):
was there in Atlantic City from Mike Tyson fight when
Ali came in and it was Ali Boulaye and the entire,
the entire it's one of the greatest moment. I'm getting
goosebumps thinking about it. Just came he came in and
everybody realized it was Ali. Everybody in the building started

(32:25):
chanting this. And I was sitting with Danny Iello and
Matt Dillon, the actors, and I remember turning you, Danny Iello,
and I said, We'll never experience something like this again.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
And he couldn't even speak.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
He was like, like, you were frozen, dumbfounded because you
really realized what somebody meant to so many people anywhere
in the world. And here he is an Atlantic city
walking in and I just remember, you know, so many
things flashed before you. But to be there outside of
the hospital and he's in there and dis diagnosed with

(33:05):
parkinson So and I'd just been around Howard Cosell too,
who had Parkinson's. I actually had to pour his water
for him because he couldn't hit the glass. He was terrible. So,
you know, the intersection. I've been very lucky over forty
years to have quite a few of those. But I
think Ali's impact on me because of the impact he

(33:26):
had on others.

Speaker 16 (33:28):
I walked into the media room at the Atlanta super Bowl.
You know they had that sort of big lounge and
then the area where all the computers were, and then
radio row was on the other side of that, that
would have been like two thousand, ninety nine, two thousand.
It was the Rams Titans, okay, and Tyson was fighting

(33:50):
on TV and there was a huge, big screen TV
and like really leather couches setting around. And I walked
into that press room and it was Muhammad Ali sitting
by himself watching a Mike Tyson fight, and I just like,
I can't go bother this, Like no one would go
bother him. I mean, it was very much like an

(34:11):
incredible sign of respect, you know. I just did that
Mickey Hart documentary, Mickey Hart the Drummer from The Grateful Dead,
and he and I worked on that for years, and
we did all these interviews with athletes, and it was
really interesting because he, you know, he's met every famous
person in the world, and he was in The Grateful
Dead and has his own center of energy and so
not a starstruck guy, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
And he was on the phone with Laila Ali and
you could.

Speaker 16 (34:37):
Tell, I mean, Micky was about to cry just being
in her virtual presence because of how much Muhammad Ali
meant to him as as a brave warrior, as a
great fighter, as someone who was willing to push all
of his chips into the middle of the table to

(34:58):
bet on something that he believed. It was really interesting
to sort of see Mickey get really star struck. And
then the other one was, you know, Bob Coosey is
alive and well and living in Wooster and it was
Mickey's childhood hero. But to see that him talking to
Bob Coosey and Bob Coosey talking about liking The Grateful

(35:20):
Dead was one of the most out of body experiences
of my whole life. I was just like, this is crazy.
I can't believe you know I We're on a zoom
just like this one. You know, Hi Todd, he's down
below us. His camera's off.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
I was like that.

Speaker 16 (35:32):
I was just my camera was off and my jaw
was hanging open as Mickey Hart from The Grateful Dead
is talking to Bob Coosey from the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
He's right, Thompson And the new book is The Barn,
The Secret History of a Murder in Mississippi, and it's
available now online wherever books are sold. Great to catch
up with you. I hope the girls are treating you
well and we'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Thank you. Buddy.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Thanks Dan, girls are great. Talk to you soon, man.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
That's right, Thompson. We have a pretty good streak. Whenever
he comes on. We make his book a bestseller. He's
probably already a best seller, but always loved talking to him.
We'll close up shop after this.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
In the movie Home Alone, John Candy was a polka
band leader, Gus Polinski and Uncle Buck. He was in
a bowling league. He was Buck Russell. I knew I
had it right now.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Uncle Buck classic?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, Uncle Buck underrated, John Candy underrated. John Candy was great,
Yes he was. The Cowboys are well. Dak Prescott twelve
and two lifetime against the Giants, the only NFL quarterback
to make at least ten starts against the Giants and
post a better record than Dak Prescott. A fellow Cowboy quarterback,
Roger Staubach, was sixteen and one. Al righty right the

(36:58):
headline today, all for tomorrow with tonight's game, Todd, I'll
start with you the Giants and the Cowboys. Right the headline,
today they blinded deck with Giants.

Speaker 15 (37:10):
That's good delivery.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
That That is a real stretch with Thomas Dolby.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Oh wait, dude, that is that is a home run ideot.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
That so good? Uh Connor right, tomorrow's headline they blinded
deck with Giants. All right, I'll go to mine is
how about uh blown star State Dallas?

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, okay, squandering great season for the Giants so far, Marvin,
I have big Dak energy.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
Cowboys dominate the Giants.

Speaker 8 (37:54):
Wow, Wow, Holy, that's not Nenaghborly Malik lights up.

Speaker 15 (38:01):
The Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (38:05):
Nailed that.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Though.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Mark Sanchez NFL former NFL quarterback, will join us on
the program tomorrow.

Speaker 12 (38:13):
Anybody else taught Bob Nightingaleill Jonas he's going to be
at that last A's Ball of the USA today the
Longtime Baseball columns.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Okay, the funeral, the funeral. So you've got a franchise funeral.
Then you got a team funeral with the White Sox.
Because it's not death to the franchise the Oakland A's
it's death to the franchise once again. The White Sox
are kind of sports version of hospice.

Speaker 15 (38:37):
He'll be back there.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, you show up and You're like, it's still alive.
Hey Tommy, how are you feeling better? This day in
sports history, Todd, what do you or a Paulie, what
do you have for me today?

Speaker 8 (38:49):
Nineteen sixty two Morey Will's La Dodgers first player to
steal one hundred bases. He finished season with one oh four,
also a Dodger. Related nineteen eighty one, Nolan Ryan to
the Aros first player to pitch five no hitters, five
zero victory over the Dodgers.

Speaker 15 (39:04):
Got that right, yeah, thank you. To nineteen ninety eight
Mark maguire.

Speaker 8 (39:10):
You may have heard of him, hit home runs sixty
seven and sixty eight on his way to.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Seventy okay um she dug in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Good morning, Doug. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 11 (39:20):
Groups singing? Dan?

Speaker 14 (39:22):
You know how people call say their birthday, You guys
mumble through a course of happy birthday. Well, it's not
my birthday today, but it is a special day. I
went on to Twitter and saw that seventy six years
ago Olivia Newton John was born, and I think the
show should end with the group singing of let's get quizzical.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
All right?

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well, thank you, Doug Todd. I'm surprised that you didn't
bring that up. This shame show history.

Speaker 14 (39:44):
It's good loot.

Speaker 12 (39:46):
It mixed good sports radio conversation.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
You gotta answer.

Speaker 16 (39:51):
Rich just right.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
You know what me don't google.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
Let's just try to do the thing.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Tell me so men, you know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Let's let's.

Speaker 12 (40:11):
Quiz Queisy.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Todd, what did you learn today?

Speaker 12 (40:23):
Somehow in Las Vegas, un l we can't afford to
pay our talented's notting QB.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
One hundred thousand dollars. Come on, see no Connor. What
did you learn? Marvin? What did you learn today?

Speaker 7 (40:33):
Andy's getting engaged in Puerto Rico?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yes, he had good luck Andy, Paulie, how did you learn?

Speaker 15 (40:38):
I'm so glad Todd didn't listen to that and do
a second take.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Todd, what did I learn?

Speaker 12 (40:43):
There's a pick a Ball movie in the works with
Dodgeball star Ben Store.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
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