March 4, 2025 • 41 mins
NFL Draft expert Trevor Sikkema joins the show to break down what we’ve learned since the NFL Combine and weigh in on Shedeur Sanders dropping on NFL draft boards. Plus, Dan and the Danettes preview tonight’s NBA action.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
In this Tuesday, we'll talk NFL Draft and the Shador
Sanders story that seems to be growing bad news for
the Dallas Mavericks. More bad news, I should say, sham
Sharania the Mothership. Kyrie Irving has suffered a season ending
torn a ACL and his left knee. He was hurt
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last night limped off the floor. At first it was
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the rest of the season. He appeared in fifty of
the MAVs sixty two games so far this season, but
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We'll get some more phone calls coming up. We spent
a lot of time talking about there's anonymous coach in
a meeting interview with Shadoor Sanders at the Combine and
this is apparently a team that's in the top seven
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as far as draft order, and there was a coach
who said that shouldre Sanders came off arrogant and brash.
We talked to Matt Miller of the Mothership Draft analyst.
He's not very high on Shaudor Sanders the football player.
But this just sort of, I don't know, came out
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of nowhere and then all of a sudden, opinions are coming,
you know, fast and furious. Trevor Sikima, he is the
lead analyst Pro Football Focus, and you have a strong
opinion on Shudor Sanders as well. Trevor, good to have
you back. Where do you stand on shud Or Sanders? Yeah,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Dan, first off, five to eleven, one seventy eight and
seven eight inch hand size, although that is with no
hand massaging going on. So I feel like if we
get a couple of weeks with that technique, I can
hit that Joe Burrow nine inch threshold. So I just
want to say that first and foremost. Uh, you know what,
shud Or Sanders. The fact of the matter is is
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I had him slipping out of my post combine mock
draft that I did over at PFF dot com. And
the reason why is because I could not find anybody
that spoke with conviction with Shudor Sanders being QB one
taken in the top ten or even as a first
round quarterback. So to me, when I hear that and
I line that up with a lot of people were
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talking about cam Ward, is somebody that you take that
chance on, I feel like it's a one quarterback race
at this point.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
When I watch Shador, he plays a very clean brand football.
He understands the position very very well. You could tell
that he's been raised around the game. He understands how
to read defenses, go through progressions all of that, operate
the pocket, make protection calls. He knows how to play quarterback.
The reason why I'm a little bit lower on him,
I gave him a late second early third round grade,
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is simply because I don't know if he's got that
crazy arm talent to be able to compete against the
Lamar Jackson's, the Josh Allens, the Patrick Mahomes, guys like that.
That the reason why you would draft the quarterback isn't
in the top ten, isn't just because hey, let's take
one just because we need one. It's because you want
to win a super Bowl. You're taking a guy that
high because you believe he can win a Super Bowl.
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Does shud Or have the overall arm talent to matchup
against those guys?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I think as we are getting more into draft
season and the combines a really good barometer for this,
you get sort of caught up on what the league
might have been thinking about these players really all along.
And I think we talked about to Q because there's
so many quarterback needy teams in the top ten. But
it just feels like teams are much more gravitating towards
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cam Ward worthy of a top selection and Chador maybe
something more on Day two or the late first round.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But how much of this is the last name that
if this is just you know, Shaud or Smith and
not Shoud or Sanders, you know, does his draft status
stock change at all? In your mind?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I would say that it would probably be the other
way around. You know, when you look at Shador and
I understand how well he played over the last couple
of years and everything that he was able to do
at Jackson State and then also at Colorado. I think, again,
he plays a very clean brand of football, But does
he have those NFL level traits that you want as
a franchise caliber quarterback because he lacks the overall mobility
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And again, I think that he's got a mid tier
NFL level arm strength, but it's it's nothing that's really special.
So I wonder if it's the opposite VP, and I
wonder if it's the fact that, hey, we've been talking
about Shador in the top ten, in the top five
because of sort of who he is and the notoriety
that he has, instead of the other way around, like
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we're seeing now where it's like, oh, well, does the
NFL not like him, you know, because of his last
name and some people call it baggage. I agree with
Shador when he said at the Shrine Bull He's like,
I didn't know that having a supportive parent was all
of a sudden a bad thing, you know, Like I
totally agree with him when he says that, And so
I think it's much more of maybe the notoriety and
him being in the public eye and us saying like, hey,
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if you need a quarterback, he's a quarterback in this class.
And now we're just sort of catching up to it.
Feels like the NFL is saying, eh, maybe not quite
in the top ten, maybe something a little bit further
down the line.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And he's going to get a lot of attention because
he's Dion Son. And then there's cam Ward, who is
appears to be by far and away the number one
quarterback in the draft. Let's nitpick, because that's what we
start to do this time of the year. Trevor nitpick
cam Ward.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Well, I think that you know Joe Shane, the general
manager of the new the New York Giants, who they
very much need a quarterback as well. You know, he
was asked specifically about cam Ward when he was at
his podium session at the Combine, and you know he said,
you know, hey, you watch that col game, in that
Virginia Tech game. Those are two games where at the
end of it, when the clockheads zero, cam Ward, what
a hero, incredible comeback. But then he goes the reason
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why they needed to come back is also because of
him a little bit. So it is a little bit
of that hot and cold there, and so there's no doubt.
I mean, like you don't need to even necessarily call
it nitpicking to talk about what is the total product
of cam Ward. He's somebody who is just very unorthodox.
And how he looks back there in the pocket. I
mean there are times when the feet just stopped moving
completely and you go, did you freeze? Like do we
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need to you know, unplug you and reset you here
before you get rid of the ball, And like that's
just sometimes what it looks like for cam Ward. And
so his style, you know, how he releases the football,
the decisions of when to push the ball down the field,
all of that, it's a little bit boom or bust.
You know, it's a little bit of like can you
stomach this? But the reason why I do, and the
reason why he's my QB one is because I firmly
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believe in a game where the margins are so small,
every quarterback in the NFL has about two to four
throws that they have to make every single week to
win in this league.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Cam Nordon not only in my.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Opinion, has the arm talent to do so, but he
has the mentality to do so. He will willingly attack
those throws and take those chances. So it's a lot
of that. Hey, there's a lot of good, a lot
of bad. You want to try to raise the floor
with them. But yeah, I mean, we don't even necessarily
have to call it nitpicking. This is sort of a
risky quarterback class here, including with Ward.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Trevor Sikima, the Pro Football Focus lead draft analyst joining
us on the program. If you looked at Sam Darnold's
profile now compared to when he was coming into the NFL,
how much has it changed with Pro Football Focus looking at.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Him, No, it's a lot, and it's a lot of
dealing with pressure. Honestly, you know what he was able
to do at USC, I think that that short sort
of shows that, you know, when you're in a really
good college environment sometimes that can mask things, right. We
saw that with Zach Wilson as well, where at BYU
he's playing behind one of the best offensive lines in
the country and then he gets to the New York Jets.
Both of those guys, ironically, and it's just a different story.
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You're playing with a lot of pressure. You know, there's
the phrase that everybody likes to, you know, continue to
bring up with Sam Darnold where he felt like he
was seeing ghosts and it just it took him a
while to get to this point where he's now confident
enough to not see ghosts anymore, to really be able
to play under pressure the way that he needs to now.
I know, those last two games of the season sort
of brought back some of those doubts from him. But
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you know, at PFF, it was really that passing grade
under pressure that was that was such a sticking point
with him when he was with the Jets and how
different it was under Kevin O'Connell and in that system.
Now did O'Connell do a nice job of making it
maybe easier for him, of course, But that manifests itself
in confidence, and that's the most important thing for every
player making the jump from college to the NFL. When
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can you expect that confidence? And I think that's a
big part of when teams do these player interviews and
when they get these guys in for these private workouts,
it's simply determined because they've watched the tape, they know
the scouting reports. It's simply determining Are you a confident
football player? Can you hit the ground running and still
bring all of your talent to the floor here when
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you get here in the NFL? And for Sam that
wasn't the case early on, but sometimes it takes a
little bit of the development from these guys.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
How many running backs have first round grades at Pro
Football Focus.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So I would say two of them have first round
grades in Ashton Genty and Omari and Hampton. But I
could see, yeah, after the combine that quin Shawn Jenkins
had from Ohio State, I think he is in that category.
You know, Caleb Johnson, I know a lot of people
love him from Iowa. I think that he is in
that category. The running back that I am the most
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confused with is did we just forget what cam' Scatibo
did at Arizona State over this past year. Like I understand,
he's not going to run the fastest forty yard dash,
but even at the combine, the one thing he did
was the vertical jump and it was thirty nine and
a half inches. That is well above expectation and showcases
that explosive this. I mean, we even saw in the
College Football Playoff he's rushing for touchdowns he's catching touchdowns,
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he's throwing for touchdowns. This is a football player, man,
And from the running back position, I think that we
just we sometimes focus on the wrong things. How often
do you really have the chance to be a quote
unquote home run hitter at the running back position. How
many times do you get the chance to run a
forty to fifty sixty yard.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Game to the house. Doesn't happen at the NFL level.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Give me the guys that will turn a three yard
carry into a four and a half yard carry on
a regular basis, with that yards after contact in that style.
So I don't think that camp Scattaboy is going to
go in round one, but that's another player that we're
going to get a lot of these running backs that
go on the fringe or early parts in round two.
I mentioned Caleb Johnson Scataboo. I think that Trayvon Henderson
is in there as well, a couple of guys who
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had good combines, and DJ Giddens and RJ. Harvey might
get there in the back of the second round. So
I would tell you we're getting at least two he
get the least Ashing genty and O Marion Hampton are
getting in the first round, but could very well have
that third if it's Quinshawn Jenkins.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Great to talk to you as always, Trevor, thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Appreciate a DP anytime.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That's Trevor Sikima, the lead draft analysts for Pro Football Focus.
All right, so those are two guys, well respected guys
in the industry, and both saying the same thing. Shadoor
Sanders might not be a first round town. This has
just started. It feels like now he didn't do anything
at the combine other than do interviews, but now all
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of a sudden, it feels like there's this groundswell consensus
that should Door Sanders is overrated. I want to see
what happens on his pro date. Now, I don't put
too much stock in it, and I'll go back to
what I've said. I'm not rewriting history. I loved what
I saw with him at Colorado, but he is not
a playmaker, you know, the way we look at Josh
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Allen mean, Joe Burrow's more of a playmaker, justin Herbert
more of a playmaker. He's not a playmaker. He's not big,
he's not fast, He's tough, but I don't know you know,
can that translate to a six foot one quarterback who
doesn't extend plays the way you would want your quarterback
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in today's game to be able to extend. So, whoever
was ranking him before, I don't know what they were
factoring in or not factoring in cam Ward, I get it.
Everybody talks about how strong his arm is. I get that.
Is that enough in this draft? It will be because
he's going to go probably in the top three. Normally
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he wouldn't, yeah, pulling any chance.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
This is the opposite what's being talked about that these
NFL teams are feigning disinterest in Shador Sanders in hopes
that he drops. If you're the Las Vegas Raiders, you
walk around the combine saying yet that he's not on
our radar.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Okay, but does Pete Carroll want a rookie quarterback? Let's
just look at team by team. If Pete Carroll wants
a veteran quarterback, you don't want to take a quarterback.
You want to get the right quarterback. You don't want
to go, hey, we need a quarterback, Let's take shaudor Sanders. Seventh. Overall,
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the Giants that coaching staff needs to win now or
they're going to get fired. Well, Aaron Rodgers gives you
a better chance than shardor Sanders, and probably cam Ward does.
Right now, Tennessee, if I'm Tennessee, I trade down. You
don't you need a quarterback, But let's get somebody who
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is going to be a great player for you, like
Abdul Carter. You want Travis Hunters, somebody you know is
going to be great, Yes, Mark, But.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Pete Carroll had Rocky Russell Wilson. So maybe if he
thinks Shard door Sanders would fit in his system, maybe
he'll go with him.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But he had a top five defense. He just needed
a quarterback who could be a little more athletic than
Matt Flynn. You know, the bar wasn't set too high there,
and Russ turned out to be a whole lot better
than you know, Pete probably even thought, and he I
wouldn't put, you know, out of the equation of bringing
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in Russell Wilson to Vegas. I think I think Pete
and Russ have mended their offences there. I think that
relationship was bad in Seattle. And you know, my source
said that it was going to be one or the
other had to go and of course Russell lost that one.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yeah, Pauli, Marvi and I were just saying, who's the
least Vegas quarterback.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Russell, wils Kirk Cousins, one seed, Yes Kirk Cousins. Yes,
Wilson is super Vegas.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well his wife will make him super Vegas.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Remember man, when we saw him in Miami. He's got
the chains, he's got the shades of Valor's shirt.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
He's modern day Vegas.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I thought he was trying to channel John Stamos when
we saw him in Miami with his hair and like
he was like, damn, what's going on?
Speaker 9 (15:16):
Russ?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And I was like, that's a makeover with your wife.
Sierra's got that written all over. Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
I still think though, teams like the New York Giants
and jackson not Jacksonville, the Raiders, the Jets, the Saints,
they're probably all playing it if they don't aren't interested
in that quarterback because there's not a lot to choose from.
Remember years ago, the Jacksonville Jaguars, they didn't even interview
Blake Bortles, and they acted like they weren't interested and
they just took him. Now, it worked out for a
little bit. But these teams have deeper strategies sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, but if once again they're looking at Shade or
Sanders and they're assessing what is real he's non athletic
in the face bet he's six to one. Oh wait,
what's the well, no teams are going to be stupid.
I mean somebody will be like, uh, she's right there, Well,
we're gonna take him.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
What would be the over under from where he's drafted.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
If I give you five and a half five and
a half over under pie to the face, would you
take pie to the face under five and a half?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Is anybody who want a piece of Paulie for piece
of pie? Shudoor Sanders goes in the top five, anybody
want a piece of that? Could be a trade. Somebody
trades crickets on the other side, crickets on the.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
If we would have done this bet, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
What, Paulie, I'll take you. I'll take you up on it.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
If we did this bet two weeks ago, everybody would
have said he's in the top yes, yes, so.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You got Shoudoor Sanders fifth or higher the over under
five and a half. The bet is who has he
will go within the Paulie has shudor going top five,
So the over under five and a half. If I
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made you guys bet on it, what would you take?
I would take the six six six. Oh yeah, yeah
I could. I could talk myself into jumping in on that. Marvin,
what about you? Yeah I could too, Paul Fritzi, Yeah,
six plus yeah, all right, I like it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Good times.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, we we have to have one of these bets
every draft. What was the one we had last year?
Was it? Uh? Didn't didn't? Wasn't there a bet top
fifteen pick or dang Kenny Pickett? I think was a
few years ago that we did that one.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Yeah, Paul, he definitely did a number of quarterbacks in
round one last year. I think we had four and
a half or five and a half.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Oh man checking.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Okay, all right, let's let me take a break here,
let me take a break. We get more phone calls
coming up back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 3 (19:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
The Eagles cut Darius Sleigh and it's one of those
where you go wow, but then you realize he's thirty four.
He wants to play one more year. They have a
really young secondary and he gets paid a lot of money.
He became expendable. Recapping the Kyrie Irving news. He's out
for the rest of the year. Torn acl This according
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to ESPN Final Hour poll question Seaton, did you put
up something for the third hour?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Yeah, we got one here to update you on. Being
franchise tagged is a black Big Mike, positive or negative?
Being franchise tagged is a positive or negative?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I would say a negative and lass I'm Kirk Cousins
and I get tagged, and then I get tagged, and
then I get signed a guaranteed contract after that. It
certainly worked out well for him. I don't think t
Higgins is thrilled that he got tagged by the Cincinnati Bengals. Again.
He wants to Yes, he wants to get a long
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term deal. And now you hire Jamar Chase's agent, so
maybe you kind of go in there and you go,
let me negotiate for both of my clients here. But
Jamar Chase is going to get paid. Justin Jefferson, the
highest paid wide receiver. I believe if I'm Jamar Chase,
now you're going in and trying to negotiate with the
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Bengals historically cheap. I'm asking for something that begins with
a four, and you could say I got you to
the super Bowl, and if the line had blocked Aaron Donald,
I might have won you the super Bowl. He's probably
gonna ask for that. And look, T Higgins got paid
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a lot, like I think it's around twenty six twenty
seven million for the tag. That's one year. See that's
the problem. You know, you're you want guaranteed money, and
if you're a wide receiver, you know, just like a
running back, your days are numbered staying healthy. You want
to get as the kids say, the bag. T Higgins
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didn't get it, So I would say not not a compliment. Yes, Marvin,
you know.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I think sor right, because look, you get a big
bag for this year, but I know you want long term.
But if you're a Le'Veon Bell, would you have played
that season?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes, yes, but it's a good thing because you never
get that money back. You know he never got that
money back and.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
He had to go play for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yes, yes, you try to prove a point and it
didn't work. Cow. Well there, all right, a couple of
phone calls in here. Let's see how about Tracy and Georgia? Hi, Trace,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Good morning, gentlemen in Fritzy. When you're having the discussion
about the most arrogant quarterbacks of all time, you're really
leaving off one of the one of the worst. In
my opinion, this guy gets a couple of stats. See
if we can't get a blue blue. This guy signed
the highest rookie contract ever. He threw forty six interceptions
on his way to forty one touchdowns, lost thirty five
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of his first forty nine games, and that ineptitude was
only surpassed by his ability to be a grade A
number one A hole.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You guess me, Paulie.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I think I have this Jeff George blue bloo.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
All right, congratulations, Paulie knows a holes. Jeff George. Congratulations,
Jeff George. All you could throw a great depot. That's
the only whatever you say, Jeff George, they always go, man,
he could throw the deep ball on the prettier balls. Yeah,
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Jeff George, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Lucas and Texas, Hi Luke, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (23:16):
Good morning, Good morning. I want to talk real quick
about shaduor Sanders, but I've got to compliment Eduardo from
a couple of hours ago. In a show that celebrates
left turns, I have not really heard of one that
made me stop and laugh harder than someone with a
deep voice like Paul Harvey. Like someone called earlier Paul
Harvey talking about various statey Eye of South America. Anyways,
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I'd like to talk. I'm here to talk about Shador Sanders, like,
oh my gosh, it was an all timer. It was
like to be celebrated. But yeah, I mean, my two
cents on it is I agree with Peter King. This
is all a smoke show in a league, in a
professional environment that almost thrives on arrogance, Like I mean,
what twenty two year old think that they could take
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over an NFL team and not be a little bit arrogant.
He feels like someone is just waiting to try to
get a little maneuvering place. And I agree, I think
the Raiders are a great spot. Brady was famously cocky, arrogant,
however you want to phrase it, and that's always been
the brand of the Raiders. This feels like a play
more than anything else. I lean more with Peter team
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than the other two guests you guys have had. I
think he's right on the ball with it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Okay, but you know, keep this in mind. This is
one coach who labeled Shador Sanders arrogant in brash. These
are two analysts who are looking at Shadoor Sanders not
as arrogant or brash, just his talent. So there's a
big difference here. If it's a smoke screen kind of
a fakes smear campaign. Okay, that's one thing. These are
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analysts who are looking him as a football player, not
his personality. They're talking about he's only six to one,
he's not a great athlete. Does he have a big
time arm? So those are football questions, This isn't personality questions.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Yes, it's not exactly breaking news or a hot take
too to say either that just based on my own
lived experience, there is a sizeable percentage of children who
grow up with wealthy parents that are arrogant. I don't
know if people were aware of this or not, but
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most wealthy kids are kids who come from wealthy parents.
By and large, fair to be a certain degree of arrogant.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I don't like this personality trait if you want to
call it, doesn't bother me because I have a friend.
The first time I met him, this is fifteen years ago,
he told me is IQ. It was one sixty two,
and I said to him, if you're that smart, shouldn't
I have been able to figure out that you're that smart?
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Why did you have to tell me? But he is
extremely arrogant, cocky, confident, but he does want to be wrong.
So sr. Door Sanders might be arrogant, might be cocky,
but he he doesn't He's not going to let himself
be embarrassed. He's he's gonna be great, or at least
that's his mindset. You want to be great. You don't
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want to put yourself out there and have somebody go, oh,
you're supposed to be great or you're supposed to be smart.
There's people who are like that that they still you
may not like their personality, but that's who they are
and they don't want to be wrong. Shir Door Sanders,
he's got money, an I l came from money with
his father. Maybe he's going in with you know, an
(26:38):
entitled you know kind of persona. I understand it, but
that you know, if you're arrogant or brash or cocky
or whatever, let me see how you play. I don't
care what you say. I care how you play.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Yeah, Paul, If you play well, your personality is a positive.
If you play poorly, it's a negative. Jay Cutler was
kind of the thard and disinterested, but when he played well,
he wasn't. And then when he started playing poorly for
the Bears, he was that. If you look at Joe Montana,
you met Joe, he seems casual, not fired up raw rah.
But nobody ever said anything about his demeanor. His demeanor
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was cool because he won.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Robin Orlando, Hi, Rob, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Hey Dan, Good afternoon. Good chat with you guys again.
Multi time caller, long time listener five eleven, two oh six. Yeah.
I don't want to overachieve, under achieve. I just want
to be average. I'm the shoot hour Sanders thing you
guys are talking about, you know, And and here draft
analysts talk about his skill set. He might have been
(27:42):
the sixth seventh pick last year in the draft, six
seven quarterback come out of the draft last year, And
I think that's really the rob So combine that with
the side was going to be potentially him and his father.
I think teams that are like borderline on them aren'
gonna want to deal with that.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It might be, you know, they may find out that
Chardoor doesn't want to go to the Cleveland Browns. Maybe
the Cleveland Browns don't want Shardoor. And I think what
happened is we got caught up in oh Dion's going
to steer him where he wants to and you know,
is he gonna want to go to the Tennessee Titans
or the Jets or they may not want him for
(28:21):
all we know. But Dion, when he joined me at
the Super Bowl said he's already reached out to some
teams to talk to them.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't know if it's you better take him or
you better not take him, but he's already started that process.
He may just be overrated because he should. Door Sanders
and we saw him he was at Colorado. I just
know what I saw on the field. He's a good quarterback,
tough quarterback. But once again we're talking there's a lot
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of really good quarterbacks in college. There's only a few
really really good quarterbacks in the NFL. Is he capable
of being that kind of quarterback? Is he a Teddy Bridgewater,
which is not a bad career, but not a franchise quarterback,
similar skill set. Probably not a big guy, not particularly elusive,
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but stayed. You know, Jacoby Brissett, I mean, I don't
know an he's six' one two or six one and a. Half,
okay that's a knock as. Well BUT i think in
TODAY'S nfl they're probably. Looking you, know it used to
be these cookie. Cutters you had to be six four
(29:39):
or six,' five you had to have a, big arm
you had to be strong in. The pocket those days are.
LONG gone, I Mean matthew stafford is. A Dinosaur Even,
JARED goff, I Mean josh allen is, that size but
he has that the athleticism of any other quarterback Except.
For lamar, You, know kyler we're still not Sure. About
(30:04):
russ we're still not sure about after all these years
we were and then. We WEREN'T now i don't know
where we are. With it but, you know looking for,
your quarterback you know, the size, arm strength can you
can you extend? A play can you get? A First
patrick mahomes was not known as a great Athlete At texas.
(30:26):
TECH people i don't KNOW if i ever read anything where, they,
go man that guy, can run, it was he can throw,
the ball and then what, you know one of his
great attributes is extending a. Play running every one of
these quarterbacks you. NEED it i don't care If It's,
(30:47):
Geno Smith. Trevor lawrence at some point you need your
quarterback to extend a play or beat you with. His
legs and that's not something should. Or does can you
say he's going to stay in. The pocket and he
may Be A geno smith kind, of quarterback which nothing wrong.
With that gino's starting and, you know really resuscitated. HIS
(31:09):
career i just don't Know if shador is a. Great quarterback,
maybe good but is that. Good enough Let's see James In. Salt, Lake,
hi james what's on? Your? Mind?
Speaker 13 (31:24):
Okay dan how, you?
Speaker 12 (31:25):
Doing brother how you?
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Been?
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Great james?
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Good man i'm.
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GLAD man i love, YOUR show i love.
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YOUR vibe i love what.
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Y'all, do man thank you.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
For that just, real.
Speaker 13 (31:35):
QUICK man i know y'all haven't said much about the
tink gave, this fight but is this guy WITH the wwe.
THE ref, i mean this guy got to talk to,
his mom he was Looking, for floyd and then he
didn't even get. A count this would have been a
perfect Time for johnsena to come out and. GO rogue
i can't, Believe, IT dan i don't know. WHAT'S up i,
love boxing but how did this guy not get a
count and.
Speaker 12 (31:55):
Got his face?
Speaker 13 (31:55):
Wiped off he was able to do whatever he wanted
and then the, ref's like are?
Speaker 14 (31:58):
You okay?
Speaker 12 (31:59):
You're good you want?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
To far, but yeah, all right well Thank. You james
maybe a. Left turn eduardo said that that was a. Left,
turn uh let's take a. Break here did you follow, That.
FIGHT marvin i saw a couple of stories, on IT
BUT i.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
I just saw Videos, on TWITTER but i didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
See, anything yeah? In, DETAIL yeah I mean i was
too caught Up In john cena. TURNING heel, I mean
i can't.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Even believe. It's Unbelievable After, hulk hogan this is the
biggest heel turning in the head.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Is unbelievable it. Is, unbelievable, Yeah, yes paul.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
The Fight Was tank Davis Versus lamont Roach And tank
davis he got something from his hair into his eyes
and it affected his vision and he took like a
time out during a, live ROUND which i think confused
people because they didn't know there was timeouts, in BOXING
because i don't think, There, are, uh okay but the.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Ref let them take.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
A break i saw a. Fight recently uh it WAS
the ufc where the guy went to tap the gloves of,
his opponent, you know to you kind of come out and,
you tap, you know it's like it's like.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
He.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Suckered, him yeah he. Dropped him he dropped him in
his seven Seconds. Bush lee, it's, like yeah tap and then,
he tabbed put his, hand boom. Seven, Seconds, yes marvin
protect yourself at. All times, Thank. You marvin let's take.
A break last call for? Phone calls what? We learn
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Jalen brunson, all right this day in, Sports, history paul
what do you have?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
For me he's got a couple, for you. This one in,
nineteen Thirteen The New york yankees Traveled to bermuda for,
spring practice as they. Called it they were the first
team to leave the country from.
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To train.
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The v foundation formed in nineteen ninety three And In
new york nineteen, ninety three the first Ever esp awards.
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Were held you, Were, THERE yes i was after party.
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Pretty good uh they have, Those back yeah.
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that we had a. GOOD party i remember that we,
LAUNCHED well i don't want to get too, many DETAILS
but i remember a member of management fell out of,
a car a parked car in the. Parking lot he
(35:50):
had been, over served but, you know he. Wasn't driving
that was the, good thing but kind of spilled out
of his car or. SOMEBODY'S car i, Should, say ah
the good, old days.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
YOU.
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Know espn Let's see Abby In des Moines Or.
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Des.
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Monet hi how are?
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You?
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With me.
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This is a little.
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Thank you we've had some People From des moines who've
reached out ALREADY and i think talking about some of
the places that you've. Brought up but we are still
planning on Going. To. Iowa uh, in fact we've talked
about it almost on a. Weekly basis we'll let you
know when we're going and where we're going to be
in the different cities that we're going to try. To
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i guess, you know they would do it, by train
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Iowa uh David. In La, hi david what's on your? Mind?
Speaker 16 (37:54):
Today HID and i wanted to reference your father's innovative
thinking in the area for ball analytics because it reminds
me of something press here my own father came up
with in the. NINETEEN seventies i remember him describing and
even sketching out this concept that would use ground level
cameras moving.
Speaker 13 (38:14):
Up and down the sidelines on.
Speaker 16 (38:16):
A, fixed rail precisely measuring ball spots and doing away with. First,
starantams now, you know who knows how this would have
played out with coaches tripping over it or fans who
liked the drama of. A MEASUREMENT but i, was thinking
imagine if our two visionary fathers got together and perfected
their respective ideas and they stayed of REVOLUTIONIZED the nfl
(38:37):
fifty years ahead of.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Its, time well, Thank. You, david yeah a lot of
Reaction that sean McVay was on yesterday and his grandfather
was the coach At the University. Of dayton my dad
was in computer science and this is back in the
late sixties, early seventies and he wanted to help the,
football team so he asked coach McVeigh to give him
all the information on their opponents and what their. Tendencies
(39:01):
were he was trying to, figure out, you know what they,
would call, you know third, and eight what they would
call if it was, you know first, and ten what
plays would? They run and he put it into a
computer and then, you know it's probably one of the
first football analytics that was. EVER invented, i guess lack
(39:21):
of a, better word but he thought the computers were.
The future we didn't see it at, you know all
of my brothers, and sisters but obviously he. Was right
and with the analytics. As well where would we be, Without,
analytics well some WOULD say i wish we were. Without
analytics Don't Get michael wilbon started, on this, but yeah
(39:45):
thank you for the reaction. To that let Me see
terry And. San, Diego hi Terry.
Speaker 14 (39:53):
Hie dan first. Time caller thanks for. HAVING me i
really appreciate. Your Show, SADUR sanders i really feel like
he's a social media influencer draft pick because he doesn't make,
decisions fast and you looked. At it, you know the
first played with a bad. Offensive line he was getting
(40:14):
killed and until he had like three or five seconds,
to throw he. Was horrible he's, not fast he doesn't
make decisions Quickly Like. BAKER mayfield i don't understand how
this quarterback that would rather take a sack than throw
a risky ball or throw it away to pat his
satz is getting so. MUCH hype i feel like there
are teams trying to trick other teams into. Drafting him.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
IT'S crazy, i well, ONCE again i didn't hear, any
negatives of very, few negatives and now all of, a
sudden That's all i've heard, negatives now and then there,
might be, you know a groundswell for the other side
to come back and talk about all the, great things
and then he has his pro day. As, well todd
would you learn today.
Speaker 12 (40:56):
What made me perceived as arrogance or brash behavior to
one person could be great confidence with a little cockiness to.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
In this Tuesday, we'll talk NFL Draft and the Shador
Sanders story that seems to be growing bad news for
the Dallas Mavericks. More bad news, I should say, sham
Sharania the Mothership. Kyrie Irving has suffered a season ending
torn a ACL and his left knee. He was hurt
(00:26):
last night limped off the floor. At first it was
labeled a sprain at an MRI and realized that he
had torn the ACL. He is currently the only player
in the NBA averaging at least twenty points shooting forty
percent from three point range ninety percent from the free
throw line, the fifth season in his career with those statistics,
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second most all time to Steph Curry, but out for
the rest of the season. He appeared in fifty of
the MAVs sixty two games so far this season, but
done for the year and getting injured on the night
when the Mavericks announced they're going to raise season ticket
prices for next season. Congratulations, what a month for the
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We'll get some more phone calls coming up. We spent
a lot of time talking about there's anonymous coach in
a meeting interview with Shadoor Sanders at the Combine and
this is apparently a team that's in the top seven
(01:31):
as far as draft order, and there was a coach
who said that shouldre Sanders came off arrogant and brash.
We talked to Matt Miller of the Mothership Draft analyst.
He's not very high on Shaudor Sanders the football player.
But this just sort of, I don't know, came out
(01:53):
of nowhere and then all of a sudden, opinions are coming,
you know, fast and furious. Trevor Sikima, he is the
lead analyst Pro Football Focus, and you have a strong
opinion on Shudor Sanders as well. Trevor, good to have
you back. Where do you stand on shud Or Sanders? Yeah,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Dan, first off, five to eleven, one seventy eight and
seven eight inch hand size, although that is with no
hand massaging going on. So I feel like if we
get a couple of weeks with that technique, I can
hit that Joe Burrow nine inch threshold. So I just
want to say that first and foremost. Uh, you know what,
shud Or Sanders. The fact of the matter is is
(02:32):
I had him slipping out of my post combine mock
draft that I did over at PFF dot com. And
the reason why is because I could not find anybody
that spoke with conviction with Shudor Sanders being QB one
taken in the top ten or even as a first
round quarterback. So to me, when I hear that and
I line that up with a lot of people were
(02:53):
talking about cam Ward, is somebody that you take that
chance on, I feel like it's a one quarterback race
at this point.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
When I watch Shador, he plays a very clean brand football.
He understands the position very very well. You could tell
that he's been raised around the game. He understands how
to read defenses, go through progressions all of that, operate
the pocket, make protection calls. He knows how to play quarterback.
The reason why I'm a little bit lower on him,
I gave him a late second early third round grade,
(03:20):
is simply because I don't know if he's got that
crazy arm talent to be able to compete against the
Lamar Jackson's, the Josh Allens, the Patrick Mahomes, guys like that.
That the reason why you would draft the quarterback isn't
in the top ten, isn't just because hey, let's take
one just because we need one. It's because you want
to win a super Bowl. You're taking a guy that
high because you believe he can win a Super Bowl.
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Does shud Or have the overall arm talent to matchup
against those guys?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I think as we are getting more into draft
season and the combines a really good barometer for this,
you get sort of caught up on what the league
might have been thinking about these players really all along.
And I think we talked about to Q because there's
so many quarterback needy teams in the top ten. But
it just feels like teams are much more gravitating towards
(04:07):
cam Ward worthy of a top selection and Chador maybe
something more on Day two or the late first round.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But how much of this is the last name that
if this is just you know, Shaud or Smith and
not Shoud or Sanders, you know, does his draft status
stock change at all? In your mind?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I would say that it would probably be the other
way around. You know, when you look at Shador and
I understand how well he played over the last couple
of years and everything that he was able to do
at Jackson State and then also at Colorado. I think, again,
he plays a very clean brand of football, But does
he have those NFL level traits that you want as
a franchise caliber quarterback because he lacks the overall mobility
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And again, I think that he's got a mid tier
NFL level arm strength, but it's it's nothing that's really special.
So I wonder if it's the opposite VP, and I
wonder if it's the fact that, hey, we've been talking
about Shador in the top ten, in the top five
because of sort of who he is and the notoriety
that he has, instead of the other way around, like
(05:09):
we're seeing now where it's like, oh, well, does the
NFL not like him, you know, because of his last
name and some people call it baggage. I agree with
Shador when he said at the Shrine Bull He's like,
I didn't know that having a supportive parent was all
of a sudden a bad thing, you know, Like I
totally agree with him when he says that, And so
I think it's much more of maybe the notoriety and
him being in the public eye and us saying like, hey,
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if you need a quarterback, he's a quarterback in this class.
And now we're just sort of catching up to it.
Feels like the NFL is saying, eh, maybe not quite
in the top ten, maybe something a little bit further
down the line.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And he's going to get a lot of attention because
he's Dion Son. And then there's cam Ward, who is
appears to be by far and away the number one
quarterback in the draft. Let's nitpick, because that's what we
start to do this time of the year. Trevor nitpick
cam Ward.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Well, I think that you know Joe Shane, the general
manager of the new the New York Giants, who they
very much need a quarterback as well. You know, he
was asked specifically about cam Ward when he was at
his podium session at the Combine, and you know he said,
you know, hey, you watch that col game, in that
Virginia Tech game. Those are two games where at the
end of it, when the clockheads zero, cam Ward, what
a hero, incredible comeback. But then he goes the reason
(06:16):
why they needed to come back is also because of
him a little bit. So it is a little bit
of that hot and cold there, and so there's no doubt.
I mean, like you don't need to even necessarily call
it nitpicking to talk about what is the total product
of cam Ward. He's somebody who is just very unorthodox.
And how he looks back there in the pocket. I
mean there are times when the feet just stopped moving
completely and you go, did you freeze? Like do we
(06:37):
need to you know, unplug you and reset you here
before you get rid of the ball, And like that's
just sometimes what it looks like for cam Ward. And
so his style, you know, how he releases the football,
the decisions of when to push the ball down the field,
all of that, it's a little bit boom or bust.
You know, it's a little bit of like can you
stomach this? But the reason why I do, and the
reason why he's my QB one is because I firmly
(06:58):
believe in a game where the margins are so small,
every quarterback in the NFL has about two to four
throws that they have to make every single week to
win in this league.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Cam Nordon not only in my.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Opinion, has the arm talent to do so, but he
has the mentality to do so. He will willingly attack
those throws and take those chances. So it's a lot
of that. Hey, there's a lot of good, a lot
of bad. You want to try to raise the floor
with them. But yeah, I mean, we don't even necessarily
have to call it nitpicking. This is sort of a
risky quarterback class here, including with Ward.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Trevor Sikima, the Pro Football Focus lead draft analyst joining
us on the program. If you looked at Sam Darnold's
profile now compared to when he was coming into the NFL,
how much has it changed with Pro Football Focus looking at.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Him, No, it's a lot, and it's a lot of
dealing with pressure. Honestly, you know what he was able
to do at USC, I think that that short sort
of shows that, you know, when you're in a really
good college environment sometimes that can mask things, right. We
saw that with Zach Wilson as well, where at BYU
he's playing behind one of the best offensive lines in
the country and then he gets to the New York Jets.
Both of those guys, ironically, and it's just a different story.
(08:09):
You're playing with a lot of pressure. You know, there's
the phrase that everybody likes to, you know, continue to
bring up with Sam Darnold where he felt like he
was seeing ghosts and it just it took him a
while to get to this point where he's now confident
enough to not see ghosts anymore, to really be able
to play under pressure the way that he needs to now.
I know, those last two games of the season sort
of brought back some of those doubts from him. But
(08:31):
you know, at PFF, it was really that passing grade
under pressure that was that was such a sticking point
with him when he was with the Jets and how
different it was under Kevin O'Connell and in that system.
Now did O'Connell do a nice job of making it
maybe easier for him, of course, But that manifests itself
in confidence, and that's the most important thing for every
player making the jump from college to the NFL. When
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can you expect that confidence? And I think that's a
big part of when teams do these player interviews and
when they get these guys in for these private workouts,
it's simply determined because they've watched the tape, they know
the scouting reports. It's simply determining Are you a confident
football player? Can you hit the ground running and still
bring all of your talent to the floor here when
(09:15):
you get here in the NFL? And for Sam that
wasn't the case early on, but sometimes it takes a
little bit of the development from these guys.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
How many running backs have first round grades at Pro
Football Focus.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So I would say two of them have first round
grades in Ashton Genty and Omari and Hampton. But I
could see, yeah, after the combine that quin Shawn Jenkins
had from Ohio State, I think he is in that category.
You know, Caleb Johnson, I know a lot of people
love him from Iowa. I think that he is in
that category. The running back that I am the most
(09:50):
confused with is did we just forget what cam' Scatibo
did at Arizona State over this past year. Like I understand,
he's not going to run the fastest forty yard dash,
but even at the combine, the one thing he did
was the vertical jump and it was thirty nine and
a half inches. That is well above expectation and showcases
that explosive this. I mean, we even saw in the
College Football Playoff he's rushing for touchdowns he's catching touchdowns,
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he's throwing for touchdowns. This is a football player, man,
And from the running back position, I think that we
just we sometimes focus on the wrong things. How often
do you really have the chance to be a quote
unquote home run hitter at the running back position. How
many times do you get the chance to run a
forty to fifty sixty yard.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Game to the house. Doesn't happen at the NFL level.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Give me the guys that will turn a three yard
carry into a four and a half yard carry on
a regular basis, with that yards after contact in that style.
So I don't think that camp Scattaboy is going to
go in round one, but that's another player that we're
going to get a lot of these running backs that
go on the fringe or early parts in round two.
I mentioned Caleb Johnson Scataboo. I think that Trayvon Henderson
is in there as well, a couple of guys who
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had good combines, and DJ Giddens and RJ. Harvey might
get there in the back of the second round. So
I would tell you we're getting at least two he
get the least Ashing genty and O Marion Hampton are
getting in the first round, but could very well have
that third if it's Quinshawn Jenkins.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Great to talk to you as always, Trevor, thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Appreciate a DP anytime.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That's Trevor Sikima, the lead draft analysts for Pro Football Focus.
All right, so those are two guys, well respected guys
in the industry, and both saying the same thing. Shadoor
Sanders might not be a first round town. This has
just started. It feels like now he didn't do anything
at the combine other than do interviews, but now all
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of a sudden, it feels like there's this groundswell consensus
that should Door Sanders is overrated. I want to see
what happens on his pro date. Now, I don't put
too much stock in it, and I'll go back to
what I've said. I'm not rewriting history. I loved what
I saw with him at Colorado, but he is not
a playmaker, you know, the way we look at Josh
(11:58):
Allen mean, Joe Burrow's more of a playmaker, justin Herbert
more of a playmaker. He's not a playmaker. He's not big,
he's not fast, He's tough, but I don't know you know,
can that translate to a six foot one quarterback who
doesn't extend plays the way you would want your quarterback
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in today's game to be able to extend. So, whoever
was ranking him before, I don't know what they were
factoring in or not factoring in cam Ward, I get it.
Everybody talks about how strong his arm is. I get that.
Is that enough in this draft? It will be because
he's going to go probably in the top three. Normally
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he wouldn't, yeah, pulling any chance.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
This is the opposite what's being talked about that these
NFL teams are feigning disinterest in Shador Sanders in hopes
that he drops. If you're the Las Vegas Raiders, you
walk around the combine saying yet that he's not on
our radar.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Okay, but does Pete Carroll want a rookie quarterback? Let's
just look at team by team. If Pete Carroll wants
a veteran quarterback, you don't want to take a quarterback.
You want to get the right quarterback. You don't want
to go, hey, we need a quarterback, Let's take shaudor Sanders. Seventh. Overall,
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the Giants that coaching staff needs to win now or
they're going to get fired. Well, Aaron Rodgers gives you
a better chance than shardor Sanders, and probably cam Ward does.
Right now, Tennessee, if I'm Tennessee, I trade down. You
don't you need a quarterback, But let's get somebody who
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is going to be a great player for you, like
Abdul Carter. You want Travis Hunters, somebody you know is
going to be great, Yes, Mark, But.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Pete Carroll had Rocky Russell Wilson. So maybe if he
thinks Shard door Sanders would fit in his system, maybe
he'll go with him.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But he had a top five defense. He just needed
a quarterback who could be a little more athletic than
Matt Flynn. You know, the bar wasn't set too high there,
and Russ turned out to be a whole lot better
than you know, Pete probably even thought, and he I
wouldn't put, you know, out of the equation of bringing
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in Russell Wilson to Vegas. I think I think Pete
and Russ have mended their offences there. I think that
relationship was bad in Seattle. And you know, my source
said that it was going to be one or the
other had to go and of course Russell lost that one.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yeah, Pauli, Marvi and I were just saying, who's the
least Vegas quarterback.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
In the NFL.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Russell, wils Kirk Cousins, one seed, Yes Kirk Cousins. Yes,
Wilson is super Vegas.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well his wife will make him super Vegas.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Remember man, when we saw him in Miami. He's got
the chains, he's got the shades of Valor's shirt.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
He's modern day Vegas.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I thought he was trying to channel John Stamos when
we saw him in Miami with his hair and like
he was like, damn, what's going on?
Speaker 9 (15:16):
Russ?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And I was like, that's a makeover with your wife.
Sierra's got that written all over. Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
I still think though, teams like the New York Giants
and jackson not Jacksonville, the Raiders, the Jets, the Saints,
they're probably all playing it if they don't aren't interested
in that quarterback because there's not a lot to choose from.
Remember years ago, the Jacksonville Jaguars, they didn't even interview
Blake Bortles, and they acted like they weren't interested and
they just took him. Now, it worked out for a
little bit. But these teams have deeper strategies sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, but if once again they're looking at Shade or
Sanders and they're assessing what is real he's non athletic
in the face bet he's six to one. Oh wait,
what's the well, no teams are going to be stupid.
I mean somebody will be like, uh, she's right there, Well,
we're gonna take him.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
What would be the over under from where he's drafted.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
If I give you five and a half five and
a half over under pie to the face, would you
take pie to the face under five and a half?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Is anybody who want a piece of Paulie for piece
of pie? Shudoor Sanders goes in the top five, anybody
want a piece of that? Could be a trade. Somebody
trades crickets on the other side, crickets on the.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
If we would have done this bet, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
What, Paulie, I'll take you. I'll take you up on it.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
If we did this bet two weeks ago, everybody would
have said he's in the top yes, yes, so.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You got Shoudoor Sanders fifth or higher the over under
five and a half. The bet is who has he
will go within the Paulie has shudor going top five,
So the over under five and a half. If I
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made you guys bet on it, what would you take?
I would take the six six six. Oh yeah, yeah
I could. I could talk myself into jumping in on that. Marvin,
what about you? Yeah I could too, Paul Fritzi, Yeah,
six plus yeah, all right, I like it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Good times.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well, we we have to have one of these bets
every draft. What was the one we had last year?
Was it? Uh? Didn't didn't? Wasn't there a bet top
fifteen pick or dang Kenny Pickett? I think was a
few years ago that we did that one.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Yeah, Paul, he definitely did a number of quarterbacks in
round one last year. I think we had four and
a half or five and a half.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Oh man checking.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Okay, all right, let's let me take a break here,
let me take a break. We get more phone calls
coming up back after this Dan Patrick show.
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All right.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
The Eagles cut Darius Sleigh and it's one of those
where you go wow, but then you realize he's thirty four.
He wants to play one more year. They have a
really young secondary and he gets paid a lot of money.
He became expendable. Recapping the Kyrie Irving news. He's out
for the rest of the year. Torn acl This according
(19:35):
to ESPN Final Hour poll question Seaton, did you put
up something for the third hour?
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Yeah, we got one here to update you on. Being
franchise tagged is a black Big Mike, positive or negative?
Being franchise tagged is a positive or negative?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I would say a negative and lass I'm Kirk Cousins
and I get tagged, and then I get tagged, and
then I get signed a guaranteed contract after that. It
certainly worked out well for him. I don't think t
Higgins is thrilled that he got tagged by the Cincinnati Bengals. Again.
He wants to Yes, he wants to get a long
(20:22):
term deal. And now you hire Jamar Chase's agent, so
maybe you kind of go in there and you go,
let me negotiate for both of my clients here. But
Jamar Chase is going to get paid. Justin Jefferson, the
highest paid wide receiver. I believe if I'm Jamar Chase,
now you're going in and trying to negotiate with the
(20:45):
Bengals historically cheap. I'm asking for something that begins with
a four, and you could say I got you to
the super Bowl, and if the line had blocked Aaron Donald,
I might have won you the super Bowl. He's probably
gonna ask for that. And look, T Higgins got paid
(21:07):
a lot, like I think it's around twenty six twenty
seven million for the tag. That's one year. See that's
the problem. You know, you're you want guaranteed money, and
if you're a wide receiver, you know, just like a
running back, your days are numbered staying healthy. You want
to get as the kids say, the bag. T Higgins
(21:28):
didn't get it, So I would say not not a compliment. Yes, Marvin,
you know.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
I think sor right, because look, you get a big
bag for this year, but I know you want long term.
But if you're a Le'Veon Bell, would you have played
that season?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes, yes, but it's a good thing because you never
get that money back. You know he never got that
money back and.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
He had to go play for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yes, yes, you try to prove a point and it
didn't work. Cow. Well there, all right, a couple of
phone calls in here. Let's see how about Tracy and Georgia? Hi, Trace,
what's on your mind?
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Good morning, gentlemen in Fritzy. When you're having the discussion
about the most arrogant quarterbacks of all time, you're really
leaving off one of the one of the worst. In
my opinion, this guy gets a couple of stats. See
if we can't get a blue blue. This guy signed
the highest rookie contract ever. He threw forty six interceptions
on his way to forty one touchdowns, lost thirty five
(22:30):
of his first forty nine games, and that ineptitude was
only surpassed by his ability to be a grade A
number one A hole.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You guess me, Paulie.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I think I have this Jeff George blue bloo.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
All right, congratulations, Paulie knows a holes. Jeff George. Congratulations,
Jeff George. All you could throw a great depot. That's
the only whatever you say, Jeff George, they always go, man,
he could throw the deep ball on the prettier balls. Yeah,
(23:07):
Jeff George, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Lucas and Texas, Hi Luke, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Dan?
Speaker 12 (23:16):
Good morning, Good morning. I want to talk real quick
about shaduor Sanders, but I've got to compliment Eduardo from
a couple of hours ago. In a show that celebrates
left turns, I have not really heard of one that
made me stop and laugh harder than someone with a
deep voice like Paul Harvey. Like someone called earlier Paul
Harvey talking about various statey Eye of South America. Anyways,
(23:38):
I'd like to talk. I'm here to talk about Shador Sanders, like,
oh my gosh, it was an all timer. It was
like to be celebrated. But yeah, I mean, my two
cents on it is I agree with Peter King. This
is all a smoke show in a league, in a
professional environment that almost thrives on arrogance, Like I mean,
what twenty two year old think that they could take
(24:01):
over an NFL team and not be a little bit arrogant.
He feels like someone is just waiting to try to
get a little maneuvering place. And I agree, I think
the Raiders are a great spot. Brady was famously cocky, arrogant,
however you want to phrase it, and that's always been
the brand of the Raiders. This feels like a play
more than anything else. I lean more with Peter team
(24:23):
than the other two guests you guys have had. I
think he's right on the ball with it.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Okay, but you know, keep this in mind. This is
one coach who labeled Shador Sanders arrogant in brash. These
are two analysts who are looking at Shadoor Sanders not
as arrogant or brash, just his talent. So there's a
big difference here. If it's a smoke screen kind of
a fakes smear campaign. Okay, that's one thing. These are
(24:48):
analysts who are looking him as a football player, not
his personality. They're talking about he's only six to one,
he's not a great athlete. Does he have a big
time arm? So those are football questions, This isn't personality questions.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Yes, it's not exactly breaking news or a hot take
too to say either that just based on my own
lived experience, there is a sizeable percentage of children who
grow up with wealthy parents that are arrogant. I don't
know if people were aware of this or not, but
(25:25):
most wealthy kids are kids who come from wealthy parents.
By and large, fair to be a certain degree of arrogant.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I don't like this personality trait if you want to
call it, doesn't bother me because I have a friend.
The first time I met him, this is fifteen years ago,
he told me is IQ. It was one sixty two,
and I said to him, if you're that smart, shouldn't
I have been able to figure out that you're that smart?
(25:54):
Why did you have to tell me? But he is
extremely arrogant, cocky, confident, but he does want to be wrong.
So sr. Door Sanders might be arrogant, might be cocky,
but he he doesn't He's not going to let himself
be embarrassed. He's he's gonna be great, or at least
that's his mindset. You want to be great. You don't
(26:14):
want to put yourself out there and have somebody go, oh,
you're supposed to be great or you're supposed to be smart.
There's people who are like that that they still you
may not like their personality, but that's who they are
and they don't want to be wrong. Shir Door Sanders,
he's got money, an I l came from money with
his father. Maybe he's going in with you know, an
(26:38):
entitled you know kind of persona. I understand it, but
that you know, if you're arrogant or brash or cocky
or whatever, let me see how you play. I don't
care what you say. I care how you play.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Yeah, Paul, If you play well, your personality is a positive.
If you play poorly, it's a negative. Jay Cutler was
kind of the thard and disinterested, but when he played well,
he wasn't. And then when he started playing poorly for
the Bears, he was that. If you look at Joe Montana,
you met Joe, he seems casual, not fired up raw rah.
But nobody ever said anything about his demeanor. His demeanor
(27:15):
was cool because he won.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Robin Orlando, Hi, Rob, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Hey Dan, Good afternoon. Good chat with you guys again.
Multi time caller, long time listener five eleven, two oh six. Yeah.
I don't want to overachieve, under achieve. I just want
to be average. I'm the shoot hour Sanders thing you
guys are talking about, you know, And and here draft
analysts talk about his skill set. He might have been
(27:42):
the sixth seventh pick last year in the draft, six
seven quarterback come out of the draft last year, And
I think that's really the rob So combine that with
the side was going to be potentially him and his father.
I think teams that are like borderline on them aren'
gonna want to deal with that.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It might be, you know, they may find out that
Chardoor doesn't want to go to the Cleveland Browns. Maybe
the Cleveland Browns don't want Shardoor. And I think what
happened is we got caught up in oh Dion's going
to steer him where he wants to and you know,
is he gonna want to go to the Tennessee Titans
or the Jets or they may not want him for
(28:21):
all we know. But Dion, when he joined me at
the Super Bowl said he's already reached out to some
teams to talk to them.
Speaker 12 (28:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't know if it's you better take him or
you better not take him, but he's already started that process.
He may just be overrated because he should. Door Sanders
and we saw him he was at Colorado. I just
know what I saw on the field. He's a good quarterback,
tough quarterback. But once again we're talking there's a lot
(28:53):
of really good quarterbacks in college. There's only a few
really really good quarterbacks in the NFL. Is he capable
of being that kind of quarterback? Is he a Teddy Bridgewater,
which is not a bad career, but not a franchise quarterback,
similar skill set. Probably not a big guy, not particularly elusive,
(29:18):
but stayed. You know, Jacoby Brissett, I mean, I don't
know an he's six' one two or six one and a. Half,
okay that's a knock as. Well BUT i think in
TODAY'S nfl they're probably. Looking you, know it used to
be these cookie. Cutters you had to be six four
(29:39):
or six,' five you had to have a, big arm
you had to be strong in. The pocket those days are.
LONG gone, I Mean matthew stafford is. A Dinosaur Even,
JARED goff, I Mean josh allen is, that size but
he has that the athleticism of any other quarterback Except.
For lamar, You, know kyler we're still not Sure. About
(30:04):
russ we're still not sure about after all these years
we were and then. We WEREN'T now i don't know
where we are. With it but, you know looking for,
your quarterback you know, the size, arm strength can you
can you extend? A play can you get? A First
patrick mahomes was not known as a great Athlete At texas.
(30:26):
TECH people i don't KNOW if i ever read anything where, they,
go man that guy, can run, it was he can throw,
the ball and then what, you know one of his
great attributes is extending a. Play running every one of
these quarterbacks you. NEED it i don't care If It's,
(30:47):
Geno Smith. Trevor lawrence at some point you need your
quarterback to extend a play or beat you with. His
legs and that's not something should. Or does can you
say he's going to stay in. The pocket and he
may Be A geno smith kind, of quarterback which nothing wrong.
With that gino's starting and, you know really resuscitated. HIS
(31:09):
career i just don't Know if shador is a. Great quarterback,
maybe good but is that. Good enough Let's see James In. Salt, Lake,
hi james what's on? Your? Mind?
Speaker 13 (31:24):
Okay dan how, you?
Speaker 12 (31:25):
Doing brother how you?
Speaker 9 (31:26):
Been?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Great james?
Speaker 14 (31:28):
Good man i'm.
Speaker 13 (31:29):
GLAD man i love, YOUR show i love.
Speaker 12 (31:31):
YOUR vibe i love what.
Speaker 13 (31:31):
Y'all, do man thank you.
Speaker 12 (31:33):
For that just, real.
Speaker 13 (31:35):
QUICK man i know y'all haven't said much about the
tink gave, this fight but is this guy WITH the wwe.
THE ref, i mean this guy got to talk to,
his mom he was Looking, for floyd and then he
didn't even get. A count this would have been a
perfect Time for johnsena to come out and. GO rogue
i can't, Believe, IT dan i don't know. WHAT'S up i,
love boxing but how did this guy not get a
count and.
Speaker 12 (31:55):
Got his face?
Speaker 13 (31:55):
Wiped off he was able to do whatever he wanted
and then the, ref's like are?
Speaker 14 (31:58):
You okay?
Speaker 12 (31:59):
You're good you want?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
To far, but yeah, all right well Thank. You james
maybe a. Left turn eduardo said that that was a. Left,
turn uh let's take a. Break here did you follow, That.
FIGHT marvin i saw a couple of stories, on IT
BUT i.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
I just saw Videos, on TWITTER but i didn't.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
See, anything yeah? In, DETAIL yeah I mean i was
too caught Up In john cena. TURNING heel, I mean
i can't.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Even believe. It's Unbelievable After, hulk hogan this is the
biggest heel turning in the head.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Is unbelievable it. Is, unbelievable, Yeah, yes paul.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
The Fight Was tank Davis Versus lamont Roach And tank
davis he got something from his hair into his eyes
and it affected his vision and he took like a
time out during a, live ROUND which i think confused
people because they didn't know there was timeouts, in BOXING
because i don't think, There, are, uh okay but the.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Ref let them take.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
A break i saw a. Fight recently uh it WAS
the ufc where the guy went to tap the gloves of,
his opponent, you know to you kind of come out and,
you tap, you know it's like it's like.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
He.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Suckered, him yeah he. Dropped him he dropped him in
his seven Seconds. Bush lee, it's, like yeah tap and then,
he tabbed put his, hand boom. Seven, Seconds, yes marvin
protect yourself at. All times, Thank. You marvin let's take.
A break last call for? Phone calls what? We learn
what's in? Store tomorrow, after this.
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Phone calls what? We learn what's in?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Store Tomorrow nicks warriors tonight At the garden Over Under. Jalen,
Brunson marvin i'll start.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
With you it's twenty five and.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
A half paul twenty six and. A, Half Whoop.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Steph curry over under tonight Against The knicks.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Todd thirty two and, A half seatan twenty seven and,
A half paul twenty four and, A half marvin twenty
nine and, a half.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Twenty six and, A Half, Jalen Brunson steph curry both
twenty six and. A half i'll go Over For. Jalen
brunson feels like you're supposed to go Over For. Steph
curry How About Pelicans lakers luca Over under.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Paul the twenty seven and, A half.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Marvin twenty six and, A half todd thirty and, A
half seatan twenty eight and.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
A half bloop bloop bloop Over Under, Lebron james paul.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Twenty three and, A half marvin twenty five and, A
half todd twenty six and.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
A half.
Speaker 14 (34:53):
WOOP bloopo i gotta play the game.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Sometimes twenty six and a Half, For lebron Steph And.
Jalen brunson, all right this day in, Sports, history paul
what do you have?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
For me he's got a couple, for you. This one in,
nineteen Thirteen The New york yankees Traveled to bermuda for,
spring practice as they. Called it they were the first
team to leave the country from.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
To train.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
The v foundation formed in nineteen ninety three And In
new york nineteen, ninety three the first Ever esp awards.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Were held you, Were, THERE yes i was after party.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Pretty good uh they have, Those back yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
They. Did yeah certain members of management always made sure
that we had a. GOOD party i remember that we,
LAUNCHED well i don't want to get too, many DETAILS
but i remember a member of management fell out of,
a car a parked car in the. Parking lot he
(35:50):
had been, over served but, you know he. Wasn't driving
that was the, good thing but kind of spilled out
of his car or. SOMEBODY'S car i, Should, say ah
the good, old days.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
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Monet hi how are?
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You?
Speaker 15 (36:12):
Great, abby oh thank you so much for taking. MY
call i am a first, time Caller so i'm a,
bit nervous but please bear.
Speaker 9 (36:19):
With me.
Speaker 12 (36:21):
This is a little.
Speaker 15 (36:21):
OFF topic i know that you guys at one point
were planning a Trip, to iowa And so i'm just
reaching out on behalf of a couple of businesses Here
In des moines that would love to, host you whether
that's for recording or just. A visit so we are
part Of The crescent building and we have a, popular
brewery locally sourced, meat shop a creative, production studio and
(36:43):
a popular brunch spot all under. One roof so we'd
love you to have you over to even come on
A meat friday where you could get the smoker out
at the brewery and we could have the good butcher
who is our local butcher shop bring in. To me
and then if you needed a place, to court we
have a trailick studio which is in the, same building
a thousand foot downstage which is all set up with
(37:06):
little large cycle and say, our LADY so i have
everything Might, need abby.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Thank you we've had some People From des moines who've
reached out ALREADY and i think talking about some of
the places that you've. Brought up but we are still
planning on Going. To. Iowa uh, in fact we've talked
about it almost on a. Weekly basis we'll let you
know when we're going and where we're going to be
in the different cities that we're going to try. To
(37:33):
hit it's sort of, like uh, you know presidential CAMPAIGN barnstorming,
i guess, you know they would do it, by train
where they'd be in the, you know coming through on
a train. And waving, but yeah, you know there's some
things to. Work out, but yes we are planning on Going. To,
Iowa uh David. In La, hi david what's on your? Mind?
Speaker 16 (37:54):
Today HID and i wanted to reference your father's innovative
thinking in the area for ball analytics because it reminds
me of something press here my own father came up
with in the. NINETEEN seventies i remember him describing and
even sketching out this concept that would use ground level
cameras moving.
Speaker 13 (38:14):
Up and down the sidelines on.
Speaker 16 (38:16):
A, fixed rail precisely measuring ball spots and doing away with. First,
starantams now, you know who knows how this would have
played out with coaches tripping over it or fans who
liked the drama of. A MEASUREMENT but i, was thinking
imagine if our two visionary fathers got together and perfected
their respective ideas and they stayed of REVOLUTIONIZED the nfl
(38:37):
fifty years ahead of.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Its, time well, Thank. You, david yeah a lot of
Reaction that sean McVay was on yesterday and his grandfather
was the coach At the University. Of dayton my dad
was in computer science and this is back in the
late sixties, early seventies and he wanted to help the,
football team so he asked coach McVeigh to give him
all the information on their opponents and what their. Tendencies
(39:01):
were he was trying to, figure out, you know what they,
would call, you know third, and eight what they would
call if it was, you know first, and ten what
plays would? They run and he put it into a
computer and then, you know it's probably one of the
first football analytics that was. EVER invented, i guess lack
(39:21):
of a, better word but he thought the computers were.
The future we didn't see it at, you know all
of my brothers, and sisters but obviously he. Was right
and with the analytics. As well where would we be, Without,
analytics well some WOULD say i wish we were. Without
analytics Don't Get michael wilbon started, on this, but yeah
(39:45):
thank you for the reaction. To that let Me see
terry And. San, Diego hi Terry.
Speaker 14 (39:53):
Hie dan first. Time caller thanks for. HAVING me i
really appreciate. Your Show, SADUR sanders i really feel like
he's a social media influencer draft pick because he doesn't make,
decisions fast and you looked. At it, you know the
first played with a bad. Offensive line he was getting
(40:14):
killed and until he had like three or five seconds,
to throw he. Was horrible he's, not fast he doesn't
make decisions Quickly Like. BAKER mayfield i don't understand how
this quarterback that would rather take a sack than throw
a risky ball or throw it away to pat his
satz is getting so. MUCH hype i feel like there
are teams trying to trick other teams into. Drafting him.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
IT'S crazy, i well, ONCE again i didn't hear, any
negatives of very, few negatives and now all of, a
sudden That's all i've heard, negatives now and then there,
might be, you know a groundswell for the other side
to come back and talk about all the, great things
and then he has his pro day. As, well todd
would you learn today.
Speaker 12 (40:56):
What made me perceived as arrogance or brash behavior to
one person could be great confidence with a little cockiness to.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Another seat it's that time, of, Year, rumors marvin.
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You Said kirk cousins will be an. Expensive mentor paul always.
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Protect yourself most cars on the road could use A.
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Estimate today, uh oh Better. Get mako thanks for the, phone,
calls emails tweets and To, you eduardo. Thank you have a.
Great day
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