September 2, 2026 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox
sports radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final hour on this Wednesday, Paulie's getting ready for not
so fast coming up after this show at noon Eastern with, uh,
Andrew McLovin Perloff. So big day Ray, who is also
the producer of the gambling podcast is sitting in Paul's chair.
Gambling podcast. We'll have that later today for you. Apparently the, uh,
(00:28):
Shea and Irving, giving you a recap of the Penn
State cocaine ring, kind of got a lot of attention
on social media. Ray, do we have numbers on that?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So it originally started, it got 75,000 views in 17 hours.
It's at 90,000 now, and people are very split on
whether Shea is correct or not correct.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I don't know what Shea was trying to do. I
think he was saying, how could you get caught? This
is what you needed to do if you were going
to continue this cocaine ring at Penn State. Also, Shea
had some strong commentary about Jed York of the 49ers
of advice that he would have given him to avoid
being arrested in a trailer park. Shea said, I can
(01:14):
identify with both of those situations. Who knows what's coming
up today on Dan Patrick Takes a Gamble?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yeah, Shay's really honed in on the 9.30 a.m. part
of the Jed York story, which I have to agree
that does sort of become the most curious part about
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Shay had a whole idea, script, logic well thought out.
He said, Danny, I've been in that situation. I can
identify with him. And then we had the students at
Penn State and, of course, it kind of exploded social
media wise where everybody was critiquing Shea and Irving and
(01:57):
his take on what happened with both of those situations.
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Speaker 4 (02:46):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Also, NBC Sports Now. Download the app if you'd like
to watch the program. The heroic gesture of Fritzie back
again with a bandage on his hand, still trying to
type one-handed.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yes, Todd, you're good?
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I feel good.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I'm getting the bandage off right after the show.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Oh, good.
Speaker 9 (03:03):
And then I have a series of neurotic questions to
ask about if I can go back to the gym,
if I can get my hand wet, what I can
and can't do. If there's a certain injection I can
take or is it going to cause an infection?
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Do I have to wait in a week before taking
a B12 shot? Lots of questions.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Are there any stitches?
Speaker 8 (03:18):
Yes, there will be stitches. I'm going to have to
go back in a couple of weeks to get the
stitches out.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Really incredible.
Speaker 8 (03:22):
But here we are.
Speaker 10 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Really incredible. I feel very proud.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
I just missed that one day.
Speaker 9 (03:26):
Although if it happened to you, you would have missed
maybe like 20 minutes of the show that same day.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I would have had the doctor come in and do
the surgery while I was doing the show.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
While doing an interview with one of your illustrious guests.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Do you remember when I had to get a physical,
a blood test for a life insurance policy with people
who were my bosses a long, long time ago. So
we were just starting the Dan Patrick show and we
were in Chicago. And I remember the guy who was
helping finance this so we could do the show said,
(03:59):
you've got to, you know, I need a blood test here,
life insurance policy. I was on the air getting a
blood test And, you know, I don't do well with needles,
but I had to get the blood test because they
had to get this insurance policy.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
So I did that in real time.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's heroic there, Todd.
Speaker 8 (04:18):
It is. I have no comeback to that.
Speaker 9 (04:20):
I had no business missing the entire three hours on Monday.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
I got my wisdom tooth pulled, and I came back
the same day.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
That was pretty good. That one's pretty good. Like Kirk Gibson.
I think I got knee surgery on Friday, came back Monday.
Speaker 11 (04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
How about that one, Marvin?
Speaker 7 (04:40):
No, you win.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I don't want to win.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Are you tired of winning?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm tired of winning. If that's winning, I think I
had my shoulder done. I always try to get something
done on Friday after the show and then try to
come in on Monday.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
So you're not a needle guy. When you do get
blood taken, are you like an eyes closed?
Speaker 10 (05:01):
Do you look away? Do you look directly at it
and try?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
No, look away.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And I need to talk. I need to talk to
the nurse. And then even going through stem cell, and
that would be, first time I went, it was five
days of getting hooked up to an IV. And then
the last time I went, it was three days. But still,
you know, it's coming. It's just a pinch, as they
always say. But I can't look at it. And I'll
(05:29):
be just, I talk faster than Todd does. When I'm
talking to the nurse, I'm asking everything, anything. I just like,
all right, yeah, okay, yeah, okay. How far do you
live from, okay, and your husband, you know. And then
it's like a little pinch, and I'd be like, ah.
And then I release that little rubber ball, and then,
all right, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, still.
Speaker 10 (05:50):
Is it just the needle or is it like the
blood that bothers you?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
It's the needle. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's the anticipation where you're like, And then you're fine.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
It's one thing to win to be uncomfortable. They have
that vaso-vaso reaction, if I'm saying it right. It happens
to my wife and there's a few other people I
know where they have a good chance of passing out.
Either once they see the needle or once it's inserted,
they actually go out. And they have to have someone
standing by to help wake you up safely.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
No, it happened to me twice, Todd.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
It's very scary. Did you know it was called vaso-vago?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Vaso-vase, I think. And I tell anybody who is going
to put a needle in me that I've passed out before.
And once, well, both times, both people went, you weren't lying.
I go, who would lie about passing out? It's the
most unmanly thing that you could possibly do.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I passed out.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I was doing life insurance policy, and I fell right
into the guy's lap. And then the other one, I
was going to have hand surgery, and they were putting
a needle in me.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Boom, passed out. I woke up.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Put a cold compress, and the nurse goes, you weren't lying.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I go, why would I lie?
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Yes, Marvin. First of all, don't look at me again
when you say I had hand surgery. You're trying to
apply something?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
They were reducing my hand size is what they were doing.
It was hand reduction surgery.
Speaker 10 (07:16):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
The last couple of times I've had a physical where
I've had to get blood drawn, I've only been able
to make the appointments at like 2.30 in the afternoon
just because that's what's available. And the blood draw place
is always closed for lunch at that time. So I
have to go do the physical, which is like 15 minutes.
They're like, Hey, you should get less fat, whatever. And
then walk across. And then I'm like, Oh my God,
(07:41):
the thing's close. And then I have to sit there
for 45 minutes when it's just like, all you want
to do is just get it over with, like stick
the thing in, take the blood, let me go home.
And you just have to sit there and wait. Cause
I don't love, I don't love the needle part either.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
It's a pizza Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
Yeah, pizza Wednesday.
Speaker 10 (07:58):
Was that a Todd story?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, kind of. I think Todd is kind of wearing
off on you.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
You said the anticipation is the killer. And I was like, yeah,
you have to do it every time. But the anticipation
of you finishing your story is also a killer. What
pizzas do we have?
Speaker 10 (08:20):
I don't even care anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I do.
Speaker 10 (08:23):
Todd does. We have hot Italian sausage pizza, Dan.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (08:27):
Your New Haven-style tomato pie.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 10 (08:30):
Some parmigiana. And Todd's world-famous classic cheese pizza.
Speaker 12 (08:34):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Who is it better than we do?
Speaker 8 (08:36):
Nobody.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
All righty.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Fresh in Milwaukee. Fresh, thanks for holding. Robert Griffin Jr.
III will join us in about 20 minutes from now.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Hi, Fresh.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
What's up, D.P.
Speaker 11 (08:47):
And Danettes? How are you guys doing today? great. Oh,
I've got a quick question, but I'm gonna throw a
couple of names on the fire to get it going.
Speaker 9 (08:57):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (08:58):
Kurt Warner, John Randall, Warren moon, Adam than a theory.
Who is the greatest undrafted player in NFL history?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Um, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I did James Harrison. I don't think he was drafted either. Um,
Is there a wrong answer there? They're Hall of Famers.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Dick Night Train Lane, I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Think, was drafted.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
He was a Hall of Famer as well. But thank you, Fresh. What, Marvin?
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Sorry, DP. Warren Moon, when you told me he went
to Washington, it was astounding. You were like, oh, he
won the Rose Bowl. I'm sorry, you need to get drafted?
Speaker 12 (09:44):
I know.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I was like, boy.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
The racism was through the roof, DP.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
That was wild.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That was embarrassing that they didn't think he could run
a pro style offense. Uh, moon moon had, he threw
one of the best deep balls I've ever seen. He's
on the top five list in my opinion. Um, but
you know, he's a hall of famer, but I had
to go, I think he won five gray cups. He, he,
he went to Edmonton, uh, Antonio Gates. He wasn't drafted.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 9 (10:15):
According to our friends at Chad GPT, the names for
their top five anyway, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, John Randall.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
Dick Night Train Lane, Adam Vinatieri come up as the
top five.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, they're all Hall of Famers there. Tripp in Vegas.
Speaker 13 (10:29):
Hi, Tripp.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Hey, good morning, DP. Always good to speak with y'all.
Speaker 13 (10:33):
I had a few things, actually three things from the
podcast last night that I found entertaining. When Todd was
talking about Tuesday, he was coming to work inside of
his 24-hour frame. He said he had to drive slower
and he could pull over if needed. First of all,
I don't think that's possible from the left lane. And
then he's so cheap that when he gets a hamburger,
he orders Thousand Island dressing and uses his garnishes to
(10:55):
make a side salad. And finally, the most obvious thing
was this. Let's see, when you're talking about oral and
rectal thermometers, I think the biggest difference would be the taste.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Y'all have a good day.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
Fair point. Didn't think of that. Nobody likes Vaseline on
their tongue.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
It's kind of nasty. They don't.
Speaker 10 (11:16):
I don't think the Vaseline was the issue.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Oh, that was my mom taking me in my brother's temperature.
We're in high school. We're not going to do the
record for mom.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
John in Florida.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
Hi, John.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
What do you have for him? The Toddcast is available
at danpatrick.com. Hi, John.
Speaker 14 (11:31):
DP, thanks for taking my call. Six feet. Happy 250.
When I called in, I just wanted to let you
know that I hate it when people call into a
show like yours and all they can do is sit
there and tell the story. the host, how much they
love them, and, you know, I mean, just go on
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and on and on. But I'll tell you, DP, the
truth is, after you went in the confessional this morning,
I couldn't resist to call you and tell you, when
you said that your show wasn't all about sports, there
was more, well, it is more. And it's more to
a lot of people for a lot of reasons. Because
you don't talk about just sports. You talk about people
(12:16):
and the things that... that either make us happy or
make us sad. And I think you guys, all of you,
I think you do a real good job of making
us feel good out here, even on maybe a bad day.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, John, thank you. This is just a show. I
think that's the beauty of it is I wanted to
be that. I don't know what the topics are going
to be, but if, We do have a topic. Hopefully
we present it in a way that gets a reaction
out of you. That's what I want. I want you
(12:53):
invested in the show. There are times when I'm probably
selfish that I want to talk about something. But if
you bought into me and this show, then you allow
me to do that. And I appreciate that. And I
do have a platform and I want to take advantage
of the platform. I played it safe for a long, long, long, long,
long time. And I was probably cowardly in that I
(13:17):
know I'm being a little too tough on myself, but
I was cowardly in not talking about some of these issues.
And I promised you when I started, we're not going
to be talking about politics and religion, because you can
find that anywhere. There are times when it bleeds into
what we do or what we're covering, and I try
to acknowledge it, but that's just not my playground.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
That's not where I want to be.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But there are things that I share from a husband's perspective,
a father's perspective, or somebody who's been in sports for
over 40 years. And to be able to do that
and share with you and vice versa is very, very rewarding.
And hopefully it's good radio, good TV. Scott in Jacksonville.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Hi, Scott. What do you have for me today?
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Good morning, Dan.
Speaker 11 (14:09):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Good, Scott.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
What do you have for me?
Speaker 15 (14:12):
I just caught some of the interview you did with
Ryan Leaf. And I just got to say, I've got
33 years plus sobriety. And every time I hear him
speak about how it applied to him, when he said
it wasn't the pills, it was a me problem, that
(14:34):
really hit home with me. And I've met a lot
of people in the program, and I've never heard anybody
speak like him. I've never heard anybody who gets it
like he does. And I just want to have, just
want to thank you for having him on again.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Thank you, Scott.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I appreciate Ryan willing to share, but he said, you know,
you kind of find out about yourself when you go
through these dips and he was a failure and he
started to self-medicate. You're breaking into people's houses. Like he's,
he's in jail. You go from being a Heisman Trophy finalist,
(15:15):
the number two pick in the draft, and you're on
a prison floor. And you're wondering, how did I get here?
But he shares. And that's what I want. Now, look,
he admitted, and I even brought it up to him
when he was here last hour. I said, you lied
to me in Indianapolis. He said, I did. Because I
(15:36):
wanted to take him at his word. But I knew
that he was still using Vicodin. But I wanted to
take him at his word. And I remember saying to Paulie,
I said, Ryan Leaf is lying to us. He goes,
don't say anything. I go, I'm not. I'm letting you
know that if he does try to bring this up,
you tell him that I know what he's doing. And
(15:59):
if you're not fooling me, you're not fooling a lot
of people. And he admitted that a half hour ago.
He said, yes, I was trying to deceive you. And
I said, I thought something was up. But the last
thing I wanted to do was accuse you of still
taking Vicodin.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
And you weren't.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But I could tell. And he said, I appreciate that.
He had to do it on his own terms. But man,
the people who self-medicate, you think that nobody notices. You're
the last one to know that we've noticed. But we notice.
All right, we'll take a break. Robert Griffin Jr. III
(16:40):
will join us coming up next, Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 4 (17:22):
Spring and Robert Griffin, Jr., the third.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He'll serve as the honorary captain for his Baylor Bears
this Saturday in Atlanta when they take on the Auburn Tigers.
Look at you going out there, honorary captain. What does
that mean? You just walk out to the middle of
the field?
Speaker 16 (17:40):
I think that's what it means, Dan. You know, they
got Cam Newton on the other side, you know, all
six footers. funny hats. We'll see how that matchup goes,
but it looks like it's going to be a pretty
interesting game. The Peach Bowl reached out, asked me to
do this as part of the athletic kickoff game.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I'm excited.
Speaker 16 (18:00):
I'm excited for Baylor this year, especially with DJ Lagway
getting a chance to come home, go to his dad's school,
and try to make his own mark and revive his
career as a potential first-round quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
When you're around Cam Newton and you're like, that's just different.
You know, Robert, when you go, he's a quarterback and
he's as big as, I mean, physically imposing. I just,
and I, and he might've had the greatest individual season
a quarterback's ever had in college.
Speaker 11 (18:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We talked about this before. Like, is it, is it
Cam Newton or is it Joe Burrow?
Speaker 16 (18:37):
Um, you know what Cam was able to do in
one year, basically just one year of college football was extraordinary. Um,
You know, I look at Cam, he looks like Julius Peppers,
you know, when you walk next to him. So like,
it's just, it's hard to imagine like this guy was,
was a quarterback, you know, the way that he's built.
I don't know if you guys remember like a couple
of years ago, some guys tried to jump him.
Speaker 11 (18:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Like a seven on seven tournament.
Speaker 13 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (19:01):
And I did like a reenactment, like a reaction to
that video. And I'm like, y'all better bring more people
because this guy, this guy, it's going to take at
least seven small human beings to try to take down
this one behemoth of a man.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
The position, though, I don't like it's evolved where you
could be smaller, run around a little bit. Fran Tarkington,
you know, back in the day. But is there a
prototypical quarterback? Because we went through those stages where we
needed to have somebody with six, four, six, five pocket passer.
And where would you say we are today with the
(19:36):
if you want to call it evolution of the position?
Speaker 16 (19:40):
Yeah, I think there is no size, height, weight prototype anymore.
I mean, you got Kyler Murray, who's like 5'3, starting
for the Minnesota Vikings. You know, when I was playing,
obviously you had Brady and Manning in the 6'4, 6'5, range.
But I think what it comes down to, if if
you go out to like a local high school, you know,
(20:01):
like an advanced level seven on seven program, you know,
which we have here in Houston called RG3 seven on seven.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
And you watch those quarterbacks throw the ball.
Speaker 16 (20:12):
It's not a matter of who can make the throws anymore.
The quarterback position is so advanced the way that they
work through everything. I've got high schoolers right now that
are more advanced than I was throwing the football my
second year in college. So I think what it comes
down is two things. One is the mental makeup of
decision making. And then two, does the coach.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Believe in you?
Speaker 16 (20:31):
Because they're going to give you more opportunities when they
believe in you as you get into the league. But
you can be 5'3, like Kyler Murray. You can be 6'5,
like Cam Newton. As long as the coach believes you
and puts a system in place that you can run
at a high level, I don't think there's a prototypical
size weight for the quarterback anymore. And I think that's
why it's made developing quarterbacks in the such a hard line.
(20:56):
You have to be aligned completely from the head coach, GM, ownership,
everybody in the building has to be bought in on
that one guy. And me and you know, that's really
hard to do no matter what industry you're in is
to get everybody on the same page.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I've been leading the crusade for years now, and maybe
I'm fighting a losing battle. I still think having a
quarterback under center gives you a better opportunity of disguising things,
deception with the defense. You know, uh, if you're going
to do play action, I'll buy into play action. If
(21:30):
you're under center, there's no play action if you're in
the gun. So it feels like there's some NFL teams
that are now using it more.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Why is that? Um, one, I, I agree with you.
Speaker 16 (21:44):
It's easier to fold defense when you go, when you
go on the center, um, the time between you, uh,
showing that fake in the run game, snapping it back.
There's just more time on task and more time between
the play-action fake and the actual plays that you're running
for the defense to be fooled. I think because a
(22:07):
guy like myself, when you have a quarterback who is
a true dual-threat, triple-threat quarterback, beat you with his arm, leg,
and his mind, that's when you can really utilize gun runs.
But Like, I love Joe Burrow, and I think Joe
Burrow is a dual threat quarterback in the sense that
he's a decent scrambler. But no one's really afraid of
(22:28):
him running a zone read. You know, it doesn't put
the same stress on the defense as when Lamar Jackson
does it, when I did it, when Jalen Hurts did it,
when Cam Newton did it.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
It's just a different level.
Speaker 16 (22:40):
So I think it really applies to the quarterback that
you have under center because then you can play action
out of the gun because they're afraid of him running.
majority of the quarterbacks right now in the league do
have athleticism, but they don't have the athleticism like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
When he gets to the second level, you know, he's,
he's out the gate.
Speaker 16 (23:00):
And I think that's the true difference between gun runs
and gun play action and under center. You can just
do more there and you can disguise more and you
can put the defense in a bind to where they
don't have one and a half seconds to react, but there's,
here's a three second play action where, Now you're having
to cover for six.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
To seven seconds. That's why I think it's effective.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
He's RG3, Fox College football analyst, out of pocket with
RG3 podcast and a Heisman winner at Baylor in 2011.
If there was the NIL and transfer portal, would you
have stayed at Baylor?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I like to think.
Speaker 16 (23:38):
Dan, that I would have stayed at Baylor because they
would have saw the value of having a young man
who was a freshman All-American and and, you know, opened
up the the pocketbook to keep a guy. And that's
why I don't blame some of the newer age guys
that bounce around a little bit, because they're trying to
take care of their families. And if the current school
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doesn't see them that way and isn't willing to pay them,
you know, I think within one hundred thousand of what
another school is willing to pay them.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
They should leave. You know, I've told this story multiple times.
I think I've told it to you as well.
Speaker 16 (24:11):
But Mack Brown tried to get me to transfer to
Texas after my freshman year at Baylor on the field
when they beat us 42 to 20 because he felt like,
you know, halftime was 20 to 20. And he felt
like they missed out on recruiting me because they offered
me as a safety.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Well, you and you and Manziel, didn't they both?
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (24:31):
Well, they were going to make a defensive backs. They're
going to make us defensive backs. And he said, you
can transfer now. But, you know, back then you had
to sit out two years if you transferred. So it
was like, wasn't a real thing. But I just think
the schools that have these players that develop them, If
you want to keep them, then I think that you
you should open up your your pocketbooks to keep them
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instead of complaining and saying, oh, well, this school is
going to pay him this amount of money.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It's like, well, what do you want your legacy to be?
You want to be your legacy.
Speaker 16 (25:00):
You want your legacy to be the coach of the
team that allowed your best player to go play at
Miami or go play at Texas. I'm sure if they
pay them the same that those schools would pay them,
they'd stay. And they would have a better legacy. So
that's a long way of saying I think Baylor would
have seen the value in offering me the money that
that would have made me.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Stay at the university. Who was paying the most, though,
under the table? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 16 (25:25):
So I, you know, I never got paid under the table.
I got a free pizza one time in college and
compliance found me two days later and made me go.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Pay for it. So that was wild.
Speaker 16 (25:36):
But shout out to Baylor Compliance. Appreciate y'all not letting
a brother get a free pizza.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
They didn't give you didn't get a car. No, not
a car. Nothing.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
I know.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
This is why you're great at your job, man. I
love you.
Speaker 16 (25:50):
I know for a fact that the SEC was paying
the most under the table. But my my own understanding
was that there were two teams outside the SEC that
were paying a lot of guys under the table. And
it was Stanford and Florida State. How much money are
we talking about? You're talking hundreds of thousands per player.
So they were spending millions already back then. Doing it
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in unique ways, I won't get into all that, not
trying to get sued.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, you can give me a for instance of how
can I pay you other than here you go, here's money,
or I'm going to give this to mom.
Speaker 16 (26:25):
Yeah, well, I know one of the schools, I'm not
going to be too specific, but one of the schools
was having– the players had bank accounts and those bank
accounts were set up by the school. So if they
say they win, say Florida State beats Florida or Stanford
beats USC, they would miraculously have $ 100, 000 in a bank account.
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And that was the way that they were able to
funnel money to the players without it being like true
cash passing hands. Some other schools also set up like
summer internships where you're not technically allowed to be paid
but they would pay them in that way. And when the,
when the NCAA is not truly paying attention, it's very
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easy for those schools to kind of get through the
cracks and do those types of things. So when I
hear a lot of people right now in our industry
talking about, oh, it's the.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Wild, wild West and this guy didn't pay. I'm like, guys,
it was always, it was always the wild, wild West.
Speaker 16 (27:22):
It's just now everyone can do it legally and, And
it's eroded the, how would you say, the depth of
a lot of these teams. I know you watch the
USC game. They're winning 35-3 against San Jose State, absolutely
blowing them out. The second the backups get in the game,
it's like, whoa, what happened? And that's every team in
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college football right now, and that's why we have so
much parity.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, I laugh when I hear that nobody gets– they're
getting paid under the table even now.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Because I can give you this on top. but I'm
going to give you the, like, look at, you know,
Kawhi Leonard with the Clippers. If it's true, Hey, you're
going to get this amount of money. We're going to
give you some, you know, phantom jobs here.
Speaker 16 (28:10):
Listen, Shaq Shaq came out and said that when he
signed with the Lakers, they gave him a deal where they,
they also baked in like $ 20 million worth of movie roles.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
So like, like, come on, you.
Speaker 16 (28:23):
Know, I watched just am and all that stuff. Like, like,
come on, you know, this is, this has been going
on for a long time. And I'll be honest with you.
I had heard the stories before I went to college in,
in 2008. And one of my teammates, Jason Smith, you
probably remember him. He got drafted by the Ram second overall.
He told me when we were going to play against
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Texas A & M, my, my freshman year in college,
he said, Hey, if we win this game, make sure
you go back to your apartment and be ready for
like a bag of money to be there. If we
win this game, it's our biggest rival. So lo and behold,
we beat Texas A & M my freshman year. I
am high tailing it back to the, to the apartment room.
I'm like, Oh my God, this is going to be great.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Nothing was there.
Speaker 16 (29:08):
And Jason Smith was in the parking lot filming me laughing.
So like these, it was a known thing that these
types of things could happen. You know, I don't think
Jason ever had anything happen for him, but like, You know,
if you got to be you'd have to be really
in a great place financially as a young man coming
into college to not.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Be like, yeah, I'll take that car. Yeah, I'll take
that job. Yeah, I'll take that.
Speaker 16 (29:31):
And anyone that tells you that they wouldn't is lying
to your face like Dajon Love.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
You know, how did that happen that a guy is
convincing women? that he's on the Niners and he's carrying
his helmet with him all the time, Robert?
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I mean, he was a caricature of an NFL player.
Speaker 16 (29:50):
And I've just never seen any NFL player have that
much time on his hands. You know, like if we're
being honest, football players like Dan, like yourself, you're one
of the best in the industry at what you do.
You just don't have a ton of time on your
hands to be hanging out on social media and giving
TED Talks on what you should do financially. And, you know,
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the guy had like 27 homes.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I'm like, he just.
Speaker 16 (30:15):
We talk about this on the podcast, me and my wife,
and there's a moment when you have to understand that
if a guy has to tell you that he has it,
he just doesn't have it, right?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
But he's running pass patterns on the beach, Robert, with
his helmet on.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (30:34):
And did you see him cut off his inside foot
on a jump cut trying to run a post?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Like, come on. The man was backpedaling with a football
holding it like... I don't even know how he was
holding it. Ball security was terrible.
Speaker 16 (30:47):
What DB backpedals with the hole in the football like
that with a big old chain on? And I don't
know if you've seen his mugshot, but Lord have mercy,
no wonder he was wearing a headband. This guy's got
a seven head.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
It's crazy. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
What's the one question you know you could ask somebody
to determine if they were a professional football player?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Oh, to determine if they're a professional football player?
Speaker 16 (31:08):
I thought the one question one girl asked him about
You know, like how did he make the team? And
he said private workout. And then he got cut. And
then he said there's three layers of getting cut. There's
the physical, the emotional. And I can't remember what the
other one was. That to me was a dead giveaway.
Like how there is no three layers of cuts or
(31:31):
waivers that you have to go through in that situation.
But I just tell people, you know, that you can
literally call the team. That's what I would tell them. Yeah,
but these women probably has a phone number. Yeah, but
they're probably on the team. I promise you they'll pick up.
(31:51):
They will pick up. The lady at the front office
will pick up and be like.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Let me check the register.
Speaker 10 (31:56):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Maybe they wanted to believe that he was a football
player and he was interested in them.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
They wanted to believe they had gotten their golden ticket.
Speaker 14 (32:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:06):
You know? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Dejan, like, come on. It sounds like a key and
pill skit. Dejan Love. Dejan Love. Mississippi Baptist Junior College.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
You know?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Like, it's perfect. But, man, he is not a real person.
He is not a real man. I feel bad for
the woman. I do. RG3 serving.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Honorary captain for the Baylor Bears on Saturday afternoon in Atlanta,
where he'll be opposite Cam Newton. And the Auburn Tigers.
Who is faster right now? Between you and Cam. I've
always been faster than Cam.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (32:42):
Cam has probably has been, you know, more massive human
being since birth.
Speaker 11 (32:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
But I've always been faster than Cam. Cam knows that.
Are you faster?
Speaker 16 (32:52):
We could line it up right now. I'd love to.
We could line it up for a race. Maybe they'll
spot my guys 14 points.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
If I win the race.
Speaker 16 (33:00):
Who's faster now, Tyreek Hill or you? Oh, I mean,
Tyreek Hill is fast. He's hurt right now, though, so
I could beat him in a race right now.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
But when he's healthy, Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 16 (33:14):
I believe in my abilities, but I'm also understanding of
small names.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Who's the fastest player in the NFL right now?
Speaker 16 (33:21):
Oh, fastest player in the NFL right now? The default
would be Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Remember when John Ross, wasn't he with the Bengals?
Speaker 11 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
He had like a 4-2 out of Washington. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Like the difference between like 4-1, 4-2, and let's say 4-3,
like how much of a difference is that?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Just a little? Just a little bit. I would say this.
When you watch the tape, like Xavier.
Speaker 16 (33:57):
Ward, I believe he still has the record for the 40, but–
I would say Rashid Shaheed from Seattle is the fastest
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Okay.
Speaker 16 (34:06):
Because when you watch their play speed, like, and don't
get me wrong, Xavier's fast. But when you watch their
play speed, Rashid Shaheed, in my opinion, with pads on,
runs faster. I don't know what the actual metrics are because,
you know, they track these guys' speeds and whatnot. But
it's not always the 40 that leads to great success
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
No.
Speaker 16 (34:27):
But it certainly helps, especially if you're a special teams guy,
because you've got to close that distance for the punter.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, but I'd rather have somebody who is fast for
10 than fast for 40. I'm using 10, especially a
wide receiver, running back, an offensive lineman or defense. It
just feels like the game is really about five to
seven yards of who gets there the quickest or first.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I think it all depends on the position, right?
Speaker 16 (34:57):
When you talk about wide receivers, you'd rather have a
Justin Jefferson who's a mid-4-4 guy, Odell Beckham Jr., mid-4-4 guy.
But when they run their routes, they're running full speed.
Or they're Jackson Smith and Jigba, right? Jackson Smith and
Jigba is not a 4-2 guy, but he's a mid-4-4 guy.
He might even run 4-3. I don't want to make
him slower than he is. But the way he runs
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his routes, you can't tell where he's going.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
But how did Jerry Rice run a 4-6?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
Well, Jerry Rice, I had a receiver in college named
Terrence Williams play for the Cowboys, third round pick. And
Terrence was a high four or five guy, but he
was high four or five. You know, when he woke up,
he was high four or five with no pads on.
He was high four or five with pads on. He
was high four or five in press coverage. He was
high four or five and off coverage. So there was
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a consistency there that made it very easy to throw
him the football. So Jerry Rice, in my opinion, no
DB was prepared to play Jerry like he was a
4-3 guy.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
So when they got ran by, they were surprised.
Speaker 16 (36:02):
You line up against Tyreek Hill, look at every DB
that played Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
They are 29 yards off. They're like, I am not
getting beat, dude.
Speaker 16 (36:10):
But with Jerry, they're like, this guy ran 4-6, I
can press him? And then Jerry would win. But if
you look at it, Dan, what are the plays that
you truly celebrate? It's the long-hitting... runs from the running back,
the catching runs from the wide receivers. And that's where
I think the 40 does come into play. You need
to have long speed, but you first have to be
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able to get there. So that 10-yard split, you're dead on.
It's the most important figure. But you can't have a
great 10 and be a five flat guy. As long
as you're somewhere between 4'3 and 4'6, you're okay.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
In my book. You can be drafted. You can go
be a star in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Have fun this weekend. Great to catch up with you,
as always. Appreciate you, brother. You're the best. That's RG3,
or as McLovin says, Robert Griffin Jr.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
III. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What
we learn right after this.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
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Speaker 2 (37:09):
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as will the commissioner of the Big Ten, Tony Battini.
Speaker 11 (37:17):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
The stat of the day has been brought to you
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Patrick Show. Dylan, final results of the poll question.
Speaker 10 (37:28):
Alrighty, Dan.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
We asked the people, who is the best defensive duo
of all time? After we were chopping it up a
little bit, I simplified it. I did Ray Lewis and
Ed Reed or other.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yeah, but you're a Ravens fan too.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Slight partial bias, but I think that's a good baseline
to see what other people say.
Speaker 10 (37:44):
56% say other.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
But 43% say Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, which is
probably on the higher end of what you'd get from any.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I'd have no argument if you said Ed Reed and
Ray Lewis, the best defensive duo in history. I would
side maybe Mean Joe Green, Mel Blunt would be in there,
or Jack Lambert, Mean Joe Green. There's quite a few.
But Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald. Here's one for you, Big
Day Ray. Sack total for Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald, or
(38:19):
Danil Hunter and Will Anderson with the Texans?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
So if you combine the two, Dan, Miles Garrett, Aaron
Donald would be 23 over-under, and then Will Anderson and
Daniil Hunter would be 25.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Ooh.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Texans defense is going to be great, too.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
AFC champion.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
CJ Stroud betting on himself. He had no other choice, right?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
He kind of had to take what they gave him.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Is it betting on yourself if they won't pay you?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yes. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 9 (38:54):
If the Rams and Texans played in the Super Bowl,
we have like a 9-6 game, like a battle of
field goals, 12-9, what are we going to get?
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Mike in Maine. Hi, Mike. What do you have for
me today?
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Hey, Dan, my colleague from your brand-new affiliate here in Augusta, Waterville, Maine,
The Score, Fritzie's incredible act of heroism in the face
of incredible danger inspired me to try to top him.
I'm not sure if it does, but I'll lay it
on you and see. I was like seven or eight
years ago sitting in my apartment in Portland, Maine, right
across from the hospital there, Maine Med, with my girlfriend
(39:24):
on a Friday afternoon. We're getting ready to order Chipotle.
It's going to be a great Friday night. All of
a sudden, my spouse, pattern went from what it is
now to something incredibly garbled for about 20 or 30 seconds.
I knew instantly that I was having a stroke. I
looked at her and I said, hey, I just had
a stroke. She goes, get the blank out of here.
I said, guess what we're going to do? We walked
(39:44):
across the street instead of getting Chipotle. We walked across
the street to Maine Med. I was admitted, and yes, indeed,
I did have a stroke. So I don't know if
that's over Fritzie's level of overcoming danger, but I gave
it my best shot, Dan.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Well, thank you. Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Feels like Mike is doing a humble brag, maybe flexing
a little bit there.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
But that's okay. Todd does it all the time.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
It's making me very nervous, that story. The speech thing.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Could be something. You can't co-opt somebody else's story, Dan.
Make us feel bad for you. Todd, what'd you learn today?
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Ryan Leafs believes as many... That's all, folks.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
Ryan Leafs believes.
Speaker 10 (40:24):
Are you.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Having a stroke?
Speaker 8 (40:25):
No.
Speaker 9 (40:26):
30 schools have a chance to play for the national title,
but it's way too.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
Early to really know.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Dylan.
Speaker 10 (40:32):
Todd's not having a stroke.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Marvin.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
You retire from hiking and biking.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Big Day Ray.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I guess anyone could be on the Niners.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah, just have a helmet. Todd, what did I learn today?
Speaker 9 (40:44):
RG3 likes to think he would have stayed at Baylor
if NIL was around and the Bears would have made
him an appropriate offer.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Man, when he's talking about schools paying under the table
and mentioned Stanford. Thanks for joining us. Our pleasure to
serve you. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox
sports radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Final hour on this Wednesday, Paulie's getting ready for not
so fast coming up after this show at noon Eastern with, uh,
Andrew McLovin Perloff. So big day Ray, who is also
the producer of the gambling podcast is sitting in Paul's chair.
Gambling podcast. We'll have that later today for you. Apparently the, uh,
(00:28):
Shea and Irving, giving you a recap of the Penn
State cocaine ring, kind of got a lot of attention
on social media. Ray, do we have numbers on that?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So it originally started, it got 75,000 views in 17 hours.
It's at 90,000 now, and people are very split on
whether Shea is correct or not correct.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I don't know what Shea was trying to do. I
think he was saying, how could you get caught? This
is what you needed to do if you were going
to continue this cocaine ring at Penn State. Also, Shea
had some strong commentary about Jed York of the 49ers
of advice that he would have given him to avoid
being arrested in a trailer park. Shea said, I can
(01:14):
identify with both of those situations. Who knows what's coming
up today on Dan Patrick Takes a Gamble?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Yeah, Shay's really honed in on the 9.30 a.m. part
of the Jed York story, which I have to agree
that does sort of become the most curious part about
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Shay had a whole idea, script, logic well thought out.
He said, Danny, I've been in that situation. I can
identify with him. And then we had the students at
Penn State and, of course, it kind of exploded social
media wise where everybody was critiquing Shea and Irving and
(01:57):
his take on what happened with both of those situations.
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Speaker 4 (02:46):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Also, NBC Sports Now. Download the app if you'd like
to watch the program. The heroic gesture of Fritzie back
again with a bandage on his hand, still trying to
type one-handed.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yes, Todd, you're good?
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I feel good.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I'm getting the bandage off right after the show.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Oh, good.
Speaker 9 (03:03):
And then I have a series of neurotic questions to
ask about if I can go back to the gym,
if I can get my hand wet, what I can
and can't do. If there's a certain injection I can
take or is it going to cause an infection?
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Do I have to wait in a week before taking
a B12 shot? Lots of questions.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Are there any stitches?
Speaker 8 (03:18):
Yes, there will be stitches. I'm going to have to
go back in a couple of weeks to get the
stitches out.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Really incredible.
Speaker 8 (03:22):
But here we are.
Speaker 10 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Really incredible. I feel very proud.
Speaker 8 (03:25):
I just missed that one day.
Speaker 9 (03:26):
Although if it happened to you, you would have missed
maybe like 20 minutes of the show that same day.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I would have had the doctor come in and do
the surgery while I was doing the show.
Speaker 8 (03:34):
While doing an interview with one of your illustrious guests.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Do you remember when I had to get a physical,
a blood test for a life insurance policy with people
who were my bosses a long, long time ago. So
we were just starting the Dan Patrick show and we
were in Chicago. And I remember the guy who was
helping finance this so we could do the show said,
(03:59):
you've got to, you know, I need a blood test here,
life insurance policy. I was on the air getting a
blood test And, you know, I don't do well with needles,
but I had to get the blood test because they
had to get this insurance policy.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
So I did that in real time.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's heroic there, Todd.
Speaker 8 (04:18):
It is. I have no comeback to that.
Speaker 9 (04:20):
I had no business missing the entire three hours on Monday.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
I got my wisdom tooth pulled, and I came back
the same day.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
That was pretty good. That one's pretty good. Like Kirk Gibson.
I think I got knee surgery on Friday, came back Monday.
Speaker 11 (04:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
How about that one, Marvin?
Speaker 7 (04:40):
No, you win.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I don't want to win.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Are you tired of winning?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm tired of winning. If that's winning, I think I
had my shoulder done. I always try to get something
done on Friday after the show and then try to
come in on Monday.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
So you're not a needle guy. When you do get
blood taken, are you like an eyes closed?
Speaker 10 (05:01):
Do you look away? Do you look directly at it
and try?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
No, look away.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And I need to talk. I need to talk to
the nurse. And then even going through stem cell, and
that would be, first time I went, it was five
days of getting hooked up to an IV. And then
the last time I went, it was three days. But still,
you know, it's coming. It's just a pinch, as they
always say. But I can't look at it. And I'll
(05:29):
be just, I talk faster than Todd does. When I'm
talking to the nurse, I'm asking everything, anything. I just like,
all right, yeah, okay, yeah, okay. How far do you
live from, okay, and your husband, you know. And then
it's like a little pinch, and I'd be like, ah.
And then I release that little rubber ball, and then,
all right, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, still.
Speaker 10 (05:50):
Is it just the needle or is it like the
blood that bothers you?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
It's the needle. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's the anticipation where you're like, And then you're fine.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
It's one thing to win to be uncomfortable. They have
that vaso-vaso reaction, if I'm saying it right. It happens
to my wife and there's a few other people I
know where they have a good chance of passing out.
Either once they see the needle or once it's inserted,
they actually go out. And they have to have someone
standing by to help wake you up safely.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
No, it happened to me twice, Todd.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
It's very scary. Did you know it was called vaso-vago?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Vaso-vase, I think. And I tell anybody who is going
to put a needle in me that I've passed out before.
And once, well, both times, both people went, you weren't lying.
I go, who would lie about passing out? It's the
most unmanly thing that you could possibly do.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I passed out.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I was doing life insurance policy, and I fell right
into the guy's lap. And then the other one, I
was going to have hand surgery, and they were putting
a needle in me.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Boom, passed out. I woke up.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Put a cold compress, and the nurse goes, you weren't lying.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I go, why would I lie?
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Yes, Marvin. First of all, don't look at me again
when you say I had hand surgery. You're trying to
apply something?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
They were reducing my hand size is what they were doing.
It was hand reduction surgery.
Speaker 10 (07:16):
Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
The last couple of times I've had a physical where
I've had to get blood drawn, I've only been able
to make the appointments at like 2.30 in the afternoon
just because that's what's available. And the blood draw place
is always closed for lunch at that time. So I
have to go do the physical, which is like 15 minutes.
They're like, Hey, you should get less fat, whatever. And
then walk across. And then I'm like, Oh my God,
(07:41):
the thing's close. And then I have to sit there
for 45 minutes when it's just like, all you want
to do is just get it over with, like stick
the thing in, take the blood, let me go home.
And you just have to sit there and wait. Cause
I don't love, I don't love the needle part either.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
It's a pizza Wednesday.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
Yeah, pizza Wednesday.
Speaker 10 (07:58):
Was that a Todd story?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, kind of. I think Todd is kind of wearing
off on you.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
You said the anticipation is the killer. And I was like, yeah,
you have to do it every time. But the anticipation
of you finishing your story is also a killer. What
pizzas do we have?
Speaker 10 (08:20):
I don't even care anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I do.
Speaker 10 (08:23):
Todd does. We have hot Italian sausage pizza, Dan.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (08:27):
Your New Haven-style tomato pie.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 10 (08:30):
Some parmigiana. And Todd's world-famous classic cheese pizza.
Speaker 12 (08:34):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Who is it better than we do?
Speaker 8 (08:36):
Nobody.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
All righty.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Fresh in Milwaukee. Fresh, thanks for holding. Robert Griffin Jr.
III will join us in about 20 minutes from now.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Hi, Fresh.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
What's up, D.P.
Speaker 11 (08:47):
And Danettes? How are you guys doing today? great. Oh,
I've got a quick question, but I'm gonna throw a
couple of names on the fire to get it going.
Speaker 9 (08:57):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (08:58):
Kurt Warner, John Randall, Warren moon, Adam than a theory.
Who is the greatest undrafted player in NFL history?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Um, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I did James Harrison. I don't think he was drafted either. Um,
Is there a wrong answer there? They're Hall of Famers.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Dick Night Train Lane, I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Think, was drafted.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
He was a Hall of Famer as well. But thank you, Fresh. What, Marvin?
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Sorry, DP. Warren Moon, when you told me he went
to Washington, it was astounding. You were like, oh, he
won the Rose Bowl. I'm sorry, you need to get drafted?
Speaker 12 (09:44):
I know.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I was like, boy.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
The racism was through the roof, DP.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
That was wild.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That was embarrassing that they didn't think he could run
a pro style offense. Uh, moon moon had, he threw
one of the best deep balls I've ever seen. He's
on the top five list in my opinion. Um, but
you know, he's a hall of famer, but I had
to go, I think he won five gray cups. He, he,
he went to Edmonton, uh, Antonio Gates. He wasn't drafted.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yes, Todd.
Speaker 9 (10:15):
According to our friends at Chad GPT, the names for
their top five anyway, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, John Randall.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
Dick Night Train Lane, Adam Vinatieri come up as the
top five.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, they're all Hall of Famers there. Tripp in Vegas.
Speaker 13 (10:29):
Hi, Tripp.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Hey, good morning, DP. Always good to speak with y'all.
Speaker 13 (10:33):
I had a few things, actually three things from the
podcast last night that I found entertaining. When Todd was
talking about Tuesday, he was coming to work inside of
his 24-hour frame. He said he had to drive slower
and he could pull over if needed. First of all,
I don't think that's possible from the left lane. And
then he's so cheap that when he gets a hamburger,
he orders Thousand Island dressing and uses his garnishes to
(10:55):
make a side salad. And finally, the most obvious thing
was this. Let's see, when you're talking about oral and
rectal thermometers, I think the biggest difference would be the taste.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Y'all have a good day.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
Fair point. Didn't think of that. Nobody likes Vaseline on
their tongue.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
It's kind of nasty. They don't.
Speaker 10 (11:16):
I don't think the Vaseline was the issue.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Oh, that was my mom taking me in my brother's temperature.
We're in high school. We're not going to do the
record for mom.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
John in Florida.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
Hi, John.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
What do you have for him? The Toddcast is available
at danpatrick.com. Hi, John.
Speaker 14 (11:31):
DP, thanks for taking my call. Six feet. Happy 250.
When I called in, I just wanted to let you
know that I hate it when people call into a
show like yours and all they can do is sit
there and tell the story. the host, how much they
love them, and, you know, I mean, just go on
(11:53):
and on and on. But I'll tell you, DP, the
truth is, after you went in the confessional this morning,
I couldn't resist to call you and tell you, when
you said that your show wasn't all about sports, there
was more, well, it is more. And it's more to
a lot of people for a lot of reasons. Because
you don't talk about just sports. You talk about people
(12:16):
and the things that... that either make us happy or
make us sad. And I think you guys, all of you,
I think you do a real good job of making
us feel good out here, even on maybe a bad day.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well, John, thank you. This is just a show. I
think that's the beauty of it is I wanted to
be that. I don't know what the topics are going
to be, but if, We do have a topic. Hopefully
we present it in a way that gets a reaction
out of you. That's what I want. I want you
(12:53):
invested in the show. There are times when I'm probably
selfish that I want to talk about something. But if
you bought into me and this show, then you allow
me to do that. And I appreciate that. And I
do have a platform and I want to take advantage
of the platform. I played it safe for a long, long, long, long,
long time. And I was probably cowardly in that I
(13:17):
know I'm being a little too tough on myself, but
I was cowardly in not talking about some of these issues.
And I promised you when I started, we're not going
to be talking about politics and religion, because you can
find that anywhere. There are times when it bleeds into
what we do or what we're covering, and I try
to acknowledge it, but that's just not my playground.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
That's not where I want to be.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But there are things that I share from a husband's perspective,
a father's perspective, or somebody who's been in sports for
over 40 years. And to be able to do that
and share with you and vice versa is very, very rewarding.
And hopefully it's good radio, good TV. Scott in Jacksonville.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Hi, Scott. What do you have for me today?
Speaker 8 (14:08):
Good morning, Dan.
Speaker 11 (14:09):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Good, Scott.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
What do you have for me?
Speaker 15 (14:12):
I just caught some of the interview you did with
Ryan Leaf. And I just got to say, I've got
33 years plus sobriety. And every time I hear him
speak about how it applied to him, when he said
it wasn't the pills, it was a me problem, that
(14:34):
really hit home with me. And I've met a lot
of people in the program, and I've never heard anybody
speak like him. I've never heard anybody who gets it
like he does. And I just want to have, just
want to thank you for having him on again.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Thank you, Scott.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I appreciate Ryan willing to share, but he said, you know,
you kind of find out about yourself when you go
through these dips and he was a failure and he
started to self-medicate. You're breaking into people's houses. Like he's,
he's in jail. You go from being a Heisman Trophy finalist,
(15:15):
the number two pick in the draft, and you're on
a prison floor. And you're wondering, how did I get here?
But he shares. And that's what I want. Now, look,
he admitted, and I even brought it up to him
when he was here last hour. I said, you lied
to me in Indianapolis. He said, I did. Because I
(15:36):
wanted to take him at his word. But I knew
that he was still using Vicodin. But I wanted to
take him at his word. And I remember saying to Paulie,
I said, Ryan Leaf is lying to us. He goes,
don't say anything. I go, I'm not. I'm letting you
know that if he does try to bring this up,
you tell him that I know what he's doing. And
(15:59):
if you're not fooling me, you're not fooling a lot
of people. And he admitted that a half hour ago.
He said, yes, I was trying to deceive you. And
I said, I thought something was up. But the last
thing I wanted to do was accuse you of still
taking Vicodin.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
And you weren't.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But I could tell. And he said, I appreciate that.
He had to do it on his own terms. But man,
the people who self-medicate, you think that nobody notices. You're
the last one to know that we've noticed. But we notice.
All right, we'll take a break. Robert Griffin Jr. III
(16:40):
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Speaker 4 (17:22):
Spring and Robert Griffin, Jr., the third.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He'll serve as the honorary captain for his Baylor Bears
this Saturday in Atlanta when they take on the Auburn Tigers.
Look at you going out there, honorary captain. What does
that mean? You just walk out to the middle of
the field?
Speaker 16 (17:40):
I think that's what it means, Dan. You know, they
got Cam Newton on the other side, you know, all
six footers. funny hats. We'll see how that matchup goes,
but it looks like it's going to be a pretty
interesting game. The Peach Bowl reached out, asked me to
do this as part of the athletic kickoff game.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I'm excited.
Speaker 16 (18:00):
I'm excited for Baylor this year, especially with DJ Lagway
getting a chance to come home, go to his dad's school,
and try to make his own mark and revive his
career as a potential first-round quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
When you're around Cam Newton and you're like, that's just different.
You know, Robert, when you go, he's a quarterback and
he's as big as, I mean, physically imposing. I just,
and I, and he might've had the greatest individual season
a quarterback's ever had in college.
Speaker 11 (18:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We talked about this before. Like, is it, is it
Cam Newton or is it Joe Burrow?
Speaker 16 (18:37):
Um, you know what Cam was able to do in
one year, basically just one year of college football was extraordinary. Um,
You know, I look at Cam, he looks like Julius Peppers,
you know, when you walk next to him. So like,
it's just, it's hard to imagine like this guy was,
was a quarterback, you know, the way that he's built.
I don't know if you guys remember like a couple
of years ago, some guys tried to jump him.
Speaker 11 (18:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Like a seven on seven tournament.
Speaker 13 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (19:01):
And I did like a reenactment, like a reaction to
that video. And I'm like, y'all better bring more people
because this guy, this guy, it's going to take at
least seven small human beings to try to take down
this one behemoth of a man.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
The position, though, I don't like it's evolved where you
could be smaller, run around a little bit. Fran Tarkington,
you know, back in the day. But is there a
prototypical quarterback? Because we went through those stages where we
needed to have somebody with six, four, six, five pocket passer.
And where would you say we are today with the
(19:36):
if you want to call it evolution of the position?
Speaker 16 (19:40):
Yeah, I think there is no size, height, weight prototype anymore.
I mean, you got Kyler Murray, who's like 5'3, starting
for the Minnesota Vikings. You know, when I was playing,
obviously you had Brady and Manning in the 6'4, 6'5, range.
But I think what it comes down to, if if
you go out to like a local high school, you know,
(20:01):
like an advanced level seven on seven program, you know,
which we have here in Houston called RG3 seven on seven.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
And you watch those quarterbacks throw the ball.
Speaker 16 (20:12):
It's not a matter of who can make the throws anymore.
The quarterback position is so advanced the way that they
work through everything. I've got high schoolers right now that
are more advanced than I was throwing the football my
second year in college. So I think what it comes
down is two things. One is the mental makeup of
decision making. And then two, does the coach.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Believe in you?
Speaker 16 (20:31):
Because they're going to give you more opportunities when they
believe in you as you get into the league. But
you can be 5'3, like Kyler Murray. You can be 6'5,
like Cam Newton. As long as the coach believes you
and puts a system in place that you can run
at a high level, I don't think there's a prototypical
size weight for the quarterback anymore. And I think that's
why it's made developing quarterbacks in the such a hard line.
(20:56):
You have to be aligned completely from the head coach, GM, ownership,
everybody in the building has to be bought in on
that one guy. And me and you know, that's really
hard to do no matter what industry you're in is
to get everybody on the same page.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I've been leading the crusade for years now, and maybe
I'm fighting a losing battle. I still think having a
quarterback under center gives you a better opportunity of disguising things,
deception with the defense. You know, uh, if you're going
to do play action, I'll buy into play action. If
(21:30):
you're under center, there's no play action if you're in
the gun. So it feels like there's some NFL teams
that are now using it more.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Why is that? Um, one, I, I agree with you.
Speaker 16 (21:44):
It's easier to fold defense when you go, when you
go on the center, um, the time between you, uh,
showing that fake in the run game, snapping it back.
There's just more time on task and more time between
the play-action fake and the actual plays that you're running
for the defense to be fooled. I think because a
(22:07):
guy like myself, when you have a quarterback who is
a true dual-threat, triple-threat quarterback, beat you with his arm, leg,
and his mind, that's when you can really utilize gun runs.
But Like, I love Joe Burrow, and I think Joe
Burrow is a dual threat quarterback in the sense that
he's a decent scrambler. But no one's really afraid of
(22:28):
him running a zone read. You know, it doesn't put
the same stress on the defense as when Lamar Jackson
does it, when I did it, when Jalen Hurts did it,
when Cam Newton did it.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
It's just a different level.
Speaker 16 (22:40):
So I think it really applies to the quarterback that
you have under center because then you can play action
out of the gun because they're afraid of him running.
majority of the quarterbacks right now in the league do
have athleticism, but they don't have the athleticism like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
When he gets to the second level, you know, he's,
he's out the gate.
Speaker 16 (23:00):
And I think that's the true difference between gun runs
and gun play action and under center. You can just
do more there and you can disguise more and you
can put the defense in a bind to where they
don't have one and a half seconds to react, but there's,
here's a three second play action where, Now you're having
to cover for six.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
To seven seconds. That's why I think it's effective.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
He's RG3, Fox College football analyst, out of pocket with
RG3 podcast and a Heisman winner at Baylor in 2011.
If there was the NIL and transfer portal, would you
have stayed at Baylor?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I like to think.
Speaker 16 (23:38):
Dan, that I would have stayed at Baylor because they
would have saw the value of having a young man
who was a freshman All-American and and, you know, opened
up the the pocketbook to keep a guy. And that's
why I don't blame some of the newer age guys
that bounce around a little bit, because they're trying to
take care of their families. And if the current school
(23:59):
doesn't see them that way and isn't willing to pay them,
you know, I think within one hundred thousand of what
another school is willing to pay them.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
They should leave. You know, I've told this story multiple times.
I think I've told it to you as well.
Speaker 16 (24:11):
But Mack Brown tried to get me to transfer to
Texas after my freshman year at Baylor on the field
when they beat us 42 to 20 because he felt like,
you know, halftime was 20 to 20. And he felt
like they missed out on recruiting me because they offered
me as a safety.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Well, you and you and Manziel, didn't they both?
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (24:31):
Well, they were going to make a defensive backs. They're
going to make us defensive backs. And he said, you
can transfer now. But, you know, back then you had
to sit out two years if you transferred. So it
was like, wasn't a real thing. But I just think
the schools that have these players that develop them, If
you want to keep them, then I think that you
you should open up your your pocketbooks to keep them
(24:54):
instead of complaining and saying, oh, well, this school is
going to pay him this amount of money.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
It's like, well, what do you want your legacy to be?
You want to be your legacy.
Speaker 16 (25:00):
You want your legacy to be the coach of the
team that allowed your best player to go play at
Miami or go play at Texas. I'm sure if they
pay them the same that those schools would pay them,
they'd stay. And they would have a better legacy. So
that's a long way of saying I think Baylor would
have seen the value in offering me the money that
that would have made me.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Stay at the university. Who was paying the most, though,
under the table? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 16 (25:25):
So I, you know, I never got paid under the table.
I got a free pizza one time in college and
compliance found me two days later and made me go.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Pay for it. So that was wild.
Speaker 16 (25:36):
But shout out to Baylor Compliance. Appreciate y'all not letting
a brother get a free pizza.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
They didn't give you didn't get a car. No, not
a car. Nothing.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
I know.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
This is why you're great at your job, man. I
love you.
Speaker 16 (25:50):
I know for a fact that the SEC was paying
the most under the table. But my my own understanding
was that there were two teams outside the SEC that
were paying a lot of guys under the table. And
it was Stanford and Florida State. How much money are
we talking about? You're talking hundreds of thousands per player.
So they were spending millions already back then. Doing it
(26:14):
in unique ways, I won't get into all that, not
trying to get sued.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, you can give me a for instance of how
can I pay you other than here you go, here's money,
or I'm going to give this to mom.
Speaker 16 (26:25):
Yeah, well, I know one of the schools, I'm not
going to be too specific, but one of the schools
was having– the players had bank accounts and those bank
accounts were set up by the school. So if they
say they win, say Florida State beats Florida or Stanford
beats USC, they would miraculously have $ 100, 000 in a bank account.
(26:47):
And that was the way that they were able to
funnel money to the players without it being like true
cash passing hands. Some other schools also set up like
summer internships where you're not technically allowed to be paid
but they would pay them in that way. And when the,
when the NCAA is not truly paying attention, it's very
(27:07):
easy for those schools to kind of get through the
cracks and do those types of things. So when I
hear a lot of people right now in our industry
talking about, oh, it's the.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Wild, wild West and this guy didn't pay. I'm like, guys,
it was always, it was always the wild, wild West.
Speaker 16 (27:22):
It's just now everyone can do it legally and, And
it's eroded the, how would you say, the depth of
a lot of these teams. I know you watch the
USC game. They're winning 35-3 against San Jose State, absolutely
blowing them out. The second the backups get in the game,
it's like, whoa, what happened? And that's every team in
(27:43):
college football right now, and that's why we have so
much parity.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, I laugh when I hear that nobody gets– they're
getting paid under the table even now.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Because I can give you this on top. but I'm
going to give you the, like, look at, you know,
Kawhi Leonard with the Clippers. If it's true, Hey, you're
going to get this amount of money. We're going to
give you some, you know, phantom jobs here.
Speaker 16 (28:10):
Listen, Shaq Shaq came out and said that when he
signed with the Lakers, they gave him a deal where they,
they also baked in like $ 20 million worth of movie roles.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
So like, like, come on, you.
Speaker 16 (28:23):
Know, I watched just am and all that stuff. Like, like,
come on, you know, this is, this has been going
on for a long time. And I'll be honest with you.
I had heard the stories before I went to college in,
in 2008. And one of my teammates, Jason Smith, you
probably remember him. He got drafted by the Ram second overall.
He told me when we were going to play against
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Texas A & M, my, my freshman year in college,
he said, Hey, if we win this game, make sure
you go back to your apartment and be ready for
like a bag of money to be there. If we
win this game, it's our biggest rival. So lo and behold,
we beat Texas A & M my freshman year. I
am high tailing it back to the, to the apartment room.
I'm like, Oh my God, this is going to be great.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Nothing was there.
Speaker 16 (29:08):
And Jason Smith was in the parking lot filming me laughing.
So like these, it was a known thing that these
types of things could happen. You know, I don't think
Jason ever had anything happen for him, but like, You know,
if you got to be you'd have to be really
in a great place financially as a young man coming
into college to not.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Be like, yeah, I'll take that car. Yeah, I'll take
that job. Yeah, I'll take that.
Speaker 16 (29:31):
And anyone that tells you that they wouldn't is lying
to your face like Dajon Love.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
You know, how did that happen that a guy is
convincing women? that he's on the Niners and he's carrying
his helmet with him all the time, Robert?
Speaker 8 (29:46):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I mean, he was a caricature of an NFL player.
Speaker 16 (29:50):
And I've just never seen any NFL player have that
much time on his hands. You know, like if we're
being honest, football players like Dan, like yourself, you're one
of the best in the industry at what you do.
You just don't have a ton of time on your
hands to be hanging out on social media and giving
TED Talks on what you should do financially. And, you know,
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the guy had like 27 homes.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I'm like, he just.
Speaker 16 (30:15):
We talk about this on the podcast, me and my wife,
and there's a moment when you have to understand that
if a guy has to tell you that he has it,
he just doesn't have it, right?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
But he's running pass patterns on the beach, Robert, with
his helmet on.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (30:34):
And did you see him cut off his inside foot
on a jump cut trying to run a post?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Like, come on. The man was backpedaling with a football
holding it like... I don't even know how he was
holding it. Ball security was terrible.
Speaker 16 (30:47):
What DB backpedals with the hole in the football like
that with a big old chain on? And I don't
know if you've seen his mugshot, but Lord have mercy,
no wonder he was wearing a headband. This guy's got
a seven head.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
It's crazy. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
What's the one question you know you could ask somebody
to determine if they were a professional football player?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Oh, to determine if they're a professional football player?
Speaker 16 (31:08):
I thought the one question one girl asked him about
You know, like how did he make the team? And
he said private workout. And then he got cut. And
then he said there's three layers of getting cut. There's
the physical, the emotional. And I can't remember what the
other one was. That to me was a dead giveaway.
Like how there is no three layers of cuts or
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waivers that you have to go through in that situation.
But I just tell people, you know, that you can
literally call the team. That's what I would tell them. Yeah,
but these women probably has a phone number. Yeah, but
they're probably on the team. I promise you they'll pick up.
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They will pick up. The lady at the front office
will pick up and be like.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Let me check the register.
Speaker 10 (31:56):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Maybe they wanted to believe that he was a football
player and he was interested in them.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
They wanted to believe they had gotten their golden ticket.
Speaker 14 (32:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:06):
You know? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Dejan, like, come on. It sounds like a key and
pill skit. Dejan Love. Dejan Love. Mississippi Baptist Junior College.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
You know?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Like, it's perfect. But, man, he is not a real person.
He is not a real man. I feel bad for
the woman. I do. RG3 serving.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Honorary captain for the Baylor Bears on Saturday afternoon in Atlanta,
where he'll be opposite Cam Newton. And the Auburn Tigers.
Who is faster right now? Between you and Cam. I've
always been faster than Cam.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (32:42):
Cam has probably has been, you know, more massive human
being since birth.
Speaker 11 (32:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
But I've always been faster than Cam. Cam knows that.
Are you faster?
Speaker 16 (32:52):
We could line it up right now. I'd love to.
We could line it up for a race. Maybe they'll
spot my guys 14 points.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
If I win the race.
Speaker 16 (33:00):
Who's faster now, Tyreek Hill or you? Oh, I mean,
Tyreek Hill is fast. He's hurt right now, though, so
I could beat him in a race right now.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
But when he's healthy, Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 16 (33:14):
I believe in my abilities, but I'm also understanding of
small names.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Who's the fastest player in the NFL right now?
Speaker 16 (33:21):
Oh, fastest player in the NFL right now? The default
would be Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Remember when John Ross, wasn't he with the Bengals?
Speaker 11 (33:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
He had like a 4-2 out of Washington. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Like the difference between like 4-1, 4-2, and let's say 4-3,
like how much of a difference is that?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Just a little? Just a little bit. I would say this.
When you watch the tape, like Xavier.
Speaker 16 (33:57):
Ward, I believe he still has the record for the 40, but–
I would say Rashid Shaheed from Seattle is the fastest
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Okay.
Speaker 16 (34:06):
Because when you watch their play speed, like, and don't
get me wrong, Xavier's fast. But when you watch their
play speed, Rashid Shaheed, in my opinion, with pads on,
runs faster. I don't know what the actual metrics are because,
you know, they track these guys' speeds and whatnot. But
it's not always the 40 that leads to great success
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
No.
Speaker 16 (34:27):
But it certainly helps, especially if you're a special teams guy,
because you've got to close that distance for the punter.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, but I'd rather have somebody who is fast for
10 than fast for 40. I'm using 10, especially a
wide receiver, running back, an offensive lineman or defense. It
just feels like the game is really about five to
seven yards of who gets there the quickest or first.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I think it all depends on the position, right?
Speaker 16 (34:57):
When you talk about wide receivers, you'd rather have a
Justin Jefferson who's a mid-4-4 guy, Odell Beckham Jr., mid-4-4 guy.
But when they run their routes, they're running full speed.
Or they're Jackson Smith and Jigba, right? Jackson Smith and
Jigba is not a 4-2 guy, but he's a mid-4-4 guy.
He might even run 4-3. I don't want to make
him slower than he is. But the way he runs
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his routes, you can't tell where he's going.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
But how did Jerry Rice run a 4-6?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
Well, Jerry Rice, I had a receiver in college named
Terrence Williams play for the Cowboys, third round pick. And
Terrence was a high four or five guy, but he
was high four or five. You know, when he woke up,
he was high four or five with no pads on.
He was high four or five with pads on. He
was high four or five in press coverage. He was
high four or five and off coverage. So there was
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a consistency there that made it very easy to throw
him the football. So Jerry Rice, in my opinion, no
DB was prepared to play Jerry like he was a
4-3 guy.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
So when they got ran by, they were surprised.
Speaker 16 (36:02):
You line up against Tyreek Hill, look at every DB
that played Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
They are 29 yards off. They're like, I am not
getting beat, dude.
Speaker 16 (36:10):
But with Jerry, they're like, this guy ran 4-6, I
can press him? And then Jerry would win. But if
you look at it, Dan, what are the plays that
you truly celebrate? It's the long-hitting... runs from the running back,
the catching runs from the wide receivers. And that's where
I think the 40 does come into play. You need
to have long speed, but you first have to be
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able to get there. So that 10-yard split, you're dead on.
It's the most important figure. But you can't have a
great 10 and be a five flat guy. As long
as you're somewhere between 4'3 and 4'6, you're okay.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
In my book. You can be drafted. You can go
be a star in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Have fun this weekend. Great to catch up with you,
as always. Appreciate you, brother. You're the best. That's RG3,
or as McLovin says, Robert Griffin Jr.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
III. Take a break. Last call for phone calls. What
we learn right after this.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
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Speaker 2 (37:09):
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as will the commissioner of the Big Ten, Tony Battini.
Speaker 11 (37:17):
All right.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
The stat of the day has been brought to you
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Patrick Show. Dylan, final results of the poll question.
Speaker 10 (37:28):
Alrighty, Dan.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
We asked the people, who is the best defensive duo
of all time? After we were chopping it up a
little bit, I simplified it. I did Ray Lewis and
Ed Reed or other.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yeah, but you're a Ravens fan too.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Slight partial bias, but I think that's a good baseline
to see what other people say.
Speaker 10 (37:44):
56% say other.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
But 43% say Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, which is
probably on the higher end of what you'd get from any.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I'd have no argument if you said Ed Reed and
Ray Lewis, the best defensive duo in history. I would
side maybe Mean Joe Green, Mel Blunt would be in there,
or Jack Lambert, Mean Joe Green. There's quite a few.
But Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald. Here's one for you, Big
Day Ray. Sack total for Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald, or
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Danil Hunter and Will Anderson with the Texans?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
So if you combine the two, Dan, Miles Garrett, Aaron
Donald would be 23 over-under, and then Will Anderson and
Daniil Hunter would be 25.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Ooh.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Texans defense is going to be great, too.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
AFC champion.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
CJ Stroud betting on himself. He had no other choice, right?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
He kind of had to take what they gave him.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Is it betting on yourself if they won't pay you?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yes. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 9 (38:54):
If the Rams and Texans played in the Super Bowl,
we have like a 9-6 game, like a battle of
field goals, 12-9, what are we going to get?
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Mike in Maine. Hi, Mike. What do you have for
me today?
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Hey, Dan, my colleague from your brand-new affiliate here in Augusta, Waterville, Maine,
The Score, Fritzie's incredible act of heroism in the face
of incredible danger inspired me to try to top him.
I'm not sure if it does, but I'll lay it
on you and see. I was like seven or eight
years ago sitting in my apartment in Portland, Maine, right
across from the hospital there, Maine Med, with my girlfriend
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on a Friday afternoon. We're getting ready to order Chipotle.
It's going to be a great Friday night. All of
a sudden, my spouse, pattern went from what it is
now to something incredibly garbled for about 20 or 30 seconds.
I knew instantly that I was having a stroke. I
looked at her and I said, hey, I just had
a stroke. She goes, get the blank out of here.
I said, guess what we're going to do? We walked
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across the street instead of getting Chipotle. We walked across
the street to Maine Med. I was admitted, and yes, indeed,
I did have a stroke. So I don't know if
that's over Fritzie's level of overcoming danger, but I gave
it my best shot, Dan.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Well, thank you. Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Feels like Mike is doing a humble brag, maybe flexing
a little bit there.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
But that's okay. Todd does it all the time.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
It's making me very nervous, that story. The speech thing.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Could be something. You can't co-opt somebody else's story, Dan.
Make us feel bad for you. Todd, what'd you learn today?
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Ryan Leafs believes as many... That's all, folks.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
Ryan Leafs believes.
Speaker 10 (40:24):
Are you.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Having a stroke?
Speaker 8 (40:25):
No.
Speaker 9 (40:26):
30 schools have a chance to play for the national title,
but it's way too.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
Early to really know.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Dylan.
Speaker 10 (40:32):
Todd's not having a stroke.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Marvin.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
You retire from hiking and biking.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Big Day Ray.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I guess anyone could be on the Niners.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah, just have a helmet. Todd, what did I learn today?
Speaker 9 (40:44):
RG3 likes to think he would have stayed at Baylor
if NIL was around and the Bears would have made
him an appropriate offer.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Man, when he's talking about schools paying under the table
and mentioned Stanford. Thanks for joining us. Our pleasure to
serve you. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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Dan Patrick
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