July 31, 2024 • 41 mins
On today's Dan Patrick Show, MLB Network analyst Tom Verducci joins us to discuss the biggest winners and losers of the Major League Baseball trade deadline, and former NFL kicker Pat McAfee stops by to break down his complaints with the NFL's new onside kick rules.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our one.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Ats Dan Patrick
Show got a lot of topics to dive into. And
speaking of diving into, the triathlon is underway. They are
swimming in the sand river the Okay, if it was
a Sherman Williams or Crayola crayon color, what color would
you have or label the send river? It is brownish
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greenish tope, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I would say, like a matt olive, like a matted Okay,
you have olive?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay. Anybody else have a color that they would recommend. Yes, time,
like a forest green, worst green? Okay. Yeah, it depends
on you know, the shading and the sunlight and how
it looks. And I mean this is where NBC should
have said, you know what, we've got some lenses we
can on this. We'll make it crystal clear blue. It'll
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look great like it's Hawaii. I would not go in there.
They're in there, but I and unless I was rescuing
somebody in my family, I don't think I would go
in there. And it's kind of hard to swim in
a triathlon and keep your mouth shut. The whole time.
(01:22):
You got to breathe at some point without you know,
bringing in inhaling some of Paris's finest water. There.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yes, Paul, it's kind of more of a tope color
with the sun hitting it at this time of day.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, all right, seet and poll question today at least
first hour is going to be what Well.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Right now, it's currently on my mind is are you
a little color blind?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Or no? Why?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Because you know we're just talking about the color of
the sand river.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And I didn't know this my whole life growing up,
but it turns out I'm a little color blind. And
it's with like brown and greens. Oh and so when
I look at that, I'm like, oh, it's kind of
I can't tell if it's brown or if it's green.
And like the house that I live in. My wife
and I argue all the time because I'm like, Babe,
that's a green house, and she's like, no, I picked
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out the color. It's brown, and all the time, like
you're telling that you cannot tell me that that house
is not green. She's like, I'm telling you it's brown.
And I think that she's just messing with me. But
it turns out she's not. Okay, so you're color blind
a little bit. Yeah, I think it's only with those
with those two colors.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Only men can be color blind. Does that sound right? Really?
I for some reason I heard that. Maybe I totally
made it up, but I thought only men are color blind.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yes, women can be color blind, so it's less common
than in men.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Hmm. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It makes sense though, because so many times I've come
home and there's dishes all over my whieboath? Are you blind?
You didn't see these clear things up?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So? What other pole questions do we have here?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
We got another one here from Paul.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You're a producer.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
If you won the silver men medal in the post
race interview, would you be gracious and thankful or salty
and unsatisfied?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, this depends on if you expected you were you
were expected to win or it's an unbelievable time that
you put up. I think that if you're a swimmer
and you finish second in the previous Olympics and you
go into these Olympics to finish second again, I might
be a little frosty about it. I don't know if
I would be a Yeah, what an honor just to
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get the silver, you go there to win the gold.
If you finish second the previous time, or you have
one of the top times, I don't think you get
out of the pool and you're like, well, very cheery
because you want to win the gold medal. So I
would say depending on the expectation level you going into
the Olympics too, what happened at the Olympics, because you
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could have your personal best and still finish second and
there's no shame in that. But if you're expected to win,
like Michael Phelps was always expected to win the gold,
Katie Ladecci like, they can't get out even when they win.
They're supposed to win, and that's tricky too. Like the
US women's basketball team, you can't get silver. But the
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US women's rugby team getting bronze is the biggest story
in the history of you know, women's rugby. What else
do you have there?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
See US men's gymnastics medaling was massive. I think did
they get a bronze in the team and they were
like going crazy because it had never happened, or it
hadn't happened in sixteen years or whatever it was. It
hadn't happened in a really long time and they were
going crazy. If someone Biles and the women's team finished bronze,
it would be a massive failure.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I just think it's the expectation level the men's basketball team.
They're expected to bring home the gold, and I don't
know what that would be like to be the favorite,
where Michael Phelps goes into the pool every time and
he was expected to win every time. Usain Bolt was
expected to win every single time, and even the joy
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or trying to have joy in that where people go,
I saw you won the gold, what was your talent? Like,
it won't be god you won the gold. It'd be
like a personal best. And I don't know why we
think that every swimming event there has to be an
Olympic record, you know, like every year or every Olympics.
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It'd be like, oh, oh that's a personal best, but
it's not an Olympic record.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
It is weird, Yeah, that we've come to expect like, oh,
they didn't even break the world record in this race.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah. And then I found out that the pool is
not as deep as other Olympic pools, and therefore that
might prevent some of these Olympic records being broken. I
thought we had a standard depth when it comes to
how deep a pool is for the Olympics, doesn't it
seem like it's like six and a half seven feet
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something like that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, I don't want to be out of
my depth. But I did read a New York Times
article that said the speculation is the pool is a
little more shallow, which would churn the water differently, turn
the water back towards the swimmers, and possibly the cause
of it. Other people are saying it's just an anomaly
when there is or isn't world records because we don't
develop that fast.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay, but why is it not the same depth for
an Olympic pool. It's called an Olympic pool. I would
think there would be, Well.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It's not three feet, you know, it's still like a
regulation depth, but it varies. It has to be a
minimum and there is a maximum.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
No, But it's called an Olympic.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Pool, right, it can't be like twenty six meters compared.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
To the No, it should be the same depth with
length depth.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
According to the article, the depth can vary the length
of Why.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I don't know why it's an Olympic pool. Why are
we okay with that? In some sports and not others. Well,
you know a baseball stadium, that's the character of it.
You know that that's your ballpark, and you hold your
team in accordance to what your ballpark looks like. The
basket NBA basketball floor, it's the same. Now, you do
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have hockey arenas rinks that were different sizes down through
the years, which I always found kind of strange. But no,
I would think.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's called an Olympic pool, and there's Olympic specifications there, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, According to the Olympic website here, the minimum depth
of Olympic approved pool is one point three to five
meters and says, yeah, Olympic pools must actually be deeper
than that the world aquatics for normal Olympic races. For
the Olympics, it must be two point five meters.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Okay, how many feet is that?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Great question? Okay, probably three times that, so it's.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Like six and a half feet something like water polo.
I think the pool is six and a half feet.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
The temptation to touch the bottom, yes.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But you can't. But I think it's six and a
half feet for a water polo.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It does seem odd though that swimmers, like so many
good ones like the marquee names are finishing like a
second or a second and a half behind what their
normal time is.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, that does seem odd. Yeah, maybe it's because the
depth of the pool.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yes, Paul, believe it or not, there's actually a lifeguard
on duty during the Olympic events. You'll see a gentleman
it looks like Olympic swimmer in shorts, the tight shorts,
sitting right at the edge of pool. He's the actual lifeguard.
He's paid to save anyone.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Has he ever saved anyone? Has anybody ever been saved
during a swimming event? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
But if we don't when the Olympics are in LA
in four years, if we don't have a bay Watch
themed lifeguards on duty, then we're failing as a nation.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That may be the new best job in sports, Olympic lifeguard,
because it doesn't seem like there's a lot of incidents.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, but it seems really boring. Yes, you're just sitting there,
not doing anything. At least if you're a lifeguard in
you're at the beach, you get some scenery there instead
of Okay, here's the four hundred meter I am doesn't
sound like fun. All right, So any other poll questions there, Yeah,
I think we're gonna go with those couple.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I mean, we could throw in a who won the
MLB trade deadline if you'd like.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, that's a little more complicated. I'll let Tom Berducci
tell me that in an hour from now. Yeah, who
won the trade deadline? There was a flurry of activity.
I was watching the mother ship. There was a flurry
of activity with those loading up, those trying to unload.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So someone describe it as absolute carnage. The last forty
eight hours has been an absolute carnage.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Carnage. Yeah, that's pretty fun. But carnage sounds like it's
a negative. Is carnage a negative word? I would think
it is. I would think frenzy would be a little
bit better. Frenzy, Okay. Carnage sounds like slaughter of a
great number of people, as in battle, butchery, massacre, yes,
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fighting or other violence, brutal carnage. I don't think anybody
died yesterday, negative tones.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I don't think so hopes and dreams died yesterday. Tea
selling Yeah, carnage, yes, carnage, Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, that's that's not the right word. Frenzy flurry of
activity Bonanza eight seven seven three DP Show email address
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So Tom Berducci will assess the winners and losers of
the trade deadline, and then Pat McAfee will join us
coming up in the final hour of the program. As
(10:39):
we look at the you know the it kind of
came out in a sneaky way yesterday with the official
official rules of the kickoff the on side kick. I
give us a little surprising that it kind of trickled out,
and you're like, wait a minute, I thought we already
solved this, settled this. It's like they did until they
got back and they fine tuned it, and they just
(10:59):
wanted to make sure that everybody understood exactly. Hey, you
have to tell the opposition you're gonna have an on sidekick.
You can't use it until the fourth quarter. You have
to be behind when I didn't know that there were
all these addendums to that rule. But McAfee, being a
former kicker on the kickoffs and a All Pro punter,
(11:20):
he'll join us coming up a little bit later on
as well.
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grades here. So who gets an a yesterday for trade
deadline moves?
Speaker 7 (12:24):
San Diego Padres, Let me start with them, Dan, I
mean it's no surprise that we saw twenty of the
thirty four players traded yesterday were relief pitchers. I mean,
that's what wins these days, that's what the game is,
like it or not, and a lot of us don't
really love it, but especially in the postseason, they went
out and got two of the best. Definitely the best
on the top of the market was Tanner Scott, the
left handed pitcher, and then Jason Adam. And this team
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has been playing really well for the last let's say
three weeks, so they're riding some momentum. And I just
think that they're starting pitching the way they spin the ball,
and now the bullpen, with the way they take care
of the sixth and then on they became to me
a really dangerous playoff matchup for anybody, whether that's Phillies
or Dodgers. So I'll start with San Diego. I did
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like what the Dodgers did getting Jack Flaherty. I thought
he was the best starting pitcher available. It tells you
how unsure they are DAN about their options when they
get to October, about their rotation, and they bought themselves
a little certainty.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Give me the top three teams in the National League.
Have the Padres elevated themselves with the Dodgers in the Phillies,
I think they have Dan.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I think the Phillies. I still think the Phillies are
the best team top to bottom, but they've gone through
a rough patch here that's probably I want to say
it's about thirty thirty five games. It's gone for a while.
Right now, they're not hitting, which is kind of a
good thing because I don't worry about that with that lineup.
They tried to fix their bullpen. I liked what they
did and getting Carlos the staves. What was really interesting
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is they had two guys who they lost complete confidence
in in Sir Anthony Dominge and Gregory Soto, and the Orioles.
The best team in the American League East took those
two players. I don't like the idea Dan of adding
players where you're per rejecting that they're going to be better.
I want guys who are better right now, and I
make the deal so they're plug and play, hit the
ground running.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Your top three teams in the American League. Did they
change it all after yesterday?
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Probably not to me. It's still New York Baltimore and
I'm actually gonna have Cleveland three. I did love the
Cleveland pickup of Alex Cobb, and you're saying, well, wait
a second, this dude hasn't pitched an inning get this year.
I love their bullpen. I love the way they put
the ball in play. I love the way they run
the base is they're short, or they were short starting pitching,
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and they've got a guy who's got a fresh arm,
who's a hip injury he's coming back from and as
long as he turns out to be okay, and all
systems seem like their go I love the idea that
adding a real veteran gamer. He is a gamer, competitive guy.
So that was a really key pickup for me.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Why didn't the Cleveland Indians change to the Cleveland Spiders
as opposed to the Guardians.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Because they had that rich history as one of the
worst teams ever.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Right, But it's a great, great nickname. It's a great mascot.
I mean there's great upside with that.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
It is a great nickname. I mean, just think about
the mascot. What the uniforms could look like. Can you
imagine a City connect uniform for the Cleveland Spighters. I mean,
everybody'd be wearing it for a Halloween costume. I think
first graders would love it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It was awesome.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
I don't know, maybe there was just some I don't know,
copyright issues. I don't know what it was. I kind
of like, I kind of like the Guardian's name. When
you figure out what it means. On the face of it,
you're like, what the heck is guardians? Guardians at the
Galaxy know that Bridge and Cleveland and I actually like
the name and the meeting behind it, but it does
take some research to appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
We were talking this morning prior to the show with
all the moves that were made, and we can't help
but think about Mike Trout that he's I guess had
a set back and you know his rehab. What is
he thirty two?
Speaker 7 (15:58):
I mean, not much hope, and you know a lot
of times the game turns over quickly these days, and
yet you look at the Angels and they're a long
way off DN. I mean, they didn't have much to
do here at the deadline. They probably could have done more,
but farm system is not great. I love Mike Trout
and I love the fact that he is so loyal,
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and a lot of people use that against him. They say, well,
why shouldn't he just you know, tell Ardie Moraine or
the Angels. He wants out of there so he's a
chance to win. This is this guy sitting around there
for twenty one twenty two picks on the draft day
and the Angels took him. They extended his contract twice
before he was a free agent. It's really out of
nothing more than loyalty, loyal toy, family to the Angels.
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I don't hold that against them, but man, it is
a shame that really the best player of this generation,
we've kind of forgotten that he is. Right, Yeah, has
never really had the chance that one chance early in
Kansas City, they got slappy and swept. He's never won
a postseason game. Mike Trout is crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And I don't know if the Angels just say, let's
do what's best for the Angels and trade him. You're
talking about loyalty from the like Kevin Garnett. He was
loyal to the Timberwolves, loyal, loyal, loyal, and then what
happened They trade him to Boston. Now it worked out well,
but at some point the Angels have to look at
this and say what is best for us and what
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can we get from Mike Trout.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yeah, it's the problem now is he's just been hurt
so much dan that they'd have to pay down that
contract to move it. And he's still extremely popular. I'll
say this about Mike and This has been true from
day one. If you go to an Angels game, literally
every game is out there before the game, signing autographs
for kids. I mean, people bring their families to watch
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Mike Trout play. He hasn't played a lot in the
last three or four years.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
How could a team be as bad as the White Songs.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
It must take a lot of work, huh. I hear
a lot from players Dan about how their player development
system is really not good. It's thirty out of thirty.
I'm talking about even at the major league level, or
finishing off players and developed them. And you just hear
this time and time again again that some of the
players they've had with talent just don't ascend, say a
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Johan Mancata. I even look at Michael Kopek. He was
traded one of the deals than the Dodgers, right, mark
that name down. He's going to be a beast in
the postseason. He's got a fastball to me, that's got
properties like Garrett Cole. He's got some issues with his
slider in command that Dodgers will fix him. I believe
they're probably let's say top five in player development and nowadays,
as you know, Dan, guys get pushed to the big leagues.
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Player development is not just about the minor leagues anymore.
It's how good your major league staff is.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We're talking to Tom Berducci, Fox Sports, MLB Network. Is
there a pitcher comes to mind comparable to Paul's schemes
in how he hit the majors his first year?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I mean, the obvious one would be Strasburg, right, you know,
I can see some similarities there.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
For me.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Is nobody better I saw as a phenom, so to speak,
because Dwight Gooden Dwight was nineteen years old, had two pitches.
Two pitches. They were both like otherworldly and people sometimes
he was tipping his pitches. People knew it was coming
and nobody could hit him. I mean, I still think
that's the best feed ump. And he was nineteen years old.
Skins is a really college polished twenty one year old.
(19:27):
He had essentially a major league pitching coach in college,
and Wes Johnson. If you watch him pitched in it's funny.
He does throw a hundred. We all love velo, right.
His forcing fastball might be his quote unquote worst pitch
because batters can hit velocity in today's game. But he
knows how to pitch. That splinker thing he's got combo
of a splitter and a sinker is just filthy. But
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watching him pitch and all the importanents say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
As impressive as his stuff is, it's what he's doing
with it. His baseball IQ is off the sharks. So
right now he must watch whenever he's got the baseball
in his hands.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Is there a pitch that leads to or makes it
more susceptible to Tommy John surgery?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
That is a great question. For years, they used to
say the split finger put a lot of stress on
the elbow because if you just take a baseball wedget
there between your fingers and hold it there long enough,
you start to get a little tension in your elbow.
Right But I think Dan, it's more about not an
individual pitch. But the two biggest factors are overuse and
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poor mechanics, And very few guys now are overused. Right now,
we have a third issue, which is pure velocity. I mean,
I hate to say it, the guys who are throwing
upper nineties time and time again are at risk because
there literally is more strain on the elbow. Think about this.
We've done so well. In terms of mechanics, very few
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guys go out there in the major leagues with really
bad mechanics. Now they're very careful, probably too careful right
the way they cut back on eynings and pitch counts.
But what you can't do is you can't do anything
about that ucl that little ligament your elbow. You can
strengthen all the muscles that you want, have the most
efficient delivery that you want, but when you're throwing one
(21:16):
hundred miles an hour, that little ligament literally cannot stand
the force from that, over and over and over again.
It's not going to change because the game pivots on
velocity and if you watch kids at showcases, they're all
trying to throw as hard as they can. And people
have just signed up for that risk that, yeah, one
day I'm gonna blow out, but they'll fix it and
I'll get back out there.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Is it just me? Or it sounds like literally sounds
like the ball leaving Otani's bad is different than anybody
else in baseball. No, that's a great call, But why
is that? I mean, the other guys can hit it
as far, if not farther, But there's a sound, there's
a quality to that where it's like that's different.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
I used to say that about Wang gon Zalaz back
in the day. A few guys really jump out when
it comes to Albert Pooles. There is a difference sound.
There's no question about even the players that they know
that you can close your eyes in VP and know
that okay o, Ty's the cage right now. First of all,
if you stood next to him, you realize that dude
is big. I mean, he's got like this Michael Phelps body.
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He's freakishly flexible, and he's got these long levers. So
you think, all right, he's kind of wiry strong. No,
he has built like a tank man and he's got
those long levers. So he's got tremendous leverage in the baseball.
And he's really learned how to backsmin the baseball high
in the air, so his fly balls, when sometimes he
hits the ball looks like a fly ball and it's
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like way out. He's got that gift man where there's
just another gear to the ball leaving in bat.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Always great to catch up with you, Tom, Thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Always a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Dad.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 2 (23:02):
If you were favored to win a gold and you
win a silver, I'd be a little frosty. Yes, Todd,
I'm just.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Kind of creative.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
What if we did four years of shows and you know,
you don't even come in the top three of sports
talk shows or something like that, that would be frustrating.
And they just four years of shows and you just
don't even come away with anything.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Why would you say that to McAfee's never been nominated
and he's joining.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Us, That's why would you that's on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, that's terrible, Pat, I'm sorry, I mean it's on
the horizon. Yeah, it's on the horizon. Pat, I apologize
for my people. Thanks for joining us here.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
Hey, it's an honor Dan, honestly, and to be clear,
you need in your show has been a trailblazer in
this world. Your show, with the big old brains that
they have, should be acknowledged by the Sports Emmys people,
but they won't because the Sports Emmys people are dumb,
which is why, I uh, until you win one, we're
not even entering We don't even enter our show.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
So we haven't even entered our show.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
We won't until you get one at least, and then
hopefully we'll still exist sometime after that, and if we
decide to enter into the Sports Emmys world and play
their little game, hopefully we'll be able to take one.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Help you know, well, thank you, thank you for that support.
If you were like summer Olympics, what kind of sport
could we see you in?
Speaker 9 (24:24):
So this morning, six am our guy jaw jj last
name from California, who committed his entire life to table tennis.
Pretty much, he's the furthest that we've ever had in
American men's single advance into the Olympics. Just made to
the round of sixteen. I consider myself a pretty good
table tennis player. I can ping pong with the best
of them in a garage, couple beers, maybe some edibus,
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maybe some smoke, what you name it, But I think
that would be I think that would be the sport
I would want to get into the most. Definitely not
the poop river swimming one, but the other ones. I
would just love to represent the United States with America.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I could see you rugby, like I think you're sneaky athletic.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Well thanks, thanks, ye, I was a professional athlete of undefeated,
of WrestleMania.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
You know, all those types of things. Non as athletic
as you.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
But but yeah, rugby, I would want to be like
Spiff Cedric, the girl that took that thing ninety five
yards yesterday for the big time win, that we kicked
the extra point and we end up beating the hell
out Australia for the bronze medal.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
It would be cool to be that. I'm not tough
enough though we all know that not tough enough for that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But I've watched the show. You start the show, you're
you're red, white and blue man, You're all over these Olympics.
You got it right now, Yeah, you got your USA
Red White and Blue shirt on there.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Don't you think we need it?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Then?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Like I think I think we need it.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
And I appreciate the fact that it does feel that
people from all walks of life support all of these sports.
You know, once these sports and competitions come every four years,
you get introduced to a brand new group. And with
the swim qualification trials happening here in Indianapolis at Lucas Oil,
I got a chance to go into the swimming community
for like a night and watch out goes the amount
of passion, the amount of like everything that they have
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for their sport, for the country, for everything. It's just
like it's a beautiful thing. And I like to be
gross grotesquely obnoxious about America being better than everybody else,
and we've been able to have the opportunity to do
that for the last few Olympics.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
And it's great.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
If I said you could have Michael phelps career Tom
Brady's career.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
Well, I've had a hole in my ear drum for
like two decades. So keep me out of the water.
You know, I'll keep me out of the water. Give
me seven Super Bowls, give me a chance to be
a Hall of Famer for not only the NFL and
for New England, probably Tampa.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Bay's Hall of Fame. And then if I was Tom.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
Brady and I had his career, I would never sign
up for a Netflix roast. So that's just kind of
the one little change that I would make. But give
me Tom Brady. Even though I love Michael Phelps. He
was literally on our show yesterday.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Okay, why did Tom sign up for that? Abuse?
Speaker 9 (26:51):
I think it was probably a pretty hefty check from
what I've told you know, from I think we've all
heard about it, the amount of money that was potentially given.
And then I think his production company too, probably has
a couple more deals with Netflix cooking there. And I
genuinely don't think he knew how talented the brains are
that are in the stand up comedy world at this
current time. I think that's what was on display during
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those roasts. I mean, obviously, kill Tony is something that
happens every single week where they just roast everybody, and
then you start thinking about Nicky Glazer, what she was
able to do. Andrew Schultz, like this group of comedians
right now that is kind of leading us into the
next wave of comedy. And Shane Gillis wasn't even there.
I would, I mean, that would have been the perfect
human to put in there. But like this new group,
their brains are too good. And I think that roast
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was obviously spectacular for us to watch, but it was
too good. We'll never get another one, at least until
the next generation forgets how strong the comedians' brains are.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I think personal were you asked to take part in
that roast.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
No, I was not at all.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Would you have done it?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no way. I don't
like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
I don't want I don't like I get roasted enough.
You know, I already get roasted enough in my life
in day to day. And I don't know how you've
done this for as long as you've done it in
this sports world, because I assume everybody has respect for you,
as they should. There's a lot of respect for me
amongst other people that are in the sports world, sports
journalist world. So I get roasted a lot on a
regular basis. So I wouldn't sign up for something to
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go sit on a stage to get absolutely roasted by everybody.
That would be a difficult decision. I'd rather good vibes.
But I am certainly wanted to watch the drama like
I will watch the Real Housewives of Orange County. But
I did not want to be in the Real Housewives
of Orange County, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Talking to Pat McAfee. One of the reasons why well,
the reason why we want to have you on. Of course,
you were an iconic kicker punter kickoffs. Now we have
the official rules that came out that kind of like, oh,
by the way, here are the official rules if you
have to be a losing team in the game and
it has to be a fourth quarter and you have
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to announce it. Your thoughts on that, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
Think the onside kick was something that was very special
to football for a very long time. At any moment
in the fourth quarter or if your team was behind,
there was a glimmer of hope that a kicker was
going to be able to hit a perfect ball and
then the guys on the kickoff team were going to
be able to make some miraculous play and then oh, yeah,
we got this thing that has like a two percent
chance of success rate. But then also our quarterback's going
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to have to go now another sixty yards somehow against
the defense that they haven't been able to do it
all game, which is why we're behind. So it was
like there was always a glimmer of hope. There was
always something that you could hold at the end of
the game and maybe get your team back into it.
But with the new rules that came with the kickoff,
with an elite run up and the amount of players
where they have to be, you can't overload you have
to keep the They kind of eliminated it from the
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game by themselves. So the fact now that we'll never
see a surprise on sidekick again is a bummer. I
was on the field whenever Thomas morse Haid hit the
ambush at halftime the Super Bowl, obviously the biggest surprise
on sidekick in the history of the sport. They would
go on to win a Super Bowl, And honestly, that
was a wild night, incredible kick by Thomas.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Who was you did you? Could you sense it at
the time? Being a kicker watching a kicker like a
pitcher had tells, you know, with a pitch, like could
you sense anything that was happening?
Speaker 9 (30:05):
His little run up was interesting, you know because like
I did some surprise on side kicks in our run
with the Indianapolis Colts as well, and it was always
cool to get that call, you know, because anytime you're
doing one of those, if you fail, you're giving the
ball to the other team in very very favorable position,
and field position is literally what you're getting paid for
when you're a punter and a kickoff guy. So I
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think you could see in his run up a little bit.
It might have been a little bit different. But Thomas
Morse to the guy that did that, actually taught me
how to punt going into the NFL. So he and
I very tight, like very close friends. So whenever I
see him pull that off, it's like, I'm pumped for him.
But also this sucks super Bowl at the age of
twenty two, So it's like the surprise on side kick
was a beautiful thing and it used to be something
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that a lot of kickers take took a lot of
pride in. Like Sebastian Janikowski, he used to be able
to hit a high hop off, especially over in the
Coliseum whenever they played on that baseball dirt. He used
to be able to hit a ball off of the
grounds tow it which hurts you're groin, hit flexer and
your tow You got to really sacrifice a lot. Hit
that thing right in the ground. It would bounce up
through to the third floor almost and then come down.
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They would be able to get the jumper. Mason whenever
he was at the Packers, had a great one. It
was like something that a lot of people worked on
and it was something you took a lot of pride
in because if you had the opportunity to do it, you're.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Actually affecting the game. It's a turnover.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
You're changing the game completely at the kicker position, which
you can't always do. At the punter position you can't
always do. So it became something that guys started working
on less and less and less, and then with the
way the rules changed, it seemingly just kind of worked
itself out. But now with the new kickoff rules, that's
going to be weird to look at. I think with
the landing zone and where the team's gonna be, where
the kicker is going to be. Obviously, the XFL had it,
the XFL doesn't have forty nine million eyes on it
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whenever they're having games. It's a little bit different, so
I think people are gonna have to get used to that.
But they're trying to keep it in the game. They're
trying to evolutionize it all. But the onside kick, I
think has been sacrificing compromise for a few years now
and now it's officially out, which is a bummer.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I'm not happy about it at all.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Could you call an audible and do an on side
kick when you were with the Colts.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, so the one I hit to myself against the
Houston Texans was not called I mean that.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That was all me.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
And if I don't get that, I just get up
and just walk right out of that statement.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
You know that is that's on Thursday night football.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
But the reason why that happened is because we hit
a surprise on sidekick to the left earlier in the season.
We hit a surprise on sidekick to the right earlier
in the season, so teams started putting their hands teams
up against us for every single kickoff. And that actually
became the case study that NFL used for the iteration
of the kickoff. That it was where you had ten
or eight people up within twenty yards of the ball
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because we faced the hands team for every single kickoff.
So like I had the highest touchback percentage, like maybe
in the history of the NFL, because teams couldn't set
up a return, so I would hit that thing like
one yard in the end zone, they would have to
take a knee because their hands team was in there
because they didn't want to get hit by a surprise
on side. So I'm just stealing stats here, you know,
I'm loving everything about it. I don't have anywhere near
the talent of everybody else. But we're looking out but
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they're on the right, they're on the left. The middle
was wide open as you can see in the thing.
So yeah, I just I gave a little hamstring tap
to my guys, basically said stay out of there.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Hit it to myself.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
It worked out and most athletic thing I've ever done
in my entire life. But if I don't get that,
Chuck Pmgono says, get your just got quit, you know,
hang up the helmet, hang up to Jersey.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
How does the new expansion in playoffs in college football
not work?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Duh?
Speaker 9 (33:19):
The only way it doesn't work is, I mean there's
gonna be like the thirteenth team is going to be
debated now, you know. Like obviously, Florida State last year
was incredibly pissed because they didn't make it in they
had their.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Third string quarterback.
Speaker 9 (33:30):
I don't think anybody with a sane mind outside of
Florida State thought that a third string quarterback should lead
a team into a fourteen playoff. And I think what
the college football playoff last year was fantastic. If I
was a Florida State player, Florida State family member, Florida
State alumni, I would have been mad as well. Like
I'm not happy, I understand why they were mad, but
I think as a college football fan, that was the
right decision. Now it's going to be the thirteenth team
that's going to get discussed, and there's going to be
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a Power five school that's going to get in over
somebody that had a great year that's going to tie.
So I think the only way it doesn't work is
with the dramas going to come from who gets in
who doesn't get in. But for me, home field playoff
game is going to be absurd. College football is something
that I've been baptized into here over the last couple
of years of college game day, the pageantry, the tradition,
the fans, the environment, like everything that is college football.
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Obviously on the field, it's amazing. So now we're getting
to see it in a very important game, in a
big game. I think that's going to beautiful. I think
this is going to be the biggest and best college
football season of all time. And I know there's a
lot of college football people, old heads that aren't necessarily
happy about that, because the world is changing quickly in
front of our eyes, and we don't want to lose
Saturday football and turn it into Sunday football. But this year,
I think he's going to beautiful. I think it's going
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to be a stone into the new direction of college
football is going, and it's going to be great. That's
how I feel personally.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, I think Saturdays is kind of leaking into Sunday though. Pat,
I think we're going to get there. I think they're
just going to take the NFL model, and you might
have forty teams, forty schools, and maybe they're you know, divisions.
You have an AFC NFC type going to pay them
revenue sharing, and you're basically gonna, you know, do what
they do, have playoffs and then have a Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (35:06):
It's interesting, Dan, because like in theory, that would make
sense too, And I think we've kind of batted around
the ball a little bit on how it's, how it
would work, how wouldn't work. Chip Kelly came on our
show whenever he was still the head coach at UCLA,
and he kind of laid it out. He was like,
the NFL has this right, and I pitched this a
few different times. You obviously just have divisions and conferences.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
You can separate it.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
By this, we all go under one roof and then
all of a sudden, we have more leverage with TV,
we have more this, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. But it's like,
how do they how do they institute that? You know,
like the NFL works, because obviously it's been around a
long time, one hundred plus years, but like Roger Goodell
is the person and now obviously he's working for ownership,
but at least there's one person that is kind of
at blame or at fault or to credit for things
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that are happening, and that's it. He gets paid very
well to do that for college, to get all the deans,
the presidents, the athletic directors, the coaches all to get
on the same page, which is why we are in
a transition era that I don't know how long it's
gonna last because in theory we all have answers, but
how they get instituted. I have no idea, Like, you're
gonna need some very important people, smart people, some people
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that can sway people, business people like and also sports people.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Greg Sank Greg Sank, I would just say, Greg, here
you go. He could be even better than Goodell. And
then I would just kind of put it in his lap.
You want to have, you know, co with Tony Petiti
with the Big Ten. Okay, but it feels like there's
a top heavy college football talent base and then there's
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other ones that are stragglers. But can you imagine relegation, Pat,
How great would that be that all of a sudden,
North Dakota State is playing, Vanderbilt goes down, Northwestern gets
kicked out? You know, be fun. I don't even know
if those schools would even get in, but I think
you could have some real fun with that relegation. Last day,
(36:54):
last game you're watching, You're going to nobody cares about
this game until you care about this game.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah. The only issue with that is Danny.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
You know this because you've had to deal with suits,
I assume for a long long time. The presidents of
these schools, you know, who have pretty good says is like, hey,
there's a chance next year you guys aren't going to
be in the Big Ten in your rev Instead of
like eighty million TV deal, you're gonna get like six
million next year. And it's like, oh, we're building a
new building because we remember.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
We have to do it.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
So It's just like college ball is awesome, college passion
and loyalty is fantastic. It's like, we need to keep that,
need to evolve, need the players to make money, don't
need them to get screwed over. And these nil deals
where they're not paying them out, but who's going to
be in control?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Sankee would be awesome. I love that, man. I think
what he's remember.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
COVID came around, Big ten said we're not playing pac
twelve said we're not playing IVY League, so we're not playing.
Greg Sankey got a podium and said, we're playing football
in the SEC. I don't even know what we're talking about.
He stood in the fire, has numerous times, has led
the SEC. Obviously feels good about it. But that's a
massive task for him take on to save the entire cime.
But hopefully he'll do it because, uh, I agree with you.
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There's a lot of opportunity with the great sport of
college football.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
You got to pace yourself, pace yourself this fall. Okay,
are you going to Dublin? Oh?
Speaker 9 (38:11):
Yeah, taking the show to Dublin. We're actually taking our
show to Dublin. I do believe we're in talks right now.
With a pub in Dublin to take our show on
Friday over there before Georgia Tech and Florida State on
Saturday on ABC. That's gonna be quite a start. And
I'm a little worried. You're talking about pacing yourself once
those Guinna you know, those Guinnesses started. I really I
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don't know if that's the plural for a Guinness or not,
but fun funk you want they start flowing over there?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
No, no, no, But you're good because you're later in the afternoon.
We went over there last year for the Notre Dame
Navy game and our show started too in the afternoon,
and we brought Will Ferrell over. We rented out a
pub we were able to sleep in. I mean it's
it's it's dangerously accessible, let's put it that way. So
(38:58):
I would have your guys sign a waiver and you know,
maybe there's a blood alcohol content that you measure each
day when they come in.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
See, I'm a little bit worse because if we start
doing that in Dublin, then we gonna.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Start doing it here too.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
And uh, you know, couple my guys much better when
her boost. Yeah, it's good. It's a long season.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
Though, Dan, I think my guys have been playing this
two K college football NCAA twenty five game, and one
of their big takeaways is like, hey, these are long seasons,
Like this season is long now with the twelve team
playoff and with what it's gonna become with the Big ten,
the SEC, what they're going to talk about conference play
and everything. If somebody goes undefeated, now, it's gonna be
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like the greatest feat in the history.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Like it's long.
Speaker 9 (39:41):
Yeah, long seasons on of big time matchups, new rivalries
should be a blast, but yeah, long year.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
It's gonna be a long season, long season.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Thank you, Bud. Baby's good.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Hey, McKenzie's awesome. She has had to check up this morning.
Uh seventieth percent out for everything. She loves to eat boys,
she loves me. She got my taste, Buds. That's not
fantastic news. But mom's good. Baby's good. Life is good.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
How are you guys? Great?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Everything's good? Every day is the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Hey, you're damn right, Dan, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Every day?
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Is Fritz's first name?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Todd? Todd? Yeah, Tod, jeez, I don't.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Have his number saved.
Speaker 9 (40:15):
I get a text in any big one, Hey would
like to see you here, and it says Todd, and
I'm like, I don't know Todd. So then Paula text me.
Paul texts me, He's like, hey, you come on. And
then all of a sudden, I get a text from
Todd again and I'm like, oh, and I google it.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
I go Fritz's name's Todd. That's on me. I want
to let Todd know that I apologize.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Feel free to block that number if he went wow,
I thought.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
I blocked it already. That's why when I don't know
who it was. You know, but I appreciate you having
me on.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
You're the best. You guys are the best, and that anything. Honestly,
I know in the way you all came up, which
I assume is through like journalism school everything, you know,
like that whole thing, I understand that you guys will
hold that in high regard and you certainly own one.
But don't play these hop its games. Okay, you guys
have won enough Emmys in all of our eyes. Don't
worry about MLB tonight, taking one away from the Dan
(41:06):
Patrick Show, your legends.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
We appreciate the hell out of you, and thanks for
having me on.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
You better round of blows there, Pat mccaffe verry kinins,
verry kinon when nobody else believed in US, Pat did,
It's the future.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Pat McAfee's show, ESPN College Game Day analyst and sneaky
athletic former Colts punchers there. Thank you, Bud,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio Our one.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Ats Dan Patrick
Show got a lot of topics to dive into. And
speaking of diving into, the triathlon is underway. They are
swimming in the sand river the Okay, if it was
a Sherman Williams or Crayola crayon color, what color would
you have or label the send river? It is brownish
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greenish tope, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I would say, like a matt olive, like a matted Okay,
you have olive?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay. Anybody else have a color that they would recommend. Yes, time,
like a forest green, worst green? Okay. Yeah, it depends
on you know, the shading and the sunlight and how
it looks. And I mean this is where NBC should
have said, you know what, we've got some lenses we
can on this. We'll make it crystal clear blue. It'll
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look great like it's Hawaii. I would not go in there.
They're in there, but I and unless I was rescuing
somebody in my family, I don't think I would go
in there. And it's kind of hard to swim in
a triathlon and keep your mouth shut. The whole time.
(01:22):
You got to breathe at some point without you know,
bringing in inhaling some of Paris's finest water. There.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yes, Paul, it's kind of more of a tope color
with the sun hitting it at this time of day.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, all right, seet and poll question today at least
first hour is going to be what Well.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Right now, it's currently on my mind is are you
a little color blind?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Or no? Why?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Because you know we're just talking about the color of
the sand river.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And I didn't know this my whole life growing up,
but it turns out I'm a little color blind. And
it's with like brown and greens. Oh and so when
I look at that, I'm like, oh, it's kind of
I can't tell if it's brown or if it's green.
And like the house that I live in. My wife
and I argue all the time because I'm like, Babe,
that's a green house, and she's like, no, I picked
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out the color. It's brown, and all the time, like
you're telling that you cannot tell me that that house
is not green. She's like, I'm telling you it's brown.
And I think that she's just messing with me. But
it turns out she's not. Okay, so you're color blind
a little bit. Yeah, I think it's only with those
with those two colors.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Only men can be color blind. Does that sound right? Really?
I for some reason I heard that. Maybe I totally
made it up, but I thought only men are color blind.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yes, women can be color blind, so it's less common
than in men.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Hmm. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It makes sense though, because so many times I've come
home and there's dishes all over my whieboath? Are you blind?
You didn't see these clear things up?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So? What other pole questions do we have here?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
We got another one here from Paul.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You're a producer.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
If you won the silver men medal in the post
race interview, would you be gracious and thankful or salty
and unsatisfied?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Well, this depends on if you expected you were you
were expected to win or it's an unbelievable time that
you put up. I think that if you're a swimmer
and you finish second in the previous Olympics and you
go into these Olympics to finish second again, I might
be a little frosty about it. I don't know if
I would be a Yeah, what an honor just to
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get the silver, you go there to win the gold.
If you finish second the previous time, or you have
one of the top times, I don't think you get
out of the pool and you're like, well, very cheery
because you want to win the gold medal. So I
would say depending on the expectation level you going into
the Olympics too, what happened at the Olympics, because you
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could have your personal best and still finish second and
there's no shame in that. But if you're expected to win,
like Michael Phelps was always expected to win the gold,
Katie Ladecci like, they can't get out even when they win.
They're supposed to win, and that's tricky too. Like the
US women's basketball team, you can't get silver. But the
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US women's rugby team getting bronze is the biggest story
in the history of you know, women's rugby. What else
do you have there?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
See US men's gymnastics medaling was massive. I think did
they get a bronze in the team and they were
like going crazy because it had never happened, or it
hadn't happened in sixteen years or whatever it was. It
hadn't happened in a really long time and they were
going crazy. If someone Biles and the women's team finished bronze,
it would be a massive failure.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I just think it's the expectation level the men's basketball team.
They're expected to bring home the gold, and I don't
know what that would be like to be the favorite,
where Michael Phelps goes into the pool every time and
he was expected to win every time. Usain Bolt was
expected to win every single time, and even the joy
(05:02):
or trying to have joy in that where people go,
I saw you won the gold, what was your talent? Like,
it won't be god you won the gold. It'd be
like a personal best. And I don't know why we
think that every swimming event there has to be an
Olympic record, you know, like every year or every Olympics.
(05:23):
It'd be like, oh, oh that's a personal best, but
it's not an Olympic record.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
It is weird, Yeah, that we've come to expect like, oh,
they didn't even break the world record in this race.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah. And then I found out that the pool is
not as deep as other Olympic pools, and therefore that
might prevent some of these Olympic records being broken. I
thought we had a standard depth when it comes to
how deep a pool is for the Olympics, doesn't it
seem like it's like six and a half seven feet
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something like that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, Paul, Yeah, I don't want to be out of
my depth. But I did read a New York Times
article that said the speculation is the pool is a
little more shallow, which would churn the water differently, turn
the water back towards the swimmers, and possibly the cause
of it. Other people are saying it's just an anomaly
when there is or isn't world records because we don't
develop that fast.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay, but why is it not the same depth for
an Olympic pool. It's called an Olympic pool. I would
think there would be, Well.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It's not three feet, you know, it's still like a
regulation depth, but it varies. It has to be a
minimum and there is a maximum.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
No, But it's called an Olympic.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Pool, right, it can't be like twenty six meters compared.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
To the No, it should be the same depth with
length depth.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
According to the article, the depth can vary the length
of Why.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I don't know why it's an Olympic pool. Why are
we okay with that? In some sports and not others. Well,
you know a baseball stadium, that's the character of it.
You know that that's your ballpark, and you hold your
team in accordance to what your ballpark looks like. The
basket NBA basketball floor, it's the same. Now, you do
(07:07):
have hockey arenas rinks that were different sizes down through
the years, which I always found kind of strange. But no,
I would think.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's called an Olympic pool, and there's Olympic specifications there, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, According to the Olympic website here, the minimum depth
of Olympic approved pool is one point three to five
meters and says, yeah, Olympic pools must actually be deeper
than that the world aquatics for normal Olympic races. For
the Olympics, it must be two point five meters.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Okay, how many feet is that?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Great question? Okay, probably three times that, so it's.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Like six and a half feet something like water polo.
I think the pool is six and a half feet.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
The temptation to touch the bottom, yes.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But you can't. But I think it's six and a
half feet for a water polo.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It does seem odd though that swimmers, like so many
good ones like the marquee names are finishing like a
second or a second and a half behind what their
normal time is.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, that does seem odd. Yeah, maybe it's because the
depth of the pool.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yes, Paul, believe it or not, there's actually a lifeguard
on duty during the Olympic events. You'll see a gentleman
it looks like Olympic swimmer in shorts, the tight shorts,
sitting right at the edge of pool. He's the actual lifeguard.
He's paid to save anyone.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Has he ever saved anyone? Has anybody ever been saved
during a swimming event? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
But if we don't when the Olympics are in LA
in four years, if we don't have a bay Watch
themed lifeguards on duty, then we're failing as a nation.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That may be the new best job in sports, Olympic lifeguard,
because it doesn't seem like there's a lot of incidents.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, but it seems really boring. Yes, you're just sitting there,
not doing anything. At least if you're a lifeguard in
you're at the beach, you get some scenery there instead
of Okay, here's the four hundred meter I am doesn't
sound like fun. All right, So any other poll questions there, Yeah,
I think we're gonna go with those couple.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I mean, we could throw in a who won the
MLB trade deadline if you'd like.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, that's a little more complicated. I'll let Tom Berducci
tell me that in an hour from now. Yeah, who
won the trade deadline? There was a flurry of activity.
I was watching the mother ship. There was a flurry
of activity with those loading up, those trying to unload.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So someone describe it as absolute carnage. The last forty
eight hours has been an absolute carnage.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Carnage. Yeah, that's pretty fun. But carnage sounds like it's
a negative. Is carnage a negative word? I would think
it is. I would think frenzy would be a little
bit better. Frenzy, Okay. Carnage sounds like slaughter of a
great number of people, as in battle, butchery, massacre, yes,
(10:04):
fighting or other violence, brutal carnage. I don't think anybody
died yesterday, negative tones.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I don't think so hopes and dreams died yesterday. Tea
selling Yeah, carnage, yes, carnage, Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, that's that's not the right word. Frenzy flurry of
activity Bonanza eight seven seven three DP Show email address
DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show.
So Tom Berducci will assess the winners and losers of
the trade deadline, and then Pat McAfee will join us
coming up in the final hour of the program. As
(10:39):
we look at the you know the it kind of
came out in a sneaky way yesterday with the official
official rules of the kickoff the on side kick. I
give us a little surprising that it kind of trickled out,
and you're like, wait a minute, I thought we already
solved this, settled this. It's like they did until they
got back and they fine tuned it, and they just
(10:59):
wanted to make sure that everybody understood exactly. Hey, you
have to tell the opposition you're gonna have an on sidekick.
You can't use it until the fourth quarter. You have
to be behind when I didn't know that there were
all these addendums to that rule. But McAfee, being a
former kicker on the kickoffs and a All Pro punter,
(11:20):
he'll join us coming up a little bit later on
as well.
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grades here. So who gets an a yesterday for trade
deadline moves?
Speaker 7 (12:24):
San Diego Padres, Let me start with them, Dan, I
mean it's no surprise that we saw twenty of the
thirty four players traded yesterday were relief pitchers. I mean,
that's what wins these days, that's what the game is,
like it or not, and a lot of us don't
really love it, but especially in the postseason, they went
out and got two of the best. Definitely the best
on the top of the market was Tanner Scott, the
left handed pitcher, and then Jason Adam. And this team
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has been playing really well for the last let's say
three weeks, so they're riding some momentum. And I just
think that they're starting pitching the way they spin the ball,
and now the bullpen, with the way they take care
of the sixth and then on they became to me
a really dangerous playoff matchup for anybody, whether that's Phillies
or Dodgers. So I'll start with San Diego. I did
(13:05):
like what the Dodgers did getting Jack Flaherty. I thought
he was the best starting pitcher available. It tells you
how unsure they are DAN about their options when they
get to October, about their rotation, and they bought themselves
a little certainty.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Give me the top three teams in the National League.
Have the Padres elevated themselves with the Dodgers in the Phillies,
I think they have Dan.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I think the Phillies. I still think the Phillies are
the best team top to bottom, but they've gone through
a rough patch here that's probably I want to say
it's about thirty thirty five games. It's gone for a while.
Right now, they're not hitting, which is kind of a
good thing because I don't worry about that with that lineup.
They tried to fix their bullpen. I liked what they
did and getting Carlos the staves. What was really interesting
(13:47):
is they had two guys who they lost complete confidence
in in Sir Anthony Dominge and Gregory Soto, and the Orioles.
The best team in the American League East took those
two players. I don't like the idea Dan of adding
players where you're per rejecting that they're going to be better.
I want guys who are better right now, and I
make the deal so they're plug and play, hit the
ground running.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Your top three teams in the American League. Did they
change it all after yesterday?
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Probably not to me. It's still New York Baltimore and
I'm actually gonna have Cleveland three. I did love the
Cleveland pickup of Alex Cobb, and you're saying, well, wait
a second, this dude hasn't pitched an inning get this year.
I love their bullpen. I love the way they put
the ball in play. I love the way they run
the base is they're short, or they were short starting pitching,
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and they've got a guy who's got a fresh arm,
who's a hip injury he's coming back from and as
long as he turns out to be okay, and all
systems seem like their go I love the idea that
adding a real veteran gamer. He is a gamer, competitive guy.
So that was a really key pickup for me.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Why didn't the Cleveland Indians change to the Cleveland Spiders
as opposed to the Guardians.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
Because they had that rich history as one of the
worst teams ever.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Right, But it's a great, great nickname. It's a great mascot.
I mean there's great upside with that.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
It is a great nickname. I mean, just think about
the mascot. What the uniforms could look like. Can you
imagine a City connect uniform for the Cleveland Spighters. I mean,
everybody'd be wearing it for a Halloween costume. I think
first graders would love it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It was awesome.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
I don't know, maybe there was just some I don't know,
copyright issues. I don't know what it was. I kind
of like, I kind of like the Guardian's name. When
you figure out what it means. On the face of it,
you're like, what the heck is guardians? Guardians at the
Galaxy know that Bridge and Cleveland and I actually like
the name and the meeting behind it, but it does
take some research to appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
We were talking this morning prior to the show with
all the moves that were made, and we can't help
but think about Mike Trout that he's I guess had
a set back and you know his rehab. What is
he thirty two?
Speaker 7 (15:58):
I mean, not much hope, and you know a lot
of times the game turns over quickly these days, and
yet you look at the Angels and they're a long
way off DN. I mean, they didn't have much to
do here at the deadline. They probably could have done more,
but farm system is not great. I love Mike Trout
and I love the fact that he is so loyal,
(16:21):
and a lot of people use that against him. They say, well,
why shouldn't he just you know, tell Ardie Moraine or
the Angels. He wants out of there so he's a
chance to win. This is this guy sitting around there
for twenty one twenty two picks on the draft day
and the Angels took him. They extended his contract twice
before he was a free agent. It's really out of
nothing more than loyalty, loyal toy, family to the Angels.
(16:42):
I don't hold that against them, but man, it is
a shame that really the best player of this generation,
we've kind of forgotten that he is. Right, Yeah, has
never really had the chance that one chance early in
Kansas City, they got slappy and swept. He's never won
a postseason game. Mike Trout is crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And I don't know if the Angels just say, let's
do what's best for the Angels and trade him. You're
talking about loyalty from the like Kevin Garnett. He was
loyal to the Timberwolves, loyal, loyal, loyal, and then what
happened They trade him to Boston. Now it worked out well,
but at some point the Angels have to look at
this and say what is best for us and what
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can we get from Mike Trout.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Yeah, it's the problem now is he's just been hurt
so much dan that they'd have to pay down that
contract to move it. And he's still extremely popular. I'll
say this about Mike and This has been true from
day one. If you go to an Angels game, literally
every game is out there before the game, signing autographs
for kids. I mean, people bring their families to watch
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Mike Trout play. He hasn't played a lot in the
last three or four years.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
How could a team be as bad as the White Songs.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
It must take a lot of work, huh. I hear
a lot from players Dan about how their player development
system is really not good. It's thirty out of thirty.
I'm talking about even at the major league level, or
finishing off players and developed them. And you just hear
this time and time again again that some of the
players they've had with talent just don't ascend, say a
(18:16):
Johan Mancata. I even look at Michael Kopek. He was
traded one of the deals than the Dodgers, right, mark
that name down. He's going to be a beast in
the postseason. He's got a fastball to me, that's got
properties like Garrett Cole. He's got some issues with his
slider in command that Dodgers will fix him. I believe
they're probably let's say top five in player development and nowadays,
as you know, Dan, guys get pushed to the big leagues.
(18:38):
Player development is not just about the minor leagues anymore.
It's how good your major league staff is.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We're talking to Tom Berducci, Fox Sports, MLB Network. Is
there a pitcher comes to mind comparable to Paul's schemes
in how he hit the majors his first year?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I mean, the obvious one would be Strasburg, right, you know,
I can see some similarities there.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
For me.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
Is nobody better I saw as a phenom, so to speak,
because Dwight Gooden Dwight was nineteen years old, had two pitches.
Two pitches. They were both like otherworldly and people sometimes
he was tipping his pitches. People knew it was coming
and nobody could hit him. I mean, I still think
that's the best feed ump. And he was nineteen years old.
Skins is a really college polished twenty one year old.
(19:27):
He had essentially a major league pitching coach in college,
and Wes Johnson. If you watch him pitched in it's funny.
He does throw a hundred. We all love velo, right.
His forcing fastball might be his quote unquote worst pitch
because batters can hit velocity in today's game. But he
knows how to pitch. That splinker thing he's got combo
of a splitter and a sinker is just filthy. But
(19:50):
watching him pitch and all the importanents say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
As impressive as his stuff is, it's what he's doing
with it. His baseball IQ is off the sharks. So
right now he must watch whenever he's got the baseball
in his hands.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Is there a pitch that leads to or makes it
more susceptible to Tommy John surgery?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
That is a great question. For years, they used to
say the split finger put a lot of stress on
the elbow because if you just take a baseball wedget
there between your fingers and hold it there long enough,
you start to get a little tension in your elbow.
Right But I think Dan, it's more about not an
individual pitch. But the two biggest factors are overuse and
(20:35):
poor mechanics, And very few guys now are overused. Right now,
we have a third issue, which is pure velocity. I mean,
I hate to say it, the guys who are throwing
upper nineties time and time again are at risk because
there literally is more strain on the elbow. Think about this.
We've done so well. In terms of mechanics, very few
(20:56):
guys go out there in the major leagues with really
bad mechanics. Now they're very careful, probably too careful right
the way they cut back on eynings and pitch counts.
But what you can't do is you can't do anything
about that ucl that little ligament your elbow. You can
strengthen all the muscles that you want, have the most
efficient delivery that you want, but when you're throwing one
(21:16):
hundred miles an hour, that little ligament literally cannot stand
the force from that, over and over and over again.
It's not going to change because the game pivots on
velocity and if you watch kids at showcases, they're all
trying to throw as hard as they can. And people
have just signed up for that risk that, yeah, one
day I'm gonna blow out, but they'll fix it and
I'll get back out there.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Is it just me? Or it sounds like literally sounds
like the ball leaving Otani's bad is different than anybody
else in baseball. No, that's a great call, But why
is that? I mean, the other guys can hit it
as far, if not farther, But there's a sound, there's
a quality to that where it's like that's different.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
I used to say that about Wang gon Zalaz back
in the day. A few guys really jump out when
it comes to Albert Pooles. There is a difference sound.
There's no question about even the players that they know
that you can close your eyes in VP and know
that okay o, Ty's the cage right now. First of all,
if you stood next to him, you realize that dude
is big. I mean, he's got like this Michael Phelps body.
(22:20):
He's freakishly flexible, and he's got these long levers. So
you think, all right, he's kind of wiry strong. No,
he has built like a tank man and he's got
those long levers. So he's got tremendous leverage in the baseball.
And he's really learned how to backsmin the baseball high
in the air, so his fly balls, when sometimes he
hits the ball looks like a fly ball and it's
(22:41):
like way out. He's got that gift man where there's
just another gear to the ball leaving in bat.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Always great to catch up with you, Tom, Thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Always a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Dad.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
If you were favored to win a gold and you
win a silver, I'd be a little frosty. Yes, Todd,
I'm just.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Kind of creative.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
What if we did four years of shows and you know,
you don't even come in the top three of sports
talk shows or something like that, that would be frustrating.
And they just four years of shows and you just
don't even come away with anything.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Why would you say that to McAfee's never been nominated
and he's joining.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Us, That's why would you that's on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, that's terrible, Pat, I'm sorry, I mean it's on
the horizon. Yeah, it's on the horizon. Pat, I apologize
for my people. Thanks for joining us here.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
Hey, it's an honor Dan, honestly, and to be clear,
you need in your show has been a trailblazer in
this world. Your show, with the big old brains that
they have, should be acknowledged by the Sports Emmys people,
but they won't because the Sports Emmys people are dumb,
which is why, I uh, until you win one, we're
not even entering We don't even enter our show.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
So we haven't even entered our show.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
We won't until you get one at least, and then
hopefully we'll still exist sometime after that, and if we
decide to enter into the Sports Emmys world and play
their little game, hopefully we'll be able to take one.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Help you know, well, thank you, thank you for that support.
If you were like summer Olympics, what kind of sport
could we see you in?
Speaker 9 (24:24):
So this morning, six am our guy jaw jj last
name from California, who committed his entire life to table tennis.
Pretty much, he's the furthest that we've ever had in
American men's single advance into the Olympics. Just made to
the round of sixteen. I consider myself a pretty good
table tennis player. I can ping pong with the best
of them in a garage, couple beers, maybe some edibus,
(24:44):
maybe some smoke, what you name it, But I think
that would be I think that would be the sport
I would want to get into the most. Definitely not
the poop river swimming one, but the other ones. I
would just love to represent the United States with America.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I could see you rugby, like I think you're sneaky athletic.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Well thanks, thanks, ye, I was a professional athlete of undefeated,
of WrestleMania.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
You know, all those types of things. Non as athletic
as you.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
But but yeah, rugby, I would want to be like
Spiff Cedric, the girl that took that thing ninety five
yards yesterday for the big time win, that we kicked
the extra point and we end up beating the hell
out Australia for the bronze medal.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
It would be cool to be that. I'm not tough
enough though we all know that not tough enough for that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But I've watched the show. You start the show, you're
you're red, white and blue man, You're all over these Olympics.
You got it right now, Yeah, you got your USA
Red White and Blue shirt on there.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Don't you think we need it?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Then?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Like I think I think we need it.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
And I appreciate the fact that it does feel that
people from all walks of life support all of these sports.
You know, once these sports and competitions come every four years,
you get introduced to a brand new group. And with
the swim qualification trials happening here in Indianapolis at Lucas Oil,
I got a chance to go into the swimming community
for like a night and watch out goes the amount
of passion, the amount of like everything that they have
(25:58):
for their sport, for the country, for everything. It's just
like it's a beautiful thing. And I like to be
gross grotesquely obnoxious about America being better than everybody else,
and we've been able to have the opportunity to do
that for the last few Olympics.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
And it's great.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
If I said you could have Michael phelps career Tom
Brady's career.
Speaker 9 (26:17):
Well, I've had a hole in my ear drum for
like two decades. So keep me out of the water.
You know, I'll keep me out of the water. Give
me seven Super Bowls, give me a chance to be
a Hall of Famer for not only the NFL and
for New England, probably Tampa.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Bay's Hall of Fame. And then if I was Tom.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
Brady and I had his career, I would never sign
up for a Netflix roast. So that's just kind of
the one little change that I would make. But give
me Tom Brady. Even though I love Michael Phelps. He
was literally on our show yesterday.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Okay, why did Tom sign up for that? Abuse?
Speaker 9 (26:51):
I think it was probably a pretty hefty check from
what I've told you know, from I think we've all
heard about it, the amount of money that was potentially given.
And then I think his production company too, probably has
a couple more deals with Netflix cooking there. And I
genuinely don't think he knew how talented the brains are
that are in the stand up comedy world at this
current time. I think that's what was on display during
(27:12):
those roasts. I mean, obviously, kill Tony is something that
happens every single week where they just roast everybody, and
then you start thinking about Nicky Glazer, what she was
able to do. Andrew Schultz, like this group of comedians
right now that is kind of leading us into the
next wave of comedy. And Shane Gillis wasn't even there.
I would, I mean, that would have been the perfect
human to put in there. But like this new group,
their brains are too good. And I think that roast
(27:33):
was obviously spectacular for us to watch, but it was
too good. We'll never get another one, at least until
the next generation forgets how strong the comedians' brains are.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I think personal were you asked to take part in
that roast.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
No, I was not at all.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Would you have done it?
Speaker 5 (27:47):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no way. I don't
like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
I don't want I don't like I get roasted enough.
You know, I already get roasted enough in my life
in day to day. And I don't know how you've
done this for as long as you've done it in
this sports world, because I assume everybody has respect for you,
as they should. There's a lot of respect for me
amongst other people that are in the sports world, sports
journalist world. So I get roasted a lot on a
regular basis. So I wouldn't sign up for something to
(28:11):
go sit on a stage to get absolutely roasted by everybody.
That would be a difficult decision. I'd rather good vibes.
But I am certainly wanted to watch the drama like
I will watch the Real Housewives of Orange County. But
I did not want to be in the Real Housewives
of Orange County, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Talking to Pat McAfee. One of the reasons why well,
the reason why we want to have you on. Of course,
you were an iconic kicker punter kickoffs. Now we have
the official rules that came out that kind of like, oh,
by the way, here are the official rules if you
have to be a losing team in the game and
it has to be a fourth quarter and you have
(28:46):
to announce it. Your thoughts on that, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
Think the onside kick was something that was very special
to football for a very long time. At any moment
in the fourth quarter or if your team was behind,
there was a glimmer of hope that a kicker was
going to be able to hit a perfect ball and
then the guys on the kickoff team were going to
be able to make some miraculous play and then oh, yeah,
we got this thing that has like a two percent
chance of success rate. But then also our quarterback's going
(29:13):
to have to go now another sixty yards somehow against
the defense that they haven't been able to do it
all game, which is why we're behind. So it was
like there was always a glimmer of hope. There was
always something that you could hold at the end of
the game and maybe get your team back into it.
But with the new rules that came with the kickoff,
with an elite run up and the amount of players
where they have to be, you can't overload you have
to keep the They kind of eliminated it from the
(29:34):
game by themselves. So the fact now that we'll never
see a surprise on sidekick again is a bummer. I
was on the field whenever Thomas morse Haid hit the
ambush at halftime the Super Bowl, obviously the biggest surprise
on sidekick in the history of the sport. They would
go on to win a Super Bowl, And honestly, that
was a wild night, incredible kick by Thomas.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Who was you did you? Could you sense it at
the time? Being a kicker watching a kicker like a
pitcher had tells, you know, with a pitch, like could
you sense anything that was happening?
Speaker 9 (30:05):
His little run up was interesting, you know because like
I did some surprise on side kicks in our run
with the Indianapolis Colts as well, and it was always
cool to get that call, you know, because anytime you're
doing one of those, if you fail, you're giving the
ball to the other team in very very favorable position,
and field position is literally what you're getting paid for
when you're a punter and a kickoff guy. So I
(30:26):
think you could see in his run up a little bit.
It might have been a little bit different. But Thomas
Morse to the guy that did that, actually taught me
how to punt going into the NFL. So he and
I very tight, like very close friends. So whenever I
see him pull that off, it's like, I'm pumped for him.
But also this sucks super Bowl at the age of
twenty two, So it's like the surprise on side kick
was a beautiful thing and it used to be something
(30:47):
that a lot of kickers take took a lot of
pride in. Like Sebastian Janikowski, he used to be able
to hit a high hop off, especially over in the
Coliseum whenever they played on that baseball dirt. He used
to be able to hit a ball off of the
grounds tow it which hurts you're groin, hit flexer and
your tow You got to really sacrifice a lot. Hit
that thing right in the ground. It would bounce up
through to the third floor almost and then come down.
(31:09):
They would be able to get the jumper. Mason whenever
he was at the Packers, had a great one. It
was like something that a lot of people worked on
and it was something you took a lot of pride
in because if you had the opportunity to do it, you're.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Actually affecting the game. It's a turnover.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
You're changing the game completely at the kicker position, which
you can't always do. At the punter position you can't
always do. So it became something that guys started working
on less and less and less, and then with the
way the rules changed, it seemingly just kind of worked
itself out. But now with the new kickoff rules, that's
going to be weird to look at. I think with
the landing zone and where the team's gonna be, where
the kicker is going to be. Obviously, the XFL had it,
the XFL doesn't have forty nine million eyes on it
(31:42):
whenever they're having games. It's a little bit different, so
I think people are gonna have to get used to that.
But they're trying to keep it in the game. They're
trying to evolutionize it all. But the onside kick, I
think has been sacrificing compromise for a few years now
and now it's officially out, which is a bummer.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I'm not happy about it at all.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Could you call an audible and do an on side
kick when you were with the Colts.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, so the one I hit to myself against the
Houston Texans was not called I mean that.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That was all me.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
And if I don't get that, I just get up
and just walk right out of that statement.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
You know that is that's on Thursday night football.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
But the reason why that happened is because we hit
a surprise on sidekick to the left earlier in the season.
We hit a surprise on sidekick to the right earlier
in the season, so teams started putting their hands teams
up against us for every single kickoff. And that actually
became the case study that NFL used for the iteration
of the kickoff. That it was where you had ten
or eight people up within twenty yards of the ball
(32:35):
because we faced the hands team for every single kickoff.
So like I had the highest touchback percentage, like maybe
in the history of the NFL, because teams couldn't set
up a return, so I would hit that thing like
one yard in the end zone, they would have to
take a knee because their hands team was in there
because they didn't want to get hit by a surprise
on side. So I'm just stealing stats here, you know,
I'm loving everything about it. I don't have anywhere near
the talent of everybody else. But we're looking out but
(32:56):
they're on the right, they're on the left. The middle
was wide open as you can see in the thing.
So yeah, I just I gave a little hamstring tap
to my guys, basically said stay out of there.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Hit it to myself.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
It worked out and most athletic thing I've ever done
in my entire life. But if I don't get that,
Chuck Pmgono says, get your just got quit, you know,
hang up the helmet, hang up to Jersey.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
How does the new expansion in playoffs in college football
not work?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Duh?
Speaker 9 (33:19):
The only way it doesn't work is, I mean there's
gonna be like the thirteenth team is going to be
debated now, you know. Like obviously, Florida State last year
was incredibly pissed because they didn't make it in they
had their.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Third string quarterback.
Speaker 9 (33:30):
I don't think anybody with a sane mind outside of
Florida State thought that a third string quarterback should lead
a team into a fourteen playoff. And I think what
the college football playoff last year was fantastic. If I
was a Florida State player, Florida State family member, Florida
State alumni, I would have been mad as well. Like
I'm not happy, I understand why they were mad, but
I think as a college football fan, that was the
right decision. Now it's going to be the thirteenth team
that's going to get discussed, and there's going to be
(33:52):
a Power five school that's going to get in over
somebody that had a great year that's going to tie.
So I think the only way it doesn't work is
with the dramas going to come from who gets in
who doesn't get in. But for me, home field playoff
game is going to be absurd. College football is something
that I've been baptized into here over the last couple
of years of college game day, the pageantry, the tradition,
the fans, the environment, like everything that is college football.
(34:16):
Obviously on the field, it's amazing. So now we're getting
to see it in a very important game, in a
big game. I think that's going to beautiful. I think
this is going to be the biggest and best college
football season of all time. And I know there's a
lot of college football people, old heads that aren't necessarily
happy about that, because the world is changing quickly in
front of our eyes, and we don't want to lose
Saturday football and turn it into Sunday football. But this year,
I think he's going to beautiful. I think it's going
(34:37):
to be a stone into the new direction of college
football is going, and it's going to be great. That's
how I feel personally.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, I think Saturdays is kind of leaking into Sunday though. Pat,
I think we're going to get there. I think they're
just going to take the NFL model, and you might
have forty teams, forty schools, and maybe they're you know, divisions.
You have an AFC NFC type going to pay them
revenue sharing, and you're basically gonna, you know, do what
they do, have playoffs and then have a Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (35:06):
It's interesting, Dan, because like in theory, that would make
sense too, And I think we've kind of batted around
the ball a little bit on how it's, how it
would work, how wouldn't work. Chip Kelly came on our
show whenever he was still the head coach at UCLA,
and he kind of laid it out. He was like,
the NFL has this right, and I pitched this a
few different times. You obviously just have divisions and conferences.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
You can separate it.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
By this, we all go under one roof and then
all of a sudden, we have more leverage with TV,
we have more this, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. But it's like,
how do they how do they institute that? You know,
like the NFL works, because obviously it's been around a
long time, one hundred plus years, but like Roger Goodell
is the person and now obviously he's working for ownership,
but at least there's one person that is kind of
at blame or at fault or to credit for things
(35:47):
that are happening, and that's it. He gets paid very
well to do that for college, to get all the deans,
the presidents, the athletic directors, the coaches all to get
on the same page, which is why we are in
a transition era that I don't know how long it's
gonna last because in theory we all have answers, but
how they get instituted. I have no idea, Like, you're
gonna need some very important people, smart people, some people
(36:07):
that can sway people, business people like and also sports people.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Greg Sank Greg Sank, I would just say, Greg, here
you go. He could be even better than Goodell. And
then I would just kind of put it in his lap.
You want to have, you know, co with Tony Petiti
with the Big Ten. Okay, but it feels like there's
a top heavy college football talent base and then there's
(36:33):
other ones that are stragglers. But can you imagine relegation, Pat,
How great would that be that all of a sudden,
North Dakota State is playing, Vanderbilt goes down, Northwestern gets
kicked out? You know, be fun. I don't even know
if those schools would even get in, but I think
you could have some real fun with that relegation. Last day,
(36:54):
last game you're watching, You're going to nobody cares about
this game until you care about this game.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah. The only issue with that is Danny.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
You know this because you've had to deal with suits,
I assume for a long long time. The presidents of
these schools, you know, who have pretty good says is like, hey,
there's a chance next year you guys aren't going to
be in the Big Ten in your rev Instead of
like eighty million TV deal, you're gonna get like six
million next year. And it's like, oh, we're building a
new building because we remember.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
We have to do it.
Speaker 9 (37:22):
So It's just like college ball is awesome, college passion
and loyalty is fantastic. It's like, we need to keep that,
need to evolve, need the players to make money, don't
need them to get screwed over. And these nil deals
where they're not paying them out, but who's going to
be in control?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Sankee would be awesome. I love that, man. I think
what he's remember.
Speaker 9 (37:40):
COVID came around, Big ten said we're not playing pac
twelve said we're not playing IVY League, so we're not playing.
Greg Sankey got a podium and said, we're playing football
in the SEC. I don't even know what we're talking about.
He stood in the fire, has numerous times, has led
the SEC. Obviously feels good about it. But that's a
massive task for him take on to save the entire cime.
But hopefully he'll do it because, uh, I agree with you.
(38:02):
There's a lot of opportunity with the great sport of
college football.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
You got to pace yourself, pace yourself this fall. Okay,
are you going to Dublin? Oh?
Speaker 9 (38:11):
Yeah, taking the show to Dublin. We're actually taking our
show to Dublin. I do believe we're in talks right now.
With a pub in Dublin to take our show on
Friday over there before Georgia Tech and Florida State on
Saturday on ABC. That's gonna be quite a start. And
I'm a little worried. You're talking about pacing yourself once
those Guinna you know, those Guinnesses started. I really I
(38:32):
don't know if that's the plural for a Guinness or not,
but fun funk you want they start flowing over there?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
No, no, no, But you're good because you're later in the afternoon.
We went over there last year for the Notre Dame
Navy game and our show started too in the afternoon,
and we brought Will Ferrell over. We rented out a
pub we were able to sleep in. I mean it's
it's it's dangerously accessible, let's put it that way. So
(38:58):
I would have your guys sign a waiver and you know,
maybe there's a blood alcohol content that you measure each
day when they come in.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
See, I'm a little bit worse because if we start
doing that in Dublin, then we gonna.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Start doing it here too.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
And uh, you know, couple my guys much better when
her boost. Yeah, it's good. It's a long season.
Speaker 9 (39:16):
Though, Dan, I think my guys have been playing this
two K college football NCAA twenty five game, and one
of their big takeaways is like, hey, these are long seasons,
Like this season is long now with the twelve team
playoff and with what it's gonna become with the Big ten,
the SEC, what they're going to talk about conference play
and everything. If somebody goes undefeated, now, it's gonna be
(39:38):
like the greatest feat in the history.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Like it's long.
Speaker 9 (39:41):
Yeah, long seasons on of big time matchups, new rivalries
should be a blast, but yeah, long year.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
It's gonna be a long season, long season.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Thank you, Bud. Baby's good.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Hey, McKenzie's awesome. She has had to check up this morning.
Uh seventieth percent out for everything. She loves to eat boys,
she loves me. She got my taste, Buds. That's not
fantastic news. But mom's good. Baby's good. Life is good.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
How are you guys? Great?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Everything's good? Every day is the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Hey, you're damn right, Dan, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Every day?
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Is Fritz's first name?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Todd? Todd? Yeah, Tod, jeez, I don't.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Have his number saved.
Speaker 9 (40:15):
I get a text in any big one, Hey would
like to see you here, and it says Todd, and
I'm like, I don't know Todd. So then Paula text me.
Paul texts me, He's like, hey, you come on. And
then all of a sudden, I get a text from
Todd again and I'm like, oh, and I google it.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
I go Fritz's name's Todd. That's on me. I want
to let Todd know that I apologize.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Feel free to block that number if he went wow,
I thought.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
I blocked it already. That's why when I don't know
who it was. You know, but I appreciate you having
me on.
Speaker 9 (40:44):
You're the best. You guys are the best, and that anything. Honestly,
I know in the way you all came up, which
I assume is through like journalism school everything, you know,
like that whole thing, I understand that you guys will
hold that in high regard and you certainly own one.
But don't play these hop its games. Okay, you guys
have won enough Emmys in all of our eyes. Don't
worry about MLB tonight, taking one away from the Dan
(41:06):
Patrick Show, your legends.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
We appreciate the hell out of you, and thanks for
having me on.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
You better round of blows there, Pat mccaffe verry kinins,
verry kinon when nobody else believed in US, Pat did,
It's the future.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
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athletic former Colts punchers there. Thank you, Bud,
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