October 30, 2024 • 32 mins
Dan recaps Game 4 of the World Series and thinks the fans that interfered with Mookie Betts should be banned from returning for Game 5. FOX MLB analyst John Smoltz discusses whether or not the Yankees have enough momentum to send the series back to Los Angeles. And former NFL QB Chris Simms shares who his MVP of the NFL is right now.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our one on this Wednesday, down a Danette, And
that means Marvin has to do double duty in the
front row as Paulie is out. But Fritzy's here the
minister of humor and Seaton as well yours truly in
the back room. Guys, well, I don't know if you
can say we have a series, but at least we
have a little more of a series after last night.
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Not surprised the Yankees won, but it's one of those
where they keep piling up runs and I go, I
don't know if this is going to translate into tonight.
You know when you all of a sudden have this
outburst and you go, boy, that's going to help them,
that's going to propel them. Maybe they figured something out.
I thought it was kind of interesting. I was keeping
an eye on Aaron Judge. Now he had a good
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eye at the plate. He had an RBI single, but
he got on base four times and they got some
help from somebody aside from the Big Three. Anthony Volpi
hitting the Grand Slam there. That's what you need in
the World Series. You need to have those playoff heroes
where you got the guys who are getting paid the
big bucks. But then sometimes the pitcher will relax and
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maybe he'll look at somebody differently than he would Aaron
Judge or Freddie Freeman. By the way, Freddie Freeman unbelievable.
I mean, right now he's the runaway leader for MVP,
and rightfully so. It's not even close. But Anthony Volpi
is second on the DraftKings MVP list. After last night
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(01:51):
Smoltz on the call last night. Johnny will join his
next hour to discuss everything that happened, including the fan
involvement with Mookie Bets crazy crazy moment. Now we've seen
interaction before, We've seen fans go on the field. That
one I didn't understand. It's not like you were trying
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to take away a home run ball or you were
going to you know, prevent somebody from a you know,
catching a double off the wall. Whatever it was, it
was a foul ball and you're trying to pry it
out of Mookie Bets's glove and then the other guy
is accomplice will grab his hand. And from what I'm told,
they got kicked out last night. So they drove in
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from Connecticut and then you get there and then you
get kicked out in the first inning. And what I'm
told is that doesn't mean they can't go tonight, which
shocks me. There's one more game left at Yankee Stadium.
You just say, and you can't come back for Game
five either. Because they were getting a hero's welcome as
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they're being escorted out, you had grown men who were
you know, they were hugging them. I'm like, what did
they do? Just act like idiots? And then you're like, hey,
you know that's our territory. We're gonna we're gonna defend
our territory. I didn't know this was a turf war, yes, Marvin.
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And what do you think that car rider train ride
was like? Because they spent good money on those seats. First, first,
baseline of the World Series.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, like, what was that? What was that convo? Like afterwards?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I have no idea, but imagine you're getting ready and
you're gonna drive from Connecticut to the Bronx. You're gonna
go to the game. We got great seats. We're right there. Hey,
this ball's coming over. We're got to defend our turf here.
We're not gonna be like Bartman. We're gonna go in
there and pry the ball. What are you getting if
you get the ball out of his glove and then
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the other guy's grabbing Mookie's hand his arm, What are
you idiots doing?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, see they're getting active, playing their part. Yeah, yeah,
not on our turf. We're going to defend it.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You cross this line, right y, I'm taking that glove.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
They were trying to defend it too, Yes, no, no
glo right here, that's fair game.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
This is how it sounded last night on Fox. Why
the right buy Torres bets in the corner? Does he
have room fights.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
With a fan and they're gonna say that it's out
and fan interference? And yeah, Bett says that ball in
his glove and this fan literally tries to take his
glove off prize the ball out.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Of there a for effort. Well, he won't be watching
the game much longer.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
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(05:07):
right Chris Simms from Pro Football Talk. He will join
us and talk to him about a few things. The
Texans are without Stefan Diggs. Do they do anything prior
to the trade deadline? You know, if I'm Houston, I
asked the Jets if Davante Adams is available.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I mean, the Jets aren't going anywhere Houston. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Houston says, hey, we're fine, but okay, I don't think
you can ever have too many weapons. But I'd be
curious if you could just say, Hey, you know we're
going to play one another after the game. Could we
just have Davante stay with us? And then accompany us
to Houston. But that'll be the Thursday night game. You
got college football coming up tonight, you have the NBA games,
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you got the Lakers and the Caves. This will be
Browny's probably his last game before he goes to the
G League. I understand why Lebron wanted to take him
back home, and he'll get an opportunity to play a
little bit tonight, I'm sure, and then he'll play in
the G League. Then the question is on what occasion
do you bring him up? And I don't know if
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I would leave him down there as long as you can,
and if Lebron wants to bring him up for the
Christmas Day game, that's probably what's going to happen, all right, Seaton,
whole question first hour is going to.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Be the Yankee fans attempting to rip off Mookie Bets glove. Yeah,
it was hilarious or humiliating, it was those are the
only options. Yes, well it wasn't hilarious.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It was like in the face that one guy had,
like he was working really hard to get that ball
out of Mookie's glove.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Like I'm gouldn't get this ball out of here, and
I'm going Oh my god. Okay, here's another option. Okay,
the Yankee fans attempting.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
To rip off Mookie Bets the glove. They were Hero
or a zero. That might be the start of a
new segment, by the way, Hero zero or zero. Yeah,
high school hero, real life zero, Hero zero. That's a classic. Yeah,
we might be that might be the start. I can't
debut a new segment without without Paul. No, no, he'd
be very upset.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
At me right now. But Hero or zero might be
a new one, yeah, coming up. They were definitely zeros.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh man, I feel like their heroes.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Why are you apologizing for these Yankee fans?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm not apologizing for them. I just think it's hilarious.
Mookie Betts was not amused.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
John Smoltz is not amused either, But uh no, I
thought it was hilarious. I can tell. Do we have
any other pole questions? Should the Yankees start intentionally walking?
Freddy Freeman, Yes, sir, hell yes, you know who's homering tonight?
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Aaron Judge, Yes, yeah, Aaron Judge will homer tonight.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I had the Yankees winning two games, and so they
win tonight and you send it back to La.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You really can't tell though, right now, if the Yankees
just found their stride or if that's all they had
in the tank last night. I know, I really don't
know if it's going to be one of those things where, man,
they put up a lot of runs and then well
it's really you know, they got it was really.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
A sweep, was really gentlemen, sweet So Freddie Freeman Homer's again.
He's the first player in baseball history to homer in
the first four games of a World Series, and he's homered.
If you go back to when he was with the
Braves six consecutive World Series games, that's also a Major
League record. He's got ten RBIs in the first four games,
and that ties him third most ever in World Series
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history through four games. You had nineteen sixty where Mickey
Mantle and Bobby Richardson both had more. But that was
one of those weird World Series because I think every
Yankee win was they scored double figures against the Pirates,
and then the Pirates won all of their games, like
my one run, and then you had Bill Mazerowski with
the walk off home run.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
All right, eight seven, seven to three.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
DP show operator Tyler is sitting by and we'll settle
on our poll question once again. We will talk to
John Smoltz. Chris Simms will stop by as well. Anthony
Richardson got benched. Now they said that this isn't the Hey,
I got tired excuse as to why they set him down.
(09:29):
I'm going to say something that is going to sound strange,
but I do believe it, and that is Anthony Richardson's
comp so far his career in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Is Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
If you look at Josh Allen's numbers when he first started,
same amount of games, stats are very similar. I had
some real doubts about Josh playing the position, had a
lot of talent, he just at times didn't feel like
he knew the nuance of playing quarterback. Now it was
going to take him time coming from Wyoming, going in
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high expectations. Now he's the leading candidate for MVP. I'm
not comparing them as far as their personality. I'm just
looking at the results of Anthony Richardson and Josh Allen,
and both had problems. Both have had problems. Josh has graduated, obviously,
Anthony Richardson has to decide if he wants to be
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a professional quarterback. Sometimes you have all this talent, and
then you get to the league where everybody else has
talent as well. You could get away with a lot
of these things. He was one of those guys at
Florida where you watched and you went, there'd be a
highlight and you go, oh my god, I'm ever seeing
him with like a I don't know, eighty yard run
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and I.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Go, that's a quarterback. And then you wouldn't see anything else.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
There wouldn't be any other highlights, and I kept thinking, Okay,
is this guy any good? You go to the combine
and all of a sudden, people love to fall in
love with somebody who's just running in their shorts.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Man, look at him. Okay, I want to see what
he does on the football field. I want to.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
See can he run a team? Does he make decisions?
All of those things? And he relies on his athleticism
too much and he gets hurt, gets banged up. He makes,
you know, bad decisions. That's why he should be benched.
Not that hey, I'm tired after that run. It's he
was like two for sixteen, and I said, take him
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out of the game. I understand the way quarterbacks are
now they're ready to go, or a lot of them
are like c J.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Stroud.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Now, all of a sudden, you look at Jayden Daniels,
Caleb Williams, you know, the quarterbacks. The rookie quarterbacks who
have played this year have played pretty well. Surprisingly. I mean,
Drake May has a terrible team around him, but he
has shown signs that he can be a franchise quarterback,
has shown signs. And then you have Jayden Daniels, who
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is an MVP candidate, and then Caleb Williams is you know,
still figuring out, but I expect him to be a
really good quarterback. But you're watching Anthony Richardson and it's
just not there. And that team can win that division
or at least be in the hunt for a playoffs
spot there, but not with him. Now Joe Flacco, once again,
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you can't say his name without his age. So thirty
nine year old Joe Flacco is going to get the
call for the Colts in the foreseeable future, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, you don't want Anthony Richardson to turn into JaMarcus
Russell where ten years later everyone talks about that one
time where they were wild by him, but he got
tired and he got out like that's such a bad
look for him. But Michael Parson said, lie.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yes, lie, yes, that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Hey, something's wrong with the headset or my chin strap
or contact lens. You don't wear contact lenses?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh I do?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Now, Like whatever it is, you can't say, man, I
got tired. You're twenty three years of age. You're an
incredible athlete. Yeah, I got tired out there. But if
I look at the Colts, you had Andrew Luck's retirement
in twenty nineteen. Then they kind of cycled through some
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recyclable quarterbacks Matt Ryan, Carson, Wentz, Philip Rivers, and then
Jim Irsay decides to fire Frank Reich and then brings
in Jeff Saturday.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Then you have.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Chris Ballard who was hired in twenty seventeen. He took
the swing on Anthony Richardson. Let's see anything else that
they've done. Yeah, I mean, this is what's happened with them.
They do have some talent there, but you can't get
consistent play out of your quarterback. It's just it's not
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going to work. And you know, here's Joe Flacco again,
and Joe Flacco knows what he can and can't do.
Maybe that's part of I go back to Josh Allen.
What you can and can't do, or what you should
or shouldn't do. That's what Anthony Richardson has to figure out.
And you got to put in the time because you
have the talent. It's like Kyler Murray, he had so
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he had more talent than anybody when he was in
high school, more talent than anybody was when he was
in college.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
And now you get to the pros.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Now is when you have to put in the time.
And these guys aren't used to doing that. The guy
who studies has to study, grinds, puts in the extra effort.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
That's the guy that has a chance.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
The guy who goes, eh, I just roll out of
bed and I can play quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
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John was all and then call for Game four last night. John,
thanks for joining us. Let's let's start with the Mookie
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Bets play. You've been around baseball a long time. Have
you ever seen anything that comes close to that?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
No?
Speaker 7 (15:13):
No, that was that was as bad as it gets.
I mean, you know, sometimes you lose your mind when
space and awareness, and I think that gentleman lost his all.
He believed that seat, that sphere was his and he
was going to get that ball no matter what. Luckily
nothing came of it. But you can imagine if your
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mookie bets just a sensation of somebody's grabbing not only
your glove, but if that wall's highed, he's suspended in
the air. So I was pretty confident when I made
a statement he's going to be ejected, and he was, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
But I think he's allowed back tonight. I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I don't think he's your ban for the rest of
the World Series or one more game. I think he
can come back to well, hero is welcome tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He could come back.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
You know, we've seen plays that have affected outcomes, obviously
famous plays Tony Tarasco and being the greatest miscall in
the history of calls. But at least this one is
in foul territory, and at least this one we have replays,
so it would have been easily easily overturned.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
And once again Freddie Freeman Homer's how do you explain this?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
John, It's really something I've been doing this a long time.
You don't see this switch come on very often. This
is not you know, sometimes when an athlete's hurt, we
make you know too much of it. This is not
making too much of it. This is actually an injury
that was severe that the time off allowed tremendous work
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to be done, and his timing and the ability to
hit with power. I can honestly say the first couple
of weeks, nobody expected him to hit a home run
because he couldn't hit off his front foot and to
do what he's doing. It's the reason why Freddie is Freddy.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I Sometimes we see a team that hasn't done anything
and then they have the offensive explosion, and then we
try to decide, okay, does that mean there's more of
that in store tonight? Or maybe that's their one one
chance to stand up and not you know, and to
avoid a sweep. So what side are you leaning towards tonight?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Well, in a world series, in a best of seven,
it's not like football, where the emotion can carry you
through a quarter or win a game, and you could
run through a wall and just ride that emotion. You
know the old adage, your next day starting pitcher is
your momentum. Right, they got Garrett Cole. But I said
this the other night, and I believe it that if
you can get some joke of energy from an unexpected
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source or just your star, you start seeing that energy.
Like I hate using the phrase, the team is flat.
The team's flat because they're not hitting. The team's flat
because they're not scoring runs. So you come to the
park with a little bounce in your step. But the
only reason you continue to play is if you do
those little things that they did last night, and they
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weren't doing it in three games leading up to it.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Talking to John Smoltz, John will be on the call
tonight as we have Game five at Yankee Stadium. I
mentioned this yesterday. You got to have those guys at
the bottom of the order who do something for you,
and that has been the difference for the Dodgers. The
Yankees got those contributions, and I go back to you know,
when you guys had Mark Lemke.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
There's always a guy.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You don't expect that guy to be a star, and
the Yankees, you know, they're kind of looking for that
can somebody pitch in here and help us? Do they
have a good enough lineup to be able to kind
of find that guy on a consistent basis going on?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Well, And that's the key, right, You get a lineup card.
As a pitcher, you circle certain guys and you go,
unfortunately or fortunately, I'm going to go make this guy
beat me. And when this guy beats you, it's a
shock to the system a little bit because you've taken
care of the big boys and then all of a sudden,
the length of the lineup. That's why the Dodgers are
so good. Look, they don't get enough credit because of
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everything that surrounds the payroll, the roster, you know, expectation.
But what the Yankees lacked so far in this series
is that depth, that bottom of the lineup. And if
they can get that going, the stress of the top
of the lineup is there.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It's real.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
The pitchers have to deal with that. So I think
the Dodgers have put more resources on bases. And then
last night, finally, I think six walks a hit batsman.
I mean, that's what the Yankees do when they win
baseball games.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And then it was.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Kind of an oh, by the way, but Judge gets
the base hit RBI.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Those are the kind of things I said.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
He needs to get a like a bleeder, something that
just finds, you know, soft landing there for a base
knock there. What are you seeing that he's doing or
not at the play? Well, yesterday he had a lot
of great takes. Most people say, well, big deal. No,
you got to start with a great take. You got
to stop swinging at those pitches. And then the pitcher goes, oh, shoot,
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he's not swinging at it. I got to get closer
to the plate or I'm gonna walk him. The fact
that he got on base four times is huge. I mean,
this is a narrative that he knows it's sometimes really
unfair for the great players to have to do great
things all the time.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
But it's a start. And I think he's a click away.
I really do. I said it, he's a click away
from really making a ball disappear into the sky, which
is what this Yankee crowd's been waiting for.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And what did you see with Otani?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He had that one at bat where he kind of
flailed at it, didn't look you on top of things
comfortable there.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Well, I say this all the time. If nobody knew
Otani had a shoulders injury and he was in the lineup,
the Dodgers are better.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So he's limited.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Look, he's this is not something that I don't think
people realize what he's doing. When you pop your shoulder,
you got information, you got small tears, you got an
uncomfortable you don't run normally holding your collar. I mean
that's just telling you the discomfort he's under. So he's
still a threat. He's eliminated though the threat of when
he gets on base, he's not going to steal. So
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all these things that go into it, they're still better
with him in there, as banged up as he is.
And yes, he's not completely right because he has to
make sure that he trusts what not getting hurt versus
being in the lineup to.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Help his team win this series go back to LA.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
You know, I've said the pressure turns when you have
to think about not you know, Dorodgers don't want to
bring the Yankees to LA. They still have a huge
decided advantage the series. The statistics talk about it, but
when you can win a game, you change the narrative
A little bit. The narrative is, oh, they got Garrett
Cole on the mountain and then oh, now it may
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switch to the Dodgers. You have to be so manally
top to not listen to the noise and the teams
that usually have been there done that, learn how to
do that.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Great to talk to you. Have fun tonight. Thank you again, John,
my pleasure.
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Speaker 3 (22:28):
Analyst.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I had a listener who said the following, if you're
the Texans, why not ask the Jets about Garrett Wilson?
Reunite Garrett Wilson with CJ.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Stroud.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
I mean that's not a bad thought. I mean I
understand that are the Jets really going to be willing
to part ways with Garrett Wilson, a guy that is
they of course drafted and what the top ten, top
twelve of the draft and has a lot of years
in front of them, and then what sell him off
for what? Maybe having DeVante Adams for another year. I
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think I understand that thought, and sure, call the Jets,
see what the price tag is. But that would be
a player that I would think that the Jets go.
He's in our scope way bigger than just this year
with Aaron Rodgers or even next year if Aaron Rodgers
comes back. I mean, receivers, as we know, can be
really quality football players for seven eight years into their
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NFL career, and I think he's got a lot of
years ahead of them. I would be shocked if the
Jets would part ways with him.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
When we see these eventual coaching vacancies Jacksonville, probably the Jets.
Obviously there'll be a few of these openings here. But
it used to be coaches would say I'm going to
be the head coach. It'd had nothing to do necessarily
with the quarterback. Now when you start to go, do
I want this job? Well, I want this job because
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I like the quarterback. Let's say the Bears job is open.
You like that quarterback? There are you sold on Jacksonville's
quarterbacking situation? Are you sold? You know the Jets are
going to be a rebuild after this year? Probably that
to me is it's not an attractive job if Aaron
Rodgers is still there.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
So right, yes, yes, you're saying it right, You're exactly right.
I don't think anybody's gonna want to go, oh, wait,
I want to be the head coach, a first time
head coach, and then oh go to the New York
Jets and basically have to bow down to Aaron Rodgers
for a full year and then him say Okay, I'm
out of here. I'm retiring, and then it's like, okay, wait,
now I get to implement what I want to do,
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and now we got to find a quarterback and all that.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Now the problem is, and you know.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
This, there's only thirty two of these jobs out there,
and there's more candidates than jobs open, more years than
not to where hey, at some point you just got
to go, Okay, the Jets are offering me, I'm not
going to get one of these other jobs, and I'm
going to take it. But yeah, there's definitely would be
I think hesitation with anybody out there about the Jets situation.
There's a lot to like about that roster, but you'd
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want to know where what Rogers is going to do
in the future, and you know what they're playing is
at quarterback for the future Jacksonville. That's an interesting one.
There's pieces there, but to me, it's going to be more.
Do you believe in Trevor Lawrence. He's there for a while,
he's signed up. He's not all the talent in the world.
But does he have the requisite feel? Does he love
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the game the way he should?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Should? Is he a Jim Rat?
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Those are the kind of things you hear about Trevor
Lawrence from time to time down in Jacksonville from people
who are in the know, And I think that would
give people some trepidation about taking that job as well.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I made the comparison maybe I'm the only person to
do this, Anthony Richardson and Josh Allen. When Josh Allen
first got to Buffalo, he was not a good quarterback
at all, right, And I looked at the numbers. They're
not far off from what Anthony Richardson has done. And
both high on potential, you know, coming from Wyoming playing
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against better quality opponents. Anthony Richardson, we saw glimpses here
and now they're going to bench him and you bring
in Joe Flacco, right, he's only twenty two, Like potential
gets you fired, Chris, And I don't know if Anthony
Richardson understands the magnitude of this, You know, is he
(26:17):
embarrassed by getting taken out of a game?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Has that ever happened? Never again? Ever?
Speaker 8 (26:22):
That's unheard of. That's especially from the quarterback. You know,
think about some of those offensive linemen. They're going, wait
on this drive when you were scrambled and we were
running around, and the pay before when you hand the
ball off, and just watch the guy we were blocking
three hundred pound men and then I was going to
the linebacker and the play before that when you handed
the ball off, we were working and you were just
sitting there watching the play. You ran twice and he
had to come out of the game. I mean, that's
(26:43):
a no no for anybody in football, let alone the
quarterback who's supposed to be the most in shape, mentally
tough person leader on your football team. That's where it's like,
that's I've never seen that ever before. And there's no
excuse for that, there's not. I mean, you obviously have
to run more wind sprints during the week and get
yourself in shape to do that. Lamar Jackson runs seven
(27:04):
miles every game I've never seen him tap out of
a game in my life. I mean Cam Newton throughout
the years, all these guys we know that have been
impressive runners. No, so I think that speaks a little
bit to his immaturity or you know, lack of maturity.
Right now, he is still young, he's still run.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
This is not the end of the road.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
This is not you know, last year, him getting hurt
and only be able to play four or five games
certainly hurt him, and that kick the can down to
this road. So where we're the road to this year,
to where he's still developing. But I hear you with
the Josh Allen comparison, I understand that totally. But with
Josh Allen too, I think the difference is I don't
remember Josh Allen ever going ten for thirty two. I
(27:43):
don't think Josh Allen was thrown for less than fifty
percent that year. And the biggest thing is Josh Allen
would hit the throws he's supposed to hit. Right now,
Anthony Richardson only hits like the bombs, like if it's
a wido and he can throw it one hundred miles
per hour or throw it.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
One hundred yards that's all he can do.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
But if it's a five yard crosser, a ten yard crosser,
he's got to throw a touch pass or a little
flick pass.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
The ball is everywhere, and that.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Is hard to sell to your team if you're Shane
Stichen that you're trying to win and you're in the
middle of a playoff race here and you're going with
the guy that's the second best quarterback in your football team.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And I think that's ultimately why they had to make
the move to flack out.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But if I look at the first ten games for
Josh Allen, first ten games for Anthony Richardson, Allen went
four and six, Richardson five and five. Completion percentage just
over fifty percent for Richardson, fifty two percent for Josh Allen.
If I look at you know the yards, you know
Josh threw for two hundred more yards over those ten games.
(28:43):
He Josh Allen had ten seven touchdowns, eleven interceptions, Anthony
Richardson seven touchdowns, eight interceptions, passer rating Anthony Richardson a
better passer rating.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
So I know it's about what's there to be had,
that's the biggest thing, right. I don't think that Buffalo
offense was all that great then and right now they're
in there. There's people open in Indianapolis. That's the problem.
Shane Stikeen's definitely one of the best playing design play
designers in football, So I think that's the big thing, right.
(29:16):
I'm not trying to say you're wrong or anything about that.
With Josh Allen, and I think I've said this to
you before. I never had a problem with his accuracy.
It might have been, wait, you can't fit that ball
in between those two guys and think you're gonna get
away with it, right, So there was like that they
had to get the garter rails on a little bit
to go.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Wait, you can't throw that. You can't fit that in there.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
This isn't Wyoming anymore where they need you to make
an incredible play every play if they want to stay
in the football game.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That was his big thing.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Anthony Richardson The problem is is you're seeing wide open
receivers and you're going, wait, the guy couldn't even get
his hand on the football or it wasn't even in
the screen. And I think that's where it's a little
bit different. You know, I'm big on you know this
from when I do my quarterback stuff on what's there
to be had?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Right, and I.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Think he's leaving a lot of yards on the field
as far as what's there to be had for that
offense in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Could you see.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Dion and Shoudour as a package deal? Ooh, that's interesting.
I hadn't thought about it as a package deal. I
think Deon Sanders has made for the NFL more than
he is college football. That would be my first assessment, right.
Dion doesn't want to recruit and do that stuff. Dion
wants to lead. He wants to get the guys ready.
(30:29):
He wants to walk in the meeting room and go, wait,
we can't do this. That's stupid, stupid in this, Let's
do that and that, and then you guys figure out
how to do all that. But I just I watched
the film and I'm an overseer and I know we
got to do that to win the game. That's what
I think he is, and that's what a lot of
good NFL coaches are. Like you listen to my dad
and the heydays of Bill Parcells. He wasn't calling the
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defense of the offense, but like he would say, he'd
walk in the meeting room and go, we can't run
this play. We can't run this play, run this play,
this play. I like this play. Blah blah blah. I'm
out to go check on the defense. And I feel
like Deon Sanders is made for NFL head coach that way.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, but I think he likes being Dion that he can.
He's you're coming to his school because of King Dion
there right right. I think his ego is playcated that
Oh my god, they're coming to play for me, not Colorado,
They're coming to play for me the NFL. You might
(31:27):
be right, you know, Dion doesn't strike me as he's
necessarily x's and o's as much as he's the CEO.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Yeah, CEO's broad picture of the game, right, Like the
gout said, I was trying to explain, You're exactly right, like, hey,
we need to play this guy, We need to put
him in this position a little bit more. I like
when we play these style of defenses. Now, defensive coordinator,
you figure out how to do that. But this is
what I'm talking about. And yes, I would agree with
you he's that way.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
And I do think, of course, because of who he
is the leader. He is, the motivator he is. He
could certainly handle an NFL locker room. Always great to
talk to you. Thanks for joining us. Hey, thanks man,
I appreciate it's been a little while. I missed you.
Tell the guys. I said, hi, all.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Right, I will Chris sim says, hi, guys, Hi Chris,
Hello Chris.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, that's Chris saying hi.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's our one on this Wednesday, down a Danette, And
that means Marvin has to do double duty in the
front row as Paulie is out. But Fritzy's here the
minister of humor and Seaton as well yours truly in
the back room. Guys, well, I don't know if you
can say we have a series, but at least we
have a little more of a series after last night.
(00:26):
Not surprised the Yankees won, but it's one of those
where they keep piling up runs and I go, I
don't know if this is going to translate into tonight.
You know when you all of a sudden have this
outburst and you go, boy, that's going to help them,
that's going to propel them. Maybe they figured something out.
I thought it was kind of interesting. I was keeping
an eye on Aaron Judge. Now he had a good
(00:47):
eye at the plate. He had an RBI single, but
he got on base four times and they got some
help from somebody aside from the Big Three. Anthony Volpi
hitting the Grand Slam there. That's what you need in
the World Series. You need to have those playoff heroes
where you got the guys who are getting paid the
big bucks. But then sometimes the pitcher will relax and
(01:09):
maybe he'll look at somebody differently than he would Aaron
Judge or Freddie Freeman. By the way, Freddie Freeman unbelievable.
I mean, right now he's the runaway leader for MVP,
and rightfully so. It's not even close. But Anthony Volpi
is second on the DraftKings MVP list. After last night
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(01:51):
Smoltz on the call last night. Johnny will join his
next hour to discuss everything that happened, including the fan
involvement with Mookie Bets crazy crazy moment. Now we've seen
interaction before, We've seen fans go on the field. That
one I didn't understand. It's not like you were trying
(02:11):
to take away a home run ball or you were
going to you know, prevent somebody from a you know,
catching a double off the wall. Whatever it was, it
was a foul ball and you're trying to pry it
out of Mookie Bets's glove and then the other guy
is accomplice will grab his hand. And from what I'm told,
they got kicked out last night. So they drove in
(02:33):
from Connecticut and then you get there and then you
get kicked out in the first inning. And what I'm
told is that doesn't mean they can't go tonight, which
shocks me. There's one more game left at Yankee Stadium.
You just say, and you can't come back for Game
five either. Because they were getting a hero's welcome as
(02:55):
they're being escorted out, you had grown men who were
you know, they were hugging them. I'm like, what did
they do? Just act like idiots? And then you're like, hey,
you know that's our territory. We're gonna we're gonna defend
our territory. I didn't know this was a turf war, yes, Marvin.
(03:15):
And what do you think that car rider train ride
was like? Because they spent good money on those seats. First, first,
baseline of the World Series.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, like, what was that? What was that convo? Like afterwards?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I have no idea, but imagine you're getting ready and
you're gonna drive from Connecticut to the Bronx. You're gonna
go to the game. We got great seats. We're right there. Hey,
this ball's coming over. We're got to defend our turf here.
We're not gonna be like Bartman. We're gonna go in
there and pry the ball. What are you getting if
you get the ball out of his glove and then
(03:47):
the other guy's grabbing Mookie's hand his arm, What are
you idiots doing?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, see they're getting active, playing their part. Yeah, yeah,
not on our turf. We're going to defend it.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You cross this line, right y, I'm taking that glove.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
They were trying to defend it too, Yes, no, no
glo right here, that's fair game.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
This is how it sounded last night on Fox. Why
the right buy Torres bets in the corner? Does he
have room fights.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
With a fan and they're gonna say that it's out
and fan interference? And yeah, Bett says that ball in
his glove and this fan literally tries to take his
glove off prize the ball out.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Of there a for effort. Well, he won't be watching
the game much longer.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
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(05:07):
right Chris Simms from Pro Football Talk. He will join
us and talk to him about a few things. The
Texans are without Stefan Diggs. Do they do anything prior
to the trade deadline? You know, if I'm Houston, I
asked the Jets if Davante Adams is available.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I mean, the Jets aren't going anywhere Houston. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Houston says, hey, we're fine, but okay, I don't think
you can ever have too many weapons. But I'd be
curious if you could just say, Hey, you know we're
going to play one another after the game. Could we
just have Davante stay with us? And then accompany us
to Houston. But that'll be the Thursday night game. You
got college football coming up tonight, you have the NBA games,
(05:51):
you got the Lakers and the Caves. This will be
Browny's probably his last game before he goes to the
G League. I understand why Lebron wanted to take him
back home, and he'll get an opportunity to play a
little bit tonight, I'm sure, and then he'll play in
the G League. Then the question is on what occasion
do you bring him up? And I don't know if
(06:12):
I would leave him down there as long as you can,
and if Lebron wants to bring him up for the
Christmas Day game, that's probably what's going to happen, all right, Seaton,
whole question first hour is going to.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Be the Yankee fans attempting to rip off Mookie Bets glove. Yeah,
it was hilarious or humiliating, it was those are the
only options. Yes, well it wasn't hilarious.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It was like in the face that one guy had,
like he was working really hard to get that ball
out of Mookie's glove.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Like I'm gouldn't get this ball out of here, and
I'm going Oh my god. Okay, here's another option. Okay,
the Yankee fans attempting.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
To rip off Mookie Bets the glove. They were Hero
or a zero. That might be the start of a
new segment, by the way, Hero zero or zero. Yeah,
high school hero, real life zero, Hero zero. That's a classic. Yeah,
we might be that might be the start. I can't
debut a new segment without without Paul. No, no, he'd
be very upset.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
At me right now. But Hero or zero might be
a new one, yeah, coming up. They were definitely zeros.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh man, I feel like their heroes.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Why are you apologizing for these Yankee fans?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm not apologizing for them. I just think it's hilarious.
Mookie Betts was not amused.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
John Smoltz is not amused either, But uh no, I
thought it was hilarious. I can tell. Do we have
any other pole questions? Should the Yankees start intentionally walking?
Freddy Freeman, Yes, sir, hell yes, you know who's homering tonight?
(07:55):
Aaron Judge, Yes, yeah, Aaron Judge will homer tonight.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I had the Yankees winning two games, and so they
win tonight and you send it back to La.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You really can't tell though, right now, if the Yankees
just found their stride or if that's all they had
in the tank last night. I know, I really don't
know if it's going to be one of those things where, man,
they put up a lot of runs and then well
it's really you know, they got it was really.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
A sweep, was really gentlemen, sweet So Freddie Freeman Homer's again.
He's the first player in baseball history to homer in
the first four games of a World Series, and he's homered.
If you go back to when he was with the
Braves six consecutive World Series games, that's also a Major
League record. He's got ten RBIs in the first four games,
and that ties him third most ever in World Series
(08:44):
history through four games. You had nineteen sixty where Mickey
Mantle and Bobby Richardson both had more. But that was
one of those weird World Series because I think every
Yankee win was they scored double figures against the Pirates,
and then the Pirates won all of their games, like
my one run, and then you had Bill Mazerowski with
the walk off home run.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
All right, eight seven, seven to three.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
DP show operator Tyler is sitting by and we'll settle
on our poll question once again. We will talk to
John Smoltz. Chris Simms will stop by as well. Anthony
Richardson got benched. Now they said that this isn't the Hey,
I got tired excuse as to why they set him down.
(09:29):
I'm going to say something that is going to sound strange,
but I do believe it, and that is Anthony Richardson's
comp so far his career in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Is Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
If you look at Josh Allen's numbers when he first started,
same amount of games, stats are very similar. I had
some real doubts about Josh playing the position, had a
lot of talent, he just at times didn't feel like
he knew the nuance of playing quarterback. Now it was
going to take him time coming from Wyoming, going in
(10:06):
high expectations. Now he's the leading candidate for MVP. I'm
not comparing them as far as their personality. I'm just
looking at the results of Anthony Richardson and Josh Allen,
and both had problems. Both have had problems. Josh has graduated, obviously,
Anthony Richardson has to decide if he wants to be
(10:27):
a professional quarterback. Sometimes you have all this talent, and
then you get to the league where everybody else has
talent as well. You could get away with a lot
of these things. He was one of those guys at
Florida where you watched and you went, there'd be a
highlight and you go, oh my god, I'm ever seeing
him with like a I don't know, eighty yard run
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and I.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Go, that's a quarterback. And then you wouldn't see anything else.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
There wouldn't be any other highlights, and I kept thinking, Okay,
is this guy any good? You go to the combine
and all of a sudden, people love to fall in
love with somebody who's just running in their shorts.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Man, look at him. Okay, I want to see what
he does on the football field. I want to.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
See can he run a team? Does he make decisions?
All of those things? And he relies on his athleticism
too much and he gets hurt, gets banged up. He makes,
you know, bad decisions. That's why he should be benched.
Not that hey, I'm tired after that run. It's he
was like two for sixteen, and I said, take him
(11:34):
out of the game. I understand the way quarterbacks are
now they're ready to go, or a lot of them
are like c J.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Stroud.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Now, all of a sudden, you look at Jayden Daniels,
Caleb Williams, you know, the quarterbacks. The rookie quarterbacks who
have played this year have played pretty well. Surprisingly. I mean,
Drake May has a terrible team around him, but he
has shown signs that he can be a franchise quarterback,
has shown signs. And then you have Jayden Daniels, who
(12:04):
is an MVP candidate, and then Caleb Williams is you know,
still figuring out, but I expect him to be a
really good quarterback. But you're watching Anthony Richardson and it's
just not there. And that team can win that division
or at least be in the hunt for a playoffs
spot there, but not with him. Now Joe Flacco, once again,
(12:26):
you can't say his name without his age. So thirty
nine year old Joe Flacco is going to get the
call for the Colts in the foreseeable future, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, you don't want Anthony Richardson to turn into JaMarcus
Russell where ten years later everyone talks about that one
time where they were wild by him, but he got
tired and he got out like that's such a bad
look for him. But Michael Parson said, lie.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yes, lie, yes, that's what I said.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Hey, something's wrong with the headset or my chin strap
or contact lens. You don't wear contact lenses?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh I do?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Now, Like whatever it is, you can't say, man, I
got tired. You're twenty three years of age. You're an
incredible athlete. Yeah, I got tired out there. But if
I look at the Colts, you had Andrew Luck's retirement
in twenty nineteen. Then they kind of cycled through some
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recyclable quarterbacks Matt Ryan, Carson, Wentz, Philip Rivers, and then
Jim Irsay decides to fire Frank Reich and then brings
in Jeff Saturday.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Then you have.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Chris Ballard who was hired in twenty seventeen. He took
the swing on Anthony Richardson. Let's see anything else that
they've done. Yeah, I mean, this is what's happened with them.
They do have some talent there, but you can't get
consistent play out of your quarterback. It's just it's not
(13:58):
going to work. And you know, here's Joe Flacco again,
and Joe Flacco knows what he can and can't do.
Maybe that's part of I go back to Josh Allen.
What you can and can't do, or what you should
or shouldn't do. That's what Anthony Richardson has to figure out.
And you got to put in the time because you
have the talent. It's like Kyler Murray, he had so
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he had more talent than anybody when he was in
high school, more talent than anybody was when he was
in college.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
And now you get to the pros.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Now is when you have to put in the time.
And these guys aren't used to doing that. The guy
who studies has to study, grinds, puts in the extra effort.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
That's the guy that has a chance.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
The guy who goes, eh, I just roll out of
bed and I can play quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It doesn't work that way. Fox Sports Radio has the
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John was all and then call for Game four last night. John,
thanks for joining us. Let's let's start with the Mookie
(15:05):
Bets play. You've been around baseball a long time. Have
you ever seen anything that comes close to that?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
No?
Speaker 7 (15:13):
No, that was that was as bad as it gets.
I mean, you know, sometimes you lose your mind when
space and awareness, and I think that gentleman lost his all.
He believed that seat, that sphere was his and he
was going to get that ball no matter what. Luckily
nothing came of it. But you can imagine if your
(15:36):
mookie bets just a sensation of somebody's grabbing not only
your glove, but if that wall's highed, he's suspended in
the air. So I was pretty confident when I made
a statement he's going to be ejected, and he was, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
But I think he's allowed back tonight. I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I don't think he's your ban for the rest of
the World Series or one more game. I think he
can come back to well, hero is welcome tonight.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
He could come back.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
You know, we've seen plays that have affected outcomes, obviously
famous plays Tony Tarasco and being the greatest miscall in
the history of calls. But at least this one is
in foul territory, and at least this one we have replays,
so it would have been easily easily overturned.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
And once again Freddie Freeman Homer's how do you explain this?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
John, It's really something I've been doing this a long time.
You don't see this switch come on very often. This
is not you know, sometimes when an athlete's hurt, we
make you know too much of it. This is not
making too much of it. This is actually an injury
that was severe that the time off allowed tremendous work
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to be done, and his timing and the ability to
hit with power. I can honestly say the first couple
of weeks, nobody expected him to hit a home run
because he couldn't hit off his front foot and to
do what he's doing. It's the reason why Freddie is Freddy.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I Sometimes we see a team that hasn't done anything
and then they have the offensive explosion, and then we
try to decide, okay, does that mean there's more of
that in store tonight? Or maybe that's their one one
chance to stand up and not you know, and to
avoid a sweep. So what side are you leaning towards tonight?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Well, in a world series, in a best of seven,
it's not like football, where the emotion can carry you
through a quarter or win a game, and you could
run through a wall and just ride that emotion. You
know the old adage, your next day starting pitcher is
your momentum. Right, they got Garrett Cole. But I said
this the other night, and I believe it that if
you can get some joke of energy from an unexpected
(17:49):
source or just your star, you start seeing that energy.
Like I hate using the phrase, the team is flat.
The team's flat because they're not hitting. The team's flat
because they're not scoring runs. So you come to the
park with a little bounce in your step. But the
only reason you continue to play is if you do
those little things that they did last night, and they
(18:10):
weren't doing it in three games leading up to it.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Talking to John Smoltz, John will be on the call
tonight as we have Game five at Yankee Stadium. I
mentioned this yesterday. You got to have those guys at
the bottom of the order who do something for you,
and that has been the difference for the Dodgers. The
Yankees got those contributions, and I go back to you know,
when you guys had Mark Lemke.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
There's always a guy.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
You don't expect that guy to be a star, and
the Yankees, you know, they're kind of looking for that
can somebody pitch in here and help us? Do they
have a good enough lineup to be able to kind
of find that guy on a consistent basis going on?
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Well, And that's the key, right, You get a lineup card.
As a pitcher, you circle certain guys and you go,
unfortunately or fortunately, I'm going to go make this guy
beat me. And when this guy beats you, it's a
shock to the system a little bit because you've taken
care of the big boys and then all of a sudden,
the length of the lineup. That's why the Dodgers are
so good. Look, they don't get enough credit because of
(19:11):
everything that surrounds the payroll, the roster, you know, expectation.
But what the Yankees lacked so far in this series
is that depth, that bottom of the lineup. And if
they can get that going, the stress of the top
of the lineup is there.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It's real.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
The pitchers have to deal with that. So I think
the Dodgers have put more resources on bases. And then
last night, finally, I think six walks a hit batsman.
I mean, that's what the Yankees do when they win
baseball games.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And then it was.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Kind of an oh, by the way, but Judge gets
the base hit RBI.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Those are the kind of things I said.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
He needs to get a like a bleeder, something that
just finds, you know, soft landing there for a base
knock there. What are you seeing that he's doing or
not at the play? Well, yesterday he had a lot
of great takes. Most people say, well, big deal. No,
you got to start with a great take. You got
to stop swinging at those pitches. And then the pitcher goes, oh, shoot,
(20:11):
he's not swinging at it. I got to get closer
to the plate or I'm gonna walk him. The fact
that he got on base four times is huge. I mean,
this is a narrative that he knows it's sometimes really
unfair for the great players to have to do great
things all the time.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
But it's a start. And I think he's a click away.
I really do. I said it, he's a click away
from really making a ball disappear into the sky, which
is what this Yankee crowd's been waiting for.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And what did you see with Otani?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He had that one at bat where he kind of
flailed at it, didn't look you on top of things
comfortable there.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Well, I say this all the time. If nobody knew
Otani had a shoulders injury and he was in the lineup,
the Dodgers are better.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So he's limited.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Look, he's this is not something that I don't think
people realize what he's doing. When you pop your shoulder,
you got information, you got small tears, you got an
uncomfortable you don't run normally holding your collar. I mean
that's just telling you the discomfort he's under. So he's
still a threat. He's eliminated though the threat of when
he gets on base, he's not going to steal. So
(21:15):
all these things that go into it, they're still better
with him in there, as banged up as he is.
And yes, he's not completely right because he has to
make sure that he trusts what not getting hurt versus
being in the lineup to.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Help his team win this series go back to LA.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
You know, I've said the pressure turns when you have
to think about not you know, Dorodgers don't want to
bring the Yankees to LA. They still have a huge
decided advantage the series. The statistics talk about it, but
when you can win a game, you change the narrative
A little bit. The narrative is, oh, they got Garrett
Cole on the mountain and then oh, now it may
(21:57):
switch to the Dodgers. You have to be so manally
top to not listen to the noise and the teams
that usually have been there done that, learn how to
do that.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Great to talk to you. Have fun tonight. Thank you again, John,
my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
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Speaker 3 (22:28):
Analyst.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I had a listener who said the following, if you're
the Texans, why not ask the Jets about Garrett Wilson?
Reunite Garrett Wilson with CJ.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Stroud.
Speaker 8 (22:41):
I mean that's not a bad thought. I mean I
understand that are the Jets really going to be willing
to part ways with Garrett Wilson, a guy that is
they of course drafted and what the top ten, top
twelve of the draft and has a lot of years
in front of them, and then what sell him off
for what? Maybe having DeVante Adams for another year. I
(23:02):
think I understand that thought, and sure, call the Jets,
see what the price tag is. But that would be
a player that I would think that the Jets go.
He's in our scope way bigger than just this year
with Aaron Rodgers or even next year if Aaron Rodgers
comes back. I mean, receivers, as we know, can be
really quality football players for seven eight years into their
(23:24):
NFL career, and I think he's got a lot of
years ahead of them. I would be shocked if the
Jets would part ways with him.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
When we see these eventual coaching vacancies Jacksonville, probably the Jets.
Obviously there'll be a few of these openings here. But
it used to be coaches would say I'm going to
be the head coach. It'd had nothing to do necessarily
with the quarterback. Now when you start to go, do
I want this job? Well, I want this job because
(23:50):
I like the quarterback. Let's say the Bears job is open.
You like that quarterback? There are you sold on Jacksonville's
quarterbacking situation? Are you sold? You know the Jets are
going to be a rebuild after this year? Probably that
to me is it's not an attractive job if Aaron
Rodgers is still there.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
So right, yes, yes, you're saying it right, You're exactly right.
I don't think anybody's gonna want to go, oh, wait,
I want to be the head coach, a first time
head coach, and then oh go to the New York
Jets and basically have to bow down to Aaron Rodgers
for a full year and then him say Okay, I'm
out of here. I'm retiring, and then it's like, okay, wait,
now I get to implement what I want to do,
(24:30):
and now we got to find a quarterback and all that.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Now the problem is, and you know.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
This, there's only thirty two of these jobs out there,
and there's more candidates than jobs open, more years than
not to where hey, at some point you just got
to go, Okay, the Jets are offering me, I'm not
going to get one of these other jobs, and I'm
going to take it. But yeah, there's definitely would be
I think hesitation with anybody out there about the Jets situation.
There's a lot to like about that roster, but you'd
(24:56):
want to know where what Rogers is going to do
in the future, and you know what they're playing is
at quarterback for the future Jacksonville. That's an interesting one.
There's pieces there, but to me, it's going to be more.
Do you believe in Trevor Lawrence. He's there for a while,
he's signed up. He's not all the talent in the world.
But does he have the requisite feel? Does he love
(25:18):
the game the way he should?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Should? Is he a Jim Rat?
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Those are the kind of things you hear about Trevor
Lawrence from time to time down in Jacksonville from people
who are in the know, And I think that would
give people some trepidation about taking that job as well.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I made the comparison maybe I'm the only person to
do this, Anthony Richardson and Josh Allen. When Josh Allen
first got to Buffalo, he was not a good quarterback
at all, right, And I looked at the numbers. They're
not far off from what Anthony Richardson has done. And
both high on potential, you know, coming from Wyoming playing
(25:55):
against better quality opponents. Anthony Richardson, we saw glimpses here
and now they're going to bench him and you bring
in Joe Flacco, right, he's only twenty two, Like potential
gets you fired, Chris, And I don't know if Anthony
Richardson understands the magnitude of this, You know, is he
(26:17):
embarrassed by getting taken out of a game?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Has that ever happened? Never again? Ever?
Speaker 8 (26:22):
That's unheard of. That's especially from the quarterback. You know,
think about some of those offensive linemen. They're going, wait
on this drive when you were scrambled and we were
running around, and the pay before when you hand the
ball off, and just watch the guy we were blocking
three hundred pound men and then I was going to
the linebacker and the play before that when you handed
the ball off, we were working and you were just
sitting there watching the play. You ran twice and he
had to come out of the game. I mean, that's
(26:43):
a no no for anybody in football, let alone the
quarterback who's supposed to be the most in shape, mentally
tough person leader on your football team. That's where it's like,
that's I've never seen that ever before. And there's no
excuse for that, there's not. I mean, you obviously have
to run more wind sprints during the week and get
yourself in shape to do that. Lamar Jackson runs seven
(27:04):
miles every game I've never seen him tap out of
a game in my life. I mean Cam Newton throughout
the years, all these guys we know that have been
impressive runners. No, so I think that speaks a little
bit to his immaturity or you know, lack of maturity.
Right now, he is still young, he's still run.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
This is not the end of the road.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
This is not you know, last year, him getting hurt
and only be able to play four or five games
certainly hurt him, and that kick the can down to
this road. So where we're the road to this year,
to where he's still developing. But I hear you with
the Josh Allen comparison, I understand that totally. But with
Josh Allen too, I think the difference is I don't
remember Josh Allen ever going ten for thirty two. I
(27:43):
don't think Josh Allen was thrown for less than fifty
percent that year. And the biggest thing is Josh Allen
would hit the throws he's supposed to hit. Right now,
Anthony Richardson only hits like the bombs, like if it's
a wido and he can throw it one hundred miles
per hour or throw it.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
One hundred yards that's all he can do.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
But if it's a five yard crosser, a ten yard crosser,
he's got to throw a touch pass or a little
flick pass.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
The ball is everywhere, and that.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Is hard to sell to your team if you're Shane
Stichen that you're trying to win and you're in the
middle of a playoff race here and you're going with
the guy that's the second best quarterback in your football team.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And I think that's ultimately why they had to make
the move to flack out.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
But if I look at the first ten games for
Josh Allen, first ten games for Anthony Richardson, Allen went
four and six, Richardson five and five. Completion percentage just
over fifty percent for Richardson, fifty two percent for Josh Allen.
If I look at you know the yards, you know
Josh threw for two hundred more yards over those ten games.
(28:43):
He Josh Allen had ten seven touchdowns, eleven interceptions, Anthony
Richardson seven touchdowns, eight interceptions, passer rating Anthony Richardson a
better passer rating.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
So I know it's about what's there to be had,
that's the biggest thing, right. I don't think that Buffalo
offense was all that great then and right now they're
in there. There's people open in Indianapolis. That's the problem.
Shane Stikeen's definitely one of the best playing design play
designers in football, So I think that's the big thing, right.
(29:16):
I'm not trying to say you're wrong or anything about that.
With Josh Allen, and I think I've said this to
you before. I never had a problem with his accuracy.
It might have been, wait, you can't fit that ball
in between those two guys and think you're gonna get
away with it, right, So there was like that they
had to get the garter rails on a little bit
to go.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Wait, you can't throw that. You can't fit that in there.
Speaker 8 (29:36):
This isn't Wyoming anymore where they need you to make
an incredible play every play if they want to stay
in the football game.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That was his big thing.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Anthony Richardson The problem is is you're seeing wide open
receivers and you're going, wait, the guy couldn't even get
his hand on the football or it wasn't even in
the screen. And I think that's where it's a little
bit different. You know, I'm big on you know this
from when I do my quarterback stuff on what's there
to be had?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Right, and I.
Speaker 8 (30:02):
Think he's leaving a lot of yards on the field
as far as what's there to be had for that
offense in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Could you see.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Dion and Shoudour as a package deal? Ooh, that's interesting.
I hadn't thought about it as a package deal. I
think Deon Sanders has made for the NFL more than
he is college football. That would be my first assessment, right.
Dion doesn't want to recruit and do that stuff. Dion
wants to lead. He wants to get the guys ready.
(30:29):
He wants to walk in the meeting room and go, wait,
we can't do this. That's stupid, stupid in this, Let's
do that and that, and then you guys figure out
how to do all that. But I just I watched
the film and I'm an overseer and I know we
got to do that to win the game. That's what
I think he is, and that's what a lot of
good NFL coaches are. Like you listen to my dad
and the heydays of Bill Parcells. He wasn't calling the
(30:49):
defense of the offense, but like he would say, he'd
walk in the meeting room and go, we can't run
this play. We can't run this play, run this play,
this play. I like this play. Blah blah blah. I'm
out to go check on the defense. And I feel
like Deon Sanders is made for NFL head coach that way.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, but I think he likes being Dion that he can.
He's you're coming to his school because of King Dion
there right right. I think his ego is playcated that
Oh my god, they're coming to play for me, not Colorado,
They're coming to play for me the NFL. You might
(31:27):
be right, you know, Dion doesn't strike me as he's
necessarily x's and o's as much as he's the CEO.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Yeah, CEO's broad picture of the game, right, Like the
gout said, I was trying to explain, You're exactly right, like, hey,
we need to play this guy, We need to put
him in this position a little bit more. I like
when we play these style of defenses. Now, defensive coordinator,
you figure out how to do that. But this is
what I'm talking about. And yes, I would agree with
you he's that way.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
And I do think, of course, because of who he
is the leader. He is, the motivator he is. He
could certainly handle an NFL locker room. Always great to
talk to you. Thanks for joining us. Hey, thanks man,
I appreciate it's been a little while. I missed you.
Tell the guys. I said, hi, all.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Right, I will Chris sim says, hi, guys, Hi Chris,
Hello Chris.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, that's Chris saying hi.
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