December 9, 2025 • 43 mins
NFL insider Sal Paolantonio sees an Eagles team drifting in the wrong direction and sees Jalen Hurts getting right as the only way to salvage the season. Senior NFL reporter Albert Breer weighs in on the Colts working out Philip Rivers and breaks down the possible NFL head coaching vacancies during the offseason. Basketball Hall of Famer Reggie Miller discusses LeBron James embracing a third wheel role with the Lakers, and wonders if the Thunder can break the Warriors' regular season win record.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
National correspondent South Palantonio covering the NFL. Joining us on
the program, southpal give me one word to describe the
Eagles performance last night, regressing why.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well, you know, Jalen Hurts didn't see wide open receivers
once again, and his interceptions I thought were totally avoidable.
Let's just go to the last one in overtime. He
flushes to his right now. Listen, This drive in overtime
was a thing of beauty by the offense and Jalen Hurts.
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It was an example, an illustration of the good, the bad,
and the ugly of this offense this year. So they're
driving down the field on the road, under duress in
overtime to try to win the football game when they
couldn't get it out of their own way. He's got
them on a first and ten. The Chargers have been
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flushing him out of the pocket all game long. He's
flushed to his right. Dallas Goddard, who has been his
security blanket all game. Dan is sitting there eight yards downfield,
wide open, and instead Jalen Hurts tries to thread the
needle to the goal line area to Johann Dotson, ball
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is tipped and picked game over. That play, to me
is indicative from what I see in that drive, and
that play is indicative of what I think the Eagles
could be and what they have become.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
How dangerous are they here trying to regroup with the
final month of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, they're in survival modes. I don't know about regroup.
They're in survival mode. They got four games left. They
start with the Raiders, which is an absolute stone cold
Locke must win football game at home after losing three
in a row, and then the Commanders twice, but the
Bills sandwiched in between on the road in Buffalo. So
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clearly they must win three out of four. But you
know they got to get it right with Jalen Hurts.
So Nick Sirianni, as Tim McManus, my colleague on ESPN
dot com reported earlier in the week, finds himself now
in the offensive meeting rooms for the first time, giving
his input more and more to the offense. Question of
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course being begged, what took so long?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Why are we waiting until after two losses when the
offense could get out of its way against Detroit and
Green Bay and Chicago. So there's that why did you
take so long to give your input? Stick your nose
in there? And then after he does, Jalen Hurts has
his worst game as a pro. Well, throws four interceptions.
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Last time that's happened for an Eagles quarterback was Donovan
McNabb nineteen ninety nine, when Dona McNabb was a rookie.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, he's such a conundrum because, as I've mentioned, if
it's a big game in the bright lights, Jalen Hurts
has played extremely well. It's just we're going to look
at his regular season and its numbers and go why,
But you look at the postseason and you go, is
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that the same guy? Why do we have this dichotomy
of regular season postseason with him?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, I think there's a couple of things for this year.
Let's just focus on this particular year where they are right.
You know, last night they were missing their best offensive lineman,
Lane Johnson, their best defensive lineman, and Jalen Carter. They
turned the ball over five times and they were still
in position to win it in overtime. So that's the
big picture. That's also the little picture, which is they've
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had a lot of moving parts on the offensive line.
But hey, so did the Buffalo Bills when they went
to the Akasher Stadium two weeks ago without their two
starting offensive tackles. They put two tight ends on the
right side seven plays in a row and ran James
Cook flushing him out one on one with the corner,
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and they piled up big yards in the running game.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So you can't adjust.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Next man up is the concept in the NFL if
you do it right. But the Eagles haven't gotten it
right yet. With their offensive line hurt, Lane Dickerson leaves
the game, that's also an issue. But here's the bottom line.
They threw it forty times last night, only ran at
twenty five against the two deep safety zone defense that
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kills the passing game. The Chargers were number two against
the pass. Why are you throwing it forty times? That's
on the coaches, that's on the quarter. That's how Petullo,
Sirianni and Jalen hurts. He has the ability to go
a line of scrimmage and check with me and hand
it to Saquon. Everybody's wondering why at Sekon do wells
so well last night? Well, because the Chargers let you
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run the ball if you want to. Troy Aikman had
a great breakdown late in the game. Saquon goes into
the A gap. If he had just gone to the
outside to the D gap, which was wide open, he
had clear sailing to a linebacker and a safety. So
part of it is on Saquon and this is a
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running team and the other guy who's not running well,
Dan is the quarterback, whether he's choosing not to or
they don't have enough design runs for him. Can this
be fixed? Absolutely, can be fixed in time for this week.
Can it be salvaged for a Super Bowl run? Not sure,
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don't no.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Talking to South Palantonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL,
Philip Rivers may be coming back. I'm wondering what does
that do for his Hall of Fame candidacy. Do they
start the clock like he's eligible for Hall of Fame discussion,
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but if he comes back and starts to play again,
just the clock reset.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That's a good question. I'm on the committee, and I
don't know the answered.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
No question.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That wasn't the question I thought you were going to
ask me. I thought you were going to ask me
how in the world. Can a guide come back to
the league at age forty four after half a decade
of being with his kids and his family. And I
love Philip Rivers, great family and devoted to his children.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
But now he's being.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Enticed to come back by his friends in Indianapolis. And
that's all good. And we've seen what's happened with Aaron Rodgers.
We don't know what kind of shape Philip Rivers and
I'm sure they're checking him out. I hope he comes back.
It'll be a great story. It tells the story not
only of where Indianapolis is, but where the NFL is
on the quarterback position, right, So we'll see what happens
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with Philip Rivers. He's on the bubble. You know, we
voted last year and Eli Manning didn't get in. I
voted for Eli Manning. I'm a big, big supporter of Elton.
You went two Super Bowl MVPs. Short list, got to
get in, didn't get in. Philip Rivers is maybe Dan
a notch below Eli Manning. Drew Brees will get in
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this year, most likely, hope he does. I will vote
for him. And then there's Eli and Philip Rivers, and
let's not forget about Big Ben. So that's the you know,
the pipeline of quarterbacks with Hall of Fame. So Philip
Rivers is in the conversation, but not at the top
of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Ben Jen correct, you would.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Think so for sure. I mean, you know, I was
talking to Merrill Hodge. We used to be together on
the NFL matchups. Merrily used to play in Pittsburgh. You know,
he's got, as I used to say on the show,
take the black and gold underwear off once in a while. So,
but he loves Big Ben, and so do I. And
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the thing is, when you look at Ben, he raised
the level of everybody around him for a lot of reasons.
Strong arm that mobility. Early in his career. I remember
Bill Parcells talking about the fact that Big Ben was
like eight you know, oak Tree on roller skates. You
couldn't bring him down. Great mobility in the pocket, terrific accuracy,
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and he's got the titles and the numbers. So short answer, yes,
that was my long answer.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Sorry. What's Matthew Stafford's resume missing? If anything? In your
opinion for Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Not missing anything. Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
No, doubt, no doubt, first ballot.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Tough. It's always tough, first ballot. You know we're talking
Peyton Manning, Brett Fire, John Elway, I'm are you that guy?
Probably not, but he gets in.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Chris Sims brought up the analogy with Josh Allen that
he is the modern day John Elway. What do you
think of that?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I like that analogy quite a bit close. But no cigar,
super strong arm can put on the cape take over
a football game. Go back and just watch just some
of the highlights we throw in the old twenty two
if you like to, like I did, of just the
Bills offense because I'm doing Bill's at Patriots in Foxborough
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first time. I'm going back to Patriot Place, by the way,
since Tom Brady left O and why wouldn't you? This
is a huge game. But go back and look at
the Bills offense, especially the second half in the driving
snow right and Josh Allen three touchdown pastes runs for
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another one the longest touchdown run of his career in
the drive in snow What a performance by Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Good to catch up with you again. I like when
you're fired up there. Thank you for joining us, Sal Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
You get me fired up, Dan.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Then mission accomplished. Thank you, Sal South pal Antonio.
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the Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter. They call him
Bert locally. I was watching the Patriots pregame show and
all I know is Tom Kern and Michael Hawley kept saying,
let's go out to Burt, and I go, Who's Burt?
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Next thing I know, I got Albert Breer on the field,
So should I call you?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Bert.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You can call me whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I never correct anybody on that. So whatever you're most
comfortable with, I'm good with.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Okay. If Philip Rivers is the answer, I don't want
to know the question, but I do have to ask
that question. If not Philip Rivers, what are the other
options for the Colts as a backup quarterback or starting
slash backup quarterback?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Plan if it's not Riley Leonard, which we'll see, you know,
you know he's got the spraying knee. If it's not
Riley Leonard, Brett Rippon, who does have experience and has
played in the NFL, would probably be the next answer.
And you'd be working out some guys on Tuesday, which is.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Today, to try to to try to figure.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Out, you know, where you can go. This is really
sort of a you know, I got a perfect storm
of quarterback crap, you know, like in dealing with with
Daniel Jones getting hurt and I'm not making light of it,
but like Daniel Jones having the torn achilles after playing
on a fracture of fibula, Riley Leonard tweaks his knee,
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You've got Anthony Richardson who has the orbitable orbital injury.
Like from what I understand, he's still resting that eye.
There's no timetable for his return, and you know, you've
got a team that's clearly reeling, there's lost three games
in a row, that's got a gauntlet down the stretch,
has Seattle in San Francisco the next couple of weeks.
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You know, if you're Chris Ballard and Shane Stuck and
the guy's in charge there, you're doing everything you can
to try to create some level of hope that they can,
you know, dig what was an incredibly promising season out
of a ditch. And so I'm sure we'll get more
into why Philip and all of that, but you know,
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there aren't a ton of options.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
We're past the trade deadline. You know, the guys that
are out there out there.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
For for for a pretty clear reason, you're not available
at the most important position on the field at this
time of year.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
If there are a lot of teams that think he
can help, he.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Hadn't played in five years now. Granted, yeah, I don't
think his arm strength is going to be lesser because
it wasn't great and didn't have mobility. But I mean,
can you see a scenario where Philip Rivers is playing
football the rest of the season.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well, so he had his workout last night and minunderstanding
as he threw up pretty well. But like you said, like,
I think you sort of expect that. I remember having
this conversation with Joe Flacco earlier this year and he
said to me, He's like, I think I'm to be
able to throw at an NFL level until I'm fifty.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
He's like, I don't think my arm strength is going away.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
And I think.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Anybody, like even like a suburban dad like me, like
I can go out and throw the football in the backyard.
I can't run like I used to, but I can
go out and throw the ball to my kids, you know.
So I think that's one of the lot that that
that's one of those things where it's like, yes, he
can still throw the ball. He's been coaching high school football,
so he's been around it, coaching his son down there
in Alabama, and you know, he has been working out
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and training NFL and college quarterbacks over the last few years.
So he's stayed connected, he's stayed working. He's still throwing.
That's not the question. The question is can he still
move around enough to protect himself. Has he been doing
the work to keep himself in the shape to the
shape he needs to be in to do that, you know?
And then I think the big question is how how
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are you.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Going to take a hit?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You know?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That's the thing is, like I don't think anybody can
project you know what it's what's going to happen if
he were out there on Sunday and you know, Byron
Murphy the three technique from Seattle gets through the line
and buries him. Like is he going to be able
to get up from that? You know, I think that's
probably the biggest question. And you know, I think the
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timing of it is a question too.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You mentioned the five year layoff. You remember Drew Henson.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Right yep, back in the day.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
So for those who don't know, if Drew Henson, you know,
had come out of Michigan, you know, in twenty twenty
two and it kept playing football at Michigan, if he
had come out in twenty twenty two, he might have
been a contender to be the first overall pick. Instead,
he takes the money and goes in place for the Yankees.
That doesn't work out. He tried to come back to
football a few years later. Well, you know, I remember
talking to some Cowboys people. I covered the Cowboys on
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the beat a few years after that, and I remember
having just casual conversation with people about Drew Henson and why.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
He didn't make it, because physically it's very talent.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He was a really good quarterback at Michigan, the successor
to Tom Brady there. And you know what the Cowboys
people said to me was, you don't understand when you're
away from it, how quickly the timing goes away, and
how hard it is to replicate that and all the
things that go along with being able to stand in
the pocket with your eyes downfield, with you know, two
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hundred and fifty three hundred pound guys who are elite
athletes coming at you at full speed like there's no
way to replicate that. So if you're out of it
for a few years, it's hard to get it back.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
And their thing was, that's what happened to Drew Henson, Right.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Wouldn't that apply here to I mean, I know Rivers
obviously has a ton more experience, but if you've been
out of it, I would think the timing.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Of it would be an issue.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Too, so there's a ton of reason to ask questions
about it, you know, and I like, I think, you know,
if if nothing else like this at least shows the
Colts locker room that this stiching and ballor are doing
everything they possibly can to create some modicum of hope,
you know, whether or not it can actually work.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I think, you know, I don't know that anybody has the.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Answer to that question, because this feels pretty unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know, why is the trade deadline where it is
during the season.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Well, I mean the main reason is so you don't
see teams dumping players late.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
That's the main thing is.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
You know what what the NFL wants to avoid is
a situation where you have, you know, some three win
team or two win team, and the general managers or
buddies or whatever, and you see competitive balance getting thrown
off because this player or that player is getting moved
to another team at the end of the year. Now
that team that's already non competitive becomes even less competitive.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I think it has more to do with that in that,
like your team is your.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Team, they have done work to move it back.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I mean, you know this DP as well as anybody.
Like the last few years they have, you.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Know, been in those situations where it's like, okay, like
we're going to move it back another week. And I've
actually seen some of the data on this, which is
interesting that the percentage of the season that's done when
they have a trade deadline is lower in football than
it is in baseball or basketball.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
And the case for.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Moving it back even further than it is now is
to kind of get it up to that standard that
you see in other sports.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
But the main reason why is like the NFL wants.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
To avoid a situation where you know, you have teams
end in November beginning of December. Dumping all of these
players can affect attendance at games, can affect the the
competitiveness of certain matchups.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
That's really the reason why.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Talking Albert Breer the Monday Morning Quarterback, senior NFL reporter,
you have this proliferation of long field goals in the NFL,
and we're about aesthetics yep. And I don't know if
the competition committee has ever addressed can you raise the crossbar?
Like is there something that they've gotten too good at this?
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Just like the extra point that would maybe change the
philosophy of all these longer field goals here.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, I think there are there are things you could do.
You could raise a crossbar, you can narrow the uprights.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
You know. I think you got to look at the
reasoning why this is happening too.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Like, I had a really good conversation with Nick Folk
about this, you know, a couple of weeks ago, and
he's obviously been doing it for a long long time.
I believe this is his nineteenth year in the NFL,
And so I asked him, I said, like, what do
you think it is? He said, the caball is definitely
a factor.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Now again, for those who don't.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Know, explain the cable. Explain explain the cable, right.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
So, like, I guess we can relate this to the flightgate.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Like, quarterbacks have always been given the opportunity to prepare
balls right to so they can have each game ball
just as they like it for game day. So the
quarterbacks have always had that opportunity to do that. They
don't They didn't allow kickers to do that until this year.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
So now kickers have the same.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Opportunity to prepare the caballs, which are the balls that
are there for the kickers. The kickers and punters can
prepare balls the same way the quarterbacks do for game day,
So I think most kickers would tell you that's a factor.
I don't know exactly what they're doing, whether I actually
asked him, I said, is there's something everyone's doing to
the ball.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
He's like, I don't know. I just haven't talked to
enough people to know.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
But I'm sure that everybody's done research onto it and
looked into it and is doing something that's helping them.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
So that's number one.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The second thing that folks said to me was more interesting, though,
He said, because it's become so competitive for college scholarships,
then obviously you.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Know spots in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
You know, you what you're seeing is better athletes the
position now. And so you've got a guy who you
know is a really good high school player, who's maybe
a really good high school receiver or a really good
high school corner or a really good high school linebacker,
and maybe he could play Division two or three college football.
But if he learns how to kick, he can kick
at Alabama, or he can kick at Oregon, or he
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can kick.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
At Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And so now you have these guys who are like
really good athletes in their own right who are probably
you know, college football players at a baseline, and now
they're learning how to kick, and so you have these
guys who are more explosive, who have better legs learning
how to do it. You add on too that some
of the personal training they're getting and better athletes are
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making it at that position. He had mentioned actually Tyler
Loop who's the Ravens kicker, who was from the University
of Arizona, which is Folks alma mater. He said he
worked out with him and he was like, I couldn't believe,
Like when I talked to the strength coaches at Arizona
what sort of athlete he was.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
He said he was like a twenty one or twenty
two mile an hour guy.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
On the GPS, which is insane, you know what I mean, Like,
that's not that far off from.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
What like the field players you know, run.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
So I think it's a number of factors, and you know,
I don't know exactly how you address it, but I
do think that that's the one part that you that
you really won't change. You know, you could go back
to the old rules and the CA balls and everything else.
But I mean the fact that they are better athletes
that are more specialized doing it.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I think as a factor as well.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
How many head coaching vacancies do you think we're going
to have?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I mean I think the normal number probably seven or eight.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You know, you failt total with like what happened with
the Giant.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, I mean you have the Giants and the Titans.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Now, you know, I think there are definitely some like
that have come up that maybe we didn't expect two
months ago. Atlanta, Arizona would probably be in that bucket
that are at least going to be, you know, under
some level of evaluation.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
What does Cleveland do you know? And then you have
like your curve ball.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
You know, like that would be like if Pittsburgh and
I don't think this would be a firing, but if Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
And Mike Tomlin have a mutual parting.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
So I think we'll get to that number, to to
seven or eight. And you know the interesting thing about
it is, I think a lot of teams are gonna
have to evaluate this Dan and say, is what's.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Behind door number two worth getting rid of what we
know is already behind door?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Like Penn State, right, I mean, I think that's that's
going to be it for a lot of these teams,
because I would make this argument, right, I think if
you was today December ninth, right, So if you ask
me on December ninth, twenty twenty four, I would have
told you Ben Johnson and Mike Rabel are going to
be head coaches next year.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I don't know where.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I can't tell you exactly where, but those two guys
are going to be head coaches next year. I'd even
maybe have given you Aaron Glenn at that time. I'm like,
I'm pretty sure he's getting one, right, Who.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Is that this year?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't know if there's a hot guy.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And that's it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Like, like you have some interesting names, like Jesse Mentor
has done a great job with the Chargers defense. I
think Mike McDonald because their similar background helps him a lot.
Mike McDonald's had great success in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
You know Chris Shula, who's you know, got the bloodlines,
of course, is in the RAMS program. Like he's another one,
like the hot offensive guy. I mean, who is it now?
I mean, Joe Brady's had like a little bit of
an up and down year in Buffalo. He's interviewed really well,
so I think if the bill's finished strong, maybe he
becomes the guy, you know, and then you've got a
couple of the second chance guys. You know, Mike McCarthy
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I think will be.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
In the mix.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
But I don't know like that you would look at
it right now and say yes, like this guy will
be a head coach next year.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
And you had at least a couple of those guys
last year.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
And I think in most years you have at least
a couple of guys where you can say, yeah, like
that guy's going to be a head coach this year.
And so if you're a team that's like considering a changer,
you're on the fence. Maybe that gets your your guy
a stay of execution. I even argue with Miami right
like where Mike McDaniel has now you know, like resurrected,
you know, like perception. I it was interesting because I
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was having these conversations with some people with the Dolphins,
and you know what one person told me is like
that Steve Ross was hearing the buzz that Mike McDaniel
will be a great second chance head coach. And it
caused Ross to say, well, wait a second, then, why
why would we get rid.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Of him, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
If he's going to be such a good see, if
it's gonna be such a good hire for somebody the
second time around, why aren't we trying harder to see
if we can make the first time around work. So,
if you're them now and you're the Dolphins, you're looking
at it and you're saying, Okay, we fired the general manager.
Now Mike McDaniel has this team at six and seven
and going into Pittsburgh on Monday with a chance to
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get to five hundred. We're not eliminated from the playoffs.
We haven't lost since we fired the GM on Halloween.
I wouldn't you think twice about that? So I think
that's part of the equation for.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
A lot of these teams. Thanks again, Bert, good to
have you on.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You got it. You can call me whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
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Speaker 2 (25:52):
Reggie Aloysius Miller Junior, the third Hall of Famer NBC
Sports NBA Lead Game analyst, we're twenty five games in.
This is when we start to go okay. Now it
feels like it's a little bit more than just a trend.
It becomes a real story. So if that's the case,
what would be the number one story? Well, maybe it's
(26:13):
OKAC is so much better than everybody else? Would that
be the number one story for you?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
I think yes, because now everyone it's going to be
on the tip of people's tongue. Can they eclipse that
Golden State record of winning seventy three seventy four games
and at the end of it winning the championship. People
need to remember the Warriors had that best record, but
(26:42):
they lost in the finals. So I think people still
view the Bulls because of that seventy two and ten
record ended up winning the championship. I think everyone's thinking,
when is OKC gonna lose again? That would probably be
the number one story, and to me the number two story.
(27:03):
We didn't think Luca and the Lakers would be this game.
No one thought Lebron would be the third Will on
this team, which he is, and that's a heck of
a third will to have. Austin Reeves is playing like
an All Star in a contract year. I didn't have
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the Lakers being this good. The question going forward can
they sustain it in health will be a big issue
in my opinion for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Let's go back to when Luca was in Dallas and
I know that we corresponded and you had said Luca
was out of shape. I don't know the exact language,
but then I know after the game you started to
wonder did you take a step too far? You know,
did you were you overly critical? And I wonder, looking
back on that, what kind of role do you think
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that played it all with Luca the Mavericks and maybe
where he is right now with the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I think the comments Kevin and I made, not necessarily
about his weight, but being in shape to play at
an NBA level. And if you listen to Luca's comments
the day after, he echoed what we said, like, yeah,
I'm not in the best of shape. I could be
in better shape. So he kind of piggyback what we said,
(28:24):
and he knew. I mean, because whenever I say things,
it comes from a place of truth and love. I'm
not going to sugarcoat anything, and I would always want
someone to tell me the truth as well, when I
was a player, I respect that more so I think
he respected kind of what we were saying. And you
fast forward to now. JJ Rennick basically said the same
(28:45):
thing in their postseason meetings, you got to get in
better shape. Well what does he do. He goes back
to Slovenia. He gets in the best shape, plays unbelievable,
the leading scorer in euro Basket. Carries that over into
this year and he's in the league and score. But
more importantly, it just looks better for him. He's moving better,
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there's more fluidity to his game. Not to say that
he couldn't have done that playing the way he played
in Dallas, but I think long, big and long pitcher
for Luca and the Lakers. If he stays in this shape,
I just think the numbers are going to go through
the roof because there's longevity, They're staying power when he
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plays at this weight and he looks this good Theodore.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And there's a lot of revisionist history too with Austin
Reeves because I didn't see this, No, I don't know
who did, but I remember talking to two college basketball
analysts and I said, do you remember Austin Reeves with
this potential, and they're like, well, you know, you could
see if he was gonna go. Really to me, no
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one thought that.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Look, I always thought this coming. And again I always
tell people this. You're a product of your environment. He
went undrafted and he wanted to sign with the Lakers.
He saw a fit in a place where he thought
he could build a Niche he took a gamble on himself,
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Dan and knocked on wood help provide it. I think
it's going to pay off because the Lakers or someone
is going to have to pay him because he is
a legitimate number one on a bad team. If he
goes somewhere else so he could be a number one
on a bad team, or if he stays with the Lakers,
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be an unbelievable Robin to Batman because he has certainly
taken that role from Lebron, and I think they respect that.
So right now he's in the cat first seat and
he controls his own destiny. As long as he continues
to play like this and understand and know his role,
which he plays perfectly.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
She gonna get fifty million dollars a year.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
I mean that's what it looks like. I mean, damn,
I'm not gonna. You can't fault that he has put
in the work. Think about how he's come along when
he was first thrust into it with just Lebron, and
Lebron was giving him. I remember a clip when Lebron
was explaining something to him and he looked like a
(31:28):
deer in headlights when Lebron was explaining a rotation on
the floor and he was like looking like, like, what
do I do? I rotate? And you fast forward to
now he is one of the biggest vote of voices
on this Lakers team. So fifty million is coming his way,
either from the Lakers or from someone else. The matter vague.
(31:50):
Will it be for five years or four years? He's
getting it somewhere.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, And I don't be grudging making the money. If
you go from undrafted to your kind of there and
then you would like little bits and pieces where you go.
All right.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I did.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Can't get a shot, all right, he did, can't get
to the hole, all right? He's a great And then
all of a sudden Lebron goes out, and then all
of a sudden, Austin Reeves or Luca's out, and then
Austin Reeves is like, uh, do I need to get
forty like that, doesn't you know that's that's hard to compute.
Where you go. I can go out and get forty,
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you know a couple of times here, or I can
be a twenty five point scorer. I guess it was
just the surprising element of And somebody told me who
works with the Lakers. We saw him in practice, and
you know, playing in practice, sometimes you'll see somebody and
you'll go, look, man.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Great practice player.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
But yeah, exactly, yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
It translates the games. And this is why I tell
kids in high school and college players alike, rankings really
don't mean anything. They don't. It's what's in your heart
and it's how you developed. I was a late bloomer
and I came on late. I was late to be
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recruited by UCLA. I was slow to develop At UCLA.
They brought me along slow, which was great because they
allowed me to grow into my game. And I think
Austin Rivers is like that as well. So don't worry
about rankings, don't worry about what other people say. As
long as you put the grind in and the hard work,
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the fruits of your labor will come out. Finding the
right fit would he be the successful if he was
in Minnesota, if he was in Charlotte, we don't know.
Sometimes it's the right fit. And let's give Rob Polinka
and that staff a lot of credit for taking a gamble.
Sometimes you got to take a gamble, a risky gamble,
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and it pays off and it works out.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I got a Red G. Miller the Hall of Famer.
When do the Bucks decide what they're gonna do with Yannis?
Speaker 6 (34:00):
To me, it's got to be sooner than later. And
if you're Doc Rivers, and I know he's said all
the right things that Giannie has not come out and
said he wants to be traded. But you just have
to figure, are we wasting this young man's prime years here?
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They've tried to do everything to surround him with talent.
Now he's got to stay on the court.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Now.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
I know he's had some nagging, nagging injuries this last
this year as well as towards the end of last year.
To me, he doesn't want to be the a hole.
He doesn't want to come out and be demonstrative and
say I want to be traded. But to me, he
he has earned the right. He brought them a Championship.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
But he's got to be careful that he doesn't say
I want to go to the Knicks. He's got to
be I'm open to being.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Everything has to be behind closed door with him, and
I'm sure he's he's voiced that, but he just can't
public publicly come out and say I want to go
to the Knicks, which everyone that's our job. But everyone's
formulating the numbers. Will it be Miami, will it be
New York? Could it be La? Who do you is
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Reeves in this deal? I mean, there's there's so many
ways that people are crunching the numbers. It just from
a basketball standpoint, then you know this him in New
York just makes sense, doesn't it? Himpaired?
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
But who does? You got to look at both sides
of the deal. People only look at one side and
to go, man, be honest with the Knicks. Okay, who
are the Bucks going to get? And you go, you
know what, we did the best we could. We have
Karl Anthony Towns, and we have Michel Bridges, and we
have what is that enough?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
And probably a protected pick. I mean, if you're if
you're of Milwaukee and I can get Karl Anthony Towns,
who's an All Star, one of the premier shooting big
men our game has ever seen. And Michael Bridges, who
hasn't missed the game since his seventh grade AAU team,
so you know he's reliable and will play. You're getting
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two guys that have been on I know you'll never
get fair value. You're never gonna get equal trade value
for yon Man.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
But you don't want draft picks you would you wanted.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I need a couple of draft picks as well. I
need those two guys, and I need two first round picks.
Let's shake hands and call it today.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
You mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, and I
have a friend who works in the NBA, and he goes,
what's Reggie smoking? When you said con Canipple and his
three point shooting? And I said, I think Reggie firmly
believes Conkniple he's gonna set the all time rookie record
for three pointers made. To get Yeah, the given, the.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Question will be here's the thing when people say, you
know what am I smoking? The question will be for Kahn,
will he be a go to guy? Like how Steph
was a go to guy from years five through now
because his first three or four years he was in
he was injury riddled. So so Con will have those
(37:23):
numbers on Steph the first three years. The question going
forward for kN will be in year four and five,
where's his development and where is he in the pecking
order if he is even if he's still in Charlotte,
who even knows if he'll be there? That's will he
have the longevity? Because Steph has always had the longevity
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after year four and he was the go to guy.
Will Kan be a go to guy? And will he
always get these get the opportunities that Steph has gotten.
Who knows, But if you're going to go by the
first two or three years, Conn will have the numbers
on step.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Do you knew who has the rookie record for most
three pointers? Mate? Paulie said, I would be shocked. Now
is this a recent guy, Pauline?
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Yeah, he's still pretty young. He plays in a town
that doesn't get a ton of coverage on the NBA calendar.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Trey Young, Keegan Murray.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
Two hundred and sixty threes with your Kings, Dan, Wow,
your guy Con right?
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Now?
Speaker 8 (38:32):
What is that number, by the way, two thirty six
two six two so Keegan Murray Conknipple right now is
on pace for two hundred and sixty three threes.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
He blow away the record. Yeah, dang, But he plays
in Charlotte.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
That's the problem. And will he stay in Charlotte his
whole career or will someone come a calling? Right? So,
does he stay healthy? And will he ever be a
go to guy like Stephan Curry? He's not even a
go to guy on Charlotte right now. The reason why
he's getting all these threes is LaMelo's been in and
(39:08):
out of the lineups. Brandon Miller has been in and
out of the lineups, so the opportunity is there. I
would I'm curious to see once everyone is healthy, does
he still get these looks, which I hope he does
because he's a fly out shooter. But again, view him
on his first three years versus steph first three years.
(39:29):
He'll have the numbers. The question will be going forward,
will be year.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Four on.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Can the Hornage be a playoff team if LaMelo ball
is your best player? No, No, nothing to happen there.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
I love Jamelo, I love LaMelo, but LaMelo has to
stay healthy, and to me, he just has to.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
He's just a curiosity. He's a curios He's just a
he's a guy out there having fun. But I don't
think I.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Would love to see him on a really, really good
team where every possession matters.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
Paul Paulie, what what do you have Reggie Miller's total
threes as a rookie. By the way, Reggie came off
the bench as a rookie, so he played eighty two games,
started one. He was sixty one for one seventy two
as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Sixty one threes.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And I broke Larry birds record. Yes, record, that was
breaking Larry Birds record. I think Larry Bird had like
fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Right, Polly, that's right.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
I broke it with sixty one.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
And what is coln at right now currently?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Is that eighty one?
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Come on, man, and we're not even We're only a
quarter up to the season.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I know he's gonna and.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Great the homework. Do the homework.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
What did Reggie average assist was?
Speaker 8 (40:59):
I think he had three assists that season.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Now you have one hundred and thirty two assistans. No,
you could pass if you wanted to.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
No, right, thank you, Theodore, if I wanted if you
just did not leader. Put the ball in the basket
five minutes left in the game. Close the game. That's
what it said, up my bio.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh dude, okay, my.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Job description when they hired me.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I love that Reggie would pass it, but he wanted
it back after he passed, because I pass it, I'll
pass it back.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Bring.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
What's his career high assist in a game in a
game in a season?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
One footble double? That was it?
Speaker 8 (41:49):
Okay, I got eleven assists in a game for Reggie.
His best season, he averaged four assists a game year five.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Wow, Well, why are you looking at me like that, Theodore?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
The game has changed to point. We had a point
guard that distributed the ball. We had shooting guards that
shot the ball. We had small forwards who were like
wing players who defended.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
How many how many assisted Bird? How many assisted Bird average?
When he was playing because he had a point guard,
he ended up getting you know, seven eight, that's different.
Speaker 8 (42:29):
In different Larry Bird's best season he everaged seven and
a half a siss a game.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Okay, I'm just saying he was a shooter and a rebounder,
but also passing. You were coming up with excuses there.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
No, no, no excuse. It's just knowing my role. That's
the key for eighteen years plus is knowing your role.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Were you ever first or second or thirteen old defense?
Speaker 9 (42:52):
No, no, Now what they should have had a category
for was I could have been first, second, thirteen all team.
Speaker 6 (43:05):
I was a great team help. You were a helper,
a great help defender. So when someone got meat slide
over and then let Dell and Rick and Jay.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Wait a minute, but you you were guarding shooting guards.
You're the one that needed team help.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
I forced them into the hell. Oh that's not that's
health defense. You forced them to your fee.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Help help help somebody pick up kelbe somebody get Kobe
help help. Uh, thank you Rech, good to talk to you.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Appreciate your Theodore. Thank you Danny. That's Paulie. A great
job out no stats
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Frinch, what you do you get an assist there, Paulie,
that's what you get.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
National correspondent South Palantonio covering the NFL. Joining us on
the program, southpal give me one word to describe the
Eagles performance last night, regressing why.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well, you know, Jalen Hurts didn't see wide open receivers
once again, and his interceptions I thought were totally avoidable.
Let's just go to the last one in overtime. He
flushes to his right now. Listen, This drive in overtime
was a thing of beauty by the offense and Jalen Hurts.
(00:41):
It was an example, an illustration of the good, the bad,
and the ugly of this offense this year. So they're
driving down the field on the road, under duress in
overtime to try to win the football game when they
couldn't get it out of their own way. He's got
them on a first and ten. The Chargers have been
(01:04):
flushing him out of the pocket all game long. He's
flushed to his right. Dallas Goddard, who has been his
security blanket all game. Dan is sitting there eight yards downfield,
wide open, and instead Jalen Hurts tries to thread the
needle to the goal line area to Johann Dotson, ball
(01:26):
is tipped and picked game over. That play, to me
is indicative from what I see in that drive, and
that play is indicative of what I think the Eagles
could be and what they have become.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
How dangerous are they here trying to regroup with the
final month of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, they're in survival modes. I don't know about regroup.
They're in survival mode. They got four games left. They
start with the Raiders, which is an absolute stone cold
Locke must win football game at home after losing three
in a row, and then the Commanders twice, but the
Bills sandwiched in between on the road in Buffalo. So
(02:12):
clearly they must win three out of four. But you
know they got to get it right with Jalen Hurts.
So Nick Sirianni, as Tim McManus, my colleague on ESPN
dot com reported earlier in the week, finds himself now
in the offensive meeting rooms for the first time, giving
his input more and more to the offense. Question of
(02:34):
course being begged, what took so long?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Why are we waiting until after two losses when the
offense could get out of its way against Detroit and
Green Bay and Chicago. So there's that why did you
take so long to give your input? Stick your nose
in there? And then after he does, Jalen Hurts has
his worst game as a pro. Well, throws four interceptions.
(03:03):
Last time that's happened for an Eagles quarterback was Donovan
McNabb nineteen ninety nine, when Dona McNabb was a rookie.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, he's such a conundrum because, as I've mentioned, if
it's a big game in the bright lights, Jalen Hurts
has played extremely well. It's just we're going to look
at his regular season and its numbers and go why,
But you look at the postseason and you go, is
(03:32):
that the same guy? Why do we have this dichotomy
of regular season postseason with him?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, I think there's a couple of things for this year.
Let's just focus on this particular year where they are right.
You know, last night they were missing their best offensive lineman,
Lane Johnson, their best defensive lineman, and Jalen Carter. They
turned the ball over five times and they were still
in position to win it in overtime. So that's the
big picture. That's also the little picture, which is they've
(04:02):
had a lot of moving parts on the offensive line.
But hey, so did the Buffalo Bills when they went
to the Akasher Stadium two weeks ago without their two
starting offensive tackles. They put two tight ends on the
right side seven plays in a row and ran James
Cook flushing him out one on one with the corner,
(04:22):
and they piled up big yards in the running game.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So you can't adjust.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Next man up is the concept in the NFL if
you do it right. But the Eagles haven't gotten it
right yet. With their offensive line hurt, Lane Dickerson leaves
the game, that's also an issue. But here's the bottom line.
They threw it forty times last night, only ran at
twenty five against the two deep safety zone defense that
(04:50):
kills the passing game. The Chargers were number two against
the pass. Why are you throwing it forty times? That's
on the coaches, that's on the quarter. That's how Petullo,
Sirianni and Jalen hurts. He has the ability to go
a line of scrimmage and check with me and hand
it to Saquon. Everybody's wondering why at Sekon do wells
so well last night? Well, because the Chargers let you
(05:13):
run the ball if you want to. Troy Aikman had
a great breakdown late in the game. Saquon goes into
the A gap. If he had just gone to the
outside to the D gap, which was wide open, he
had clear sailing to a linebacker and a safety. So
part of it is on Saquon and this is a
(05:33):
running team and the other guy who's not running well,
Dan is the quarterback, whether he's choosing not to or
they don't have enough design runs for him. Can this
be fixed? Absolutely, can be fixed in time for this week.
Can it be salvaged for a Super Bowl run? Not sure,
(05:55):
don't no.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Talking to South Palantonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL,
Philip Rivers may be coming back. I'm wondering what does
that do for his Hall of Fame candidacy. Do they
start the clock like he's eligible for Hall of Fame discussion,
(06:16):
but if he comes back and starts to play again,
just the clock reset.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That's a good question. I'm on the committee, and I
don't know the answered.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
No question.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
That wasn't the question I thought you were going to
ask me. I thought you were going to ask me
how in the world. Can a guide come back to
the league at age forty four after half a decade
of being with his kids and his family. And I
love Philip Rivers, great family and devoted to his children.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
But now he's being.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Enticed to come back by his friends in Indianapolis. And
that's all good. And we've seen what's happened with Aaron Rodgers.
We don't know what kind of shape Philip Rivers and
I'm sure they're checking him out. I hope he comes back.
It'll be a great story. It tells the story not
only of where Indianapolis is, but where the NFL is
on the quarterback position, right, So we'll see what happens
(07:07):
with Philip Rivers. He's on the bubble. You know, we
voted last year and Eli Manning didn't get in. I
voted for Eli Manning. I'm a big, big supporter of Elton.
You went two Super Bowl MVPs. Short list, got to
get in, didn't get in. Philip Rivers is maybe Dan
a notch below Eli Manning. Drew Brees will get in
(07:30):
this year, most likely, hope he does. I will vote
for him. And then there's Eli and Philip Rivers, and
let's not forget about Big Ben. So that's the you know,
the pipeline of quarterbacks with Hall of Fame. So Philip
Rivers is in the conversation, but not at the top
of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Ben Jen correct, you would.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Think so for sure. I mean, you know, I was
talking to Merrill Hodge. We used to be together on
the NFL matchups. Merrily used to play in Pittsburgh. You know,
he's got, as I used to say on the show,
take the black and gold underwear off once in a while. So,
but he loves Big Ben, and so do I. And
(08:15):
the thing is, when you look at Ben, he raised
the level of everybody around him for a lot of reasons.
Strong arm that mobility. Early in his career. I remember
Bill Parcells talking about the fact that Big Ben was
like eight you know, oak Tree on roller skates. You
couldn't bring him down. Great mobility in the pocket, terrific accuracy,
(08:40):
and he's got the titles and the numbers. So short answer, yes,
that was my long answer.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Sorry. What's Matthew Stafford's resume missing? If anything? In your
opinion for Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Not missing anything. Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
No, doubt, no doubt, first ballot.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Tough. It's always tough, first ballot. You know we're talking
Peyton Manning, Brett Fire, John Elway, I'm are you that guy?
Probably not, but he gets in.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Chris Sims brought up the analogy with Josh Allen that
he is the modern day John Elway. What do you
think of that?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I like that analogy quite a bit close. But no cigar,
super strong arm can put on the cape take over
a football game. Go back and just watch just some
of the highlights we throw in the old twenty two
if you like to, like I did, of just the
Bills offense because I'm doing Bill's at Patriots in Foxborough
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first time. I'm going back to Patriot Place, by the way,
since Tom Brady left O and why wouldn't you? This
is a huge game. But go back and look at
the Bills offense, especially the second half in the driving
snow right and Josh Allen three touchdown pastes runs for
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another one the longest touchdown run of his career in
the drive in snow What a performance by Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Good to catch up with you again. I like when
you're fired up there. Thank you for joining us, Sal Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
You get me fired up, Dan.
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the Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter. They call him
Bert locally. I was watching the Patriots pregame show and
all I know is Tom Kern and Michael Hawley kept saying,
let's go out to Burt, and I go, Who's Burt?
(11:27):
Next thing I know, I got Albert Breer on the field,
So should I call you?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Bert.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You can call me whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I never correct anybody on that. So whatever you're most
comfortable with, I'm good with.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Okay. If Philip Rivers is the answer, I don't want
to know the question, but I do have to ask
that question. If not Philip Rivers, what are the other
options for the Colts as a backup quarterback or starting
slash backup quarterback?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Plan if it's not Riley Leonard, which we'll see, you know,
you know he's got the spraying knee. If it's not
Riley Leonard, Brett Rippon, who does have experience and has
played in the NFL, would probably be the next answer.
And you'd be working out some guys on Tuesday, which is.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Today, to try to to try to figure.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Out, you know, where you can go. This is really
sort of a you know, I got a perfect storm
of quarterback crap, you know, like in dealing with with
Daniel Jones getting hurt and I'm not making light of it,
but like Daniel Jones having the torn achilles after playing
on a fracture of fibula, Riley Leonard tweaks his knee,
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You've got Anthony Richardson who has the orbitable orbital injury.
Like from what I understand, he's still resting that eye.
There's no timetable for his return, and you know, you've
got a team that's clearly reeling, there's lost three games
in a row, that's got a gauntlet down the stretch,
has Seattle in San Francisco the next couple of weeks.
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You know, if you're Chris Ballard and Shane Stuck and
the guy's in charge there, you're doing everything you can
to try to create some level of hope that they can,
you know, dig what was an incredibly promising season out
of a ditch. And so I'm sure we'll get more
into why Philip and all of that, but you know,
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there aren't a ton of options.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
We're past the trade deadline. You know, the guys that
are out there out there.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
For for for a pretty clear reason, you're not available
at the most important position on the field at this
time of year.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
If there are a lot of teams that think he
can help, he.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Hadn't played in five years now. Granted, yeah, I don't
think his arm strength is going to be lesser because
it wasn't great and didn't have mobility. But I mean,
can you see a scenario where Philip Rivers is playing
football the rest of the season.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Well, so he had his workout last night and minunderstanding
as he threw up pretty well. But like you said, like,
I think you sort of expect that. I remember having
this conversation with Joe Flacco earlier this year and he
said to me, He's like, I think I'm to be
able to throw at an NFL level until I'm fifty.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
He's like, I don't think my arm strength is going away.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
And I think.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Anybody, like even like a suburban dad like me, like
I can go out and throw the football in the backyard.
I can't run like I used to, but I can
go out and throw the ball to my kids, you know.
So I think that's one of the lot that that
that's one of those things where it's like, yes, he
can still throw the ball. He's been coaching high school football,
so he's been around it, coaching his son down there
in Alabama, and you know, he has been working out
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and training NFL and college quarterbacks over the last few years.
So he's stayed connected, he's stayed working. He's still throwing.
That's not the question. The question is can he still
move around enough to protect himself. Has he been doing
the work to keep himself in the shape to the
shape he needs to be in to do that, you know?
And then I think the big question is how how
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are you.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Going to take a hit?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You know?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That's the thing is, like I don't think anybody can
project you know what it's what's going to happen if
he were out there on Sunday and you know, Byron
Murphy the three technique from Seattle gets through the line
and buries him. Like is he going to be able
to get up from that? You know, I think that's
probably the biggest question. And you know, I think the
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timing of it is a question too.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You mentioned the five year layoff. You remember Drew Henson.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Right yep, back in the day.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
So for those who don't know, if Drew Henson, you know,
had come out of Michigan, you know, in twenty twenty
two and it kept playing football at Michigan, if he
had come out in twenty twenty two, he might have
been a contender to be the first overall pick. Instead,
he takes the money and goes in place for the Yankees.
That doesn't work out. He tried to come back to
football a few years later. Well, you know, I remember
talking to some Cowboys people. I covered the Cowboys on
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the beat a few years after that, and I remember
having just casual conversation with people about Drew Henson and why.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
He didn't make it, because physically it's very talent.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He was a really good quarterback at Michigan, the successor
to Tom Brady there. And you know what the Cowboys
people said to me was, you don't understand when you're
away from it, how quickly the timing goes away, and
how hard it is to replicate that and all the
things that go along with being able to stand in
the pocket with your eyes downfield, with you know, two
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hundred and fifty three hundred pound guys who are elite
athletes coming at you at full speed like there's no
way to replicate that. So if you're out of it
for a few years, it's hard to get it back.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
And their thing was, that's what happened to Drew Henson, Right.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Wouldn't that apply here to I mean, I know Rivers
obviously has a ton more experience, but if you've been
out of it, I would think the timing.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Of it would be an issue.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Too, so there's a ton of reason to ask questions
about it, you know, and I like, I think, you know,
if if nothing else like this at least shows the
Colts locker room that this stiching and ballor are doing
everything they possibly can to create some modicum of hope,
you know, whether or not it can actually work.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
I think, you know, I don't know that anybody has the.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Answer to that question, because this feels pretty unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know, why is the trade deadline where it is
during the season.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Well, I mean the main reason is so you don't
see teams dumping players late.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
That's the main thing is.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
You know what what the NFL wants to avoid is
a situation where you have, you know, some three win
team or two win team, and the general managers or
buddies or whatever, and you see competitive balance getting thrown
off because this player or that player is getting moved
to another team at the end of the year. Now
that team that's already non competitive becomes even less competitive.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I think it has more to do with that in that,
like your team is your.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Team, they have done work to move it back.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I mean, you know this DP as well as anybody.
Like the last few years they have, you.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Know, been in those situations where it's like, okay, like
we're going to move it back another week. And I've
actually seen some of the data on this, which is
interesting that the percentage of the season that's done when
they have a trade deadline is lower in football than
it is in baseball or basketball.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
And the case for.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Moving it back even further than it is now is
to kind of get it up to that standard that
you see in other sports.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
But the main reason why is like the NFL wants.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
To avoid a situation where you know, you have teams
end in November beginning of December. Dumping all of these
players can affect attendance at games, can affect the the
competitiveness of certain matchups.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
That's really the reason why.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Talking Albert Breer the Monday Morning Quarterback, senior NFL reporter,
you have this proliferation of long field goals in the NFL,
and we're about aesthetics yep. And I don't know if
the competition committee has ever addressed can you raise the crossbar?
Like is there something that they've gotten too good at this?
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Just like the extra point that would maybe change the
philosophy of all these longer field goals here.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, I think there are there are things you could do.
You could raise a crossbar, you can narrow the uprights.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
You know. I think you got to look at the
reasoning why this is happening too.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Like, I had a really good conversation with Nick Folk
about this, you know, a couple of weeks ago, and
he's obviously been doing it for a long long time.
I believe this is his nineteenth year in the NFL,
And so I asked him, I said, like, what do
you think it is? He said, the caball is definitely
a factor.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Now again, for those who don't.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Know, explain the cable. Explain explain the cable, right.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
So, like, I guess we can relate this to the flightgate.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Like, quarterbacks have always been given the opportunity to prepare
balls right to so they can have each game ball
just as they like it for game day. So the
quarterbacks have always had that opportunity to do that. They
don't They didn't allow kickers to do that until this year.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
So now kickers have the same.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Opportunity to prepare the caballs, which are the balls that
are there for the kickers. The kickers and punters can
prepare balls the same way the quarterbacks do for game day,
So I think most kickers would tell you that's a factor.
I don't know exactly what they're doing, whether I actually
asked him, I said, is there's something everyone's doing to
the ball.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
He's like, I don't know. I just haven't talked to
enough people to know.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
But I'm sure that everybody's done research onto it and
looked into it and is doing something that's helping them.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
So that's number one.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The second thing that folks said to me was more interesting, though,
He said, because it's become so competitive for college scholarships,
then obviously you.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Know spots in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
You know, you what you're seeing is better athletes the
position now. And so you've got a guy who you
know is a really good high school player, who's maybe
a really good high school receiver or a really good
high school corner or a really good high school linebacker,
and maybe he could play Division two or three college football.
But if he learns how to kick, he can kick
at Alabama, or he can kick at Oregon, or he
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can kick.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
At Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And so now you have these guys who are like
really good athletes in their own right who are probably
you know, college football players at a baseline, and now
they're learning how to kick, and so you have these
guys who are more explosive, who have better legs learning
how to do it. You add on too that some
of the personal training they're getting and better athletes are
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making it at that position. He had mentioned actually Tyler
Loop who's the Ravens kicker, who was from the University
of Arizona, which is Folks alma mater. He said he
worked out with him and he was like, I couldn't believe,
Like when I talked to the strength coaches at Arizona
what sort of athlete he was.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
He said he was like a twenty one or twenty
two mile an hour guy.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
On the GPS, which is insane, you know what I mean, Like,
that's not that far off from.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
What like the field players you know, run.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
So I think it's a number of factors, and you know,
I don't know exactly how you address it, but I
do think that that's the one part that you that
you really won't change. You know, you could go back
to the old rules and the CA balls and everything else.
But I mean the fact that they are better athletes
that are more specialized doing it.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I think as a factor as well.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
How many head coaching vacancies do you think we're going
to have?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I mean I think the normal number probably seven or eight.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
You know, you failt total with like what happened with
the Giant.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, I mean you have the Giants and the Titans.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Now, you know, I think there are definitely some like
that have come up that maybe we didn't expect two
months ago. Atlanta, Arizona would probably be in that bucket
that are at least going to be, you know, under
some level of evaluation.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
What does Cleveland do you know? And then you have
like your curve ball.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
You know, like that would be like if Pittsburgh and
I don't think this would be a firing, but if Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
And Mike Tomlin have a mutual parting.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
So I think we'll get to that number, to to
seven or eight. And you know the interesting thing about
it is, I think a lot of teams are gonna
have to evaluate this Dan and say, is what's.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Behind door number two worth getting rid of what we
know is already behind door?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Like Penn State, right, I mean, I think that's that's
going to be it for a lot of these teams,
because I would make this argument, right, I think if
you was today December ninth, right, So if you ask
me on December ninth, twenty twenty four, I would have
told you Ben Johnson and Mike Rabel are going to
be head coaches next year.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I don't know where.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I can't tell you exactly where, but those two guys
are going to be head coaches next year. I'd even
maybe have given you Aaron Glenn at that time. I'm like,
I'm pretty sure he's getting one, right, Who.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Is that this year?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't know if there's a hot guy.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And that's it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Like, like you have some interesting names, like Jesse Mentor
has done a great job with the Chargers defense. I
think Mike McDonald because their similar background helps him a lot.
Mike McDonald's had great success in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
You know Chris Shula, who's you know, got the bloodlines,
of course, is in the RAMS program. Like he's another one,
like the hot offensive guy. I mean, who is it now?
I mean, Joe Brady's had like a little bit of
an up and down year in Buffalo. He's interviewed really well,
so I think if the bill's finished strong, maybe he
becomes the guy, you know, and then you've got a
couple of the second chance guys. You know, Mike McCarthy
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I think will be.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
In the mix.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
But I don't know like that you would look at
it right now and say yes, like this guy will
be a head coach next year.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
And you had at least a couple of those guys
last year.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
And I think in most years you have at least
a couple of guys where you can say, yeah, like
that guy's going to be a head coach this year.
And so if you're a team that's like considering a changer,
you're on the fence. Maybe that gets your your guy
a stay of execution. I even argue with Miami right
like where Mike McDaniel has now you know, like resurrected,
you know, like perception. I it was interesting because I
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was having these conversations with some people with the Dolphins,
and you know what one person told me is like
that Steve Ross was hearing the buzz that Mike McDaniel
will be a great second chance head coach. And it
caused Ross to say, well, wait a second, then, why
why would we get rid.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Of him, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
If he's going to be such a good see, if
it's gonna be such a good hire for somebody the
second time around, why aren't we trying harder to see
if we can make the first time around work. So,
if you're them now and you're the Dolphins, you're looking
at it and you're saying, Okay, we fired the general manager.
Now Mike McDaniel has this team at six and seven
and going into Pittsburgh on Monday with a chance to
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get to five hundred. We're not eliminated from the playoffs.
We haven't lost since we fired the GM on Halloween.
I wouldn't you think twice about that? So I think
that's part of the equation for.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
A lot of these teams. Thanks again, Bert, good to
have you on.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You got it. You can call me whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
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Speaker 2 (25:52):
Reggie Aloysius Miller Junior, the third Hall of Famer NBC
Sports NBA Lead Game analyst, we're twenty five games in.
This is when we start to go okay. Now it
feels like it's a little bit more than just a trend.
It becomes a real story. So if that's the case,
what would be the number one story? Well, maybe it's
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OKAC is so much better than everybody else? Would that
be the number one story for you?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
I think yes, because now everyone it's going to be
on the tip of people's tongue. Can they eclipse that
Golden State record of winning seventy three seventy four games
and at the end of it winning the championship. People
need to remember the Warriors had that best record, but
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they lost in the finals. So I think people still
view the Bulls because of that seventy two and ten
record ended up winning the championship. I think everyone's thinking,
when is OKC gonna lose again? That would probably be
the number one story, and to me the number two story.
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We didn't think Luca and the Lakers would be this game.
No one thought Lebron would be the third Will on
this team, which he is, and that's a heck of
a third will to have. Austin Reeves is playing like
an All Star in a contract year. I didn't have
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the Lakers being this good. The question going forward can
they sustain it in health will be a big issue
in my opinion for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Let's go back to when Luca was in Dallas and
I know that we corresponded and you had said Luca
was out of shape. I don't know the exact language,
but then I know after the game you started to
wonder did you take a step too far? You know,
did you were you overly critical? And I wonder, looking
back on that, what kind of role do you think
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that played it all with Luca the Mavericks and maybe
where he is right now with the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I think the comments Kevin and I made, not necessarily
about his weight, but being in shape to play at
an NBA level. And if you listen to Luca's comments
the day after, he echoed what we said, like, yeah,
I'm not in the best of shape. I could be
in better shape. So he kind of piggyback what we said,
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and he knew. I mean, because whenever I say things,
it comes from a place of truth and love. I'm
not going to sugarcoat anything, and I would always want
someone to tell me the truth as well, when I
was a player, I respect that more so I think
he respected kind of what we were saying. And you
fast forward to now. JJ Rennick basically said the same
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thing in their postseason meetings, you got to get in
better shape. Well what does he do. He goes back
to Slovenia. He gets in the best shape, plays unbelievable,
the leading scorer in euro Basket. Carries that over into
this year and he's in the league and score. But
more importantly, it just looks better for him. He's moving better,
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there's more fluidity to his game. Not to say that
he couldn't have done that playing the way he played
in Dallas, but I think long, big and long pitcher
for Luca and the Lakers. If he stays in this shape,
I just think the numbers are going to go through
the roof because there's longevity, They're staying power when he
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plays at this weight and he looks this good Theodore.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And there's a lot of revisionist history too with Austin
Reeves because I didn't see this, No, I don't know
who did, but I remember talking to two college basketball
analysts and I said, do you remember Austin Reeves with
this potential, and they're like, well, you know, you could
see if he was gonna go. Really to me, no
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one thought that.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Look, I always thought this coming. And again I always
tell people this. You're a product of your environment. He
went undrafted and he wanted to sign with the Lakers.
He saw a fit in a place where he thought
he could build a Niche he took a gamble on himself,
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Dan and knocked on wood help provide it. I think
it's going to pay off because the Lakers or someone
is going to have to pay him because he is
a legitimate number one on a bad team. If he
goes somewhere else so he could be a number one
on a bad team, or if he stays with the Lakers,
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be an unbelievable Robin to Batman because he has certainly
taken that role from Lebron, and I think they respect that.
So right now he's in the cat first seat and
he controls his own destiny. As long as he continues
to play like this and understand and know his role,
which he plays perfectly.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
She gonna get fifty million dollars a year.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
I mean that's what it looks like. I mean, damn,
I'm not gonna. You can't fault that he has put
in the work. Think about how he's come along when
he was first thrust into it with just Lebron, and
Lebron was giving him. I remember a clip when Lebron
was explaining something to him and he looked like a
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deer in headlights when Lebron was explaining a rotation on
the floor and he was like looking like, like, what
do I do? I rotate? And you fast forward to
now he is one of the biggest vote of voices
on this Lakers team. So fifty million is coming his way,
either from the Lakers or from someone else. The matter vague.
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Will it be for five years or four years? He's
getting it somewhere.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, And I don't be grudging making the money. If
you go from undrafted to your kind of there and
then you would like little bits and pieces where you go.
All right.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I did.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Can't get a shot, all right, he did, can't get
to the hole, all right? He's a great And then
all of a sudden Lebron goes out, and then all
of a sudden, Austin Reeves or Luca's out, and then
Austin Reeves is like, uh, do I need to get
forty like that, doesn't you know that's that's hard to compute.
Where you go. I can go out and get forty,
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you know a couple of times here, or I can
be a twenty five point scorer. I guess it was
just the surprising element of And somebody told me who
works with the Lakers. We saw him in practice, and
you know, playing in practice, sometimes you'll see somebody and
you'll go, look, man.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Great practice player.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
But yeah, exactly, yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
It translates the games. And this is why I tell
kids in high school and college players alike, rankings really
don't mean anything. They don't. It's what's in your heart
and it's how you developed. I was a late bloomer
and I came on late. I was late to be
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recruited by UCLA. I was slow to develop At UCLA.
They brought me along slow, which was great because they
allowed me to grow into my game. And I think
Austin Rivers is like that as well. So don't worry
about rankings, don't worry about what other people say. As
long as you put the grind in and the hard work,
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the fruits of your labor will come out. Finding the
right fit would he be the successful if he was
in Minnesota, if he was in Charlotte, we don't know.
Sometimes it's the right fit. And let's give Rob Polinka
and that staff a lot of credit for taking a gamble.
Sometimes you got to take a gamble, a risky gamble,
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and it pays off and it works out.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I got a Red G. Miller the Hall of Famer.
When do the Bucks decide what they're gonna do with Yannis?
Speaker 6 (34:00):
To me, it's got to be sooner than later. And
if you're Doc Rivers, and I know he's said all
the right things that Giannie has not come out and
said he wants to be traded. But you just have
to figure, are we wasting this young man's prime years here?
(34:22):
They've tried to do everything to surround him with talent.
Now he's got to stay on the court.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Now.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
I know he's had some nagging, nagging injuries this last
this year as well as towards the end of last year.
To me, he doesn't want to be the a hole.
He doesn't want to come out and be demonstrative and
say I want to be traded. But to me, he
he has earned the right. He brought them a Championship.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
But he's got to be careful that he doesn't say
I want to go to the Knicks. He's got to
be I'm open to being.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Everything has to be behind closed door with him, and
I'm sure he's he's voiced that, but he just can't
public publicly come out and say I want to go
to the Knicks, which everyone that's our job. But everyone's
formulating the numbers. Will it be Miami, will it be
New York? Could it be La? Who do you is
(35:19):
Reeves in this deal? I mean, there's there's so many
ways that people are crunching the numbers. It just from
a basketball standpoint, then you know this him in New
York just makes sense, doesn't it? Himpaired?
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
But who does? You got to look at both sides
of the deal. People only look at one side and
to go, man, be honest with the Knicks. Okay, who
are the Bucks going to get? And you go, you
know what, we did the best we could. We have
Karl Anthony Towns, and we have Michel Bridges, and we
have what is that enough?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
And probably a protected pick. I mean, if you're if
you're of Milwaukee and I can get Karl Anthony Towns,
who's an All Star, one of the premier shooting big
men our game has ever seen. And Michael Bridges, who
hasn't missed the game since his seventh grade AAU team,
so you know he's reliable and will play. You're getting
(36:17):
two guys that have been on I know you'll never
get fair value. You're never gonna get equal trade value
for yon Man.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
But you don't want draft picks you would you wanted.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I need a couple of draft picks as well. I
need those two guys, and I need two first round picks.
Let's shake hands and call it today.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
You mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, and I
have a friend who works in the NBA, and he goes,
what's Reggie smoking? When you said con Canipple and his
three point shooting? And I said, I think Reggie firmly
believes Conkniple he's gonna set the all time rookie record
for three pointers made. To get Yeah, the given, the.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Question will be here's the thing when people say, you
know what am I smoking? The question will be for Kahn,
will he be a go to guy? Like how Steph
was a go to guy from years five through now
because his first three or four years he was in
he was injury riddled. So so Con will have those
(37:23):
numbers on Steph the first three years. The question going
forward for kN will be in year four and five,
where's his development and where is he in the pecking
order if he is even if he's still in Charlotte,
who even knows if he'll be there? That's will he
have the longevity? Because Steph has always had the longevity
(37:45):
after year four and he was the go to guy.
Will Kan be a go to guy? And will he
always get these get the opportunities that Steph has gotten.
Who knows, But if you're going to go by the
first two or three years, Conn will have the numbers
on step.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Do you knew who has the rookie record for most
three pointers? Mate? Paulie said, I would be shocked. Now
is this a recent guy, Pauline?
Speaker 8 (38:14):
Yeah, he's still pretty young. He plays in a town
that doesn't get a ton of coverage on the NBA calendar.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Trey Young, Keegan Murray.
Speaker 8 (38:25):
Two hundred and sixty threes with your Kings, Dan, Wow,
your guy Con right?
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Now?
Speaker 8 (38:32):
What is that number, by the way, two thirty six
two six two so Keegan Murray Conknipple right now is
on pace for two hundred and sixty three threes.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
He blow away the record. Yeah, dang, But he plays
in Charlotte.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
That's the problem. And will he stay in Charlotte his
whole career or will someone come a calling? Right? So,
does he stay healthy? And will he ever be a
go to guy like Stephan Curry? He's not even a
go to guy on Charlotte right now. The reason why
he's getting all these threes is LaMelo's been in and
(39:08):
out of the lineups. Brandon Miller has been in and
out of the lineups, so the opportunity is there. I
would I'm curious to see once everyone is healthy, does
he still get these looks, which I hope he does
because he's a fly out shooter. But again, view him
on his first three years versus steph first three years.
(39:29):
He'll have the numbers. The question will be going forward,
will be year.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Four on.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Can the Hornage be a playoff team if LaMelo ball
is your best player? No, No, nothing to happen there.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
I love Jamelo, I love LaMelo, but LaMelo has to
stay healthy, and to me, he just has to.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
He's just a curiosity. He's a curios He's just a
he's a guy out there having fun. But I don't
think I.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Would love to see him on a really, really good
team where every possession matters.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
Paul Paulie, what what do you have Reggie Miller's total
threes as a rookie. By the way, Reggie came off
the bench as a rookie, so he played eighty two games,
started one. He was sixty one for one seventy two
as a rookie.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Sixty one threes.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And I broke Larry birds record. Yes, record, that was
breaking Larry Birds record. I think Larry Bird had like
fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Right, Polly, that's right.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
I broke it with sixty one.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
And what is coln at right now currently?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Is that eighty one?
Speaker 6 (40:43):
Come on, man, and we're not even We're only a
quarter up to the season.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
I know he's gonna and.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Great the homework. Do the homework.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
What did Reggie average assist was?
Speaker 8 (40:59):
I think he had three assists that season.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Now you have one hundred and thirty two assistans. No,
you could pass if you wanted to.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
No, right, thank you, Theodore, if I wanted if you
just did not leader. Put the ball in the basket
five minutes left in the game. Close the game. That's
what it said, up my bio.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Oh dude, okay, my.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Job description when they hired me.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I love that Reggie would pass it, but he wanted
it back after he passed, because I pass it, I'll
pass it back.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Bring.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
What's his career high assist in a game in a
game in a season?
Speaker 6 (41:47):
One footble double? That was it?
Speaker 8 (41:49):
Okay, I got eleven assists in a game for Reggie.
His best season, he averaged four assists a game year five.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Wow, Well, why are you looking at me like that, Theodore?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
The game has changed to point. We had a point
guard that distributed the ball. We had shooting guards that
shot the ball. We had small forwards who were like
wing players who defended.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
How many how many assisted Bird? How many assisted Bird average?
When he was playing because he had a point guard,
he ended up getting you know, seven eight, that's different.
Speaker 8 (42:29):
In different Larry Bird's best season he everaged seven and
a half a siss a game.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Okay, I'm just saying he was a shooter and a rebounder,
but also passing. You were coming up with excuses there.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
No, no, no excuse. It's just knowing my role. That's
the key for eighteen years plus is knowing your role.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Were you ever first or second or thirteen old defense?
Speaker 9 (42:52):
No, no, Now what they should have had a category
for was I could have been first, second, thirteen all team.
Speaker 6 (43:05):
I was a great team help. You were a helper,
a great help defender. So when someone got meat slide
over and then let Dell and Rick and Jay.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Wait a minute, but you you were guarding shooting guards.
You're the one that needed team help.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
I forced them into the hell. Oh that's not that's
health defense. You forced them to your fee.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Help help help somebody pick up kelbe somebody get Kobe
help help. Uh, thank you Rech, good to talk to you.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Appreciate your Theodore. Thank you Danny. That's Paulie. A great
job out no stats
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Frinch, what you do you get an assist there, Paulie,
that's what you get.
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