March 5, 2026 • 44 mins
DP remembers Lou Holtz. The Athletic NFL writer Michael Silver weighs in on a complicated situation with the Raiders, highlighting the uncertainty with Maxx Crosby's future. NFL on FOX insider Jay Glazer praises Maxx Crosby's relentless work ethic and gives his thoughts on Aaron Rodgers' future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got the odds from DraftKings this morning because I thought, well,
the Rams were busy yesterday, what does that mean for
their Super Bowl odds. DraftKings has the Rams as the
favorite plus seven fifty, followed by the defending Super Bowl
champion Seahawks at plus nine hundred. Then you have the
Bills at plus one thousand, followed by the Ravens Eagles. Also,
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the Chiefs are in there after making this big trade.
So the Eagles, Chiefs, and Packers all at plus fourteen hundred,
and the Rams over under went from ten and a
half to eleven and a half yesterday after they made
the trade for defensive back Trent mcduffe. This was a
great move I think by both teams. The Rams looked
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like a finished product last year. You had Matthew Stafford MVP.
You had wide receivers, a couple of really good defensive linemen,
but the problem was the secondary LA surrendered an average
of thirty one points in their losses season. Mac Jones
and Sam Darnold both threw for over three hundred and
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forty yards against the Rams. Bryce Young and Jalen Hurts
through a combined six touchdowns against this defense. So Sean
McVay and Less Snead. The GM decided, we can't ignore
the evidence any longer, so they traded for Trent McDuffie
with the Kansas City Chiefs. So the Rams are in
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a win now mode, and why not you have an
elite cornerback. Now, now you can say, all right, Trent,
there's your guy you got in Jigma, you.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Got to take him.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And this is going to help out immensely with that
defensive line because now you've got a guy that you
can put single coverage on some of the best receivers.
But elite corners are rarely available. But you're chasing a
Super Bowl in your own division, chasing the defending champs,
and you still have the Niners twice a year as well.
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But McDuffie's going to change the game for them. He's
going to change matchups, and for a team already near
the top, I like what they did. They want to
stay on top of that mountain. But looking back at
some of these games, Week three, Jalen Hurts three touchdowns,
no interceptions, AJ Brown had one hundred and nine receiving yards,
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and then you had two weeks later against the Niners
Mac Jones throws for three hundred and forty yards two touchdowns.
Kendrick Bourne had ten catches for one hundred and forty
two yards. Bryce Young in Week thirteen, three touchdown passes.
Then you had Week sixteen Sam Darnold, he goes for
two hundred and seventy yards. They lost to the Falcons,
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but nothing really notable as far as wide receivers there.
And then the Seahawks in the playoffs Sam Donald three
touchdown passes over three hundred forty yards and JSN had
ten catches for one fifty Now you got a guy
who's going to make you a whole lot better. And
it will come down to this, it's still Matthew Stafford.
If Matthew Stafford is able to stay upright for seventeen weeks,
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Rams are the team to beat. I thought they were
the team to beat last year. But look, they had
a glaring weakness and I love the fact that they
were aggressive. You give up a lot, and I thought, well,
Kansas City is getting rid of a twenty five year
old defensive back. Now somebody's gonna have to pay him,
and he's gonna make twenty five million dollars a year probably.
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But the Rams looking at this and saying, maybe we
have a two year window with Matthew Stafford. Let's go
get it again. And they certainly went out and did that.
The fact that they're going from ten and a half
to eleven and a half. No other team right now
has a win total over under of eleven and a half.
The Rams are the first team to get there. So
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that was yesterday. That was fun and a little bit surprising.
But we'll talk some football. Your phone calls always welcome.
Come up with a pole question as well. We have
a baseball going on somewhere in the world with the
World Baseball Well it is called the World Baseball Classic
and USA versus Brazil on Friday. Plan Accordingly, Lou Holtz
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passed away yesterday. He was in hospice for a while,
age eighty nine. And if you weren't around when he
was at Notre Dame, you don't understand the magnitude of
heat what he did, what the impact that he had
on college football. He was one of the faces, one
of the voices, very entertaining, and he brought Notre Dame
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a national championship. But if you were ever around him,
he was he was a guy who was going to
entertain you. He had a lot of great stories and
he loved to share those. But he was more than
just Notre Dame's head coach. He coached a variety of places.
And I don't think he's in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I you know, maybe check that, Paul.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know if Lou Holtz is in the college
Football Hall of Fame, which would surprise me.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
But somebody was talking about that to me yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yes, Paul, he was inducted in the College Football Hall
of Fame in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Oh good, okay, yeah, because I know Digger Phelps, Notre
Dame basketball coach, is not in the Hall of Fame.
Now that's the basketball Hall of Fame. But for Lou Holtz,
he was, as PAULI said, a pisser. I think he
wasn't afraid to give you an opinion, tweak you a
little bit, yell at the officials, and you know, you
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start to look at Notre Dame football. They've had a
lot of great coaches there, nobody more as charismatic, as
charismatic as Lou Holtz. But at age eighty nine, and
he became a great analyst, a fun analyst, he was
with Mark May with the mothership.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Rhys Davis.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Reese tells a great story he played with Lou Holtz
at Augusta. Lou was a member of Augusta, and I
think when he was at South Carolina, part of his
deal when he was coaching there is he got a
membership to Augusta. And later in his life he couldn't
really hit it very far. I don't know if he
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could ever hit it very far, but the fact that
he took Rhyese Davis, Jay billis and I think Mark
May to Augusta. And he told this story to Scott
van Pelt last night. But the par three twelve he
would lay up. Now, Yes, he would lay up on
a hole that was one hundred and forty nine yards
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and what he would do is he'd hit it before
it got to rays creek and then he would chip up,
and you know, sometimes he would end up with a
par But he loved playing there, he loved bringing people there,
and he would he would chip up and right before
the creek, so he probably hit it one hundred and
twenty yards and then he would chip it onto the
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green on a par three. But Rhese Davis tells this
story that Lou Holts won a bet with Mark May
and he had just had neck surgery, Lou had and
they were going to get a picture because Mark had
to give him the money that he won on this bet,
and Lou goes, hold on, hold on, hold on. He
goes into the clubhouse, he gets his neck brace that
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he's supposed to be wearing, and he comes out for
the picture. To make it even more like, how did
you let a guy in a neck brace beat you
in golf?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Mark May? But that was Lou.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
He was always one step ahead, and age of eighty nine,
he lived a very very eventful life.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Seeton.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Let's poll question today. We got two of them here.
We might as well start with the Lou Holtz bole question.
One of his most famous quotes, Dan, that you love
is they put their pants on the same way that
we do.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
So it got me to thinking, when you are putting
your pants on left leg first, right leg first, were
you not sure? I want to see if we all
actually put our pants on the same way.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
This was Lou's, you know, famous quote that he would
say to his players just to make it, you know, like, hey,
they put their pants on the same way we do,
we can go out and beat these guys.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So are you a left leg first or a right
leg first? Or are you're not sure?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'm left leg?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Say I'm right leg and my right leg always goes
in first.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, I go left.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, I'm a two and jump guy. I put both
feet in simultaneously, pull and jump. It cuts off tons
of time. It probably bought me an extra year of
I think you learned that when you were four. If
I'm not mistaken too, probably I do the edge of
the bed two feet in, pull, jump and jump. Snaps.
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You kids out there, don't try it without parental supervision.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, and a snack. I wouldn't jump.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I used to be a left leg, right leg because
right leg left leg you're a maniac.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, I'd be nervous though. Degree of difficulty, yes, Todd.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
I wonder how many people like me anyway? Me to
lean up against the wall or be in a seated
position to put their pants down says a lot about
your abs and I think your general core. Do you
need to be like laying down or sitting or up
against a wall to.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Put your pants on?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
How old are you?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I am fifty six?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And you have to be seated to put your pants on.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
I prefer it's more comfortable to be in a sitting
position or on the bed, or up against the wall,
or just have some kind of foulkrum to help me
get my pants on.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Diould you say.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and say,
that's the first time folkrum has ever been used on
You even know if.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
I'm using it right, But it just sounds like a
cool word.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Fukrum is a pivot point or hinge.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
For me, just you know, just standing up and putting
my pants, you know, I feel something in my lower
back or my quad or something like that, or a hamstring.
I like to kind of I need something to kind
of lean on.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
How about you, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Right leg, left leg?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Okay? And anything else that we want to ponder with
a pole question here to.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And jump and Todd needs a full This is this
is producing way more than I could have ever.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I just propped up a little bit for the putting
on the I like to live on the edge.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Here's one from uh here it's one switching up topics
a little bit. Here's one from Todd that's funny. This
is the Miles Garrett pole question. How many speeding tickets
would you need to get in less than ten years
to start slowing down? Three, five, seven, or at least nine.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So he has nine speeding tickets in the last since
twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I believe.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So how do you keep your license? I know you
just pay a fine, but don't you get points? Don't
they don't you accumulate enough points that you get your
license suspended?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
At least he's.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Not in the public eye where no one's gonna find
out about it. Can just kind of like live under.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I wonder how bad of a speeding ticket it has
to be? Like if you're always you know, what is
that saying like eight your great nine your mind or whatever.
If you're always at like nine to ten miles an
hour over where, it's really not that big of a
d or he's not, Oh it's a significant Oh yeah.
He was clocked going ninety four in a seventy. That's excessive.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He was clocked going one hundred in a sixty.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
That is excessive.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Uh, let's see reckless.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You might say he's a Miles Garrett speeders.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Miles per hour yeah, uh, sixty five in a forty five.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That's too fast.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, but don't you get points against you and your
license and you get a certain number of points and
then your license gets suspended.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
What do you think his insurance is. It's got to
be astronomical.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I hope he's bundling with liberty mutual.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yes, reach out to him.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
What is the motivation you think for excessive speeding? You
think it's cool. You're in a big rush all the time.
You like to feel How about you tell me no, No,
I don't really speed much. I'm the one that gets
in trouble because I'm going too slow in the left lane,
so I have to defer to you guys.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, so what are my options here?
Speaker 7 (11:58):
It's very cool to go fast. I like how it
feels to be in a car that's going fast. I'm
at a big rush. I'm very important, and I have
to get somewhere as quickly as possible, even at the
risk of injuring or killing other people on the road,
because I have to just get their fast.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I don't know what his motivation is. I've never gotten
a speeding ticket. You've never gotten a speeding ticket?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No, Yeah, Paul I think with someone like Miles Garrett
or anyone who has a sports car, I'm looking at
his car. It's a three hundred thousand dollars sports car.
It's meant to be driven fast, and it's not meant
to be on normal roadways. There must be almost like
a tick that says, I bought this car, I'm going
to stretch it out, which it's wrong, but I think
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that's the motivation.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And Shadoor Sanders maybe it's something about the Cleveland Browns
at he.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Kind of get out of there as fast as he
can get it. Now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Shador was arrested.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, he got a ticket a couple of times, I
think in his first year in Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yes, if you're not showing off, then what kid you
just he's got the money rent some time on a racetrack.
If you feel a need to go really fast and
circle so you're not putting other people in danger and
how much it cost to go to the Daytona or
wherever you have to go, just do that. Unless, again,
you want to show off your car and how fast
you can drive, then that's a whole other story. Yeah,
I said it. Look at me and look at my
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fatty expensive car and how fast a driver?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Okay, I dare you to pull me over on Miles Garrett.
If Miles Garrett came on the show, I would say
that to him.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
You would, yeah, only because you're putting other people's lives
in danger because you have to drive your expensive car fast.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Well those are you know when you go a hundie
in a sixty on the highway. Okay, I mean that
that to me. I got to take away your license,
I would think. But I, once again, I grew up
in Ohio, but I don't know what the laws are
anymore with what happens when you get a speeding ticket.
I thought that that counted as points, and if you
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got to a certain number of points, then they took
away your license, or at least I remember that happening
to a couple of my friends who might have been
drinking and driving as well.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yes, Paul, I'm on the Ohio DMV website, of course,
Dan and they do have a points system, and if
you go over twelve points for various infractions in a
two year period, you get a six month suspended license.
So apparently, but if you get caught speeding it off,
Ohio does that are those points that go on your license.
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It also says if you have fifteen plus sex and
our defensive player of the year, all rules are waived.
It's in the fine print.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, but they still they give him a ticket. It's
not like they let him go. Yeah, I mean you
still have to pay a fine. He doesn't have to
go to court. I don't think in there a like
a miles per hour margin where you go. I think
you're going to have to go see the judge for
that one. Definitely right.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You don't want to get a speeding ticket where they're like, okay,
and so your car stays here and you're coming with us. Yeah,
that's that's a very bad speeding ticket. One you do
not want.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But forty miles an hour over the speed limit excessive.
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Mike Silver has an article. He is a senior national
writer for the Athletic and this has to do with
Max Crosby and Max's future. Max was not happy when
he was I don't think he was a healthy scratch,
but he did want to play. In those last two games,
the Raiders wanted to make sure that they were tanking.
They wanted to make sure they got Fernando Mendoza. Well,
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mission accomplished, But what's the future of Max Crosby. Michael
Silver back on the program. Mike, good to talk to
you again. If you were going to sum up the
state of the Raiders, how would you do that in
a couple of sentences.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
I'll do it even quicker. They're a mess and Dan
that's usually the case when a team goes four and
thirteen and three and fourteen and fires coaches after each season.
But yeah, in this case, they don't have a lot
of valuable trade assets. They're obviously in need of a rebuild,
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and so just on paper, taking the emotion out of it,
it doesn't make sense to think about trading Max Crosby.
They're asking for a Mica Parsons like Hall. I think
that's probably a little ambitious, But there are many teams
trying to get Max Crosby, and he's getting older. He
would be going on his sixth head coach if you
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count Rich Basatia, who had a long interim stint, and
you know he definitely wants out of there, so you know,
in some ways this is a simple equation he wants
to go. They need assets and to get younger. We'll
see if they pull the triggers soon or if this
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trags on a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Okay, give me the teams at the front of the
line for Max.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
You know, I'm not exactly sure which teams. My colleague
Diana Rossini has been all over this and I'm sure
she will be at the forefront, you know, in the
coming days. I know that it makes sense for Max
Crosby that he wants to go to a team that
has a chance to contend to something that has not
been the case during his Raiders tenure. They did sneak
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into the playoffs during that interim Basata year. Other than that,
it's been rough. But you know, I look at seems
like say, the Patriots, the Ravens. There's been a lot
of talk about the Bears. I think the Cowboys, who
have signaled their willingness to be aggressive, you know, coming
off of the Parsons trade and then going out and
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getting Quinn Williams, would be a team that I'd look at.
But you know, it felt like he has veto power,
you know, he could he could threaten to retire if
it was another situation that he thought was pretty desperate.
I thought the Raiders might be working with him and
his agent a little you know more blatantly here and
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trying to find a spot. Their attitude seems to be, hey,
we're just going to take the best deal, so we'll
see how it plays out.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And the Raiders are set on Mendoza correct, no matter yes,
what they're offered.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Uh, you know, I think if the Jets wanted to
do something insane right and and give up tons and
tons of appital, they would listen for sure. And the
Jets are setting it too, so that probably makes the
most sense. So I would say Mendoes' no matter what.
Assuming they you know, are set on drafting somebody, you
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could make a case if they're offered something massive they
would listen. But yeah, I would strongly expect Mendoza to
be the guy. And you know, they have a chance
to try to do what they should have done last
year and be honest about their situation, you know, dold
it back up and try to do it in a
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more organic way. Last year was trying to split the difference,
and we saw how that worked out.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
How did the Raiders get here?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
You know, it starts at the top, Don and I
obviously covered Al Davis really closely. You know, got banned
from the facility and from the locker room on several occasions.
It was not you know, was not milk and honey,
But you know, I always had so much respect for
Al Davis being one of the icons of football and
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obviously had a lot of football knowledge. There were organizational
issues that you know, kept them from being able to
recapture that past glory and really since since that two
thousand and two run to the Super Bowl, they've only
been in the playoffs twice and have not won a
playoff game. So, you know, that whole raider commitment to
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excellence thing that that is a relic, and a lot
of young people have no idea what those slogans would
possibly stand for. You know, Mark Davis was not a
football icon. He was, like many next generation owners, just
kind of, you know, born into it. He's tried to
find his way. So I do think it starts at
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the top. The column I wrout in the Athletic explores
some of the other dysfunction and that building. And now
you have Mark Davis doing something which on paper, I
think most people would agree is an exciting thing. He's
turning to Tom Brady, one of the most ruthless competitors
and greatest winners I've ever seen in any sport, and saying, Tom,
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you're a minority owner, give me the blueprint. But Brady's
not there. He's working for Fox. He's living at Florida,
as is his prerogative. He's got Alex Grrero, who's someone
he's close to in the building as the wellness coordinator,
but sounds like Alex Grrero from talking to players and
coaches and other people in that building, is presenting himself
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as someone far more powerful. He's certainly perceived as a
guy who will go running to Brady with anything he
sees or hears, and that does not seem to be
a great environment. And it's part of the equation when
it comes to Max Crosby's desire to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
But Tom Brady is running the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
I mean, Mark Davis said it. You know, that's kind
of what we all believed last year. And then when
they fired Pete Carroll, Mark Davis issued a statement and
said general manager John Spytek will lead this search in
all football operations with Tom Brady. So you know, you've
got a first time general manager in Spytek who's's working hard,
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trying to do a tough job. But it's you know,
Mark Davis came out and said Tom Brady's doing it too.
So again, on paper, that's exciting Tom Brady. You know,
I've seen him defy odds and galvanize people around him
in a way that is mind boggling. And you know,
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I think it's just hard in the NFL for us,
you know, watching this from the outside to think, you know,
someone could do that from afar. And I can't tell
Tom Brady how to live his life. He's getting paid
a lot of money to be a broadcaster. He's a father,
he's you know, got a residence across the country. But
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you know, I think what's hard for people in that
building is when somebody is going around kind of acting like, hey,
I'm the pipeline to Tom, but doesn't have those credentials
on the football side. That's that's kind of a recipe
for confusion.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He's Michael Silver, senior national writer for The Athletic. Before
I let you go, I was always wondering about this.
It felt like Brady was a mentor to Shodoor Sanders,
that Dion had asked Tom to kind of help Shadoor,
and then Tom's in a position to draft shoeddor Sanders
on a team that needed a quarterback or maybe develop
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a quarterback, and they didn't. They passed over Shador, you know,
every single round there. It just seemed strange that Tom
knew Shador, He's in a position to draft Shedoor and
didn't pull the trigger on that.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Why Well, you know that goes back to the is
Tom all in or is Tom not all in? If
I recall Tom's comment after or didn't get drafted was
kind of like, you know, I'm not in charge of
that and so you know again, and that may be
true and well meaning, right Tom at the time might
have been like, hey, look, I'm not going to come
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in and try to be the overlord of this organization.
I'm going to let John Spidek and Pete Carroll and
my football people do what they think is best. You know,
Now it seems to be more blatant. Mark Davis is
coming out and saying it, so you kind of have
to own it. But yeah, I think Dan, that goes
back to everything that we're talking about. Is Tom Brady
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actually all in? Is he running it? What message are
people inside the building getting about the power structure and
the vision and how it's playing out. So it's probably
a positive development that Mark Davis tried to spell it
out and that, you know, and that they have a
coach who they in serry can try to build something
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with it. I love Pete Carroll. He's literally one of
the greatest coaches of his generation. I think he's a
Hall of Fame. So I don't want to in any
way say that hiring Pete Carroll, you know, was a negative,
but it kind of flew in the face of what
their situation was given his age and his desire to
win immediately, and it obviously didn't work.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Good stuff is always, Mike, good to talk to you.
Thanks for joining us. Thank you, dem That's Michael Silver.
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Speaker 2 (25:55):
No, we don't know. No, no, no, no, do.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
A little four play with me. You just spent a
week in Panama together. I got no love I did.
I did four play in Panama with you, you and
your lovely wife.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Hey, I haven't went to a church with you guys
in Panama for Fresh Wednesday. I'm a Jewish joy.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, we were going to dinner and it was ash
Wednesday and my wife was like, I gotta go get
my ashes, and all of a sudden we dragged Jay
into the church.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
No, no, no, I volunteer.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
No, I don't learn.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I want to learn.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
So we go in and then you know, I'm thinking
you're going to walk up and get your ashes and
I go, I don't think you should do that, Jay, I.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Don't think so.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
It doesn't matter how many different religion like you know,
temple's church, mosques I go to.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
There's not enough time to you know, atone for my sins. Yeah.
I didn't want to bother them with that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Okay, so great to see you, Jay, Funny.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Okay, feeling great, feeling feeling great.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I got my shoulder again this time, Man, I feel fantastic.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah. Well, really, how about you stop fighting people?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Why would I do that?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, I don't know. You're getting older and your body
is gonna I mean you.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Now, you're age shaming me.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
People always ask me like why do I still do
this stuff? I'd rather that kill me that I die
from not doing it, Like I gotta do it.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
I just it's the you know, always talking about I
need teams and teams, and for year between my ears,
these teams and I just, man, I love having those teams,
whether it's training players or I have a may guys.
My old guys were getting older now, so we're being
a little smarter with what we do in our heads.
But just trading players, you know, the guy I really
took on this year full time, if you will, was
Aj Barner, who did a great job obviously with Seattle.
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But you don't find guys like that as much anymore.
Like players are different now than they used to be
when I was trained. You know so many guys in
the offseason, and you always tell these guys that being
famous ain't the same as being great. And a lot
of these guys is come in now because they're so famous,
they don't have a need to be great. They don't
put that same work in Aj did Aj Man. He
just even came out during the bye week for a
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little two no, which guys normally don't do. But I
just I love to do if I can help make
somebody better, You know that that helps me again, hear him.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's why give me the current NFL player who you
think could be great in UFC oh Miles Garrett.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
I tried to brownse like a month my mouth put
his hands on me. That's that was terrible bad, That
was awful. About Mercedes Lewis, if he still qualifies here,
I've had him for about seventeen years. Mercedes throws kicks
and you know everything, He's like really a student of it.
I've always said, like, he's not current, but Kyle Long
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was a He's you know, if I didn't ever wrestle
Kyle Long, I would be at least five to seven
and a half now. But I'm trying to think current
guys who just feel really violent. Yeah, there's not a
Oh Max Crawsby Max actually legitimate. He legitimately trains.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
By the way, see here is he's done with the Raiders.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
I don't see him going back, but you know it's
up to the Raiders. Yeah, they're the ones who hold
the cards in this right now.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But he could, I guess he could retire and force
their hand.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Yeah he can. But you know, he loves football. He's
you know, it was interesting we when I talk about guys,
you know, want to be great and you know, trying
to be great instead famous. When he came out to
my gym to train, uh, he was like, I said,
we're starting five forty five, right, and I'm like five
forty five in the morning.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
He's like, yeah, that's what's time I started.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
I'm like, hey, dude, I'm I come at eleven okay,
I said, where we go to eleven?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Five forty five. He's like, well, I started five forty five,
and sure enough, five forty five every day goes in their.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Trains and he does you know, prehab and you know,
stretching and mobility and speed and agility and lists, and
then we do the m MA and then after that
he does a little bit more strength to say, and
then more hips and then rehab and you know all
this treatment stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
And it was every day.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Man, it's like five point forty five in the morning
till like two or three. And that's where that's where
you look for Like all the guys that we were
friends with from back in the day, that's the only
way they got famous.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
To be great.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
The only way to be great back then is to
work the world. I tell I tell these guys the
blueprints for greatness. It's not hard find who the best
is and do more than them. Well, most people just
aren't willing to do it. I haven't asked him, how
many of your guys like do this?
Speaker 5 (30:31):
But he's like, oh, I.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Offer to everybody, but they don't. And that's like today's athlete,
that's not how they're wired. But all the great ones,
that's how they're wired, right, And it's it I just
never got it. I never understood if that's where you
have to do, just put in more work. You don't
necessarily have to be more talented. Why don't you? And
it's like if you if you have a full and
a fun career, you're retired thirty two, think about that,
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Dan and people years thirty two, Right, it's young, go
out there and do whatever you want after that.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Thirty four it's young. I just never got it.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Do you think Micah Parsons wants to be famous more
than he wants to be great?
Speaker 8 (31:09):
No, I think it's but I think that's today's athlete.
I definitely think he wants to be great. But yeah,
I think without a doubt, like me, have podcasts and
you know, with your own teammates right about your your
team and stuff during the season, things like that.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Look, I was around Stray and who.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
Would be like the first of these guys and you
know he drove me back in New York City every
day when I was too broke to you know, be
able to pay for it subway and bus fare back
and forth. And football was always first, first, first by
a mile. He sit the other stuff in when it
when it was okay with it, but football was for
He did so much filmwork and so much work and
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and like extra work, extra work, extra work, and everybody thought.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Of the other way. It was never the other way.
I don't think it's the other way from Mikey either,
but just seems so much bigger, could have all the
other stuff he does.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
All right, let's run down some of these situations. Aaron Rodgers,
Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
I don't think he's there yet here and I haven't
talked to him. I saw him on pat yesterday. I
haven't talked for for a while. You know, we trained
together the last offseason, so I don't know where his
mindset is. I do love what he said about Mike,
and he's brought like Mike is uh McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Is uh man.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
I told him at the combine, I said, for you
to coach the Packers, Cowboys and now the Steelers, your
home town team, and like his parents are right there
in front, like the front row, and he's like, I
couldn't get past like three words without crying, like he
grew up right around the corner. I said, so you
coached these three teams, Mike, I don't know who you
were in a previous life.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
But God has blessed you. I think you're like.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Jonas Sulk and Cure in Polio. Here's your reward. It's unbelievable.
But the fact that he appreciates Mike this much now
was really good to see. Because Mike is great.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
You get to remember.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
People forget it was so bad on Aaron when they decided, Okay,
we're not gonna and I was right there through all
this stuff with them when Farv kept retiring and unretired,
retire and unretired, retired and unretired, and finally at the
end they're like, hey, we're going with Aaron. There is
people picketing outside Lambo that they didn't want Aaron there,
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this kid, this youngster, and for him to be able
to deal with this and.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Become the guy he became.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
That's why Jordan Love also has much stronger mental health,
and anybody gives them credit for he to be able
to deal with that to replace Aaron.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
But man, Aaron, they were picking their flying helicopters and
planes over and look at the year he had that
year and the career after that.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
And that's because Mike really is a He's great with
developing guys like that. But he do with him what
he do with Dak and whoever he's gonna be able
to develop over there in Pittsburgh. I don't know who
that is right now. I know they're like Will Howard,
but I don't know if that's their long term He's
not really he hasn't been around him enough to really
know that. But I think if Aaron wants to come
back and play another year, I'm sure they're welcome, welcome
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with open arms. And I know Pittsburgh liked him a
lot they did.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
What about the organization?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
What about Kyler Murray? Where does he land? Where should
he land?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Well?
Speaker 8 (34:22):
He and Tua should say, okay, I want to go
and try and learn from Kyle Shannhan, Carol O'Connell, Sean McVay,
Matt laflore, one of these guys, and Andy Reid and
Sean Bayton.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
But I don't see that there's not a lot of
quarterback developers.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
But you know, I was talking to you know, Kyle
Shannan this year and Kevin O'Connell kind of had the
same thing when we're talking about how you take these
guys and reprogram the mac Jones of the world.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Of Daniel Jones.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
And you know, I remember Shannan saying to me, for
these guys, you just got to get them.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
They're so beat up.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
You got to get them to play unafraid and if
you could start doing that, give him a cap. So
it's basically like, I want them play fast, but at
the same time, I want them to play fearless.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
That's what's fearless.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
If you get them to be fearless again, then they're
God given talent, which made them a top ten pick
starts coming back out, but they're so beat up they're
afraid to go do it. They're afraid of pull the trigger.
He said, that's the number one thing first. But also
like Lafloor, what do he did with Malik Willis with
his footwork phenomenal?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You know what a lot of these guys over do.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
With Kevin O'Connell, what he could do with those guys
technique wise, I would go and learn. So if I'm colored, though, yeah,
i'd go try and get with Kevin O'Connell, like I'm
if I'm a player, I would already be tampering. Here's
the other way around.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
We're talking to Jay Glazer NFL and Fox insider. The
market for Tua, I don't see.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
You know, there's options out there for people right now,
but same thing, I don't know if there's a I
don't think there's a huge market. And part of that
also is, you know, he's a hit away from here,
right so I think if you want to bring somebody in,
it's got to be almost like, hey, who who loves him?
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I don't. I haven't anybody say it yet to this point.
I think somebody will bring him in and take a flyer.
But I think Kyler will have a much bigger people go,
you know, after Coler more than they will.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
What about Atlanta for Tua?
Speaker 8 (36:23):
Yeah, what I'm saying, if I'm Atlanta, I'm looking at color.
You know, I think Coyler is you know, he jumps
out ahead of tour right now. And look, I can't
say a lot because I just haven't talked to like
Matt Ronnie and Cunningham and mister Fansky about to it.
But also to again, like, let's say everything works out,
he still you know, hadn't really protected himself much right
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appear right when he you know, with concussion.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
So let's say things work out right, and all of
a sudden man.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
He takes a day in the week seven, then you're
back to square, won't So I think even if you
have to, you got to have somebody else in place there.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
What do you make of the Rams Chiefs trade? You
don't get too many blockbusters like this in early March.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (37:08):
I would actually with Sean McVay this weekend and he
was telling me about it, and he was like over
the moon, like over the moon about this, and you know,
they trade away a lot for him. But Charlotte is
always the type of guy. And you know what, I'm
surprised about you because he's always the type of guy, like,
you know, I'm going for now and I think more
and more and I was saying, it's surprisingly, I told
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him this, surprising more people don't do what he does
because you know what.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
You're getting with the Trent mccuffey with these draft picks.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
Now, you know, you hear more and more complaints guys
of the combine, people not going on the combine, like
coaches anymore.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
So's like, we don't really know whe're getting these guys anymore.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
You can't really you know, your interviews, you can't pry
you get such a short period, and everybody's you know, programmed,
and I'm a fault for that too. I had a
bunch of kids this off season told him how to
you know, deal with the combine and how did you
just be honest with teams if you had off field
troubles and just other things, what they're gonna ask for
and everything in your life down He's about team team teams,
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but because they're so programmed, you don't really know where
you're getting anymore. And kids don't go through adversities much anymore. Right,
you have a problem from the transfer. That's why, by
the way, Tennessee went right for cam Ward because they
told me even before the combine, that's our guy, because
he'd been through adversity, which we don't find too many
guys like that anymore. So I think, you know, if
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you have a proven commodity in the NFL, I would
trade my picks also, And I'm surprised more teams don't
do it because the Rams are in it every single
year and it's a copycat league and nobody really does it.
They still have this old school thing of man, we
got to really reload through the draft. And I get it,
because if you hit then you have, you know, salary
cap relief there for.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
A few years at least. But Shaw was man, he
was so over the moon for this was he was
willing to go all in on this.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Do we know the time frame for Mahomes coming back?
Will is he expected to start the season.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
The rich the initial reports for you know, kind of
on the friends there. But I want to say, Patrick's different.
He's different. So he went down he immediately got the surgery,
flew himself down. I think he flew Provate down there,
got the surgery maybe the next day, which normally they
don't do because you want like the swelling. He got
a board really swelled up right. And so that was
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on a Tuesday. I believe it was either Thursday or
Friday that week. He was already in the Chief's training
room Doria and he already had gotten his knee bending
at ninety degrees at that point, which he's just different.
He heals differently. There is a guy you know who
dislocated his knee, chap and his leg. He was turned
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around during the game and he was like, hey, literally
he asked, they're training to Rick Burke hole the doctors
is it broken?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
No, okay? And taping up. What go back, like, we're
not taping up.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Your knee is facing that way, and they're like, He's like, no,
just tape it, let's go. And like you know, he
he had a dislocated toe going into a Super Bowl
and it fully dislocated and he never took any time
like he just finished finished out the game. His paying
threshold is different, his work ethics different. So well at
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first they're like, oh, could you know start of the season.
I think I would probably had done him being well
sooner than that by far, because he just attacks things
man like like Aaron with his you know, his achilles.
And Joe Burrow it was different too. Joe Burrow came
back two months early. That's ridiculous from his injury. That
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was that was ridiculous. That's probably one of the that's
one of the craziest things I've seen. I have a
Grade three turf toe and he's done. I come back,
you know as early as he did. I remember we were,
I was, I was in London last time we did
this show. Know, right at the trade deadline that day
he texted me He's come back. I'm like, come on, dude,
(41:07):
what do you you spend your time, Like, dude, edibles
this all season during your reab, there's no way. And
he's like, no, I'm coming back, and I'm coming back
way sooner than people think I'm talking, like in a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
I'm like, dude, there's no sure enough. You know, he's
just different.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
And I guessed right with Quinn Williams going to the
Cowboys that day you were on.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
Yes, let me tell you this. So it's trade. It's
trade deadline.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Dan and I are talking about our stem cell journey
together because on.
Speaker 8 (41:38):
I looked out on my phone and I'm texting and
he's like, what's going on trade? I said, yeah, it's
actually a team asking me about Quentinn Williams and uh,
you know, but they want like a blockbuster for him
and asking about Quinn Williams and he literally said is
the Cowboys? And it was the Cowboy Blase and I
kind of looked up, you know, kind of looked like
(41:59):
that joking a little bit, like oh my god. They're like,
are you you got? Are you you put a virus
of my phone down?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
And I'm an insider now I think I are. Yeah
you are.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, just don't don't ask OBJ he called me an outsider.
He did, yeah, I was right about something and he
I don't think he liked that I was correct about
something with him and he called me an outsider.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
He isn't now sensitive like that. I've had a lot.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Look.
Speaker 8 (42:25):
I reported that he was getting traded uh from the
Giants to another team, and I got mercilessly destroyed by
everybody like just and people started going onto Instagram and
like fans, listen, I'm an inside my jobs to report
information that you don't know. You knew it, You've done
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my job. So my job is to give you information
you don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
And we do it.
Speaker 8 (42:51):
Don't get mad in us, okay, or we won't do it.
And I put this out there. People started going onto
different people who I was training, and unbreakable celebrities and
some with drug issues and going on to them saying,
I hope you owe Deeve because you're stupid, you know,
trading partner, and saying Odell's getting traded like it was ridiculous.
(43:15):
Some of that for this Max Crosby won this off season,
people tell me how much I don't know, and attacking
Rosie and get after my wife and saying.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Some racial stuff and just like it's ridiculous.
Speaker 8 (43:27):
I got it for within Martindale two years ago, saying
they'd be gone from the Giants, and like Gian fans,
I've been covering this team since ninety three. If I
say something, instead of attacking me, you may want to
go call Draft Cans or Fanuel or something.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Maybe I don't want to be an insider.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
Yeah, I don't pull stuff out of my butt, and
but that's my job, is to come out of left
field and tell people things they don't know.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
And people get so upset. They got upset with the
Kevin O'Connell thing a couple of years ago that there
were teams looking at trade for him. There were four
teams that are trying to trade it. And then people
got upset that I reported on Sunday. And I'm like,
I don't work at Foxonville to work for Foxingville Sunday.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
It's the readers are being an insign man. But you
know what I am. You know what I hold.
Speaker 8 (44:13):
Sticks and stones thing you know don't break your bones,
but words will. I'm the opposite. Sticks and stones won't
do a thing to me.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
But what.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I said toitive great to see you, Thanks again a
man talk to you, so comments you dude?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
All right, that's Jay Glazier.
I got the odds from DraftKings this morning because I thought, well,
the Rams were busy yesterday, what does that mean for
their Super Bowl odds. DraftKings has the Rams as the
favorite plus seven fifty, followed by the defending Super Bowl
champion Seahawks at plus nine hundred. Then you have the
Bills at plus one thousand, followed by the Ravens Eagles. Also,
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the Chiefs are in there after making this big trade.
So the Eagles, Chiefs, and Packers all at plus fourteen hundred,
and the Rams over under went from ten and a
half to eleven and a half yesterday after they made
the trade for defensive back Trent mcduffe. This was a
great move I think by both teams. The Rams looked
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like a finished product last year. You had Matthew Stafford MVP.
You had wide receivers, a couple of really good defensive linemen,
but the problem was the secondary LA surrendered an average
of thirty one points in their losses season. Mac Jones
and Sam Darnold both threw for over three hundred and
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forty yards against the Rams. Bryce Young and Jalen Hurts
through a combined six touchdowns against this defense. So Sean
McVay and Less Snead. The GM decided, we can't ignore
the evidence any longer, so they traded for Trent McDuffie
with the Kansas City Chiefs. So the Rams are in
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a win now mode, and why not you have an
elite cornerback. Now, now you can say, all right, Trent,
there's your guy you got in Jigma, you.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Got to take him.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And this is going to help out immensely with that
defensive line because now you've got a guy that you
can put single coverage on some of the best receivers.
But elite corners are rarely available. But you're chasing a
Super Bowl in your own division, chasing the defending champs,
and you still have the Niners twice a year as well.
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But McDuffie's going to change the game for them. He's
going to change matchups, and for a team already near
the top, I like what they did. They want to
stay on top of that mountain. But looking back at
some of these games, Week three, Jalen Hurts three touchdowns,
no interceptions, AJ Brown had one hundred and nine receiving yards,
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and then you had two weeks later against the Niners
Mac Jones throws for three hundred and forty yards two touchdowns.
Kendrick Bourne had ten catches for one hundred and forty
two yards. Bryce Young in Week thirteen, three touchdown passes.
Then you had Week sixteen Sam Darnold, he goes for
two hundred and seventy yards. They lost to the Falcons,
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but nothing really notable as far as wide receivers there.
And then the Seahawks in the playoffs Sam Donald three
touchdown passes over three hundred forty yards and JSN had
ten catches for one fifty Now you got a guy
who's going to make you a whole lot better. And
it will come down to this, it's still Matthew Stafford.
If Matthew Stafford is able to stay upright for seventeen weeks,
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Rams are the team to beat. I thought they were
the team to beat last year. But look, they had
a glaring weakness and I love the fact that they
were aggressive. You give up a lot, and I thought, well,
Kansas City is getting rid of a twenty five year
old defensive back. Now somebody's gonna have to pay him,
and he's gonna make twenty five million dollars a year probably.
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But the Rams looking at this and saying, maybe we
have a two year window with Matthew Stafford. Let's go
get it again. And they certainly went out and did that.
The fact that they're going from ten and a half
to eleven and a half. No other team right now
has a win total over under of eleven and a half.
The Rams are the first team to get there. So
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that was yesterday. That was fun and a little bit surprising.
But we'll talk some football. Your phone calls always welcome.
Come up with a pole question as well. We have
a baseball going on somewhere in the world with the
World Baseball Well it is called the World Baseball Classic
and USA versus Brazil on Friday. Plan Accordingly, Lou Holtz
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passed away yesterday. He was in hospice for a while,
age eighty nine. And if you weren't around when he
was at Notre Dame, you don't understand the magnitude of
heat what he did, what the impact that he had
on college football. He was one of the faces, one
of the voices, very entertaining, and he brought Notre Dame
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a national championship. But if you were ever around him,
he was he was a guy who was going to
entertain you. He had a lot of great stories and
he loved to share those. But he was more than
just Notre Dame's head coach. He coached a variety of places.
And I don't think he's in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I you know, maybe check that, Paul.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know if Lou Holtz is in the college
Football Hall of Fame, which would surprise me.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
But somebody was talking about that to me yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yes, Paul, he was inducted in the College Football Hall
of Fame in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Oh good, okay, yeah, because I know Digger Phelps, Notre
Dame basketball coach, is not in the Hall of Fame.
Now that's the basketball Hall of Fame. But for Lou Holtz,
he was, as PAULI said, a pisser. I think he
wasn't afraid to give you an opinion, tweak you a
little bit, yell at the officials, and you know, you
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start to look at Notre Dame football. They've had a
lot of great coaches there, nobody more as charismatic, as
charismatic as Lou Holtz. But at age eighty nine, and
he became a great analyst, a fun analyst, he was
with Mark May with the mothership.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Rhys Davis.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Reese tells a great story he played with Lou Holtz
at Augusta. Lou was a member of Augusta, and I
think when he was at South Carolina, part of his
deal when he was coaching there is he got a
membership to Augusta. And later in his life he couldn't
really hit it very far. I don't know if he
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could ever hit it very far, but the fact that
he took Rhyese Davis, Jay billis and I think Mark
May to Augusta. And he told this story to Scott
van Pelt last night. But the par three twelve he
would lay up. Now, Yes, he would lay up on
a hole that was one hundred and forty nine yards
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and what he would do is he'd hit it before
it got to rays creek and then he would chip up,
and you know, sometimes he would end up with a
par But he loved playing there, he loved bringing people there,
and he would he would chip up and right before
the creek, so he probably hit it one hundred and
twenty yards and then he would chip it onto the
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green on a par three. But Rhese Davis tells this
story that Lou Holts won a bet with Mark May
and he had just had neck surgery, Lou had and
they were going to get a picture because Mark had
to give him the money that he won on this bet,
and Lou goes, hold on, hold on, hold on. He
goes into the clubhouse, he gets his neck brace that
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he's supposed to be wearing, and he comes out for
the picture. To make it even more like, how did
you let a guy in a neck brace beat you
in golf?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Mark May? But that was Lou.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
He was always one step ahead, and age of eighty nine,
he lived a very very eventful life.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Seeton.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Let's poll question today. We got two of them here.
We might as well start with the Lou Holtz bole question.
One of his most famous quotes, Dan, that you love
is they put their pants on the same way that
we do.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
So it got me to thinking, when you are putting
your pants on left leg first, right leg first, were
you not sure? I want to see if we all
actually put our pants on the same way.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
This was Lou's, you know, famous quote that he would
say to his players just to make it, you know, like, hey,
they put their pants on the same way we do,
we can go out and beat these guys.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So are you a left leg first or a right
leg first? Or are you're not sure?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'm left leg?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Say I'm right leg and my right leg always goes
in first.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, I go left.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, I'm a two and jump guy. I put both
feet in simultaneously, pull and jump. It cuts off tons
of time. It probably bought me an extra year of
I think you learned that when you were four. If
I'm not mistaken too, probably I do the edge of
the bed two feet in, pull, jump and jump. Snaps.
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You kids out there, don't try it without parental supervision.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, and a snack. I wouldn't jump.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I used to be a left leg, right leg because
right leg left leg you're a maniac.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, I'd be nervous though. Degree of difficulty, yes, Todd.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
I wonder how many people like me anyway? Me to
lean up against the wall or be in a seated
position to put their pants down says a lot about
your abs and I think your general core. Do you
need to be like laying down or sitting or up
against a wall to.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Put your pants on?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
How old are you?
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I am fifty six?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And you have to be seated to put your pants on.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
I prefer it's more comfortable to be in a sitting
position or on the bed, or up against the wall,
or just have some kind of foulkrum to help me
get my pants on.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Diould you say.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and say,
that's the first time folkrum has ever been used on
You even know if.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
I'm using it right, But it just sounds like a
cool word.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Fukrum is a pivot point or hinge.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
For me, just you know, just standing up and putting
my pants, you know, I feel something in my lower
back or my quad or something like that, or a hamstring.
I like to kind of I need something to kind
of lean on.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
How about you, Marvin.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Right leg, left leg?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Okay? And anything else that we want to ponder with
a pole question here to.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And jump and Todd needs a full This is this
is producing way more than I could have ever.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I just propped up a little bit for the putting
on the I like to live on the edge.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Here's one from uh here it's one switching up topics
a little bit. Here's one from Todd that's funny. This
is the Miles Garrett pole question. How many speeding tickets
would you need to get in less than ten years
to start slowing down? Three, five, seven, or at least nine.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So he has nine speeding tickets in the last since
twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I believe.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So how do you keep your license? I know you
just pay a fine, but don't you get points? Don't
they don't you accumulate enough points that you get your
license suspended?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
At least he's.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Not in the public eye where no one's gonna find
out about it. Can just kind of like live under.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I wonder how bad of a speeding ticket it has
to be? Like if you're always you know, what is
that saying like eight your great nine your mind or whatever.
If you're always at like nine to ten miles an
hour over where, it's really not that big of a
d or he's not, Oh it's a significant Oh yeah.
He was clocked going ninety four in a seventy. That's excessive.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
He was clocked going one hundred in a sixty.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
That is excessive.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Uh, let's see reckless.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You might say he's a Miles Garrett speeders.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Miles per hour yeah, uh, sixty five in a forty five.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That's too fast.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, but don't you get points against you and your
license and you get a certain number of points and
then your license gets suspended.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
What do you think his insurance is. It's got to
be astronomical.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I hope he's bundling with liberty mutual.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yes, reach out to him.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
What is the motivation you think for excessive speeding? You
think it's cool. You're in a big rush all the time.
You like to feel How about you tell me no, No,
I don't really speed much. I'm the one that gets
in trouble because I'm going too slow in the left lane,
so I have to defer to you guys.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, so what are my options here?
Speaker 7 (11:58):
It's very cool to go fast. I like how it
feels to be in a car that's going fast. I'm
at a big rush. I'm very important, and I have
to get somewhere as quickly as possible, even at the
risk of injuring or killing other people on the road,
because I have to just get their fast.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I don't know what his motivation is. I've never gotten
a speeding ticket. You've never gotten a speeding ticket?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No, Yeah, Paul I think with someone like Miles Garrett
or anyone who has a sports car, I'm looking at
his car. It's a three hundred thousand dollars sports car.
It's meant to be driven fast, and it's not meant
to be on normal roadways. There must be almost like
a tick that says, I bought this car, I'm going
to stretch it out, which it's wrong, but I think
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that's the motivation.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And Shadoor Sanders maybe it's something about the Cleveland Browns
at he.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Kind of get out of there as fast as he
can get it. Now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Shador was arrested.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, he got a ticket a couple of times, I
think in his first year in Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yes, if you're not showing off, then what kid you
just he's got the money rent some time on a racetrack.
If you feel a need to go really fast and
circle so you're not putting other people in danger and
how much it cost to go to the Daytona or
wherever you have to go, just do that. Unless, again,
you want to show off your car and how fast
you can drive, then that's a whole other story. Yeah,
I said it. Look at me and look at my
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fatty expensive car and how fast a driver?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Okay, I dare you to pull me over on Miles Garrett.
If Miles Garrett came on the show, I would say
that to him.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
You would, yeah, only because you're putting other people's lives
in danger because you have to drive your expensive car fast.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Well those are you know when you go a hundie
in a sixty on the highway. Okay, I mean that
that to me. I got to take away your license,
I would think. But I, once again, I grew up
in Ohio, but I don't know what the laws are
anymore with what happens when you get a speeding ticket.
I thought that that counted as points, and if you
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got to a certain number of points, then they took
away your license, or at least I remember that happening
to a couple of my friends who might have been
drinking and driving as well.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yes, Paul, I'm on the Ohio DMV website, of course,
Dan and they do have a points system, and if
you go over twelve points for various infractions in a
two year period, you get a six month suspended license.
So apparently, but if you get caught speeding it off,
Ohio does that are those points that go on your license.
(14:25):
It also says if you have fifteen plus sex and
our defensive player of the year, all rules are waived.
It's in the fine print.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, but they still they give him a ticket. It's
not like they let him go. Yeah, I mean you
still have to pay a fine. He doesn't have to
go to court. I don't think in there a like
a miles per hour margin where you go. I think
you're going to have to go see the judge for
that one. Definitely right.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You don't want to get a speeding ticket where they're like, okay,
and so your car stays here and you're coming with us. Yeah,
that's that's a very bad speeding ticket. One you do
not want.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But forty miles an hour over the speed limit excessive.
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Mike Silver has an article. He is a senior national
writer for the Athletic and this has to do with
Max Crosby and Max's future. Max was not happy when
he was I don't think he was a healthy scratch,
but he did want to play. In those last two games,
the Raiders wanted to make sure that they were tanking.
They wanted to make sure they got Fernando Mendoza. Well,
(16:04):
mission accomplished, But what's the future of Max Crosby. Michael
Silver back on the program. Mike, good to talk to
you again. If you were going to sum up the
state of the Raiders, how would you do that in
a couple of sentences.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
I'll do it even quicker. They're a mess and Dan
that's usually the case when a team goes four and
thirteen and three and fourteen and fires coaches after each season.
But yeah, in this case, they don't have a lot
of valuable trade assets. They're obviously in need of a rebuild,
(16:40):
and so just on paper, taking the emotion out of it,
it doesn't make sense to think about trading Max Crosby.
They're asking for a Mica Parsons like Hall. I think
that's probably a little ambitious, But there are many teams
trying to get Max Crosby, and he's getting older. He
would be going on his sixth head coach if you
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count Rich Basatia, who had a long interim stint, and
you know he definitely wants out of there, so you know,
in some ways this is a simple equation he wants
to go. They need assets and to get younger. We'll
see if they pull the triggers soon or if this
(17:25):
trags on a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Okay, give me the teams at the front of the
line for Max.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
You know, I'm not exactly sure which teams. My colleague
Diana Rossini has been all over this and I'm sure
she will be at the forefront, you know, in the
coming days. I know that it makes sense for Max
Crosby that he wants to go to a team that
has a chance to contend to something that has not
been the case during his Raiders tenure. They did sneak
(17:52):
into the playoffs during that interim Basata year. Other than that,
it's been rough. But you know, I look at seems
like say, the Patriots, the Ravens. There's been a lot
of talk about the Bears. I think the Cowboys, who
have signaled their willingness to be aggressive, you know, coming
off of the Parsons trade and then going out and
(18:15):
getting Quinn Williams, would be a team that I'd look at.
But you know, it felt like he has veto power,
you know, he could he could threaten to retire if
it was another situation that he thought was pretty desperate.
I thought the Raiders might be working with him and
his agent a little you know more blatantly here and
(18:36):
trying to find a spot. Their attitude seems to be, hey,
we're just going to take the best deal, so we'll
see how it plays out.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And the Raiders are set on Mendoza correct, no matter yes,
what they're offered.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Uh, you know, I think if the Jets wanted to
do something insane right and and give up tons and
tons of appital, they would listen for sure. And the
Jets are setting it too, so that probably makes the
most sense. So I would say Mendoes' no matter what.
Assuming they you know, are set on drafting somebody, you
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could make a case if they're offered something massive they
would listen. But yeah, I would strongly expect Mendoza to
be the guy. And you know, they have a chance
to try to do what they should have done last
year and be honest about their situation, you know, dold
it back up and try to do it in a
(19:35):
more organic way. Last year was trying to split the difference,
and we saw how that worked out.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
How did the Raiders get here?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
You know, it starts at the top, Don and I
obviously covered Al Davis really closely. You know, got banned
from the facility and from the locker room on several occasions.
It was not you know, was not milk and honey,
But you know, I always had so much respect for
Al Davis being one of the icons of football and
(20:10):
obviously had a lot of football knowledge. There were organizational
issues that you know, kept them from being able to
recapture that past glory and really since since that two
thousand and two run to the Super Bowl, they've only
been in the playoffs twice and have not won a
playoff game. So, you know, that whole raider commitment to
(20:32):
excellence thing that that is a relic, and a lot
of young people have no idea what those slogans would
possibly stand for. You know, Mark Davis was not a
football icon. He was, like many next generation owners, just
kind of, you know, born into it. He's tried to
find his way. So I do think it starts at
(20:54):
the top. The column I wrout in the Athletic explores
some of the other dysfunction and that building. And now
you have Mark Davis doing something which on paper, I
think most people would agree is an exciting thing. He's
turning to Tom Brady, one of the most ruthless competitors
and greatest winners I've ever seen in any sport, and saying, Tom,
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you're a minority owner, give me the blueprint. But Brady's
not there. He's working for Fox. He's living at Florida,
as is his prerogative. He's got Alex Grrero, who's someone
he's close to in the building as the wellness coordinator,
but sounds like Alex Grrero from talking to players and
coaches and other people in that building, is presenting himself
(21:39):
as someone far more powerful. He's certainly perceived as a
guy who will go running to Brady with anything he
sees or hears, and that does not seem to be
a great environment. And it's part of the equation when
it comes to Max Crosby's desire to get out of there.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
But Tom Brady is running the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
I mean, Mark Davis said it. You know, that's kind
of what we all believed last year. And then when
they fired Pete Carroll, Mark Davis issued a statement and
said general manager John Spytek will lead this search in
all football operations with Tom Brady. So you know, you've
got a first time general manager in Spytek who's's working hard,
(22:24):
trying to do a tough job. But it's you know,
Mark Davis came out and said Tom Brady's doing it too.
So again, on paper, that's exciting Tom Brady. You know,
I've seen him defy odds and galvanize people around him
in a way that is mind boggling. And you know,
(22:46):
I think it's just hard in the NFL for us,
you know, watching this from the outside to think, you know,
someone could do that from afar. And I can't tell
Tom Brady how to live his life. He's getting paid
a lot of money to be a broadcaster. He's a father,
he's you know, got a residence across the country. But
(23:07):
you know, I think what's hard for people in that
building is when somebody is going around kind of acting like, hey,
I'm the pipeline to Tom, but doesn't have those credentials
on the football side. That's that's kind of a recipe
for confusion.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He's Michael Silver, senior national writer for The Athletic. Before
I let you go, I was always wondering about this.
It felt like Brady was a mentor to Shodoor Sanders,
that Dion had asked Tom to kind of help Shadoor,
and then Tom's in a position to draft shoeddor Sanders
on a team that needed a quarterback or maybe develop
(23:45):
a quarterback, and they didn't. They passed over Shador, you know,
every single round there. It just seemed strange that Tom
knew Shador, He's in a position to draft Shedoor and
didn't pull the trigger on that.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Why Well, you know that goes back to the is
Tom all in or is Tom not all in? If
I recall Tom's comment after or didn't get drafted was
kind of like, you know, I'm not in charge of
that and so you know again, and that may be
true and well meaning, right Tom at the time might
have been like, hey, look, I'm not going to come
(24:21):
in and try to be the overlord of this organization.
I'm going to let John Spidek and Pete Carroll and
my football people do what they think is best. You know,
Now it seems to be more blatant. Mark Davis is
coming out and saying it, so you kind of have
to own it. But yeah, I think Dan, that goes
back to everything that we're talking about. Is Tom Brady
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actually all in? Is he running it? What message are
people inside the building getting about the power structure and
the vision and how it's playing out. So it's probably
a positive development that Mark Davis tried to spell it
out and that, you know, and that they have a
coach who they in serry can try to build something
(25:06):
with it. I love Pete Carroll. He's literally one of
the greatest coaches of his generation. I think he's a
Hall of Fame. So I don't want to in any
way say that hiring Pete Carroll, you know, was a negative,
but it kind of flew in the face of what
their situation was given his age and his desire to
win immediately, and it obviously didn't work.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Good stuff is always, Mike, good to talk to you.
Thanks for joining us. Thank you, dem That's Michael Silver.
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Pat McAfee yesterday.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
If he hello, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
No, we don't know. No, no, no, no, do.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
A little four play with me. You just spent a
week in Panama together. I got no love I did.
I did four play in Panama with you, you and
your lovely wife.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Hey, I haven't went to a church with you guys
in Panama for Fresh Wednesday. I'm a Jewish joy.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Well, we were going to dinner and it was ash
Wednesday and my wife was like, I gotta go get
my ashes, and all of a sudden we dragged Jay
into the church.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
No, no, no, I volunteer.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
No, I don't learn.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I want to learn.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
So we go in and then you know, I'm thinking
you're going to walk up and get your ashes and
I go, I don't think you should do that, Jay, I.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Don't think so.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
It doesn't matter how many different religion like you know,
temple's church, mosques I go to.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
There's not enough time to you know, atone for my sins. Yeah.
I didn't want to bother them with that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Okay, so great to see you, Jay, Funny.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Okay, feeling great, feeling feeling great.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I got my shoulder again this time, Man, I feel fantastic.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah. Well, really, how about you stop fighting people?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Why would I do that?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, I don't know. You're getting older and your body
is gonna I mean you.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Now, you're age shaming me.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
People always ask me like why do I still do
this stuff? I'd rather that kill me that I die
from not doing it, Like I gotta do it.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
I just it's the you know, always talking about I
need teams and teams, and for year between my ears,
these teams and I just, man, I love having those teams,
whether it's training players or I have a may guys.
My old guys were getting older now, so we're being
a little smarter with what we do in our heads.
But just trading players, you know, the guy I really
took on this year full time, if you will, was
Aj Barner, who did a great job obviously with Seattle.
(27:44):
But you don't find guys like that as much anymore.
Like players are different now than they used to be
when I was trained. You know so many guys in
the offseason, and you always tell these guys that being
famous ain't the same as being great. And a lot
of these guys is come in now because they're so famous,
they don't have a need to be great. They don't
put that same work in Aj did Aj Man. He
just even came out during the bye week for a
(28:04):
little two no, which guys normally don't do. But I
just I love to do if I can help make
somebody better, You know that that helps me again, hear him.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's why give me the current NFL player who you
think could be great in UFC oh Miles Garrett.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
I tried to brownse like a month my mouth put
his hands on me. That's that was terrible bad, That
was awful. About Mercedes Lewis, if he still qualifies here,
I've had him for about seventeen years. Mercedes throws kicks
and you know everything, He's like really a student of it.
I've always said, like, he's not current, but Kyle Long
(28:43):
was a He's you know, if I didn't ever wrestle
Kyle Long, I would be at least five to seven
and a half now. But I'm trying to think current
guys who just feel really violent. Yeah, there's not a
Oh Max Crawsby Max actually legitimate. He legitimately trains.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
By the way, see here is he's done with the Raiders.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
I don't see him going back, but you know it's
up to the Raiders. Yeah, they're the ones who hold
the cards in this right now.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
But he could, I guess he could retire and force
their hand.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Yeah he can. But you know, he loves football. He's
you know, it was interesting we when I talk about guys,
you know, want to be great and you know, trying
to be great instead famous. When he came out to
my gym to train, uh, he was like, I said,
we're starting five forty five, right, and I'm like five
forty five in the morning.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
He's like, yeah, that's what's time I started.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
I'm like, hey, dude, I'm I come at eleven okay,
I said, where we go to eleven?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Five forty five. He's like, well, I started five forty five,
and sure enough, five forty five every day goes in their.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
Trains and he does you know, prehab and you know,
stretching and mobility and speed and agility and lists, and
then we do the m MA and then after that
he does a little bit more strength to say, and
then more hips and then rehab and you know all
this treatment stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
And it was every day.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Man, it's like five point forty five in the morning
till like two or three. And that's where that's where
you look for Like all the guys that we were
friends with from back in the day, that's the only
way they got famous.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
To be great.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
The only way to be great back then is to
work the world. I tell I tell these guys the
blueprints for greatness. It's not hard find who the best
is and do more than them. Well, most people just
aren't willing to do it. I haven't asked him, how
many of your guys like do this?
Speaker 5 (30:31):
But he's like, oh, I.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Offer to everybody, but they don't. And that's like today's athlete,
that's not how they're wired. But all the great ones,
that's how they're wired, right, And it's it I just
never got it. I never understood if that's where you
have to do, just put in more work. You don't
necessarily have to be more talented. Why don't you? And
it's like if you if you have a full and
a fun career, you're retired thirty two, think about that,
(30:55):
Dan and people years thirty two, Right, it's young, go
out there and do whatever you want after that.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Thirty four it's young. I just never got it.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Do you think Micah Parsons wants to be famous more
than he wants to be great?
Speaker 8 (31:09):
No, I think it's but I think that's today's athlete.
I definitely think he wants to be great. But yeah,
I think without a doubt, like me, have podcasts and
you know, with your own teammates right about your your
team and stuff during the season, things like that.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Look, I was around Stray and who.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
Would be like the first of these guys and you
know he drove me back in New York City every
day when I was too broke to you know, be
able to pay for it subway and bus fare back
and forth. And football was always first, first, first by
a mile. He sit the other stuff in when it
when it was okay with it, but football was for
He did so much filmwork and so much work and
(31:50):
and like extra work, extra work, extra work, and everybody thought.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Of the other way. It was never the other way.
I don't think it's the other way from Mikey either,
but just seems so much bigger, could have all the
other stuff he does.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
All right, let's run down some of these situations. Aaron Rodgers,
Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.
Speaker 8 (32:09):
I don't think he's there yet here and I haven't
talked to him. I saw him on pat yesterday. I
haven't talked for for a while. You know, we trained
together the last offseason, so I don't know where his
mindset is. I do love what he said about Mike,
and he's brought like Mike is uh McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Is uh man.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
I told him at the combine, I said, for you
to coach the Packers, Cowboys and now the Steelers, your
home town team, and like his parents are right there
in front, like the front row, and he's like, I
couldn't get past like three words without crying, like he
grew up right around the corner. I said, so you
coached these three teams, Mike, I don't know who you
were in a previous life.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
But God has blessed you. I think you're like.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Jonas Sulk and Cure in Polio. Here's your reward. It's unbelievable.
But the fact that he appreciates Mike this much now
was really good to see. Because Mike is great.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
You get to remember.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
People forget it was so bad on Aaron when they decided, Okay,
we're not gonna and I was right there through all
this stuff with them when Farv kept retiring and unretired,
retire and unretired, retired and unretired, and finally at the
end they're like, hey, we're going with Aaron. There is
people picketing outside Lambo that they didn't want Aaron there,
(33:28):
this kid, this youngster, and for him to be able
to deal with this and.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Become the guy he became.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
That's why Jordan Love also has much stronger mental health,
and anybody gives them credit for he to be able
to deal with that to replace Aaron.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
But man, Aaron, they were picking their flying helicopters and
planes over and look at the year he had that
year and the career after that.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
And that's because Mike really is a He's great with
developing guys like that. But he do with him what
he do with Dak and whoever he's gonna be able
to develop over there in Pittsburgh. I don't know who
that is right now. I know they're like Will Howard,
but I don't know if that's their long term He's
not really he hasn't been around him enough to really
know that. But I think if Aaron wants to come
back and play another year, I'm sure they're welcome, welcome
(34:13):
with open arms. And I know Pittsburgh liked him a
lot they did.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
What about the organization?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
What about Kyler Murray? Where does he land? Where should
he land?
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Well?
Speaker 8 (34:22):
He and Tua should say, okay, I want to go
and try and learn from Kyle Shannhan, Carol O'Connell, Sean McVay,
Matt laflore, one of these guys, and Andy Reid and
Sean Bayton.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
But I don't see that there's not a lot of
quarterback developers.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
But you know, I was talking to you know, Kyle
Shannan this year and Kevin O'Connell kind of had the
same thing when we're talking about how you take these
guys and reprogram the mac Jones of the world.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Of Daniel Jones.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
And you know, I remember Shannan saying to me, for
these guys, you just got to get them.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
They're so beat up.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
You got to get them to play unafraid and if
you could start doing that, give him a cap. So
it's basically like, I want them play fast, but at
the same time, I want them to play fearless.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
That's what's fearless.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
If you get them to be fearless again, then they're
God given talent, which made them a top ten pick
starts coming back out, but they're so beat up they're
afraid to go do it. They're afraid of pull the trigger.
He said, that's the number one thing first. But also
like Lafloor, what do he did with Malik Willis with
his footwork phenomenal?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You know what a lot of these guys over do.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
With Kevin O'Connell, what he could do with those guys
technique wise, I would go and learn. So if I'm colored, though, yeah,
i'd go try and get with Kevin O'Connell, like I'm
if I'm a player, I would already be tampering. Here's
the other way around.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
We're talking to Jay Glazer NFL and Fox insider. The
market for Tua, I don't see.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
You know, there's options out there for people right now,
but same thing, I don't know if there's a I
don't think there's a huge market. And part of that
also is, you know, he's a hit away from here,
right so I think if you want to bring somebody in,
it's got to be almost like, hey, who who loves him?
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I don't. I haven't anybody say it yet to this point.
I think somebody will bring him in and take a flyer.
But I think Kyler will have a much bigger people go,
you know, after Coler more than they will.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
What about Atlanta for Tua?
Speaker 8 (36:23):
Yeah, what I'm saying, if I'm Atlanta, I'm looking at color.
You know, I think Coyler is you know, he jumps
out ahead of tour right now. And look, I can't
say a lot because I just haven't talked to like
Matt Ronnie and Cunningham and mister Fansky about to it.
But also to again, like, let's say everything works out,
he still you know, hadn't really protected himself much right
(36:46):
appear right when he you know, with concussion.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
So let's say things work out right, and all of
a sudden man.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
He takes a day in the week seven, then you're
back to square, won't So I think even if you
have to, you got to have somebody else in place there.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
What do you make of the Rams Chiefs trade? You
don't get too many blockbusters like this in early March.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (37:08):
I would actually with Sean McVay this weekend and he
was telling me about it, and he was like over
the moon, like over the moon about this, and you know,
they trade away a lot for him. But Charlotte is
always the type of guy. And you know what, I'm
surprised about you because he's always the type of guy, like,
you know, I'm going for now and I think more
and more and I was saying, it's surprisingly, I told
(37:30):
him this, surprising more people don't do what he does
because you know what.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
You're getting with the Trent mccuffey with these draft picks.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
Now, you know, you hear more and more complaints guys
of the combine, people not going on the combine, like
coaches anymore.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
So's like, we don't really know whe're getting these guys anymore.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
You can't really you know, your interviews, you can't pry
you get such a short period, and everybody's you know, programmed,
and I'm a fault for that too. I had a
bunch of kids this off season told him how to
you know, deal with the combine and how did you
just be honest with teams if you had off field
troubles and just other things, what they're gonna ask for
and everything in your life down He's about team team teams,
(38:08):
but because they're so programmed, you don't really know where
you're getting anymore. And kids don't go through adversities much anymore. Right,
you have a problem from the transfer. That's why, by
the way, Tennessee went right for cam Ward because they
told me even before the combine, that's our guy, because
he'd been through adversity, which we don't find too many
guys like that anymore. So I think, you know, if
(38:31):
you have a proven commodity in the NFL, I would
trade my picks also, And I'm surprised more teams don't
do it because the Rams are in it every single
year and it's a copycat league and nobody really does it.
They still have this old school thing of man, we
got to really reload through the draft. And I get it,
because if you hit then you have, you know, salary
cap relief there for.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
A few years at least. But Shaw was man, he
was so over the moon for this was he was
willing to go all in on this.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Do we know the time frame for Mahomes coming back?
Will is he expected to start the season.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
The rich the initial reports for you know, kind of
on the friends there. But I want to say, Patrick's different.
He's different. So he went down he immediately got the surgery,
flew himself down. I think he flew Provate down there,
got the surgery maybe the next day, which normally they
don't do because you want like the swelling. He got
a board really swelled up right. And so that was
(39:29):
on a Tuesday. I believe it was either Thursday or
Friday that week. He was already in the Chief's training
room Doria and he already had gotten his knee bending
at ninety degrees at that point, which he's just different.
He heals differently. There is a guy you know who
dislocated his knee, chap and his leg. He was turned
(39:51):
around during the game and he was like, hey, literally
he asked, they're training to Rick Burke hole the doctors
is it broken?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
No, okay? And taping up. What go back, like, we're
not taping up.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Your knee is facing that way, and they're like, He's like, no,
just tape it, let's go. And like you know, he
he had a dislocated toe going into a Super Bowl
and it fully dislocated and he never took any time
like he just finished finished out the game. His paying
threshold is different, his work ethics different. So well at
(40:22):
first they're like, oh, could you know start of the season.
I think I would probably had done him being well
sooner than that by far, because he just attacks things
man like like Aaron with his you know, his achilles.
And Joe Burrow it was different too. Joe Burrow came
back two months early. That's ridiculous from his injury. That
(40:44):
was that was ridiculous. That's probably one of the that's
one of the craziest things I've seen. I have a
Grade three turf toe and he's done. I come back,
you know as early as he did. I remember we were,
I was, I was in London last time we did
this show. Know, right at the trade deadline that day
he texted me He's come back. I'm like, come on, dude,
(41:07):
what do you you spend your time, Like, dude, edibles
this all season during your reab, there's no way. And
he's like, no, I'm coming back, and I'm coming back
way sooner than people think I'm talking, like in a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
I'm like, dude, there's no sure enough. You know, he's
just different.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
And I guessed right with Quinn Williams going to the
Cowboys that day you were on.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
Yes, let me tell you this. So it's trade. It's
trade deadline.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Dan and I are talking about our stem cell journey
together because on.
Speaker 8 (41:38):
I looked out on my phone and I'm texting and
he's like, what's going on trade? I said, yeah, it's
actually a team asking me about Quentinn Williams and uh,
you know, but they want like a blockbuster for him
and asking about Quinn Williams and he literally said is
the Cowboys? And it was the Cowboy Blase and I
kind of looked up, you know, kind of looked like
(41:59):
that joking a little bit, like oh my god. They're like,
are you you got? Are you you put a virus
of my phone down?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
And I'm an insider now I think I are. Yeah
you are.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, just don't don't ask OBJ he called me an outsider.
He did, yeah, I was right about something and he
I don't think he liked that I was correct about
something with him and he called me an outsider.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
He isn't now sensitive like that. I've had a lot.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
Look.
Speaker 8 (42:25):
I reported that he was getting traded uh from the
Giants to another team, and I got mercilessly destroyed by
everybody like just and people started going onto Instagram and
like fans, listen, I'm an inside my jobs to report
information that you don't know. You knew it, You've done
(42:46):
my job. So my job is to give you information
you don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
And we do it.
Speaker 8 (42:51):
Don't get mad in us, okay, or we won't do it.
And I put this out there. People started going onto
different people who I was training, and unbreakable celebrities and
some with drug issues and going on to them saying,
I hope you owe Deeve because you're stupid, you know,
trading partner, and saying Odell's getting traded like it was ridiculous.
(43:15):
Some of that for this Max Crosby won this off season,
people tell me how much I don't know, and attacking
Rosie and get after my wife and saying.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Some racial stuff and just like it's ridiculous.
Speaker 8 (43:27):
I got it for within Martindale two years ago, saying
they'd be gone from the Giants, and like Gian fans,
I've been covering this team since ninety three. If I
say something, instead of attacking me, you may want to
go call Draft Cans or Fanuel or something.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Maybe I don't want to be an insider.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
Yeah, I don't pull stuff out of my butt, and
but that's my job, is to come out of left
field and tell people things they don't know.
Speaker 8 (43:52):
And people get so upset. They got upset with the
Kevin O'Connell thing a couple of years ago that there
were teams looking at trade for him. There were four
teams that are trying to trade it. And then people
got upset that I reported on Sunday. And I'm like,
I don't work at Foxonville to work for Foxingville Sunday.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
It's the readers are being an insign man. But you
know what I am. You know what I hold.
Speaker 8 (44:13):
Sticks and stones thing you know don't break your bones,
but words will. I'm the opposite. Sticks and stones won't
do a thing to me.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
But what.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I said toitive great to see you, Thanks again a
man talk to you, so comments you dude?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
All right, that's Jay Glazier.
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