March 9, 2026 • 43 mins
College Football insider Ross Dellenger breaks down the college football NIL meeting at the White House and gives his thoughts on the future of college football. NFL front office insider Mike Tannenbaum weighs in on the Dolphins releasing Tua Tagovailoa, and he sees veteran quarterbacks like Kyler Murray and Geno Smith becoming sought-after bargains. Basketball Hall of Famer Reggie Miller praises Victor Wembanyama's winning mindset and looks back on Kobe using his own move against him in the NBA Finals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Uh, you know the college football, college basketball, the whole
conference that they had at the White House on Friday
and the president there. You had fifty esteemed individuals who
were there representing different different entities. You know, you have
former coaches, you have TV executives. I wanted to know
(00:27):
why not have a current coach and or current player
or players because you are talking about them. Ross Dellinger,
covering the event on Friday, Who's Sports senior college football reporter.
What was your biggest takeaway from this on Friday?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Ross, Dan, I noticed that you let out an exhaustive
sigh as you started to talk before you started talking
about this event, and I would say that plenty of
people in attendance probably had a similar sign after a
rap up.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You know, I think the goal.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Of this event, Dan, was to bring attention to the
issue by gathering all these important people, these dignitaries at
the White House in front of the President.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So I think there was a goal of number one, bringing.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Attention to the issue, and number two, by way of
bringing attention to it, maybe you put pressure on congressional
lawmakers to push something through a college sports bill through
the Congress, which is what the President wants. Has SETI
once and I think actually it accomplished goal one. It
(01:39):
certainly got people talking and had attention brought to it.
Whether we'll get a college sports bill from it, I'm
not sure. There's a fight in the Senate over a
bill and a fight in the House right now. And
there's a bill that probably could get to the floor
of the House to govern college athletics as soon as
next week, but I don't know that it'll pass. There's
(02:01):
confidence it'll pass the House, there's not confidence, as we
learned during the roundtable on Friday at the White House,
that it will pass the Senate. So still a lot
of hurdles. And of course, one of the things we've
found out that was a little bit of a surprise
Dan was the President saying he'll issue another executive order
to govern college athletics. Not sure what will be in that,
(02:24):
but he already issued one back in the summer, and
it hasn't changed much about anything, So I'm not sure
how this one will.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, and if I'm wrong, tell me. But an executive
order can't make a law, provide antitrust exemptions or override
state laws or policies in the executive order, they can
be challenged in court. So I don't know what's going
to come out of this, if anything, But were are
there any ideas? Any initiatives that were actually brought up
(02:56):
in this roundtable?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Not anything novel or groundbreaking.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
There was a good amount of time spent discussing the
score Act, the college sports bill that's in the House
that has twice failed to get to the floor because
they didn't have the votes, and again that I think
next week or maybe for the following week, we will
see that finally move. There was a lot of talk
about the score Act, and then there's a lot of
(03:27):
talk from the president specifically about the judicial system, which
you could tell he has sort of a vendetta against
because of rulings that have come against him the last
few months or so. So he he sort of blamed
college sports current situation on on judges.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And on their on their rulings.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Uh So, No, they get back to your question, not
a whole lot of novel concepts that that we learned. Uh,
just college sports folks sitting around with the president, uh,
complaining about judge in hoping for something to happen in congress.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Why not a current coach or current players.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, well, I mean I think a group of a
small group of media.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
We got a few questions and at the very end
and someone did ask the president why there wasn't a
current college athlete.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
On the panel.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
And he turned to Randa Levigne, who's the Yankees president
who actually put together, sort of put together the roundtable.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
And said that while there's no current.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Athlete now around this specific roundtable, that in the future,
as this group continues, there will be athlete voices sort
of joining in.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Apparently the group will continue, maybe not as big.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
They're going to break off into sort of like a
smaller subgroup I don't know, three, five, ten people to
continue working with the legislature. That's the thing, Dan, that
you read all that's accurate about the president in an
executive order, he can't do a whole lot there's not
a whole lot of power there need you need congressional actions.
(05:08):
So this small subgroup of the roundtable will work with
lawmakers to try to shape college sports legislation that you know,
grants conferences in the NCAA the power to enforce their
rules preempt these state in il laws and deems athletes
is not employees. That's sort of the three main things
(05:30):
they want to happen now for the casual fan, Dan,
part of what they want is an anti trust exemption
to enforce their rules around transfers in the cap, the
salary cap that we have now in college athletics, in
the movement just the movement of people transferring in eligibility standards.
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So that's how the casual fan might eventually see a
bill come to fruition. Is so much pressure from all
these eligibility cases that we've seen in the movement of
transfers in college athletics.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
What role does Nick Saban play?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Well, you know, I think he's he's got a pretty
big voice, number one, and for whatever reason, the president.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Wants him to play a very big role. He was
you know, there was.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
This commission or this roundtable that was put together with
something last springing almost a year ago that kind of
got out publicly, and the President wanted Nick Saban to
char it, and Nick actually didn't really didn't want to
be involved, and so somehow he got talked into being involved.
Now at this at this roundtable, he certainly got a
(06:46):
big voice and the President wants to be wants him involved.
And you know, if you listen to Nick Saban, you
know he's You've got a lot of good ideas. I
think he's he's got other ideas that some athlete rights
folks may disagree with as far as the restrictions imposed
on athletes. And that's the real argument here, Dan, and
(07:09):
that's why Congress can't get a bill through is because
you have most Republicans that are leaning toward the NCAA
sort of side and more restrictions on athletes and more
control for the NCAAA, and a democratic side wants more
control and freedom for athletes. But right now that control
(07:30):
and freedom is, as the college administrators might say, out
of control, right and so they.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Want some kind of rules and regulation.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
So you have this fight going on between Republican Democrats
that I don't see getting resolved anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
College football in better shape now or ten years.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Ago since.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Since the athletes are getting some kind of compensation Right
now from the multi billion dollar business that is college football,
you have to say it's in a better situation. But
I think the unregulation in the intense movement that we're
seeing among transfers and things like that in the situation
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with the inconsistent eligibility standard that it's it's not in
a place, it's not in the greatest place right that
it could be. So there's just a balance that has
to be struck on how many how much rule and regulation,
how much restriction do you put on athletes because they
you know, ten years ago, Dan, they had virtually none, right,
(08:42):
they had no, hardly any freedoms, and now maybe the
argument is they have too many freedoms and so we
don't have any rule of regulation.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
There's got to be sort of a balance there.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Usually you get to that balance by what the NFL
and all the pro leagues have done, Dan, which is
collective bargaining, but it's not to the evening college and
it has been a big topic of discussion.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
But it's not like you can push a button and
get there.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
The many administrators want to try to start taking steps down, down, down,
toward a collective bargaining agreement of some sort with major
college football and basketball players.
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thanks for joining us. Why not if you're the Dolphins,
keep Tua on the roster if you're paying.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Him, great question. I think, Dan, they're resetting things. It's
year one, Let's take the cap charges, Let's eat a
lot of the money this year. Some of it's gonna
go to next year and start fresh. I think it's
sending a message about culture and more about the future
than Hey, if we win six or seven games or
eight games this year, that doesn't matter. So I understand
(11:19):
why they were doing year one with a new head coach,
year one with a new GM.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Are the Dolphins gonna be tanking.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
I don't know if they're gonna be tanking, but I
think what's gonna be really interesting, Dan, if you and
I are having this conversation October and November, there'll be
a number of teams that are probably more interested in
fishing closer to the top of the draft than to
making the playoffs. And I don't know if they're going
to have a tanking problem the way the NBA does,
but without question, next year's draft is loaded with quarterbacks,
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and there's gonna be a number of teams that maybe
out of it in the middle of the season. It'll
be interesting to see how they can port themselves when
we get there.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But Tua, if he signs with the team, he still
gets his money from Miami.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
That's correct. There's three.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
There's three quarterbacks right now, Kyler, Murray, Gino Smith and
Tua that all have massive guarantees from their previous team.
All three of those quarterbacks will sign for about one
point three million dollars this year. So it's not necessarily
comparing apples to apples when you talk about Daniel Jones
or Kirk Cousins or Malik Willis with those other three,
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because a team is going to see one of those
three players as tremendous value.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
If you ran the Dolphins, what are you going to
do at quarterback position?
Speaker 8 (12:35):
I'm probably looking for a bridge quarterback and then looking
at next year's draft because it could be historically great. Look,
the season hasn't been played yet, We'll see how it goes,
but you know there's a chance for it to be
really good. So not just necessarily Miami Dan, but if
I felt like I was a year away or just
trying to establish myself. There's, you know, over ten new
(12:55):
head coaches. I'm sure a lot of teams are going
to have a very similar mindset.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Max Crosby, Raiders getting two first round picks from the Ravens.
Let me start with the Ravens because I wondered about
this last week. Why aren't more teams taking the approach
the Rams take, Like Buffalo getting Dj Moore. I mean,
I got to be all in because we know that
window of opportunity doesn't stay open very long. And the Rams,
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it feels like, for the last decade, have been all in.
We don't need our draft picks. We're going to get
people who can help us win or at least compete
for another Super Bowl. The Ravens went all in with
Max Crosby, Buffalo with Dj Moore, the Rams, you know,
getting McDuffie. Why don't more teams follow that blueprint?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (13:44):
I think it's very sound, And in particular, you were
asking about Crosby. You know, there's a couple of really
interesting things. First of all, he's only twenty nine, he's
incredibly productive, and he's exactly what you want for your
locker room. He's a force multiplier. He's going to make
everybody in that program better. The interesting thing, Dan, that
no one's really talked about is Jesse Mentor went from
(14:04):
this nice, young, ascending coach that will have, you know,
a reasonable breaking period to like there is no honeymoon.
Like the expectations for a rookie head coach have never
been higher. If Lamar's healthy, he's a two time MVP.
You have one of the two or three best pass
rushers in the league. You have Derek Henry rukwand Smith,
Kyle Hamilton, amongst others. Like this guy's honeymoon's about ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
If you ran the Raiders, what do you do? You
got more cap space than anybody. You got two first
round picks. We know what you're doing with one of them.
What would you be leaning towards if you were running
the team?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Three things?
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
I am Dan, I am drafting Mendoza, but I am
not playing him. I would have kept Gino Smith. And
here's why. If you go back last year, they gave
up more sacks than any team. You could look at
it from a few different metrics. Don't ruin it for
Nando Mendoza before or he's ready. I think he has
a chance on the upside, Dan to be Matt Ryan,
a taller guy, a good arm, a good athlete, not
(15:07):
a great athlete. He's going to need a firm pocket.
That's something that the Raiders have really struggled with. So
why are we going to rush to play him? I
would go out and get somebody else to start at
least half the year, and make sure that your offensive
line is settled before you do anything with Mendoza, because
you don't want to ruin his career before they have
a chance to be good.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'm right there with you. I've been using the Andrew
Luck analogy that you had this future Hall of Fame quarterback,
you just didn't have a very good offensive line, and
it eventually caught up to both the cold Den Andrew Luck.
Can you quietly shop the number one pick if you're
the Raiders?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Yeah, I'm not so sure they have it.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
You know, like just from teams be at Arizona or
the Jets could just say, hey, run into them at
the combine and say, look, we're not negotiating. Tell me
what the bill is, Tell me what the price is.
Is it three ones? Is a four ones? Chances are
teams are going to do that because I'm sure they're
looking at it at a multi year sort of view
of what we had talked about. When can think about
Dante Moore next year, arch Manning, Leonora, Sellers like on
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and on and on, they'll probably be I think five
or six first round quarterbacks if they play, you know,
reasonably well this year. So I think part of what's
going to hurt the Raiders from a leverage standpoint is
teams are going to look at next year and say,
we'll pay a premium, but we're not going to be unreasonable.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Who had a better week or ten days? Bills Ravens Rams.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I go with the Rams.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
If you and I were running the Chiefs and we
were just drafting the players on the Chiefs, Clearly Patrick
Mahomes is the best player. I'm not so sure that
Trent McDuffie is in two or three of their best players.
He can blitz, he can tackle, he could play man,
he could play zone, he could play slot, he could
play outside. He's very competitive. There's nothing he doesn't do
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exceptionally well. And if we look at the Rams and say, like,
what was outcome determinative? I would tell you like they're
a lack of play at corner. You know, Darius Williams,
Emmanuel Forbes. They didn't get the high level play. And
we're gonna have to at some point cover Jackson Smith
and Jigba Man to man. You know, we're gonna have
to be able to get off the field on third down.
They could do that today, they can do that a
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week ago, and I was surprised. Look, I know we've
seen Kansas City trade the Jerry Sneave. We seen him
trade Tyreek Hill. I put McDuffie in a different category.
I think he's a great young player, and I was
surprised that they traded him.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
He's Mike tan and baumb ESPN NFL Front Office insider.
What do you expect the rest of this week?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I think the quarterbacks are gonna be fascinating because I
think you put that bucket of three in one group again,
then that's Tua, Kyler Murray and Gino Smith. Those are
guys are all one year deals at a million three,
So like that's one bucket. I don't think anybody goes
after Daniel Jones because of the Durabilly issue, but let's
face it, Dan like the Colts are lit a little
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bit exposed. They took a six million dollar risk. The
transition tag was six million less than the franchise tag, understandably.
But now let's see what happens with him, and then
the other one's gonna be Malik Willis. Malik Willis was
somebody that hasn't played a lot but got a lot
better with Green Bay, and it's gonna be fascinating to
see where he signs.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
What about the Colts going after Kyler Murray.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
You know that's interesting, Dan. They like Riley Leonard, they
still have Anthony Richardson. Obviously, they like Daniel Jones. That's
why they transitioned him. Look, if you and I were
running a team, I would say, for one point three
million dollars, let's go hit Kyle Murray. His ceiling is
really high. He's only twenty nine years old. He's played
good football, not consistently, but he's put it on tape.
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And I'm always four. In a capped and constrained system,
when you could take calculated risks and get a player
that has a ability for incredibly on a three hundred
million dollar cap, you're essentially paying him nothing at one
point three million. There's very very little downside.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Aaron Rodgers is only going to have the Steelers as
a potential landing spot.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
I mean, I think Minnesota if things go to work
out with Murray, I mean, that's the only other team.
But you know, let's face it, Dan, he's gonna be
forty three in December. He's an all time great, one
of the best I ever played. But it's close to
the end and what you're worry about there, And I've
been around testa Verdi at the end, Farv at the end.
I work with Dan Marino like talking to him. It's
not their arm, Dan, it's their legs and their inability
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to protect themselves. And you know he's gonna be forty
three father times undefeated. And if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I
got to take a long, honest and sober view of
do I really need to do this one more year?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah? I just wonder about landing spots. Even Kirk Cousins,
does he look at TV and maybe commit to CBS,
but with the caveat or the asterisk of if somebody calls,
I might be leaving. Although I don't know if CBS
would do that. I think he had a pretty good
debut as an analyst here. But if you're going to
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replace Matt Ryan, you kind of want to know that
that guy's going to be there on Sunday when you're
doing your broadcast.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
Yeah, if I'm Kirk Cousins, like I got to be
close to the end as well. Like, you know, he's
a great dad by all accounts. You know, CBS seems
like a pretty good opportunity. You know, we'll see you know,
sometimes these guys are so competitive though, it's hard for
them to leave. And by the way, a quarterback is
going to look at Minnesota to say, I could be
coach by Kevin O'Connell. I have Justin Jefferson ugly the
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best receiver in the game, Jordan Das and TJ.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Hockinson. That's a pretty good place to be.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
How did did Minnesota miss on JJ McCarthy? Like it
feels like we haven't said the quiet thing out loud yet,
but it certainly feels like they realized they made a mistake.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Yeah, I'm not ready to go there yet. He started
ten games. I think we got to give him a
grade have in complete. He's incredibly young. I saw in
practice probably six times at Michigan. He has attributes you
can't see. He's a natural leader, he has poised about him,
and I think there's too much upside to give up
on him.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Now.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
With that said, if we could go get Kyler Murray
or Kirk Cousins, I'm gonna have a competition. But you know,
we've seen too many guys from Donald, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield,
you know, go to their third and fourth team until
you know, quote unquote, the light went on, and to me,
we gotta remember this, like, worst case scenario is not
JJ McCarthy not working out, it's him working out someplace else.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. But it feels like you're either good,
really good with your team or you know that you're
gonna get You're gonna be a backup quarterback and then
you're gonna get your chance again. It feels like there's
two buckets and quarterbacks. It's that guy's gonna bounce around
and be Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield or Gino Smith,
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or you are going to get that quarterback who is
going to be with your franchise from start to finish.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Yeah, how about that? Like I just tweeted this a
couple of months ago. This is a remarkable statistic. Kyler
Murray is the seventh consecutive quarterback drafted first overall that
wasn't on the team that drafted him by the age
of thirty. The last quarterback to be drafted first overall
and still be honest team at thirty was Matt Stafford,
and he was drafted going back to two thousand and nine.
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So it's really remarkable how hard it is to develop
a quarterback now Andrew Luck retired, but yeah, seven quarterbacks
in a row didn't make it to age of thirty.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You ever get in a shouting match with an agent?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Yeah, more times than I would care to admit.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Can you give me one? You don't have to give names,
but no, what how loud did it get?
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Oh? It got loud.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
There was one. It was so bad that I actually
not only did I call him to apologize, I wound
up hiring his son as an intern because I felt
so bad.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
We'll be watching. Thank you, Mike, great to talk to
you again.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
All right, appreciate you having me.
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Speaker 2 (23:23):
He was on the call for the Rockets and the
Spurs last night on NBC and Peacock. Reggie Miller back
with us also Coast to Coast on Tuesday, stays in
San Antonio the Celtics and the Spurs eight Eastern, also
on NBC and Peacock. We Wemby again. Wemby both ends
of the floor, inside and out. He shoots over eighty
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percent from the free throw line. I'm trying to figure
out what he doesn't do. At the ripe old age
of twenty two.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I think he's starting to figure it out. I think
what I've been most impressed with, especially this year, he
is embracing how teams are playing him because the knock
especially the first year, be physical with him, get up
under him, kind of move them around. And I think
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because of last year his season was short because of
the blood clots. We didn't get a huge sample size
of games. But I think he went back to the
lab this offseason. We saw all his travels with the
Monks and different places, trying to figure out the meaning
of life and the game of basketball to him. And
(24:34):
he's come back with a sense of purpose of matching
other teams physicality. Again, he's still not the biggest guys,
but he's embracing how these teams are playing them. And
if you just case in point, the last three games,
he went against the Detroit Pistons, a very physical team,
the La Clippers, who have a number of players who
(24:57):
like to play physical, and even last night with the
Houston Rockets, they have a starting lineup of six six sixt' seven, six'
nine and seven feet With Kevin, durant and they tried
to get up under, him they tried to be physical with.
Him he embraces that now and almost uses it against.
Them And you're, Right AND i was trying to, think
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AND i was trying to put myself in the shoes
of fans of players that it is an experience when
you watch them Play dan And i'm, thinking LIKE mj
was like that because you didn't know what you were
going to see WITH mj on the. COURT i Put
Stephen curry in that because of his ability to shoot the.
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Basketball to, me with, me is a musty experience because
you you truly do not know what you are going
to see and what you do see and. Witness it's,
LIKE i don't Think i've seen a human being do.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That but What i'm also seeing is somebody who. Cares
if you saw him in The All Star, game you
saw him in The, olympics even the comeback game against
The clippers where he got. Emotional he truly cares about
the outcome of the. Game AND i find that really,
rare and certainly at the age of you, KNOW i
(26:18):
brought up twenty, two isn't it?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Refreshing all? RIGHT i, mean you, know we get so
jaded nowadays because of some of these big contracts and load,
management guys not wanting to. Play here's a guy, who
again he'll listen to the trainers and the doctors for The,
spurs but he wants to be out there every, minute
(26:41):
and he wants to be out there. Competing AND i
just wonder if Our american born, players it's some of
the elite players are getting tired of the talk That
victor Windin yama saved The All Star, game which he.
Did he said the tone in that first, game how
(27:02):
hard he came out and, Played AND i, WONDER i
why Are american born players are looking at this saying
you know what that that should be, us that's how
we should be. Playing and you have This frenchman setting the.
Tone And i'm not the only one saying that he
saved The All Star, game but a lot of people
are saying that because of how he approached. It and
(27:24):
it's just refreshing to see that he competes so hard
in just his third season and he just sets a.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Precedence i'll give you anybody in the league for the
next five years who you.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Taking, OH i would take him because of what he
does at both ends of the.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Floor anybody Close.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Kate cunningham would be in. THERE i Think Cooper flag
will have his. Moments, Again cooper's only what in nineteen,
twenty but for the next five. Years right, now HE'S
thea and he's a very humble, kid but yet how
he approaches the, game he's very. Thoughtful he's very methodical
(28:10):
in terms of prep for a, game prep for his.
Body the only thing that will be a knock going
forward will be the injury. Part and right now he's
with the perfect organization because they basically emitted load management
back to the Great popovich And Keim, duncan momm And
Ginobi Tony parker. Days so he's with the perfect organization
(28:32):
in terms of saving his body going, forward and you know,
what protecting him for himself because he, again he wants
to be out there every minute competing at a high.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Level speaking of being out, There Jason tatum comes. Back
it's not like they eased him into the. Lineup he
was in the, lineup AND I i love watching this
team and Now tatum. BACK i think they're the team
to beat in The. EAST i.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
AGREE i agree with, him and especially with the recent
slide of The Detroit, PISTONS i think they've lost their last.
THREE i still Think detroit will win The. East BUT
i Think boston is in the perfect situation because now
you have a long runway For Jason tatum to get
into basketball, shape almost a month until the season is,
(29:20):
over and then the first first and second rounds that's
another two to three, weeks so it almost has two
full months to get in basketball. Shape this past game
On saturday In, cleveland he played twenty seven. Minutes this
is a guy that's been off for ten months with
(29:41):
an achilles, injury achilles, tear and he comes back and
he played twenty seven minutes on the. ROAD i thought
they were going to play him in even smaller, increments
but it just lets me know that he's been back
for a. While because for him to come back and
play at this level and play those, minutes impactful, minutes
it means he's been practicing and lifting and whatever else
(30:05):
he's been. Doing it's been absolutely. Remarkable and it's going
to be a fun game tomorrow because two great defensive
Teams boston The, spurs and it'll be interesting because he
will be, Tested, Him, Brown, pritchard they will all be
tested on the wings because The spurs play a very
physical style as well. Defensively this should be a very
(30:27):
fun and entertaining.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Game Michael jordan says he doesn't get involved in the goat.
Debate the latest interview That Mike treco did with. Him
you talked about it on the. Broadcast why Would mike
get involved in the goat Debate.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Because we're his. Minions that's our jobs to serve the, key.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Right, Yeah but he doesn't have to say. Anything he
doesn't just say a word and, right he just goes.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Scoreboard, Right that's that's our. Job our job look at
the scoreboard and go like this all he needs to
do is hold up this and that's, it this six FINALS. MVPs,
LOOK i HAVEN'T i didn't play against everyone that's ever.
PLAYED i never, played like he, said Against oscar And
Jerry west and all. That BUT i do know what
(31:14):
it does feel like to go against, Him Kobe lebron
for one, season AND i love all those. Guys it's
hard to he will never win if he interjects, himself
puts himself in that. Place, again that's our. Place that's our,
job yours and eyes because from you your eye, test
(31:36):
you've been around a long. Time you've seen a lot of.
BASKETBALL i played against a lot of great, players The,
magics The, larry's The, MICHAELS i played against them. All
SO i kind of get. It but, again that's not
our job to do. That it's and that's not his
job to do.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That, yeah you, know it's weird WHEN i get asked this,
question because, look you can build up a resume For
lebron and you go what he did to do it
for over twenty years and you know, consistent, see but
you See kobe and it's and it's weird HOW i
Think kobe got kind of Uh, OH i think we lost.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
You.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Reg, oh, yeah start bringing Up. Jordan here we. Go, Yeah,
todd we'll see if you can GET regi back on.
There i'm just glad That Mike. Tarico you, Know mike
hadn't been that busy the last you, know six. Weeks
i'm glad that he got to do something where All reg's. Back,
(32:39):
yeah got to sit down With jordan again for another.
Interview but you, Know kobe's the one, that, like If
i'm you and you, say, okay you got to Face
Lebron Mike kobe Like kobe Is. MIKE i mean It's
lebron's a, different different animal out, there but like style,
Wise kobe is Is mike because he himself AFTER.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
I, THINK i think we get caught up when we
talk about the goat situation and the go. Debate to,
me the best player of the three IS. Mj kobe
is a clone and a better, version like He's mike on,
steroids better jump. Shooter to, me the fundamentals were better
(33:27):
because he perfected them to be like the MASTER. Mj
if you're talking about, careers the best career out of
all three of, those in my opinion Is lebron because
of the longevity and what he has done eight straight.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Finals but you you you put emphasis on career and, rightfully,
yeah there's a.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Difference, SO i, Mean lebron has had the best career
out of anyone for him to continue to play like this
at this, level this late in his. Career but if
we're going stack for stack, player to, ME, Mj, kobe
(34:15):
and Then.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Lebron oh in that, order.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
To me in that order just Because, okay LOOK i
only had one year Versus. Lebron my last, year his rookie,
YEAR i got tattooed BY. MJ i got tattooed By
kobe at a high, level you, know Facing kobe in the.
Finals so there's a body of work Between kobe AND
i THAT i can you, KNOW i have a sample size.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Against it's it's interesting WHEN i watch defenders on guys
who were supposed to score and how you don't let
it affect. You BUT i don't know how you, Don't
like if you're Guarding kobe on the wing and everybody's, watching,
yeah and all of a sudden he blows by you
and you know, Dunks, like how do you not take? That? Personally?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Well you never wanted to show emotions when you were
playing those two, guys AND i tried as much as
possible not to BECAUSE i tried to put pressure on
them at the other end as, well Because i'm blowing
by them as. Well you, KNOW I i tried to put
as much pressure and make them work as hard as
they possibly were making me, work to try to tire them.
(35:28):
Out both of those, Players Kobe, mike they were superior
athletes in fantastic, shape which is very difficult to. Do,
so you, KNOW i heard you earlier talking about THE
La marathon and you know run in the twenty six
miles and all. THAT i tried to make it a
marathon versus those guys and make it a track meet
and constantly keep them in motion to try and tire them.
(35:50):
Down some games it, worked other games it. Didn't but
that's WHAT i tried to do versus those two.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Players talking To Reggie, miller he was on the call
For Rocket spurs last. Night he'll be staying In San,
Antonio Celtic. Spurs that's tomorrow, night eight eastern ON nbc And.
Peacock what do you make of THIS La? Marathon if
you run eighteen, miles you get the same metal as
those who completed The New york or the deal with
the participation.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Trophies come, on, now now.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
They talked about they talked about the, heat and BUT
i can't give you the same, metal the same exact.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Medal is it the exact same?
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Medal, yes come, on that can't happen, Then really the
marathon was eighteen miles in that twenty six, correct, Baby,
yeah can't do. That well we're giving out participation medals
or just going eighteen?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Miles?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
No, yeah but you got you got kids they probably
get participation trophies.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
And dry in absolutely Mad. THEODORE i mean it, does
because what are we teaching these. Kids that's not how life.
Works right in the business, world it. Does don't. Work
you do not get a participation trophy for coming in
(37:17):
second or. Third work, hard go back to the, lab
get in the, gym go outside and start. Shooting, hey
get on the field and stop working on your. Fielding
learn how to catch the.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Football did you get anything for finishing runner up in
THE Nba? Finals?
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Yeah you know WHAT i. Got that's a, bat that's. It,
yeah that's all we. Got.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Kobe kobe gave you a pat on the back and, said,
Yeah i'm a. Chance why are you torturing me right?
Now you KNOW i DIDN'T i didn't know who gave
you the pad on the? Back did you give yourself a?
Pad check gave me a Get?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah you gotta play hard.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Rich.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Rick they. Couldn't they couldn't go to Big. Dithel that
was the. PROBLEM i was, Like, okay you're, right big.
Fella you're, right big.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Fella if you had to pick, that you're gonna get
bounced in the second round of the postseason or you're
going to lose in THE nba.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Finals i'll always take the finals because anything can happen
once you get. There but it trusts. Me it beatings much.
More it stings much more because you say to, yourself
where CAN i win four? Games when you get to the,
finals that's what you, Say i've got to win four.
(38:43):
Games and then when we went down two to oh
going back home and we won game, Three we're, like
we Are you're you're saying three. Wins you would do
anything to win three, games and, Yeah so that's how
desperate you, get and that that's the thinking you have to.
Have AND i know people ought to be politically, correct
(39:04):
but you are counting down to sixteen. Wins once you
get to THE nba, playoffs and once you get to the,
finals you just, say how CAN i win four games
before that other?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Team would you give up part of your pinky finger
on your left? Hand?
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Friend? Yip?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah people?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Understand? Man when, yeah DID i say on my left?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Hand?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah OH i still.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Contributed, YEAH i can hold the. Ball, yeah give it the,
ball give it the.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Ball nine and a half fingers, Miller.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Yeah just just give me the. Ball people are, yes,
YES i. Would it wouldn't stink to. Me the reason
WHY i feel this way, people AND i want to
explain this to him IF i had ever been so
close for so many, years so many conference finals versus
The Knicks, philly when you're that, close when it's eight
(40:08):
down to four and then losing to The lakers in the,
finals needing four. Wins when you're that close and you
can taste it and see the finish, line but you
can't get to the finish. Line that's WHY i feel this.
Way the. Stinks IF i had been like first second
round and always you know going, OUT i had was
never close to the finish, line so who? Cares but
(40:29):
when you're close and you can see the FINISH i
felt like That kenyan runner that was in first place
and The american runner was. Running that's how you feel
when you get to the. Finals CAN i get to
that finish line?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
First marvin last week said if he was The Buffalo,
bills he'd rather not get to the Super bowl and.
Lose he'd rather lose earlier in the. PLAYOFFS i want.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
To be on the biggest, Stage, marvin because you want
To you want the world. Scene you want to compete
at the highest level against the best. Players and if
that's The World, series the Super, bowl THE Nba, finals
The Stanley, cup The, olympics for some of these runners
and track, athletes you want to compete against the. Best
(41:21):
and that that year we went to the finals With
Larry legend as our. Coach we felt we were the
best team in The. East we knew The lakers were
the best team in The. West we wanted that smoke
and we knew it was going to be an uphill,
battle but they hadn't won in a long, time so
both of us were coming. IN i, mean we knew
they had the, pedigree they were The, lakers but The
(41:43):
lakers hadn't won yet that was their first championship and
we had never, won so we felt we were on equal.
Footing so that's why we felt we had we had a.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Shot AND i like That kobe stole your, move your
step back. Jumped we had filmed.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
A Real Real world, episode he AND. I we took
on The Real world cast in a game of two
on eight and before we started, filming before the other
crew showed, up we played one on One kobe AND
i And, hey show me, this show me this. Move you.
(42:24):
Know he was, like picking my. BRAIN i love how
you do. This you, KNOW i saw you do this AGAINST.
Mj AND i was, like being a big, Brother, hey, yeah,
yeah this is WHAT i. Did you do the step,
back be sure you create. Space and when he when
he closes one more dribble and then You're he's, like,
OKAY i got. It that fool was writing it down
(42:46):
and using those moves against me in the. Finals i'm,
like ain't this, Something ain't this? Something smart? Dude Smart
Kobe Rest God, REST i know you were looking down
on this interview right, now smiling and, Yeah, RANCH i got.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
You thank, you reg have fun Guard.
Speaker 6 (43:07):
Theaedore much love to my DAD Ds. Marvin next, year
you AND, i let's sign up for THE La, marathon,
baby and let's go eighteen miles so we can get
Our Particiapaci. MEDAL i, mean.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Let's. Go Reggie. Miller he'll be on the Call coach
To Coast, Tuesday San Antonio celtics and The Spurs City
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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Uh, you know the college football, college basketball, the whole
conference that they had at the White House on Friday
and the president there. You had fifty esteemed individuals who
were there representing different different entities. You know, you have
former coaches, you have TV executives. I wanted to know
(00:27):
why not have a current coach and or current player
or players because you are talking about them. Ross Dellinger,
covering the event on Friday, Who's Sports senior college football reporter.
What was your biggest takeaway from this on Friday?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Ross, Dan, I noticed that you let out an exhaustive
sigh as you started to talk before you started talking
about this event, and I would say that plenty of
people in attendance probably had a similar sign after a
rap up.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You know, I think the goal.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Of this event, Dan, was to bring attention to the
issue by gathering all these important people, these dignitaries at
the White House in front of the President.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So I think there was a goal of number one, bringing.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Attention to the issue, and number two, by way of
bringing attention to it, maybe you put pressure on congressional
lawmakers to push something through a college sports bill through
the Congress, which is what the President wants. Has SETI
once and I think actually it accomplished goal one. It
(01:39):
certainly got people talking and had attention brought to it.
Whether we'll get a college sports bill from it, I'm
not sure. There's a fight in the Senate over a
bill and a fight in the House right now. And
there's a bill that probably could get to the floor
of the House to govern college athletics as soon as
next week, but I don't know that it'll pass. There's
(02:01):
confidence it'll pass the House, there's not confidence, as we
learned during the roundtable on Friday at the White House,
that it will pass the Senate. So still a lot
of hurdles. And of course, one of the things we've
found out that was a little bit of a surprise
Dan was the President saying he'll issue another executive order
to govern college athletics. Not sure what will be in that,
(02:24):
but he already issued one back in the summer, and
it hasn't changed much about anything, So I'm not sure
how this one will.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, and if I'm wrong, tell me. But an executive
order can't make a law, provide antitrust exemptions or override
state laws or policies in the executive order, they can
be challenged in court. So I don't know what's going
to come out of this, if anything, But were are
there any ideas? Any initiatives that were actually brought up
(02:56):
in this roundtable?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Not anything novel or groundbreaking.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
There was a good amount of time spent discussing the
score Act, the college sports bill that's in the House
that has twice failed to get to the floor because
they didn't have the votes, and again that I think
next week or maybe for the following week, we will
see that finally move. There was a lot of talk
about the score Act, and then there's a lot of
(03:27):
talk from the president specifically about the judicial system, which
you could tell he has sort of a vendetta against
because of rulings that have come against him the last
few months or so. So he he sort of blamed
college sports current situation on on judges.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And on their on their rulings.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Uh So, No, they get back to your question, not
a whole lot of novel concepts that that we learned. Uh,
just college sports folks sitting around with the president, uh,
complaining about judge in hoping for something to happen in congress.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Why not a current coach or current players.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, well, I mean I think a group of a
small group of media.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
We got a few questions and at the very end
and someone did ask the president why there wasn't a
current college athlete.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
On the panel.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
And he turned to Randa Levigne, who's the Yankees president
who actually put together, sort of put together the roundtable.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
And said that while there's no current.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Athlete now around this specific roundtable, that in the future,
as this group continues, there will be athlete voices sort
of joining in.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Apparently the group will continue, maybe not as big.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
They're going to break off into sort of like a
smaller subgroup I don't know, three, five, ten people to
continue working with the legislature. That's the thing, Dan, that
you read all that's accurate about the president in an
executive order, he can't do a whole lot there's not
a whole lot of power there need you need congressional actions.
(05:08):
So this small subgroup of the roundtable will work with
lawmakers to try to shape college sports legislation that you know,
grants conferences in the NCAA the power to enforce their
rules preempt these state in il laws and deems athletes
is not employees. That's sort of the three main things
(05:30):
they want to happen now for the casual fan, Dan,
part of what they want is an anti trust exemption
to enforce their rules around transfers in the cap, the
salary cap that we have now in college athletics, in
the movement just the movement of people transferring in eligibility standards.
(05:51):
So that's how the casual fan might eventually see a
bill come to fruition. Is so much pressure from all
these eligibility cases that we've seen in the movement of
transfers in college athletics.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
What role does Nick Saban play?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Well, you know, I think he's he's got a pretty
big voice, number one, and for whatever reason, the president.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Wants him to play a very big role. He was
you know, there was.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
This commission or this roundtable that was put together with
something last springing almost a year ago that kind of
got out publicly, and the President wanted Nick Saban to
char it, and Nick actually didn't really didn't want to
be involved, and so somehow he got talked into being involved.
Now at this at this roundtable, he certainly got a
(06:46):
big voice and the President wants to be wants him involved.
And you know, if you listen to Nick Saban, you
know he's You've got a lot of good ideas. I
think he's he's got other ideas that some athlete rights
folks may disagree with as far as the restrictions imposed
on athletes. And that's the real argument here, Dan, and
(07:09):
that's why Congress can't get a bill through is because
you have most Republicans that are leaning toward the NCAA
sort of side and more restrictions on athletes and more
control for the NCAAA, and a democratic side wants more
control and freedom for athletes. But right now that control
(07:30):
and freedom is, as the college administrators might say, out
of control, right and so they.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Want some kind of rules and regulation.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
So you have this fight going on between Republican Democrats
that I don't see getting resolved anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
College football in better shape now or ten years.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Ago since.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Since the athletes are getting some kind of compensation Right
now from the multi billion dollar business that is college football,
you have to say it's in a better situation. But
I think the unregulation in the intense movement that we're
seeing among transfers and things like that in the situation
(08:19):
with the inconsistent eligibility standard that it's it's not in
a place, it's not in the greatest place right that
it could be. So there's just a balance that has
to be struck on how many how much rule and regulation,
how much restriction do you put on athletes because they
you know, ten years ago, Dan, they had virtually none, right,
(08:42):
they had no, hardly any freedoms, and now maybe the
argument is they have too many freedoms and so we
don't have any rule of regulation.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
There's got to be sort of a balance there.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Usually you get to that balance by what the NFL
and all the pro leagues have done, Dan, which is
collective bargaining, but it's not to the evening college and
it has been a big topic of discussion.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
But it's not like you can push a button and
get there.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
The many administrators want to try to start taking steps down, down, down,
toward a collective bargaining agreement of some sort with major
college football and basketball players.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Thank you, Ross, YEP, gonna be on Ross Dellinger Yahoo
Sports senior college football reporter.
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thanks for joining us. Why not if you're the Dolphins,
keep Tua on the roster if you're paying.
Speaker 8 (10:58):
Him, great question. I think, Dan, they're resetting things. It's
year one, Let's take the cap charges, Let's eat a
lot of the money this year. Some of it's gonna
go to next year and start fresh. I think it's
sending a message about culture and more about the future
than Hey, if we win six or seven games or
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(11:19):
why they were doing year one with a new head coach,
year one with a new GM.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Are the Dolphins gonna be tanking.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
I don't know if they're gonna be tanking, but I
think what's gonna be really interesting, Dan, if you and
I are having this conversation October and November, there'll be
a number of teams that are probably more interested in
fishing closer to the top of the draft than to
making the playoffs. And I don't know if they're going
to have a tanking problem the way the NBA does,
but without question, next year's draft is loaded with quarterbacks,
(11:49):
and there's gonna be a number of teams that maybe
out of it in the middle of the season. It'll
be interesting to see how they can port themselves when
we get there.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But Tua, if he signs with the team, he still
gets his money from Miami.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
That's correct. There's three.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
There's three quarterbacks right now, Kyler, Murray, Gino Smith and
Tua that all have massive guarantees from their previous team.
All three of those quarterbacks will sign for about one
point three million dollars this year. So it's not necessarily
comparing apples to apples when you talk about Daniel Jones
or Kirk Cousins or Malik Willis with those other three,
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because a team is going to see one of those
three players as tremendous value.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
If you ran the Dolphins, what are you going to
do at quarterback position?
Speaker 8 (12:35):
I'm probably looking for a bridge quarterback and then looking
at next year's draft because it could be historically great. Look,
the season hasn't been played yet, We'll see how it goes,
but you know there's a chance for it to be
really good. So not just necessarily Miami Dan, but if
I felt like I was a year away or just
trying to establish myself. There's, you know, over ten new
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head coaches. I'm sure a lot of teams are going
to have a very similar mindset.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Max Crosby, Raiders getting two first round picks from the Ravens.
Let me start with the Ravens because I wondered about
this last week. Why aren't more teams taking the approach
the Rams take, Like Buffalo getting Dj Moore. I mean,
I got to be all in because we know that
window of opportunity doesn't stay open very long. And the Rams,
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it feels like, for the last decade, have been all in.
We don't need our draft picks. We're going to get
people who can help us win or at least compete
for another Super Bowl. The Ravens went all in with
Max Crosby, Buffalo with Dj Moore, the Rams, you know,
getting McDuffie. Why don't more teams follow that blueprint?
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (13:44):
I think it's very sound, And in particular, you were
asking about Crosby. You know, there's a couple of really
interesting things. First of all, he's only twenty nine, he's
incredibly productive, and he's exactly what you want for your
locker room. He's a force multiplier. He's going to make
everybody in that program better. The interesting thing, Dan, that
no one's really talked about is Jesse Mentor went from
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this nice, young, ascending coach that will have, you know,
a reasonable breaking period to like there is no honeymoon.
Like the expectations for a rookie head coach have never
been higher. If Lamar's healthy, he's a two time MVP.
You have one of the two or three best pass
rushers in the league. You have Derek Henry rukwand Smith,
Kyle Hamilton, amongst others. Like this guy's honeymoon's about ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
If you ran the Raiders, what do you do? You
got more cap space than anybody. You got two first
round picks. We know what you're doing with one of them.
What would you be leaning towards if you were running
the team?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Three things?
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
I am Dan, I am drafting Mendoza, but I am
not playing him. I would have kept Gino Smith. And
here's why. If you go back last year, they gave
up more sacks than any team. You could look at
it from a few different metrics. Don't ruin it for
Nando Mendoza before or he's ready. I think he has
a chance on the upside, Dan to be Matt Ryan,
a taller guy, a good arm, a good athlete, not
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a great athlete. He's going to need a firm pocket.
That's something that the Raiders have really struggled with. So
why are we going to rush to play him? I
would go out and get somebody else to start at
least half the year, and make sure that your offensive
line is settled before you do anything with Mendoza, because
you don't want to ruin his career before they have
a chance to be good.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'm right there with you. I've been using the Andrew
Luck analogy that you had this future Hall of Fame quarterback,
you just didn't have a very good offensive line, and
it eventually caught up to both the cold Den Andrew Luck.
Can you quietly shop the number one pick if you're
the Raiders?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Yeah, I'm not so sure they have it.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
You know, like just from teams be at Arizona or
the Jets could just say, hey, run into them at
the combine and say, look, we're not negotiating. Tell me
what the bill is, Tell me what the price is.
Is it three ones? Is a four ones? Chances are
teams are going to do that because I'm sure they're
looking at it at a multi year sort of view
of what we had talked about. When can think about
Dante Moore next year, arch Manning, Leonora, Sellers like on
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and on and on, they'll probably be I think five
or six first round quarterbacks if they play, you know,
reasonably well this year. So I think part of what's
going to hurt the Raiders from a leverage standpoint is
teams are going to look at next year and say,
we'll pay a premium, but we're not going to be unreasonable.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Who had a better week or ten days? Bills Ravens Rams.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I go with the Rams.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
If you and I were running the Chiefs and we
were just drafting the players on the Chiefs, Clearly Patrick
Mahomes is the best player. I'm not so sure that
Trent McDuffie is in two or three of their best players.
He can blitz, he can tackle, he could play man,
he could play zone, he could play slot, he could
play outside. He's very competitive. There's nothing he doesn't do
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exceptionally well. And if we look at the Rams and say, like,
what was outcome determinative? I would tell you like they're
a lack of play at corner. You know, Darius Williams,
Emmanuel Forbes. They didn't get the high level play. And
we're gonna have to at some point cover Jackson Smith
and Jigba Man to man. You know, we're gonna have
to be able to get off the field on third down.
They could do that today, they can do that a
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week ago, and I was surprised. Look, I know we've
seen Kansas City trade the Jerry Sneave. We seen him
trade Tyreek Hill. I put McDuffie in a different category.
I think he's a great young player, and I was
surprised that they traded him.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
He's Mike tan and baumb ESPN NFL Front Office insider.
What do you expect the rest of this week?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
I think the quarterbacks are gonna be fascinating because I
think you put that bucket of three in one group again,
then that's Tua, Kyler Murray and Gino Smith. Those are
guys are all one year deals at a million three,
So like that's one bucket. I don't think anybody goes
after Daniel Jones because of the Durabilly issue, but let's
face it, Dan like the Colts are lit a little
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bit exposed. They took a six million dollar risk. The
transition tag was six million less than the franchise tag, understandably.
But now let's see what happens with him, and then
the other one's gonna be Malik Willis. Malik Willis was
somebody that hasn't played a lot but got a lot
better with Green Bay, and it's gonna be fascinating to
see where he signs.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
What about the Colts going after Kyler Murray.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
You know that's interesting, Dan. They like Riley Leonard, they
still have Anthony Richardson. Obviously, they like Daniel Jones. That's
why they transitioned him. Look, if you and I were
running a team, I would say, for one point three
million dollars, let's go hit Kyle Murray. His ceiling is
really high. He's only twenty nine years old. He's played
good football, not consistently, but he's put it on tape.
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And I'm always four. In a capped and constrained system,
when you could take calculated risks and get a player
that has a ability for incredibly on a three hundred
million dollar cap, you're essentially paying him nothing at one
point three million. There's very very little downside.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Aaron Rodgers is only going to have the Steelers as
a potential landing spot.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
I mean, I think Minnesota if things go to work
out with Murray, I mean, that's the only other team.
But you know, let's face it, Dan, he's gonna be
forty three in December. He's an all time great, one
of the best I ever played. But it's close to
the end and what you're worry about there, And I've
been around testa Verdi at the end, Farv at the end.
I work with Dan Marino like talking to him. It's
not their arm, Dan, it's their legs and their inability
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to protect themselves. And you know he's gonna be forty
three father times undefeated. And if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I
got to take a long, honest and sober view of
do I really need to do this one more year?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah? I just wonder about landing spots. Even Kirk Cousins,
does he look at TV and maybe commit to CBS,
but with the caveat or the asterisk of if somebody calls,
I might be leaving. Although I don't know if CBS
would do that. I think he had a pretty good
debut as an analyst here. But if you're going to
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replace Matt Ryan, you kind of want to know that
that guy's going to be there on Sunday when you're
doing your broadcast.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
Yeah, if I'm Kirk Cousins, like I got to be
close to the end as well. Like, you know, he's
a great dad by all accounts. You know, CBS seems
like a pretty good opportunity. You know, we'll see you know,
sometimes these guys are so competitive though, it's hard for
them to leave. And by the way, a quarterback is
going to look at Minnesota to say, I could be
coach by Kevin O'Connell. I have Justin Jefferson ugly the
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best receiver in the game, Jordan Das and TJ.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Hockinson. That's a pretty good place to be.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
How did did Minnesota miss on JJ McCarthy? Like it
feels like we haven't said the quiet thing out loud yet,
but it certainly feels like they realized they made a mistake.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Yeah, I'm not ready to go there yet. He started
ten games. I think we got to give him a
grade have in complete. He's incredibly young. I saw in
practice probably six times at Michigan. He has attributes you
can't see. He's a natural leader, he has poised about him,
and I think there's too much upside to give up
on him.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Now.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
With that said, if we could go get Kyler Murray
or Kirk Cousins, I'm gonna have a competition. But you know,
we've seen too many guys from Donald, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield,
you know, go to their third and fourth team until
you know, quote unquote, the light went on, and to me,
we gotta remember this, like, worst case scenario is not
JJ McCarthy not working out, it's him working out someplace else.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. But it feels like you're either good,
really good with your team or you know that you're
gonna get You're gonna be a backup quarterback and then
you're gonna get your chance again. It feels like there's
two buckets and quarterbacks. It's that guy's gonna bounce around
and be Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield or Gino Smith,
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or you are going to get that quarterback who is
going to be with your franchise from start to finish.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
Yeah, how about that? Like I just tweeted this a
couple of months ago. This is a remarkable statistic. Kyler
Murray is the seventh consecutive quarterback drafted first overall that
wasn't on the team that drafted him by the age
of thirty. The last quarterback to be drafted first overall
and still be honest team at thirty was Matt Stafford,
and he was drafted going back to two thousand and nine.
(22:23):
So it's really remarkable how hard it is to develop
a quarterback now Andrew Luck retired, but yeah, seven quarterbacks
in a row didn't make it to age of thirty.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You ever get in a shouting match with an agent?
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Yeah, more times than I would care to admit.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Can you give me one? You don't have to give names,
but no, what how loud did it get?
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Oh? It got loud.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
There was one. It was so bad that I actually
not only did I call him to apologize, I wound
up hiring his son as an intern because I felt
so bad.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
We'll be watching. Thank you, Mike, great to talk to
you again.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
All right, appreciate you having me.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
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Speaker 2 (23:23):
He was on the call for the Rockets and the
Spurs last night on NBC and Peacock. Reggie Miller back
with us also Coast to Coast on Tuesday, stays in
San Antonio the Celtics and the Spurs eight Eastern, also
on NBC and Peacock. We Wemby again. Wemby both ends
of the floor, inside and out. He shoots over eighty
(23:46):
percent from the free throw line. I'm trying to figure
out what he doesn't do. At the ripe old age
of twenty two.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
I think he's starting to figure it out. I think
what I've been most impressed with, especially this year, he
is embracing how teams are playing him because the knock
especially the first year, be physical with him, get up
under him, kind of move them around. And I think
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because of last year his season was short because of
the blood clots. We didn't get a huge sample size
of games. But I think he went back to the
lab this offseason. We saw all his travels with the
Monks and different places, trying to figure out the meaning
of life and the game of basketball to him. And
(24:34):
he's come back with a sense of purpose of matching
other teams physicality. Again, he's still not the biggest guys,
but he's embracing how these teams are playing them. And
if you just case in point, the last three games,
he went against the Detroit Pistons, a very physical team,
the La Clippers, who have a number of players who
(24:57):
like to play physical, and even last night with the
Houston Rockets, they have a starting lineup of six six sixt' seven, six'
nine and seven feet With Kevin, durant and they tried
to get up under, him they tried to be physical with.
Him he embraces that now and almost uses it against.
Them And you're, Right AND i was trying to, think
(25:20):
AND i was trying to put myself in the shoes
of fans of players that it is an experience when
you watch them Play dan And i'm, thinking LIKE mj
was like that because you didn't know what you were
going to see WITH mj on the. COURT i Put
Stephen curry in that because of his ability to shoot the.
(25:41):
Basketball to, me with, me is a musty experience because
you you truly do not know what you are going
to see and what you do see and. Witness it's,
LIKE i don't Think i've seen a human being do.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
That but What i'm also seeing is somebody who. Cares
if you saw him in The All Star, game you
saw him in The, olympics even the comeback game against
The clippers where he got. Emotional he truly cares about
the outcome of the. Game AND i find that really,
rare and certainly at the age of you, KNOW i
(26:18):
brought up twenty, two isn't it?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Refreshing all? RIGHT i, mean you, know we get so
jaded nowadays because of some of these big contracts and load,
management guys not wanting to. Play here's a guy, who
again he'll listen to the trainers and the doctors for The,
spurs but he wants to be out there every, minute
(26:41):
and he wants to be out there. Competing AND i
just wonder if Our american born, players it's some of
the elite players are getting tired of the talk That
victor Windin yama saved The All Star, game which he.
Did he said the tone in that first, game how
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hard he came out and, Played AND i, WONDER i
why Are american born players are looking at this saying
you know what that that should be, us that's how
we should be. Playing and you have This frenchman setting the.
Tone And i'm not the only one saying that he
saved The All Star, game but a lot of people
are saying that because of how he approached. It and
(27:24):
it's just refreshing to see that he competes so hard
in just his third season and he just sets a.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Precedence i'll give you anybody in the league for the
next five years who you.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Taking, OH i would take him because of what he
does at both ends of the.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Floor anybody Close.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Kate cunningham would be in. THERE i Think Cooper flag
will have his. Moments, Again cooper's only what in nineteen,
twenty but for the next five. Years right, now HE'S
thea and he's a very humble, kid but yet how
he approaches the, game he's very. Thoughtful he's very methodical
(28:10):
in terms of prep for a, game prep for his.
Body the only thing that will be a knock going
forward will be the injury. Part and right now he's
with the perfect organization because they basically emitted load management
back to the Great popovich And Keim, duncan momm And
Ginobi Tony parker. Days so he's with the perfect organization
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in terms of saving his body going, forward and you know,
what protecting him for himself because he, again he wants
to be out there every minute competing at a high.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Level speaking of being out, There Jason tatum comes. Back
it's not like they eased him into the. Lineup he
was in the, lineup AND I i love watching this
team and Now tatum. BACK i think they're the team
to beat in The. EAST i.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
AGREE i agree with, him and especially with the recent
slide of The Detroit, PISTONS i think they've lost their last.
THREE i still Think detroit will win The. East BUT
i Think boston is in the perfect situation because now
you have a long runway For Jason tatum to get
into basketball, shape almost a month until the season is,
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over and then the first first and second rounds that's
another two to three, weeks so it almost has two
full months to get in basketball. Shape this past game
On saturday In, cleveland he played twenty seven. Minutes this
is a guy that's been off for ten months with
(29:41):
an achilles, injury achilles, tear and he comes back and
he played twenty seven minutes on the. ROAD i thought
they were going to play him in even smaller, increments
but it just lets me know that he's been back
for a. While because for him to come back and
play at this level and play those, minutes impactful, minutes
it means he's been practicing and lifting and whatever else
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he's been. Doing it's been absolutely. Remarkable and it's going
to be a fun game tomorrow because two great defensive
Teams boston The, spurs and it'll be interesting because he
will be, Tested, Him, Brown, pritchard they will all be
tested on the wings because The spurs play a very
physical style as well. Defensively this should be a very
(30:27):
fun and entertaining.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Game Michael jordan says he doesn't get involved in the goat.
Debate the latest interview That Mike treco did with. Him
you talked about it on the. Broadcast why Would mike
get involved in the goat Debate.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Because we're his. Minions that's our jobs to serve the, key.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Right, Yeah but he doesn't have to say. Anything he
doesn't just say a word and, right he just goes.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Scoreboard, Right that's that's our. Job our job look at
the scoreboard and go like this all he needs to
do is hold up this and that's, it this six FINALS. MVPs,
LOOK i HAVEN'T i didn't play against everyone that's ever.
PLAYED i never, played like he, said Against oscar And
Jerry west and all. That BUT i do know what
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it does feel like to go against, Him Kobe lebron
for one, season AND i love all those. Guys it's
hard to he will never win if he interjects, himself
puts himself in that. Place, again that's our. Place that's our,
job yours and eyes because from you your eye, test
(31:36):
you've been around a long. Time you've seen a lot of.
BASKETBALL i played against a lot of great, players The,
magics The, larry's The, MICHAELS i played against them. All
SO i kind of get. It but, again that's not
our job to do. That it's and that's not his
job to do.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
That, yeah you, know it's weird WHEN i get asked this,
question because, look you can build up a resume For
lebron and you go what he did to do it
for over twenty years and you know, consistent, see but
you See kobe and it's and it's weird HOW i
Think kobe got kind of Uh, OH i think we lost.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
You.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Reg, oh, yeah start bringing Up. Jordan here we. Go, Yeah,
todd we'll see if you can GET regi back on.
There i'm just glad That Mike. Tarico you, Know mike
hadn't been that busy the last you, know six. Weeks
i'm glad that he got to do something where All reg's. Back,
(32:39):
yeah got to sit down With jordan again for another.
Interview but you, Know kobe's the one, that, like If
i'm you and you, say, okay you got to Face
Lebron Mike kobe Like kobe Is. MIKE i mean It's
lebron's a, different different animal out, there but like style,
Wise kobe is Is mike because he himself AFTER.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
I, THINK i think we get caught up when we
talk about the goat situation and the go. Debate to,
me the best player of the three IS. Mj kobe
is a clone and a better, version like He's mike on,
steroids better jump. Shooter to, me the fundamentals were better
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because he perfected them to be like the MASTER. Mj
if you're talking about, careers the best career out of
all three of, those in my opinion Is lebron because
of the longevity and what he has done eight straight.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Finals but you you you put emphasis on career and, rightfully,
yeah there's a.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Difference, SO i, Mean lebron has had the best career
out of anyone for him to continue to play like this
at this, level this late in his. Career but if
we're going stack for stack, player to, ME, Mj, kobe
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and Then.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Lebron oh in that, order.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
To me in that order just Because, okay LOOK i
only had one year Versus. Lebron my last, year his rookie,
YEAR i got tattooed BY. MJ i got tattooed By
kobe at a high, level you, know Facing kobe in the.
Finals so there's a body of work Between kobe AND
i THAT i can you, KNOW i have a sample size.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Against it's it's interesting WHEN i watch defenders on guys
who were supposed to score and how you don't let
it affect. You BUT i don't know how you, Don't
like if you're Guarding kobe on the wing and everybody's, watching,
yeah and all of a sudden he blows by you
and you know, Dunks, like how do you not take? That? Personally?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Well you never wanted to show emotions when you were
playing those two, guys AND i tried as much as
possible not to BECAUSE i tried to put pressure on
them at the other end as, well Because i'm blowing
by them as. Well you, KNOW I i tried to put
as much pressure and make them work as hard as
they possibly were making me, work to try to tire them.
(35:28):
Out both of those, Players Kobe, mike they were superior
athletes in fantastic, shape which is very difficult to. Do,
so you, KNOW i heard you earlier talking about THE
La marathon and you know run in the twenty six
miles and all. THAT i tried to make it a
marathon versus those guys and make it a track meet
and constantly keep them in motion to try and tire them.
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Down some games it, worked other games it. Didn't but
that's WHAT i tried to do versus those two.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Players talking To Reggie, miller he was on the call
For Rocket spurs last. Night he'll be staying In San,
Antonio Celtic. Spurs that's tomorrow, night eight eastern ON nbc And.
Peacock what do you make of THIS La? Marathon if
you run eighteen, miles you get the same metal as
those who completed The New york or the deal with
the participation.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Trophies come, on, now now.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
They talked about they talked about the, heat and BUT
i can't give you the same, metal the same exact.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Medal is it the exact same?
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Medal, yes come, on that can't happen, Then really the
marathon was eighteen miles in that twenty six, correct, Baby,
yeah can't do. That well we're giving out participation medals
or just going eighteen?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Miles?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
No, yeah but you got you got kids they probably
get participation trophies.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
And dry in absolutely Mad. THEODORE i mean it, does
because what are we teaching these. Kids that's not how life.
Works right in the business, world it. Does don't. Work
you do not get a participation trophy for coming in
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second or. Third work, hard go back to the, lab
get in the, gym go outside and start. Shooting, hey
get on the field and stop working on your. Fielding
learn how to catch the.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Football did you get anything for finishing runner up in
THE Nba? Finals?
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Yeah you know WHAT i. Got that's a, bat that's. It,
yeah that's all we. Got.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Kobe kobe gave you a pat on the back and, said,
Yeah i'm a. Chance why are you torturing me right?
Now you KNOW i DIDN'T i didn't know who gave
you the pad on the? Back did you give yourself a?
Pad check gave me a Get?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah you gotta play hard.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Rich.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Rick they. Couldn't they couldn't go to Big. Dithel that
was the. PROBLEM i was, Like, okay you're, right big.
Fella you're, right big.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Fella if you had to pick, that you're gonna get
bounced in the second round of the postseason or you're
going to lose in THE nba.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Finals i'll always take the finals because anything can happen
once you get. There but it trusts. Me it beatings much.
More it stings much more because you say to, yourself
where CAN i win four? Games when you get to the,
finals that's what you, Say i've got to win four.
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Games and then when we went down two to oh
going back home and we won game, Three we're, like
we Are you're you're saying three. Wins you would do
anything to win three, games and, Yeah so that's how
desperate you, get and that that's the thinking you have to.
Have AND i know people ought to be politically, correct
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but you are counting down to sixteen. Wins once you
get to THE nba, playoffs and once you get to the,
finals you just, say how CAN i win four games
before that other?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Team would you give up part of your pinky finger
on your left? Hand?
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Friend? Yip?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah people?
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Understand? Man when, yeah DID i say on my left?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Hand?
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah OH i still.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Contributed, YEAH i can hold the. Ball, yeah give it the,
ball give it the.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Ball nine and a half fingers, Miller.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Yeah just just give me the. Ball people are, yes,
YES i. Would it wouldn't stink to. Me the reason
WHY i feel this way, people AND i want to
explain this to him IF i had ever been so
close for so many, years so many conference finals versus
The Knicks, philly when you're that, close when it's eight
(40:08):
down to four and then losing to The lakers in the,
finals needing four. Wins when you're that close and you
can taste it and see the finish, line but you
can't get to the finish. Line that's WHY i feel this.
Way the. Stinks IF i had been like first second
round and always you know going, OUT i had was
never close to the finish, line so who? Cares but
(40:29):
when you're close and you can see the FINISH i
felt like That kenyan runner that was in first place
and The american runner was. Running that's how you feel
when you get to the. Finals CAN i get to
that finish line?
Speaker 2 (40:44):
First marvin last week said if he was The Buffalo,
bills he'd rather not get to the Super bowl and.
Lose he'd rather lose earlier in the. PLAYOFFS i want.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
To be on the biggest, Stage, marvin because you want
To you want the world. Scene you want to compete
at the highest level against the best. Players and if
that's The World, series the Super, bowl THE Nba, finals
The Stanley, cup The, olympics for some of these runners
and track, athletes you want to compete against the. Best
(41:21):
and that that year we went to the finals With
Larry legend as our. Coach we felt we were the
best team in The. East we knew The lakers were
the best team in The. West we wanted that smoke
and we knew it was going to be an uphill,
battle but they hadn't won in a long, time so
both of us were coming. IN i, mean we knew
they had the, pedigree they were The, lakers but The
(41:43):
lakers hadn't won yet that was their first championship and
we had never, won so we felt we were on equal.
Footing so that's why we felt we had we had a.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Shot AND i like That kobe stole your, move your
step back. Jumped we had filmed.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
A Real Real world, episode he AND. I we took
on The Real world cast in a game of two
on eight and before we started, filming before the other
crew showed, up we played one on One kobe AND
i And, hey show me, this show me this. Move you.
(42:24):
Know he was, like picking my. BRAIN i love how
you do. This you, KNOW i saw you do this AGAINST.
Mj AND i was, like being a big, Brother, hey, yeah,
yeah this is WHAT i. Did you do the step,
back be sure you create. Space and when he when
he closes one more dribble and then You're he's, like,
OKAY i got. It that fool was writing it down
(42:46):
and using those moves against me in the. Finals i'm,
like ain't this, Something ain't this? Something smart? Dude Smart
Kobe Rest God, REST i know you were looking down
on this interview right, now smiling and, Yeah, RANCH i got.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
You thank, you reg have fun Guard.
Speaker 6 (43:07):
Theaedore much love to my DAD Ds. Marvin next, year
you AND, i let's sign up for THE La, marathon,
baby and let's go eighteen miles so we can get
Our Particiapaci. MEDAL i, mean.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Let's. Go Reggie. Miller he'll be on the Call coach
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