May 4, 2026 • 44 mins
DP and the Danettes recap the latest from the NBA Playoffs. Was Jaylen Brown wrong for calling out the refs after Game 7? They react to a recent list of the greatest living American songwriters. And NBA on Prime analyst Jim Jackson weighs in on Jaylen Brown's comments and previews the NBA Conference Semifinals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio in no particular order.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me start with the Kentucky Derby. Over nineteen million
total viewers in the final hour of the TV coverage
and by comparison, last Summer's NBA Finals Game seven average
sixteen million. This is sort of the March madness of
other sports. When you think about it, everybody is doing
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a pool Kentucky Derby, pool, your wife, daughters, you, your friends,
everybody's picking a horse, everybody's watching you have parties where
you get dressed up, and it feels like, just like
March madness, it's still an event. It doesn't matter who's
in it. It's still an event, and there's still surprises.
And that was the beauty of what you saw with
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the Kentucky Derby, because when you think about the Derby,
it's kind of standing still in time. It's still about
the spectacle of the power and precision and the pageantry,
the outfits, the horses. Everything looks beautiful, manicured. But when
you think about the Derby, in today's society with sports,
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everything is you're getting bigger and stronger and better and faster,
more powerful. Golden Tempo's winning time on Saturday was just
over two minutes and two seconds. Now that's an impressive run.
Secretariats nineteen seventy three finish was one minute fifty nine
seconds fifty nine point four so the gap of more
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than two and a half seconds and you go, okay,
that's not too bad. That would be fifteen lengths. So
two and a half seconds equates to over fifteen lengths.
So Secretariat would have won the Derby by fifteen over
golden tempo. So here we are, more than five decades later,
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and the sport is still not produced anyone capable of
matching this horse is brilliant. And when you realize all
but one horse was a descendant of Secretariat in the
Kentucky Derby. But the Derby legend it's still alive. History
is constantly being rewritten, but with the Derby it's not.
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But it is still an incredible event. And you had
this one, you know, wonderful last to first dash, and
you know it's one of those where you go, I'm
glad I'm watching it. You know, it's it's one of
those where you say, what time is it, Well, that's
six o'clock. They usually try to go off get everybody
put it in, put into the gates at around forty six,
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forty five eastern, and they like to get them out
going at the six fifty seven. And it was fun.
You know, you get a female trainer. Great interviews by
on NBC. Peacock did a wonderful job all afternoon long
because you get to know the horses. It's like studying
for a final cramming. You don't know anything about horse racing.
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You might think you do, but then all of a sudden,
here you go. Here's the horses, here's the story, here's
the jockey, here's the owner, here's the trainer. And the
Kentucky Derby always always delivers, and it was fun, fun
to watch. Fritzie sends me a note and he goes,
and I know what's gonna happen because Fritzi will somehow
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have a negative thought. And Fritzi almost missed the derby.
So Fritzie goes, how many Derby wins would it take
for you to be promised to be the height of
a jockey?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
A little insensitive. We got into that a little bit
last week with it.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
He could be eight feet tall or two feet tall,
and all that I was just wondering, like, how many
Kentucky Derby wins if they said you're guaranteed to win one, two, three,
but you have to be you know, the height of
a jockey.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You're well, okay, I always ask you the question that
you ask me. Is there a number of Kentucky Derby's
that if I promise you five, but you're gonna be
the height of a jockey?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There is not to me personally.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'd rather be my average height than not be able
to say I won any Kentucky Derberys.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I can live with that and not accomplish anything in life.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I would say, not accomplish anything life, But the Kentucky
Derby wouldn't be that much of a deal to change
my size my stature.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yes, Dylan, what if you won the Triple Crown?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Oh, that's a whole other story.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So if you're like Billy Shoemaker, Billy.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Shoemaker went a lot of money off of that too.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Steve coughthin, how about that?
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Thanks Paul.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
That opens the stable a little bit on where I
would go with the height.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
All right, do we have a legitimate poll question today? Dylan?
Oh you want a legitimate Well, yeah, let's try and
let's do something different today. By the way, best and
worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked
you didn't like? You can dial up Tyler EH seven
to seven three DP show. Okay, Well, this one's also
from Todd. Just prefacing it. How much did you bet
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on the Derby? More than ten one hundred, one thousand
or none at all? Just the game? Well, I did
see a social media video of you. I don't know
what you bet, but I was betting how many beers
you probably had, and I was gonna bet around nine
or ten.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
It was actually it was more of a brown liquor day, Dan,
I'll probably explain that, Oh were you doing bourbon?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I was drinking some mint julibs okay, and you were
chasing it with Miller Lite, which nice.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
A Miller like chaser, A couple of nighttime bloody Mary's.
Got some looks about that, but it was a nice
a smattering.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Anybody bet any money, Yes.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I did.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I bet a little more than one hundred dollars total
on the race spread across god knows what. And I
basically make a donation every Derby day.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Yes, Paul, my wife and kids and I we each
put in ten dollars, but I ended up putting ten
dollars in for everybody, so I lost forty. My daughter
one forty.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Any other poll questions, We've got one off of an
NBA Paul, Would.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
You like that? Dan?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Let me, you know, do a drive by here. Let
me see if there's something stick.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Should Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown part ways? This is
part of a larger Celtics question.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think okay, I would say no because there are
not many teams in the NBA who have players that
size in that talent. Now I know that it didn't
work out. Give credit to Philadelphia. Philadelphia figured out something
because they got blown out twice by over thirty points
in this series, and then all of a sudden, Jason
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Tatum's not there to play and the Boston Celtics, even
though they're at home. Philadelphia was resilient and Joe Ellenbiid
played great. Tobias Harris come on down. The backcourt is
already really, really good. But that's one of those where
if you're not hitting your shots, and we saw this
with Boston, that's their mo These are playoff games. This
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is in regular season where your three might not be
as contested, well, they weren't hitting their shots. Philadelphia. I
mean I watch Embiid and he just sort of moves.
I mean it's not quick, not fast. He's not jumping,
He's playing the angles. He knows where his sweet spots are.
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He put up thirty four points. And I think that's
the amazing part is eventually you see players who just
know how to play the game. They're not athletic as
far as end to end and jumping. This is where
you see the guy on the playground who might be
forty five years of age and he's the best player.
Why because he knows how to play basketball. Embiid can't
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do what he once did. There's a Nikola Jokicic feel
to his game now not as skilled, but still to
be out there, to come back from surgery, all of
his surgeries, be able to play. And now you've got
Paul George. They both played thirty eight games, so they
are fresh, but they might not be completely healthy and
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all the surgeries they've had and the injuries they've had.
But Philadelphia, and I said this to a couple of people,
I thought that the Knicks built their roster to beat Boston.
They didn't build their roster to beat the Sixers. That's
what I want to see with the matchup.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I know the Knicks are favored. They're favored by seven
and a half. Tonight, even Joel Embiid said hey, when
the series goes to Philadelphia, don't sell your tickets. I
can't imagine any other place that might say this. Any
other star athlete who would say, hey, whatever you do,
don't sell your tickets. The Eagles, they would never have
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Jalen Hurts would never have to say, hey, don't sell
your tickets to the Giants. Here is Joel Embiid after
the win.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
I just have a message for our fans. Last time
we played the Knicks, it felt like I felt like
this was Madison Square gone the East. So we're gonna
need to support. You know, don't sell you tickets. We
need you guys that I'm most here that we've had
the last couple of games in Philly, especially the last
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one pushing it to Game seven. I mean, we need
all of it. I don't care if it's seventy thirty.
You know, Snicks fans, they travel, They're going to buy
the tickets, and that's going to be you know, some
people that need the money, and I you know, probably
gonna sell tickets, but don't do it if you need money.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I got you, all right, all right, I got you.
But Jalen Brunson isn't saying this to Knick fans. Why
is it more important? Or it feels like it's more
important for the Knick fans than it is for the
Sixer fans. That's what kind of surprised me there. And granted,
you know we've seen, you know, home teams fans sell
their tickets, but this is Philadelphia. Well, this is Philadelphia.
(09:57):
It's different, yes, Martin, But.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
Knicks fans are to travel. That's a quick trip. That's
a quick train ride.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's a quick trip from Philly to New York. True,
but it's the same.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
But the Garden it's so expensive. I know that it's ridiculous.
I know that I'd rather take a train. It's gonna
be less expensive to take a train, get a hotel,
and get tickets to the Sixers than just a regular
old ticket to the Garden.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Okay, are you surprised that Embiid has to say to
Philly fans, don't sell your tickets. No, you're not.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
Surprised because he saw it two years ago that playoff series.
It was almost like the Hawks against the Knicks last
playoff series, where it was like, man, is this Madison
Square Gardener State Farm Arena. That's what it's gonna look
like in Philadelphia if they keep selling their tickets to
Knicks fans.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Poul Embiid also said Madison Square Garden East. I think
it would be South or West. I'm not an X man.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
He did everything right except for you know, the direction. Yes, Todd, I.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Think it's less shocking more sad that he has to
say something like that to me, like you have to
implore or plead with the fans to you know, show up,
don't sell the tickets to the Knicks man's.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's kind of weak.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Maga Ton. Yes, major city like Philly.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Philly is one of those fan bases though, where you
would expect, like playoffs for any of the major sports,
they're selling out all of them tickets.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yes, Yeah, I am surprised. Yeah, Like I get it.
If you're a Dolphins fan and you say, hey, don't
sell your tickets, you know, to Giants fans or Patriot
fans when they come down. I understand that, but you
would think Philly. That's an unbelievable fan base, you know,
the Dolphins, not necessarily, but it just kind of surprised
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me a little bit. The other part of it was,
and I got to watch a lot of this series,
and because I thought Boston was going to go to
the Eastern Conference Finals. I thought they would go to
the NBA Finals. I really did. I thought everything the
pieces were kind of falling in place and they would
Tatum back. Jalen Brown did a wonderful job the entire year.
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Then you started to see where Derek White's not quite
the Olympian we thought he was Peyton Pritchard. You know,
you just play off basketball and it's just a different
feel everything about it. And Jalen Brown was complaining after
the loss. After the end of the series, I'm going
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to bring back some of the things that he had
to say after the loss, And I was a little
surprised because when you're up three to one, I didn't
hear him complaining about any officiating, or you're up three
to two, I didn't hear anything. And maybe I didn't
read everything in the Boston Globe or online, but all
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of a sudden, you lose and now all of a
sudden you're complaining that there was an agenda embiide gets
to flop, which you can have two things be correct.
But I've never ever seen where when you complain publicly,
and he did during the regular season. He did say
that he can't get away with what other players can
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get away with, offensive fouls that are called on him
when he raises his arm when he's trying to get
a shot off.
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Speaker 2 (13:50):
Picked up the New York Times magazine, Taylor Swift was
on the cover and I go, all right, I'll read
about Taylor Swift and it was the fifty Greatest Living
American Songwriters, and I thought, okay, I'll look at that.
And you go through and you see Bob Dylan is
in there, Carol King is in there and gave us
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the great album Tapestry. You got Outcast in there, So
there's bad bunnies in there. There's a variety of artists
in there, and you're kind of going through. Stevie Wonders
in there, and you're going, okay, Bruce Springsteen, all right.
Then all of a sudden, I go, well, Hall and
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Oates are still alive. I think they wrote most of
their music. And then I go, Billy Joel is still alive.
I think he wrote most of his music. They're not
in there. So the top fifty American Living American songwriters
is it top fifty or top thirty?
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Paul I got thirty.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh well, maybe they should have gone to fifty, so
then Billy Joel and Hallan Oates would have made that.
But I was kind of surprised at this list that
and some of the some of the artists I didn't know,
and some of them are just songwriters. But I did.
I was kind of surprised that Hall of Oates and
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Billy Joel didn't make the cut.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Yeah, Paul, I'm reading the list, and I'm surprised with
Billy Joel because even if you don't like his music,
you can't argue with the success of his work for
you know, a ten year period. They did have a
PostScript article eleven great American Songwriters who didn't make our
list The New York Times. They did that because of
the reaction.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Well, who did they put in there?
Speaker 6 (15:36):
All the people you just named? It didn't make it,
like Billy Joel and the few.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Did Hall of Oates make their list of because I
don't I don't know if they wrote their music. I
know Billy Joel did.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Frank Ocean made it, Billy Joel did, Hall Notes did not.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh Well, to be fair to the list in New
York Times, I should check and see if Hall and
Oates actually wrote their music. Kendrick Lamar is in there.
You know, there's people that deserve to be in there.
It's just kind of surprising that you have the thirty
greatest living American songwriters and Billy Joel doesn't make that list. Yes,
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Paul does.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
It matter if an artist writes his songs or her songs.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
James Taylor's not in there, is he? Because I think
James Taylor wrote his music. I'm not. I don't think
James Taylor is in there among the top thirty. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
I remember seeing an interview with Garth Brooks, the great
country star at his peak, and he even said, I
don't write the songs. I'm giving songs. I'm the performer.
And because people were asking, oh, you don't write your
own songs if it's a bad thing as well. You
know Robert de Niro doesn't write his own lines.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well there are Sinatra didn't write anything. I don't think.
I mean, I get it. There's certain artists that will
take what you give them and then make it theirs.
But did Chris Stapleton make it in among the greatest
living American songwriters. I don't know if Chris did. He's
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written over a thousand songs. He's written songs where he
hands them out to other people. He said, Adele, he
wrote a song for Adele. This is he said. I
didn't even know who Adele was at the time, but
you know, he wrote a song for her, wrote a
song for Darius Ruck. I mean, he's written a lot
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of songs. I would think that he would be in there.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Yes, Dylan, We've got Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton in there,
and young Thug.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And Willie Nelson should be in there. Willy is one
of the great songwriters of all time. And any list
that has Dolly Parton in I'm fine with that.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
Yes, Marvin, Yeah, Dolly Parton should just be in there alone,
just for writing Joelene and I Will Always Love You
in the same day.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Joline, I think Dolly talked about she eventually ran into
Joe Lene years later, and she said basically that Jolene
didn't hold up like Jolene didn't look like Joelene when
she wrote the song.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
Yeah, yes, Mark, there's pictures of young Dolly Parton, and
the question always is what did Joelene look like? Because
if you're leaving Dolly Parton for Joline had better been
top five, dead or alive.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, but this is Dolly talking about how beautiful Joelene was.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
I need a young need a young picture young Joelene.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
The magic had fired, Jamal Moseley, Here we go, so
Billy Donovan and I was told this a while ago
when it looked like he was going to leave the
Bulls that where would his two places be that he
would go to. One was Golden State and the other
one was the Orlando Magic. Well, the Magic make the playoffs.
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They're playing well, Jamal Mosley is not going to get
fired if they end up winning that series and move on,
no matter what would happen that next round. But Billy Donovan,
maybe this time he does take the Orlando Magic job.
I did talk about the Sixers Joe llenb talking about
don't sell your tickets to the Knicks when they come
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to town. Twenty twenty four, the Sixers ownership group bought
more than two thousand tickets during a first round playoff
series to keep them out of the hands of the
New York Knicks. Now, this time around, ticket sales will
be limited to those located in the quote Greater Philadelphia
area end quote. The team plans to make sure that
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this is the case by confirming where you live based
on the credit card billing address of the purchaser to
make sure the Knicks are still going to get tickets. Yeah,
I mean, we're not fooling anybody here. You're going to
get your ticket and tickets and no matter what, you'll
probably sell them if you think you can make good money,
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because then the nick folks are going to become in
and spending money here. So let's see best and worst
of the weekend phone calls coming up, Dylan, the poll
results from nunquer one and what are you going to
go with? An hour two?
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Our latest pulled in was would you take a triple
crown win if it meant being jockey height the rest
of your life? About sixty seven percent say no. For
the second hour going from Paully about the derby is
when it comes to winning a race, who should get
the most credit the horse, the jockey, the trainer or
the owner. Okay, and I would say I think the
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trainer ends up getting a lot of the credit. They
tend to be the most famous, obviously, Secretary, There's been
famous horses, but the trainers who win tend to I think,
get associated the most with it.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Nile Rodgers is on this list of great songwriters, Lucinda
Williams is on here as a great songwriter, and most
of these people belong on this list, I would think,
but I still would be if you can see Todd,
you should know. Well, I don't know if you'll know,
but Stevie wonders on this, did hall of Oates write
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their own music?
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Everything I'm looking at suggests that the majority were from
Hall of Oates, that Daryl Hall wrote a lot of them,
John Hoates did a few, there was some collaboration, there
was a woman named Sarah something that was part of it,
but that they supposedly wrote most of their own music.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Paul Simon is on here, Jay Z is on here. Obviously,
Taylor Swift is on here. I mean there's missy Ello's
on here, Lionel Richie, Okay, if you're putting Lionel Ritchie
on there, I gotta put Billy Joel on there. And
I think that there is a podcast on you know,
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this topic, and I think somebody talked about Billy Joel's
music being schlocky. I think that was the word. But
I mean Lionel Ritchie had see. I don't want to
do this, come on now, no, I don't want to.
I don't want to be criticizing somebody to try to
lift up somebody else, but Lionel Richie, Billy Joel, Yes.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
Martin worst song, We didn't start the fire or dancing
on the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, let me ask Todd.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I would go with the we didn't start the fire
is not quite as good as dancing on the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Okay, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
It feels like these New York Times lists and other
lists theyre kind of want you to be upset about
a snub. And maybe the Billy Joel snub is on purpose.
Because Fiona Apple made the list. She had a nice
little two year run. She was famous for a while
and had some cool songs. I don't know if she
had the impact or success of Billy Joel. I'm being
very fair.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'm surprised Cheryl Crow is not on here. I mean,
she's a Hall of Famer, but Chris Stapleton did not
make it. Oh my god. I don't want to get
too caught up in it. I just I was surprised
at that. Yes, Dylan, I think we could agree.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
That Billie Joel and Lionel Richie are both kind of shlocky.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah they're together, Yeah, but I mean, nobody's written a
hit in whatever forty years. I don't think.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Yes, part of writing a song is making it successful,
not just being cool and hip or whatever like whatever
worked for Lionel Richie worked.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, and uh, Lionel Richie was Commodorees.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
He was.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah. I don't know how much he wrote for the Commodoores.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
I don't know. I mean, I'll take brick House if
I write brick House.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'm all right, yeah, yes, Ton.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
What did you think of Running with the Knight Playing
in the Shadows? That was a pretty cool song, Linel Richie.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I don't, I don't. I don't know if I'm familiar
with that.
Speaker 9 (23:48):
They were running with the Night, playing in the shadows,
just you and till the morning last.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Still not familiar, Okay, No, I mean, you know, maybe
they should have expanded it to fifty. All you gotta
do is be alive. All the notes, Billy Joel, They're alive, Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
I think there was a massive oversight here and that
Todd wasn't even considered for the list. He has written
numerous original songs.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You know what, nub talking pis, let's get quizical, Yeah,
future bump your apple for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I don't know what the other one?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
All right?
Speaker 9 (24:30):
What questions that take that? Stevie Wonder Sports.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Radio conversation, your shot to answer it?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Just right?
Speaker 8 (24:39):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I mean, don't google. Let's just try to think it alright, alrighty, alrighty, Yes, Mark.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
To you, who's the greatest living songwriter just overall?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Dylan? Yeah, i'd say Dylan. He's still writing good music,
can't sing good music, but he still usually gets favorable
reviews for his music that he's still writing today. So
I would say Dylan with what he wrote, what it meant,
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and it still continues to perform. Yes, Mark, I.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
Know your issue was some of these guys haven't written
hits in forty fifty years, but I think it's basically
at their apex they were just churning out just unbelievable songs. Correct.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yes, yes, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
That's like saying Jim Brown hasn't had a thousand yards season.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, but he's dead, so he couldn't be on the list. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
I love how it is that you get because during
the commercial break, I could hear you on the phone going, yeah,
did you see the list? You're talking to someone about
the way.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I was talking to my wife because I'm looking for
an audience at home, and you know the dog will listen,
but you know she can't respond. The he's not listening.
My daughters usually have their earbuds in, and then there's
my wife, and so I'm complaining about, like, how do
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you not have Billy jo Like I don't understand that,
And then I started bringing up other names, and then
all of a sudden, I'm getting worked up and there's
really nobody to play off of. Yes, Marvin, so that
means the list did its job. Yeah, but I don't
like being toyed with like that. It's like when the
mother Ship had Michael Jordan the greatest college player of
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all time. It was embarrassing. Even Mike would say, no way,
Leuel Sindor is the greatest college player of all time.
It's not even close. But it's like, we got to
get eyeballs on this, didn't. The WNBA just have something
about the top ten players and they put Caitlin Clark
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on the page. And she's tenth on the list, So
you got to put her up there just so you
can tune. You know you're gonna read it bait and switch, click.
Bait and switch is what it is.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yes, Paul, I think I had the football comp to
the snub of Billy Joel. Should I say it or
do it?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Now?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I mean, is it worthy to go.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
No, it's not worthy that I would say Terry Bradshaw.
Terry Bradshaw never gets in conversations with great quarterbacks. But
if you look at the numbers for Super Bowls, and
he was responsible for a lot of getting him there
and winning, but he never gets discussed Billy Joel's success.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You can't argue with Okay, who was better in the seventies,
Billy Joel, Jewel or Terry Bradshaw. That old question.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
That's a great one though. Yeah, I think it's fair
because Billy Joel's success. You may think it's hokey now,
but he was gigantic in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And he's dating Elle McPherson and Christy Brinkley reportedly at
the same time.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
His list is better than your list.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yes, but his his kiss on my list. There you go,
haul of Oes Todd.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
And Billy Joel is doing it by himself.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
You know, you got you know, he was like a
one man gang, So that I would lean towards. But
Terry Bradshaw had a terrible tow great defense, Steel Curtain
and Stalworth and Swan and Frank o' harris, Rocky.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Blyer, No no, we we know.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I'm just that's why Lean toy Stff the two Hockey ones,
I would go less hokey to Billy Joel.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't think Billy. I don't think Terry Bradshaw was hokey.
But the pause point about like what we you know,
putting those two together and making them analogous. It's because
of their hokiness that they would make an analogy between
those two being left out of things. Get Terry Bradshaw
and Billy Joel on the phone there in Todd, that
would be subject. Yeah, you'd be in heaven if.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
That would be a fantastic Billy.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I just want to say I I wanted to move
to Allentown because I wanted to live. I'm living here
in Allentown. I didn't start to fire U. I wanted
to play the piano.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I could sing the Pittsburgh song to Terry.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
Yeah, that'd be great, Yes, Marv, I could just hear Fritzy. Oh, Billy,
I've been a fan.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
For the longest time.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
I see what I did. It was a song for
the longest time.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Uh, Todd, I think you and me the only ones
you've seen Billy John concert.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I saw him multiple times.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, you saw him with Elton John.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I did. I sang with Elton John.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I saw him separately, I'd say at least three times
and it was great. And I saw him recently for
the last concert that he did. I don't know if
he's ever going to perform again because of health issues,
but I saw Hm at Mohegan's Son last February and
that was his last concert so far.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah. I got to see him at the Garden in
the same row with Christie Brinkley.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, and then they're, uh, let's see who do they have? Well,
his daughter sang yeah, Alexa. Yeah, Lexa came on stage.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
They put the boat on the stage too, which is
really weird how they want to put the whole yacht big.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
On the down Easter.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen to down Easter.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Alexa that you came on there on the boat and
they pulled it in with a rope.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
But don't you think if you're saying hey, Alexa and
then the Alexa thing comes on every time you're talking.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
To her, that would be problematic.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yes, how about we take a break.
Speaker 11 (30:19):
Yi yi?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, we're not doing this. H Yes. Well,
if this.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Were nineteen eighty seven, it would have been the greatest
Yes Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It'd be a great segment there.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
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Speaker 2 (30:51):
Jim Jackson, NBA College basketball analyst. Always great to have
Jim back. How are you feeling.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I'm good. I'm good. Just for you. I got up early.
You know, I'm on the West coast, so just let
you know that if we didn't have this really good relationship. No,
I mean, it's just I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Just saying, Jim, it's eight thirty out there.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I mean, yeah, but I live in LA.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I mean, you know it's eight thirty in LA. It's
not thirty.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
That's early.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
It's not early.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Hey, No, it's early, it really is. I'm off season now,
so now I don't have to i don't have to
be up. So this is a strategic effort that I'm
giving you. Right now.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I'm about a round of applause for Jim Johnson.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Hero All right, come on now, can there you go?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
He got eight thirty.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
No, no, no, I didn't get up at eight. I
got up earlier to make sure I was ready. So
that means, you know, I had to get up.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
By the way, Your good buddy, Jason Kidd was on
the show last week, and you know what, you know
what he co signed on. Tell me that he sicked
out on that shooting contest when he was with the Maps,
that he what he remember he got sick? He didn't,
he didn't. I flew down to Dallas. I told you
the story. You didn't believe me, Marvin. Did Jason Kidd
(32:13):
admit that he was afraid to shoot against me when
he was with the.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
Map Jim, I know you think DP is lying, but
j Kidd confirmed his story.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Okay, but how did he say? It? Is the key
because he could just be plakating you to make sure
that you keep your prayer.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So that's so now you're calling Jason Kidd a liar.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
No, No, I said play kate. See see, I understand
that the language is that Jason is that kind of player,
I mean and coach. It's all about the team. It's
not about me. So if you say it, Jay's like Okay, yes, Dan,
you know what, I didn't want to get embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And that's basically what he said.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Jim, Yeah, that's see, and I said the same thing.
You see how it works.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, I'm just saying that you question me as a
journalist and that hurt.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Well, I questioned the one on one part and shooting
now I'm still I'm still waiting for that.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh no, I'm not playing in one on one. I'm
just shooting.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Well, you and I I'm not on that opportunity right now.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You shouldn't be able to beat me. All right, let
me talk some basketball. I don't know what Jalen Brown
is talking about, but feels like you might get in
trouble for saying this about the referees in the playoffs.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
It clearly had an agenda, like maybe because I spoke
in those critical or the reps in the regular season.
So you know how they responded like, we're gonna call
every We're gonna we're gonna you're gonna lead the playoffs
and offensive fouls. That's how that was the response from
the officiating crew. You could clearly tell and I and
I've actually spoke to some reps and they said it was.
(33:56):
It was agenda going into each game. So anytime Jalen
brings his own up just from reputation, just call it.
Paul George does the same thing. Jaylen Brenston does the
same thing. Shit, I can go down the list. It's
a basketball player, whether y'all believe.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
It or not.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Okay, this isn't necessarily complaining. This is accusing Jim and
he's saying officials told him there was an agenda. What
do you make of this?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Well, it's tough because if that's a conversation he had,
it's set to dispute that. We don't know how accurate
or if it is really accurate. Jaden Brown hasn't been
one to accuse a player or rep of anything throughout
his career. So for him to come out and say
it now he's talking to an official, he made it.
(34:47):
The statement makes it seem like he saw to an
official that probably wasn't repping that game, maybe that he
has a relationship with, because he's talking about not just
that game, but how Jaylen Brown plays. So this is
something that an official told him that throughout the year
that they picked up on. That's a tendency that they're
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gonna call. Okay, I don't I'm not gonna say I
don't see. I don't think that that's hard to believe. Okay,
But in this perspective, it's like the hardest thing to
do is to officiate the playoff games. Okay, And now
I'm talking to an official, head official the Orlando Detroit series.
(35:30):
How do you go into this game and how do
you look at it? Because it's so physical, you can
call every call you want. And the official told me said, listen,
the freedom of movement is what's important to us. To
off the ball stuff. Okay, when the ball is on
the weak side of the court, of guys coming off
the screen, how physical is a defender. That's what we
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look at. Once you get to the basket, that's gonna dictate.
I mean, a file is a file. Once you get
to the basket, you have got to you gotta kind
of discern that. But what they were looking at was
more off ball movement, the screens, setting picks, how much
they defender, body hands are on an opponent. Those are
the things that I got from officials, and they look
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at it in particular in the playoffs because they the
officials told me, was that they want to allow the
players to kind of dictate what happened. Now, a lot
of what Jalen talked about could be some things that
he heard during the course of the season. They lost
emotions the day after all of these things. So I
can't say that he's lining. I don't know, but I
do know, like.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Can't use the word you can't use the word agenda,
can't use.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
It and right up, yeah, when you when you use that,
that's a little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And I want to know the official. If I'm the commissioner,
tell me who these officials were that told you this,
then then we have a conversation. But this, I thought,
you know, what were you complaining when you were up
three games to one? Were you complaining when you're up
three games to two? You guys all would flop, you'll
sell a foul. I mean, there's part of that in
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sports that they've acknowledged that they've rewarded that with a
lot of these guys. And if Embiid's flopping, Embiid's not
calling the foul against you when he he just flops,
it's up to the official, not Joel Embiid.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Wey, but he you know, like any player, you take
advantage of what the rule go. Okay, in that series,
the pre throw disparity wasn't there. They both shot about
nineteen to twenty pre throws a game. So it's now
like one side was shooting thirty and the other in
Boston was only shooting fifteen.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So I think a lot of times we as players
get into a situation, especially after a loss, and you
go back and look and said, well, this player is
getting called. Joel Embie always got those calls. Certain players
are always going to get certain calls. You Jaden Brown,
Jason Tingm gonna get certain pauls that other players don't get.
(38:01):
Now is it to the level that Jolan Beid may
get it? Maybe not, but the main players all I mean,
I don't care. I don't care what sport it is.
You know, in football, a quarterback may get hit a
little bit more or get a little bit less, and
they're going to get the benefit of it out just
depending on who that quarterback is, right it like it
(38:22):
or not. You know, it's in baseball, certain guys who
are hitters are not going to get strikes called. And
I'm not saying this right, but I don't think an
agenda to me now again, I don't think the word
like you said, the word agenda is a little bit
too harsh. But that's Jalen's feelings right, wrong or indifferent
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based on the information that he's downloaded and got. So
a lot of times when you ask an athlete to
be honest and they give you an honest answer, then
you want to push back on it. Well, he's telling
you his story, his truth from what he said, he's
been okay.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But if I acknowledge if he's telling the truth, then
tell me the entire truth.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Tell me, tell you the name, tell you the name.
That's all exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Just tell me if they said there's an agenda. We're
talking to Jim Jackson, NBA analyst. What chance do you
give the Sixers against New York.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
I'll give them a big chance. This is a you know,
and the reason why is because I mean they got dudes, man,
they can play, They play hard, you know, Maxi, Paul
George is playing phenomenal basketball right now, Edgecombe, Kelly Oubra
and then of course you're allm B so you know,
in the playoffs, Dan, it's all about a lot of
things happen because of matchups. Cleveland Toronto, Toronto. You're like, well,
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but link size athleticism able to defend at the rim.
That's the problem with Billy because you have matchew No
One from a matchup. Just think about the matchups, Okay,
from New York to Philly. Embiid and Maxi Force are
(40:04):
going to force New York defensively into different rotation which
are gonna open up other opportunities. They're not evenly talking
about Paul George when he gets gone. So you have
three individuals that you gotta lean to tilt the court to.
That's gonna cause you to get bodies off of bodies.
So now often to rebound, second shot opportunity open, spray
out threes, whether that's in transition or a half poor.
(40:26):
Often that's what Philadelphia does. And they put you in
that situation as a team because of those three individuals.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
And you don't have these back to back games. So
Embiid should be able to play in these games. And
Paul George, what chance chances do you give the Lakers
against Okase.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
With no Luca, can they get a game or two?
I mean Lebron And it's funny because with Austin Reeve's back,
he gives you that offensive punk right with Luca back,
if he gets back, they give you that offensive punch.
I mean, there's no question about that. But on the
flip side of that, their liabilities on the defensive end,
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and once this Lakers team was able to do against Houston,
which is the perfect matchup in the first round again,
I'll go back to matchup. Houston Rockers were perfect for
the Lakers in that first round because not having a
playmaker at point Guardy Houston, not having Kevin Durant, despite
La not having Luca and Austin Reeves for bulk of
(41:29):
that series, it played out well, well, Okay, see is
a different animal because they attack you and approach you
in a totally different way, and they're gonna seek out mismatches.
So they're gonna seek out Austin Reeves even Lebron. Now
you add Luca to that, yes, he's gonna give you
thirty two points a game, But defensively is where there's
gonna there would be a drop off that in this
(41:52):
series against that team. What Oka see, things that you
got away with against Houston you can't get away with
against Okay. You just can't.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
What do you think, Steve Kirk should do if the
options are stay with the Golden State Warriors or go
to ESPN.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
That's not because it's so nuanced within what Steve has
been through and where he's at in his career. Because
on one end, it's like Papa Bitch, Papa Bitch wanted
to stay through Tim Duncan. We know we heard a
lot of that noise, Like when Tim Duncan retires, Pop
is out. Because they're tethered together, you know, in some
(42:33):
aspect well by Hooker, by Cruk, Steve is kind of
tethered to Draymon and also Step Step is like I
can go another three or four years, you know what
I'm saying and continue to play. But I'll tell you what,
it's a heck of a position to be. Think about it.
How many coaches who have been as successful as him,
that have struggled in the last couple of years still
(42:55):
have that opportunity to make that kind of decision from
the outside looking in, whatever the relationship is with the organization,
you can always have a backdrop and fall back to say,
I can be a coveted person that ESPN once, not
only once, but once to pay. That's a heck of
(43:17):
a position to be in. But I think he would
step that relationship. I think knowing Steve that he'll sit
down and talk to Step about what's next. Now I
think he's also tied to Draymond. If Steve Lee's I
think there may be a shift in culture and that
may affect Draymond Green on.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
What happens in the future.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
So a lot there's a lot of moving parts within
that dynamic. But I think he has to make a
decision sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
How about a round of applause again for Jim Jianks
warrior here.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
You know last night of the Drop, it was, you know,
had a lot of stuff going on this weekend, and
you know I figured that, you know, coming on your show.
If I wasn't preparative prep, then you know, I can't
represent myself. So get got up earlier than the normal
to ensure that's just gonna happened.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
So incredible, But.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
That's what you do for the people that you really respect.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
You know, once again, round of put Jackson, thank you,
thank you, the warrior, the Mavericks. He's not a Golden
State warrior, He's a warrior.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
He just was though you know, one of my eighteen
thousand teams.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Thanks for getting up, No no problem, won't make you sleep.
That's Jim Jackson
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio in no particular order.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me start with the Kentucky Derby. Over nineteen million
total viewers in the final hour of the TV coverage
and by comparison, last Summer's NBA Finals Game seven average
sixteen million. This is sort of the March madness of
other sports. When you think about it, everybody is doing
(00:27):
a pool Kentucky Derby, pool, your wife, daughters, you, your friends,
everybody's picking a horse, everybody's watching you have parties where
you get dressed up, and it feels like, just like
March madness, it's still an event. It doesn't matter who's
in it. It's still an event, and there's still surprises.
And that was the beauty of what you saw with
(00:48):
the Kentucky Derby, because when you think about the Derby,
it's kind of standing still in time. It's still about
the spectacle of the power and precision and the pageantry,
the outfits, the horses. Everything looks beautiful, manicured. But when
you think about the Derby, in today's society with sports,
(01:11):
everything is you're getting bigger and stronger and better and faster,
more powerful. Golden Tempo's winning time on Saturday was just
over two minutes and two seconds. Now that's an impressive run.
Secretariats nineteen seventy three finish was one minute fifty nine
seconds fifty nine point four so the gap of more
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than two and a half seconds and you go, okay,
that's not too bad. That would be fifteen lengths. So
two and a half seconds equates to over fifteen lengths.
So Secretariat would have won the Derby by fifteen over
golden tempo. So here we are, more than five decades later,
(01:56):
and the sport is still not produced anyone capable of
matching this horse is brilliant. And when you realize all
but one horse was a descendant of Secretariat in the
Kentucky Derby. But the Derby legend it's still alive. History
is constantly being rewritten, but with the Derby it's not.
(02:18):
But it is still an incredible event. And you had
this one, you know, wonderful last to first dash, and
you know it's one of those where you go, I'm
glad I'm watching it. You know, it's it's one of
those where you say, what time is it, Well, that's
six o'clock. They usually try to go off get everybody
put it in, put into the gates at around forty six,
(02:40):
forty five eastern, and they like to get them out
going at the six fifty seven. And it was fun.
You know, you get a female trainer. Great interviews by
on NBC. Peacock did a wonderful job all afternoon long
because you get to know the horses. It's like studying
for a final cramming. You don't know anything about horse racing.
(03:02):
You might think you do, but then all of a sudden,
here you go. Here's the horses, here's the story, here's
the jockey, here's the owner, here's the trainer. And the
Kentucky Derby always always delivers, and it was fun, fun
to watch. Fritzie sends me a note and he goes,
and I know what's gonna happen because Fritzi will somehow
(03:23):
have a negative thought. And Fritzi almost missed the derby.
So Fritzie goes, how many Derby wins would it take
for you to be promised to be the height of
a jockey?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
A little insensitive. We got into that a little bit
last week with it.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
He could be eight feet tall or two feet tall,
and all that I was just wondering, like, how many
Kentucky Derby wins if they said you're guaranteed to win one, two, three,
but you have to be you know, the height of
a jockey.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You're well, okay, I always ask you the question that
you ask me. Is there a number of Kentucky Derby's
that if I promise you five, but you're gonna be
the height of a jockey?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There is not to me personally.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I'd rather be my average height than not be able
to say I won any Kentucky Derberys.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I can live with that and not accomplish anything in life.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I would say, not accomplish anything life, But the Kentucky
Derby wouldn't be that much of a deal to change
my size my stature.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yes, Dylan, what if you won the Triple Crown?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Oh, that's a whole other story.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So if you're like Billy Shoemaker, Billy.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Shoemaker went a lot of money off of that too.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Steve coughthin, how about that?
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Thanks Paul.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
That opens the stable a little bit on where I
would go with the height.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
All right, do we have a legitimate poll question today? Dylan?
Oh you want a legitimate Well, yeah, let's try and
let's do something different today. By the way, best and
worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked
you didn't like? You can dial up Tyler EH seven
to seven three DP show. Okay, Well, this one's also
from Todd. Just prefacing it. How much did you bet
(04:55):
on the Derby? More than ten one hundred, one thousand
or none at all? Just the game? Well, I did
see a social media video of you. I don't know
what you bet, but I was betting how many beers
you probably had, and I was gonna bet around nine
or ten.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
It was actually it was more of a brown liquor day, Dan,
I'll probably explain that, Oh were you doing bourbon?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I was drinking some mint julibs okay, and you were
chasing it with Miller Lite, which nice.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
A Miller like chaser, A couple of nighttime bloody Mary's.
Got some looks about that, but it was a nice
a smattering.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Anybody bet any money, Yes.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I did.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I bet a little more than one hundred dollars total
on the race spread across god knows what. And I
basically make a donation every Derby day.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Yes, Paul, my wife and kids and I we each
put in ten dollars, but I ended up putting ten
dollars in for everybody, so I lost forty. My daughter
one forty.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Any other poll questions, We've got one off of an
NBA Paul, Would.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
You like that? Dan?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Let me, you know, do a drive by here. Let
me see if there's something stick.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Should Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown part ways? This is
part of a larger Celtics question.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think okay, I would say no because there are
not many teams in the NBA who have players that
size in that talent. Now I know that it didn't
work out. Give credit to Philadelphia. Philadelphia figured out something
because they got blown out twice by over thirty points
in this series, and then all of a sudden, Jason
(06:30):
Tatum's not there to play and the Boston Celtics, even
though they're at home. Philadelphia was resilient and Joe Ellenbiid
played great. Tobias Harris come on down. The backcourt is
already really, really good. But that's one of those where
if you're not hitting your shots, and we saw this
with Boston, that's their mo These are playoff games. This
(06:53):
is in regular season where your three might not be
as contested, well, they weren't hitting their shots. Philadelphia. I
mean I watch Embiid and he just sort of moves.
I mean it's not quick, not fast. He's not jumping,
He's playing the angles. He knows where his sweet spots are.
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He put up thirty four points. And I think that's
the amazing part is eventually you see players who just
know how to play the game. They're not athletic as
far as end to end and jumping. This is where
you see the guy on the playground who might be
forty five years of age and he's the best player.
Why because he knows how to play basketball. Embiid can't
(07:37):
do what he once did. There's a Nikola Jokicic feel
to his game now not as skilled, but still to
be out there, to come back from surgery, all of
his surgeries, be able to play. And now you've got
Paul George. They both played thirty eight games, so they
are fresh, but they might not be completely healthy and
(08:01):
all the surgeries they've had and the injuries they've had.
But Philadelphia, and I said this to a couple of people,
I thought that the Knicks built their roster to beat Boston.
They didn't build their roster to beat the Sixers. That's
what I want to see with the matchup.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I know the Knicks are favored. They're favored by seven
and a half. Tonight, even Joel Embiid said hey, when
the series goes to Philadelphia, don't sell your tickets. I
can't imagine any other place that might say this. Any
other star athlete who would say, hey, whatever you do,
don't sell your tickets. The Eagles, they would never have
(08:43):
Jalen Hurts would never have to say, hey, don't sell
your tickets to the Giants. Here is Joel Embiid after
the win.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
I just have a message for our fans. Last time
we played the Knicks, it felt like I felt like
this was Madison Square gone the East. So we're gonna
need to support. You know, don't sell you tickets. We
need you guys that I'm most here that we've had
the last couple of games in Philly, especially the last
(09:13):
one pushing it to Game seven. I mean, we need
all of it. I don't care if it's seventy thirty.
You know, Snicks fans, they travel, They're going to buy
the tickets, and that's going to be you know, some
people that need the money, and I you know, probably
gonna sell tickets, but don't do it if you need money.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I got you, all right, all right, I got you.
But Jalen Brunson isn't saying this to Knick fans. Why
is it more important? Or it feels like it's more
important for the Knick fans than it is for the
Sixer fans. That's what kind of surprised me there. And granted,
you know we've seen, you know, home teams fans sell
their tickets, but this is Philadelphia. Well, this is Philadelphia.
(09:57):
It's different, yes, Martin, But.
Speaker 9 (09:59):
Knicks fans are to travel. That's a quick trip. That's
a quick train ride.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's a quick trip from Philly to New York. True,
but it's the same.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
But the Garden it's so expensive. I know that it's ridiculous.
I know that I'd rather take a train. It's gonna
be less expensive to take a train, get a hotel,
and get tickets to the Sixers than just a regular
old ticket to the Garden.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Okay, are you surprised that Embiid has to say to
Philly fans, don't sell your tickets. No, you're not.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
Surprised because he saw it two years ago that playoff series.
It was almost like the Hawks against the Knicks last
playoff series, where it was like, man, is this Madison
Square Gardener State Farm Arena. That's what it's gonna look
like in Philadelphia if they keep selling their tickets to
Knicks fans.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Poul Embiid also said Madison Square Garden East. I think
it would be South or West. I'm not an X man.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
He did everything right except for you know, the direction. Yes, Todd, I.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Think it's less shocking more sad that he has to
say something like that to me, like you have to
implore or plead with the fans to you know, show up,
don't sell the tickets to the Knicks man's.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's kind of weak.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Maga Ton. Yes, major city like Philly.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Philly is one of those fan bases though, where you
would expect, like playoffs for any of the major sports,
they're selling out all of them tickets.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yes, Yeah, I am surprised. Yeah, Like I get it.
If you're a Dolphins fan and you say, hey, don't
sell your tickets, you know, to Giants fans or Patriot
fans when they come down. I understand that, but you
would think Philly. That's an unbelievable fan base, you know,
the Dolphins, not necessarily, but it just kind of surprised
(11:37):
me a little bit. The other part of it was,
and I got to watch a lot of this series,
and because I thought Boston was going to go to
the Eastern Conference Finals. I thought they would go to
the NBA Finals. I really did. I thought everything the
pieces were kind of falling in place and they would
Tatum back. Jalen Brown did a wonderful job the entire year.
(12:00):
Then you started to see where Derek White's not quite
the Olympian we thought he was Peyton Pritchard. You know,
you just play off basketball and it's just a different
feel everything about it. And Jalen Brown was complaining after
the loss. After the end of the series, I'm going
(12:20):
to bring back some of the things that he had
to say after the loss, And I was a little
surprised because when you're up three to one, I didn't
hear him complaining about any officiating, or you're up three
to two, I didn't hear anything. And maybe I didn't
read everything in the Boston Globe or online, but all
(12:41):
of a sudden, you lose and now all of a
sudden you're complaining that there was an agenda embiide gets
to flop, which you can have two things be correct.
But I've never ever seen where when you complain publicly,
and he did during the regular season. He did say
that he can't get away with what other players can
(13:03):
get away with, offensive fouls that are called on him
when he raises his arm when he's trying to get
a shot off.
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Speaker 2 (13:50):
Picked up the New York Times magazine, Taylor Swift was
on the cover and I go, all right, I'll read
about Taylor Swift and it was the fifty Greatest Living
American Songwriters, and I thought, okay, I'll look at that.
And you go through and you see Bob Dylan is
in there, Carol King is in there and gave us
(14:12):
the great album Tapestry. You got Outcast in there, So
there's bad bunnies in there. There's a variety of artists
in there, and you're kind of going through. Stevie Wonders
in there, and you're going, okay, Bruce Springsteen, all right.
Then all of a sudden, I go, well, Hall and
(14:33):
Oates are still alive. I think they wrote most of
their music. And then I go, Billy Joel is still alive.
I think he wrote most of his music. They're not
in there. So the top fifty American Living American songwriters
is it top fifty or top thirty?
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Paul I got thirty.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh well, maybe they should have gone to fifty, so
then Billy Joel and Hallan Oates would have made that.
But I was kind of surprised at this list that
and some of the some of the artists I didn't know,
and some of them are just songwriters. But I did.
I was kind of surprised that Hall of Oates and
(15:14):
Billy Joel didn't make the cut.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Yeah, Paul, I'm reading the list, and I'm surprised with
Billy Joel because even if you don't like his music,
you can't argue with the success of his work for
you know, a ten year period. They did have a
PostScript article eleven great American Songwriters who didn't make our
list The New York Times. They did that because of
the reaction.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Well, who did they put in there?
Speaker 6 (15:36):
All the people you just named? It didn't make it,
like Billy Joel and the few.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Did Hall of Oates make their list of because I
don't I don't know if they wrote their music. I
know Billy Joel did.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Frank Ocean made it, Billy Joel did, Hall Notes did not.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh Well, to be fair to the list in New
York Times, I should check and see if Hall and
Oates actually wrote their music. Kendrick Lamar is in there.
You know, there's people that deserve to be in there.
It's just kind of surprising that you have the thirty
greatest living American songwriters and Billy Joel doesn't make that list. Yes,
(16:12):
Paul does.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
It matter if an artist writes his songs or her songs.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
James Taylor's not in there, is he? Because I think
James Taylor wrote his music. I'm not. I don't think
James Taylor is in there among the top thirty. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
I remember seeing an interview with Garth Brooks, the great
country star at his peak, and he even said, I
don't write the songs. I'm giving songs. I'm the performer.
And because people were asking, oh, you don't write your
own songs if it's a bad thing as well. You
know Robert de Niro doesn't write his own lines.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well there are Sinatra didn't write anything. I don't think.
I mean, I get it. There's certain artists that will
take what you give them and then make it theirs.
But did Chris Stapleton make it in among the greatest
living American songwriters. I don't know if Chris did. He's
(17:09):
written over a thousand songs. He's written songs where he
hands them out to other people. He said, Adele, he
wrote a song for Adele. This is he said. I
didn't even know who Adele was at the time, but
you know, he wrote a song for her, wrote a
song for Darius Ruck. I mean, he's written a lot
(17:29):
of songs. I would think that he would be in there.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Yes, Dylan, We've got Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton in there,
and young Thug.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And Willie Nelson should be in there. Willy is one
of the great songwriters of all time. And any list
that has Dolly Parton in I'm fine with that.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
Yes, Marvin, Yeah, Dolly Parton should just be in there alone,
just for writing Joelene and I Will Always Love You
in the same day.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Joline, I think Dolly talked about she eventually ran into
Joe Lene years later, and she said basically that Jolene
didn't hold up like Jolene didn't look like Joelene when
she wrote the song.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
Yeah, yes, Mark, there's pictures of young Dolly Parton, and
the question always is what did Joelene look like? Because
if you're leaving Dolly Parton for Joline had better been
top five, dead or alive.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, but this is Dolly talking about how beautiful Joelene was.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
I need a young need a young picture young Joelene.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
The magic had fired, Jamal Moseley, Here we go, so
Billy Donovan and I was told this a while ago
when it looked like he was going to leave the
Bulls that where would his two places be that he
would go to. One was Golden State and the other
one was the Orlando Magic. Well, the Magic make the playoffs.
(18:51):
They're playing well, Jamal Mosley is not going to get
fired if they end up winning that series and move on,
no matter what would happen that next round. But Billy Donovan,
maybe this time he does take the Orlando Magic job.
I did talk about the Sixers Joe llenb talking about
don't sell your tickets to the Knicks when they come
(19:12):
to town. Twenty twenty four, the Sixers ownership group bought
more than two thousand tickets during a first round playoff
series to keep them out of the hands of the
New York Knicks. Now, this time around, ticket sales will
be limited to those located in the quote Greater Philadelphia
area end quote. The team plans to make sure that
(19:34):
this is the case by confirming where you live based
on the credit card billing address of the purchaser to
make sure the Knicks are still going to get tickets. Yeah,
I mean, we're not fooling anybody here. You're going to
get your ticket and tickets and no matter what, you'll
probably sell them if you think you can make good money,
(19:55):
because then the nick folks are going to become in
and spending money here. So let's see best and worst
of the weekend phone calls coming up, Dylan, the poll
results from nunquer one and what are you going to
go with? An hour two?
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Our latest pulled in was would you take a triple
crown win if it meant being jockey height the rest
of your life? About sixty seven percent say no. For
the second hour going from Paully about the derby is
when it comes to winning a race, who should get
the most credit the horse, the jockey, the trainer or
the owner. Okay, and I would say I think the
(20:34):
trainer ends up getting a lot of the credit. They
tend to be the most famous, obviously, Secretary, There's been
famous horses, but the trainers who win tend to I think,
get associated the most with it.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Nile Rodgers is on this list of great songwriters, Lucinda
Williams is on here as a great songwriter, and most
of these people belong on this list, I would think,
but I still would be if you can see Todd,
you should know. Well, I don't know if you'll know,
but Stevie wonders on this, did hall of Oates write
(21:07):
their own music?
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Everything I'm looking at suggests that the majority were from
Hall of Oates, that Daryl Hall wrote a lot of them,
John Hoates did a few, there was some collaboration, there
was a woman named Sarah something that was part of it,
but that they supposedly wrote most of their own music.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Paul Simon is on here, Jay Z is on here. Obviously,
Taylor Swift is on here. I mean there's missy Ello's
on here, Lionel Richie, Okay, if you're putting Lionel Ritchie
on there, I gotta put Billy Joel on there. And
I think that there is a podcast on you know,
(21:43):
this topic, and I think somebody talked about Billy Joel's
music being schlocky. I think that was the word. But
I mean Lionel Ritchie had see. I don't want to
do this, come on now, no, I don't want to.
I don't want to be criticizing somebody to try to
lift up somebody else, but Lionel Richie, Billy Joel, Yes.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
Martin worst song, We didn't start the fire or dancing
on the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, let me ask Todd.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I would go with the we didn't start the fire
is not quite as good as dancing on the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Okay, yes, Paul.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
It feels like these New York Times lists and other
lists theyre kind of want you to be upset about
a snub. And maybe the Billy Joel snub is on purpose.
Because Fiona Apple made the list. She had a nice
little two year run. She was famous for a while
and had some cool songs. I don't know if she
had the impact or success of Billy Joel. I'm being
very fair.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I'm surprised Cheryl Crow is not on here. I mean,
she's a Hall of Famer, but Chris Stapleton did not
make it. Oh my god. I don't want to get
too caught up in it. I just I was surprised
at that. Yes, Dylan, I think we could agree.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
That Billie Joel and Lionel Richie are both kind of shlocky.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah they're together, Yeah, but I mean, nobody's written a
hit in whatever forty years. I don't think.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Yes, part of writing a song is making it successful,
not just being cool and hip or whatever like whatever
worked for Lionel Richie worked.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, and uh, Lionel Richie was Commodorees.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
He was.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah. I don't know how much he wrote for the Commodoores.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
I don't know. I mean, I'll take brick House if
I write brick House.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'm all right, yeah, yes, Ton.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
What did you think of Running with the Knight Playing
in the Shadows? That was a pretty cool song, Linel Richie.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I don't, I don't. I don't know if I'm familiar
with that.
Speaker 9 (23:48):
They were running with the Night, playing in the shadows,
just you and till the morning last.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Still not familiar, Okay, No, I mean, you know, maybe
they should have expanded it to fifty. All you gotta
do is be alive. All the notes, Billy Joel, They're alive, Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
I think there was a massive oversight here and that
Todd wasn't even considered for the list. He has written
numerous original songs.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
You know what, nub talking pis, let's get quizical, Yeah,
future bump your apple for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I don't know what the other one?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
All right?
Speaker 9 (24:30):
What questions that take that? Stevie Wonder Sports.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Radio conversation, your shot to answer it?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Just right?
Speaker 8 (24:39):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I mean, don't google. Let's just try to think it alright, alrighty, alrighty, Yes, Mark.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
To you, who's the greatest living songwriter just overall?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Dylan? Yeah, i'd say Dylan. He's still writing good music,
can't sing good music, but he still usually gets favorable
reviews for his music that he's still writing today. So
I would say Dylan with what he wrote, what it meant,
(25:16):
and it still continues to perform. Yes, Mark, I.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
Know your issue was some of these guys haven't written
hits in forty fifty years, but I think it's basically
at their apex they were just churning out just unbelievable songs. Correct.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yes, yes, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
That's like saying Jim Brown hasn't had a thousand yards season.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, but he's dead, so he couldn't be on the list. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
I love how it is that you get because during
the commercial break, I could hear you on the phone going, yeah,
did you see the list? You're talking to someone about
the way.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I was talking to my wife because I'm looking for
an audience at home, and you know the dog will listen,
but you know she can't respond. The he's not listening.
My daughters usually have their earbuds in, and then there's
my wife, and so I'm complaining about, like, how do
(26:10):
you not have Billy jo Like I don't understand that,
And then I started bringing up other names, and then
all of a sudden, I'm getting worked up and there's
really nobody to play off of. Yes, Marvin, so that
means the list did its job. Yeah, but I don't
like being toyed with like that. It's like when the
mother Ship had Michael Jordan the greatest college player of
(26:31):
all time. It was embarrassing. Even Mike would say, no way,
Leuel Sindor is the greatest college player of all time.
It's not even close. But it's like, we got to
get eyeballs on this, didn't. The WNBA just have something
about the top ten players and they put Caitlin Clark
(26:55):
on the page. And she's tenth on the list, So
you got to put her up there just so you
can tune. You know you're gonna read it bait and switch, click.
Bait and switch is what it is.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yes, Paul, I think I had the football comp to
the snub of Billy Joel. Should I say it or
do it?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Now?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I mean, is it worthy to go.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
No, it's not worthy that I would say Terry Bradshaw.
Terry Bradshaw never gets in conversations with great quarterbacks. But
if you look at the numbers for Super Bowls, and
he was responsible for a lot of getting him there
and winning, but he never gets discussed Billy Joel's success.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
You can't argue with Okay, who was better in the seventies,
Billy Joel, Jewel or Terry Bradshaw. That old question.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
That's a great one though. Yeah, I think it's fair
because Billy Joel's success. You may think it's hokey now,
but he was gigantic in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And he's dating Elle McPherson and Christy Brinkley reportedly at
the same time.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
His list is better than your list.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yes, but his his kiss on my list. There you go,
haul of Oes Todd.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
And Billy Joel is doing it by himself.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
You know, you got you know, he was like a
one man gang, So that I would lean towards. But
Terry Bradshaw had a terrible tow great defense, Steel Curtain
and Stalworth and Swan and Frank o' harris, Rocky.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Blyer, No no, we we know.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I'm just that's why Lean toy Stff the two Hockey ones,
I would go less hokey to Billy Joel.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I don't think Billy. I don't think Terry Bradshaw was hokey.
But the pause point about like what we you know,
putting those two together and making them analogous. It's because
of their hokiness that they would make an analogy between
those two being left out of things. Get Terry Bradshaw
and Billy Joel on the phone there in Todd, that
would be subject. Yeah, you'd be in heaven if.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
That would be a fantastic Billy.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I just want to say I I wanted to move
to Allentown because I wanted to live. I'm living here
in Allentown. I didn't start to fire U. I wanted
to play the piano.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I could sing the Pittsburgh song to Terry.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
Yeah, that'd be great, Yes, Marv, I could just hear Fritzy. Oh, Billy,
I've been a fan.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
For the longest time.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
I see what I did. It was a song for
the longest time.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Uh, Todd, I think you and me the only ones
you've seen Billy John concert.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I saw him multiple times.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, you saw him with Elton John.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I did. I sang with Elton John.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I saw him separately, I'd say at least three times
and it was great. And I saw him recently for
the last concert that he did. I don't know if
he's ever going to perform again because of health issues,
but I saw Hm at Mohegan's Son last February and
that was his last concert so far.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah. I got to see him at the Garden in
the same row with Christie Brinkley.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, and then they're, uh, let's see who do they have? Well,
his daughter sang yeah, Alexa. Yeah, Lexa came on stage.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
They put the boat on the stage too, which is
really weird how they want to put the whole yacht big.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
On the down Easter.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen to down Easter.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Alexa that you came on there on the boat and
they pulled it in with a rope.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
But don't you think if you're saying hey, Alexa and
then the Alexa thing comes on every time you're talking.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
To her, that would be problematic.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yes, how about we take a break.
Speaker 11 (30:19):
Yi yi?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, we're not doing this. H Yes. Well,
if this.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Were nineteen eighty seven, it would have been the greatest
Yes Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It'd be a great segment there.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
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Speaker 2 (30:51):
Jim Jackson, NBA College basketball analyst. Always great to have
Jim back. How are you feeling.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I'm good. I'm good. Just for you. I got up early.
You know, I'm on the West coast, so just let
you know that if we didn't have this really good relationship. No,
I mean, it's just I'm.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Just saying, Jim, it's eight thirty out there.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I mean, yeah, but I live in LA.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I mean, you know it's eight thirty in LA. It's
not thirty.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
That's early.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
It's not early.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Hey, No, it's early, it really is. I'm off season now,
so now I don't have to i don't have to
be up. So this is a strategic effort that I'm
giving you. Right now.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I'm about a round of applause for Jim Johnson.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Hero All right, come on now, can there you go?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
He got eight thirty.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
No, no, no, I didn't get up at eight. I
got up earlier to make sure I was ready. So
that means, you know, I had to get up.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
By the way, Your good buddy, Jason Kidd was on
the show last week, and you know what, you know
what he co signed on. Tell me that he sicked
out on that shooting contest when he was with the Maps,
that he what he remember he got sick? He didn't,
he didn't. I flew down to Dallas. I told you
the story. You didn't believe me, Marvin. Did Jason Kidd
(32:13):
admit that he was afraid to shoot against me when
he was with the.
Speaker 9 (32:17):
Map Jim, I know you think DP is lying, but
j Kidd confirmed his story.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Okay, but how did he say? It? Is the key
because he could just be plakating you to make sure
that you keep your prayer.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So that's so now you're calling Jason Kidd a liar.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
No, No, I said play kate. See see, I understand
that the language is that Jason is that kind of player,
I mean and coach. It's all about the team. It's
not about me. So if you say it, Jay's like Okay, yes, Dan,
you know what, I didn't want to get embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And that's basically what he said.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Jim, Yeah, that's see, and I said the same thing.
You see how it works.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, I'm just saying that you question me as a
journalist and that hurt.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Well, I questioned the one on one part and shooting
now I'm still I'm still waiting for that.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh no, I'm not playing in one on one. I'm
just shooting.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Well, you and I I'm not on that opportunity right now.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
You shouldn't be able to beat me. All right, let
me talk some basketball. I don't know what Jalen Brown
is talking about, but feels like you might get in
trouble for saying this about the referees in the playoffs.
Speaker 11 (33:35):
It clearly had an agenda, like maybe because I spoke
in those critical or the reps in the regular season.
So you know how they responded like, we're gonna call
every We're gonna we're gonna you're gonna lead the playoffs
and offensive fouls. That's how that was the response from
the officiating crew. You could clearly tell and I and
I've actually spoke to some reps and they said it was.
(33:56):
It was agenda going into each game. So anytime Jalen
brings his own up just from reputation, just call it.
Paul George does the same thing. Jaylen Brenston does the
same thing. Shit, I can go down the list. It's
a basketball player, whether y'all believe.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
It or not.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Okay, this isn't necessarily complaining. This is accusing Jim and
he's saying officials told him there was an agenda. What
do you make of this?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Well, it's tough because if that's a conversation he had,
it's set to dispute that. We don't know how accurate
or if it is really accurate. Jaden Brown hasn't been
one to accuse a player or rep of anything throughout
his career. So for him to come out and say
it now he's talking to an official, he made it.
(34:47):
The statement makes it seem like he saw to an
official that probably wasn't repping that game, maybe that he
has a relationship with, because he's talking about not just
that game, but how Jaylen Brown plays. So this is
something that an official told him that throughout the year
that they picked up on. That's a tendency that they're
(35:07):
gonna call. Okay, I don't I'm not gonna say I
don't see. I don't think that that's hard to believe. Okay,
But in this perspective, it's like the hardest thing to
do is to officiate the playoff games. Okay, And now
I'm talking to an official, head official the Orlando Detroit series.
(35:30):
How do you go into this game and how do
you look at it? Because it's so physical, you can
call every call you want. And the official told me said, listen,
the freedom of movement is what's important to us. To
off the ball stuff. Okay, when the ball is on
the weak side of the court, of guys coming off
the screen, how physical is a defender. That's what we
(35:52):
look at. Once you get to the basket, that's gonna dictate.
I mean, a file is a file. Once you get
to the basket, you have got to you gotta kind
of discern that. But what they were looking at was
more off ball movement, the screens, setting picks, how much
they defender, body hands are on an opponent. Those are
the things that I got from officials, and they look
(36:14):
at it in particular in the playoffs because they the
officials told me, was that they want to allow the
players to kind of dictate what happened. Now, a lot
of what Jalen talked about could be some things that
he heard during the course of the season. They lost
emotions the day after all of these things. So I
can't say that he's lining. I don't know, but I
do know, like.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Can't use the word you can't use the word agenda,
can't use.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
It and right up, yeah, when you when you use that,
that's a little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And I want to know the official. If I'm the commissioner,
tell me who these officials were that told you this,
then then we have a conversation. But this, I thought,
you know, what were you complaining when you were up
three games to one? Were you complaining when you're up
three games to two? You guys all would flop, you'll
sell a foul. I mean, there's part of that in
(37:06):
sports that they've acknowledged that they've rewarded that with a
lot of these guys. And if Embiid's flopping, Embiid's not
calling the foul against you when he he just flops,
it's up to the official, not Joel Embiid.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Wey, but he you know, like any player, you take
advantage of what the rule go. Okay, in that series,
the pre throw disparity wasn't there. They both shot about
nineteen to twenty pre throws a game. So it's now
like one side was shooting thirty and the other in
Boston was only shooting fifteen.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So I think a lot of times we as players
get into a situation, especially after a loss, and you
go back and look and said, well, this player is
getting called. Joel Embie always got those calls. Certain players
are always going to get certain calls. You Jaden Brown,
Jason Tingm gonna get certain pauls that other players don't get.
(38:01):
Now is it to the level that Jolan Beid may
get it? Maybe not, but the main players all I mean,
I don't care. I don't care what sport it is.
You know, in football, a quarterback may get hit a
little bit more or get a little bit less, and
they're going to get the benefit of it out just
depending on who that quarterback is, right it like it
(38:22):
or not. You know, it's in baseball, certain guys who
are hitters are not going to get strikes called. And
I'm not saying this right, but I don't think an
agenda to me now again, I don't think the word
like you said, the word agenda is a little bit
too harsh. But that's Jalen's feelings right, wrong or indifferent
(38:45):
based on the information that he's downloaded and got. So
a lot of times when you ask an athlete to
be honest and they give you an honest answer, then
you want to push back on it. Well, he's telling
you his story, his truth from what he said, he's
been okay.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But if I acknowledge if he's telling the truth, then
tell me the entire truth.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Tell me, tell you the name, tell you the name.
That's all exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Just tell me if they said there's an agenda. We're
talking to Jim Jackson, NBA analyst. What chance do you
give the Sixers against New York.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
I'll give them a big chance. This is a you know,
and the reason why is because I mean they got dudes, man,
they can play, They play hard, you know, Maxi, Paul
George is playing phenomenal basketball right now, Edgecombe, Kelly Oubra
and then of course you're allm B so you know,
in the playoffs, Dan, it's all about a lot of
things happen because of matchups. Cleveland Toronto, Toronto. You're like, well,
(39:44):
but link size athleticism able to defend at the rim.
That's the problem with Billy because you have matchew No
One from a matchup. Just think about the matchups, Okay,
from New York to Philly. Embiid and Maxi Force are
(40:04):
going to force New York defensively into different rotation which
are gonna open up other opportunities. They're not evenly talking
about Paul George when he gets gone. So you have
three individuals that you gotta lean to tilt the court to.
That's gonna cause you to get bodies off of bodies.
So now often to rebound, second shot opportunity open, spray
out threes, whether that's in transition or a half poor.
(40:26):
Often that's what Philadelphia does. And they put you in
that situation as a team because of those three individuals.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
And you don't have these back to back games. So
Embiid should be able to play in these games. And
Paul George, what chance chances do you give the Lakers
against Okase.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
With no Luca, can they get a game or two?
I mean Lebron And it's funny because with Austin Reeve's back,
he gives you that offensive punk right with Luca back,
if he gets back, they give you that offensive punch.
I mean, there's no question about that. But on the
flip side of that, their liabilities on the defensive end,
(41:09):
and once this Lakers team was able to do against Houston,
which is the perfect matchup in the first round again,
I'll go back to matchup. Houston Rockers were perfect for
the Lakers in that first round because not having a
playmaker at point Guardy Houston, not having Kevin Durant, despite
La not having Luca and Austin Reeves for bulk of
(41:29):
that series, it played out well, well, Okay, see is
a different animal because they attack you and approach you
in a totally different way, and they're gonna seek out mismatches.
So they're gonna seek out Austin Reeves even Lebron. Now
you add Luca to that, yes, he's gonna give you
thirty two points a game, But defensively is where there's
gonna there would be a drop off that in this
(41:52):
series against that team. What Oka see, things that you
got away with against Houston you can't get away with
against Okay. You just can't.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
What do you think, Steve Kirk should do if the
options are stay with the Golden State Warriors or go
to ESPN.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
That's not because it's so nuanced within what Steve has
been through and where he's at in his career. Because
on one end, it's like Papa Bitch, Papa Bitch wanted
to stay through Tim Duncan. We know we heard a
lot of that noise, Like when Tim Duncan retires, Pop
is out. Because they're tethered together, you know, in some
(42:33):
aspect well by Hooker, by Cruk, Steve is kind of
tethered to Draymon and also Step Step is like I
can go another three or four years, you know what
I'm saying and continue to play. But I'll tell you what,
it's a heck of a position to be. Think about it.
How many coaches who have been as successful as him,
that have struggled in the last couple of years still
(42:55):
have that opportunity to make that kind of decision from
the outside looking in, whatever the relationship is with the organization,
you can always have a backdrop and fall back to say,
I can be a coveted person that ESPN once, not
only once, but once to pay. That's a heck of
(43:17):
a position to be in. But I think he would
step that relationship. I think knowing Steve that he'll sit
down and talk to Step about what's next. Now I
think he's also tied to Draymond. If Steve Lee's I
think there may be a shift in culture and that
may affect Draymond Green on.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
What happens in the future.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
So a lot there's a lot of moving parts within
that dynamic. But I think he has to make a
decision sooner than later.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
How about a round of applause again for Jim Jianks
warrior here.
Speaker 5 (43:50):
You know last night of the Drop, it was, you know,
had a lot of stuff going on this weekend, and
you know I figured that, you know, coming on your show.
If I wasn't preparative prep, then you know, I can't
represent myself. So get got up earlier than the normal
to ensure that's just gonna happened.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
So incredible, But.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
That's what you do for the people that you really respect.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
You know, once again, round of put Jackson, thank you,
thank you, the warrior, the Mavericks. He's not a Golden
State warrior, He's a warrior.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
He just was though you know, one of my eighteen
thousand teams.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Thanks for getting up, No no problem, won't make you sleep.
That's Jim Jackson
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