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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Brian Rolla is the PGA Tours CEO, joining us on
the program. I apologize for our stupid discussion there. Let
me start out with maybe what sounds obvious, what's the
biggest hurdle facing the PGA Tour Brian.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I think the biggest hurdle.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Is how we take this momentum and this popularity we have.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Around the sport of golf and around the PGA Tour.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
And turn that into long term sustained success and stability.
So a lot of the work we're doing is not
only make it better for fans, both golf fans and
sports fans, but also built something that has lasting power
in a world that's changing all the time. That's and
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I don't think that's just a PGA Tour challenge. I
think that's a challenge for anybody in the sports business.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Quite frankly, is there anything positive that Live Tour did
for the PGA Tour.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, I've said this.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I think, you know, competition makes everybody stronger. I think,
you know, there was this a bit of a narrative
around that Live was in competition. It was it was
competing for people's attention and time and certainly competing for
players before.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I got here.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But I've said it often, this was a little bit
of golf had their AFL NFL moment.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
They just had it late.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
And is the NFL better because of the AFL NFL moment?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I think so. I don't think it's the modern NFL
without it.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
So I don't know if about the ABA NBA history,
but there's probably a parallel there.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
To be drawn. So I think I think they got
that right.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
And sort of push the PGA Tour to get better.
So yeah, I think that hads the satillasting impact.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
If you look at it. I don't know if the
Formula one model can work in golf where everybody is
showing up, the best are showing up at each event,
but how close can you get to that?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I think we can get close.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I think we're working hard on it, and we'll have
more to say about this in less than a month.
But it's clearly what fans want. This is not a
sport and we're not a tour where we're gonna put
guys under contract.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It's not in their DNA, it's not how it's built.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
And I think that's okay, But I do think we
can create a competitive model where the best show up,
and they show up because they want to play against
the best, and that they're working towards a postseason that
awards the best.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So I think we get getting close.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well we have a model or every single players in
every single event, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I don't think we need that.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I think we'll have we'll have a set of really
compelling tournaments where almost all the top one twenty guys
show up and they're competing in a competitive model.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
It's a lot easier to understand than.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Today talking to Brian roll Up, the PGA Tour CEO.
I've said this for years, where I thought the masters
could say we're going to give you a golf ball
to use when you come here to play. So and
you know how many of these courses around the world
that you know, distance, technology, equipment, and I don't know
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what input the PGA Tour has if let's say Augustus
says if you come there, you got to use our
golf ball, if any power over them.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well, I mean, I think you're getting to the golf
ball debate, which there's really a debate about distance and
even a finer point on it. It's a debate about
distance off the tee, I think is what really people
are talking about.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
And this is a debate.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I've learned since I've been here, not even quite a year,
and I'm still learning. I think there's two big questions
facing the golf world. One is distance a problem? And
when we say the golf world, I really mean professional golf.
Is distance the problem? Is it not good for the game?
Is it ruining the game? Is it making courses obsolete
or whatever you want to pick.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
That's open question number one.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
An open question number two is if it is, does
impacting the golf ball solve that problem? And I think
depending who you talk to in the golf world, the
answer to those questions are an open debate. I think,
in one hand, you've got courses that are shorter and older,
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and on the other hand, you have these athletes who
keep getting better every every year, and and you know,
that's great to see. And I think there's some people
on the side of the debate who say that's not
what golf should be. I think there's other people on
the side of the debate who say that's exactly what
golf is. And you know you don't make it the
one hundred and ten meters dash because you seeing volts
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really fast, and so I think I think it's very
much an open debate. I think what's really interesting Dan
is who have very strong feelings about it are the
guys who are doing this.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Every day, which are the professional golfers.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And they are, since I've been here, are inserting themselves
in this debate a little bit stronger than I think
I've seen historically.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But I think is I think it's I think it's
better for the golf world to have one set of rules.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
What makes it so great is you know, you and
I could go out here on eighteen at TPC Sawgrass
and spend all day trying to replicate Cam Young's three
hundred and seventy five yard t shot in the Players
Championship and never do it, and you gain it a
appreciation for that because you're playing with the same equipment
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under the same condition. So I think we'll see. I
think this debates far from over, but I think everyone's
trying to do the right thing.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
We like to see things that we've never seen before.
He liked to be fascinated like Wemby, Steph Curry, and
you need personalities. I look at Mike Trout with the Angels.
He was the best player in baseball, but people said, well,
he has no personality. Scotti Scheffler is not Tiger Woods
in personality in draw, but results might be.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
So.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I don't know how how can you as the CEO
encourage or bring out personality and how much would that
move the needle?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I think it. I mean I think it could move
the needle.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You know, people do love sports andality sports personalities in sports,
whether that's the loud guy, whether that's the guy he
just goes about doing his business quietly. I mean that
runs the gamut in sports. I do think professional golf
we can do better telling the stories. There's this, I
think there's been this false narrative around the sport of
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golf that a tournament where a competition only matters if
four guys are in it, and you could probably name
the four guys or five guys and whatever, everyone's list
is similar. When the reality is you look at any
given professional golf tournaut on the weekend and the difference
in winning or losing is a stroke or two over
four days, and the competitive parody of the sport of
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golf is incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
As good as Scotty is. Scotty can't win.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Every week, that's how much competitive parody there is out there.
I think we have to do better job telling the
stories about that, and I think we have to do
a better job in our telecasts, in our social media
content about telling the stories and showing the personalities.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Of these guys, because there's quite a bit and you
never see it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
One thing we did do I was here about a
month and a half and I called the NFL Films
guys and I said, hey, you know what we did
for Hard Knocks for decades, why don't we try it
at the Players Championship. Come down and might these guys
fall him around for four days and see what we get?
And it resulted in a show called Chasing Sunday, which
is you could watch it on YouTube, but it is
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a hard knocks look at the Players Tournament or Players Championship,
and you see personalities like in a way you've never
seen before. And so I think we just have to
do things like that to let people know who these
guys are, because they're pretty extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, and I was going to ask you about that,
trying to bring the NFL to the PGA Tour. Yeah,
how can you do that?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Well, Look, the NFL is one of one, like you, don't.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I mean, I think in this job, it would be
a mistake to say everything we did in the NFL
is going to work at the PGA Tour, or even
to say that professional football professional golf for the same thing.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
They're different, and that's a good thing, that's great. But
I do think there are things we learned at the
NFL that I was part of that I think we
can bring to professional golf. I think what we're talking
about is, you know, with the NFL, we obsessed about
the competitive product, like how do you make it better
on the field, And not only do you just think
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NonStop about making the game better, making the game better,
honoring tradition but not being overly bound by it. But
not only just do that once, but constantly do that.
I mean, we change rules every year for the for
the benefit of the sport, and I think that can
help here. I think, so this is this commitment to
innovation and just thinking like a fan and thinking about
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the product.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I think we're gonna do more of that here.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I think about how you present the sport on television
and media. We obsessed about that, and not only just
when the game was on, but also during.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
The week and in the offseason.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
And that's some of the things we're talking about. And
so I think, you know, some things we're talking about
when we talk about.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
The personality of the players. I think that's something we
can do. But you know, we we were.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
You know, we had a great saying at the NFL
is only the parano we'd survive. And I think that
just means you got to keep keep changing, keep innovating,
and I think we're trying to bring a little to
that here.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Can we do something about the piped in birds sounds, Brian,
Come on.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Honestly, I don't know a ton about the I don't
even know if that's a real thing.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Just listen to the Quail Hollow coverage and there was
a bird that followed the leaders the entire round.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Listen, you got to ask the guys in the truck
about that. I don't. I don't know about that CEO,
you got power, I don't listen. There's some things I
don't understand.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I don't I don't get in the production truck and
I don't know, you know the bird population in Charlotte,
North Carolina, or so I do have limits to what
I can do.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Uh the galleries, Uh issues, I know, we we have
waste management, we encourage that. But issues with and gambling, Uh,
you know it's a it's a vocal everybody knows prop bets.
You know, people are vocal there. People get angry too.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah. I think this is an issue for all sports.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Any sport you go to, there's a there's a fan
code of conduct, right, and maybe it varies from sports
to sport based on the tradition and and everything else,
but golf should be no different. I mean people, people
should share and be excited, but there's going to be
a line of inappropriate behavior that you know shouldn't be tolerated.
And that's no difference in the football game or baseball
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game everybody else anywhere else. And I also think the
issue of gambling in sports and integrity of the sports
has been an issue and let's let's let's be honest,
an issue. Way before league sports, gambling was legal in
this country. I mean this this is oldest time, and
so I think you just have to be really villigent
about those things and be in being willing to enforce
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it because you know, bad fan conduct or even much
much worse gambling scandal is is the first thing that
could negatively impact sports.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
And so listen, I.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Think there's always a line there, and I think, you know,
sports organizations should be always prepared to enforce whatever that
fan conduct is.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
What's your golf handicap?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Not good? Well, you know I would tell you worse, worse.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Since I took this job, I actually play a lot
less golf in this job than I did before. I
actually made this rule when I got here, is that
I wouldn't play golf for work, because that's probably a
pretty good rule anywhere you go. But in this industry,
you know, everybody wants to have a meeting and they're like,
let's go play golf and.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Have a meeting.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I'm like, well, why don't we just have the meeting
and giving my four hours back? Because golf is for
like what I do with my my my boys and my.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
My my girl on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So it's it's gotten worse, but I at some point
I'll come up rare and work on it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
If you've played golf against Roger Goodell, who wins Oh,
I think Roger beats.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
He's really good. He's good.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I've never I've never played with him, but but he
he's certainly been playing longer than I have.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
And he's a he's a he's a pretty good player.
He's too modest, he won't brag about him. He's a
good golfer.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, maybe he's taking those meetings on the golf course.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
No that that he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
You know, he doesn't. I worked with Roger long enough
to know. Yeah, he works hard. Uh, and so I don't.
I don't think he spends a lot of time on
the golf course.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Great to catch up with you, Brian. Good luck in
the job. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
All right, Dan, great to see you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Thanks for having me, Brian rolap PJ Tour CEO.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
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Speaker 2 (14:24):
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Speaker 7 (14:37):
Wait a minute, man, the storm you brew up last
time I was here?
Speaker 8 (14:45):
My goodness, what.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Was that about?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
When was that storm?
Speaker 8 (14:49):
I don't remember. I went from peace to war very quickly.
All us cooled, All is cooled off?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Okay? Is it just a incidents that when the Spurs
play well or Wenby plays well, the Spurs win. When
Sga plays well, the Thunder win.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Now the two best players of the team, they are
the head of the snake. I thought, Wendy just did
a fantastic job last night, just being aggressive. I know
some of his first few shots were like deep threes.
But it was the non hesitation in his game that
I liked. How sure he was, he came out, he's
let it fly. They were great, they were physical. If
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the Spurs play like that, it could be an interesting
game set.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And there's that I don't know who you played against,
where there's they're omnipresent, like you know they're there, and
they make you think consciously or subconsciously, they may get
a piece of this shot. Was there somebody that you
have I think.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
I think you have to give Gobert credit for that,
you know, I mean, I think that's actually one of
the things he did do well, or many things he
did well defensively, But when he was at like his prime,
Rudy was a guy that, whether he was blocking the
shot or not, when you drove to the basket, you
had to at least see where he was at, and.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
He altered shots that way.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
He has he had, you know, an impact on the
defensive side. So not to this level, we've never seen
it obviously. What Wenby does is just like I mean,
the Alien is the best nickname I think fitting for
this dude.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
But yeah, Rudy had a little bit of that for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Was there a market correction last night with SGA that
he only shoots three free throws.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
No, because I've seen, you know, I understand why people
feel this way, and I get it that when he
falls after every jump shot, it's it can be you know,
hard to watch and other things. But I've called games
this year where I've seen this guy make like fifteen
to twenty field goals in a game.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
He's unbelievable as a basketball player.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
So I thought they did a great job defending and
just coming out of the game with physicality, and they
took the win out of Okay. See Okaye hung around
for most of the game until that third quarter and
they just you know, they blew it wide open. And
I think you heard it after the game with Shay's interview,
He's like, I'm ready to go. I think these guys
were already I don't want to say they're planning for games, Devin,
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but I think they went into that game last night,
they put up a fight, and as soon as it
turned they're like, let's go get it at home. This
has been a tick for Tech series. These two teams
mirror each other. They do a lot of the same things.
Actually in every regard they're the same team.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
So this is the I mean, this has been the
best series all playoffs.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
And you know, I do feel if OKAC wins, they
have a stronger chance of winning the championship, whereas I
feel like a San Antonio wins, the Knicks could be
a thorn in their side in certain regards.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
And yeah, it's interesting how this will playoff.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, and I keep saying I hope the officials let
certain moments play on and not call. There's certain moments
where you just say, okay, you know, let's go. And
I see this more in the WNBA than I do
the NBA. It feels like they do stop. You know,
they're gonna give the benefit of the doubt. And if
I'm ASGA, I go searching for fouls. I don't stop.
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I don't want to apologize for winning.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, so I think we'll probably see him more aggressive
in game seven. You're at home. I would be surprised
if he doesn't shoot more than ten free throws on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
I uh, yeah, the aggression will definitely be up. And
in game seven, you go for it. You know, they
did a great job of surrounding him. You got to
corral SGA. You can't let him operate in space. He
has to continue to make the right play, uh, and
they're okay with that. You have to be willing with
Dort and Crusoe threes. I know Crusoe's playing out of
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his mind right now. We got to live with that though,
you know what I mean. Like Crusoe and Dort hit
five threes each, four threes. You know, hey, listen, shake
their hand, and we gave it our best. But like
giving him, like you said, room to operate in him
getting fourteen fifteen free throws, you're not gonna win that way.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
There's a proof history of.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
When he plays that well and plays at that level
and gets that many free throws, they win just about
damn near every time.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
So that he has to continue to play in crowded space.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
San Antonio did a fantastic job last night of doing
that and just being physical with them, throwing different bodies
at him. They had Carter Bryan on them, they had
a cell on him at one point. Obviously the main
guy's castle. You just continue just to just throw fresh
bodies at him, be physical. Hopefully he could wear down
a little bit. We'll see though, you know how his
game seven anything happened. Anything can happen.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Talking to Austin Rivers, NBC Sports analysts, when your dad
was coaching the Celtics, did you ever play pickup games
with those guys?
Speaker 7 (19:48):
Sometimes it was more so like one on ones, Like
I would play ones with guys before. This is when
I got a little bit older, because at that time,
I was like probably like ninth grade, you know, eighth
ninth grade when he was like a you know, towards
the prime years of Boston.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
So I could play a little bit. At that point.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
It was only a few years away from like, you know,
really being able to play.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
So, uh, those were good memories. I got some ones
in some of those guys, for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Anybody as intense as Kevin Garnet in your life.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
No, no, no, no, that's like peak intense.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
I don't think there's anybody I've ever played against their
scene in an NBA game be more intense uh than
Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
So that he used to always scare me, you know,
just be when I was young, and then obviously when
I became more of a fan of basketball, like I
was obsessed with his like just his aura, his his uh,
his tenacious you know, energy and what he brought to
that Celtics team. Then wait, Celtics team again, you could
you know, Paul Pierce was the guy, but KG was
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the spirit of that team, and yeah, playing against him
one on one was crazy.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Do you know that story?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Do you do you believe in analytics?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
I do?
Speaker 7 (20:58):
I do, I do, I don't. There's a difference between
believing in them and living by them. You know, I
believe in analytics. I'm not gonna full, full fledged pledge
to the point to where that only matters. There are
things that numbers don't show. There is an eye test,
there's a feel. You can watch a player and see
if he has feel for the game. There are things
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that analytics just don't show. So you can't live and
die by them. But they have to be a part
of your process, especially just with the way the game
has changed and how shooting has been implicated in just
team success.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
So yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, but it feels like these two teams that are
playing in the Western Conference finals aren't three point shooting teams.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
Correct? Correct?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
And I wonder we most leagues are copycat leagues. When
you see a team win a championship, you're like, oh,
maybe we can be the greatest show on turf like
the Saint Louis Rams, where we'll change our offense here.
I don't know if this changes in approach if you
know either one of these teams when the title, I
mean it helps having SGA and Wemby, but still their
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philosophy is not married to the three point shot.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
It's not, it's contradicted everything the game has continued to press.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
Right, I would say it's hard to copycat.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
You kind of nail on the head, and it's hard
to copycat a team that has an SGA who's, you know,
a generational scorer, and then obviously what Wemby is you
definitely can't replicate that, right, Both.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
These teams have hung their hat on being.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Deep and having guys that could play two way basketball.
All these teams have guys that can play both sides
of the ball. Darren Fox is not a bad defender.
He can play on both sides of the ball. Dylan
Harper can play on both sides of the ball. We
know what Castle can do on both sides of the ball.
We know Wemby can do. Carter Bryant comes in and
is mainly a defender. All these guys Vicel. All these
dudes can play both sides of the basketball. When you
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go to the World Thunder, it's the same thing. They
have eight or nine guys who are two way players.
We got so up in a rush of guys who
could just shoot that like teams just went and fountain
guys that can just shoot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
And the three and D term is thrown around loosely.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
There's a lot of guys who are attached three and
D and aren't even great defenders.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
The Thunder genuinely and San.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Antonio have two way players that they're not three and
D guys. They're just guys that can ball. So I
think to your point, yeah, you might see teams not
be so like, you know, harping on whether a guy
can shoot forty from three, if he's got talent, if
he can play, if he can compete, does he know
how to play, does he know how to move it
out the ball? That's another thing. All these teams are unselfish.
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He's how the ball pops around. The premier both teams
obviously shaves the scorer, so he's gonna shoot a lot
of shots, but that ball flies around when it's not
in his hands, and it's the same thing with San Antonio,
you know. So I think that is what we're gonna see,
being more of a copycat.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
People talked about the purity of basketball being lost.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
I do think we're going back to an era of
the ball moving around more of like the Lucas, you know,
the Trey Young's. All these guys are remarkable players, right,
but that style of play where you're dribbling like the
air of the ball, you just don't with the exception
of Shay, the ball really pops.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
And you're seeing that with a lot of these teams.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Indiana was kind of a secret to that last year
when they popped up so multiple guys that can put
the ball on the floor, multiple guys that could defend.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
If I said you had to get it too, and
I'm gonna you pick and the guy still left. If
I give you a brunch in an SGA, you need
it too. Game on the line, you needed to.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Man, that's so tough.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Man Brunton's so damn good down the stretch man, It's
like it's impossible to like not pick him just because
what we've seen. And yet I still I have to
go with the guy Who's I gotta go to the
MVP man.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
For multitude of reasons, it's close for us off.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
There's no wrong answer because Brunton is probably my favorite
player in the NBA just folt work.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
But Shae's taller, can.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Always get a shot off no matter what not that
you see, brunsdon get a shot blocked at any time,
but Shae can at least get a shot off whenever.
And I know with the foul baiting stuff, at the
very worst, I'm getting maybe two free throws with the guy.
You know what I'm saying, Like he's gonna get a
clean look or he's getting to the line. So that's
that's where I would have to probably just go Shay.
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I think they're one and two in the NBA in
terms of clutch?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Are you and Draymond? Okay? Now, I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
You know what, man, me and him have always had
like a little you know whatever when we played, we'd
always talk a lot versus each other for whatever reason.
We'd extra then like somebody else, and that no surprise
carried over to to the events following your show. And Dan,
I don't wish any negativity upon him. I wish him
(25:59):
all the best in his life. I stand by everything
I said. Uh, I don't take anything back.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
But you were being an analyst. He was being personal.
That's correct.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
That's how he responds.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
You know, like when we talk basketball, I'll talk about
black and white, he'll go personal.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
It's like when Chuck said, you know, how are you
guys gonna.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Uh uh, you know you guys are getting older, how
are you guys gonna defeat father time? You know what's
the plan? Well, the plan is not to look like
you know, Houston Jert, It wasn't. He never responded to
the question. Yeah, he went personal with Chuck.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
You know, say, that's what he does. He goes personal.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
So when I woke up the next day or two
days later and had a full on three minute video
about myself, just dissecting my career, I was just like,
you know what, and I I responded with my video
and that did what it did.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
But you know, I still kept it. I still kept
it light.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
I could have went, I could have went, you know
what I mean like, that's that I don't like to
be messy, and that's not who I am.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
I have respect for Draymond despite whatever we feel about
each other. But yeah, I still buy when I said change.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Well, you can be all defense, but he's all defensive.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
I mean my main point was, like, I've never heard
Dennis Robin be like you know, Phil, I wish I
was more of a focal point in the offense.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
You know he was.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Dennis Robbin is a Hall of Famer for what he
did in his role. He was a superstar in his role.
Don't get that confused with being the superstar. There's a difference, right,
That's common sense. That's all I was alluding to when
he said to Steve Kerr comments, he obviously got in
his feels and went personal instead of responding to what
I said. We all know what I said was the
truth because that's the reality of the situation, and he
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has nothing to be ashamed of. That's why he's in
the Hall of Fame, man, that's why he's made over
two hundred million dollars. You know, he should be smiling
and be happy that he's had such a great career
and that he's done great things for the game of
basketball instead of like trying to fight who he is.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
That's you know, it's all good, man. So we all
have those those identity issues, you know, saying you know,
you know what I mean? Man, It's all good, bro.
I got down with love and respect.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
He's reached height set every basketball player, including myself in
terms of being a Hall of famer, dreams of being
so respect to him, and uh yeah that's that.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Okay. I didn't get you in trouble. Nothing's blowing up
this time around. It's all good.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
You and you.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Did your job. You you were analytical. That's the hard
part for players with former players, like what are you doing?
Like how you know? You know what it's like to
you know, all of those things. But yeah, you're doing
a great job. You're doing a great jump. He's at
Austin Rivers, NBC Sports channelst great to talk to you again.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Thank you, Buy always anytime, anytime.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
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Speaker 2 (28:42):
Oh look at who's a big time actor now? Nate
BURGETSI old friend Breadwinner opens today. Wow.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I never thought I'd introduce you as movie star, but
uh well, congratulations, Thank you brother.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Look at a decent two, five, five, eight, going shorter,
non pop eleven not. But I know, dude, it's crazy.
Look I'm following your footsteps. I mean, I wanted to know,
how would you fill on opening weekends?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, be a wreck. Sandler would make me nervous because
he would always say, Danny, you hearing anything I go.
You're in Hollywood, Sandler. But I remember when the totals
for the first weekend of Longest Yard came out and
it was like eighty million, and Sandler was relieved because
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I don't know if you're going to have joy or relief,
let's say, on Sunday or Monday when you get that
first weekend box office numbers.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
I mean, really it both Well, it depends, Yeah, I
guess it really depends. I don't know. Those are the
two things. It's either going to be joy, relief or
jump off the building. So it's one of the ones.
I guess that's the relief part.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Main difference between stand up and acting.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
The preparation. I mean, I just a lot of pressurations
to stand up, but it's you. You do it over
time because you're doing so many shows, so you're saying
the same stuff and you're kind of putting in words
and here and there and changing little things and you
get to do it over, especially before you type. It's special.
So there's a where a movie is like it's this day,
it's this scene they jump around in their movie. I
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mean they told me that, you know, when I first
came to like it's you know, you don't shoot a
movie in order, which I kind of knew, but then
it's creat like are you know the first day you're
doing some scene that's at the end of the movie
and you're it was wild.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
I thought, why.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Would you not just shoot it in order? But I
guess they know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
But are you so you you don't have that immediate
reaction when you do your stand up, but are you
looking for reaction from the crew camera people like you need?
You need that you're used to that feedback.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Oh dude, I'll walk to cater and see if they
heard the joke I just said. I mean, I'll go,
I'll go walk. It's brutal because you say something and
then no one can laugh and then they already get done.
The crew could be really good about it, so that's
too because they can then't laugh like actress or You're like,
but I mean, yes, sometimes I will. I would walk
outside of it. You see it. You hear that. He's
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just constantly doing that. That's pretty good joke, right, And
everybody's like yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And you're like okay, uh,
you know, because I poured my heart out there on
that one.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But it's different than the audience that's showing up. They're
ready to laugh. The guys on the crew aren't showing
up ready to laugh. They have to do their job.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
They do, and but that's the heart that's been the
hardest thing. It's because it's you know, we started taping
last summer, which is which is both really quick for
a movie to come out, you know, but I mean,
like I can't even imagine like when people are waiting
three years or something for a movie to come up,
like just having to sit there and being like what's
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going to happen?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Like uh, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
I mean, yeah, that's been the hardest part. But I mean, luckily,
I've showed this weekend, so I've been doing shows and
so trying to at least hearing some laughs.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
We're talking to Nate Margatse. The movie is The Breadwinner
opens today. He's encouraging theaters to charge a significantly reduced
NATE rate to make going to see it more affordable.
Also upcoming tour dates Knoxville, Birmingham, Savannah, Greensboro, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, Phoenix,
San Jose, and San Diego. How much did you write
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of this movie?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
A lot of it's like with my stand up, So
I would say it's think it was like a mix
of just you know, almost like my stand up and
a lot of stuff as went through it, and then
Dan Leghana would go and you know, kind of put
it all together. But I mean, look, Leghana definitely was
the one that had to sit and uh he's a
(33:16):
has written scripts and all it, so he said and
did that. So it's but it's it's heavily you know,
there's there's a lot of stuff in there that's like
kind of from my stand up and then we kind
of molded it together. But Dan definitely had to do
more of the heavy lifting on the writing part of it.
It was nice to write it because I could control
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what I say, Like there's no crying. I wasn't gonna
you know, I wasn't putting any kind of like saying
that I was like, I don't look like.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
An idiot, you know, like no crying.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Uh. I was starting to know, like big laughing for me,
Like I didn't know if I could take that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So I was very well, let me hear, let me
hear your fake laugh.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
You already heard it earlier.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Thank you God. That's here's mine.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
That's what I heard all night when I was, when
I thought in New.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
York, that's true. You're gonna hear me fay last all
the time I.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Was, that's all I heard from the crowd. I go,
he loved it. That's my mom. When I got, I go,
Dan loved it.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Nate was killing it out there. Who tells you when
when you're not funny?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
My daughter, My daughter is quick to it and tell
me it's not funny. She'd always go, well that's an
adult joke, and I'm making She's thirteen. Now you're like,
well you're thirteen. You get and then helped he get defensive.
I go, you get the idea of why people would
like it, won't you like? You know, like, uh, it's brutal.
(34:53):
Comics Comics are not They can laugh, but comics can
very much be. They just scare at you. And they'll
be like, yeah, dude, that's great. Like Conan Conan O'Brien
talked about that one time, An exactly that you're told
joke to a comic and I'll do it to you.
Someone tell me I'm not a great laugh at and
sometimes they joke, but you can tell me a joke
and I'll be like, that's the best joke I've ever
(35:15):
heard in my life. And it'll be that it sounds
like I hate you, but I'm honestly like, that's the
I'm like, that's the best joke I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
But I hate when somebody goes, oh, that's funny. I
don't go yeah, then why didn't you laugh. I don't
want you to say, oh, that's funny. Well, funny to
me is laughing.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
I mean I do do that too, where I go, oh,
that's funny, and then it's been great. You hear it.
Look in this tone, it'd be like, oh that's funny. Man.
Like as a comic, that would be it's really funny.
If you're talking to something else you're like, oh, that's funny.
You say a little bit quicker. That's they don't take
it's funny. It's like what You're like, what do you
want them to do? They got to get out of
(35:59):
the situation, so they just go it's funny, and then
they're trying to get to the door.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I always wondered about how, you know, musicians get to
play the same songs over and over and over. Billy
Joel can play you know, panel Man until he's one
hundred Springsteen, But how often can you bring something back
on a new tour, not your current tour, because I
know you're doing pretty much same thing every night.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Look, if I had it easy, Billy Joel, it'd be nice.
Uh I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
That's a real Joel. Oh sorry, Oh that's fun.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Yeah. Yeah, if I had it as easy as Bruce
Springsting brother, I would be easy. Yeah. Uh, you can't.
It's the the hard part is it leaves your mind,
you know, do you you you've probably had this like sport,
do you have like any like so many sports where
everybody's like, did you enjoy that like finals or whatever
(36:57):
that you were able to go to, And you're like,
I don't remember going because you kind of just have
to keep moving. You're doing so much stuff that's like
kind of crazy, so you kind of got to keep
moving it. It's like that with stand up, Like once
once I get done tape in a special, which for
worth next week, I'm taping my special, and so once
I get done tape in it, it's like my brain
(37:18):
is on like panic mode to find a new to
build a new hour. And then once you shed an
old thing, it gets pretty hard to remember it. Like
I couldn't do it. I don't. I would have to
go listen to my last special to see if I
could do a joke from there. I couldn't do one
off top because I it just you got to like
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empty your brain so you can get new stuff in there.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Any actors, comedians you sought advice on doing this movie?
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Yeah, I talked to it. Well it was it was cool,
So I got to talk to h I did talk
to Sandler. We're at S and L fifty. I was
able to talk to him. He was He was very
wonderful about it, like just you know, saying, you know,
just he's like just be there every day just to
see what's going on and all this, Uh, like the
Big Ones. Wahlberg was someone that I've got to know
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and able to talk to him something about it. But
I had Kamil Najianni on in the movie, and he
was He's someone I started comedy with, so like my
first day he was there, which was nice because it's
like I know him, and you know, it was just
he's just very He's very positive, very, you know, going
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like no, it's great, it's great, it's all this. So
I mean he would like him, I would have. And
Colin Jost also, he was so funny in it, and
Colin was you know, Colin would come and he gets
he I mean, he's you know, the week, he's a writer,
so like he comes in and like would have like lines.
He would text me like like hey, I thought about this,
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he could say in the movie, like just extremely helpful.
Keep thinking about it on the outside, you know, even
when he wasn't on set, he would think about it
just to you know, any of the lives, any stuff
he can make better. But yeah, I went to relying
on those guys and just I put myself around people
I know, and then like Nandy and the girls, the
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daughters we have in it are so good and they
became like sisters on set, and I think that helps,
like once you you know, once they they feel like
their sisters. So then it helps you feel like their
dad because they're just year around them so much and
they're very fun.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Could you see yourself doing a love scene?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I mean not right.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
I don't think not like. I don't think like, you know,
not white lotus, though I don't see it going.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
You know, it would be extremely white lotus.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
He would be extremely like Dan, I think you've been
edgier than I will be in a movie.
Speaker 8 (39:58):
So I know that.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
But I I Sandler just he tries to put me
in the most awkward positions and he thinks it's funny,
and I'm I'm a fool, and I go, okay, I'll
do that, sand Man. And then you know, like he
had me kiss he had me kiss uh what was
her name?
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
What was her name? Paul Wendy mcclennon. Uh, yeah, Covey McLendon.
And and I it wasn't in the script. Nate and
I show up on set and my my daughter was
working as a runner on the set, and all of
a sudden, Sandler goes, Danny, Danny, why don't you kiss her?
She was my wife in the movie. Yeah, And I go,
(40:40):
what's not it's not in the script sand Man, he goes,
I know, Danny, just I want you to kiss her.
So I kiss her. My daughter walks by and she's mortified.
We get done with the scene and she goes, are
you going to tell mom? I go, yes, I'm going
to tell mom. And I said to Sandman, I said,
what was it? He goes, Danny, it's acting. I said, okay.
(41:01):
I mean I kept saying, let's do more takes. I mean,
I don't know if that was unprofessional.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always would like to say, you go,
if you're like, even if you're not going to kiss,
you go, let's just get it on tape. And so
we have it and then we'll see what happens. Uh,
but it's yeah, it feel this day. First day I
had to kiss Mandy, and I mean we kiss like
you kiss you like a little kiss your wife when
you go goodbye, like you know, it wasn't like anything big.
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But my wife of course comes that day and then
you're like that boy, and then it was funny. We
went to the premiere and so my wife and my
daughter is sitting with us, and then they kiss on
uh you know, shows the kiss in the movie. And
then my wife, my daughter leans over to my wife
and she goes, you're jealous.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I had I used tongue though in my scene that
was that was probably unpersund Yeah, yeah, yeah, Daniel, Daniel
day Lewis Patrick, that's me. Yeah, all right. So the
bread Winner, big movie star, Nate Barghetzi and uh it's
open today and he's encouraging the rate. Uh so, so
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he has a good weekend where he can exhale and
he can be very proud. And you can see him
on the road as well. Knoxville, Birmingham, Savannah, Greensboro, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, Phoenix,
San Diego, San Jose. He'll come to your backyard, He'll
he'll perform anywhere.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
That's I expect you to be at all those shows too, will.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Be Oh are you going to go to Tamhoe again
this year?
Speaker 5 (42:37):
I am a y gole be there. Yeah, yeah, all right,
I'll see tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Good luck this weekend, dude.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
I appreciate it, man, thanks for having me. As always,
I love you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
That's Nate Brghetesi. He's a big deal.