June 5, 2026 • 46 mins
Guest host Chris Mannix and the Danettes preview Game 2 of the NBA Finals later tonight. NBA analyst Brendan Haywood reminisces about winning the NBA Finals and explains how the Knicks can try to contain Victor Wembanyama. Senior NBA writer Sam Amick discusses the mounting pressure on San Antonio to win Game 2 and touches on Giannis Antetokounmpo's potential trade destinations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome to the program, Dan Patrick's Show. Chris Mannix filling
in this Friday for DP.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's right, boys, I'm back. Good to see you guys.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Been a minute.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I was thinking about this before it came in.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Had to have been at least six years before the
pandemic when I was last sitting in this chair.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Pearl Off, you're looking great back there, thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Chris.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Like the beard seating, you're doing something with your hair
these days.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
That's little tan.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Also, little little.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Tan a little bit darker. Good to see all you guys.
PAULI had a great talk with you. Always good to
catch up. Yeah, I'm checking my notes here. I got
April of nineteen the last time you were in the
big chair.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Okay, well so yeah good almost seven years.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Now, Wow, long time been doing anything.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh look you guys, did you know you won your
separate ways with other NBA people for a while. But
like I'm like Thanos, you just you always come back
to me.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm in a president, I'm the president.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Always back there. Great, Great to catch up with you, Paulie,
my Vermont neighbor. We talked for a good five six minutes,
and then Fritzie came in and gave me one quick
half hug, turned around and went away. It was hey,
how's life. Chris said, good, you turned around.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You left my minimal kindness. Then we like to joke about. Yeah, Paul,
he walked up to you.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
He hadn't seen you in seven years, and he goes, hey,
how's life. And as he's saying the word life, he's
turning back, turning his head to you and going back
to his little coat.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Very busy, very busy guy.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I stepped out of the studio for a moment.
He followed up with everything good. I was the follow
up from fritzyecton.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Minimum kindness, kind of minimum interest. Do I give him
credit for that?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Like, didn't seem to have any interest in hearing about
what was going on in my life.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, Paul, Now you've been a part of the show
for a long long time. You've been our NBA guy boxing.
You've hosted at least seven or eight times I think
over the years. But a lot of changes for you
the past five years.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
A lot of changes. I am mostly a Californian now
I live out in Los Angeles, got married a couple
of years ago and had a kid six months ago
to the day. My son six months old today, Big
day for young Miles mannixs Manick, Miles Manni six months old.
He's like thirty pounds, he's massive, He's got my height.
(02:17):
Hopefully he's got my wife's athleticism. She's a people that
don't know, former professional boxer, and yeah she's she's got
the athleticism in the family. But excited to be back
here with you, guys. Looking forward to being here with
you over the next three hours. Looking forward to Game
two of the NBA Finals tonight, ABC Spurs and Nick
Spurs down zero down, one game to none to the
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Game one, we saw the San Antonio Spurs get punched
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in the mouth. They had the fourteen point lead in
the third quarter, they blew it. They rallied to take
the one point lead in the fourth quarter, and they
blew it. Now we see what the Spurs are made
of in a series like this. Now we see if
they can punch back. We'll see if Victor Webbin Yama
can punch back when Banyama stat line look great in
(03:25):
Game one, twenty six points, twelve rebounds, but he was
six of twenty one from the floor. He settled for
way too many jump shots in this game. He was
part of a defense that allowed the Knicks to score
fifty points in the paint. How many times has a
Victor Webbin Yama led defense given up fifty points in
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the paint?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
At times?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
During Game one, he was flat out outplayed by Karl
Anthony Towns, and I don't think he responded well physically
to that matchup. That can't happen again. The Spurs are
not winning this series unless Victor Webbin Yama is the
best player on the floor. I don't think that's too
hot to take. But they're not win the series unless
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he's number one. He also can't do it without some help.
And when I'm talking about help, I'm looking directly at
Daron Fox. I'm looking at the two time All Star,
the former Clutch Player of the Year, who was flat
out awful in Game one, three or thirteen from the
floor seven points, three turnovers, five fouls. This was a
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guy that the Spurs traded for to be the number
two option on the team. He was brought in from Sacramento.
He was expected to be the veteran presence, the guy
alongside Wemby. He has not been that for most of
the postseason. Had a great Game seven against Oklahoma City
helped them get to the finals, but other than that,
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he has not been consistent. Played thirty eight minutes in
Game one. He can't be playing that many minutes if
he's this ineffective. Played eleven plus minutes in the fourth quarter.
Can't be playing that ma minutes If is this ineffective.
The guy that needs to be playing the rookie Dylan Harper.
Dylan Harper needs to be getting those minutes. Harper played
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twenty eight minutes in the opener. If d Aaron Fox
gets off to the kind of start we saw him
get off to in Game two, those numbers needs to
be flipped. I mean, it's strange to say, but the
two time All Star, former Clutch Player of the Year
should not be playing over the twenty year old rookie,
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not the way Fox is playing now. We know he's
got the ankle injury that's obviously inhibited him during the postseason,
but it's not time to trust the veteran in this situation.
It's time to play the best players that If d
Aaron Fox is not playing like that, then you can't play.
He's shooting forty two percent from the full or in
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the playoffs he's shooting under thirty percent from three. The
leash on Daron Fox needs to be really short going
into this game too.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, Paul, second of Game one, I think the Spurs
had twenty one points in the third, nineteen and the fourth.
Is it anything more than just being tired compared to
the Knicks not being tired or was there.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Flaws with their attack?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I think fatigue was a factor, especially for Webbin Yama
two for nine from three point range.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
That tells me that his legs weren't all the way there.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Watching that first quarter, you know, within the first five
or six minutes, there were moments where Webbin Yama was
grabbing his knees and that's not something that's encouraging if
you're San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Look, he's a unicorn. He's a unique player. The fact
that he's seven.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Foot four and can pull up from twenty eight feet
that is a valuable asset.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
But you also need him in the paint.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You also need him drawing fouls on Karl Anthony town
So I think in the third quarter when he got
out of the locker room, I think, what Towns picked
up three fouls in the first like five six minutes
the third quarter. That's the guy we need to see
for the first twenty four minutes of this game. He's
got to be more in the paint. I do think
fatigue was a factor in this one, and I'm not
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sure that gets much better with less than forty eight
hours of rest. But Ween bin Yama's got to be
more in the paint.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah, Brunson got all the coverage from game one. How
good was Karl Anthony Towns?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You cover the sport He was great.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He was great, and Kat takes a lot of flak.
I mean it was like less than a year ago
we were having a conversation about trading Cat for Janstan Decompo.
You know, before the start of these playoffs, we're probably
having the same conversation. Hell down to one against the Hawks,
We're probably having that conversation. But here we are, And
I don't think the Knicks would trade Cat for Janna
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straight up right now, the way.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
He's playing, not right now, not up one zip.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, Dylan, do you think Kat's performance looks even better
in comparison to chets.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Chet?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
My apologies, Yes, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's bad because everybody's looking at it and saying, hey,
that's the way chet Holmgren needs to play now. There
are there are physical differences to the two, right Like,
Kat's a grown man. Kat is a full fledged power
forward slash center who is comfortable going to the bask
He's a thirty year old man.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Jet Holmgren's in his early twenties. Jet Holmgren is still
filling out his frame.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He's probably he's never gonna be as big as Carl Town's,
but he can get ten fifteen more pounds on that frame.
But more than anything, like, it's the mental part of
it for chet Holmgren, like Towns looks at Wembin Yama
and says, I'm going right at you, does not hesitate
for a second. Jet Holmgren and looks at Webbin Yama
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and looks like he saw a ghost.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, PAULI I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
A guy like Karl Anthony Towns, he actually thinks he's
as good or better than Wemby, whether he is or not,
but he believes it that way. And Holmgren felt like
he was he was done before the halftime. It felt
like he was receding back and trying to stay out
of the moment.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, Holmgren, I would compare it to a professional boxer
that goes up against someone that kicked their butt in
the amateur rank a lot where it's like you and
this matchup with wen Benyama has been dating back to
international tournaments, like they have a history there. And while
Chet's teams have been successful in some of these tournaments,
wem ben Yama has been the better player. So I
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think Chet's got it in his head that he's just
not on that level.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, Marvin. And does Chet also think, Man, this guy's
better than me and he hates me. I mean, it's true,
he does not like me. He does.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He's not a fan like when and Wemby. One of
the things I love the most about wemby is. He
walks the walk, and he also talks the talk. Like
a lot of guys after playing certain players or playing
at a certain level, they'll be humble about it. Jalen Brunson,
after a great finish to game one, didn't say much
after game two. When wem ben Yama has a big game,
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he talks about it. When wem ben Yama wants to
win it, wants to win MVP, he's selling himself for it.
He's out there trying to let the voters know that
he belongs in that category. I think the stuff with
Chet is as much mental.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
As it is physical.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I think he shrinks in that moment, and that is
priority number one for Oklahoma City going into next year.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah, Paul, I got a couple fallout questions for you
from game one. You don't think that Johnson, the coach
of the Spurs benches Deyaron Fox, do you benches not benches?
That's the wrong word. Does not start and maybe start.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Now he'll start him. But I think this is a
very short least. And this is interesting because I think
for these coaches it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Is a chess match.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I thought Mike Brown got the better of Mitch Johnson
in Game one. I think he surprised him with some
of these matchups. I mean, going into the series, I
think the conventional wisdom, and I talked to a lot
of former coaches other coaches about this, the conventional wisdom was,
you play web Binyama with Ogannanobi.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He is the six foot eight, sturdy guy.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Smaller players have had some level of success against web Banyama.
Kat doesn't have this great history as a defensive player.
I think they were caught off guard by Kat getting
this start on Wemby and then Mitchell Robinson getting some
of the reps. They went big on Victor Webman Yamba,
and now it's going to be on Mitch Johnson to
make that adjustment. It's play calling, it's design, it's everything.
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They also have to be more physical with Jalen Bronson.
This was a big takeaway for me from the game
was what were some of the reasons that the Spurs
knocked off Oklahoma City. One of the biggest ones was
how physical they were with Shae Gildis Alexander. They were
picking him up almost full court. Steph Castle was getting
minutes on him, he was staying on him. You saw
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Carter Bryant get like ten good minutes of hounding him.
You would body slam him in some of these games.
Like they were physical with Shae, they were tough with Shae.
We didn't see that same level of physicality or that
same attention paid.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
To Jalen Brunson in this game.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
They didn't shift as often as I thought they should
their defenses towards him. They didn't bump him as much
as they should. And the guards, they weren't fighting over
screens to get through. Look, if you look, I saw
some of the numbers for this when Jalen Brunson was
lined up with Devin Vessel and when he was lined
up with Carter Bryant or Julian Champagne, like he was
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getting off. He was getting his numbers when he was
lined up with Castle, when he was lined up with Harper,
even when he was lined up with Fox, he wasn't
as effective. He wasn't as efficient. That comes down to
getting over screens. You have got to fight through these screens,
not let Jalen Brunson match up. Hunt as much as
he wants to. That's what he does as well as
any guard in this league. He hunts these matchups and
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when he gets them, he takes advantage of them.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You can't let him do that, Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Right after the game, Jalen Brunson went up to the referee,
Scott Foster and was complaining. We heard yesterday from Chris Haynes.
He was complaining about something in the crowd or some
people in the crowd, anymore fall out from the NBA
or the Knicks about that.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You know they're investigating, is what I was told.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
As of late last night, I have not been told
yet exactly what was said, and I think that is
the ballgame here. Like I think, if you're sitting courtside,
you're allowed to say certain things. You're allowed to call
someone a flopper, You're allowed to heckle on a certain level.
You're certainly not allowed to cross lines. You can't cross
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lines and use vulgarity. You can't bring up somebody's family.
If you do that, you're out, simple as that. So
I don't know what happened there. It was interesting to
see him going up to Scott Foster because in the moment,
I thought he was going after Scott Foster, like everybody
thinks they're going to Scott Foster.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Is the most polarizing referee in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
For those who don't know why.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's mostly his Well, look, he's very visible and his
few with Chris Paul has taken him to a different
level that has made him the face of kind of
in the same way that like Dick Bavetta, was well
known as a referee for people that were fans of
the NBA in the nineties early two thousand, Scott Foster
has taken on that. There's also the association with Tim
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Donneghey from back in the day. He was a close
friend of Donegie and that kind of got the rock
rolling down the mountain there and make peeple pay a
lot more attention to Chris Paul.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Look at you being careful with the Scott.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
There's no I know, there were no evidence to suggest
that Scott Foster was involved anything, but he's very polarizing.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Do you what do you expect differently tonight from both sides?
Not so much lineups or strategy.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But execution. I guess I mean points in the paint.
That's big.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I would expect, as I said, the spurs through everything
to limit the points in the paint that the Knick's
got fifty is a big number, and I would expect
to see Victor Weben Yama spend more time in the paint,
Like you can't have him shooting nine threes.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's not an efficient way to UH to go about this,
but I expect them to be better.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Look down two to oh is not an insurmountable deficit.
We've seen the twenty twenty one Bucks do it. We
saw the twenty sixteen Calves do it. The Miami Heat
in O six they did it. But those teams had
home court advantage. You know, when they those people were
going back to their home floor, they low us the
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first two games on the road. The Spurs losing two
games at home with three of the next what four
games are five games at Madison Square Garden. You're not
winning that series. You're not winning that series winning four
of the five with three of them coming on MSG.
You are absolutely tost So if you're the Spurs, the
good news is you've faced adversity before.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Great, you were down three to two to Oklahoma City.
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's tough to come back against Oklahoma So it's must
win ish, must win ish, Yes, must win ish. Look,
I would call it must win full stop because I
don't see them winning four against five in the finals
without home court advantage. But I expect them to play
a lot better in this game tonight, all right, eight
seven to seven three DP shows the phone number, email
address DP at Danpatrick dot com. Brendan Haywood, NBA TV analyst,
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former center also a former teammate of Dirt Navitsky, one
of the last guys to revolutionize the game in that
front court. He's gonna join us this hour. Sam Amic,
longtime writer down in San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
We'll talk to Sam. But the vibe within the.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Spurs also Janistintcompo, Flox Ticken. The Milwaukee Bucks have put
a pre draft clock on trading Giannis next three weeks.
I'd be pretty big. And I wonder if how these
files have played out have influenced some of the teams
that are out there eyeing Jannis Tendacompo for their future.
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Tallest Tales on YouTube. Right, and we were talking a
little bit earlier about Jalen Brunson getting upset at something
that a courtside fan was saying for you. Were their
rules on what fans could or couldn't say to you?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
I mean, I think that most players would always like
there to be rules, but especially back when I played,
those rules weren't really enforced. I would hear fans saying
crazy stuff about people's families, about people's personal looks. I've
had them joking guys on my team about their body weight. Man,
so it was I've seen guys making light of certain
(17:53):
guys getting injured. So unfortunatelys sports and like comedy clubs
are like the only two places where fans can get
outright unruly and everybody says, you know what, that's okay,
that's okay.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
What's the worst thing you ever heard a fan say
to you or a teammate?
Speaker 6 (18:15):
In Chicago, I remember when Kyrie Irvan got hurt and
came out one of the games and one of the
fans was cheering. He's like, yeah, yeah, don't go back in,
and he was just cheering about the guy being injured.
I like that set me off, like I ain't even
that type of guy, and even I leaned over and
said something to him like listen, man, you're going too far.
And then I had one of my friends, and not
one of my friends, I had a fan that kept
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yelling about a certain teammate's domestic situation that had happened
early in his life that I thought was a little
out of bounce to I won't say the teammate's name,
but I will just say that I thought that yelling
that out consistently was.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
A little bit, a little bit, a little bit out
of line.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
All right, Game one of the final Spurs go down
close game all the way to the end, Jalen Brunson
takes over down the stretch. The biggest adjustment that you
think said Antonio needs to make is what.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
All right, The biggest suggesstment they need to make. They
need to make a couple, Chris. They need to make
a couple first and foremost at the end of games.
I think they're better off playing through the mid pick
and roll than playing through Wimby, because down the stretch
of that game, Brunson knew exactly where he wanted to go,
and Winby looked like a twenty two year old that
was trying to figure it out in front of the world.
(19:24):
And so Carl Anthony Town did an incredible job guarding Wmby,
but Carl still doesn't guard well in space.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
So I think, unless Wimby's really really.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Like on fire, the midpick and roll with either Harper,
Fox or Castle, I think that would be their best
move coming down the stretch of close ballgames. Because now
you pull Karl Anthony Towns off of Wemby's body, which
allows Wimby to roll down the lane, that allows guys
like Champagne to get activated on the weak side, and
you put more stress on that New York Knicks defense.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Do you think that wen Bin Yama spent too much
time beyond the three point line of Game one?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Absolutely, And if you and I expect him to make
the adjustment. We saw this before Game one against the
Minnesota Timberwolves in the second round of the playoffs, women
Yanna women Yama took nine threes. I think he would
zero for nine, and the very next game he got
right back to the paint and the rest was history.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
They won.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
You know, they would dominate throughout the rest of the series.
And so I expect Wenby to correct his mistakes. Two
for nine from three, not like that's not where he
wants to be. Obviously, at seven to four, he has
the ability to shoot the three point shot, but.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
He's seven to four.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
He has to understand the other team wants you to
take nine, ten eleven threes unless you're hot at unless
you're gonna go seven of nine, six for nine at
seven four, you shouldn't take nine threes because your superpower
is that you're seven four. You got to make teams
feel that you're seven to four and that starts from
fifteen feet on end in the pan.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
You know you played with Dirk Davitsky in Dallas, want
a chance being shipped with Dirk. How would you compare
the uniqueness of Victor Webbin Yama to the uniqueness of Dirk.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
It's different because Wenby is unique on both ends of
the court. So for Dirk, Dirk was truly unique because
a seventh footer that can shoot the ball as well
as he did in that timeframe was considered unique. It's
not like it is now. It's not like every team
had all these stretch forwards. And then Dirk was unique
and he developed a go to move that the rest
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of the league would try to copy and emulate.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Still to this day.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
That one leg fadeaway jump shot at seven feet tall
was unguardable that it was almost similar, not similar, but
how Kareem abdul Jabbar had had the skyhook at his height.
That's unguardable. And so when you developed that type of thing,
that makes you truly unique. So in that aspect, Dirk
was unique, similar to Winby's seven feet unique skill set.
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But what makes Wemby that guy is man what he
does defensively, and it's only year three.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
We've never seen nobody like like he shuts down the lane.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
I have never seen so many guards run into the
lane see a player say now I'm gonna go that way,
and that's what he does.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
A lot of coaches that I've talked to say to
their teams in pregame meetings, when you go to the paint,
don't expect to shoot. It's driving kick. That's why you're
going to the basket. You're not looking to get a
shot off because he's gonna be there. I mean, his
ability to not just contest the first shot, but go
after the second one as well. His recovery is incredible.
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Like he's he just goes to that second spot on
the floor. I mean, does he you know what would
you do? What would you tell your team if you
were coaching a team going up against Victor Wimbinyam, how
to attack him?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
First and foremost, I agree with the other coaches. When
you go into the lane, if you see him, you
gotta understand if you don't get into his body you're
driving to make the next pass. You know, you can't
treat him like he's the average defender because he simply is.
You know, That's why he's the defensive player of the year.
So when you go into the lane, you're going in
to draw his attention, but then you're making one to
two passes to get the ball activated. But you just
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want to draw him to you. So that's what I
would do, is like, hey, listen, if you're now, I'm
not telling you to not look at the rim, but
when you go in there, understand, this is not the
average shot blocker. This guy ain't from round here. They
called him Ali for for a reason.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'm talking to Brandon Heywood, NBA TV analyst, former NBA Center,
NBA champion with the Dallas Mavericks back in twenty eleven.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Wedby can't do it by himself.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Brendan, you know that de Aaron Fox did not play
well in game one. How short a leash do you
think that Mitch Johnson needs to have on Fox in
game two?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I don't think Miss Johnson needs to have a short
leach on d Aaron Fox.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
I think he just has to read the read the
room and that's one thing I think the Mitch made
a mistake on in the fourth quarter. I didn't think
it was a d Aaron Fox game. I think it
should have been a Harper game. I thought Harper was
playing best of anybody on that team, and I think
sometimes you got to you can't be so stuck in.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Your way that you're scared to adjust.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I know they want to end games with the Aaron Fox,
but if he's struggling and you got a guy as
talented as Harper and he's playing well, sometimes you got
to roll with the young dogs and let them see
if they're ready to eat on the big stage.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, eleven minutes in the fourth quarter was too many
for Daron Fox the way he was playing. And I'm
not sure if it's injury related, inconsistency, whatever it is.
He's just not looking like the same guy we saw
for most of the regular season, the All Star of
the Clutch player. He hasn't looked like that same guy.
And look, I thought he was okay defensively against Brunson.
And that's a big question I think for san Antonio
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on that into the floor, like what do they have
to do differently to prevent the kind of fourth quarter
explosion that Jalen Brunson had.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Well, when you look at Jalen Brunson, he didn't shoot
the ball well from the field, so defensively, their game
plan was solid. I thought early in the game they
tried to put Carter Bryant on him and he.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Like if you.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
I think it was like the second quarter, Jalen Brunson
was kind of struggling and then Carter Bryant was on
him and he reeled off like a quick three or
four field goals. I think they need to stay away
from that matchup. Young fella's not ready for that just yet.
And then as far as the fourth quarter goes, I
think they need to load up a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Like Brunton wants to iso.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
They need to make that fifteen foot mid range area
look real clutter, similar to what they did to shay
Giojis Alexander. You don't want the most clutch player in
the NBA having one on one situations with the game
on the line.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Because he proved he can beat you in the game on.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
The road where he wasn't shooting the ball well the
last two minutes of the game, he made all the
plays that led the Knicks to the game one win.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
If the next winner championship, what does that do for
Jalen Brunson's legacy?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
If the next Winter Championship, Jalen Brunson probably becomes the
greatest New York Nick of all time.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I don't even think that's hyperble you put over you
in with that championship. I know, I ain't know about it.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
I'm just saying with like, if he has a championship,
you look at all the All Star appearances He's had,
all the All NBA appearances.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
We're talking about he's the most clutch player multiple years
in a row.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
And then you give him a championship, he has to
be the most he has to be the best Knick
of all time and this and then when you win
a championship for a team as storied as the New
York Knicks, you know what that does as far as
you know the legacy aspect of your career and where
you fall into with the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
What do you think that people missed about Brunson back
in twenty twenty two. I mean, it's amazing to think
that as recently as four years ago, the Dallas Mavericks
could have had Jalen Brunston on a four year, fifty
five million dollar contract. He was ready to sign that
deal before the twenty one twenty tris he's doing.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Man, I'm just say, Chris, you me and you got
close in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Okay, you know I'm still you know, I'm still good
with the Dallas.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Are you trying to turn the Dallas?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
No, not at all, Not at all, Brendon. I think
that I'm just wondering. It's not just Dallas and even
New York. They paid him one hundred million dollars, which
was viewed as an overpay at that point. What do
you think people missed about him back in twenty twenty
two when he was a free agent.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
I don't think it's what they missed. I think it's
when you look at Jalen Brunson, he's so unassuming.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You look at him, you're like, he's not the fastest.
He's not the quickest.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
He he doesn't look like overly muscular, he doesn't jump
out of the gym, and so when people see him,
he's just not doesn't look like a great NBA athlete.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
But what they missed was the skill set three.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Level score, the ability to the ability to not play
up or down. Like if you ever watch Jalen Brunson,
you can't tell if he's got thirty or if he's
got three.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
He's here with it. I'm right here all the time.
That's a key, That's that's key.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
And then the thing that I think people really missed,
even though he's only maybe what six' to, two he
has the ability to post up in the low, block
in the mid post like he's six,' eight and that
is what they, really missed because when the game slows
down in, the playoffs most of your best players have
to be able to score from the. MID range i
know we love. THE three i know we love the,
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three ball but you're not winning in a fourth quarter
of a close game by ice on we shooting step
back threes all just traditionally IN. The nba you're winning
because your best player is creating a problem for the
mid post where he either scores a bucket or creates
a shot for somebody else because he gets double or
triple team from.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
THAT area i we're still doing the Autopsy On, oklahoma
city but all the attentions being paid to whether Or
Not chet holmgren should be there. Next year if You're
The Oklahoma city thunder And You're, sam presty are you
running it Back With?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Chet holmgren, and.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Listen man let me tell you, one, Thing Man, Chris
pete i'm gonna give all.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Your listeners i'm gonna give you this one.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
For free anybody telling You that chet shouldn't be there
don't know what that they. Talking, about listen let's Not
Forget chet holmgren is. Twenty four he had a. Bad
series it's not like he forgot how to. PLAY basketball
i saw that he didn't take advantage of smaller. PLAYERS
too i saw that he looked scared of the. Moment
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too but are we gonna overreact and trade a twenty
four year old that's a two way player at seven,
feet two that's able, to, dribble shoe make athletic plays at,
the rim WAS All Nba all. Defensive performer he was
Second And defensive player Of, the year and we want.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
To trade that guy and overreact to.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
One series anybody Telling The oklahoma city fan base that
that's what they need to do is absolutely out of.
Their Mind If I'm, sam presty this Is What brendon abel.
WOULD do i walk, IN there i sit. SHUT down
i show him all of his minutes where Guys, Like Champenny,
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Keldon Johnson devin vessell re, guarding him and he didn't
go to. The block i'm gonna, Say now i'm gonna
get on the phone with, His Trainer Drew handling drew
next year when this guy, COMES back i need him
to able to post up in these type. Of Situations
if check can take advantage of smaller players and still
have the defensive acumen that, he Has The Oklahoma city
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thunder gonna be. Just fine saying that they should move
Off of check is one of the Dumbest things i've.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Ever heard in.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
My Life, all right we get a question from the
room before we let.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
You go what do?
Speaker 5 (30:17):
You, got guys we've been talking about This Because brendan
haywood is a clean Seven feet we've seen him in
person Before chet holmgrin's. Seven feet you had a great
career thirteen years IN. The nba lots of dough day.
To day what is the negative about being seven?
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Feet, tall well.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Why don't you have to say lots? Of? Dough man
ain't gotta talk talk about my, money situation.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Man's and you're gonna have my Family members texas be
trying to get.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Some bread man taxes got Hit, by.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah exactly the challenges of being seven. Feet tall.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
That question day to, day clothing walking in, the restaurants stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
LIKE that.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I think day to day is just first, of all
you got the clothing aspect. Of it always always got
to watch out for doors because you know if you
if you don't dunk that you will hit.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Your head you hit your head.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
One or, two times you'll realize you don't want to do.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
That anymore.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Fitting in, the cars fitting in, THE car i have
to get all of. MY cars i have to get my.
Car's CUSTOMED so i have to have my seat move
back on every last one of, my cars even if it's,
a SUV because i can't fit in it from a laying.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Room, standpoint.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Last but, Not least i'll say the effect that my
height has, on children because when children, see me they
are just like in all they're. Looking up like like
the OTHER day i went to, MY uh i went
to my my daughter's kindergarten graduation and there was a
kid he was tapping.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
His, Mom's, like mom look it's a giant.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Like that that's just that that's just my, life though
that that's how that that's, my Life and i'm used
TO and i.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Love it good to talk, To. You brandon we appreciate.
Your time, all, right man. Thank You That's, BRENDAN HAYWARD nba,
tv analysts Creator Of. Tallest tales Over At These tallest tales.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
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Speaker 2 (32:09):
Listen Live, sam amic senior writer over At the athletic
he is Down In. San, antonio sam let me ask.
You This jalen brunson Leads the knicks to. The Championship
Is jalen brunson the greatest nick of?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
All time.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
It's gramaix good to. See you is he the greatest
nick of?
Speaker 7 (32:28):
All time? It's maybe? YOU know i mean that was
quick side story from the.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Playoff.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
ROAD here i was at an establishment last night with
the lovely daughter Of Jan, Patrick Ewing So, randy ewing
so she might have something to say about. This debate,
you know there's a long list of. GREAT knicks i
don't care to be honest. With You where jalen falls in.
That debate i'd like the other, Debate better like this
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six to an.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Under thing is. Is Wild chris paul deserves to be on.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
That list But but jalen is doing the type of
stuff that sparks, these debates.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
Doing the type of stuff that, you know not to
have somebody catch.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
As STRAIGHT but i keep laughing About The, becky hammond
like the whole Commentary where becky, you know said so
long Ago that jalen could not be the number one
guy on a, championship team and she stood on, that
recently which was, kind of, you.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Know strange he's just. Been.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Incredible man he's fun to watch and, you know, you
Know On west, coast BASE so i don't See the knicks,
as much, and buddy To watch jalen do what he
did in the, fourth quarter it. Was fun it was
neat to see because it, was, like oh this dude
is as advertised when it.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Matters most what's been.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
The vibe Around the spurs last couple.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Of, days fine they're pretty for a, Young group they're
they're pretty.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Even keeled they, you know, they're mature, You.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Know wenby i'm always really interested how he's going to
handle his voice and. HIS messaging i did think it
was interesting after game one that, you know and you
know this like he kind of wait said no time
sliding in quite a few comments about, your confidence and,
You know i'm not worried in, the slightest, you know
just projecting the kind of way you would expect for a. Confident,
(34:11):
guy uh they. SEEM fine, i mean you just hit
the nail on the head when you talked about. Game
two is, the like let's do a false check if
they lose. Game two you know they're gonna be fine
if they split this thing. At home and not to,
put you, you know give you a. HOMEWORK assignment i
did wonder because you detailed the teams that went down
oh two when they were, you know on. The road
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have we had a champion who lost the first two,
at home so, YOU know.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I forget what the six.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
HEAT did i know they were another team that was
down oh two when they came back To. Beat dallas
but that's the only one that there haven't been that
netty that have come back.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
From too it's only been. A.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Handful yeah because when you said this was, MUST win
i was going to give you a hard time and
say it, was hyperbole and then as you laid, it
out it, was like it's.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Pretty important so, What, Happens.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Sam i'm fact, based here. ALWAYS fact i don't think
it's ever didn't Hap. WITH miami i think They were
they lost the first two on, the road and those
are THE teams i mentioned lost on the road.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
As well so Adjustment For. San antonio what do you
think is the biggest adjustment they're gonna make going into. Game, two.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Well it's the same thing they've battled throughout, the playoffs
which is that as Great as, wemby is as part
of this is youth and and it's him trying to
figure out the. Chess match.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
He's inconsistent he has a, roller coaster, you know kind
of element to. His game so they've got to you already,
Said this they've got to get him. Inside, more yes
it's it was super fun when he hit that thirty
five footer in the last round in.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Game, one, okay fine but getting.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
Pushed Out, by kat getting pushed out By og Nanobi And.
Mitchell robinson the, PROBLEM is i just don't know how
you know doable that is because this is literally the,
roster construction and that you should want to have to
Go at wemby and going into. THE series i wrote
a whole PIECE where i talked to some front office
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folks about the domino effect Of what victor. Was doing
and the, reality is the irony is is that like
most of THE people i, talked to you pointed To
the knicks roster construction as what you. Should want a
Guy like kat who's, seven feet two hundred and.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
Forty pounds, You know mitch, big boy a lot.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Of halft, you know he Can bully webby and he's
athletic enough to keep up.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
With him same you know og and what. He brings
So getting victor going first.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
And, foremost secondly you know the others In The west
finals For, the spurs you Know, D'erre Fox, Julian Champenny,
dylan harper all the way. Down line Kill the johnson
had a fantastic finish to. That series, you know those
guys have got to show up because, you, Know yes
vic was six to twenty one and struggled, a bit
but but the other guys weren't weren't helping.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Him Either What, Kevin johnson.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Gelly eight minutes in this game one that. Was, SURPRISING
yeah a Thought sixth man Of. THE year i thought
he'd be a natural guy to put on towns. For
stretches that surprised me a. Little minutes he's Got we,
YOU know i thought that the fatigue sam was a
little bit overblown coming into, the SERIES because i thought
three days was a, long TIME and i thought they
thought being at home was going to be enough For
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san antonio to recharge the batteries and not make fatigue
as big an issue.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
As Somewhere but i'm Watching that.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Game one i'm sitting There and i'm Looking At Victor
webbin yama kind of grabbing his knees in the. First
quarter i'm looking at some of these other guys just
not look like they've had the same energy that they
did early in that Series In. Oklahoma city how big
a fact do you think fatigue's going to be in this,
game too and potentially the rest of.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
The series, It's Significant but, i'm confused you, know AGAIN
like i was Not around victor that much all.
Speaker 8 (37:50):
Season long so now you know This is we've done
this a.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Long time you get in the gym with these guys
and you try to study them and learn how they're
wired how They operate victor and the way that he
crashes out from a fatigue standpoint is puzzling, BECAUSE yes
i understand he's seven, foot four but he's not lugging
around three, hundred pounds. You know but he absolutely does
have these moments and you just hit, on it like
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early in the game when he's clutching at the knees or,
you know looking for a blow that doesn't. Make sense
and that's where as, transcendent great, you know and talented as,
he is the inconsistency part has got to be TRICKY For,
ms johnson, you know from a, rotation standpoint because, you
know is that tied to not having as much of
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a break As the knicks coming out Of The, West
finals like that's a little hard, To believe like, you said,
three days so.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
They got to fight.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Through that you didn't see any of that From, the
KNICKS and i don't really think as necessarily because of,
you know that long stretch that they had.
Speaker 8 (38:46):
To Rest but.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Wenby's.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
GREAT again i keep kind of hitting the, same point,
he's great but he comes and goes.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
A bit how short a leash do you Think D
aaron fox will be? On tonight.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Very curious to see it because there are bigger picture
implications of that kind of. A choice i've been asked
this a couple, of times and my thing Is the
spurs from a, culture standpoint are obviously, incredibly savvy and
they know that the moment you open the door To
The dylan harper era and you Put, the aaron, you
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know on, the bench, you know, you know because of
the stakes of what's going on, right now like he's
going to be a, domino effect and that's very tricky
for them from a, planning standpoint, because yes they have
this historical Backdrop where Montage and nobili famously agrees to
go to the Bench With greg popovich's, you know kind,
of nudging and the rest.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Is history He's a Hall.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Of famer montagenobili was not making sixty million dollars, a
year which is What the aaron is on track, to
make and so the solution is not quite.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
As easy Even.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
If daron at some point was willing to yield to
the young fella in terms of, a contract, roster construction that's.
An issue so but you got a championship on, the,
line so, you KNOW would i be.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
Shocked to see it, You know i'd. BE surprised i
don't know how short the. Leash is dylan didn't show.
Out though that's the.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
Other thing he had a good, first half but four
points in the, second half, you know he faded.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
A bit but the more pressure that he applies with
his play.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
And then With, the aaron, you know if he keeps
doing what he did in, game one which is having a,
hard time then, you know we'll see.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
What happens i'm Talking.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
To Sam an mix AND you're nba writer over At
the Athletic In san Antonio for game two OF The nba. Finals,
tonight sam we are right around three weeks away FROM The,
nba draft which is three weeks away from the self
imposed deadline That The milwaukee bucks have To. Trade giannistindecompo
what have you been hearing over the last couple of
Days about giannis and how likely do you think it
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Is that giannis has traded Before the?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
June draft.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Jeems.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
Very, likely admittedly you know that it's not often you have,
an owner, you know publicly framing, the timeline And That's.
Jimmy haslm did you know we Just saw Jimmy has
them do a blockbuster Trade With miles garrett IN the
nfl showing he's certainly ready to pull that trigger if he.
NEEDS to i do expect it. To, happen miami as,
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you know is the. Loudest noise, you know you continue to.
Hear that BUT what i tried to write the other
day with My colleague, eric name and it was interesting to,
get into, is yes it appears, you know everybody you
talk To says miami at, the deadline had a deal that,
was closed had a deal that they thought was going.
To Happen the bucks ended up, backing out and so
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the noise is Tied. To miami but there's also some,
intel discussion, you know kind of Understanding that giannis has
questions about What that miami roster would look like on
the other side of. A deal, you know it reminds
me Of The carmelo anthony dilemma when he Went from
denver To, The knicks like you don't want to get,
the roster go to the place that you're excited to,
(41:57):
be to, you know, be in and then have a
hard time contending for. A championship and that is where,
you know we'll see what happens in the next few
weeks because in one of, YOUR backyards i Think the
celtics are pretty intriguing options where, you know in terms of,
being competitive you know if you do Something. With boston
and this is what we had Heard from, ghanis's side
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that the intrigue.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
Is real, you know the Restect For, joe mizula the
way that he might see. That roster SO do i
think it? CHANGES things i don't, know yet but, YOU
know i do think that's.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
WORTH watching i could See why yiannis would want to Play.
IN boston i still struggle to See why boston would
give up the kind of assets it would need to
give up to go and. Get, you honest not that
they aren't, considering it But if i'm Running, The celtics
i'm Not Trading jalen brown and a couple of draft Picks.
For YOSTI the coopo not in a reaction to a
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bad first round loss To the philadelphia seventy, six ers
MOSTLY because i Don't trust.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Giannis's.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
HEALTH sam i don't trust that he's had multiple years
of soft tissue injuries and you're going to have to
give this guy a multi year contract at the. Full
max now you're talking about having two full max guys
on your Roster In jason Tatum, and jostinecom both both
of whom have dealt with significant injuries over the last couple.
OF years I Know jalen brown is not a. PERFECT
(43:19):
fit i Know the celtics want to get more pressure on.
The Rim brad stevens talked, about that but, to me
the risk is just too big to go all in
on a Player like giannis at.
Speaker 8 (43:29):
This, stage well and it's very. Sensitive too Like The
jalen brown thing that you just.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
Hit on it's like when the noise got loud a
couple of months Ago regarding dalen and how he saw
him the season and all the chatter about what he
said on the live stream that it was the most
fun he'd ever had and that was confusing because, you
know it just set this message that he wanted his.
Own team as you Know, the celtics, you know they
went to great lengths to kind of massage that situation
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and get things back in a. Good place and they're
not the only team dealing with This like miami is
and This is. Giannis Related miami is is loud with it.
Right now they don't care if everybody knows that They're
chasing giannis because they don't really Care What tyler hero
feels about.
Speaker 8 (44:08):
Getting traded But like boston's got to.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
Be sensitive, you Know the knicks are unofficially out because
of what. They're doing but You Remember Karl anthony towns
was not real thrilled to have his name attached to the.
Speaker 8 (44:21):
Honest discussion you.
Speaker 7 (44:22):
Know previously like that IS where i think we could
see a wild card team come, on strong, you know
and come out of, the shadows so, to SPEAK because
i think there's a lot of teams that are absolutely
looking at this and, interested here but also have to
pay attention to their own locker.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Room dynamics if somebody offered you one hundred thousand dollars
for your press Pass for game Three In, new york
would you?
Speaker 7 (44:47):
TAKE it, i, mean journalistically. ABSOLUTELY not i would never
consider such. A thing I think i'm you're a nick
journalist if. There's, so yeah but the sphere of, your,
QUESTION like, i, mean, yeah hunter.
Speaker 8 (45:03):
K that's i'm good.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
With that that's, you know the production VALUE on tv
these days is pretty. Pretty high i'll hang out with
somebodies and watch this thing on a big old projector
screen and, you know laugh all the way to the bank.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome to the program, Dan Patrick's Show. Chris Mannix filling
in this Friday for DP.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's right, boys, I'm back. Good to see you guys.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Been a minute.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I was thinking about this before it came in.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Had to have been at least six years before the
pandemic when I was last sitting in this chair.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Pearl Off, you're looking great back there, thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Chris.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Like the beard seating, you're doing something with your hair
these days.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
That's little tan.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Also, little little.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Tan a little bit darker. Good to see all you guys.
PAULI had a great talk with you. Always good to
catch up. Yeah, I'm checking my notes here. I got
April of nineteen the last time you were in the
big chair.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Okay, well so yeah good almost seven years.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Now, Wow, long time been doing anything.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh look you guys, did you know you won your
separate ways with other NBA people for a while. But
like I'm like Thanos, you just you always come back
to me.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm in a president, I'm the president.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Always back there. Great, Great to catch up with you, Paulie,
my Vermont neighbor. We talked for a good five six minutes,
and then Fritzie came in and gave me one quick
half hug, turned around and went away. It was hey,
how's life. Chris said, good, you turned around.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You left my minimal kindness. Then we like to joke about. Yeah, Paul,
he walked up to you.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
He hadn't seen you in seven years, and he goes, hey,
how's life. And as he's saying the word life, he's
turning back, turning his head to you and going back
to his little coat.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Very busy, very busy guy.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And I stepped out of the studio for a moment.
He followed up with everything good. I was the follow
up from fritzyecton.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Minimum kindness, kind of minimum interest. Do I give him
credit for that?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Like, didn't seem to have any interest in hearing about
what was going on in my life.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, Paul, Now you've been a part of the show
for a long long time. You've been our NBA guy boxing.
You've hosted at least seven or eight times I think
over the years. But a lot of changes for you
the past five years.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
A lot of changes. I am mostly a Californian now
I live out in Los Angeles, got married a couple
of years ago and had a kid six months ago
to the day. My son six months old today, Big
day for young Miles mannixs Manick, Miles Manni six months old.
He's like thirty pounds, he's massive, He's got my height.
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Hopefully he's got my wife's athleticism. She's a people that
don't know, former professional boxer, and yeah she's she's got
the athleticism in the family. But excited to be back
here with you, guys. Looking forward to being here with
you over the next three hours. Looking forward to Game
two of the NBA Finals tonight, ABC Spurs and Nick
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Game one, we saw the San Antonio Spurs get punched
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in the mouth. They had the fourteen point lead in
the third quarter, they blew it. They rallied to take
the one point lead in the fourth quarter, and they
blew it. Now we see what the Spurs are made
of in a series like this. Now we see if
they can punch back. We'll see if Victor Webbin Yama
can punch back when Banyama stat line look great in
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Game one, twenty six points, twelve rebounds, but he was
six of twenty one from the floor. He settled for
way too many jump shots in this game. He was
part of a defense that allowed the Knicks to score
fifty points in the paint. How many times has a
Victor Webbin Yama led defense given up fifty points in
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the paint?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
At times?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
During Game one, he was flat out outplayed by Karl
Anthony Towns, and I don't think he responded well physically
to that matchup. That can't happen again. The Spurs are
not winning this series unless Victor Webbin Yama is the
best player on the floor. I don't think that's too
hot to take. But they're not win the series unless
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he's number one. He also can't do it without some help.
And when I'm talking about help, I'm looking directly at
Daron Fox. I'm looking at the two time All Star,
the former Clutch Player of the Year, who was flat
out awful in Game one, three or thirteen from the
floor seven points, three turnovers, five fouls. This was a
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guy that the Spurs traded for to be the number
two option on the team. He was brought in from Sacramento.
He was expected to be the veteran presence, the guy
alongside Wemby. He has not been that for most of
the postseason. Had a great Game seven against Oklahoma City
helped them get to the finals, but other than that,
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he has not been consistent. Played thirty eight minutes in
Game one. He can't be playing that many minutes if
he's this ineffective. Played eleven plus minutes in the fourth quarter.
Can't be playing that ma minutes If is this ineffective.
The guy that needs to be playing the rookie Dylan Harper.
Dylan Harper needs to be getting those minutes. Harper played
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twenty eight minutes in the opener. If d Aaron Fox
gets off to the kind of start we saw him
get off to in Game two, those numbers needs to
be flipped. I mean, it's strange to say, but the
two time All Star, former Clutch Player of the Year
should not be playing over the twenty year old rookie,
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not the way Fox is playing now. We know he's
got the ankle injury that's obviously inhibited him during the postseason,
but it's not time to trust the veteran in this situation.
It's time to play the best players that If d
Aaron Fox is not playing like that, then you can't play.
He's shooting forty two percent from the full or in
(05:49):
the playoffs he's shooting under thirty percent from three. The
leash on Daron Fox needs to be really short going
into this game too.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yeah, Paul, second of Game one, I think the Spurs
had twenty one points in the third, nineteen and the fourth.
Is it anything more than just being tired compared to
the Knicks not being tired or was there.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Flaws with their attack?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I think fatigue was a factor, especially for Webbin Yama
two for nine from three point range.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
That tells me that his legs weren't all the way there.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Watching that first quarter, you know, within the first five
or six minutes, there were moments where Webbin Yama was
grabbing his knees and that's not something that's encouraging if
you're San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Look, he's a unicorn. He's a unique player. The fact
that he's seven.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Foot four and can pull up from twenty eight feet
that is a valuable asset.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
But you also need him in the paint.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You also need him drawing fouls on Karl Anthony town
So I think in the third quarter when he got
out of the locker room, I think, what Towns picked
up three fouls in the first like five six minutes
the third quarter. That's the guy we need to see
for the first twenty four minutes of this game. He's
got to be more in the paint. I do think
fatigue was a factor in this one, and I'm not
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sure that gets much better with less than forty eight
hours of rest. But Ween bin Yama's got to be
more in the paint.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Yeah, Brunson got all the coverage from game one. How
good was Karl Anthony Towns?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
You cover the sport He was great.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He was great, and Kat takes a lot of flak.
I mean it was like less than a year ago
we were having a conversation about trading Cat for Janstan Decompo.
You know, before the start of these playoffs, we're probably
having the same conversation. Hell down to one against the Hawks,
We're probably having that conversation. But here we are, And
I don't think the Knicks would trade Cat for Janna
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straight up right now, the way.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
He's playing, not right now, not up one zip.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, Dylan, do you think Kat's performance looks even better
in comparison to chets.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Chet?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
My apologies, Yes, it's bad.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's bad because everybody's looking at it and saying, hey,
that's the way chet Holmgren needs to play now. There
are there are physical differences to the two, right Like,
Kat's a grown man. Kat is a full fledged power
forward slash center who is comfortable going to the bask
He's a thirty year old man.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Jet Holmgren's in his early twenties. Jet Holmgren is still
filling out his frame.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He's probably he's never gonna be as big as Carl Town's,
but he can get ten fifteen more pounds on that frame.
But more than anything, like, it's the mental part of
it for chet Holmgren, like Towns looks at Wembin Yama
and says, I'm going right at you, does not hesitate
for a second. Jet Holmgren and looks at Webbin Yama
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and looks like he saw a ghost.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, PAULI I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
A guy like Karl Anthony Towns, he actually thinks he's
as good or better than Wemby, whether he is or not,
but he believes it that way. And Holmgren felt like
he was he was done before the halftime. It felt
like he was receding back and trying to stay out
of the moment.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, Holmgren, I would compare it to a professional boxer
that goes up against someone that kicked their butt in
the amateur rank a lot where it's like you and
this matchup with wen Benyama has been dating back to
international tournaments, like they have a history there. And while
Chet's teams have been successful in some of these tournaments,
wem ben Yama has been the better player. So I
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think Chet's got it in his head that he's just
not on that level.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, Marvin. And does Chet also think, Man, this guy's
better than me and he hates me. I mean, it's true,
he does not like me. He does.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He's not a fan like when and Wemby. One of
the things I love the most about wemby is. He
walks the walk, and he also talks the talk. Like
a lot of guys after playing certain players or playing
at a certain level, they'll be humble about it. Jalen Brunson,
after a great finish to game one, didn't say much
after game two. When wem ben Yama has a big game,
(09:50):
he talks about it. When wem ben Yama wants to
win it, wants to win MVP, he's selling himself for it.
He's out there trying to let the voters know that
he belongs in that category. I think the stuff with
Chet is as much mental.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
As it is physical.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I think he shrinks in that moment, and that is
priority number one for Oklahoma City going into next year.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah, Paul, I got a couple fallout questions for you
from game one. You don't think that Johnson, the coach
of the Spurs benches Deyaron Fox, do you benches not benches?
That's the wrong word. Does not start and maybe start.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Now he'll start him. But I think this is a
very short least. And this is interesting because I think
for these coaches it.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Is a chess match.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I thought Mike Brown got the better of Mitch Johnson
in Game one. I think he surprised him with some
of these matchups. I mean, going into the series, I
think the conventional wisdom, and I talked to a lot
of former coaches other coaches about this, the conventional wisdom was,
you play web Binyama with Ogannanobi.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He is the six foot eight, sturdy guy.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Smaller players have had some level of success against web Banyama.
Kat doesn't have this great history as a defensive player.
I think they were caught off guard by Kat getting
this start on Wemby and then Mitchell Robinson getting some
of the reps. They went big on Victor Webman Yamba,
and now it's going to be on Mitch Johnson to
make that adjustment. It's play calling, it's design, it's everything.
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They also have to be more physical with Jalen Bronson.
This was a big takeaway for me from the game
was what were some of the reasons that the Spurs
knocked off Oklahoma City. One of the biggest ones was
how physical they were with Shae Gildis Alexander. They were
picking him up almost full court. Steph Castle was getting
minutes on him, he was staying on him. You saw
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Carter Bryant get like ten good minutes of hounding him.
You would body slam him in some of these games.
Like they were physical with Shae, they were tough with Shae.
We didn't see that same level of physicality or that
same attention paid.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
To Jalen Brunson in this game.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
They didn't shift as often as I thought they should
their defenses towards him. They didn't bump him as much
as they should. And the guards, they weren't fighting over
screens to get through. Look, if you look, I saw
some of the numbers for this when Jalen Brunson was
lined up with Devin Vessel and when he was lined
up with Carter Bryant or Julian Champagne, like he was
(12:14):
getting off. He was getting his numbers when he was
lined up with Castle, when he was lined up with Harper,
even when he was lined up with Fox, he wasn't
as effective. He wasn't as efficient. That comes down to
getting over screens. You have got to fight through these screens,
not let Jalen Brunson match up. Hunt as much as
he wants to. That's what he does as well as
any guard in this league. He hunts these matchups and
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when he gets them, he takes advantage of them.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You can't let him do that, Yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Right after the game, Jalen Brunson went up to the referee,
Scott Foster and was complaining. We heard yesterday from Chris Haynes.
He was complaining about something in the crowd or some
people in the crowd, anymore fall out from the NBA
or the Knicks about that.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You know they're investigating, is what I was told.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
As of late last night, I have not been told
yet exactly what was said, and I think that is
the ballgame here. Like I think, if you're sitting courtside,
you're allowed to say certain things. You're allowed to call
someone a flopper, You're allowed to heckle on a certain level.
You're certainly not allowed to cross lines. You can't cross
(13:14):
lines and use vulgarity. You can't bring up somebody's family.
If you do that, you're out, simple as that. So
I don't know what happened there. It was interesting to
see him going up to Scott Foster because in the moment,
I thought he was going after Scott Foster, like everybody
thinks they're going to Scott Foster.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Is the most polarizing referee in the league.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
For those who don't know why.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's mostly his Well, look, he's very visible and his
few with Chris Paul has taken him to a different
level that has made him the face of kind of
in the same way that like Dick Bavetta, was well
known as a referee for people that were fans of
the NBA in the nineties early two thousand, Scott Foster
has taken on that. There's also the association with Tim
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Donneghey from back in the day. He was a close
friend of Donegie and that kind of got the rock
rolling down the mountain there and make peeple pay a
lot more attention to Chris Paul.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Look at you being careful with the Scott.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
There's no I know, there were no evidence to suggest
that Scott Foster was involved anything, but he's very polarizing.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Do you what do you expect differently tonight from both sides?
Not so much lineups or strategy.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But execution. I guess I mean points in the paint.
That's big.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I would expect, as I said, the spurs through everything
to limit the points in the paint that the Knick's
got fifty is a big number, and I would expect
to see Victor Weben Yama spend more time in the paint,
Like you can't have him shooting nine threes.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's not an efficient way to UH to go about this,
but I expect them to be better.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Look down two to oh is not an insurmountable deficit.
We've seen the twenty twenty one Bucks do it. We
saw the twenty sixteen Calves do it. The Miami Heat
in O six they did it. But those teams had
home court advantage. You know, when they those people were
going back to their home floor, they low us the
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first two games on the road. The Spurs losing two
games at home with three of the next what four
games are five games at Madison Square Garden. You're not
winning that series. You're not winning that series winning four
of the five with three of them coming on MSG.
You are absolutely tost So if you're the Spurs, the
good news is you've faced adversity before.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Great, you were down three to two to Oklahoma City.
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's tough to come back against Oklahoma So it's must
win ish, must win ish, Yes, must win ish. Look,
I would call it must win full stop because I
don't see them winning four against five in the finals
without home court advantage. But I expect them to play
a lot better in this game tonight, all right, eight
seven to seven three DP shows the phone number, email
address DP at Danpatrick dot com. Brendan Haywood, NBA TV analyst,
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of the last guys to revolutionize the game in that
front court. He's gonna join us this hour. Sam Amic,
longtime writer down in San Antonio.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
We'll talk to Sam. But the vibe within the.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Spurs also Janistintcompo, Flox Ticken. The Milwaukee Bucks have put
a pre draft clock on trading Giannis next three weeks.
I'd be pretty big. And I wonder if how these
files have played out have influenced some of the teams
that are out there eyeing Jannis Tendacompo for their future.
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Tallest Tales on YouTube. Right, and we were talking a
little bit earlier about Jalen Brunson getting upset at something
that a courtside fan was saying for you. Were their
rules on what fans could or couldn't say to you?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
I mean, I think that most players would always like
there to be rules, but especially back when I played,
those rules weren't really enforced. I would hear fans saying
crazy stuff about people's families, about people's personal looks. I've
had them joking guys on my team about their body weight. Man,
so it was I've seen guys making light of certain
(17:53):
guys getting injured. So unfortunatelys sports and like comedy clubs
are like the only two places where fans can get
outright unruly and everybody says, you know what, that's okay,
that's okay.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
What's the worst thing you ever heard a fan say
to you or a teammate?
Speaker 6 (18:15):
In Chicago, I remember when Kyrie Irvan got hurt and
came out one of the games and one of the
fans was cheering. He's like, yeah, yeah, don't go back in,
and he was just cheering about the guy being injured.
I like that set me off, like I ain't even
that type of guy, and even I leaned over and
said something to him like listen, man, you're going too far.
And then I had one of my friends, and not
one of my friends, I had a fan that kept
(18:36):
yelling about a certain teammate's domestic situation that had happened
early in his life that I thought was a little
out of bounce to I won't say the teammate's name,
but I will just say that I thought that yelling
that out consistently was.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
A little bit, a little bit, a little bit out
of line.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
All right, Game one of the final Spurs go down
close game all the way to the end, Jalen Brunson
takes over down the stretch. The biggest adjustment that you
think said Antonio needs to make is what.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
All right, The biggest suggesstment they need to make. They
need to make a couple, Chris. They need to make
a couple first and foremost at the end of games.
I think they're better off playing through the mid pick
and roll than playing through Wimby, because down the stretch
of that game, Brunson knew exactly where he wanted to go,
and Winby looked like a twenty two year old that
was trying to figure it out in front of the world.
(19:24):
And so Carl Anthony Town did an incredible job guarding Wmby,
but Carl still doesn't guard well in space.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
So I think, unless Wimby's really really.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Like on fire, the midpick and roll with either Harper,
Fox or Castle, I think that would be their best
move coming down the stretch of close ballgames. Because now
you pull Karl Anthony Towns off of Wemby's body, which
allows Wimby to roll down the lane, that allows guys
like Champagne to get activated on the weak side, and
you put more stress on that New York Knicks defense.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Do you think that wen Bin Yama spent too much
time beyond the three point line of Game one?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Absolutely, And if you and I expect him to make
the adjustment. We saw this before Game one against the
Minnesota Timberwolves in the second round of the playoffs, women
Yanna women Yama took nine threes. I think he would
zero for nine, and the very next game he got
right back to the paint and the rest was history.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
They won.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
You know, they would dominate throughout the rest of the series.
And so I expect Wenby to correct his mistakes. Two
for nine from three, not like that's not where he
wants to be. Obviously, at seven to four, he has
the ability to shoot the three point shot, but.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
He's seven to four.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
He has to understand the other team wants you to
take nine, ten eleven threes unless you're hot at unless
you're gonna go seven of nine, six for nine at
seven four, you shouldn't take nine threes because your superpower
is that you're seven four. You got to make teams
feel that you're seven to four and that starts from
fifteen feet on end in the pan.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
You know you played with Dirk Davitsky in Dallas, want
a chance being shipped with Dirk. How would you compare
the uniqueness of Victor Webbin Yama to the uniqueness of Dirk.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
It's different because Wenby is unique on both ends of
the court. So for Dirk, Dirk was truly unique because
a seventh footer that can shoot the ball as well
as he did in that timeframe was considered unique. It's
not like it is now. It's not like every team
had all these stretch forwards. And then Dirk was unique
and he developed a go to move that the rest
(21:33):
of the league would try to copy and emulate.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Still to this day.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
That one leg fadeaway jump shot at seven feet tall
was unguardable that it was almost similar, not similar, but
how Kareem abdul Jabbar had had the skyhook at his height.
That's unguardable. And so when you developed that type of thing,
that makes you truly unique. So in that aspect, Dirk
was unique, similar to Winby's seven feet unique skill set.
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But what makes Wemby that guy is man what he
does defensively, and it's only year three.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
We've never seen nobody like like he shuts down the lane.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
I have never seen so many guards run into the
lane see a player say now I'm gonna go that way,
and that's what he does.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
A lot of coaches that I've talked to say to
their teams in pregame meetings, when you go to the paint,
don't expect to shoot. It's driving kick. That's why you're
going to the basket. You're not looking to get a
shot off because he's gonna be there. I mean, his
ability to not just contest the first shot, but go
after the second one as well. His recovery is incredible.
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Like he's he just goes to that second spot on
the floor. I mean, does he you know what would
you do? What would you tell your team if you
were coaching a team going up against Victor Wimbinyam, how
to attack him?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
First and foremost, I agree with the other coaches. When
you go into the lane, if you see him, you
gotta understand if you don't get into his body you're
driving to make the next pass. You know, you can't
treat him like he's the average defender because he simply is.
You know, That's why he's the defensive player of the year.
So when you go into the lane, you're going in
to draw his attention, but then you're making one to
two passes to get the ball activated. But you just
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want to draw him to you. So that's what I
would do, is like, hey, listen, if you're now, I'm
not telling you to not look at the rim, but
when you go in there, understand, this is not the
average shot blocker. This guy ain't from round here. They
called him Ali for for a reason.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'm talking to Brandon Heywood, NBA TV analyst, former NBA Center,
NBA champion with the Dallas Mavericks back in twenty eleven.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Wedby can't do it by himself.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Brendan, you know that de Aaron Fox did not play
well in game one. How short a leash do you
think that Mitch Johnson needs to have on Fox in
game two?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I don't think Miss Johnson needs to have a short
leach on d Aaron Fox.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
I think he just has to read the read the
room and that's one thing I think the Mitch made
a mistake on in the fourth quarter. I didn't think
it was a d Aaron Fox game. I think it
should have been a Harper game. I thought Harper was
playing best of anybody on that team, and I think
sometimes you got to you can't be so stuck in.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Your way that you're scared to adjust.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I know they want to end games with the Aaron Fox,
but if he's struggling and you got a guy as
talented as Harper and he's playing well, sometimes you got
to roll with the young dogs and let them see
if they're ready to eat on the big stage.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, eleven minutes in the fourth quarter was too many
for Daron Fox the way he was playing. And I'm
not sure if it's injury related, inconsistency, whatever it is.
He's just not looking like the same guy we saw
for most of the regular season, the All Star of
the Clutch player. He hasn't looked like that same guy.
And look, I thought he was okay defensively against Brunson.
And that's a big question I think for san Antonio
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on that into the floor, like what do they have
to do differently to prevent the kind of fourth quarter
explosion that Jalen Brunson had.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Well, when you look at Jalen Brunson, he didn't shoot
the ball well from the field, so defensively, their game
plan was solid. I thought early in the game they
tried to put Carter Bryant on him and he.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Like if you.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
I think it was like the second quarter, Jalen Brunson
was kind of struggling and then Carter Bryant was on
him and he reeled off like a quick three or
four field goals. I think they need to stay away
from that matchup. Young fella's not ready for that just yet.
And then as far as the fourth quarter goes, I
think they need to load up a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Like Brunton wants to iso.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
They need to make that fifteen foot mid range area
look real clutter, similar to what they did to shay
Giojis Alexander. You don't want the most clutch player in
the NBA having one on one situations with the game
on the line.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Because he proved he can beat you in the game on.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
The road where he wasn't shooting the ball well the
last two minutes of the game, he made all the
plays that led the Knicks to the game one win.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
If the next winner championship, what does that do for
Jalen Brunson's legacy?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
If the next Winter Championship, Jalen Brunson probably becomes the
greatest New York Nick of all time.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I don't even think that's hyperble you put over you
in with that championship. I know, I ain't know about it.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
I'm just saying with like, if he has a championship,
you look at all the All Star appearances He's had,
all the All NBA appearances.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
We're talking about he's the most clutch player multiple years
in a row.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
And then you give him a championship, he has to
be the most he has to be the best Knick
of all time and this and then when you win
a championship for a team as storied as the New
York Knicks, you know what that does as far as
you know the legacy aspect of your career and where
you fall into with the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
What do you think that people missed about Brunson back
in twenty twenty two. I mean, it's amazing to think
that as recently as four years ago, the Dallas Mavericks
could have had Jalen Brunston on a four year, fifty
five million dollar contract. He was ready to sign that
deal before the twenty one twenty tris he's doing.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Man, I'm just say, Chris, you me and you got
close in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Okay, you know I'm still you know, I'm still good
with the Dallas.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Are you trying to turn the Dallas?
Speaker 6 (26:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
No, not at all, Not at all, Brendon. I think
that I'm just wondering. It's not just Dallas and even
New York. They paid him one hundred million dollars, which
was viewed as an overpay at that point. What do
you think people missed about him back in twenty twenty
two when he was a free agent.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
I don't think it's what they missed. I think it's
when you look at Jalen Brunson, he's so unassuming.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You look at him, you're like, he's not the fastest.
He's not the quickest.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
He he doesn't look like overly muscular, he doesn't jump
out of the gym, and so when people see him,
he's just not doesn't look like a great NBA athlete.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
But what they missed was the skill set three.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Level score, the ability to the ability to not play
up or down. Like if you ever watch Jalen Brunson,
you can't tell if he's got thirty or if he's
got three.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
He's here with it. I'm right here all the time.
That's a key, That's that's key.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
And then the thing that I think people really missed,
even though he's only maybe what six' to, two he
has the ability to post up in the low, block
in the mid post like he's six,' eight and that
is what they, really missed because when the game slows
down in, the playoffs most of your best players have
to be able to score from the. MID range i
know we love. THE three i know we love the,
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three ball but you're not winning in a fourth quarter
of a close game by ice on we shooting step
back threes all just traditionally IN. The nba you're winning
because your best player is creating a problem for the
mid post where he either scores a bucket or creates
a shot for somebody else because he gets double or
triple team from.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
THAT area i we're still doing the Autopsy On, oklahoma
city but all the attentions being paid to whether Or
Not chet holmgren should be there. Next year if You're
The Oklahoma city thunder And You're, sam presty are you
running it Back With?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Chet holmgren, and.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Listen man let me tell you, one, Thing Man, Chris
pete i'm gonna give all.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Your listeners i'm gonna give you this one.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
For free anybody telling You that chet shouldn't be there
don't know what that they. Talking, about listen let's Not
Forget chet holmgren is. Twenty four he had a. Bad
series it's not like he forgot how to. PLAY basketball
i saw that he didn't take advantage of smaller. PLAYERS
too i saw that he looked scared of the. Moment
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too but are we gonna overreact and trade a twenty
four year old that's a two way player at seven,
feet two that's able, to, dribble shoe make athletic plays at,
the rim WAS All Nba all. Defensive performer he was
Second And defensive player Of, the year and we want.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
To trade that guy and overreact to.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
One series anybody Telling The oklahoma city fan base that
that's what they need to do is absolutely out of.
Their Mind If I'm, sam presty this Is What brendon abel.
WOULD do i walk, IN there i sit. SHUT down
i show him all of his minutes where Guys, Like Champenny,
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Keldon Johnson devin vessell re, guarding him and he didn't
go to. The block i'm gonna, Say now i'm gonna
get on the phone with, His Trainer Drew handling drew
next year when this guy, COMES back i need him
to able to post up in these type. Of Situations
if check can take advantage of smaller players and still
have the defensive acumen that, he Has The Oklahoma city
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thunder gonna be. Just fine saying that they should move
Off of check is one of the Dumbest things i've.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Ever heard in.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
My Life, all right we get a question from the
room before we let.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
You go what do?
Speaker 5 (30:17):
You, got guys we've been talking about This Because brendan
haywood is a clean Seven feet we've seen him in
person Before chet holmgrin's. Seven feet you had a great
career thirteen years IN. The nba lots of dough day.
To day what is the negative about being seven?
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Feet, tall well.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Why don't you have to say lots? Of? Dough man
ain't gotta talk talk about my, money situation.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Man's and you're gonna have my Family members texas be
trying to get.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Some bread man taxes got Hit, by.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah exactly the challenges of being seven. Feet tall.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
That question day to, day clothing walking in, the restaurants stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
LIKE that.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I think day to day is just first, of all
you got the clothing aspect. Of it always always got
to watch out for doors because you know if you
if you don't dunk that you will hit.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Your head you hit your head.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
One or, two times you'll realize you don't want to do.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
That anymore.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Fitting in, the cars fitting in, THE car i have
to get all of. MY cars i have to get my.
Car's CUSTOMED so i have to have my seat move
back on every last one of, my cars even if it's,
a SUV because i can't fit in it from a laying.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Room, standpoint.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Last but, Not least i'll say the effect that my
height has, on children because when children, see me they
are just like in all they're. Looking up like like
the OTHER day i went to, MY uh i went
to my my daughter's kindergarten graduation and there was a
kid he was tapping.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
His, Mom's, like mom look it's a giant.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Like that that's just that that's just my, life though
that that's how that that's, my Life and i'm used
TO and i.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Love it good to talk, To. You brandon we appreciate.
Your time, all, right man. Thank You That's, BRENDAN HAYWARD nba,
tv analysts Creator Of. Tallest tales Over At These tallest tales.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
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Speaker 2 (32:09):
Listen Live, sam amic senior writer over At the athletic
he is Down In. San, antonio sam let me ask.
You This jalen brunson Leads the knicks to. The Championship
Is jalen brunson the greatest nick of?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
All time.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
It's gramaix good to. See you is he the greatest
nick of?
Speaker 7 (32:28):
All time? It's maybe? YOU know i mean that was
quick side story from the.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Playoff.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
ROAD here i was at an establishment last night with
the lovely daughter Of Jan, Patrick Ewing So, randy ewing
so she might have something to say about. This debate,
you know there's a long list of. GREAT knicks i
don't care to be honest. With You where jalen falls in.
That debate i'd like the other, Debate better like this
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six to an.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Under thing is. Is Wild chris paul deserves to be on.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
That list But but jalen is doing the type of
stuff that sparks, these debates.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
Doing the type of stuff that, you know not to
have somebody catch.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
As STRAIGHT but i keep laughing About The, becky hammond
like the whole Commentary where becky, you know said so
long Ago that jalen could not be the number one
guy on a, championship team and she stood on, that
recently which was, kind of, you.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Know strange he's just. Been.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Incredible man he's fun to watch and, you know, you
Know On west, coast BASE so i don't See the knicks,
as much, and buddy To watch jalen do what he
did in the, fourth quarter it. Was fun it was
neat to see because it, was, like oh this dude
is as advertised when it.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Matters most what's been.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
The vibe Around the spurs last couple.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Of, days fine they're pretty for a, Young group they're
they're pretty.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Even keeled they, you know, they're mature, You.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Know wenby i'm always really interested how he's going to
handle his voice and. HIS messaging i did think it
was interesting after game one that, you know and you
know this like he kind of wait said no time
sliding in quite a few comments about, your confidence and,
You know i'm not worried in, the slightest, you know
just projecting the kind of way you would expect for a. Confident,
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guy uh they. SEEM fine, i mean you just hit
the nail on the head when you talked about. Game
two is, the like let's do a false check if
they lose. Game two you know they're gonna be fine
if they split this thing. At home and not to,
put you, you know give you a. HOMEWORK assignment i
did wonder because you detailed the teams that went down
oh two when they were, you know on. The road
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have we had a champion who lost the first two,
at home so, YOU know.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I forget what the six.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
HEAT did i know they were another team that was
down oh two when they came back To. Beat dallas
but that's the only one that there haven't been that
netty that have come back.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
From too it's only been. A.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Handful yeah because when you said this was, MUST win
i was going to give you a hard time and
say it, was hyperbole and then as you laid, it
out it, was like it's.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Pretty important so, What, Happens.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Sam i'm fact, based here. ALWAYS fact i don't think
it's ever didn't Hap. WITH miami i think They were
they lost the first two on, the road and those
are THE teams i mentioned lost on the road.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
As well so Adjustment For. San antonio what do you
think is the biggest adjustment they're gonna make going into. Game, two.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Well it's the same thing they've battled throughout, the playoffs
which is that as Great as, wemby is as part
of this is youth and and it's him trying to
figure out the. Chess match.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
He's inconsistent he has a, roller coaster, you know kind
of element to. His game so they've got to you already,
Said this they've got to get him. Inside, more yes
it's it was super fun when he hit that thirty
five footer in the last round in.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Game, one, okay fine but getting.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
Pushed Out, by kat getting pushed out By og Nanobi And.
Mitchell robinson the, PROBLEM is i just don't know how
you know doable that is because this is literally the,
roster construction and that you should want to have to
Go at wemby and going into. THE series i wrote
a whole PIECE where i talked to some front office
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folks about the domino effect Of what victor. Was doing
and the, reality is the irony is is that like
most of THE people i, talked to you pointed To
the knicks roster construction as what you. Should want a
Guy like kat who's, seven feet two hundred and.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
Forty pounds, You know mitch, big boy a lot.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Of halft, you know he Can bully webby and he's
athletic enough to keep up.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
With him same you know og and what. He brings
So getting victor going first.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
And, foremost secondly you know the others In The west
finals For, the spurs you Know, D'erre Fox, Julian Champenny,
dylan harper all the way. Down line Kill the johnson
had a fantastic finish to. That series, you know those
guys have got to show up because, you, Know yes
vic was six to twenty one and struggled, a bit
but but the other guys weren't weren't helping.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Him Either What, Kevin johnson.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Gelly eight minutes in this game one that. Was, SURPRISING
yeah a Thought sixth man Of. THE year i thought
he'd be a natural guy to put on towns. For
stretches that surprised me a. Little minutes he's Got we,
YOU know i thought that the fatigue sam was a
little bit overblown coming into, the SERIES because i thought
three days was a, long TIME and i thought they
thought being at home was going to be enough For
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san antonio to recharge the batteries and not make fatigue
as big an issue.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
As Somewhere but i'm Watching that.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Game one i'm sitting There and i'm Looking At Victor
webbin yama kind of grabbing his knees in the. First
quarter i'm looking at some of these other guys just
not look like they've had the same energy that they
did early in that Series In. Oklahoma city how big
a fact do you think fatigue's going to be in this,
game too and potentially the rest of.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
The series, It's Significant but, i'm confused you, know AGAIN
like i was Not around victor that much all.
Speaker 8 (37:50):
Season long so now you know This is we've done
this a.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Long time you get in the gym with these guys
and you try to study them and learn how they're
wired how They operate victor and the way that he
crashes out from a fatigue standpoint is puzzling, BECAUSE yes
i understand he's seven, foot four but he's not lugging
around three, hundred pounds. You know but he absolutely does
have these moments and you just hit, on it like
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early in the game when he's clutching at the knees or,
you know looking for a blow that doesn't. Make sense
and that's where as, transcendent great, you know and talented as,
he is the inconsistency part has got to be TRICKY For,
ms johnson, you know from a, rotation standpoint because, you
know is that tied to not having as much of
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a break As the knicks coming out Of The, West
finals like that's a little hard, To believe like, you said,
three days so.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
They got to fight.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Through that you didn't see any of that From, the
KNICKS and i don't really think as necessarily because of,
you know that long stretch that they had.
Speaker 8 (38:46):
To Rest but.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Wenby's.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
GREAT again i keep kind of hitting the, same point,
he's great but he comes and goes.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
A bit how short a leash do you Think D
aaron fox will be? On tonight.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Very curious to see it because there are bigger picture
implications of that kind of. A choice i've been asked
this a couple, of times and my thing Is the
spurs from a, culture standpoint are obviously, incredibly savvy and
they know that the moment you open the door To
The dylan harper era and you Put, the aaron, you
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know on, the bench, you know, you know because of
the stakes of what's going on, right now like he's
going to be a, domino effect and that's very tricky
for them from a, planning standpoint, because yes they have
this historical Backdrop where Montage and nobili famously agrees to
go to the Bench With greg popovich's, you know kind,
of nudging and the rest.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
Is history He's a Hall.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Of famer montagenobili was not making sixty million dollars, a
year which is What the aaron is on track, to
make and so the solution is not quite.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
As easy Even.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
If daron at some point was willing to yield to
the young fella in terms of, a contract, roster construction that's.
An issue so but you got a championship on, the,
line so, you KNOW would i be.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
Shocked to see it, You know i'd. BE surprised i
don't know how short the. Leash is dylan didn't show.
Out though that's the.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
Other thing he had a good, first half but four
points in the, second half, you know he faded.
Speaker 8 (40:14):
A bit but the more pressure that he applies with
his play.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
And then With, the aaron, you know if he keeps
doing what he did in, game one which is having a,
hard time then, you know we'll see.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
What happens i'm Talking.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
To Sam an mix AND you're nba writer over At
the Athletic In san Antonio for game two OF The nba. Finals,
tonight sam we are right around three weeks away FROM The,
nba draft which is three weeks away from the self
imposed deadline That The milwaukee bucks have To. Trade giannistindecompo
what have you been hearing over the last couple of
Days about giannis and how likely do you think it
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Is that giannis has traded Before the?
Speaker 3 (40:49):
June draft.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Jeems.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
Very, likely admittedly you know that it's not often you have,
an owner, you know publicly framing, the timeline And That's.
Jimmy haslm did you know we Just saw Jimmy has
them do a blockbuster Trade With miles garrett IN the
nfl showing he's certainly ready to pull that trigger if he.
NEEDS to i do expect it. To, happen miami as,
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you know is the. Loudest noise, you know you continue to.
Hear that BUT what i tried to write the other
day with My colleague, eric name and it was interesting to,
get into, is yes it appears, you know everybody you
talk To says miami at, the deadline had a deal that,
was closed had a deal that they thought was going.
To Happen the bucks ended up, backing out and so
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the noise is Tied. To miami but there's also some,
intel discussion, you know kind of Understanding that giannis has
questions about What that miami roster would look like on
the other side of. A deal, you know it reminds
me Of The carmelo anthony dilemma when he Went from
denver To, The knicks like you don't want to get,
the roster go to the place that you're excited to,
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be to, you know, be in and then have a
hard time contending for. A championship and that is where,
you know we'll see what happens in the next few
weeks because in one of, YOUR backyards i Think the
celtics are pretty intriguing options where, you know in terms of,
being competitive you know if you do Something. With boston
and this is what we had Heard from, ghanis's side
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that the intrigue.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
Is real, you know the Restect For, joe mizula the
way that he might see. That roster SO do i
think it? CHANGES things i don't, know yet but, YOU
know i do think that's.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
WORTH watching i could See why yiannis would want to Play.
IN boston i still struggle to See why boston would
give up the kind of assets it would need to
give up to go and. Get, you honest not that
they aren't, considering it But if i'm Running, The celtics
i'm Not Trading jalen brown and a couple of draft Picks.
For YOSTI the coopo not in a reaction to a
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bad first round loss To the philadelphia seventy, six ers
MOSTLY because i Don't trust.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Giannis's.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
HEALTH sam i don't trust that he's had multiple years
of soft tissue injuries and you're going to have to
give this guy a multi year contract at the. Full
max now you're talking about having two full max guys
on your Roster In jason Tatum, and jostinecom both both
of whom have dealt with significant injuries over the last couple.
OF years I Know jalen brown is not a. PERFECT
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fit i Know the celtics want to get more pressure on.
The Rim brad stevens talked, about that but, to me
the risk is just too big to go all in
on a Player like giannis at.
Speaker 8 (43:29):
This, stage well and it's very. Sensitive too Like The
jalen brown thing that you just.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
Hit on it's like when the noise got loud a
couple of months Ago regarding dalen and how he saw
him the season and all the chatter about what he
said on the live stream that it was the most
fun he'd ever had and that was confusing because, you
know it just set this message that he wanted his.
Own team as you Know, the celtics, you know they
went to great lengths to kind of massage that situation
(43:54):
and get things back in a. Good place and they're
not the only team dealing with This like miami is
and This is. Giannis Related miami is is loud with it.
Right now they don't care if everybody knows that They're
chasing giannis because they don't really Care What tyler hero
feels about.
Speaker 8 (44:08):
Getting traded But like boston's got to.
Speaker 7 (44:11):
Be sensitive, you Know the knicks are unofficially out because
of what. They're doing but You Remember Karl anthony towns
was not real thrilled to have his name attached to the.
Speaker 8 (44:21):
Honest discussion you.
Speaker 7 (44:22):
Know previously like that IS where i think we could
see a wild card team come, on strong, you know
and come out of, the shadows so, to SPEAK because
i think there's a lot of teams that are absolutely
looking at this and, interested here but also have to
pay attention to their own locker.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Room dynamics if somebody offered you one hundred thousand dollars
for your press Pass for game Three In, new york
would you?
Speaker 7 (44:47):
TAKE it, i, mean journalistically. ABSOLUTELY not i would never
consider such. A thing I think i'm you're a nick
journalist if. There's, so yeah but the sphere of, your,
QUESTION like, i, mean, yeah hunter.
Speaker 8 (45:03):
K that's i'm good.
Speaker 7 (45:04):
With that that's, you know the production VALUE on tv
these days is pretty. Pretty high i'll hang out with
somebodies and watch this thing on a big old projector
screen and, you know laugh all the way to the bank.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
And they transcribe all the quotes. For, you sam it's
all available to get me.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
Fired out you.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
GOT kids i got a. Kid now, it's like, you
know you gotta look out for. Number, One, there Sam,
good sam.
Speaker 8 (45:30):
Let me add on to.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
This fan i'm fired up to Go To new, York
Man like I'm A, West COASTER so i don't KNOW
if i would take that money BECAUSE like I don't
i don't see the garden.
Speaker 8 (45:38):
VERY often i don't see, the chaos, YOU.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Know i Don't really sacramento Guy In. New york there.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
We go this is What We sacramento guy text by
the way to get your take quickly on uh a
question that came up, more dysfunctional.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
More irrelevant. Right Now The brooklyn nets Are The.
Speaker 7 (45:53):
SACRAMENTO kings, i, mean Uh the kings have that they're
trying to work on and to get out of.
Speaker 8 (46:02):
THE ditch i don't Know what, brooklyn's DOING so i
actually probably Go.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
At brooklyn they got young Players, in, Brooklyn, Though, sam
like at least you've got like some Hope. Like sacramento
who wants to be there? Right now like who wants
to be part of that team at.
Speaker 8 (46:15):
The moment It, is listen it.
Speaker 7 (46:18):
IS painful, i mean as, you know You have mike
Brown garon fox in. The finals you have ogananob a
Guy that i've contested and contend that they should have
traded for to Take the beam team to the. Next
level there's all kinds of six Degrees of sacramento pains
IN This nba finals.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Right, now yeah you got to Hate that sacramento watching
their former head coach and their former star compete for.
A championship one of them is going to win it
at the end the next couple. Of weeks, Great, Stuff
sam good to catch up, with YOU and i will
see You In New. York city, try to, you know
keep it under control there these late Nights In. New
york they don't Close In New.
Speaker 7 (46:51):
York, city yeah we know. About that i've met with you.
Out there you got it, all, Right buddy Good, Stuff,
sam sam and it
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