June 12, 2026 • 52 mins
Inside the NBA host Ernie Johnson joins Dan to talk about the NBA Finals and whether Draymond Green has been fired. Arkansas Head Men’s Basketball Coach John Calipari stops by to talk about the NBA Finals, the scourge of gambling in college basketball and the situation across college sports navigating NIL and recruiting – plus a story about trying to recruit Jalen Brunson. Former MLB pitcher CC Sabathia talks to Dan about whether he’s rooting for the Knicks and whether we’ll see more combo hitter/pitcher players considering Shohei Ohtani’s brilliance. Former US Men’s National Team goalkeeper Brad Guzan joins Dan to break down the chances for the US team to push for their first World Cup title and the growth of soccer in America.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ernie Johnson, NBA on ESPN. Let me give you the
official introduction here. Tune into Inside the NBA with Ernie, Charles, Shaq,
Kenny and Draymond Green pre game and a halftime on ABC,
postgame on ESPN. Tip off for Game five Saturday between
the Nixon Spurs eight thirty Eastern on ABC. I'm a
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professional broadcaster, Ernie.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yes, you are in the every sense of the word.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Then thank you, Ernie.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
I do have to make one correction, however, Okay, Draymond
Green will not be joining us for Game five. He
was there for games three and four in New York,
but will not be on game five.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Has he been fired?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
It was very contentious. No, I think the plan was
just all along.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Hey, Graymond's going to be in New York with the
game three and four, so and we always agree time
with him too.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
But that's game.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
The Game five lineup will be everything that you mentioned,
minus dream on Green.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
How much of what is said off the air can
you use on the air, because a lot of times
some of the best stuff comes up when you're not
on camera where you're just sitting around talking.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I think there's some that that is shared, and I
don't the way it works is a lot of time, hey,
like we were talking in the green room about blah
blah blah, yeah and then and so I don't know
if anybody was really intending for that to be used.
But I think apparently anytime you step into the studio
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or into the arena, if you say it, even in confidence,
but there's a good chance it will it will show
up on the air.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I remember Football Night in America, Tony Dungee would say
a lot of things off the air that were really interesting,
and I was like, Tony, when you put on a
microphone when you're in in my vicinity, I feel like
it's fair game when you're saying things unless you tell
me otherwise. But Tony is not Shaq and Charles with
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their comments though.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
No, it's once you've put a tie on, it's all
out there. So if you show up, if you have
a jacket on, what you say might be used. But
and those guys aren't shy about that, and a lot
of times that does give you an insight into you know,
because like Chuck was yelling every time San Antonio missed
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a three the other night in the green room. There
that's eight of them, and so that's going to be
used even though it's not technically on the air.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Then the Taylor Swift photos they like to say, went viral.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Ernie, how did that happen?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
That is what the kids say, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (02:55):
They do?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And maybe the grandkids say that as well.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
See here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
And see I still had this feeling that if there's
an opportunity like that. And I'd never met tavior Swick,
but I knew she was going to be at the game,
and I said, man, I need to get a picture
with her because the grandkids will love it. I've got
five grandkids and my kids, like my daughter's like like
like Carmen and Maggie and my daughter in law Quinn
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have all gone to see her, so they're all swifties.
So for me to go up to her and say, hey,
Ernie Johnson in Sunday and it's like but there was
like a light of recognition in her eye like yeah,
like Travis watches this all the time, and Travis has
been on the pod. So I said, hey, look, you
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just got to make me the coolest grandpa of all time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Would you take a picture with me?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
And she was great, you know, and then I got
the picture and then I just waited for the thread
on my texts with the kids to just take on
a life of their own. So it was really that
It's a cool moment. I was glad I could do
that for them.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And then the Wu Tang plan You've got a picture
with them as well well.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
And see last year they asked me to do the
voice over announcing their their tour, which surprised me, Dan
as it probably surprised you as well, but and I said, sure,
I'd be honored.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
To do that. So I did.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
And then here I say, oh, they're going to be
on at half and I go out there and we're
all just and it's like like I.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Was part of the clan.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You know all the lyrics, don't.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You, Della della bill y'all?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He is Ernie Johnson, He'll be with Charles and Shaq
and Kenny No, Draymond Green coming up on Saturday. It
feels like every other week, maybe every month. I say,
I'd never seen that before, or when you think you've
seen everything, and we had that on Wednesday night. How
do you how do you compartmentalize that to go what
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just happened?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I mean, I didn't really know what had just happened.
That's why I kind of asked the guys, what did
we just see here? But it was surreal. And you know,
to see a professional crowd like that where nobody wants
to move, they just want to sit there and celebrate
and just dance. And I that's like the aftermath. But
to watch the whole thing unravel in front of your
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eyes is kind of amazing to see New York come
back like that. But okay, so we saw him do
that against Cleveland in Game one. Twenty two down, was
seven and a half minutes left, and I was thinking,
as we were watching this fourth quarter, so this is
a lot more manageable than that Cleveland game was at
this point, even though the number was huge, the twenty nine.
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Every time they started reown a mini got it under twenty,
it's under fifteen, Oh it's ten, And this is a
game and there's plenty of time left. So it was
an amazing thing to watch. And I and and Dan.
You know this when you if you're doing a show
from a set like there's one at Madison Square Garden,
where we do halftime that's five miles high. But when
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you're sitting on stools at center court of the garden
when this has just happened, I mean, it's just you're
just trying to keep your look around, make sure you
see everything that's going on, and enjoy all of that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It was. It was surreal.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And I was thinking, so I as I add to
the to the World's Longest Answer, I was thinking of
moments that I had had that were similar for me
in just these thirty seven years I've been around Turner and.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And I'm thinking I was at the British Open.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
I was calling Jack's spinal round at the British Open
as he's not going to make the cut, and you
watch from your tower as the streets suddenly and gradually
become full filled with all these golf fanatics. So when
Jack comes to the eighteenth at the Old Course, I mean,
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the scene was unbelievable. That was That was one of
those like, well, I haven't seen that before. I saw
Dan Jansen went an Olympic gold medal in Norway in
front of all these flag waving Norwegians, and you know,
his story had been so dramatic and there wasn't a
dry eye in the arena when it happened, and Raoul
(07:37):
Labanyas hit the two home runs against the Orioles, and
I was fortunate enough to be calling that.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
In fact, when you have CC on.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
That might be something you would ask me because he
was he was on that Yankee team and that mayhem
that was at Yankee Stadium that night. So there are
these certain things that just stand out that are men
their goosebump moments, and you just never forget them.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Anything come close to your father's call of Hank Aaron
seven hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, no, that was.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
That was on just a personal note, and that's a
that's a very good one to bring up, because yeah,
that was. That was special. But my dad didn't call
seven fifteen. He called he called seven fourteen on the
radio because it was a radio TV thing. But seven
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fifteen was called by Milo Hamilton, my dad's colleague back then.
Oh okay, well my dad did call five six and
seven hundred, which was awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Those are really Were you at the game with seven fifteen?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yes, yes, I was. That was. Yeah, that was an
awesome you never that was.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
That was tremendous. That was just one of those those
you know, you knew it was going to happen eventually, Dann.
But when you see that moment and you see like
Bill Buckner scaling the wall trying to you know, you
never you never forget all the details. And Craig Seger
with that trench coat at home Plate, you know, with
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the same haircut he's had in his entire year, and
that Network wish coat that he's got on, and he's
he's sticking the.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Mic in there. I think it was. It looks like
a radio Shack thing he got in.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Hey, Henry, I feel bad that these guys are so big,
you know, literally so big with Shack and Charles on
the set that it looks like your feet are kind
of dangling. They don't get to touch the floor while
Shack and Charles are kind of enveloping their seats there.
So your stage manager maybe needs to help you a
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little bit there.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Well, they're actually resting on a part of the chair,
they're not actually dangling. But I do feel somewhat like
somewhat like I'm I can't wait till they invite me to.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Be growing up table. Those guys look like they're having
a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Maybe I'll get the suit over there, but they're dude,
that's those are one of the that's one of the
times like when anytime you're sitting next to Shack, you know, Dan,
I'm six too, Okay, I'm not a I'm not just
but next to him, I look like like a child
and so and that, and so they put me at
the In fact, let's lower Ernie's chair a little bit
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to make it a little more profound.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You're you're sneaky tall at six.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Too, sneaky tall, sneaky.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'm you know, the physicality, I know that we look
at it sometimes, whether you're old school and you go,
this is nothing I remember back in our day. But
the new NBA maybe, like is is this physical for
the new NBA as opposed to what we saw in
the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I'm I'm not out there with these guys, I don't know,
you know, but when you when you watch it, it's like, yeah,
that I mean that. I guess that's physical to an extent,
But it's not like, you know, the stuff we saw now.
I mean, and again, the stuff we used to see,
if we saw it now, guys would be suspended for
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four years. You know, I'm sorry, Uh, you're not playing
in that game and you must leave the state.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
It's like that's it's amazing. So uh no, I think
there does get there. There is a physical nature to it,
but you don't see you know, the stuff we used
to see was just blatant.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Hey, no, no, I'm not not only am I going
to contest this.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I'm going to knock you into the third row and
then you're gonna dust yourself off and we're gonna keep playing. No,
it's it's the physical I get it's all in.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
This game was more physical than that game where these
guys came out with more aggression than that game.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But yeah, I don't I don't get tied up in
all of that.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You vote won a lot of Sports Emmys. Do you
have one nearby in your office?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I do, but it's yeah my office at home. I do,
But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I would just curious, you know, like when I have
cost us on, he has a room, he has an
Emmy room. Yeah, go get it.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, here we go. Ernie Johnson inside.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
The NBA, Charles Shaq, Kenny Smith, No, Draymond Green.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Coming up on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
He's probably deciding which sports Emmy then he would like
to show.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Oh, there you go, that looks like a fresh one, Ernie.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Uh, let's see.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
I don't know that's a twenty fifteen. I don't know, yes,
But your question.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Was, I'm just curious where they were that they if
they were close by, like you know, Costas when I
interview him, it's right there. He's basically saying, look at me,
You're a loser.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So I've got them up here.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I've got this big bookcase thing the TV there where
I watch the games, and so they are sprinkled around
the bookshelves there, but always.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
One with an easy reaching distance for moments like this.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Costa's hands them out for Halloween. I mean, that's their doorstops.
Have fun in San Antonio. It is not only you can.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I hate packing, Dan, by the way, I hate packing.
I just finished doing that this morning.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Don't you have somebody who brings a suit to San
Antonio for you?
Speaker 8 (13:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
No, I bring all my stuff and then i'm and
I bring my office basically in a carry on with
a printer and all that stuff. And so I hate packing,
but I the journey the destination is great. The journey
can be a little taxic. You can write that down
because it's pretty profound.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And then hold on, maybe I can win a Sports Timmy.
The destination I don't know. I don't remember what about
the journey.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
The journey is. If the journey leads to the destiny.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
You like the destination, you don't like the journey.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
And when the journey involves packing for three cities, yes,
or three trips?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Are you packing to go to New York as well?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Yes, I'm packing for seven games, okay, knowing all along
that it might be just one more game and it
might be all this packing for nothing, or that I
actually needed it.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Whatever, I always found.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I got to make room for this.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh you.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Always it's always an issue, very tough getting through TSA.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well, good luck in packing. Thanks and uh thanks for
joining us as Almo.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I love talking to you, Dan, I always do. It's
always a pleasure or man, great, great to reconnect with you.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Well, what sneakers do you have on right now?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I do not have sneakers on right now. I've got
flip flops. I got combat flip flops on.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, well you got you got sneakers picked out for
game five.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, for five, six and seven.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Ye.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
And that's part of the problem with packing now because
I have to try to make the appropriate shoe choice.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
It's I feel great.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Shame when I can really get down to thinking about
how much time it takes.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Me to pack.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You're kind of whining here? Am I in little? It
feels like that.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I know, I just know the packing thing is just
And anytime I feel like I'm getting whiny, then I
just kind of look at this.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
This sport's emmy. Yeah, there's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Thanks from thanks for allowing me to just these.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Thank you, Ernie, have a great week.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Thank you man.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
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Speaker 2 (16:47):
He is Arkansas head coach. He won a national championship
back in twenty twelve, three times Naysmith College Coach of
the Year. We look at all the awards that he's
got and he was in the garden for Game four
wearing a suit as if you were coaching the game.
How did you end up at the garden on Wednesday?
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Come on, now, you know Carl Towns is in that game,
the Aaron Fox is in that game. Calvin Johnson's in
that game. I can call Leon and West and say, hey, boys,
I need a ticket. And you know they were a
little steep, they were expensive.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Wait you had to buy them?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Be okay, Well, I'm going to feel bad that you
had to spend money to see your former players, but
you didn't show up like you were ready to coach
in a game. When's the last time you thought about
coaching in the NBA or you were broached about coaching
in the NBA?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
No, I my path. I ran this path and and
when everybody asked me about decisions in the NBA, this,
this game and that game, and I want to talk
about some of this stuff today because driving me crazy.
But I have to remind everybody I coached the Nets
and they fired me. So why are you asking me
what I would do in an NBA game? But you know, no,
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that game. I gotta tell you that game what's driving
me crazy. I heard the guy get on before I
jumped on here and say, you know this is the
worst that he must add money on the game, because
if you're watching that just as a fan, that's pure enjoyment. Now, well,
I was so excited about We're in New York. The
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fans did not boo the Knicks at all one time
during that game. Now, they booed the officials, and they
got on pretty hard, but they didn't. All they were
there was to give them a chance and to pick
them up and even down when we all went down
in the dugout after at halftime, all the fans down there,
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all those stars that I was like taking a back from,
they were all still into the game. It was a
great sight to see. And I'm just telling everybody, instead
of picking.
Speaker 11 (19:08):
It apart each player, how about we just enjoy what's
happening because this may be one of the better finals
ever and we're able to sit there and join it,
some of us lucky enough to be in the building.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Now, how many people will say they were at game
four twenty years from now, ten million? I was at
the game. I was at the game. Well, you weren't
at the game. There was only twenty thousand there.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
But coach, you can say I was at the garden.
That doesn't mean you were in the garden. So you're
going to have people who were probably semantics. I was
at the garden that night, and nobody can refute that
that's true.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
That figures you'd come up with something. Of course, yeah,
because you'll be one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
But go ahead, okay, are you new to social media
that we don't pick apart play and the team and
the moments?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
What are you talking about here?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
All right?
Speaker 7 (20:05):
So here's my point. And as I go through this,
I say this, but this is the life we chose,
and you're gonna get the other side of it. But
let me say this, Daron Fox, stop on the Aaron Fox.
He's playing with the high ankles. Fray probably shouldn't be
playing he would normally dunk that layup, dump that layup.
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If he would have dunked it, he's the hero, the
greatest thing that and now he's the biggest goat and
he made Well what about other guys in the game.
What would have happened to Josh if he missed that
dunkin they had lost? I mean, so you can't how
about it. They want to get on Mitch, who I
think is doing a great job with a young team. Okay,
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Ronnie Harper's son is the real deal. I did not
realize how good he was until I sat there and
watched him.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Did you recruit him?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
I could. He was going to Rutgers the whole.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Time I tried.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
You couldn't afford him.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
No, they were paying big at that time. No, not really,
he was going there from day one. I don't know
why he was from near there or something, but anyway,
So now Mitch runs an out of bounds play the
last play with one point two whatever, the guy is
wide open, they're going to win the game, and Carl
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Town gets his little pinky and deflects it where the
kid has to reach down to go get the ball,
and they win the game. You could do everything right
and lose, and you're right, it's the life you chose,
you're gonna get crap. But the three the Jalen made.
How about the step back that Carl made into their
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bench for a three? I'm like, what am I watching?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, but we were seeing mistakes, coach, And if you
were coaching, you would told you would have told Darren
Fox that the points aren't important. It's getting you know,
time off the clock that's the most important.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
But two points doesn't we have a game?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Depends on how you coach. Sometimes I'm saying there's three
minutes in a game that we're up whatever, I'll say,
we're four baskets away. They can't catch us. That's another
way of coaching that we're four we get four more buckets,
they can't catch us. There's not enough time. And so
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sometimes when you play defense in football what do they
call it, You're like, okay, let's really prevent defense, so
it prevents you from winning. How about if he dribbled
it out and got fouled. How about Wendy missed two
freak throws?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I agree, I agree these are.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
So you're yeah, but that's not the Let me tell
you this. In the first half. They were so good.
They were going to have eighty eighty points at halftime.
And I'm sitting there's nothing you can do. What are
you're gonna get on? Mike? You know the greatest thing
Mike did. Mike Brown left Alvarado in. He left him
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in when Alverado made that shot. I'm like, my thought is,
probably need to take him out. Now, he helped you.
Now let's go. Mike left him in. He makes another shot,
he makes a basket, he plows him down. I'm like saying,
so some of this is your gut, some of it
is a bounce of the ball. But here's again, Dan,
are you in Maine right now?
Speaker 9 (23:33):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
No, no, no, I'm at the home Bandkip.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Okay, so how about just toes up watch the game.
But problem is there's betting, and that drives everything to
another level. That guy probably lost a grand and he
wants to kill somebody. WI should have won. I could
have won five grand and I lost it. You know
(23:57):
I take that out. I'm not even you know, I'm
not worried. I'm watching the game thinking I just watched
one of the great games of all time. I sat
next to Adam Sandler, and his wife Jackie, who were
great Chris Rock. I went up. I'm standing there and
John McEnroe was walking by me and he looks at
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me and I shake his hand. I said, I'm John
Caliperry says, I know you are, coach. I don't know
who knows me, who doesn't know me, but all the stuff.
But the fans.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Never boomed, never left either.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
It's a come on now you've been to New York stuff.
I don't care if it's the Yankees, the Giants, the Jets,
the Mets, you'll get booed like in a second. These
people are so you know what it is. It's they're
all in this together. You could feel it and building.
He was crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
He's the Hall of Fame coach John Cali Perry joining
us on the program. Did you recruit Jalen Brunson? Great story.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
He played in West Virginia in a tournament, and I'm
watching him, saying, this kid's really good, already going to Villanova.
What he committed to Villanova? What I get Jay right?
I'm watching the kid with Jay right on the phone.
I said, Jay, I see this kid down here. It's
down to you and us now because I'm recuting out
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of this kit and Jay and I bust out laughing.
I even called him the other day and I said, Jay,
you got three guys that won you two national titles.
Are ready to win a world championship? Like and again
we talked about kat when we talked about dn Fox,
what about Keldon Johnson. Kelton Johnson is sixth Man of
the Year, allowed step back from being a starter so
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he could be one of these guys. I mean, and
for him, Jay and me to sit there and watch
all this stuff, nothing makes you prouder. And when you're
watching and he's going to defend his guy. Look, Jalen
threw a ball a way that almost cost him a game.
He got a little trapped, he looked away and threw it.
(26:07):
Josh gave up an offensive rebound that was going to
be the game. He missed a breakaway dunk. But you
know what, Jay would defend his guys, and I'm gonna
defend mine. I mean, I think they all three played well.
One's playing with a bad ankle. But I'll come back
to it is the life we chose.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yes, how aware are you of the point spread for
your games at Arkansas?
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Never don't want to know, but.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It's always there. It's omnipresent. Coach.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
So I had a guy when I was at Kentucky.
I had a guy that would be with us, and
he knew that I knew, he knew the point spread.
And if we were going to a game and he
would say it's eighteen, I was so happy. I'd sit
back because those some of the guys aren't wrong. They're like, oh,
I know, they're not wrong. But if we're going to
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a game and I'm thinking, yeah, we're double digit here,
And if I asked him and he said, yeah, it's
a four point four points, what how's it? Only? Oh shit,
they know something we don't know. So that's why I
don't want to know either way. Yeah I don't. I'm not.
I'm not looking at it thinking about it.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I just I look at the authority of the NC
double idom Do they have authority when.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
It comes not?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Now?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No?
Speaker 7 (27:31):
No? And I hey, look that the that the stuff
this has gotten away from us. Do I think putting
the government involved in our business is going to work? Probably?
Not who wants the government involved. But we're at a point,
at least short term a two year anti just two
(27:53):
years for us to get stuff away from the courts.
How do we make whatever these lawsuits are go to
federal court not state because state has We're gonna let
him play.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, I don't care what he did.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Well, he grows out, couldn't do this. This guy's out
in it. Yeah, we're gonna have this guy one game penalty.
What but it's in state court, it's not federal and
so that kind of stuff. But yeah, we need help
right now. Would I hope that we wouldn't need government, Yeah,
but I'm in this. We cannot leave college sports the
(28:32):
way it is. Another year cannot. So whatever we do,
we got to do something. Whether it's the bill that's
out there right now, whether it's a scaled back for
a two year reprieve, I don't know, but we need
to do something.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
All right.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I need an answer on this last question. Okay, what
year did you miss those layups in our gym?
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Did you play for Donald Hurt? Did you play for
him at Dayton?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Coach was there when I was there? He was in
a no.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
No, he was head coach. I was going to say, no,
I didn't miss any layups at U Mass.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yes you did.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
No, No, they said he does the radio. This is
an n A And I said, hey, you are crazy.
How can he talk basketball? He can't make layups? How
does that work?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
This is an NCAA violation because you're lying right now.
If I put you under oath, would you have said
what you just said?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Coach?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Okay, Okay, I want an answer. Okay, promise me you
will give me an answer on this. A name, Okay,
promise yeah, Okay. Give me the most important player for
whether it was at Kentucky. Well, let's say Kentucky. Who
was the most important player you had at Kentucky? Not
(29:51):
best most important player? Well, let me say this, and
you can even do Memphis if you want to.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Okay, Darius a Cup should be a top four, maybe
even better, maybe one or two in this draft. Malik
Thomas should be in this first round. And because of
what the Knicks did where they're playing veteran guys that
went to college for four years. You got og he went,
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he went for a couple of years. Carl's the only
one that went one year, but he's been in the
league seven years. Though. That's giving Trevn Brazil a second look, like, hey,
we need to take a guy that's been in college
four years and do what the Knicks did. And then
my guy Darius and Malik as young kids. Someone's getting
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a good player. Does that answer your question?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
No, because I think Marcus Camby is probably the most
important player a T career.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
How does the guy lead like him lead?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You messed?
Speaker 7 (30:55):
We were top twenty, but when he came, we became
number one in the country. He is a top fifty
player in high school or college in the history of
our game. He's the top fifty. They can name all
these guys what he did at UMass. He's the top
fifty player and the greatest guy. To this day, he
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and I still stay in touch, and I thank him
for what he did for my career because by us
getting him helped my career screw up even more.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And back then you couldn't pay people above board, so
you had to pay him under the table.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
You know how I recruited him. When I went in
he said, I said, what do you want to be?
He said, I want to be a shooting guard.
Speaker 11 (31:39):
He's six eleven, you want to be a shooting guard.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
But we really needed this guy, and so I said, well, listen,
I'm not going to lie to you. If you want
to be a shooting guard, I'm going to let you
be a shooting now. I then followed up with but
we do post our shooting guards a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Great to talk to you. Enjoy the rest of the
basketball and thanks again.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Hey, let's just share these guys on and.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Of course, of course, yeah, mister positive, no yet, John Caliperi,
mister positive, thank you coach.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
All right, thanks, that's John Caliperi.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
All shame.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
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Speaker 2 (32:35):
CC Sabathia Hall of Famer World Series champin oh nine
had a chance to spend some time with him a
couple of days ago. He's got a podcast. It's on
Peacock MLB, according to CC, Wednesday at five Eastern on Peacock,
NBC Sports Now also available as a podcast. He was
there on Wednesday night, and I started my conversation by asking,
(33:01):
are you a diehard Knicks fan?
Speaker 6 (33:03):
No, I'm just I'm reagional with basketball.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
I'm a die hard raider, So I take so much
abuse in the fall that by the winter time. Whoever's
winning in basketball, I just rolled with that squad. So
I got lucky this year with the Knicks, so I
got to go to the Garden.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Okay, But when you were playing in New York with
the Yankees, how often would you go to a Knicks game?
Speaker 6 (33:23):
I went all the time.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
I went all the time because I gave up my
Warrior season tickets right then, because when I was in
when I was still in Cleveland, I had Warrior season tickets,
so I would go to the games in the offseason.
Then I had to give those up when we moved
here full time, so I started going to the Garden.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Who would you sit next to like celebrities?
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
Sat next to Tracy Morgan, I sat next to Spike before,
Chris Rod, Jon Stewart, the whole, the whole, the whole game.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
What about Yankee teammates that came to the games.
Speaker 9 (33:59):
Judge came of the games with me a couple of times.
I had a teammate Bearan Francisco came with me a
couple of times. And then like we would, we would
get sweets if if all of us were going, we
would get like a big suite to go to the game,
but we've always supported the next.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
But when you played with the Yankees, how often or
how where were you of celebrities there?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (34:21):
You you know, you know who's there, like, uh, when
Laura Michael was sitting back there or whoever else is
sitting back there, like you know who's who's in the house,
and like people pay attention to that for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
But especially in New York, but they come down on
the field pregame.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
It depending on who it was.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
But but even if they were just sitting like right
there in legends back there, Yeah, I mean you could
you could see who was who was there, so we
were always paying attention to that.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Did you acknowledge them?
Speaker 9 (34:48):
Yeah, if you if you were if you were good enough,
you could acknowledge it.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
When you're winning, it helps everything.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I was curious about this when Princey said, hey, you
want to get CC on and that is would you
rather throw ninety five but you had movement or let's
say you're throwing one O three like Jacob Mizerowski and
maybe it's just one O three, but straight I would.
Speaker 9 (35:20):
Take the ninety five with movement, just because I feel
like I can I can pitch with that and be
able to kind of move it around the plate. I
mean even if I mean if it depends on the
one off four, right with the one on three like Miserowski.
I think it's his trouble before this year was they
didn't throw enough strikes. I think in the last six
weeks just throwing the ball over the plate.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
He throws so.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Hard that even if you're on time, you've fouled off,
folling off a couple times they didn't get to his
breaking ball.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
So I think it's just about being able.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Whatever.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Whatever you can throw for a strike is what you
should throw.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
So miss could throw one hundred and three, but you
can't throw that for a strike, And maybe you should
throw ninety eight so that you can throw a strike,
kind of moved the ball around the plate and be
able to pitch a little bit. So I think the
biggest thing that you're seeing in his and the difference
in what he's doing now is that he's actually just
throwing the ball over the plate. Heah four walks in
all of mey, you know what I'm saying. So that right,
I mean him just like literally attacking offenses.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
I mean, with him being able to throw that hardest.
I mean, there's really nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Mark Grace once told me, he said, we'll catch up
to a fastball like you can throw it, like we'll
hit a fastball. It's the other stuff that we have
trouble with.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Yeah, for sure. I mean even if you look at
like Mo.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
Mo threw one pitch his whole career and everybody kind
of knew which way it was going or felt like
they had a beat on it. And he's the greatest
pitcher of all time, you know what I mean. So
if you can make the ball move and get it
off the barrel a little bit, it's so hard to
hit even if you know what's coming. Because people felt
like they knew what Marionnod's gonna throw and still couldn't.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Get to him.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Was that teachable that pitch?
Speaker 9 (37:01):
It's teachable, Yes, it's teachable. You can throw a cutter,
but you can't throw it like him, you know what
I'm saying. Like he taught me how to throw that.
That's the cutter out threw at the end of my career,
same one Billy Connor's taught him, taught Andy Pettitt. All
every Yankee learned that cutter from Billy, But most is
just different, Like you play catch with them, it moves late.
(37:24):
Who's different. I've seen them hit people in the chest
with it. I've seen them hit people in the face
with it, and he's telling them it's coming. So yes,
I mean, you can learn the grip and you can
learn the philosophy of like where to throw it, but
nothing's going to.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Be like his Okay, but is that the most unhittable
pitch in the history of baseball?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
I mean, and I think it's because everybody knew it
was coming, like for twenty years.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
You know what he's throwing.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
I mean he started throwing the two seamer at the end,
maybe like the last three years, but for seventeen years straight.
I mean, in the playoffs, everything, He's pitching in the
big moments, and people feel like they know what's coming,
and it still can't get him on the bear.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Okay, what other pitch would be like Phil Nekro's knuckleball was.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Like Johan Santana's change up.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Oh my goodness, his change.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Up was was I mean, it was off the charge.
He would throw that thing right down the middle.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, if you guessed right.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Yeah, it's so good that he's just throwing it right
down the middle.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That's Harold. Harold Reynolds showed me a video. He said,
I'm gonna show you side by side of Johann Santana's
release point fastball change up.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
It was exactly the same. Yeah, he said.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Now, imagine being at the plate and you got to
decide is he throwing a fastball or a change up?
I mean he said that it was impossible to tell.
Speaker 9 (38:49):
Yeah, you literally have to guess. You got to pick one.
And and like you said, it looked exactly the same.
And the arm speed that he that he threw it with,
I think it helped all. I mean, I know it
helped me just watching him be able to throw it
as hard as he could. It helped me be able
to like trust that I can throw this thing as
hard as I can and it's gonna the grip is
gonna take the speed off and the scenes are gonna
(39:09):
make the ball move. So having a chance to like
watch him up close for so long in that division
definitely helped me.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Watch higeout CC Sabbathia Hall of Famer World Series CHAMPONOH
nine with the Yankees. Tommy john surgery feels almost write
a passage. It's inevitable for these pictures.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Now, yeah, it seems that way.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
I mean even younger, right, guys would coming to baseball
with Tommy Johns at.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
This point, And I tell the story that I have
a physical therapist. He said he had two different parents
who came to him and said, can you help us
get Tommy john surgery? And their sons were one was fourteen,
one was fifteen. They were getting it before they needed
Tommy John's surgery.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Yeah, I mean that's what they try to do to
get the rehab to be able to to throw harder.
Like people just assume. Well, I mean even now too,
like kids are pos, which are pitchers only, which I
don't understand. Like the funniest part about playing.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
Baseball is being able to play the field. Like who
just wants to pitch your whole life? You know what
I'm saying. So it's even it's even weird to see that.
Speaker 9 (40:18):
But yeah, I mean the guys that are pos that
feel like they want to pitch, you know, in college
or you know, maybe in the pros, they feel like,
you know, there's only so many throws in your arm,
and at some point you're gonna have to have Tommy John.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
I never had Tommy John. I was always on.
Speaker 9 (40:34):
Pitch counts even as a young as a young kid,
my dad had me on pitch counts, made sure only
three once a week, all these different things.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
So my arm is pretty healthy up until you know,
my last year.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
But I just think people try to get ahead of
it now, where you know, they feel like if a
guy's gonna throw this much or a kid's gonna throw
this much, let's go ahead and get the surgery out
of the way, and you know, try to try to
see if he can get to the big leagues. But yeah,
that's what I'm saying, Like, guy now are coming to
pro ball with one tiny John already and then maybe
(41:04):
having two while they're playing.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Otani's had the surgery and he's had a procedure, But
I wonder how many imitators is he going to create
in five years, ten years that we do let somebody
hit and pitch if they're like Schemes was a great
hitter in an Air Force academy. I mean, he was
a power hitter. I'm surprised that the Pirates wouldn't say, hey,
(41:28):
why don't we do get this novelty with schemes and
get him out there more often?
Speaker 9 (41:34):
Absolutely, Oregon, Jack Hagliol right like, he went to Florida,
He's a first rounder for Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
He can do both, I mean, but even like, there's
always guys that could do both. I felt.
Speaker 9 (41:44):
I heard Dave Winfield was a great pitcher in college
and you know, was able to kind of do both.
I would have thought by now it would be way
more guys, you know what, at least the opportunity to
hit and pitch.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
But even just.
Speaker 9 (41:57):
Seeing how good Kaglion was in college doing them both
and then them just kind of turning them into a hitter,
seems like, you know, it is just you know, just
one off with show Hayes, you know, the greatest baseball
player of all time, and he's the only one that
gets to you know, can do it on this level.
So I mean, hopefully there are more guys that can
(42:17):
do this. I don't think anybody's gonna be able to
do it on the level that he's doing it, but
there's definitely guys that can you know, do both.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Wait, you think he's going to be the greatest player
of all time.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
I think he already is.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
The greatest of all time.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
Who's better?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Well, I mean, babe, did I mean he won ninety
two games as his starter and then you hit seven
hundred and fourteen home runs and.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
Yeah, that was a different time though.
Speaker 9 (42:41):
Now he's playing in the era where this is the biggest, fastest,
strongest era that we've ever seen. And he's the fastest,
he's the biggest, He's the best. I mean, you know,
you combine him. He's one of the best hitters in
the league, and he's one of the best pitchers in
the league. And to be able to do it in
this era, I think, you know, my goat to me
is Barry Bonds, like I'll never you know, he's always
(43:03):
number one, But Barry can't go on throw seven shut out.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Any PAULI did you have CEC's hitting stints?
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yeah, for his career, Cec hit two oh seven, three
home runs, fifteen rbidm no steals.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
You know, I how to higher band average until like
those last three years, and I was like, I was
just trying to like hold on to like that two
fifty seven sounds so bad. I was hit like two
fifty to those last three years.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Okay, who did you homer off of? Since it's only three,
you got to remember, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (43:33):
Hit a homer off Homer Bailey, chan Ho Park and
uh Elizardo Ramirez.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
Those are the three guys.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Did you get those home run balls back?
Speaker 9 (43:45):
Well, Griffy, the first one I hit, he threw it
back in the stand. So only have the bat from
that ball?
Speaker 8 (43:51):
I don't have.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
I don't from that game.
Speaker 9 (43:52):
I don't have the ball. And yeah, I got the
other two back. But yeah, Griffy, Griffy threw the ball
back in the stand.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
Why he was like with a swing like that, No
way was.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I knew you're doing some great things with Playing with Heart.
Can you explain that to the audience.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
What you're doing?
Speaker 9 (44:14):
Yeah, Playing with Heart is a campaign that you know,
I'm here to represent, you know, just to help adults
understand you know, bad cholesterol, the cholesterol number twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6 (44:25):
I had a stint put in my heart and you
know it changed my life.
Speaker 9 (44:28):
So you know, if I can be here to try
to help somebody and you know, understand and talk to
the physician to understand, you know, there might be you know,
underlying things that that going with you that you can't
see it, you can't feel, but if you go and
check it cholesterol, you may be able to get ahead
of them.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, it's called playing with heart and collaboration with nine teams,
the Yankees, Giants, Red Sox, Phillies, Braves, Cardinals, Astros, Padres
and the Angels. The focus is simple and that's urgent.
Know what your cholesterol number is. Great to see you again,
Thanks for joining us always, and we'll talk to you soon.
(45:06):
Sounds good, CC Sabanthia.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
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Speaker 2 (45:21):
He's the former US men's national team goalkeeper Brad Kazen
and joining us on behalf of one of our sponsor,
Dude wipes So Fox Sports World Cup Analyst and he
was the goaltender for a couple of US World Cup
teams and joins us on the program. All right, tell
me what I need to know about Team USA.
Speaker 12 (45:44):
They're exciting, man, It's gonna be hopefully a good summer.
They need to get off to a good start against Paraguay.
If they can pick up three points in the first game.
To be able to finish top of the group allows
them listen. At any point, they're going to have to
play a big powerhouse, if you will, but that's going
(46:05):
to allow them the path I think of least resistance,
and so Christian Ballistic is playing with confidence. Chris Richards
is back healthy. The goalkeeping situation is a hot topic.
I think Matt Freeze will end up playing Gold based
off the last friendly against Germany in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
So yeah, can is there any comparison between hockey goalie
soccer goalie as far as they stand on their head
and make all these saves.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
We hear that in hockey all the time.
Speaker 12 (46:37):
Yeah, I mean, we're gonna need We're gonna need whoever's
in goal. We're going to need our goalkeeper to make
saves in these tournaments. To do something special, You're you're
going to need to have your goalkeeper make one or
two big saves in a game, or you may need
them to stand on their head and make ten, twelve,
fifteen saves as Tim Ahart did in twenty fourteen in Brazil,
(46:58):
so you know, and even then we fell short against Belgium.
Speaker 8 (47:03):
So you're going to need your goalkeeper to come up big.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
We keep waiting for that next surge in soccer that
you know we thought, okay, twenty ten and twenty fourteen,
or when we host to the World Cup, And.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Why is it we're still waiting for this, Brad, Why.
Speaker 12 (47:21):
It's slowly growing. It's slowly growing. You know, when you
go back to the ninety four World Cup. The league,
Major League Soccer was then built in ninety six off
of the back of ninety four, and then when you
look forward to where we are now in terms of
the expansion of the league, the growth of the league,
the notoriety of players that are coming to Major League
(47:42):
Soccer to to you know, sharpen their craft as a
professional soccer player. That's exciting for the growth of the
sport here in the United States. And I think it's
only going to continue to grow. You know, these leagues,
whether you're talking about American you know, baseball, whether American football,
talking about football over in England or in Europe, they
(48:05):
weren't built in thirty years, you know, fifty seventy five,
one hundred years to develop this passion, in this ability
to pass down the love of a team from generation
to generation, and so we're working our way there, and
I think this summer is certainly going to help.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Them explain to the audience why Messi is.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
He's he is whoever, whatever comparison you want to make
to any other athlete you know in the United States,
Like what is it about him for a guy who's
not big, not necessarily fast?
Speaker 12 (48:42):
No, but it's not about that, right, And I think
when you look at the American athlete, we talk about
those attributes that you just mentioned, big, strong, fast, powerful,
But when you talk about Messi as a footballer, his
creative awareness, his spatial awareness, his ability on the ball
is so good to be able to bring other players
(49:04):
into the game, right, He's able to do things, see
passes that other players aren't able to see, and all
of a sudden, with with one pass of the ball,
it unlocks the defense. Or maybe he pops up in
a situation in and around the box and now he's
he's being able to find the back of the net
with a with an unbelievable shot, or or just the
understanding of what the goalkeeper is doing and knowing he
(49:27):
just got to casually passed the ball into the bottom corner.
The opposite of way the goalkeepers, you know, anticipating him.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
To go best player you ever faced, best goal scorer
you ever faced.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
Well, I think we just spoke about him. I think
he uh, he scored on me a few times.
Speaker 12 (49:46):
But at the same time, I must say we we
did get the better of inter Miami when I was
playing with Atlanta United in the playoff series. I think
we not only upset inter Miami and in the third team,
you know, we it just snuck into the playoffs, but
I think we certainly upset the league office and everybody
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that was potentially, you know, putting money on the game
thinking inter Miami was going to walk all over us.
Speaker 8 (50:13):
But we did get the better from him that series.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Brad Gazan he is working for Fox their World Cup
studio analyst, soccer commentator, and he was a part of
two US World Cup teams twenty ten twenty fourteen, joining
us on behalf of Dude Wipes. You spent your whole
career to get to this moment promoting Dude Wipes. Brad, Congratulations,
(50:35):
MESSI does it. Although you could bring in the word
MESSI and with Dude Wipes, I think we could have
a collaboration here.
Speaker 8 (50:43):
I like where your head's at. I like, clean up
your messy, clean up your mess exactly.
Speaker 12 (50:47):
It's twenty six nobody's using dry toilet paper anymore.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
Come on now, but you're handing out brown cards dude wipes.
Speaker 12 (50:56):
We are, Yeah, I mean listen to the initiative a
the World Cup. In the excitement as I just mentioned,
nobody's using dry toilet paper anymore. Going out to these
watch parties, these fan fest and seeing you know, people
come in and out a porter bodies. Come on now,
if you're not caring a dude boy body, you're getting
a brown card.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Dudewipes dot com slash brown Card, and you can get
a Brown card plus a free ten pack dude Wipes,
and you can give that out to anybody that you
think needs that help. All right, give us the best
case scenario, Team USA, Like what is reality here?
Speaker 6 (51:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (51:33):
I mean listen, first and foremost, we need to get
out of the group, and then obviously the tournament this
summer has expanded, and so we need to be able
to win some some knockout round games. And I think
if we can get to the round of sixteen, we're
gonna have to play a powerhouse a soccer powerhouse from
around the world somewhere, and in that moment, anything can happen.
(51:54):
And I've said, if we can create one of these
iconic moments such as the goal against Algeria in twenty ten,
or one of these moments where an entire country is
going to get behind the team, I think anything's possible.
And so I think if we can get to the
round of sixteen and have this excitement in the buzz
within the United States get behind the boys, I think
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they can make their way to a quarterfinal, and you know,
the sky's the limit at that point.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Great to talk to you, Brad, have fun, appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (52:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Brad Gazane the Fox Sports World Cup studio analyst. He'll
be working the World Cup there. He was part of
two US teams in the World Cup.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ernie Johnson, NBA on ESPN. Let me give you the
official introduction here. Tune into Inside the NBA with Ernie, Charles, Shaq,
Kenny and Draymond Green pre game and a halftime on ABC,
postgame on ESPN. Tip off for Game five Saturday between
the Nixon Spurs eight thirty Eastern on ABC. I'm a
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professional broadcaster, Ernie.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yes, you are in the every sense of the word.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Then thank you, Ernie.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
I do have to make one correction, however, Okay, Draymond
Green will not be joining us for Game five. He
was there for games three and four in New York,
but will not be on game five.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Has he been fired?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
It was very contentious. No, I think the plan was
just all along.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Hey, Graymond's going to be in New York with the
game three and four, so and we always agree time
with him too.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
But that's game.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
The Game five lineup will be everything that you mentioned,
minus dream on Green.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
How much of what is said off the air can
you use on the air, because a lot of times
some of the best stuff comes up when you're not
on camera where you're just sitting around talking.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I think there's some that that is shared, and I
don't the way it works is a lot of time, hey,
like we were talking in the green room about blah
blah blah, yeah and then and so I don't know
if anybody was really intending for that to be used.
But I think apparently anytime you step into the studio
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or into the arena, if you say it, even in confidence,
but there's a good chance it will it will show
up on the air.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I remember Football Night in America, Tony Dungee would say
a lot of things off the air that were really interesting,
and I was like, Tony, when you put on a
microphone when you're in in my vicinity, I feel like
it's fair game when you're saying things unless you tell
me otherwise. But Tony is not Shaq and Charles with
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their comments though.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
No, it's once you've put a tie on, it's all
out there. So if you show up, if you have
a jacket on, what you say might be used. But
and those guys aren't shy about that, and a lot
of times that does give you an insight into you know,
because like Chuck was yelling every time San Antonio missed
(02:38):
a three the other night in the green room. There
that's eight of them, and so that's going to be
used even though it's not technically on the air.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Then the Taylor Swift photos they like to say, went viral.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Ernie, how did that happen?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
That is what the kids say, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (02:55):
They do?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And maybe the grandkids say that as well.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
See here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
And see I still had this feeling that if there's
an opportunity like that. And I'd never met tavior Swick,
but I knew she was going to be at the game,
and I said, man, I need to get a picture
with her because the grandkids will love it. I've got
five grandkids and my kids, like my daughter's like like
like Carmen and Maggie and my daughter in law Quinn
(03:22):
have all gone to see her, so they're all swifties.
So for me to go up to her and say, hey,
Ernie Johnson in Sunday and it's like but there was
like a light of recognition in her eye like yeah,
like Travis watches this all the time, and Travis has
been on the pod. So I said, hey, look, you
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just got to make me the coolest grandpa of all time.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Would you take a picture with me?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
And she was great, you know, and then I got
the picture and then I just waited for the thread
on my texts with the kids to just take on
a life of their own. So it was really that
It's a cool moment. I was glad I could do
that for them.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And then the Wu Tang plan You've got a picture
with them as well well.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
And see last year they asked me to do the
voice over announcing their their tour, which surprised me, Dan
as it probably surprised you as well, but and I said, sure,
I'd be honored.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
To do that. So I did.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
And then here I say, oh, they're going to be
on at half and I go out there and we're
all just and it's like like I.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Was part of the clan.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You know all the lyrics, don't.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You, Della della bill y'all?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He is Ernie Johnson, He'll be with Charles and Shaq
and Kenny No, Draymond Green coming up on Saturday. It
feels like every other week, maybe every month. I say,
I'd never seen that before, or when you think you've
seen everything, and we had that on Wednesday night. How
do you how do you compartmentalize that to go what
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just happened?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I mean, I didn't really know what had just happened.
That's why I kind of asked the guys, what did
we just see here? But it was surreal. And you know,
to see a professional crowd like that where nobody wants
to move, they just want to sit there and celebrate
and just dance. And I that's like the aftermath. But
to watch the whole thing unravel in front of your
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eyes is kind of amazing to see New York come
back like that. But okay, so we saw him do
that against Cleveland in Game one. Twenty two down, was
seven and a half minutes left, and I was thinking,
as we were watching this fourth quarter, so this is
a lot more manageable than that Cleveland game was at
this point, even though the number was huge, the twenty nine.
(05:53):
Every time they started reown a mini got it under twenty,
it's under fifteen, Oh it's ten, And this is a
game and there's plenty of time left. So it was
an amazing thing to watch. And I and and Dan.
You know this when you if you're doing a show
from a set like there's one at Madison Square Garden,
where we do halftime that's five miles high. But when
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you're sitting on stools at center court of the garden
when this has just happened, I mean, it's just you're
just trying to keep your look around, make sure you
see everything that's going on, and enjoy all of that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It was. It was surreal.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And I was thinking, so I as I add to
the to the World's Longest Answer, I was thinking of
moments that I had had that were similar for me
in just these thirty seven years I've been around Turner and.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And I'm thinking I was at the British Open.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
I was calling Jack's spinal round at the British Open
as he's not going to make the cut, and you
watch from your tower as the streets suddenly and gradually
become full filled with all these golf fanatics. So when
Jack comes to the eighteenth at the Old Course, I mean,
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the scene was unbelievable. That was That was one of
those like, well, I haven't seen that before. I saw
Dan Jansen went an Olympic gold medal in Norway in
front of all these flag waving Norwegians, and you know,
his story had been so dramatic and there wasn't a
dry eye in the arena when it happened, and Raoul
(07:37):
Labanyas hit the two home runs against the Orioles, and
I was fortunate enough to be calling that.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
In fact, when you have CC on.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
That might be something you would ask me because he
was he was on that Yankee team and that mayhem
that was at Yankee Stadium that night. So there are
these certain things that just stand out that are men
their goosebump moments, and you just never forget them.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Anything come close to your father's call of Hank Aaron
seven hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, no, that was.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
That was on just a personal note, and that's a
that's a very good one to bring up, because yeah,
that was. That was special. But my dad didn't call
seven fifteen. He called he called seven fourteen on the
radio because it was a radio TV thing. But seven
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fifteen was called by Milo Hamilton, my dad's colleague back then.
Oh okay, well my dad did call five six and
seven hundred, which was awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Those are really Were you at the game with seven fifteen?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yes, yes, I was. That was. Yeah, that was an
awesome you never that was.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
That was tremendous. That was just one of those those
you know, you knew it was going to happen eventually, Dann.
But when you see that moment and you see like
Bill Buckner scaling the wall trying to you know, you
never you never forget all the details. And Craig Seger
with that trench coat at home Plate, you know, with
(09:14):
the same haircut he's had in his entire year, and
that Network wish coat that he's got on, and he's
he's sticking the.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Mic in there. I think it was. It looks like
a radio Shack thing he got in.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Hey, Henry, I feel bad that these guys are so big,
you know, literally so big with Shack and Charles on
the set that it looks like your feet are kind
of dangling. They don't get to touch the floor while
Shack and Charles are kind of enveloping their seats there.
So your stage manager maybe needs to help you a
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little bit there.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Well, they're actually resting on a part of the chair,
they're not actually dangling. But I do feel somewhat like
somewhat like I'm I can't wait till they invite me to.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Be growing up table. Those guys look like they're having
a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Maybe I'll get the suit over there, but they're dude,
that's those are one of the that's one of the
times like when anytime you're sitting next to Shack, you know, Dan,
I'm six too, Okay, I'm not a I'm not just
but next to him, I look like like a child
and so and that, and so they put me at
the In fact, let's lower Ernie's chair a little bit
(10:30):
to make it a little more profound.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You're you're sneaky tall at six.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Too, sneaky tall, sneaky.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'm you know, the physicality, I know that we look
at it sometimes, whether you're old school and you go,
this is nothing I remember back in our day. But
the new NBA maybe, like is is this physical for
the new NBA as opposed to what we saw in
the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I'm I'm not out there with these guys, I don't know,
you know, but when you when you watch it, it's like, yeah,
that I mean that. I guess that's physical to an extent,
But it's not like, you know, the stuff we saw now.
I mean, and again, the stuff we used to see,
if we saw it now, guys would be suspended for
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four years. You know, I'm sorry, Uh, you're not playing
in that game and you must leave the state.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
It's like that's it's amazing. So uh no, I think
there does get there. There is a physical nature to it,
but you don't see you know, the stuff we used
to see was just blatant.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Hey, no, no, I'm not not only am I going
to contest this.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I'm going to knock you into the third row and
then you're gonna dust yourself off and we're gonna keep playing. No,
it's it's the physical I get it's all in.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
This game was more physical than that game where these
guys came out with more aggression than that game.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But yeah, I don't I don't get tied up in
all of that.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You vote won a lot of Sports Emmys. Do you
have one nearby in your office?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I do, but it's yeah my office at home. I do,
But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I would just curious, you know, like when I have
cost us on, he has a room, he has an
Emmy room. Yeah, go get it.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, here we go. Ernie Johnson inside.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
The NBA, Charles Shaq, Kenny Smith, No, Draymond Green.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Coming up on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
He's probably deciding which sports Emmy then he would like
to show.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Oh, there you go, that looks like a fresh one, Ernie.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Uh, let's see.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
I don't know that's a twenty fifteen. I don't know, yes,
But your question.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Was, I'm just curious where they were that they if
they were close by, like you know, Costas when I
interview him, it's right there. He's basically saying, look at me,
You're a loser.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So I've got them up here.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
I've got this big bookcase thing the TV there where
I watch the games, and so they are sprinkled around
the bookshelves there, but always.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
One with an easy reaching distance for moments like this.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Costa's hands them out for Halloween. I mean, that's their doorstops.
Have fun in San Antonio. It is not only you can.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
I hate packing, Dan, by the way, I hate packing.
I just finished doing that this morning.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Don't you have somebody who brings a suit to San
Antonio for you?
Speaker 8 (13:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
No, I bring all my stuff and then i'm and
I bring my office basically in a carry on with
a printer and all that stuff. And so I hate packing,
but I the journey the destination is great. The journey
can be a little taxic. You can write that down
because it's pretty profound.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And then hold on, maybe I can win a Sports Timmy.
The destination I don't know. I don't remember what about
the journey.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
The journey is. If the journey leads to the destiny.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
You like the destination, you don't like the journey.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
And when the journey involves packing for three cities, yes,
or three trips?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Are you packing to go to New York as well?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Yes, I'm packing for seven games, okay, knowing all along
that it might be just one more game and it
might be all this packing for nothing, or that I
actually needed it.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Whatever, I always found.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I got to make room for this.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh you.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Always it's always an issue, very tough getting through TSA.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well, good luck in packing. Thanks and uh thanks for
joining us as Almo.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I love talking to you, Dan, I always do. It's
always a pleasure or man, great, great to reconnect with you.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Well, what sneakers do you have on right now?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I do not have sneakers on right now. I've got
flip flops. I got combat flip flops on.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, well you got you got sneakers picked out for
game five.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, for five, six and seven.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Ye.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
And that's part of the problem with packing now because
I have to try to make the appropriate shoe choice.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
It's I feel great.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Shame when I can really get down to thinking about
how much time it takes.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Me to pack.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You're kind of whining here? Am I in little? It
feels like that.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I know, I just know the packing thing is just
And anytime I feel like I'm getting whiny, then I
just kind of look at this.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
This sport's emmy. Yeah, there's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Thanks from thanks for allowing me to just these.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Thank you, Ernie, have a great week.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Thank you man.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
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Speaker 2 (16:47):
He is Arkansas head coach. He won a national championship
back in twenty twelve, three times Naysmith College Coach of
the Year. We look at all the awards that he's
got and he was in the garden for Game four
wearing a suit as if you were coaching the game.
How did you end up at the garden on Wednesday?
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Come on, now, you know Carl Towns is in that game,
the Aaron Fox is in that game. Calvin Johnson's in
that game. I can call Leon and West and say, hey, boys,
I need a ticket. And you know they were a
little steep, they were expensive.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Wait you had to buy them?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Be okay, Well, I'm going to feel bad that you
had to spend money to see your former players, but
you didn't show up like you were ready to coach
in a game. When's the last time you thought about
coaching in the NBA or you were broached about coaching
in the NBA?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
No, I my path. I ran this path and and
when everybody asked me about decisions in the NBA, this,
this game and that game, and I want to talk
about some of this stuff today because driving me crazy.
But I have to remind everybody I coached the Nets
and they fired me. So why are you asking me
what I would do in an NBA game? But you know, no,
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that game. I gotta tell you that game what's driving
me crazy. I heard the guy get on before I
jumped on here and say, you know this is the
worst that he must add money on the game, because
if you're watching that just as a fan, that's pure enjoyment. Now, well,
I was so excited about We're in New York. The
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fans did not boo the Knicks at all one time
during that game. Now, they booed the officials, and they
got on pretty hard, but they didn't. All they were
there was to give them a chance and to pick
them up and even down when we all went down
in the dugout after at halftime, all the fans down there,
(18:57):
all those stars that I was like taking a back from,
they were all still into the game. It was a
great sight to see. And I'm just telling everybody, instead
of picking.
Speaker 11 (19:08):
It apart each player, how about we just enjoy what's
happening because this may be one of the better finals
ever and we're able to sit there and join it,
some of us lucky enough to be in the building.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Now, how many people will say they were at game
four twenty years from now, ten million? I was at
the game. I was at the game. Well, you weren't
at the game. There was only twenty thousand there.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
But coach, you can say I was at the garden.
That doesn't mean you were in the garden. So you're
going to have people who were probably semantics. I was
at the garden that night, and nobody can refute that
that's true.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
That figures you'd come up with something. Of course, yeah,
because you'll be one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
But go ahead, okay, are you new to social media
that we don't pick apart play and the team and
the moments?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
What are you talking about here?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
All right?
Speaker 7 (20:05):
So here's my point. And as I go through this,
I say this, but this is the life we chose,
and you're gonna get the other side of it. But
let me say this, Daron Fox, stop on the Aaron Fox.
He's playing with the high ankles. Fray probably shouldn't be
playing he would normally dunk that layup, dump that layup.
(20:25):
If he would have dunked it, he's the hero, the
greatest thing that and now he's the biggest goat and
he made Well what about other guys in the game.
What would have happened to Josh if he missed that
dunkin they had lost? I mean, so you can't how
about it. They want to get on Mitch, who I
think is doing a great job with a young team. Okay,
(20:50):
Ronnie Harper's son is the real deal. I did not
realize how good he was until I sat there and
watched him.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Did you recruit him?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
I could. He was going to Rutgers the whole.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Time I tried.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
You couldn't afford him.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
No, they were paying big at that time. No, not really,
he was going there from day one. I don't know
why he was from near there or something, but anyway,
So now Mitch runs an out of bounds play the
last play with one point two whatever, the guy is
wide open, they're going to win the game, and Carl
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Town gets his little pinky and deflects it where the
kid has to reach down to go get the ball,
and they win the game. You could do everything right
and lose, and you're right, it's the life you chose,
you're gonna get crap. But the three the Jalen made.
How about the step back that Carl made into their
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bench for a three? I'm like, what am I watching?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, but we were seeing mistakes, coach, And if you
were coaching, you would told you would have told Darren
Fox that the points aren't important. It's getting you know,
time off the clock that's the most important.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
But two points doesn't we have a game?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Depends on how you coach. Sometimes I'm saying there's three
minutes in a game that we're up whatever, I'll say,
we're four baskets away. They can't catch us. That's another
way of coaching that we're four we get four more buckets,
they can't catch us. There's not enough time. And so
(22:32):
sometimes when you play defense in football what do they
call it, You're like, okay, let's really prevent defense, so
it prevents you from winning. How about if he dribbled
it out and got fouled. How about Wendy missed two
freak throws?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I agree, I agree these are.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
So you're yeah, but that's not the Let me tell
you this. In the first half. They were so good.
They were going to have eighty eighty points at halftime.
And I'm sitting there's nothing you can do. What are
you're gonna get on? Mike? You know the greatest thing
Mike did. Mike Brown left Alvarado in. He left him
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in when Alverado made that shot. I'm like, my thought is,
probably need to take him out. Now, he helped you.
Now let's go. Mike left him in. He makes another shot,
he makes a basket, he plows him down. I'm like saying,
so some of this is your gut, some of it
is a bounce of the ball. But here's again, Dan,
are you in Maine right now?
Speaker 9 (23:33):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
No, no, no, I'm at the home Bandkip.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
Okay, so how about just toes up watch the game.
But problem is there's betting, and that drives everything to
another level. That guy probably lost a grand and he
wants to kill somebody. WI should have won. I could
have won five grand and I lost it. You know
(23:57):
I take that out. I'm not even you know, I'm
not worried. I'm watching the game thinking I just watched
one of the great games of all time. I sat
next to Adam Sandler, and his wife Jackie, who were
great Chris Rock. I went up. I'm standing there and
John McEnroe was walking by me and he looks at
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me and I shake his hand. I said, I'm John
Caliperry says, I know you are, coach. I don't know
who knows me, who doesn't know me, but all the stuff.
But the fans.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Never boomed, never left either.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
It's a come on now you've been to New York stuff.
I don't care if it's the Yankees, the Giants, the Jets,
the Mets, you'll get booed like in a second. These
people are so you know what it is. It's they're
all in this together. You could feel it and building.
He was crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
He's the Hall of Fame coach John Cali Perry joining
us on the program. Did you recruit Jalen Brunson? Great story.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
He played in West Virginia in a tournament, and I'm
watching him, saying, this kid's really good, already going to Villanova.
What he committed to Villanova? What I get Jay right?
I'm watching the kid with Jay right on the phone.
I said, Jay, I see this kid down here. It's
down to you and us now because I'm recuting out
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of this kit and Jay and I bust out laughing.
I even called him the other day and I said, Jay,
you got three guys that won you two national titles.
Are ready to win a world championship? Like and again
we talked about kat when we talked about dn Fox,
what about Keldon Johnson. Kelton Johnson is sixth Man of
the Year, allowed step back from being a starter so
(25:45):
he could be one of these guys. I mean, and
for him, Jay and me to sit there and watch
all this stuff, nothing makes you prouder. And when you're
watching and he's going to defend his guy. Look, Jalen
threw a ball a way that almost cost him a game.
He got a little trapped, he looked away and threw it.
(26:07):
Josh gave up an offensive rebound that was going to
be the game. He missed a breakaway dunk. But you
know what, Jay would defend his guys, and I'm gonna
defend mine. I mean, I think they all three played well.
One's playing with a bad ankle. But I'll come back
to it is the life we chose.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yes, how aware are you of the point spread for
your games at Arkansas?
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Never don't want to know, but.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
It's always there. It's omnipresent. Coach.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
So I had a guy when I was at Kentucky.
I had a guy that would be with us, and
he knew that I knew, he knew the point spread.
And if we were going to a game and he
would say it's eighteen, I was so happy. I'd sit
back because those some of the guys aren't wrong. They're like, oh,
I know, they're not wrong. But if we're going to
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a game and I'm thinking, yeah, we're double digit here,
And if I asked him and he said, yeah, it's
a four point four points, what how's it? Only? Oh shit,
they know something we don't know. So that's why I
don't want to know either way. Yeah I don't. I'm not.
I'm not looking at it thinking about it.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I just I look at the authority of the NC
double idom Do they have authority when.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
It comes not?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Now?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No?
Speaker 7 (27:31):
No? And I hey, look that the that the stuff
this has gotten away from us. Do I think putting
the government involved in our business is going to work? Probably?
Not who wants the government involved. But we're at a point,
at least short term a two year anti just two
(27:53):
years for us to get stuff away from the courts.
How do we make whatever these lawsuits are go to
federal court not state because state has We're gonna let
him play.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, I don't care what he did.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Well, he grows out, couldn't do this. This guy's out
in it. Yeah, we're gonna have this guy one game penalty.
What but it's in state court, it's not federal and
so that kind of stuff. But yeah, we need help
right now. Would I hope that we wouldn't need government, Yeah,
but I'm in this. We cannot leave college sports the
(28:32):
way it is. Another year cannot. So whatever we do,
we got to do something. Whether it's the bill that's
out there right now, whether it's a scaled back for
a two year reprieve, I don't know, but we need
to do something.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
All right.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I need an answer on this last question. Okay, what
year did you miss those layups in our gym?
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Did you play for Donald Hurt? Did you play for
him at Dayton?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Coach was there when I was there? He was in
a no.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
No, he was head coach. I was going to say, no,
I didn't miss any layups at U Mass.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yes you did.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
No, No, they said he does the radio. This is
an n A And I said, hey, you are crazy.
How can he talk basketball? He can't make layups? How
does that work?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
This is an NCAA violation because you're lying right now.
If I put you under oath, would you have said
what you just said?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Coach?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Okay, Okay, I want an answer. Okay, promise me you
will give me an answer on this. A name, Okay,
promise yeah, Okay. Give me the most important player for
whether it was at Kentucky. Well, let's say Kentucky. Who
was the most important player you had at Kentucky? Not
(29:51):
best most important player? Well, let me say this, and
you can even do Memphis if you want to.
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Okay, Darius a Cup should be a top four, maybe
even better, maybe one or two in this draft. Malik
Thomas should be in this first round. And because of
what the Knicks did where they're playing veteran guys that
went to college for four years. You got og he went,
(30:20):
he went for a couple of years. Carl's the only
one that went one year, but he's been in the
league seven years. Though. That's giving Trevn Brazil a second look, like, hey,
we need to take a guy that's been in college
four years and do what the Knicks did. And then
my guy Darius and Malik as young kids. Someone's getting
(30:40):
a good player. Does that answer your question?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
No, because I think Marcus Camby is probably the most
important player a T career.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
How does the guy lead like him lead?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
You messed?
Speaker 7 (30:55):
We were top twenty, but when he came, we became
number one in the country. He is a top fifty
player in high school or college in the history of
our game. He's the top fifty. They can name all
these guys what he did at UMass. He's the top
fifty player and the greatest guy. To this day, he
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and I still stay in touch, and I thank him
for what he did for my career because by us
getting him helped my career screw up even more.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And back then you couldn't pay people above board, so
you had to pay him under the table.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
You know how I recruited him. When I went in
he said, I said, what do you want to be?
He said, I want to be a shooting guard.
Speaker 11 (31:39):
He's six eleven, you want to be a shooting guard.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
But we really needed this guy, and so I said, well, listen,
I'm not going to lie to you. If you want
to be a shooting guard, I'm going to let you
be a shooting now. I then followed up with but
we do post our shooting guards a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Great to talk to you. Enjoy the rest of the
basketball and thanks again.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Hey, let's just share these guys on and.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Of course, of course, yeah, mister positive, no yet, John Caliperi,
mister positive, thank you coach.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
All right, thanks, that's John Caliperi.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
All shame.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
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Speaker 2 (32:35):
CC Sabathia Hall of Famer World Series champin oh nine
had a chance to spend some time with him a
couple of days ago. He's got a podcast. It's on
Peacock MLB, according to CC, Wednesday at five Eastern on Peacock,
NBC Sports Now also available as a podcast. He was
there on Wednesday night, and I started my conversation by asking,
(33:01):
are you a diehard Knicks fan?
Speaker 6 (33:03):
No, I'm just I'm reagional with basketball.
Speaker 9 (33:05):
I'm a die hard raider, So I take so much
abuse in the fall that by the winter time. Whoever's
winning in basketball, I just rolled with that squad. So
I got lucky this year with the Knicks, so I
got to go to the Garden.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Okay, But when you were playing in New York with
the Yankees, how often would you go to a Knicks game?
Speaker 6 (33:23):
I went all the time.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
I went all the time because I gave up my
Warrior season tickets right then, because when I was in
when I was still in Cleveland, I had Warrior season tickets,
so I would go to the games in the offseason.
Then I had to give those up when we moved
here full time, so I started going to the Garden.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Who would you sit next to like celebrities?
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
Sat next to Tracy Morgan, I sat next to Spike before,
Chris Rod, Jon Stewart, the whole, the whole, the whole game.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
What about Yankee teammates that came to the games.
Speaker 9 (33:59):
Judge came of the games with me a couple of times.
I had a teammate Bearan Francisco came with me a
couple of times. And then like we would, we would
get sweets if if all of us were going, we
would get like a big suite to go to the game,
but we've always supported the next.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
But when you played with the Yankees, how often or
how where were you of celebrities there?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (34:21):
You you know, you know who's there, like, uh, when
Laura Michael was sitting back there or whoever else is
sitting back there, like you know who's who's in the house,
and like people pay attention to that for sure.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
But especially in New York, but they come down on
the field pregame.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
It depending on who it was.
Speaker 9 (34:38):
But but even if they were just sitting like right
there in legends back there, Yeah, I mean you could
you could see who was who was there, so we
were always paying attention to that.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Did you acknowledge them?
Speaker 9 (34:48):
Yeah, if you if you were if you were good enough,
you could acknowledge it.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
When you're winning, it helps everything.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I was curious about this when Princey said, hey, you
want to get CC on and that is would you
rather throw ninety five but you had movement or let's
say you're throwing one O three like Jacob Mizerowski and
maybe it's just one O three, but straight I would.
Speaker 9 (35:20):
Take the ninety five with movement, just because I feel
like I can I can pitch with that and be
able to kind of move it around the plate. I
mean even if I mean if it depends on the
one off four, right with the one on three like Miserowski.
I think it's his trouble before this year was they
didn't throw enough strikes. I think in the last six
weeks just throwing the ball over the plate.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
He throws so.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Hard that even if you're on time, you've fouled off,
folling off a couple times they didn't get to his
breaking ball.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
So I think it's just about being able.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Whatever.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Whatever you can throw for a strike is what you
should throw.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
So miss could throw one hundred and three, but you
can't throw that for a strike, And maybe you should
throw ninety eight so that you can throw a strike,
kind of moved the ball around the plate and be
able to pitch a little bit. So I think the
biggest thing that you're seeing in his and the difference
in what he's doing now is that he's actually just
throwing the ball over the plate. Heah four walks in
all of mey, you know what I'm saying. So that right,
I mean him just like literally attacking offenses.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
I mean, with him being able to throw that hardest.
I mean, there's really nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Mark Grace once told me, he said, we'll catch up
to a fastball like you can throw it, like we'll
hit a fastball. It's the other stuff that we have
trouble with.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Yeah, for sure. I mean even if you look at
like Mo.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
Mo threw one pitch his whole career and everybody kind
of knew which way it was going or felt like
they had a beat on it. And he's the greatest
pitcher of all time, you know what I mean. So
if you can make the ball move and get it
off the barrel a little bit, it's so hard to
hit even if you know what's coming. Because people felt
like they knew what Marionnod's gonna throw and still couldn't.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Get to him.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Was that teachable that pitch?
Speaker 9 (37:01):
It's teachable, Yes, it's teachable. You can throw a cutter,
but you can't throw it like him, you know what
I'm saying. Like he taught me how to throw that.
That's the cutter out threw at the end of my career,
same one Billy Connor's taught him, taught Andy Pettitt. All
every Yankee learned that cutter from Billy, But most is
just different, Like you play catch with them, it moves late.
(37:24):
Who's different. I've seen them hit people in the chest
with it. I've seen them hit people in the face
with it, and he's telling them it's coming. So yes,
I mean, you can learn the grip and you can
learn the philosophy of like where to throw it, but
nothing's going to.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Be like his Okay, but is that the most unhittable
pitch in the history of baseball?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
I mean, and I think it's because everybody knew it
was coming, like for twenty years.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
You know what he's throwing.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
I mean he started throwing the two seamer at the end,
maybe like the last three years, but for seventeen years straight.
I mean, in the playoffs, everything, He's pitching in the
big moments, and people feel like they know what's coming,
and it still can't get him on the bear.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Okay, what other pitch would be like Phil Nekro's knuckleball was.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Like Johan Santana's change up.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Oh my goodness, his change.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Up was was I mean, it was off the charge.
He would throw that thing right down the middle.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, if you guessed right.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Yeah, it's so good that he's just throwing it right
down the middle.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That's Harold. Harold Reynolds showed me a video. He said,
I'm gonna show you side by side of Johann Santana's
release point fastball change up.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
It was exactly the same. Yeah, he said.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Now, imagine being at the plate and you got to
decide is he throwing a fastball or a change up?
I mean he said that it was impossible to tell.
Speaker 9 (38:49):
Yeah, you literally have to guess. You got to pick one.
And and like you said, it looked exactly the same.
And the arm speed that he that he threw it with,
I think it helped all. I mean, I know it
helped me just watching him be able to throw it
as hard as he could. It helped me be able
to like trust that I can throw this thing as
hard as I can and it's gonna the grip is
gonna take the speed off and the scenes are gonna
(39:09):
make the ball move. So having a chance to like
watch him up close for so long in that division
definitely helped me.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Watch higeout CC Sabbathia Hall of Famer World Series CHAMPONOH
nine with the Yankees. Tommy john surgery feels almost write
a passage. It's inevitable for these pictures.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Now, yeah, it seems that way.
Speaker 9 (39:30):
I mean even younger, right, guys would coming to baseball
with Tommy Johns at.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
This point, And I tell the story that I have
a physical therapist. He said he had two different parents
who came to him and said, can you help us
get Tommy john surgery? And their sons were one was fourteen,
one was fifteen. They were getting it before they needed
Tommy John's surgery.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Yeah, I mean that's what they try to do to
get the rehab to be able to to throw harder.
Like people just assume. Well, I mean even now too,
like kids are pos, which are pitchers only, which I
don't understand. Like the funniest part about playing.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
Baseball is being able to play the field. Like who
just wants to pitch your whole life? You know what
I'm saying. So it's even it's even weird to see that.
Speaker 9 (40:18):
But yeah, I mean the guys that are pos that
feel like they want to pitch, you know, in college
or you know, maybe in the pros, they feel like,
you know, there's only so many throws in your arm,
and at some point you're gonna have to have Tommy John.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
I never had Tommy John. I was always on.
Speaker 9 (40:34):
Pitch counts even as a young as a young kid,
my dad had me on pitch counts, made sure only
three once a week, all these different things.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
So my arm is pretty healthy up until you know,
my last year.
Speaker 9 (40:43):
But I just think people try to get ahead of
it now, where you know, they feel like if a
guy's gonna throw this much or a kid's gonna throw
this much, let's go ahead and get the surgery out
of the way, and you know, try to try to
see if he can get to the big leagues. But yeah,
that's what I'm saying, Like, guy now are coming to
pro ball with one tiny John already and then maybe
(41:04):
having two while they're playing.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Otani's had the surgery and he's had a procedure, But
I wonder how many imitators is he going to create
in five years, ten years that we do let somebody
hit and pitch if they're like Schemes was a great
hitter in an Air Force academy. I mean, he was
a power hitter. I'm surprised that the Pirates wouldn't say, hey,
(41:28):
why don't we do get this novelty with schemes and
get him out there more often?
Speaker 9 (41:34):
Absolutely, Oregon, Jack Hagliol right like, he went to Florida,
He's a first rounder for Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
He can do both, I mean, but even like, there's
always guys that could do both. I felt.
Speaker 9 (41:44):
I heard Dave Winfield was a great pitcher in college
and you know, was able to kind of do both.
I would have thought by now it would be way
more guys, you know what, at least the opportunity to
hit and pitch.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
But even just.
Speaker 9 (41:57):
Seeing how good Kaglion was in college doing them both
and then them just kind of turning them into a hitter,
seems like, you know, it is just you know, just
one off with show Hayes, you know, the greatest baseball
player of all time, and he's the only one that
gets to you know, can do it on this level.
So I mean, hopefully there are more guys that can
(42:17):
do this. I don't think anybody's gonna be able to
do it on the level that he's doing it, but
there's definitely guys that can you know, do both.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Wait, you think he's going to be the greatest player
of all time.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
I think he already is.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
The greatest of all time.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
Who's better?
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Well, I mean, babe, did I mean he won ninety
two games as his starter and then you hit seven
hundred and fourteen home runs and.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
Yeah, that was a different time though.
Speaker 9 (42:41):
Now he's playing in the era where this is the biggest, fastest,
strongest era that we've ever seen. And he's the fastest,
he's the biggest, He's the best. I mean, you know,
you combine him. He's one of the best hitters in
the league, and he's one of the best pitchers in
the league. And to be able to do it in
this era, I think, you know, my goat to me
is Barry Bonds, like I'll never you know, he's always
(43:03):
number one, But Barry can't go on throw seven shut out.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Any PAULI did you have CEC's hitting stints?
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yeah, for his career, Cec hit two oh seven, three
home runs, fifteen rbidm no steals.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
You know, I how to higher band average until like
those last three years, and I was like, I was
just trying to like hold on to like that two
fifty seven sounds so bad. I was hit like two
fifty to those last three years.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Okay, who did you homer off of? Since it's only three,
you got to remember, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (43:33):
Hit a homer off Homer Bailey, chan Ho Park and
uh Elizardo Ramirez.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
Those are the three guys.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
Did you get those home run balls back?
Speaker 9 (43:45):
Well, Griffy, the first one I hit, he threw it
back in the stand. So only have the bat from
that ball?
Speaker 8 (43:51):
I don't have.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
I don't from that game.
Speaker 9 (43:52):
I don't have the ball. And yeah, I got the
other two back. But yeah, Griffy, Griffy threw the ball
back in the stand.
Speaker 6 (44:00):
Why he was like with a swing like that, No
way was.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I knew you're doing some great things with Playing with Heart.
Can you explain that to the audience.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
What you're doing?
Speaker 9 (44:14):
Yeah, Playing with Heart is a campaign that you know,
I'm here to represent, you know, just to help adults
understand you know, bad cholesterol, the cholesterol number twenty eighteen.
Speaker 6 (44:25):
I had a stint put in my heart and you
know it changed my life.
Speaker 9 (44:28):
So you know, if I can be here to try
to help somebody and you know, understand and talk to
the physician to understand, you know, there might be you know,
underlying things that that going with you that you can't
see it, you can't feel, but if you go and
check it cholesterol, you may be able to get ahead
of them.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, it's called playing with heart and collaboration with nine teams,
the Yankees, Giants, Red Sox, Phillies, Braves, Cardinals, Astros, Padres
and the Angels. The focus is simple and that's urgent.
Know what your cholesterol number is. Great to see you again,
Thanks for joining us always, and we'll talk to you soon.
(45:06):
Sounds good, CC Sabanthia.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
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Speaker 2 (45:21):
He's the former US men's national team goalkeeper Brad Kazen
and joining us on behalf of one of our sponsor,
Dude wipes So Fox Sports World Cup Analyst and he
was the goaltender for a couple of US World Cup
teams and joins us on the program. All right, tell
me what I need to know about Team USA.
Speaker 12 (45:44):
They're exciting, man, It's gonna be hopefully a good summer.
They need to get off to a good start against Paraguay.
If they can pick up three points in the first game.
To be able to finish top of the group allows
them listen. At any point, they're going to have to
play a big powerhouse, if you will, but that's going
(46:05):
to allow them the path I think of least resistance,
and so Christian Ballistic is playing with confidence. Chris Richards
is back healthy. The goalkeeping situation is a hot topic.
I think Matt Freeze will end up playing Gold based
off the last friendly against Germany in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
So yeah, can is there any comparison between hockey goalie
soccer goalie as far as they stand on their head
and make all these saves.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
We hear that in hockey all the time.
Speaker 12 (46:37):
Yeah, I mean, we're gonna need We're gonna need whoever's
in goal. We're going to need our goalkeeper to make
saves in these tournaments. To do something special, You're you're
going to need to have your goalkeeper make one or
two big saves in a game, or you may need
them to stand on their head and make ten, twelve,
fifteen saves as Tim Ahart did in twenty fourteen in Brazil,
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so you know, and even then we fell short against Belgium.
Speaker 8 (47:03):
So you're going to need your goalkeeper to come up big.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
We keep waiting for that next surge in soccer that
you know we thought, okay, twenty ten and twenty fourteen,
or when we host to the World Cup, And.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Why is it we're still waiting for this, Brad, Why.
Speaker 12 (47:21):
It's slowly growing. It's slowly growing. You know, when you
go back to the ninety four World Cup. The league,
Major League Soccer was then built in ninety six off
of the back of ninety four, and then when you
look forward to where we are now in terms of
the expansion of the league, the growth of the league,
the notoriety of players that are coming to Major League
(47:42):
Soccer to to you know, sharpen their craft as a
professional soccer player. That's exciting for the growth of the
sport here in the United States. And I think it's
only going to continue to grow. You know, these leagues,
whether you're talking about American you know, baseball, whether American football,
talking about football over in England or in Europe, they
(48:05):
weren't built in thirty years, you know, fifty seventy five,
one hundred years to develop this passion, in this ability
to pass down the love of a team from generation
to generation, and so we're working our way there, and
I think this summer is certainly going to help.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Them explain to the audience why Messi is.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
He's he is whoever, whatever comparison you want to make
to any other athlete you know in the United States,
Like what is it about him for a guy who's
not big, not necessarily fast?
Speaker 12 (48:42):
No, but it's not about that, right, And I think
when you look at the American athlete, we talk about
those attributes that you just mentioned, big, strong, fast, powerful,
But when you talk about Messi as a footballer, his
creative awareness, his spatial awareness, his ability on the ball
is so good to be able to bring other players
(49:04):
into the game, right, He's able to do things, see
passes that other players aren't able to see, and all
of a sudden, with with one pass of the ball,
it unlocks the defense. Or maybe he pops up in
a situation in and around the box and now he's
he's being able to find the back of the net
with a with an unbelievable shot, or or just the
understanding of what the goalkeeper is doing and knowing he
(49:27):
just got to casually passed the ball into the bottom corner.
The opposite of way the goalkeepers, you know, anticipating him.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
To go best player you ever faced, best goal scorer
you ever faced.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
Well, I think we just spoke about him. I think
he uh, he scored on me a few times.
Speaker 12 (49:46):
But at the same time, I must say we we
did get the better of inter Miami when I was
playing with Atlanta United in the playoff series. I think
we not only upset inter Miami and in the third team,
you know, we it just snuck into the playoffs, but
I think we certainly upset the league office and everybody
(50:06):
that was potentially, you know, putting money on the game
thinking inter Miami was going to walk all over us.
Speaker 8 (50:13):
But we did get the better from him that series.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
Brad Gazan he is working for Fox their World Cup
studio analyst, soccer commentator, and he was a part of
two US World Cup teams twenty ten twenty fourteen, joining
us on behalf of Dude Wipes. You spent your whole
career to get to this moment promoting Dude Wipes. Brad, Congratulations,
(50:35):
MESSI does it. Although you could bring in the word
MESSI and with Dude Wipes, I think we could have
a collaboration here.
Speaker 8 (50:43):
I like where your head's at. I like, clean up
your messy, clean up your mess exactly.
Speaker 12 (50:47):
It's twenty six nobody's using dry toilet paper anymore.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
Come on now, but you're handing out brown cards dude wipes.
Speaker 12 (50:56):
We are, Yeah, I mean listen to the initiative a
the World Cup. In the excitement as I just mentioned,
nobody's using dry toilet paper anymore. Going out to these
watch parties, these fan fest and seeing you know, people
come in and out a porter bodies. Come on now,
if you're not caring a dude boy body, you're getting
a brown card.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Dudewipes dot com slash brown Card, and you can get
a Brown card plus a free ten pack dude Wipes,
and you can give that out to anybody that you
think needs that help. All right, give us the best
case scenario, Team USA, Like what is reality here?
Speaker 6 (51:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (51:33):
I mean listen, first and foremost, we need to get
out of the group, and then obviously the tournament this
summer has expanded, and so we need to be able
to win some some knockout round games. And I think
if we can get to the round of sixteen, we're
gonna have to play a powerhouse a soccer powerhouse from
around the world somewhere, and in that moment, anything can happen.
(51:54):
And I've said, if we can create one of these
iconic moments such as the goal against Algeria in twenty ten,
or one of these moments where an entire country is
going to get behind the team, I think anything's possible.
And so I think if we can get to the
round of sixteen and have this excitement in the buzz
within the United States get behind the boys, I think
(52:16):
they can make their way to a quarterfinal, and you know,
the sky's the limit at that point.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Great to talk to you, Brad, have fun, appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (52:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Brad Gazane the Fox Sports World Cup studio analyst. He'll
be working the World Cup there. He was part of
two US teams in the World Cup.
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