August 3, 2026 • 33 mins
DP and the Danettes discuss Tarik Skubal being traded to the Dodgers. MLB analyst Tim Kurkjian weighs in on the trade and voices concern over looming CBA negotiations. Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee Larry Fitzgerald shares the story of how he ended up at PITT and looks back on his "welcome to the NFL” moment."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
To no one's surprised the Dodgers get Trek's Scuble. I
think the surprise might have been, are you giving up
big time talent to get him? And I think the
general consensus was could other teams have done this? Probably?
But here's the problem with that. Trek Scuble had the
leverage by saying he wanted to go to the Dodgers
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wanted to go to the West Coast. Therefore, you took
away a lot of the leverage that maybe the Tigers
would have had of what they got in return. The
key will be moving forward, the kind of contract Trek
Scouble is going to want, And of course looming large
is is there going to be a lockout at some point?
Do we lose a baseball season? Do we look back
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on trek Scuoble and go that's when we finally decided
we had to do something. Get a salary cap. I'm okay.
If you want to do a salary cap, if you're
going to have a floor that's raised as well, I
think you got to be fair to the amount of
money that the owners are making. The players Association is
going to be if you're having a salary cap, you've
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got to at least raise the floor so we know
that you're going to have salaries that are at least
commensurate to other teams in the league. Now, you can
spend money stupidly like the Mets did, it's not. The
Dodgers know how to do this organizationally. That's what separates them.
You can have a really good minor league system. You
can also go out and spend for free agents, you know, trades.
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They've done everything, and you've got a brilliant front office
who found a way to circumvent the salary cap and
the rest of the baseball hierarchy here. So I applaud
them for what they did. If I'm a Dodger fan,
that's what I want my ownership to do. Now. Am
I worried about the rest of baseball? I guess if
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you said, hey, you know what, because of this, the
way your team is, this is what's going to happen
in the meantime. Hey, I'm riding the merry go round.
This is great. I wonder if Sho heeo Tani's injuries
may have led to the Dodgers saying we have to
have trek skoubl. It's not a situation of hey, this
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would be a luxury item. It might be something that
they truly need. And keep this in mind, for all
the spending the Dodgers had, how close did the Blue
Jays come to winning the World Series last year? When
you are in a seven game series and all it
takes is one pitcher or two pitchers to get hot,
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or one bat or two bats to get hot, and
all of a sudden things change. So, yes, the Dodgers
prohibitive favorites even before the trade deadline. By the way,
later today is the trade deadline. But if you're looking
at World Series odds, yes, the Dodgers are prohibitive favorites
at plus one fifty, the Yankees at plus six hundred,
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that's really it. Then it goes down to the Brewers
at plus one thousand, the Braves plus one thousand, the
Rays plus fourteen hundred. So yes, is it top heavy
with the Yankees and the Dodgers, Yes, it is. But
I thought the Brewer is going to try to jump in.
And if you put trek Skouble with miss Rowski, look out,
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because then you can take on anybody if you have
two hammers, like that. I always go back to Randy
Johnson and Kirk Shilling when the Diamondbacks had them. They
had hammers and you had to deal with them. But
back then, pitchers were going seven to eight, maybe even
nine innings. Obviously, the game has changed and the Dodgers.
The Dodgers did what I thought they were going to do.
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I'm wondering if they're done at the trade deadline, but
we'll talk to Tim Kirchin. He'll join us coming up.
All right, Dylan, poll question for the first hour is
going to be, what, well, if you had.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
To bet on the World Series winner today, are you
taking the Dodgers or the field.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I'll take the field. I'll take the field. I'm not
fully committed to that, but I for content purposes only,
I would take the field. I just I've been around
this too long where you just see something and you go,
I didn't think that was going to happen. Now. Do
I expect the Dodgers to win, Yes, but can you
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see where something happens? Yes, yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The fact that you had to pause before picking the field,
it's like the field should be the pick. But the
Dodgers of that threatening, they're they're removing any possibility for
an injury that messes them up. They could afford them.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, and I think that's really the key that if
if Shoheyutani can't pitch again, or they're not going to
pitch him, Okay, problem solved. I bring in Trek Scouble.
They already got the line up there. They're outscoring the
opposition by what's the number now, PAULI.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
The Dodgers have outscored their opponents by one hundred and
fifty runs this year. There's only two teams that are
over one hundred and five of They're always one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
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Dylan Possible pull questions for hour one.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Um A simple one. Are you in favor of a
salary cap in baseball?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And does this change the scooble to the Dodgers thing
influence you in that way.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I would think that everybody is going to be in
favor unless you're a Dodger fan for the salary cap.
The Players' Association wouldn't be in favor of it. But
I think as a sports fan, if you look at
the NBA and you've had eight different winners the last
eight years, if that's what you want instead of when
I was growing up, you always had that team. You
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had to beat that team. There was always the dynasty,
whether it was the UCLA Bruins or you know, I
grew up with a big red machine. You know, there
was the Steel Curtain. You had that team you set
your sights on and say we got to be better
than them. You might be kind of parody. Everybody has
a chance. The NFL gives you that every single year.
(06:24):
So I would say most people outside of the player
Association and Dodger fans would be in favor of a
salary cap. Yeah, Paul, you.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Know, like you said that, the salary floor has got
to be more important because if you're a Pirates fan,
I just looked at the Pirate's history. They made the
postseason three times in the past thirty three years. That's
that's less than ten percent. You got to get a
chance to have a chance.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, the Dodgers, they are now paying one hundred and
eighty million dollars in luxury text. That's more than twelve
total teams entire payroll. So there is a problem with that.
It sounded like a stat.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Maybe you were just letting it breathe Is that what
you were doing the anticipation there. I don't know if
you were still going or not, but I was ready, Okay,
I made eye contact with you. I was, you know,
like laser focused. Yeah, well yeah, oh yeah, all right,
so we'll come up with the pole question. Phone calls
is always with best and worst of the weekend. I
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do have updated odds. By the way, Dylan will be
betting on the Hall of Fame game on the next
gambling podcast, right, yes, sir, okay, the Panthers are favored
by one and a half over the Cardinals and the
over unders thirty six and a half. Just let you know.
And yes, I used to bet on preseason football. I
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used to bet on the Hall of Fame game. Oh
that was sad, that very sad. Yes, marmon, how how
low did you have to go preseason football. I know,
but you're so you're you're so energized for football, you're
waiting for it, and you're like, all right, preseason football,
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and you know, I've got depth charts. I'm thinking who's playing,
how long they're playing, starters aren't playing, how good's their
second string, you know, quarterback, running back, all of that stuff. No, sad,
really sad, Yes, Dylan, you could argue that that's the
sharp play.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Like the best run I ever went on betting was
I had a time where I was all over the
preseason hockey point totals.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Sad they weren't man all of a sudden, Brendan Sorosby
doesn't look that bad, yes, bol Which.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Is worse betting on the Hall of Fame game or
being I did that your team wins the Hall of
Fame game, like a fan base us like, if I'm
a Cardinal fan, you know we won that game fourteen thirteen.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know, I'm just saying, if I'm a Cardinal fan,
I'll take any victory. I like a scrimmage. Hey, you
know what, we beat the Commanders, Yes, yes, Mark, No,
don't do that because the Lions are on all four
of their preseason games and then went on to sixteen.
So I'm not sure if they want to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Speaking of football, Sean McVay at his press conference was
talking about the possibility of Aaron Donald returning.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Hey, here's what I would tell you. There won't be
any news on that front until we get back to
Woodland Hills. You know, we have some different things, which
you know, I know, I totally understand. What I don't
want to do is put there's some conversations that we've had,
We've loosely had some different timelines that are kind of temporary.
I want to keep those between us, just you know,
if something unforeseen happens, out of respect for him in
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the situation. But I know this, you know, the things
are going in the right direction, and if there's an arrow,
it's turning upwards.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'm even surprised that he's talking that much about this
because it feels like, now, do I think something's going
to happen? Yes, I do. I think that Aaron Donald
will play because he's saying it's trending upward. I think
you have an idea, a sense of this. If I'm
Aaron Donald, I don't want to go to camp any
sooner than I have to. But if I'm Sean McVay,
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I would probably take the approach of, hey, I want
to talk about the players who were here, instead of
the hypothetical, because then people will you know, you're going
to write down his words, record his words, and then
play the words back to him and what happened. So
I think staying off the topic, even though he's excited
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about the possibility, I would probably remove myself from the
hypothetical of Aaron Donald just say, you know, I got
to set a deadline at some point. I think when
they go back from training camp, then he's gonna have
something to say, and I think that it probably will
be that Aaron Donald is going to come back.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, PAULI, the deadline for Aaron Donald should be during
the national anthem in Week one, he walks on the
field shirtless. I put him in the game.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, I think he's gonna play. It feels like there's
I haven't heard any setbacks. I haven't heard anything of
you know what, there's a chance that maybe he's not
coming back. But I do think that when you can
hear it in his voice, you can hear it in
his voice that he's having some fun with this. He's
excited about this, and rightfully so.
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Speaker 2 (12:17):
We have our play of the day coming up. We'll
settle on our poll question. Your phone call is always welcome.
Best and worst to the weekend. Here's Dodger manager Dave
Roberts on criticism regarding the trade for Terry Skooble.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
There's it just seems like there's always blowback with us.
People are passionate. We feel good about it. There's nothing
that we did that no one else couldn't have done.
You know, I just lot our front office or you know,
we have to have the players to be able to
pull something like this off. And you know we still
got you know, parkably one of the top two or
three or one or two or three farm systems in baseball,
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you know, a day later. So it's a credit to
a lot of people in this organization.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
He's right about that with the farm system to have
the pieces that you can trade away to get Trek's scouble.
Tim Kirkchin, Tim Kirkchin, ESPN Baseball Trade Deadline. They have
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(13:22):
All right, Timmy, where do you stand on what the
Dodgers pulled off here with Trek Scuble?
Speaker 9 (13:30):
How a problem with this? I mean, is it healthy Dan,
that the payroll disparities is what it is in the
major leagues right now? No, it's not healthy, But that's
not the Dodgers fault. A lot of other teams are
spending a lot of money and people don't like to
hear this, but the Dodgers are an exceptionally run organization.
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They draft and develop better than most teams, they teach
better than most teams, So they were in a position
to do this and a lot and Dave Roberts is right,
a lot of other teams could have gone out and
gotten trek Skuble with the understanding of course, they have
the resources and the money that other teams don't have.
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But when it comes to the resources, they've built that
organization so well, that's how they have a really really
good farm system them are able to make a deal
like this.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Does getting schooball now give the Dodgers a luxury of
not having to pitch Otani at any time over the
next month or so.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
Yes, I think it does, And I think they want him.
I know they want him to pitch in October. But
when you get Blake Snell back, and you have Snell
and Yamamoto and Scooble, and when they get Tyler glass
now back and they have Roki Sazaki, it's it's one
hundred miles an hour with a great split. That's already
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five guys right there without Otani. Now they Otani to pitch.
I think Otani will pitch before the end of the season.
But this indeed gives them the opportunity to say, we
need him as a great offensive player, and if pitching
is in any way going to get in the way
of that, we don't have to pitch him because we
just acquired the best pitcher in the American League.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
How do the Dodgers not win the World Series?
Speaker 9 (15:25):
Well, Dan, you played both sports, and you recognize that
anything can happen in baseball, and you have the best
players on a basketball team, and they work really well together,
and Michael and Larry touch it on every possession. That's
different than in baseball because Show is only in about
four or five times a game, and they might not
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pitch to him. But I think the Dodgers are the
clear favorites to win the World Series again, in part
because their roster is just so ridiculously deep, and now
they're pitch staff is equally deep.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Let's get to the expensive elephant in the room about
what this is going to mean for baseball as we
move forward and the CBA and Players Association and all
that mess that we know is looming here.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
Tim, Yeah, mess is a good word for it, Dan,
And I am worried like everyone else that there will
be a lockout there will be games lost next year,
we might lose the whole season. Let's hope none of
that is true. But this, this is where we are
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right now. The two sides are really far apart. Wasn't
that long ago Someone who would know told me never
seen the side this far apart with a deadline looming
this close. So let's just hope that everyone recognizes there
is so much money to be lost in this game
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if we don't play by the players, hand by the owners,
and maybe somehow someone will find a way to put
this together. But if the owners think they're going to
get a salary cap from the players, I just don't
think that's going to happen. And that's why I think
we're going to have a work stoppage at this point.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
But if you look at seventy percent of teams reinvest
less than fifty percent of their revenue back into their
own teams. The recent study had that. So is it
a salary floor that we need more than we need
a salary cap.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
I'm not even sure a floor fixes fixes the situation
either day. Let's just say you have a ninety million
dollar payroll and you're not very good, and you're gonna lose.
You know you're going to win sixty eight games, and
then they make you spend one hundred and fifty million,
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and then you win seventy two games and you only
finish four games higher, and you still don't make the playoffs.
Just because you have a floor doesn't mean you're going
to solve the problem. Is it worth a try? Yes,
it's worth to try. Am I in favor of it? Yes,
I am. But it's not going to solve all the problems.
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The problems are too big to be solved just by
a salary floor.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I thought about this. I saw this the anniversary nineteen
sixty and I thought of you. The Tigers traded their
manager Jimmy Dike's to the Indians for their manager, Joe Gordon.
I figured you would have a story something to add
to this.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
Knowing you, I'm not sure I have a manager for
manager story. I was only three years old at the time, Dan,
But it just goes to show you how beautiful this
game is that just when you think you've seen everything,
something else happened. It's just it's just the craziest, stupidest,
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best game ever, and it's going to be proven again
today because something's going to happen at the trade deadline.
It's just going to make our us slap our foreheads
like we do all the time. But that's why baseball
is so great is it's so unpredictable and I never
know what's going to be around the corner. This year.
I've been wrong Dan so many times about so many things,
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so many teams, and I'm not apologizing to anybody for it,
because it just proves dead. The game is so beautiful,
it's too good to be predicted. And Dan, it troubles
me a little bit that we're trying to predict what
a player is going to look like five years from now,
or a team is going to look like five years
from now, and we don't even know it's going to
look like five minutes from now. That's just how the
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game operates.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Are you surprised like I am, that the mic cackage
Fritz Peterson swapping wives they were teammates hasn't been made
into a movie yet.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
The children to Dan imagine doing that? I mean, I just.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes, named children be named later. I think.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
For a fifth grader to be named later. No, I'm
shocked that more wasn't made out of that At the time. Magine, Dan,
if something like that were to happen today, with Twitter
x whatever it's called, the Internet, all that stuff, it
would be total bedlam. Yes, I think at some point
someone needs to make a movie about that, because it
(20:33):
actually happened between Major League baseball players.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Thanks for squeezing us in. I know you're busy. Safe travels,
Thank you, Timmy.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
All right, Dan, see it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's Tim Kirkchin of the mothership.
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Speaker 2 (20:58):
Larry Fitzgerald in the on deck circle for the Pro
Football Hall of Fame coming up this Saturday, seventeen seasons
as the Cardinals wide receiver, eleven time Pro Bowler and
second NFL receiving touchdown leader and part of the All
Decade team First ballid Hall of Fame. Running down the list.
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Pretty good resume there, Larry. Congratulations on the honor. How
long would it take for you to get ready? If
you know, like we're waiting for Aaron Donald, how long
would it take for you to get ready for this season?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (21:35):
I think that ship is sos No, there's no coming
back for me, you know. I you know, thinking about
what Aaron's you know, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
He's a fitness freak though.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
You know, he's a big guy, and you know he
just constantly stays in shape. That's kind of part of
his rituals. So I think his bounce back will be
a lot quicker. But to be out of the game
for a few years and get back into that the trenches,
the double teams and all of the things that he's
got to deal with, you know's that's quite impressive.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You think he's coming back. I think he's one of those.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
Guys who loves the game, and he's going back to
a team who legitimately has a great chance to be
able to win a championship with the dishon the Miles Garrett.
You put those two and you know, Young and a
couple of other guys in that defensive front, you know,
they they present a formidable challenge for any offensive line
and scheme that they would play against. And he obviously
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you know with Puka, Davonte Adams and you know Kurrn Williams,
you know Kirwin and I mean they're loaded over there.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
What is it about pitt Guys? How did you end
up at pitt Dan?
Speaker 10 (22:40):
It was actually a crazy story. Mobrins the coordinator guy Rest.
His soul's name was Ed Cole. He was taking me
in a couple of my teammates and unofficial visits. So
we went to University Illinois, we went to Notre Day
and we're Howe State and we were on our way
to Penn State. It was a really really bad, uh
you know, rainstorm or the turnpike, so actually shut the
turnpike down based on visiting and so stay trooper shut
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it down. My coach said, hey, we can't get up there.
We call Penn State let them know what happened. They said,
can we can? We rescheduled for the following day. So
we had a full day in Pittsburgh and Coach Cole said, hey,
we're here in town, why don't we just go visit
University of Pittsburgh. You know Dan Marinos, Tonya Dur said
Curtis Martin. He started naming off all the great players,
and I said, yeah, let's let's let's go by.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Literally we go over, we meet Wildhare, Shady Brook, Hard,
you know, all the coaching staff there.
Speaker 10 (23:29):
They had no idea who I was. We end up
leaving the next day, we're driving the Pennchtate. They called
my coach's cell phone. They offered me a scholarship, and
it just kind of started from there.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So if you don't have that rainstorm, you might not
have ended up at Pitt.
Speaker 10 (23:44):
There's no chance I would have been there, because they
didn't really they don't.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
They don't recruit Minnesota.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
That's not some place they actually go, and so there's
zero zero percent chance I would have gone there.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
When did you know you were good?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I would say when I was when I was young.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
I mean I was always better than everybody I played against,
even at seven years old.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
But everybody used to always say, you're from Minnesota.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
You know you play you know you play three eight
three a high school football.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Your competition is horrible. And so I had that seate
of doubt in.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
My mind a little bit that the competition was just
that bad. And then I got to college and about
week two I realized that I had what it to
not only just be there, but actually be a good player.
And if I continue to stay on that trajectory, I
might have a chance.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And of course, your dad was a longtime sports writer.
You're up there in Minnesota covering the Vikings, you get
to be a ball boy. You've talked about that experience
many times, but the fact that Randy moss Is knocks
on your door to tell you you're going into the
Hall of Fame take us back to the first time
you met Randy Moss.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
So my first memory of Randy is pretty vivid.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
I was a ball boy, and me and a couple
of ball boys were actually in the gym at Mankato
State and it was they could walk through the gym
to head to the practice field, and we were in
there playing basketball, shooting horse and Randy had to walk
through out there.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
So they were getting ready to walk through, and it
was his birthday.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
I think he held out of camp for you know,
a day or two or so, I can't remember, but
it was his first day. So it was a huge anticipation,
and obviously, you know, we'd all followed this journey at
Marshall and he wanted to see him. And I remember
him like throws the ball and he hit like two
three pointers from like about two feet behind the three
point lines, and before he before he comes and the
dunks it outside.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
You know, it's like, you know, the circle there, and.
Speaker 10 (25:39):
He dunks it and he walks out, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, this.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Is so unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
I'm fourteen years old at the time and just so
enamored and like, that was my first experience of Moss.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
What was your welcome to the NFL moment.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
Happened Week two we my rookie year. We played the
New England Patriots, and I'll never forget. I was going
to running across the route and William McGinnis like rearranged
my whole face masses back when they used to really
like collision you and he was dropping out in the
coverage and I wasn't paying attention and he decapitated me.
(26:20):
I got up and then my coach was like, you
gotta be more physical, you gotta be more physical.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
So it's quarters.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
I come up and I hit Rodney here because as
hard as I can drop them on the ground, and
to look in his eyes, he's chasing me back to
the huddle and I get back to the syl I'm like, coach,
why did you have me do to this man? It
is absolutely crazy? And he proceeded to chase me around
the rest of the game. I could not wait till
that game was over, and I realized, like, why the
Patriots defense.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
You know, they had Teddy Bruski and Mike Brabel and.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
Ted Johnson, and I mean, like, these dudes were Vince
will Fork. I mean these dudes were massive, physical, mean, aggressive.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Angry men. And I learned that at twenty years old
very quick.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I could imagine Rodney Harrison was going to get you back,
because Rodney Rodney got everybody. I remember he told me
that he got fined or got suspended. He he had
a shot on Jerry Rice across the middle. He said,
I took him out. That's what you're supposed to do.
Game's changed a little bit since that Larry.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
It has, it has.
Speaker 10 (27:23):
I think it's much better. Guys can play a lot longer,
and you know, I think we need we needed to
make the game a little bit safer. It's it's it's
not as nearly as violent going across that middle. You know,
the Steve at Waters and the Joey Browners and the
Jack Tatums of the world, you know, would be very
disappointed in a way we play game.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Now we're talking to Larry Fitzgerald got the big speech
coming up. How many times you practiced it?
Speaker 10 (27:48):
I practiced it a ton of times, actually working very
closely with a former colleague of yours, Jerry Madaline, you know,
helping me kind of get trying to get prepared for it, so, uh,
you know, five or six times a day so to
make sure I have it, have it down pad on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay, are tears in the script?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Tears are never in the script. You know, you know that,
But you never know how you're going to respond.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
You know, you see family and friends and people who
have really played a massive role in your life shitting
in the front, and you know, I just don't know
how I'm going to respond to to them, you know,
if they're emotional, or one of my kids is emotional.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
You know, things you can't really practice that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And your son is going to induct you, Yes.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
Sir, my oldest son, Devin, He's going to come out
and do it. I'm really really happy. I was going
to originally have my father do it before he passed
away a couple of months ago. But you know, to
be able to have my son do it, it's it's
a tremendous honor, and I'm so privileged to have that.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, it's going to be tough when you see your
son out there and he starts talking about dad.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I got my daughter's wedding coming up in two weeks
and I got to give a speech and I'm already
a mess. I practice it every single day, and I'm
a mess when nobody is there listening to me. So
I can't imagine what that's going.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
To be like.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You're gonna you're gonna see your life in front of
you with all teammates, former teammates and people from college
and high school, and you'll probably be a mess. And
that's okay.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, I definitely will be. Dan.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
Let me ask you this, Are you going to be
crying because of the speech and emotions or are you
going to be thinking about how much it costs you
for your daughter's wedding?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
What will be Well?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I already cried. I already cried about that. Yeah. Yeah,
as I told people, it takes a village to put
on a wedding. It takes a bank account as well
to put on on a wedding. But yeah, I'm I'm
going to be a mess, and I don't know how
to prevent myself from crying. Has anybody told you if
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you do this, you might not cry, or this is
the best thing to do to not be too emotional.
Speaker 10 (29:58):
No, I think that it will draw emotions. And people
told me it's going to be one of the most
emotional things you've ever done. You know you have, You've
been planned for thirty years and you know this is
the culmination of that, the greatest honor you could ever have,
and so it should it should be emotional.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
It shouldn't mean something to you.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
But I think the more you practice and the more
you're prepared, you know, when you do have those emotions,
you can be able to work through it and get
back to the messages you're trying to deliver.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And acknowledging your father as well.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Absolutely, Yeah, Pops played a big role.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Just none of it would even be possible it wasn't
for his sacrifices. You know, he put me in these
positions around people that I could learn from and have
some wonderful mentors, and so you know, his presence and
and his just breadth of knowledge and fingerprints are all
over my life.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Uh, go back to the Randy Moss loaning you as
car when you went to prom What what kind of
car was it that Randy Moss lent you?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
It was?
Speaker 10 (30:59):
It was a lou seven forty five l I I
still remember like it was yesterday.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
It was. It was immaculine shape.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
And you know, once a small detail I left out
when I asked him about it was, you know, I
didn't I didn't know. I didn't tell him that I
didn't have my driver's license yet, and so, you know,
and I.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Don't know how. I don't know how your dad was.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
But my dad when he was home, because he was
always traveling covering the twins in the summertime, he was
in Kansas City or Detroit or Cleveland or Chicago company
to White Sox. So when he got home, he really
didn't want to he was trying to be home, and
so he would have throw me the keys to the
Pontiac and I would just get to drive up to
the park and go practice and work out. And so
he would always just tell me to take the backstreet,
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so I felt like I could drive. I never went
on the freeway or anything like that to the side street,
so I felt like I was pretty I was pretty
solid with the car. But I never really had anybody
else in the car with me, you know, so it
was a it was a memory. I got it back
to him, no issues. I didn't I didn't tell my dates,
Mom and dadd either.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I didn't have a license ed. We kept all those
things to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
That's pretty cool. Can you can you thank your hands
during your Hall of Fame speech for me? Just a
little comic relief up there?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I think was it Freddie Mitchell who thanked his hands?
Remember the Eagles wide receiver? I think you thanked his hands.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, well you're not. You're not somebody who is.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
That's not really much. That's not really much, jam And uh,
you know, I feel like I did. I did have
good hands, but I worked at it.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
You know. It was thousands and thousands of.
Speaker 10 (32:37):
Hours of you know, catching catching balls consistently to try
to get them to where they were.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, but see, you didn't fall in line with the
diva wide receivers that.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I was just as big.
Speaker 10 (32:51):
I was just as big of a diva as everyone else.
But I never I never did it in public. You know,
I'd always keep it to myself or you know, if
I had a question about targets things that maketure I
would do it in a way where you know, it
wasn't showing up anybody or didn't put me in a
position where I would, you know, seem to be more
more worried about my own personal you know, ask and
(33:15):
accomplishments than it was for my team. And so you know,
I wanted it just as bad as anybody else did,
but I knew there was a way to do it,
in a way not to do it, in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Congrats, been fun watching and uh, you know this is uh,
this is your moment. You've earned it, first Balance Hall
of Famer. Good luck this weekend.
Speaker 10 (33:36):
Thank you, Thank you great seeing you out of Tahoe.
And congratulations to you and your family on your daughter's wedding.
And I hope you have an amazing time. Thank you,
Larry all Right, they have a great day.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
To no one's surprised the Dodgers get Trek's Scuble. I
think the surprise might have been, are you giving up
big time talent to get him? And I think the
general consensus was could other teams have done this? Probably?
But here's the problem with that. Trek Scuble had the
leverage by saying he wanted to go to the Dodgers
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wanted to go to the West Coast. Therefore, you took
away a lot of the leverage that maybe the Tigers
would have had of what they got in return. The
key will be moving forward, the kind of contract Trek
Scouble is going to want, And of course looming large
is is there going to be a lockout at some point?
Do we lose a baseball season? Do we look back
(00:47):
on trek Scuoble and go that's when we finally decided
we had to do something. Get a salary cap. I'm okay.
If you want to do a salary cap, if you're
going to have a floor that's raised as well, I
think you got to be fair to the amount of
money that the owners are making. The players Association is
going to be if you're having a salary cap, you've
(01:08):
got to at least raise the floor so we know
that you're going to have salaries that are at least
commensurate to other teams in the league. Now, you can
spend money stupidly like the Mets did, it's not. The
Dodgers know how to do this organizationally. That's what separates them.
You can have a really good minor league system. You
can also go out and spend for free agents, you know, trades.
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They've done everything, and you've got a brilliant front office
who found a way to circumvent the salary cap and
the rest of the baseball hierarchy here. So I applaud
them for what they did. If I'm a Dodger fan,
that's what I want my ownership to do. Now. Am
I worried about the rest of baseball? I guess if
(01:52):
you said, hey, you know what, because of this, the
way your team is, this is what's going to happen
in the meantime. Hey, I'm riding the merry go round.
This is great. I wonder if Sho heeo Tani's injuries
may have led to the Dodgers saying we have to
have trek skoubl. It's not a situation of hey, this
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would be a luxury item. It might be something that
they truly need. And keep this in mind, for all
the spending the Dodgers had, how close did the Blue
Jays come to winning the World Series last year? When
you are in a seven game series and all it
takes is one pitcher or two pitchers to get hot,
(02:34):
or one bat or two bats to get hot, and
all of a sudden things change. So, yes, the Dodgers
prohibitive favorites even before the trade deadline. By the way,
later today is the trade deadline. But if you're looking
at World Series odds, yes, the Dodgers are prohibitive favorites
at plus one fifty, the Yankees at plus six hundred,
(02:55):
that's really it. Then it goes down to the Brewers
at plus one thousand, the Braves plus one thousand, the
Rays plus fourteen hundred. So yes, is it top heavy
with the Yankees and the Dodgers, Yes, it is. But
I thought the Brewer is going to try to jump in.
And if you put trek Skouble with miss Rowski, look out,
(03:15):
because then you can take on anybody if you have
two hammers, like that. I always go back to Randy
Johnson and Kirk Shilling when the Diamondbacks had them. They
had hammers and you had to deal with them. But
back then, pitchers were going seven to eight, maybe even
nine innings. Obviously, the game has changed and the Dodgers.
The Dodgers did what I thought they were going to do.
(03:37):
I'm wondering if they're done at the trade deadline, but
we'll talk to Tim Kirchin. He'll join us coming up.
All right, Dylan, poll question for the first hour is
going to be, what, well, if you had.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
To bet on the World Series winner today, are you
taking the Dodgers or the field.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I'll take the field. I'll take the field. I'm not
fully committed to that, but I for content purposes only,
I would take the field. I just I've been around
this too long where you just see something and you go,
I didn't think that was going to happen. Now. Do
I expect the Dodgers to win, Yes, but can you
(04:20):
see where something happens? Yes, yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The fact that you had to pause before picking the field,
it's like the field should be the pick. But the
Dodgers of that threatening, they're they're removing any possibility for
an injury that messes them up. They could afford them.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, and I think that's really the key that if
if Shoheyutani can't pitch again, or they're not going to
pitch him, Okay, problem solved. I bring in Trek Scouble.
They already got the line up there. They're outscoring the
opposition by what's the number now, PAULI.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
The Dodgers have outscored their opponents by one hundred and
fifty runs this year. There's only two teams that are
over one hundred and five of They're always one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
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Dylan Possible pull questions for hour one.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Um A simple one. Are you in favor of a
salary cap in baseball?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And does this change the scooble to the Dodgers thing
influence you in that way.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I would think that everybody is going to be in
favor unless you're a Dodger fan for the salary cap.
The Players' Association wouldn't be in favor of it. But
I think as a sports fan, if you look at
the NBA and you've had eight different winners the last
eight years, if that's what you want instead of when
I was growing up, you always had that team. You
(06:00):
had to beat that team. There was always the dynasty,
whether it was the UCLA Bruins or you know, I
grew up with a big red machine. You know, there
was the Steel Curtain. You had that team you set
your sights on and say we got to be better
than them. You might be kind of parody. Everybody has
a chance. The NFL gives you that every single year.
(06:24):
So I would say most people outside of the player
Association and Dodger fans would be in favor of a
salary cap. Yeah, Paul, you.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Know, like you said that, the salary floor has got
to be more important because if you're a Pirates fan,
I just looked at the Pirate's history. They made the
postseason three times in the past thirty three years. That's
that's less than ten percent. You got to get a
chance to have a chance.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, the Dodgers, they are now paying one hundred and
eighty million dollars in luxury text. That's more than twelve
total teams entire payroll. So there is a problem with that.
It sounded like a stat.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Maybe you were just letting it breathe Is that what
you were doing the anticipation there. I don't know if
you were still going or not, but I was ready, Okay,
I made eye contact with you. I was, you know,
like laser focused. Yeah, well yeah, oh yeah, all right,
so we'll come up with the pole question. Phone calls
is always with best and worst of the weekend. I
(07:35):
do have updated odds. By the way, Dylan will be
betting on the Hall of Fame game on the next
gambling podcast, right, yes, sir, okay, the Panthers are favored
by one and a half over the Cardinals and the
over unders thirty six and a half. Just let you know.
And yes, I used to bet on preseason football. I
(07:57):
used to bet on the Hall of Fame game. Oh
that was sad, that very sad. Yes, marmon, how how
low did you have to go preseason football. I know,
but you're so you're you're so energized for football, you're
waiting for it, and you're like, all right, preseason football,
(08:19):
and you know, I've got depth charts. I'm thinking who's playing,
how long they're playing, starters aren't playing, how good's their
second string, you know, quarterback, running back, all of that stuff. No, sad,
really sad, Yes, Dylan, you could argue that that's the
sharp play.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Like the best run I ever went on betting was
I had a time where I was all over the
preseason hockey point totals.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Sad they weren't man all of a sudden, Brendan Sorosby
doesn't look that bad, yes, bol Which.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Is worse betting on the Hall of Fame game or
being I did that your team wins the Hall of
Fame game, like a fan base us like, if I'm
a Cardinal fan, you know we won that game fourteen thirteen.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know, I'm just saying, if I'm a Cardinal fan,
I'll take any victory. I like a scrimmage. Hey, you
know what, we beat the Commanders, Yes, yes, Mark, No,
don't do that because the Lions are on all four
of their preseason games and then went on to sixteen.
So I'm not sure if they want to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Speaking of football, Sean McVay at his press conference was
talking about the possibility of Aaron Donald returning.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Hey, here's what I would tell you. There won't be
any news on that front until we get back to
Woodland Hills. You know, we have some different things, which
you know, I know, I totally understand. What I don't
want to do is put there's some conversations that we've had,
We've loosely had some different timelines that are kind of temporary.
I want to keep those between us, just you know,
if something unforeseen happens, out of respect for him in
(09:55):
the situation. But I know this, you know, the things
are going in the right direction, and if there's an arrow,
it's turning upwards.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'm even surprised that he's talking that much about this
because it feels like, now, do I think something's going
to happen? Yes, I do. I think that Aaron Donald
will play because he's saying it's trending upward. I think
you have an idea, a sense of this. If I'm
Aaron Donald, I don't want to go to camp any
sooner than I have to. But if I'm Sean McVay,
(10:26):
I would probably take the approach of, hey, I want
to talk about the players who were here, instead of
the hypothetical, because then people will you know, you're going
to write down his words, record his words, and then
play the words back to him and what happened. So
I think staying off the topic, even though he's excited
(10:47):
about the possibility, I would probably remove myself from the
hypothetical of Aaron Donald just say, you know, I got
to set a deadline at some point. I think when
they go back from training camp, then he's gonna have
something to say, and I think that it probably will
be that Aaron Donald is going to come back.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, PAULI, the deadline for Aaron Donald should be during
the national anthem in Week one, he walks on the
field shirtless. I put him in the game.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, I think he's gonna play. It feels like there's
I haven't heard any setbacks. I haven't heard anything of
you know what, there's a chance that maybe he's not
coming back. But I do think that when you can
hear it in his voice, you can hear it in
his voice that he's having some fun with this. He's
excited about this, and rightfully so.
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Speaker 2 (12:17):
We have our play of the day coming up. We'll
settle on our poll question. Your phone call is always welcome.
Best and worst to the weekend. Here's Dodger manager Dave
Roberts on criticism regarding the trade for Terry Skooble.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
There's it just seems like there's always blowback with us.
People are passionate. We feel good about it. There's nothing
that we did that no one else couldn't have done.
You know, I just lot our front office or you know,
we have to have the players to be able to
pull something like this off. And you know we still
got you know, parkably one of the top two or
three or one or two or three farm systems in baseball,
(12:54):
you know, a day later. So it's a credit to
a lot of people in this organization.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
He's right about that with the farm system to have
the pieces that you can trade away to get Trek's scouble.
Tim Kirkchin, Tim Kirkchin, ESPN Baseball Trade Deadline. They have
a special on the Mothership from four to six Eastern.
Tim will be there with Jeff Pass Andbuster only at
Bardo Perez and Kevin Conners the trade deadline six pm Eastern.
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All right, Timmy, where do you stand on what the
Dodgers pulled off here with Trek Scuble?
Speaker 9 (13:30):
How a problem with this? I mean, is it healthy Dan,
that the payroll disparities is what it is in the
major leagues right now? No, it's not healthy, But that's
not the Dodgers fault. A lot of other teams are
spending a lot of money and people don't like to
hear this, but the Dodgers are an exceptionally run organization.
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They draft and develop better than most teams, they teach
better than most teams, So they were in a position
to do this and a lot and Dave Roberts is right,
a lot of other teams could have gone out and
gotten trek Skuble with the understanding of course, they have
the resources and the money that other teams don't have.
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But when it comes to the resources, they've built that
organization so well, that's how they have a really really
good farm system them are able to make a deal
like this.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Does getting schooball now give the Dodgers a luxury of
not having to pitch Otani at any time over the
next month or so.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
Yes, I think it does, And I think they want him.
I know they want him to pitch in October. But
when you get Blake Snell back, and you have Snell
and Yamamoto and Scooble, and when they get Tyler glass
now back and they have Roki Sazaki, it's it's one
hundred miles an hour with a great split. That's already
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five guys right there without Otani. Now they Otani to pitch.
I think Otani will pitch before the end of the season.
But this indeed gives them the opportunity to say, we
need him as a great offensive player, and if pitching
is in any way going to get in the way
of that, we don't have to pitch him because we
just acquired the best pitcher in the American League.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
How do the Dodgers not win the World Series?
Speaker 9 (15:25):
Well, Dan, you played both sports, and you recognize that
anything can happen in baseball, and you have the best
players on a basketball team, and they work really well together,
and Michael and Larry touch it on every possession. That's
different than in baseball because Show is only in about
four or five times a game, and they might not
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pitch to him. But I think the Dodgers are the
clear favorites to win the World Series again, in part
because their roster is just so ridiculously deep, and now
they're pitch staff is equally deep.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Let's get to the expensive elephant in the room about
what this is going to mean for baseball as we
move forward and the CBA and Players Association and all
that mess that we know is looming here.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
Tim, Yeah, mess is a good word for it, Dan,
And I am worried like everyone else that there will
be a lockout there will be games lost next year,
we might lose the whole season. Let's hope none of
that is true. But this, this is where we are
(16:39):
right now. The two sides are really far apart. Wasn't
that long ago Someone who would know told me never
seen the side this far apart with a deadline looming
this close. So let's just hope that everyone recognizes there
is so much money to be lost in this game
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if we don't play by the players, hand by the owners,
and maybe somehow someone will find a way to put
this together. But if the owners think they're going to
get a salary cap from the players, I just don't
think that's going to happen. And that's why I think
we're going to have a work stoppage at this point.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
But if you look at seventy percent of teams reinvest
less than fifty percent of their revenue back into their
own teams. The recent study had that. So is it
a salary floor that we need more than we need
a salary cap.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
I'm not even sure a floor fixes fixes the situation
either day. Let's just say you have a ninety million
dollar payroll and you're not very good, and you're gonna lose.
You know you're going to win sixty eight games, and
then they make you spend one hundred and fifty million,
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and then you win seventy two games and you only
finish four games higher, and you still don't make the playoffs.
Just because you have a floor doesn't mean you're going
to solve the problem. Is it worth a try? Yes,
it's worth to try. Am I in favor of it? Yes,
I am. But it's not going to solve all the problems.
(18:18):
The problems are too big to be solved just by
a salary floor.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I thought about this. I saw this the anniversary nineteen
sixty and I thought of you. The Tigers traded their
manager Jimmy Dike's to the Indians for their manager, Joe Gordon.
I figured you would have a story something to add
to this.
Speaker 9 (18:38):
Knowing you, I'm not sure I have a manager for
manager story. I was only three years old at the time, Dan,
But it just goes to show you how beautiful this
game is that just when you think you've seen everything,
something else happened. It's just it's just the craziest, stupidest,
(18:59):
best game ever, and it's going to be proven again
today because something's going to happen at the trade deadline.
It's just going to make our us slap our foreheads
like we do all the time. But that's why baseball
is so great is it's so unpredictable and I never
know what's going to be around the corner. This year.
I've been wrong Dan so many times about so many things,
(19:23):
so many teams, and I'm not apologizing to anybody for it,
because it just proves dead. The game is so beautiful,
it's too good to be predicted. And Dan, it troubles
me a little bit that we're trying to predict what
a player is going to look like five years from now,
or a team is going to look like five years
from now, and we don't even know it's going to
look like five minutes from now. That's just how the
(19:46):
game operates.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Are you surprised like I am, that the mic cackage
Fritz Peterson swapping wives they were teammates hasn't been made
into a movie yet.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
The children to Dan imagine doing that? I mean, I just.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes, named children be named later. I think.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
For a fifth grader to be named later. No, I'm
shocked that more wasn't made out of that At the time. Magine, Dan,
if something like that were to happen today, with Twitter
x whatever it's called, the Internet, all that stuff, it
would be total bedlam. Yes, I think at some point
someone needs to make a movie about that, because it
(20:33):
actually happened between Major League baseball players.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Thanks for squeezing us in. I know you're busy. Safe travels,
Thank you, Timmy.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
All right, Dan, see it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's Tim Kirkchin of the mothership.
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Speaker 2 (20:58):
Larry Fitzgerald in the on deck circle for the Pro
Football Hall of Fame coming up this Saturday, seventeen seasons
as the Cardinals wide receiver, eleven time Pro Bowler and
second NFL receiving touchdown leader and part of the All
Decade team First ballid Hall of Fame. Running down the list.
(21:21):
Pretty good resume there, Larry. Congratulations on the honor. How
long would it take for you to get ready? If
you know, like we're waiting for Aaron Donald, how long
would it take for you to get ready for this season?
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (21:35):
I think that ship is sos No, there's no coming
back for me, you know. I you know, thinking about
what Aaron's you know, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
He's a fitness freak though.
Speaker 10 (21:46):
You know, he's a big guy, and you know he
just constantly stays in shape. That's kind of part of
his rituals. So I think his bounce back will be
a lot quicker. But to be out of the game
for a few years and get back into that the trenches,
the double teams and all of the things that he's
got to deal with, you know's that's quite impressive.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You think he's coming back. I think he's one of those.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
Guys who loves the game, and he's going back to
a team who legitimately has a great chance to be
able to win a championship with the dishon the Miles Garrett.
You put those two and you know, Young and a
couple of other guys in that defensive front, you know,
they they present a formidable challenge for any offensive line
and scheme that they would play against. And he obviously
(22:28):
you know with Puka, Davonte Adams and you know Kurrn Williams,
you know Kirwin and I mean they're loaded over there.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
What is it about pitt Guys? How did you end
up at pitt Dan?
Speaker 10 (22:40):
It was actually a crazy story. Mobrins the coordinator guy Rest.
His soul's name was Ed Cole. He was taking me
in a couple of my teammates and unofficial visits. So
we went to University Illinois, we went to Notre Day
and we're Howe State and we were on our way
to Penn State. It was a really really bad, uh
you know, rainstorm or the turnpike, so actually shut the
turnpike down based on visiting and so stay trooper shut
(23:02):
it down. My coach said, hey, we can't get up there.
We call Penn State let them know what happened. They said,
can we can? We rescheduled for the following day. So
we had a full day in Pittsburgh and Coach Cole said, hey,
we're here in town, why don't we just go visit
University of Pittsburgh. You know Dan Marinos, Tonya Dur said
Curtis Martin. He started naming off all the great players,
and I said, yeah, let's let's let's go by.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Literally we go over, we meet Wildhare, Shady Brook, Hard,
you know, all the coaching staff there.
Speaker 10 (23:29):
They had no idea who I was. We end up
leaving the next day, we're driving the Pennchtate. They called
my coach's cell phone. They offered me a scholarship, and
it just kind of started from there.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So if you don't have that rainstorm, you might not
have ended up at Pitt.
Speaker 10 (23:44):
There's no chance I would have been there, because they
didn't really they don't.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
They don't recruit Minnesota.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
That's not some place they actually go, and so there's
zero zero percent chance I would have gone there.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
When did you know you were good?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I would say when I was when I was young.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
I mean I was always better than everybody I played against,
even at seven years old.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
But everybody used to always say, you're from Minnesota.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
You know you play you know you play three eight
three a high school football.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Your competition is horrible. And so I had that seate
of doubt in.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
My mind a little bit that the competition was just
that bad. And then I got to college and about
week two I realized that I had what it to
not only just be there, but actually be a good player.
And if I continue to stay on that trajectory, I
might have a chance.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And of course, your dad was a longtime sports writer.
You're up there in Minnesota covering the Vikings, you get
to be a ball boy. You've talked about that experience
many times, but the fact that Randy moss Is knocks
on your door to tell you you're going into the
Hall of Fame take us back to the first time
you met Randy Moss.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
So my first memory of Randy is pretty vivid.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
I was a ball boy, and me and a couple
of ball boys were actually in the gym at Mankato
State and it was they could walk through the gym
to head to the practice field, and we were in
there playing basketball, shooting horse and Randy had to walk
through out there.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
So they were getting ready to walk through, and it
was his birthday.
Speaker 10 (25:15):
I think he held out of camp for you know,
a day or two or so, I can't remember, but
it was his first day. So it was a huge anticipation,
and obviously, you know, we'd all followed this journey at
Marshall and he wanted to see him. And I remember
him like throws the ball and he hit like two
three pointers from like about two feet behind the three
point lines, and before he before he comes and the
dunks it outside.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
You know, it's like, you know, the circle there, and.
Speaker 10 (25:39):
He dunks it and he walks out, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, this.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Is so unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (25:45):
I'm fourteen years old at the time and just so
enamored and like, that was my first experience of Moss.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
What was your welcome to the NFL moment.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
Happened Week two we my rookie year. We played the
New England Patriots, and I'll never forget. I was going
to running across the route and William McGinnis like rearranged
my whole face masses back when they used to really
like collision you and he was dropping out in the
coverage and I wasn't paying attention and he decapitated me.
(26:20):
I got up and then my coach was like, you
gotta be more physical, you gotta be more physical.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
So it's quarters.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
I come up and I hit Rodney here because as
hard as I can drop them on the ground, and
to look in his eyes, he's chasing me back to
the huddle and I get back to the syl I'm like, coach,
why did you have me do to this man? It
is absolutely crazy? And he proceeded to chase me around
the rest of the game. I could not wait till
that game was over, and I realized, like, why the
Patriots defense.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
You know, they had Teddy Bruski and Mike Brabel and.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
Ted Johnson, and I mean, like, these dudes were Vince
will Fork. I mean these dudes were massive, physical, mean, aggressive.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Angry men. And I learned that at twenty years old
very quick.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I could imagine Rodney Harrison was going to get you back,
because Rodney Rodney got everybody. I remember he told me
that he got fined or got suspended. He he had
a shot on Jerry Rice across the middle. He said,
I took him out. That's what you're supposed to do.
Game's changed a little bit since that Larry.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
It has, it has.
Speaker 10 (27:23):
I think it's much better. Guys can play a lot longer,
and you know, I think we need we needed to
make the game a little bit safer. It's it's it's
not as nearly as violent going across that middle. You know,
the Steve at Waters and the Joey Browners and the
Jack Tatums of the world, you know, would be very
disappointed in a way we play game.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Now we're talking to Larry Fitzgerald got the big speech
coming up. How many times you practiced it?
Speaker 10 (27:48):
I practiced it a ton of times, actually working very
closely with a former colleague of yours, Jerry Madaline, you know,
helping me kind of get trying to get prepared for it, so, uh,
you know, five or six times a day so to
make sure I have it, have it down pad on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay, are tears in the script?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Tears are never in the script. You know, you know that,
But you never know how you're going to respond.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
You know, you see family and friends and people who
have really played a massive role in your life shitting
in the front, and you know, I just don't know
how I'm going to respond to to them, you know,
if they're emotional, or one of my kids is emotional.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
You know, things you can't really practice that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And your son is going to induct you, Yes.
Speaker 10 (28:36):
Sir, my oldest son, Devin, He's going to come out
and do it. I'm really really happy. I was going
to originally have my father do it before he passed
away a couple of months ago. But you know, to
be able to have my son do it, it's it's
a tremendous honor, and I'm so privileged to have that.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, it's going to be tough when you see your
son out there and he starts talking about dad.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I got my daughter's wedding coming up in two weeks
and I got to give a speech and I'm already
a mess. I practice it every single day, and I'm
a mess when nobody is there listening to me. So
I can't imagine what that's going.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
To be like.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
You're gonna you're gonna see your life in front of
you with all teammates, former teammates and people from college
and high school, and you'll probably be a mess. And
that's okay.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, I definitely will be. Dan.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
Let me ask you this, Are you going to be
crying because of the speech and emotions or are you
going to be thinking about how much it costs you
for your daughter's wedding?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
What will be Well?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I already cried. I already cried about that. Yeah. Yeah,
as I told people, it takes a village to put
on a wedding. It takes a bank account as well
to put on on a wedding. But yeah, I'm I'm
going to be a mess, and I don't know how
to prevent myself from crying. Has anybody told you if
(29:53):
you do this, you might not cry, or this is
the best thing to do to not be too emotional.
Speaker 10 (29:58):
No, I think that it will draw emotions. And people
told me it's going to be one of the most
emotional things you've ever done. You know you have, You've
been planned for thirty years and you know this is
the culmination of that, the greatest honor you could ever have,
and so it should it should be emotional.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
It shouldn't mean something to you.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
But I think the more you practice and the more
you're prepared, you know, when you do have those emotions,
you can be able to work through it and get
back to the messages you're trying to deliver.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And acknowledging your father as well.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Absolutely, Yeah, Pops played a big role.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Just none of it would even be possible it wasn't
for his sacrifices. You know, he put me in these
positions around people that I could learn from and have
some wonderful mentors, and so you know, his presence and
and his just breadth of knowledge and fingerprints are all
over my life.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Uh, go back to the Randy Moss loaning you as
car when you went to prom What what kind of
car was it that Randy Moss lent you?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
It was?
Speaker 10 (30:59):
It was a lou seven forty five l I I
still remember like it was yesterday.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
It was. It was immaculine shape.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
And you know, once a small detail I left out
when I asked him about it was, you know, I
didn't I didn't know. I didn't tell him that I
didn't have my driver's license yet, and so, you know,
and I.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Don't know how. I don't know how your dad was.
Speaker 10 (31:21):
But my dad when he was home, because he was
always traveling covering the twins in the summertime, he was
in Kansas City or Detroit or Cleveland or Chicago company
to White Sox. So when he got home, he really
didn't want to he was trying to be home, and
so he would have throw me the keys to the
Pontiac and I would just get to drive up to
the park and go practice and work out. And so
he would always just tell me to take the backstreet,
(31:41):
so I felt like I could drive. I never went
on the freeway or anything like that to the side street,
so I felt like I was pretty I was pretty
solid with the car. But I never really had anybody
else in the car with me, you know, so it
was a it was a memory. I got it back
to him, no issues. I didn't I didn't tell my dates,
Mom and dadd either.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I didn't have a license ed. We kept all those
things to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
That's pretty cool. Can you can you thank your hands
during your Hall of Fame speech for me? Just a
little comic relief up there?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I think was it Freddie Mitchell who thanked his hands?
Remember the Eagles wide receiver? I think you thanked his hands.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, well you're not. You're not somebody who is.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
That's not really much. That's not really much, jam And uh,
you know, I feel like I did. I did have
good hands, but I worked at it.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
You know. It was thousands and thousands of.
Speaker 10 (32:37):
Hours of you know, catching catching balls consistently to try
to get them to where they were.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, but see, you didn't fall in line with the
diva wide receivers that.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I was just as big.
Speaker 10 (32:51):
I was just as big of a diva as everyone else.
But I never I never did it in public. You know,
I'd always keep it to myself or you know, if
I had a question about targets things that maketure I
would do it in a way where you know, it
wasn't showing up anybody or didn't put me in a
position where I would, you know, seem to be more
more worried about my own personal you know, ask and
(33:15):
accomplishments than it was for my team. And so you know,
I wanted it just as bad as anybody else did,
but I knew there was a way to do it,
in a way not to do it, in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Congrats, been fun watching and uh, you know this is uh,
this is your moment. You've earned it, first Balance Hall
of Famer. Good luck this weekend.
Speaker 10 (33:36):
Thank you, Thank you great seeing you out of Tahoe.
And congratulations to you and your family on your daughter's wedding.
And I hope you have an amazing time. Thank you,
Larry all Right, they have a great day.
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