September 1, 2026 • 39 mins
Dan sits down with Michigan head coach Kyle Whittingham prior to the Wolverines' season opener this weekend and Coach provides an inside perspective on his comments regarding Ohio State. CBS Sports NFL analyst Kyle Long also stopped by to chat about what it's like to block Aaron Donald as well as what he saw in the preseason. Lastly, newly minted Hall of Famer Luke Kuechly chatted with DP about his college recruitment as well as reflecting on his Super Bowl loss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The head coach at Michigan, Kyle Winningham, still sounds strange
to say that, Coach, after all those years at Utah.
Do you have any Utah gear left over?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
There's probably some back in Utah somewhere in my house
back there, but it would take me a minute to
locate it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, so how prepared are you for this moment?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, shoot, as prepared as we could possibly be. I mean,
we got... Three more days of practice. We certainly need
every one of them. But we've had a really good
fall camp, made a ton of progress, and eager to
play somebody else. We've been beating on ourselves for eight
months now, and so it's going to be good to
find out what we got on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
But the expectation level. Now, Utah wanted you to win.
Michigan wants you to win. Do you feel any different
with the expectations from the fans of what they're hoping for?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, I don't believe so. I mean, you know, in
both places you're hoping for conference championships and then whatever
you can accomplish beyond that. But, you know, I've said
it before, it doesn't matter what level you're coaching at,
high school, college, NFL. I mean, wherever you are, you're
all in. And if you're all in and you've given
it everything you got, then you have the same burning
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desire to win as anybody else.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Why did you feel the need to clarify your comments
about Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, I didn't feel the need to clarify. They were
asked about it. People ask about it, and I just
answer questions.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay. So from the first comments to the second, like
people want to hear you say you hate Ohio State, right?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I guess that's what they want.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I want to beat them as bad as anybody, probably worse.
How about this? I guess we could hate them all
one day a year.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, but, you know, I said, and I grew up
in Ohio, I said, give him a break. Like, you know,
you can know about this rivalry. It'd be like if
somebody went and said, oh, you're at Utah, you got
to hate BYU. And you just came there. You're like,
all right, let me live this first a little bit here.
So I don't know if there's a tutorial on how
to strongly dislike a team.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, to me, it's got to happen organically. And, you know,
it's tough to manufacture that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And so.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But just the competitive nature of the game. I mean,
it's the rivalry game in the, you know, the premier
rivalry game in the country. And it, you know, that's,
you know, everybody knows that. I'm fully aware of that.
And by no means was I trying to downplay the game.
And the game is huge. I mean, it's a huge
game year in and year out.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
All you got to do is win. You can hate them.
And if you don't beat them, nobody's going to give
you credit for it. Well, at least you hate them, coach.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Exactly. Good point.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah. Help me understand where you stood with NFL players
coming back to college. I know that, you know, all
the conferences are kind of in sync on this, but
did you ever think we'd get to a situation like
this where somebody leaves college, goes to the pros, puts
on a uniform or two, and then comes back?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Did not foresee that at all. And that's something that, but,
but any, you know, in this day and age, anything
that happens in college football shouldn't come as a surprise.
I mean, we're so all over the, we're so all
over the place with everything that, that I guess anything's possible. Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
How did we get here with just no, there's no
singular voice. There's no lifeguard on duty in the deep
end here, coach.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Right. Exactly. And that's, that's the problem. I mean, you
look at the NFL, which is in my opinion, the
best-run sports organization in the world, and you've got a
great structure and a commissioner that lays down the law.
And if you cross that line, you pay severe penalties.
And I think that's what we've got to get to
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in college football. We've got to get to some sort
of NFL minor league model. I've said that many, many times.
But why wouldn't you pattern yourself after the best to
ever do it?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Kyle Whittingham, Michigan, head football coach, beginning the season this Saturday,
Western Michigan. Next Saturday, you welcome in Oklahoma to Ann Arbor.
There was a story in the Salt Lake Tribune a
couple of days ago. Some former players accused you and
your staff of mishandling injuries. I want to give you
a chance to address this.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Never in my career have I ever tried to sway, influence,
whatever the word is, our medical staff, you know, wherever
I've been, we listen to the medical staff. If they
say a player's available, we go with that. And if
they say he's not available, we go with that. And
so I'm not sure where this came from or what the,
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you know, what the, you know, just how it ever materialized,
but never in my career have we ever crossed the
line of trying to override a medical decision by our
medical staff.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Could you have stayed at Utah if you wanted to?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I believe that's probably would have been in the cards.
I think, I think if it really pushed came to
shove and, you know, I had two years left on
my contract and, and, uh, but, uh, you know, I've
always been the type of guy don't wear out your welcome.
And I felt like that, that was starting to happen. And, and, uh,
you know, overstaying your, your welcome is something that, uh,
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I had made a, uh, you know, a conscious decision
not to do several years ago. And when I, You know,
and you just don't want to stay somewhere too long.
Maybe I did stay too long as I was.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
But I'm grateful for the situation I'm in now and
couldn't be happier with what's going on here in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Felt like mutual parting. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's probably on some people's part back there. Yeah, I'd say,
you know, depending who you talk to.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
How good, do you know how good your team can
be right now?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That's a good question. I don't know if anyone in
the country knows how good their team can be because even,
you know, you're playing against each other. And if you
struggle moving the ball, is it because you're lousy on
offense or is it because your defense is outstanding and
vice versa? And so you never really get a good
gauge completely until you line up and play somebody, but
you can certainly see talent and positions that really are,
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you know, special. And so I think you gotta, you
got somewhat of an idea, but you don't know for
sure until you line up and get a, get someone
to play against and get a barometer to measure yourself against.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
What's the coolest thing in your office?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Coolest thing in my office. A lot of pictures of
my grandkids are around here somewhere, but I thought, Oh,
somebody gave me this. Oh, I can't show it to you.
There's a really cool M that lights up. That's got
like lightning bolts throughout it. And, and really cool. It's,
it's pretty, you know, good size and you can change
the colors and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
So, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Anything mean you want to say?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Not as cool stuff as you got.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I do have some great stuff in here. I think
the one, do I have a Michigan helmet in here?
I got all kinds of helmets in here.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Do I?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We don't have one. I don't think I have one.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Let's get you one. We'll get you one.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh, no, no, no. No, no. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Coach, we just keep each other company.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
There you go, Dan.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
There you go. Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I don't have an Ohio State helmet in here.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
No, that's good news.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I'd like to hear that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I'd like to hear that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And I think this came from, who was the wide
receiver who played for the Giants?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Imani Toomer?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes. I think Imani Toomer gave me his helmet here, Coach.
That's a keeper. Yeah, it's autographed here somewhere.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That's the old school bike helmet.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And then you got the stickers here.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
We still have that tradition.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What do the, uh, stickers mean?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
If I, uh, all different things, you know, somehow the
area code of the player, uh, or he's from, uh,
big wins, uh, Big plays in games. I mean, it's
got all kinds of different things on those stickers.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
What if I go to class? Do I get a sticker?
Like little things like that? That used to matter back
in our day.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, it still matters.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
That matters to me anyways. Graduating players is number one
on the list and winning games is number two. And
that's how I've always functioned.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Do you want to say anything mean about Ryan Day
before we say goodbye? Say anything mean?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
We'll see him in the last game of the season.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Wow, that's bulletin board material right there.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Don't bait me.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Good to talk to you. Good luck this weekend.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Okay, Dan.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Thank you, Kyle. That's Kyle Whittingham.
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How would you have done against your dad? If you
had to block your dad in his prime? Oh boy.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I would have brought help. Um, That's the good thing
about playing an offensive line. I would have taken my licks, though.
He was pretty violent with his hands. You've got to
be aware of the get-off. You've got to be aware
of the one-two club rip inside, I would imagine, is
on the menu. And then that Reggie White patented hump
move is probably the main course.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
When did you, I guess, realize you could take your dad? Like,
if you're wrestling?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I'm still waiting, Dan.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Really?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I'm still waiting. You know, it's funny. there's that inverse
relationship of the ability to whip your dad's ass and
then your willingness or want to whip his ass. It's like,
as you get older, you could, but it's just like,
why would I do that? Look at, he's making, he's
making a blueberry shake for my, my grand, my daughter. Like,
you know, why would I want to get him now?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah. But I don't know. It's like you play one-on-one
with your dad playing basketball.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I think he was aware probably when I was 16, um,
that I could do some things physically that might've put
him in jeopardy at the time. No, I don't know.
I couldn't do the math on how old he was,
but you know, probably around 16, 17 is when I
started to realize and my older brother, Chris started to
keep his distance. Probably.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'll bet the fights though. I mean, your mom had
to go, I got to replace that end table or
that chair, that couch.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yes, she was dealing with riot control, crowd control, far
before it became in vogue in American society.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
All right, let me give you the full introduction. First
round pick, 20th overall pick by the Bears, joining us
on behalf of GenerationFine.com. We'll talk about that because I
love what you're doing with this. At this point in
the preseason, do you know what kind of team you
had going into week one when you were playing?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I think that the good things about your roster are
always you have a higher expectation for, and the bad
things you say, this is going to be our Achilles,
it's going to kill us. And then you end up
somewhere in the middle. I mean, it always ends up
being a one score game, Dan. It always, it's like,
can you get the third and one conversion? That's really
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what it comes down to. And I think You know,
if I look at the Bears, for example, people are
really keen on the Bears offense. And Ben Johnson says
he's going to set an NFL record for points per game.
And that's all well and good. But he knows that
has to be the case because they've got injuries on
the back end. They've got question marks up front. They've
got guys getting paid a lot of money that haven't
produced the way that they expect. And Bears fans are
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hoping that this thing lands somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, and trying to handicap the NFC North. Now, I
know Green Bay's got some issues. Certainly, Josh Jacobs out.
Michael Parsons not back for a little while there. The Vikings'
defense is going to keep them in games, it feels like.
And then you've got the Lions that we kind of
forgot about. So if you were going to go one
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through four.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
If I were to go one through four, I would
say the two teams holding hands at the top of
the totem poles, the Packers and the Bears. And I
think the Lions are right there with a hand on
one of their ankles. And who the hell knows who
the Vikings are going to be? To your point, that
defense can carry a football team. Kevin O'Connell is a
brilliant coach. And if Kyler Murray can be Kyler Murray,
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there's a lot of people who are going to be
in trouble. There's a lot of people in Vegas who
are either going to look like brilliant In fact, I
think that if Kyler Murray can figure out how to
press the circle button, which is Justin Jefferson on his
Xbox controller, he's going to find great success in that division.
And it's going to be close games. And who can
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guard who in a two-minute? Really, that's who it comes
down to.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I've asked former offensive linemen, even current ones, blocking for
a scrambler, blocking for a passing quarterback. what would you
have preferred? Well, it really does depend.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
So if I got a guy like, let's say, I'm
blocking for Patrick Mahomes, you understand what the play is
drawn up to be, and you understand where the launch
point is, where he's going to throw it from, and
what the action is leading up to it, what we're
trying to influence the defense to do. What you can
account for is the great things that are going to
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happen after that three-second timer goes off when Patrick Mahomes
goes Picasso on the defense. There are luxuries to having
guys like that because they can get out of harm's
way on their own. Now, the ask becomes greater for
an offensive lineman because your clock goes from four seconds
to maybe eight seconds if you're running around there behind
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the line of scrimmage. You get a guy who's a
pocket passer, your job becomes very easy. If I blocked
for Matt Ryan, easy in terms of predictability, Dan. None
of it's easy, but the ball's out. The ball is out.
Go watch the mic'd ups of these defensive linemen rushing
against these statuesque pocket passers where the ball is out.
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They are frustrated beyond belief because there is no move
that they can do that wins.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
How would you test Aaron Donald now coming back after
a couple of years?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Well, I would lean heavily on double teaming in the
run game and, and reminding him of what kind of
game he's stepping back into. Uh, And I'm not saying
in any way that Aaron is not going to come
back and dominate. But if I'm an OC, I'm going
to put four hands on him, two helmets and a
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couple of thigh boards. And we're going to run the
football with that game plan. And then when we have
to throw the football, you continue to give him that action.
You do not let him take the fight to the
offensive line. He is as dominant in a passing situation
as there's ever been.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
What did it feel like trying to block him?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Well, luckily in the one year that we played the Rams,
I played tackle. It felt like blocking a fire hydrant,
quite honestly. So I was coming down on the double team,
trying to find a spot in his hip area while
my guard was praying and trying to get hands on him.
And this was young Aaron Donald. And I do remember
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he gave us fits. And this was before he was A.D. 99.
But I knew I had inside intel from that Rams
locker room, my brother, that they had drafted a future
Hall of Famer. Like his first week in camp, Chris
was like, this guy is unbelievable. So when I was
playing him. He was finding his way through the cracks.
He was unbelievable at finding... He was like water. He
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could get in between anything. And he would look at
you after the play. He looked at me one time
and he said, every time you look down at me pre-snap,
I know it's a double team. And I was like,
you're not supposed to help me, bro. You're 20 years
old and you're 5'11. Go back to the little that
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
How did he fall where he fell to?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I think for whatever reason... We were at the end
of the stage of the phase where size mattered, right?
Like you have to fit a certain archetype. And Aaron
Donald is an outlier, but it also opens the door
for plenty of guys who are 5'11, 250, to go
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terrorize guards on third down. It's like the pitcher who
threw Aroldis Chapman. There was a place for him. He
would come in and he would throw 103 and guys
wouldn't know what.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
To do with it.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
It's the same impact that one of these rush tackles
can have on a guard. And I think about a
guy like Willie Lampkin, who was a center out of
the University of North Carolina. He's 5'10, DP, 5'10, 290 pounds, but.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
He is all....
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Ass kick and grit okay and he's on the eagles
roster and he has been choking these giants out all
summer long that he's a prime example of like you
let a guy like that in the club now you
got to let all the five foot eleven gangsters in the.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Club okay uh do you miss hitting people um I.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Miss high-fiving my teammates. You know, like I just miss
being around the guys. This version of me does not
hit it like miss hitting people. I loved it when
I was that age because I was good at it.
But now the things that I miss is, you know,
sitting next to Matt Forte and eating pancakes and getting
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laughed at for 10 minutes and Going to the training
room and, you know, John Fox coming in and telling
us a ridiculous story about his boating adventure that weekend or,
you know, hanging out with the equipment guys and just
hearing about the debauchery that happens in a 19-year-old's life
in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Tell me what you're doing with Generation Fine. Generation Fine. Okay,
so this is a fantastic thing. And like Size Matters
going out the window, I think Mental Health Mattering is
coming into the house now because– Fine doesn't have to
be a finish line. So many times you get asked
how you're doing.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You say, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I'm fine.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
But fine is not the finish line. We can be
way better than that. And there's ways to get there. OK,
there's tools, resources, information. You can visit visit generation dash
fine dot com and you can find out why I'm
partner with Johnson and Johnson and why this is so
important to me, because for so long I thought that.
the things that I was feeling and for a lack
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of a better term, depression at times would creep into
my life as an athlete, as a man, as a father,
as a husband. Um, and I didn't know what to
do with the way that I was feeling. Um, there
are resources, tools, you're not alone. There's so many more
guys that, you know, that are dealing with something silently.
I call it the silent battle. Um, and you know,
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we're here, we're waiting. It's like, you know, It's like
that angel in the movies, you know, where you see
him in a couple scenes and you're like, I've seen
that person.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And then they show up at the end. They save
the day.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
What's like if you just stop and talk to that
person when you saw him the first time and that
person is that conversation about mental health and there's more.
people there to share your experience and their experience with you.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Why do players, did players feel the need to hide this?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Well, I think I have a unique. perspective on this
growing up in a football house and a football, a
gladiatorial football house, you know, one that was football proper.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Like six weeks training camp, two a day is full
pad type shit. Excuse my language. And I understood that
what you show is what they know and what they
know could get you killed. And I'm, I'm in the
camp now of, Why not work on your mental health
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like you work on your front squat, like you work
on your hamstring stretches, like you work on your cardio?
It can be a weapon for you in the best
way possible. It's a light inside of you, and you
can make it brighter if you work on it, if
you recognize what you're going through.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, I went through a dark period. I had an
autoimmune that was affecting me and I didn't want to
get out of bed. And my wife said, why don't
you share this on your show? Because if you share it,
then maybe a light goes on with somebody. He's willing
to talk about that. And it was painful to reveal that,
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that you go into that shell where you just don't
want to do anything. And so, I mean, it took
a long time for me to get through it, but
I can certainly empathize with NFL players. You're in your
30s or 40s. And we've seen what happens with not
only depression, but everything else with CTE. And I mean,
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there's a whole melting pot here of stuff that you
don't even know what's on the horizon. So I do
appreciate you sharing this because I do think it's really
important that we do talk about this instead of, because
you know what? When I was growing up, Kyle, it was, oh,
he's got mental illness. Like if you had depression, there
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was something mentally wrong with you. therefore you never said
anything to anybody. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
And it's really brave of you. And I appreciate you
speaking up on that. And is this not just the
damnedest thing? What a microcosm of what generation fine is
all about. It's like reach out, dude. There's a network
of people that are, you know, whatever words you want
to put in there. Um, and yeah, I really relate
with your couldn't get out of bed. And I've been
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there before when I dealt with injury and when I
dealt with, um, the stress and rigors of playing the
national football league, there have been moments where I have
been literally stuck in place and I need somebody to
come physically remove me. And, uh, I know there's others
out there and dude, if that's you listening on the
other end and you feel in any way like, uh,
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like making your life better, take a visit to generation-fine.com.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Uh, good luck this season with, uh, the football with CBS, big,
big promotion there, moving up the ladder.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, having fun. We got him fooled another year, Dan.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
My best to your father. And thanks again, Kyle.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah, thanks a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
See you guys soon.
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Speaker 2 (23:13):
I like the clash. I'm just, I thought the Ramones
were kind of a novelty band.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Doesn't make me a bad guy because I don't, You know,
like punk rock. The Beatles created punk rock with Helter Skelter.
Go back and listen to that. Tell me about punk rock, knucklehead.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I'll give The Clash more credit in the punk rock
department than The Beatles.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The Beatles helped create it. Go back and listen to
Helter Skelter. Sure. I understand what you're saying. And they
did that in the 60s. Oh, my God. What, Marvin? Sorry, D.P.
Chad GPT said in 2009, U2 reinforced their status as
the biggest rock band in the world through their launch
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of their massive U2 360 tour. Thank you. Was that
before or after they downloaded that terrible album? Hall of Famer,
Netflix lead game analyst. I don't know if you want
any part of this. We're fired up here, Luke. I'm
ready to play a game. You know, getting kind of
feisty in here. Do you miss hitting people?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I miss being in a locker room. I don't miss
hitting people. I think being on the game, on the
field in four games the past couple of years, you
see guys run by and you decide you don't want
anything to do with those guys, the running backs, the
offensive linemen. Even the receivers feel like they've gotten bigger
and bigger.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I tell people if you want to see a football game,
if you can watch it from the sidelines, you'll have
a whole different appreciation for what that game sounds like
and how fast it is. I don't know if you
had that feeling, you're welcome to the NFL moment. What
was that like?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Well, you know what's interesting? You talk about watching it
from the field. You don't ever listen to the game
or hear the game or feel the game when you're playing.
But during 2020, that was my first year when I
was done playing. I worked with the Panthers in the
front offices, and I was on the field playing. for
some of those games and there was no one in
the stands to start the year. So you could hear everything,
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every hit, every sound, every time a guy puts his
foot in the ground and makes a cut and you
start to realize like, how did I, how did I
play out here during this game for that long? Because
guys are, it's, it's fast, it's physical. Um, and, uh,
I'm glad that, that I was on the sideline at
that point.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Do you have that welcome to the NFL moment?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, it was Michael Robinson. So my rookie year, we
played Seattle at home. It was my first game playing
at inside backer. And Russell Wilson escapes from the pocket.
I'm in zone coverage. I drop. He starts running towards
the line of scrimmage. And I feel like I have
a clean shot on him. I've got a great angle.
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I'm running right at him. I think I'm going to
make a big hit. And at the last second, he
cuts me. to my left, I turned my head and
Mike Robinson, number 26 is running full speed at me.
And Russ, Russ had kind of set me up. I
didn't see Mike Robinson and he smacked me. And the
first thing I remember is being on the ground. And
I remember looking up at him and he had a
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big smile on his face. And it was, it was
early on. That was probably, I think that was probably
week three or week four. And you realize the game
happens a lot faster than it used to in college.
And When I see Mike to this day, there's still
that little smirk that he's got on his face because
he knows that he got me pretty daggone good.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
If you didn't go to BC, where were you going?
You know what?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Stanford, Duke, and Virginia were the schools, in addition to
Boston College, that I looked really hard at. Stanford was probably...
You know, right up there, that was Harbaugh and Andrew
Luck and that whole crew. And then Coach Cutcliffe at Duke.
I really liked him. He was a great man, a
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great football coach. But BC was always home for me.
But I think Stanford with Harbaugh and Duke with Cutcliffe
were two places that would have been good options for me.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
But growing up, you know, in Cincinnati, Ohio State recruit you?
Not really.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You know, when I was being recruited, I was– I
was small. I was skinny. I wasn't very big. And
quite frankly, if I was recruiting people out of Cincinnati,
I probably wouldn't have recruited me if I was Ohio
State either.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Really?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
No, I was a little, I was a 200 pound
linebacker that was taking biology class and chemistry.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Class, carried a lunchbox around.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
So I don't really blame anybody for not recruiting me.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Wait, you had a lunchbox?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Every day.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Was it a themed lunchbox?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I was fortunate that when I went to school, I
have two brothers and my mom would wake up and
make breakfast and make lunch lunches for us every day.
And it was a very well-balanced lunchbox.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
She did a great job.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
So, yes, I don't know if the lunchbox itself was themed,
but what was inside of it was very much themed.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
All right. So Luke and Netflix game day kicks off
with the game down under in Melbourne. It'll be shouldn't
you be leaving for Australia now?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, we're leaving. We leave we leave us on Sunday.
So I've been trying to wrap my head around it.
We leave on a Sunday and I think we get
there on a Tuesday because they're they're ahead of us.
Plus the time change in the flight. It took me
a second to kind of wrap my head around. how
all that works. But yeah, we're leaving soon. We leave
on Sunday of this week.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay. So that'll be coverage starting at 6.30 Eastern kickoff
at 8.30 Eastern next week. Are you expecting Aaron Donald
to be in Australia?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
That would certainly make it more exciting. Honestly, I think
it would be really cool if he played. I think
what I think about with this whole thing is, you know,
running's great, agility's great. You watch all the videos of
him and him training. He looks phenomenal. I think the
one question that I would ask myself is, what happens
when people start leaning on you? I think that's probably
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the biggest thing. If I were to go back and
play after not playing for two years, how were you
able to brace for impact? How are you able to
mimic contact to the speed at which it's going to
happen in the game? So I think for the game
sake I would love for him to play I think
it adds a tremendous amount of storylines and him and
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Miles Garrett and how the rest of the define defense
line benefits from him being in the game but I
think if you're the Rams you got to figure out
what's the best long-term approach for having him part of
that team you know when they make a push in December.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
January How does Aaron Donald impact the linebackers on the
Rams with him back?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Good luck getting up to him. I think if you're
Nate Landman and that crew right there, you're running clean
to the football. Let's be honest, it's Aaron Donald, it's
Miles Garrett, Kobe Turner, and then the one guy that's
going to benefit the most from this is Byron Young.
You've got to block those big, and Braden Fisk, you've
got to block those big guys up front before you
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get to the second level. So if you're those Rams linebackers,
you're just sitting there smiling, knowing that, Hey, they got
to block these monsters before they get up to us.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You sack Stafford before?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I didn't even get near him. Nope. Not anywhere close
to him. My, my pass rushing skills are very, were
very minimal.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
How many sacks did you have in your career?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Man, I think I, I think I had 12 and
two or three or four of them were clean to
the football. So, That requires zero pass rush ability. I do.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Who did you get that you go, I can tell
my grandkids?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Man, well, in the Super Bowl, Sean McDermott called a
great blitz, and I got Peyton Manning. And that required, again,
zero skill. The biggest thing you have to do is
you make sure you get him on the ground. I
was clean right up the middle to Peyton Manning, and
the hardest thing is to not miss him. So that'd
be my... My most memorable Quebec sack.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You know, we look at those teams that lose the
Super Bowl and we used to label like you were
a disappointment, like the Buffalo Bills went to four consecutive
Super Bowls. I said, why are we celebrating that you
got to the Super Bowl? I know you guys got embarrassed,
but what's it like in that game that everybody's watching
you and everybody's going to have some kind of opinion
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about you or your team after something like that?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I think everybody's going to have an opinion regardless if win, lose, draw,
how the season went. But I don't think that that season,
when you look back on it and you get perspective
and the further away that team gets from that game,
I think we realize how special that year was, how
fun the OTAs were, the off-season training camp, the journey
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through that season into the playoffs, two playoff games at home,
the energy that in the, in the city, in the
Carolinas and have the opportunity to play in a super bowl,
I think was, was super special. Obviously you want to
win that game and, um, that's the ultimate goal playing football,
but I think the memories and the opportunities we had
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that season and the players that we put on that team,
that the front office did a great job is what
made that season special. I don't think it's defined by
one game or, you know, the disappointment of not winning
the Super Bowl. I think for us, it was more
how special that team was, how fun that team was,
how special that group was together. And I think when
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you look back on it, that's the positive that really
came from it.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You think Cam Newton will be a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I think he should be just, and I get to
see it on a daily basis, but I don't think
for that stretch there that Cam had, I don't think
there was a more dominant player when you walked out
on the field in camp. And I think, you know,
his ability to affect the game throwing and obviously running
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the ball, short yardage goal line in walking out for
coin tosses for teams that we didn't play a whole
lot and watching those guys walk out and look at cam.
It's like, it's like they had no idea he was
that big. And it looked like he got 10 times
bigger when he, when he was in his uniform because
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he had the rib pads and the shin pads and
the hair and the wristbands. And he just got bigger
and bigger as game day approached.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Because that following year, didn't you open up with Denver
in Denver?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And I remember the Broncos beat the hell out of
Cam in that game. They were lining him up and
pounding him. And I just kept remembering it. being on
the field and seeing how big he was and realizing
what these defensive players were doing to him. That is, they,
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they pounded him that night and, uh, you know, kept
getting back up, but you know, after a while, those
hits take their toll.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah. He's, he's, we always joked that he was made
of concrete, that, that you, he was like a pillar
out there. You just hit him and hit him and
he just keeps, he keeps getting back up. But I
think it's a testament to, number one, his toughness, and
number two, his competitive drive and who he is as
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a person. And a lot of stuff that Cam did,
we kind of– it's just Cam being Cam. And then
when you think about it, you start to realize how
special what he did for that team was.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Calling a game now. It's one thing to watch when
you're at home with your buddies– But, you know, you're
going to be there with Noah Eagle. You got to
get in and get out. Get in, get out. Like,
do you have a finite amount of time that you go,
I got 15 seconds here or I got 12 seconds here?
How do you work mentally of being an analyst?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Well, I think you start to just understand that, hey,
I have a job and I have a team. Noah
is your teammate. And you start to realize that I
have to. do my job in a way that allows
Noah to do his job. So I think quick in
and out, concise, get your point across, make it digestible
and understandable, and then, and then get out and allow
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Noah to do his job as well. He's, he's phenomenal.
He's so easy to work with. He sets you up great.
And then it's my job, like you said, to get in,
get my point across, get my point articulated, and then
allow Noah to set the play up and do what
he does best as well. So I think that's what
makes it fun is the teamwork. aspect of that.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Booth okay but is this any different than what you
did defensively where get in get out of the huddle
or make your call then there's the play now regroup
get in get out get ready for the next play.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I think to a sense to in a sense yes
um the uh the procedure i think is a little
bit different because in the game i think you're digesting
i get a play call in my ear And then
I've got to relay it to the guys in the field.
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And then I, like you said, I got to break
the huddle and turn around and digest what's going on.
So you're kind of thinking all the way up to
the snap as far as, as a player versus I
think in the booth, you're, it's more of reactionary. And then, Hey,
based on what happened on the field, what can I
give the viewers to help educate them, give them further
(37:06):
context versus while you're playing, it's like, all right, Hey,
What do I like out of our menu on third
and sixth? What did I watch during practice and during
tape that allows me to have success? Maybe what do
I need to tell the guy next to me? Maybe
Thomas is telling me something different. So I think it's
more of a living organism while you're playing because there's
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10 other guys that you're working with versus in the booth.
I think it's, you know, it's one of my first
times doing it. So I'm still trying to figure it
out a little bit as well, but it's more of a,
what I saw, let me give somebody something quick that
they can chew on, get in and get out, and
then let Noah do his job as well.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah. Wait till like three years, two years, and you
listen back to this and then you'll go, oh my gosh,
because we all do it. I went back to my,
like my early sports center days. I'm going, oh my God,
so bad. But you know, it's part of the evolution,
the progress, the process of it. So, and you got
a great person to set you up. The key is
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with play by play, they can make or break you.
And you got Noah who learned from his dad, he's
going to put you in a position to succeed. And
you know, that, that'll help you, uh, instead of you
scrambling to go, I, I got nine seconds here. I
can't say anything. Uh, Noah will be very good at
being brief with his comments to give you, you know,
(38:30):
that room for opportunity. And, So it'll be fun for you.
At least I hope it will be. And don't read
social media, okay? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Stay off.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I told JJ Watt that. I said, dude, don't be on.
He goes, no, why not?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
I go, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
He goes, I can take it. I said, all right, well,
you're tougher than I can. I don't want to know
what social media is going to say. They're never happy
about anything, Luke.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Yeah, I think, you know, you kind of learn it
as a player. You can always find whatever you want
on social media.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
If you think you're the greatest thing, you can find
somebody that says you're the greatest thing. If you want
to find somebody that says you stink, if you look
hard enough, you can find that too. If so, it's
one of those things, whatever you want social media to say,
you can find it and filter it and figure it out. So,
like you said, I think I'm lucky to have Noah
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in there because he's so good and he has fun.
He's got a great personality and he's quick. and I'm
certainly looking forward to it. I think it's going to
be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Good to talk to you. Again, congratulations on the Hall
of Fame, Luke.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Thank you. Appreciate it. All right.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Luke Keekly, Hall of Famer.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The head coach at Michigan, Kyle Winningham, still sounds strange
to say that, Coach, after all those years at Utah.
Do you have any Utah gear left over?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
There's probably some back in Utah somewhere in my house
back there, but it would take me a minute to
locate it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, so how prepared are you for this moment?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, shoot, as prepared as we could possibly be. I mean,
we got... Three more days of practice. We certainly need
every one of them. But we've had a really good
fall camp, made a ton of progress, and eager to
play somebody else. We've been beating on ourselves for eight
months now, and so it's going to be good to
find out what we got on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
But the expectation level. Now, Utah wanted you to win.
Michigan wants you to win. Do you feel any different
with the expectations from the fans of what they're hoping for?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, I don't believe so. I mean, you know, in
both places you're hoping for conference championships and then whatever
you can accomplish beyond that. But, you know, I've said
it before, it doesn't matter what level you're coaching at,
high school, college, NFL. I mean, wherever you are, you're
all in. And if you're all in and you've given
it everything you got, then you have the same burning
(01:19):
desire to win as anybody else.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Why did you feel the need to clarify your comments
about Ohio State?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, I didn't feel the need to clarify. They were
asked about it. People ask about it, and I just
answer questions.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay. So from the first comments to the second, like
people want to hear you say you hate Ohio State, right?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I guess that's what they want.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I want to beat them as bad as anybody, probably worse.
How about this? I guess we could hate them all
one day a year.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, but, you know, I said, and I grew up
in Ohio, I said, give him a break. Like, you know,
you can know about this rivalry. It'd be like if
somebody went and said, oh, you're at Utah, you got
to hate BYU. And you just came there. You're like,
all right, let me live this first a little bit here.
So I don't know if there's a tutorial on how
to strongly dislike a team.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, to me, it's got to happen organically. And, you know,
it's tough to manufacture that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And so.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But just the competitive nature of the game. I mean,
it's the rivalry game in the, you know, the premier
rivalry game in the country. And it, you know, that's,
you know, everybody knows that. I'm fully aware of that.
And by no means was I trying to downplay the game.
And the game is huge. I mean, it's a huge
game year in and year out.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
All you got to do is win. You can hate them.
And if you don't beat them, nobody's going to give
you credit for it. Well, at least you hate them, coach.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Exactly. Good point.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah. Help me understand where you stood with NFL players
coming back to college. I know that, you know, all
the conferences are kind of in sync on this, but
did you ever think we'd get to a situation like
this where somebody leaves college, goes to the pros, puts
on a uniform or two, and then comes back?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Did not foresee that at all. And that's something that, but,
but any, you know, in this day and age, anything
that happens in college football shouldn't come as a surprise.
I mean, we're so all over the, we're so all
over the place with everything that, that I guess anything's possible. Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
How did we get here with just no, there's no
singular voice. There's no lifeguard on duty in the deep
end here, coach.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Right. Exactly. And that's, that's the problem. I mean, you
look at the NFL, which is in my opinion, the
best-run sports organization in the world, and you've got a
great structure and a commissioner that lays down the law.
And if you cross that line, you pay severe penalties.
And I think that's what we've got to get to
(03:58):
in college football. We've got to get to some sort
of NFL minor league model. I've said that many, many times.
But why wouldn't you pattern yourself after the best to
ever do it?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Kyle Whittingham, Michigan, head football coach, beginning the season this Saturday,
Western Michigan. Next Saturday, you welcome in Oklahoma to Ann Arbor.
There was a story in the Salt Lake Tribune a
couple of days ago. Some former players accused you and
your staff of mishandling injuries. I want to give you
a chance to address this.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Never in my career have I ever tried to sway, influence,
whatever the word is, our medical staff, you know, wherever
I've been, we listen to the medical staff. If they
say a player's available, we go with that. And if
they say he's not available, we go with that. And
so I'm not sure where this came from or what the,
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you know, what the, you know, just how it ever materialized,
but never in my career have we ever crossed the
line of trying to override a medical decision by our
medical staff.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Could you have stayed at Utah if you wanted to?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I believe that's probably would have been in the cards.
I think, I think if it really pushed came to
shove and, you know, I had two years left on
my contract and, and, uh, but, uh, you know, I've
always been the type of guy don't wear out your welcome.
And I felt like that, that was starting to happen. And, and, uh,
you know, overstaying your, your welcome is something that, uh,
(05:28):
I had made a, uh, you know, a conscious decision
not to do several years ago. And when I, You know,
and you just don't want to stay somewhere too long.
Maybe I did stay too long as I was.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
But I'm grateful for the situation I'm in now and
couldn't be happier with what's going on here in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Felt like mutual parting. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's probably on some people's part back there. Yeah, I'd say,
you know, depending who you talk to.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
How good, do you know how good your team can
be right now?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
That's a good question. I don't know if anyone in
the country knows how good their team can be because even,
you know, you're playing against each other. And if you
struggle moving the ball, is it because you're lousy on
offense or is it because your defense is outstanding and
vice versa? And so you never really get a good
gauge completely until you line up and play somebody, but
you can certainly see talent and positions that really are,
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you know, special. And so I think you gotta, you
got somewhat of an idea, but you don't know for
sure until you line up and get a, get someone
to play against and get a barometer to measure yourself against.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
What's the coolest thing in your office?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Coolest thing in my office. A lot of pictures of
my grandkids are around here somewhere, but I thought, Oh,
somebody gave me this. Oh, I can't show it to you.
There's a really cool M that lights up. That's got
like lightning bolts throughout it. And, and really cool. It's,
it's pretty, you know, good size and you can change
the colors and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
So, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Anything mean you want to say?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Not as cool stuff as you got.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I do have some great stuff in here. I think
the one, do I have a Michigan helmet in here?
I got all kinds of helmets in here.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Do I?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We don't have one. I don't think I have one.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Let's get you one. We'll get you one.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh, no, no, no. No, no. Hold on. Hold on.
Hold on.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Coach, we just keep each other company.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
There you go, Dan.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
There you go. Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I don't have an Ohio State helmet in here.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
No, that's good news.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I'd like to hear that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
I'd like to hear that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And I think this came from, who was the wide
receiver who played for the Giants?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Imani Toomer?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yes. I think Imani Toomer gave me his helmet here, Coach.
That's a keeper. Yeah, it's autographed here somewhere.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
That's the old school bike helmet.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And then you got the stickers here.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
We still have that tradition.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What do the, uh, stickers mean?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
If I, uh, all different things, you know, somehow the
area code of the player, uh, or he's from, uh,
big wins, uh, Big plays in games. I mean, it's
got all kinds of different things on those stickers.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
What if I go to class? Do I get a sticker?
Like little things like that? That used to matter back
in our day.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, it still matters.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
That matters to me anyways. Graduating players is number one
on the list and winning games is number two. And
that's how I've always functioned.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Do you want to say anything mean about Ryan Day
before we say goodbye? Say anything mean?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
We'll see him in the last game of the season.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Wow, that's bulletin board material right there.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Don't bait me.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Good to talk to you. Good luck this weekend.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Okay, Dan.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Thank you, Kyle. That's Kyle Whittingham.
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Studio analyst, big tough guy here. Good to see you again.
How would you have done against your dad? If you
had to block your dad in his prime? Oh boy.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I would have brought help. Um, That's the good thing
about playing an offensive line. I would have taken my licks, though.
He was pretty violent with his hands. You've got to
be aware of the get-off. You've got to be aware
of the one-two club rip inside, I would imagine, is
on the menu. And then that Reggie White patented hump
move is probably the main course.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
When did you, I guess, realize you could take your dad? Like,
if you're wrestling?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I'm still waiting, Dan.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Really?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I'm still waiting. You know, it's funny. there's that inverse
relationship of the ability to whip your dad's ass and
then your willingness or want to whip his ass. It's like,
as you get older, you could, but it's just like,
why would I do that? Look at, he's making, he's
making a blueberry shake for my, my grand, my daughter. Like,
you know, why would I want to get him now?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah. But I don't know. It's like you play one-on-one
with your dad playing basketball.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I think he was aware probably when I was 16, um,
that I could do some things physically that might've put
him in jeopardy at the time. No, I don't know.
I couldn't do the math on how old he was,
but you know, probably around 16, 17 is when I
started to realize and my older brother, Chris started to
keep his distance. Probably.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'll bet the fights though. I mean, your mom had
to go, I got to replace that end table or
that chair, that couch.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yes, she was dealing with riot control, crowd control, far
before it became in vogue in American society.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
All right, let me give you the full introduction. First
round pick, 20th overall pick by the Bears, joining us
on behalf of GenerationFine.com. We'll talk about that because I
love what you're doing with this. At this point in
the preseason, do you know what kind of team you
had going into week one when you were playing?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I think that the good things about your roster are
always you have a higher expectation for, and the bad
things you say, this is going to be our Achilles,
it's going to kill us. And then you end up
somewhere in the middle. I mean, it always ends up
being a one score game, Dan. It always, it's like,
can you get the third and one conversion? That's really
(11:55):
what it comes down to. And I think You know,
if I look at the Bears, for example, people are
really keen on the Bears offense. And Ben Johnson says
he's going to set an NFL record for points per game.
And that's all well and good. But he knows that
has to be the case because they've got injuries on
the back end. They've got question marks up front. They've
got guys getting paid a lot of money that haven't
produced the way that they expect. And Bears fans are
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hoping that this thing lands somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, and trying to handicap the NFC North. Now, I
know Green Bay's got some issues. Certainly, Josh Jacobs out.
Michael Parsons not back for a little while there. The Vikings'
defense is going to keep them in games, it feels like.
And then you've got the Lions that we kind of
forgot about. So if you were going to go one
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through four.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
If I were to go one through four, I would
say the two teams holding hands at the top of
the totem poles, the Packers and the Bears. And I
think the Lions are right there with a hand on
one of their ankles. And who the hell knows who
the Vikings are going to be? To your point, that
defense can carry a football team. Kevin O'Connell is a
brilliant coach. And if Kyler Murray can be Kyler Murray,
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there's a lot of people who are going to be
in trouble. There's a lot of people in Vegas who
are either going to look like brilliant In fact, I
think that if Kyler Murray can figure out how to
press the circle button, which is Justin Jefferson on his
Xbox controller, he's going to find great success in that division.
And it's going to be close games. And who can
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guard who in a two-minute? Really, that's who it comes
down to.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I've asked former offensive linemen, even current ones, blocking for
a scrambler, blocking for a passing quarterback. what would you
have preferred? Well, it really does depend.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
So if I got a guy like, let's say, I'm
blocking for Patrick Mahomes, you understand what the play is
drawn up to be, and you understand where the launch
point is, where he's going to throw it from, and
what the action is leading up to it, what we're
trying to influence the defense to do. What you can
account for is the great things that are going to
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happen after that three-second timer goes off when Patrick Mahomes
goes Picasso on the defense. There are luxuries to having
guys like that because they can get out of harm's
way on their own. Now, the ask becomes greater for
an offensive lineman because your clock goes from four seconds
to maybe eight seconds if you're running around there behind
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the line of scrimmage. You get a guy who's a
pocket passer, your job becomes very easy. If I blocked
for Matt Ryan, easy in terms of predictability, Dan. None
of it's easy, but the ball's out. The ball is out.
Go watch the mic'd ups of these defensive linemen rushing
against these statuesque pocket passers where the ball is out.
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They are frustrated beyond belief because there is no move
that they can do that wins.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
How would you test Aaron Donald now coming back after
a couple of years?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Well, I would lean heavily on double teaming in the
run game and, and reminding him of what kind of
game he's stepping back into. Uh, And I'm not saying
in any way that Aaron is not going to come
back and dominate. But if I'm an OC, I'm going
to put four hands on him, two helmets and a
(15:17):
couple of thigh boards. And we're going to run the
football with that game plan. And then when we have
to throw the football, you continue to give him that action.
You do not let him take the fight to the
offensive line. He is as dominant in a passing situation
as there's ever been.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
What did it feel like trying to block him?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Well, luckily in the one year that we played the Rams,
I played tackle. It felt like blocking a fire hydrant,
quite honestly. So I was coming down on the double team,
trying to find a spot in his hip area while
my guard was praying and trying to get hands on him.
And this was young Aaron Donald. And I do remember
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he gave us fits. And this was before he was A.D. 99.
But I knew I had inside intel from that Rams
locker room, my brother, that they had drafted a future
Hall of Famer. Like his first week in camp, Chris
was like, this guy is unbelievable. So when I was
playing him. He was finding his way through the cracks.
He was unbelievable at finding... He was like water. He
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could get in between anything. And he would look at
you after the play. He looked at me one time
and he said, every time you look down at me pre-snap,
I know it's a double team. And I was like,
you're not supposed to help me, bro. You're 20 years
old and you're 5'11. Go back to the little that
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
How did he fall where he fell to?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I think for whatever reason... We were at the end
of the stage of the phase where size mattered, right?
Like you have to fit a certain archetype. And Aaron
Donald is an outlier, but it also opens the door
for plenty of guys who are 5'11, 250, to go
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terrorize guards on third down. It's like the pitcher who
threw Aroldis Chapman. There was a place for him. He
would come in and he would throw 103 and guys
wouldn't know what.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
To do with it.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
It's the same impact that one of these rush tackles
can have on a guard. And I think about a
guy like Willie Lampkin, who was a center out of
the University of North Carolina. He's 5'10, DP, 5'10, 290 pounds, but.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
He is all....
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Ass kick and grit okay and he's on the eagles
roster and he has been choking these giants out all
summer long that he's a prime example of like you
let a guy like that in the club now you
got to let all the five foot eleven gangsters in the.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Club okay uh do you miss hitting people um I.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Miss high-fiving my teammates. You know, like I just miss
being around the guys. This version of me does not
hit it like miss hitting people. I loved it when
I was that age because I was good at it.
But now the things that I miss is, you know,
sitting next to Matt Forte and eating pancakes and getting
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laughed at for 10 minutes and Going to the training
room and, you know, John Fox coming in and telling
us a ridiculous story about his boating adventure that weekend or,
you know, hanging out with the equipment guys and just
hearing about the debauchery that happens in a 19-year-old's life
in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Tell me what you're doing with Generation Fine. Generation Fine. Okay,
so this is a fantastic thing. And like Size Matters
going out the window, I think Mental Health Mattering is
coming into the house now because– Fine doesn't have to
be a finish line. So many times you get asked
how you're doing.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You say, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I'm fine.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
But fine is not the finish line. We can be
way better than that. And there's ways to get there. OK,
there's tools, resources, information. You can visit visit generation dash
fine dot com and you can find out why I'm
partner with Johnson and Johnson and why this is so
important to me, because for so long I thought that.
the things that I was feeling and for a lack
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of a better term, depression at times would creep into
my life as an athlete, as a man, as a father,
as a husband. Um, and I didn't know what to
do with the way that I was feeling. Um, there
are resources, tools, you're not alone. There's so many more
guys that, you know, that are dealing with something silently.
I call it the silent battle. Um, and you know,
(19:33):
we're here, we're waiting. It's like, you know, It's like
that angel in the movies, you know, where you see
him in a couple scenes and you're like, I've seen
that person.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And then they show up at the end. They save
the day.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
What's like if you just stop and talk to that
person when you saw him the first time and that
person is that conversation about mental health and there's more.
people there to share your experience and their experience with you.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Why do players, did players feel the need to hide this?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Well, I think I have a unique. perspective on this
growing up in a football house and a football, a
gladiatorial football house, you know, one that was football proper.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Like six weeks training camp, two a day is full
pad type shit. Excuse my language. And I understood that
what you show is what they know and what they
know could get you killed. And I'm, I'm in the
camp now of, Why not work on your mental health
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like you work on your front squat, like you work
on your hamstring stretches, like you work on your cardio?
It can be a weapon for you in the best
way possible. It's a light inside of you, and you
can make it brighter if you work on it, if
you recognize what you're going through.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, I went through a dark period. I had an
autoimmune that was affecting me and I didn't want to
get out of bed. And my wife said, why don't
you share this on your show? Because if you share it,
then maybe a light goes on with somebody. He's willing
to talk about that. And it was painful to reveal that,
(21:08):
that you go into that shell where you just don't
want to do anything. And so, I mean, it took
a long time for me to get through it, but
I can certainly empathize with NFL players. You're in your
30s or 40s. And we've seen what happens with not
only depression, but everything else with CTE. And I mean,
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there's a whole melting pot here of stuff that you
don't even know what's on the horizon. So I do
appreciate you sharing this because I do think it's really
important that we do talk about this instead of, because
you know what? When I was growing up, Kyle, it was, oh,
he's got mental illness. Like if you had depression, there
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was something mentally wrong with you. therefore you never said
anything to anybody. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
And it's really brave of you. And I appreciate you
speaking up on that. And is this not just the
damnedest thing? What a microcosm of what generation fine is
all about. It's like reach out, dude. There's a network
of people that are, you know, whatever words you want
to put in there. Um, and yeah, I really relate
with your couldn't get out of bed. And I've been
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there before when I dealt with injury and when I
dealt with, um, the stress and rigors of playing the
national football league, there have been moments where I have
been literally stuck in place and I need somebody to
come physically remove me. And, uh, I know there's others
out there and dude, if that's you listening on the
other end and you feel in any way like, uh,
(22:41):
like making your life better, take a visit to generation-fine.com.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Uh, good luck this season with, uh, the football with CBS, big,
big promotion there, moving up the ladder.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, having fun. We got him fooled another year, Dan.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
My best to your father. And thanks again, Kyle.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah, thanks a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
See you guys soon.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
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Speaker 2 (23:13):
I like the clash. I'm just, I thought the Ramones
were kind of a novelty band.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Doesn't make me a bad guy because I don't, You know,
like punk rock. The Beatles created punk rock with Helter Skelter.
Go back and listen to that. Tell me about punk rock, knucklehead.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I'll give The Clash more credit in the punk rock
department than The Beatles.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The Beatles helped create it. Go back and listen to
Helter Skelter. Sure. I understand what you're saying. And they
did that in the 60s. Oh, my God. What, Marvin? Sorry, D.P.
Chad GPT said in 2009, U2 reinforced their status as
the biggest rock band in the world through their launch
(23:57):
of their massive U2 360 tour. Thank you. Was that
before or after they downloaded that terrible album? Hall of Famer,
Netflix lead game analyst. I don't know if you want
any part of this. We're fired up here, Luke. I'm
ready to play a game. You know, getting kind of
feisty in here. Do you miss hitting people?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I miss being in a locker room. I don't miss
hitting people. I think being on the game, on the
field in four games the past couple of years, you
see guys run by and you decide you don't want
anything to do with those guys, the running backs, the
offensive linemen. Even the receivers feel like they've gotten bigger
and bigger.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I tell people if you want to see a football game,
if you can watch it from the sidelines, you'll have
a whole different appreciation for what that game sounds like
and how fast it is. I don't know if you
had that feeling, you're welcome to the NFL moment. What
was that like?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Well, you know what's interesting? You talk about watching it
from the field. You don't ever listen to the game
or hear the game or feel the game when you're playing.
But during 2020, that was my first year when I
was done playing. I worked with the Panthers in the
front offices, and I was on the field playing. for
some of those games and there was no one in
the stands to start the year. So you could hear everything,
(25:14):
every hit, every sound, every time a guy puts his
foot in the ground and makes a cut and you
start to realize like, how did I, how did I
play out here during this game for that long? Because
guys are, it's, it's fast, it's physical. Um, and, uh,
I'm glad that, that I was on the sideline at
that point.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Do you have that welcome to the NFL moment?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, it was Michael Robinson. So my rookie year, we
played Seattle at home. It was my first game playing
at inside backer. And Russell Wilson escapes from the pocket.
I'm in zone coverage. I drop. He starts running towards
the line of scrimmage. And I feel like I have
a clean shot on him. I've got a great angle.
(25:56):
I'm running right at him. I think I'm going to
make a big hit. And at the last second, he
cuts me. to my left, I turned my head and
Mike Robinson, number 26 is running full speed at me.
And Russ, Russ had kind of set me up. I
didn't see Mike Robinson and he smacked me. And the
first thing I remember is being on the ground. And
I remember looking up at him and he had a
(26:17):
big smile on his face. And it was, it was
early on. That was probably, I think that was probably
week three or week four. And you realize the game
happens a lot faster than it used to in college.
And When I see Mike to this day, there's still
that little smirk that he's got on his face because
he knows that he got me pretty daggone good.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
If you didn't go to BC, where were you going?
You know what?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Stanford, Duke, and Virginia were the schools, in addition to
Boston College, that I looked really hard at. Stanford was probably...
You know, right up there, that was Harbaugh and Andrew
Luck and that whole crew. And then Coach Cutcliffe at Duke.
I really liked him. He was a great man, a
(27:02):
great football coach. But BC was always home for me.
But I think Stanford with Harbaugh and Duke with Cutcliffe
were two places that would have been good options for me.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
But growing up, you know, in Cincinnati, Ohio State recruit you?
Not really.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
You know, when I was being recruited, I was– I
was small. I was skinny. I wasn't very big. And
quite frankly, if I was recruiting people out of Cincinnati,
I probably wouldn't have recruited me if I was Ohio
State either.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Really?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
No, I was a little, I was a 200 pound
linebacker that was taking biology class and chemistry.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Class, carried a lunchbox around.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
So I don't really blame anybody for not recruiting me.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Wait, you had a lunchbox?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Every day.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Was it a themed lunchbox?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I was fortunate that when I went to school, I
have two brothers and my mom would wake up and
make breakfast and make lunch lunches for us every day.
And it was a very well-balanced lunchbox.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
She did a great job.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
So, yes, I don't know if the lunchbox itself was themed,
but what was inside of it was very much themed.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
All right. So Luke and Netflix game day kicks off
with the game down under in Melbourne. It'll be shouldn't
you be leaving for Australia now?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, we're leaving. We leave we leave us on Sunday.
So I've been trying to wrap my head around it.
We leave on a Sunday and I think we get
there on a Tuesday because they're they're ahead of us.
Plus the time change in the flight. It took me
a second to kind of wrap my head around. how
all that works. But yeah, we're leaving soon. We leave
on Sunday of this week.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay. So that'll be coverage starting at 6.30 Eastern kickoff
at 8.30 Eastern next week. Are you expecting Aaron Donald
to be in Australia?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
That would certainly make it more exciting. Honestly, I think
it would be really cool if he played. I think
what I think about with this whole thing is, you know,
running's great, agility's great. You watch all the videos of
him and him training. He looks phenomenal. I think the
one question that I would ask myself is, what happens
when people start leaning on you? I think that's probably
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the biggest thing. If I were to go back and
play after not playing for two years, how were you
able to brace for impact? How are you able to
mimic contact to the speed at which it's going to
happen in the game? So I think for the game
sake I would love for him to play I think
it adds a tremendous amount of storylines and him and
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Miles Garrett and how the rest of the define defense
line benefits from him being in the game but I
think if you're the Rams you got to figure out
what's the best long-term approach for having him part of
that team you know when they make a push in December.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
January How does Aaron Donald impact the linebackers on the
Rams with him back?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Good luck getting up to him. I think if you're
Nate Landman and that crew right there, you're running clean
to the football. Let's be honest, it's Aaron Donald, it's
Miles Garrett, Kobe Turner, and then the one guy that's
going to benefit the most from this is Byron Young.
You've got to block those big, and Braden Fisk, you've
got to block those big guys up front before you
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get to the second level. So if you're those Rams linebackers,
you're just sitting there smiling, knowing that, Hey, they got
to block these monsters before they get up to us.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You sack Stafford before?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
I didn't even get near him. Nope. Not anywhere close
to him. My, my pass rushing skills are very, were
very minimal.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
How many sacks did you have in your career?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Man, I think I, I think I had 12 and
two or three or four of them were clean to
the football. So, That requires zero pass rush ability. I do.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Who did you get that you go, I can tell
my grandkids?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Man, well, in the Super Bowl, Sean McDermott called a
great blitz, and I got Peyton Manning. And that required, again,
zero skill. The biggest thing you have to do is
you make sure you get him on the ground. I
was clean right up the middle to Peyton Manning, and
the hardest thing is to not miss him. So that'd
be my... My most memorable Quebec sack.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You know, we look at those teams that lose the
Super Bowl and we used to label like you were
a disappointment, like the Buffalo Bills went to four consecutive
Super Bowls. I said, why are we celebrating that you
got to the Super Bowl? I know you guys got embarrassed,
but what's it like in that game that everybody's watching
you and everybody's going to have some kind of opinion
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about you or your team after something like that?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I think everybody's going to have an opinion regardless if win, lose, draw,
how the season went. But I don't think that that season,
when you look back on it and you get perspective
and the further away that team gets from that game,
I think we realize how special that year was, how
fun the OTAs were, the off-season training camp, the journey
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through that season into the playoffs, two playoff games at home,
the energy that in the, in the city, in the
Carolinas and have the opportunity to play in a super bowl,
I think was, was super special. Obviously you want to
win that game and, um, that's the ultimate goal playing football,
but I think the memories and the opportunities we had
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that season and the players that we put on that team,
that the front office did a great job is what
made that season special. I don't think it's defined by
one game or, you know, the disappointment of not winning
the Super Bowl. I think for us, it was more
how special that team was, how fun that team was,
how special that group was together. And I think when
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you look back on it, that's the positive that really
came from it.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You think Cam Newton will be a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I think he should be just, and I get to
see it on a daily basis, but I don't think
for that stretch there that Cam had, I don't think
there was a more dominant player when you walked out
on the field in camp. And I think, you know,
his ability to affect the game throwing and obviously running
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the ball, short yardage goal line in walking out for
coin tosses for teams that we didn't play a whole
lot and watching those guys walk out and look at cam.
It's like, it's like they had no idea he was
that big. And it looked like he got 10 times
bigger when he, when he was in his uniform because
(33:53):
he had the rib pads and the shin pads and
the hair and the wristbands. And he just got bigger
and bigger as game day approached.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Because that following year, didn't you open up with Denver
in Denver?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And I remember the Broncos beat the hell out of
Cam in that game. They were lining him up and
pounding him. And I just kept remembering it. being on
the field and seeing how big he was and realizing
what these defensive players were doing to him. That is, they,
(34:28):
they pounded him that night and, uh, you know, kept
getting back up, but you know, after a while, those
hits take their toll.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Yeah. He's, he's, we always joked that he was made
of concrete, that, that you, he was like a pillar
out there. You just hit him and hit him and
he just keeps, he keeps getting back up. But I
think it's a testament to, number one, his toughness, and
number two, his competitive drive and who he is as
(34:57):
a person. And a lot of stuff that Cam did,
we kind of– it's just Cam being Cam. And then
when you think about it, you start to realize how
special what he did for that team was.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Calling a game now. It's one thing to watch when
you're at home with your buddies– But, you know, you're
going to be there with Noah Eagle. You got to
get in and get out. Get in, get out. Like,
do you have a finite amount of time that you go,
I got 15 seconds here or I got 12 seconds here?
How do you work mentally of being an analyst?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Well, I think you start to just understand that, hey,
I have a job and I have a team. Noah
is your teammate. And you start to realize that I
have to. do my job in a way that allows
Noah to do his job. So I think quick in
and out, concise, get your point across, make it digestible
and understandable, and then, and then get out and allow
(35:53):
Noah to do his job as well. He's, he's phenomenal.
He's so easy to work with. He sets you up great.
And then it's my job, like you said, to get in,
get my point across, get my point articulated, and then
allow Noah to set the play up and do what
he does best as well. So I think that's what
makes it fun is the teamwork. aspect of that.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Booth okay but is this any different than what you
did defensively where get in get out of the huddle
or make your call then there's the play now regroup
get in get out get ready for the next play.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I think to a sense to in a sense yes
um the uh the procedure i think is a little
bit different because in the game i think you're digesting
i get a play call in my ear And then
I've got to relay it to the guys in the field.
(36:45):
And then I, like you said, I got to break
the huddle and turn around and digest what's going on.
So you're kind of thinking all the way up to
the snap as far as, as a player versus I
think in the booth, you're, it's more of reactionary. And then, Hey,
based on what happened on the field, what can I
give the viewers to help educate them, give them further
(37:06):
context versus while you're playing, it's like, all right, Hey,
What do I like out of our menu on third
and sixth? What did I watch during practice and during
tape that allows me to have success? Maybe what do
I need to tell the guy next to me? Maybe
Thomas is telling me something different. So I think it's
more of a living organism while you're playing because there's
(37:27):
10 other guys that you're working with versus in the booth.
I think it's, you know, it's one of my first
times doing it. So I'm still trying to figure it
out a little bit as well, but it's more of a,
what I saw, let me give somebody something quick that
they can chew on, get in and get out, and
then let Noah do his job as well.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah. Wait till like three years, two years, and you
listen back to this and then you'll go, oh my gosh,
because we all do it. I went back to my,
like my early sports center days. I'm going, oh my God,
so bad. But you know, it's part of the evolution,
the progress, the process of it. So, and you got
a great person to set you up. The key is
(38:10):
with play by play, they can make or break you.
And you got Noah who learned from his dad, he's
going to put you in a position to succeed. And
you know, that, that'll help you, uh, instead of you
scrambling to go, I, I got nine seconds here. I
can't say anything. Uh, Noah will be very good at
being brief with his comments to give you, you know,
(38:30):
that room for opportunity. And, So it'll be fun for you.
At least I hope it will be. And don't read
social media, okay? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Stay off.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I told JJ Watt that. I said, dude, don't be on.
He goes, no, why not?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
I go, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
He goes, I can take it. I said, all right, well,
you're tougher than I can. I don't want to know
what social media is going to say. They're never happy
about anything, Luke.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Yeah, I think, you know, you kind of learn it
as a player. You can always find whatever you want
on social media.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
If you think you're the greatest thing, you can find
somebody that says you're the greatest thing. If you want
to find somebody that says you stink, if you look
hard enough, you can find that too. If so, it's
one of those things, whatever you want social media to say,
you can find it and filter it and figure it out. So,
like you said, I think I'm lucky to have Noah
(39:23):
in there because he's so good and he has fun.
He's got a great personality and he's quick. and I'm
certainly looking forward to it. I think it's going to
be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Good to talk to you. Again, congratulations on the Hall
of Fame, Luke.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Thank you. Appreciate it. All right.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Luke Keekly, Hall of Famer.
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