September 30, 2026 • 43 mins
Dan reviews last night's Wild Card round matchups as the Braves, White Sox, Yankees and Padres all won. He highlights New York's Cam Schlittler and Ben Rice in the team's victory over Boston. NBC Sports Football Night in America analyst Devin McCourty stopped by to give his thoughts on Drake Maye, the Raiders and Case Keenum. As he prepares for the National League Division Series, Brewers’ ace Jacob Misiorowski chatted with Dan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's a pizza Wednesday. Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Was the veep of ops the one who pointed out
the correction to you?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yes, he did.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Okay. Part of his job. Yes.
Speaker 5 (00:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And I said, fine.
Speaker 6 (00:15):
I'm going to– everybody is an executive producer out here,
I guess. I think when we first started, you guys
wanted business cards. It was McLovin and Pauly and Seton
and Todd. And I remember Todd goes, well, I'm going
to put down I'm an executive producer.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I said, but you're not. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (00:31):
It actually went, you asked us what we wanted on
our titles because you were going to buy us business cards.
And I let Todd go first.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And Todd goes, ah, producer. And I went, executive producer. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
But who are we fooling? 25 years later, I'm still
the booker.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Which I love so much. You're Devin Booker.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
He's my booker. Just tell him what guest you want
and he'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (00:54):
Well, should I change my title? Because last year when
I claimed my taxes, I was just bored up. And
they were like, what does that entail? I was like,
I operate the board.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
What title would you like? Associate producer?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Why not? I think you're higher up than that. How
about just producer?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Congratulations.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
I mean, you got to start producing, but I'm just
saying producer is fine.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yes, Dylan. I mean, if we get to pick, I'll
take executive producer if we're just handing those out. Yeah,
I would say producer for you right now.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
All right. Yes.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
And part of every podcast, I think, that we do
here on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's a little wordy.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
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Speaker 2 (02:07):
And yes, Todd.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Dylan's a little shy, but he whispered to me he
wants to be senior podcast contributor. How do you feel
about that?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
All right, we'll have a poll question, play of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
See, this is why you can never be anything more
than just a booker.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What are we wearing today? Anything?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I'm wearing an LIU t-shirt, which is not fitting me well.
I don't know what company made this, but I would
have got three XL if I knew this XL was
going to fit like this. My nephew goes to LIU,
just started as a freshman. So I wanted to wear
my LIU shirt.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, Paul. Todd always blames the clothes.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I had nothing to do with it. I had this
large pizza with pepperoni and sausage yesterday at a Coke.
I had nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Now, why would you do that? Because today is Pizza Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I know, but you can never have enough pizza.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I just went for it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Dylan, give me the menu, please.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
We have, Dan, hot honey pepperoni with stracciatella, which has
become a hit around here.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And Oktoberfest pizza, tis the season. So beer brat, sauerkraut, mustard.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And Todd's famous, wonderful classic cheese pizza. Who has it
better than we do?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Nobody.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Okay, we'll have a poll question here coming up, recapping
the baseball yesterday. It was fun yesterday in the man
cave for the Phillies and the Braves. Just about everybody
in the building was gathered around watching that. Braves come
back to beat the Phillies. That Phillies bullpen, not good
in September. Padres blank the Cubs. That was from the
opening swing. The Yankees over the Red Sox and the
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White Sox beat the Astros. Keep in mind, three consecutive days,
three consecutive games, and they don't go city to city.
And if you're wondering, I think since they started this
in 2022, It's 15-1.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The Red Sox, I think a couple of years ago,
they're the only ones to lose game one, come back
to win. It's a best-of-three series.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Speaking of baseball, Jacob Mizorowski, the Brewers' star pitcher, will
join us a little bit later on. Talk some football
with Devin, don't call me Jason McCourty, NBC Football Night
in America analyst. Play of the Day will be coming
up as well. So Phillies, Braves again today, White Sox, Astros,
Red Sox, Yankees and the Cubs and the Padres. Sometimes
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it only takes two. A lot of times you look
at a roster and you're built for 162 games. I
want to know if you're built for a we have
to win this game or it's a two game situation.
or a three-game series, or it's a five-game series, or
a seven-game series. Down through history, you've seen teams that
are built and aren't built for that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
162, yes, but maybe for seven games, not necessarily.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
And keep this in mind, and not that I need
to remind you baseball's the ultimate team sport, but Mike
Trout is living proof of that. He was the best
player in baseball for years. He even shared a clubhouse
with Shohei Ohtani. He reached the postseason just once in
his career. Even 162 games, even Hall of Famers need
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some help there. And what you saw with the Yankees
last night was Cam Schlittler, who's going to be the
Cy Young winner. He was dominating, had 10 strikeouts. And
then Ben Rice handled the offense with a couple of
home runs. That can be the recipe. That can be
the recipe for one night. October has a funny way
of creating heroes. And sometimes a postseason game isn't about
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depth or payroll or the perfect roster. Sometimes it's just
you give the ball to your ace and you have
somebody make a couple of swings and you get to
play again tomorrow. And that was the case last night
because Schlettler looked dominating and he's been dominating ever. Six
and a third, two hits, ten strikeouts. And, hey, can
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I say this for the 1,001st time? That he is
from Massachusetts, and so is Ben Rice. Did you know that?
Speaker 9 (06:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Ben wasn't a Red Sox fan, but Cam apparently was.
It's kind of like, did you know that Clayton Kershaw
and Matt Stafford went to the same high school?
Speaker 9 (06:17):
What?
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I know that the announcers have to seem like we
haven't been watching baseball all year long, and they're going
to tell us about this storyline with Cam Schlittler and
Ben Rice. But, man, I look at Schlittler against Boston,
six games, 38 and two-thirds innings, two earned runs, 49 strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That is a dominating, dominating performance. And this is what
you need.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
In a seven-game series, if I know I have to
face him at least twice, with the possibility of a
seventh game, maybe he comes in in relief.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's a big advantage.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
And if you have another pitcher to go along with him,
now you have a big advantage, I think, when it
comes to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
All right, Dylan, poll question today. What do you have
for me?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, after yesterday's Game 1 wildcard results, who is the
most done? So we've got the Astros, the Cubs, the Phillies,
and the Red Sox, all the losers from yesterday.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
There's no spirit with the Astros. I mean, maybe it's
in the dome, but there was nothing going on with
that team. I think the fans know we're an average team,
and we're in because somebody had to win the division.
Red Sox did not look good, but then, you know,
made them look bad. The Cubs will rebound. At least
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I think they will. Phillies, that was tough too. Donnie
Baseball went to his bullpen a little too early for
a closer and paid the price.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But that Phillies bullpen has not been good in September. Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Should the score matter to the team that lost or
the fans of the team that lost?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
12-0 versus a 2-1 game.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
No, because I always remind people, if you go back
1960 World Series, the Yankees won three games, I think,
against Pittsburgh, all by double digits. And the Pirates, I think,
won four games by one run, and they ended up
winning the World Series. A lot of times you go,
and even go back to the Red Sox-Yankees-ALCS, where the
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Yankees were blowing out the Red Sox. And You don't
get to take those runs with you. That's what you have. Okay,
go ahead. You're killing us.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And then momentum is next day pitcher. That's all this is.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Because if you have a great performance today, that wipes
away what happened yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
2004 ALCS, Game 3, Yankees 19, Red Sox 8.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
And I remember going, how do you recover from something
like that? They're just demoralizing. And the fact that the
Red Sox even knew the Yankees were going to beat them.
And the fact that you have a couple of players
from the Red Sox who were congratulating the Yankees prior
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to game four.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Wild.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But it does happen.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
And you see that sometimes where somebody blows somebody out
and you think that's going to be a trend.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And it's not. All right. What other poll questions do
you have? Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
In my lifetime, that might have been the most star-studded
baseball playoff series ever. From one side with Big Papi, Manny, Schilling, Pedro, A-Rod, Jeter, Pettit, Mariano.
They had stars lined up with Boston and New York.
I don't think I've ever seen that type of star
power in one series in my lifetime.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
And to be in the ballpark for... both of those cities,
there's nothing like that. I've never seen, you know, when
you had the air taken out of the building, when
you can see the fans defeated or know they're going
to be defeated, and to witness that in Yankee Stadium,
of all places... I've seen a lot of sports, but
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that's where you go, oh, my God, they know they're
going to lose. And I always tell this story because
I was doing SportsCenter prior to the game, and I'd
always see Spike Lee and his Yankee gear on.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
He'd say, hey, Dan, who do you like?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I said, I think it's the Red Sox. Now it's 3-0.
I said, I think it's the Red Sox.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, don't say that.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
He goes, why do you say that?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I said, they're too good a team to get swept.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And then next game, I see Spike Lee down the
first baseline.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Hey, Dan, who do you like? I said, I like
the Red Sox. Oh, don't say that. Why do you
say that?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I said, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I sense a shift here. See him the next game. Dan,
who do you like? I said, I like the Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Oh, don't say.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Saw him before game seven. Because, hey, who do you like?
And he goes, don't say it. I know who you're
going to say it.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Don't say it.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I said, I like the Red Sox.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
Ah!
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes, Dylan. Do you think Spike blames you for that series?
He has every reason to, if he wants to.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I mean, he's in, you know, in cloud nine on
cloud nine because of the Knicks. He, I think he's
good now. I think that may be smoothed over that
rough patch for him or between me and him, but
watching that series, that's one of those where you go, okay,
there's no way they can do this.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
They, they can't come back. Wait, Mariano's on the mound.
Wait a minute. Oh, wait, there's a stolen bet. Wait, wait, what?
It's that quick. And when you lose with your.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Best guy on the mound and you are at home,
sometimes these losses count for just a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And that's the carryover. Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, and I feel like even as they got closer
and closer, when the momentum shifted, even they're still waiting
for like an Aaron Boone moment to just bring the
whole house down like literally the year prior.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You're just waiting because, well, we have the best team.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
We're at home. We should win. It just doesn't happen
that way. Even when Schilling was warming up. And you're going,
I remember talking to Terry Francona. I said, wait, is
this a gimmick? And he goes, no, no. Schill wants
to go out there and pitch. I said, why wouldn't
they just bunt on.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Him all the time? He goes, are you going to
say that on SportsCenter? And I said, I might. He goes, okay.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
And I kept thinking, why don't you just bunt on
Schilling and make him go and field every one of those?
So what if he goes through three innings? But I
want him putting pressure on that ankle, the surgery, the stitches.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Wild, wild.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Still one of the most amazing feelings of watching a
game when one team has so much momentum and then
they have no momentum. And then you got Kevin Brown
on the mound and he got bombed.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
And history said before 2004 that this doesn't happen to
the Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's supposed to go the other way around.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
World Series odds, in case you're wondering, courtesy of DraftKings.
The Brewers were plus 500 yesterday. Now they're plus 600
and they haven't even played. The Yankees were plus 850.
Now they're plus 650. The Dodgers still the overwhelming favorites,
plus 200. The Braves plus 1,500 now after yesterday, plus 1,100.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The Rays stay at plus 800.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
The Phillies have the longest odds, them and the Cubs,
followed by the Red Sox Astros. And the White Sox, look,
I know it's not a sexy team, but when you
consider what did they lose? 223 games combined the two
previous years, and they win a playoff game?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's remarkable.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
They were an all-time, all-time bad team. Bad organization, bad ownership,
and somehow here they are after all of those losses,
and then you end up winning that game against the Astros.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan
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Speaker 10 (14:56):
Stugatz here, pleased to be hosting college football with Stugatz
and the Bear. We do it two times a week,
every Monday, every single Friday throughout the college football season.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You can expect a little bit of this.
Speaker 10 (15:08):
Will Stein, the head.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Coach at Kentucky, joins us. Open bar at a wedding,
ordering a Shirley Temple. Will or will not?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
No. Will not. Ketchup on steak.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Will or will not? Will not.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
A little bit of this.
Speaker 10 (15:23):
Reese Davis, host of College Game Day, is with us now.
And then I'm going home to the BBC, and they're
saying Jockovich instead of Jokovich.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Right, because you can't say Jockovich.
Speaker 10 (15:33):
If you do, you know the blowback you're going to
get from the American audience.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Right.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And a whole lot of this.
Speaker 10 (15:44):
Listen to college football with Stugatz and the Bear on
the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You get your podcasts.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Devin McCourty, Football Night in America analyst and three-time Super
Bowl champ.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
He will be with the Football Night in America crew.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
It's the Lions at the Panthers kick off 820 Eastern
on NBC and Peacock. All right, let me start with
Drake Maye. This isn't about this season for me. I
go back to the playoffs last year. I know he
was banged up going into the Super Bowl, but this
is far more than just a couple of bad games. Now,
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in my opinion, a couple of bad games to start
this year. When he went against good defenses last year,
he was not.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
An MVP candidate. So how would you get him out
of this funk?
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Yeah, I think the hard thing is I thought last
year he didn't play particularly well, but I thought what
was around him Wasn't that good either. But what I
enjoyed about last year was it wasn't the poor decision making.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I think that's for me the difference of this year
is that.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
No matter what position you play, you can't, when I
was in New England under Bill Belichick, like you can't
make losing plays. Like we can't keep, he used to
always say that we can't keep guys on the field
that are causing us to lose. It's just not fair
to the rest of the guys. And like, for me,
that's my biggest issue when I'm watching Drake May right
now is your team is competing. You go back to week,
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the first game of the year kickoff in Seattle and
Your team is.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Playing well enough around you to go win. Is it perfect?
Does it look great?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
No.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
But then you throw three interceptions late in that game.
That's the difference in the game. You fumble the ball
in Jacksonville. The game's still competitive. You make a bad
throw in the end zone. So like you should have
two field goals.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
You don't. So it should be 14-9. But instead it's
14-3 like.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
Those plays to me have been more of his issue
of we just can't make the bad decision, no matter
the struggles we're going through. Maybe we're not throwing the
ball great or we just can't. We can't give the
ball away and give the other team opportunity to win
the game off of our mistakes.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
What's your level of belief in the Raiders?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Right now, I think you see Raiders winning is one thing.
If you go back and you go watch their film,
it's screaming, hey, we're playing good football.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
So for me, I think the Raiders are going to
be a hard out in a division where the Chargers
don't look like they're going to be competitive. Denver's still
trying to find their way. And obviously Kansas City looks
amazing right now. The Raiders, like the football, the X's
and O's when you turn on the tape looks damn good.
It's hard to just say like, oh, it's just the
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first two weeks, the first three weeks.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
They look like a good football team right now.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
What about the Texans? You could always rely on the defense.
They're not even getting that.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
For me, I'm worried about the Texans.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
When I first retired and.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
I got into the media, everyone, you know, when you're playing,
you're not paying attention to everybody else.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Everyone was like, the Bengals, they just start slow. They'll
be okay.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
And I was like, guys in National Football League, there's
no such thing as like, we'll be okay. We'll catch
up to everybody. So for Houston, I think they got
to get some guys healthy. They got to get Ingram
back up front on the offensive line. They got to
get Nico Collins back at receiver. But like overall, you
look at the two losses to Buffalo and this past week,
they lost to Indy. They had the lead and they
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just needed their defense to get one stop and they
win the game.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
They didn't get it. And not that the defense is
playing poorly. It's just not as dominant as it was
a year ago.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
And I think that's a little bit of the issue
with this team is they rely way too much on
their defense having to like just shut down and have
historic numbers.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
You can't win like that consistently in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Chargers are 0-3.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
Why? I don't think, I think the loss of Jesse
Minter has played a bigger role defensively. Dalvin Cook, I
mean Dalvin Cook, James Cook has. I think, 154 yards
rushing last week. They played better against the pass. They
created turnovers. But then the offensive leaders trying to find
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their way under Mike McDaniel and the Herbert situation, it's
just not gelling. But they don't look like they have that, like,
urge that we've seen from the Jim Harbaugh teams earlier.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
And I think that's been their issue. And they're a
few weeks away.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
From this season just being over and we're done with
them and they'll figure out where they kind of land
in the draft.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
So you got Panthers and the Lions coming up this Sunday.
What is different about Bryce Young this year?
Speaker 9 (20:27):
I think when Bryce Young can hit that back foot
and he can throw the ball and they give.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Him a clean pocket, it looks great.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
I think what Bryce has done an even better job
of when that hasn't been there. he's been able to
create some plays that has been better. I think that
is tailing off the back end of last year into
this year where he's able to make some plays that,
you know, they're not there in the beginning. And I
think the threats that they got around him are better.
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So he's able to get the ball to some guys
that can.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Do the rest.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Jalen Coker's played really well to start the season.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I think that's been a big help for him.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
What's a defense do when they go against a backup
quarterback or a third-string quarterback with the Bears? Because we
look at the offensive side of this, of what the
offense is going to.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Do, and you limit the playbook there.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
But is there a different strategy when you're playing defense
against a backup quarterback?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I think sometimes the best defenses are you just keep
it moving.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
I think with Case Keenum, it was a little different
because Case has been out there for a while, so
you're not going to confuse him as much. But you
want to keep it moving because– You don't know how
many tools in the toolbox he has to get out
of different plays, get into a new play because he
hasn't gotten a lot of reps. So I think for me,
Philadelphia is way more kind of traditional.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
They line up and play more than any other defense.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
So I think that made it a little easier for
Ben Johnson and Case Keenum. to get together during the
week and construct a game plan of how to attack
because you kind.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Of know where their guys are going to be.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Whereas I think as a defense, you go against a backup,
let's be moving around, let's do a few things differently.
It doesn't mean blitz them all out, blitz all the time,
but let's just keep disguising and keep it moving so
it's not easy.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
He's Devin McCourty. Don't make mistakes and call him Jason McCourty.
That happens all the time, doesn't it?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
All the time. Everywhere I go, they're like, man, I
just saw you on TV yesterday. And I was like,
that's not me. That's not me.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Sometimes people don't believe me that there's two of us
because he was such a bad player that they thought
there was only one of us.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Could you have gotten into his uniform and he got
into your uniform and nobody would have known the difference?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Especially Belichick. He would not have known at all until
the play started. And then he would be like, what
the hell is going on? Then he would have known
the difference right away.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Football Night in America analyst. You start to look at
after three weeks. And I think Belichick, didn't he usually
say the first four weeks, that's kind of your preseason?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Extension of the preseason.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
But when you heard that, like, I don't know, is
that feel weird that he's not looking at it like, wait,
these are real games. He's kind of assessing his team
through the first month.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
It was fortunate being a captain. So then we would
kind of hear what that meant. And if you ever
look at like New England's games in that time.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Period, we would have so many guys playing.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
Guys would be rotating in every like fourth series of
the game because he would.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Say to us, we don't truly have an identity yet.
We think we know how we want to play. But
we have to go play to that.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
So like he's like, there's probably like four or five
spots every year where the competition was close through the preseason.
But like the big question is, what is that guy
going to do once we get into regular season games?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
And I think that's what he always meant. Some of
those top position battles.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yeah, we picked a starter, but are we in love
with the starter compared to the backup? Maybe not like
that backup still going to get some reps and we're
going to figure it out. So it was always like
a lot more people playing in that time period because
his whole thing was when we get to December, we
want to know who our guys are and the guys
that are not our guys.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
We don't want them on the field. We want to
go down with our best players.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
And that's why I like that September time was an
extension of the preseason because he always felt after Thanksgiving
that is when games truly mattered and you had to
be your absolute best.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
More likely to pick up a tell from a quarterback
or a wide receiver as a defensive back?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I always love the tells from the quarterback.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
If I could get a tell from the quarterback, how
they like to double move, where they like to go,
how they like to look off when they were throwing
a pass.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Give me somebody who you knew that there was a
tell with them.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I'll say this.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
There was a teller I had like when I played
Peyton Manning and when we played Peyton when he's in Denver,
very rarely did he.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Throw any post routes. We played a lot of center
field and we closed off the post route.
Speaker 9 (25:08):
And there was a tell with him and some other
quarterbacks of when they were in their drop, when they
wanted to kind of throw a double move or a
post route, they would look as soon as.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
They got the ball.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
They would look one way right away to try to
get the safety to move so they could fire the
ball back across the field. And Peyton did that one game.
And I was like, Oh, he's lying to me. He's
looking over there. He's coming back. And he looked over
there and he stayed over there and he threw it.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
The same way he looked from the beginning of the play.
Speaker 9 (25:40):
And I remember sitting there being like, Man, like Peyton
Manning just looked down a receiver and he's he's playing
with my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
He's not supposed to do that. And that's why I
like the great ones were great. They understood the chess
match that was going on.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Did you ever pick off Peyton? I did.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
I got paid in my rookie year and I still
got that ball.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
So certain balls you don't get rid of.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But you wouldn't ask him to sign that, would you?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I feel like when I was young, you didn't do
things like that.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
Like, that wasn't– that was kind of frowned upon.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Like, I always felt like a veteran player.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Like, guys were pissed when they lost.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It wasn't one of those things where you were kind
of like, oh, man, yeah, you got me laughing. Especially, like,
I picked him when he was an Indy. There was
no love lost.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
Like, those games we felt like would decide who was
going to the AFC Championship and, you know, who was
going to go play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Who's the best– well, Peyton, anybody– higher up on the
food chain that you picked off?
Speaker 4 (26:41):
No, Peyton, I was mad.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
I only got one opportunity to get Tom and I
felt like I hesitated on a route and a formation.
I had seen probably 50 times and I was like,
this is going to be this. And I was like
a step late and I made the tackle and I
was like, I should have just went. And cause I knew,
I knew what it was. And that's the only, that's
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the only other quarterback I would have loved to get.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Would have been tom brady the one time.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
I played against him did you get brett farve i.
Speaker 9 (27:12):
Did get brett farve i got brett farve my rookie
year um which was crazy to me because i was
like i watched this guy when i was in like
middle school how the hell do i have a brett
farve interception uh so my rookie year was cool i
got brett farve payton uh and.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Philip rivers all in my rookie year which was really.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Cool but did that one hurt with farve because he
liked to throw it pretty hard.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
No, so I actually was a weird interception, threw it
to Percy Harvin as he was bringing the ball in.
I kind of stripped it out of his hand, popped
in the air. So I didn't break a finger trying
to catch a Brett Favre interception.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh, so technically you didn't pick off Brett Favre.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
It counted as an interception.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
It did?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It did. Because he didn't possess the ball long enough.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
He kind of like caught it as he was bringing
it in. I popped it out.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Great to talk to you. Safe travels as always. Thanks
for joining us, Devin.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Appreciate it, Dan. Good seeing you, man.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
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Speaker 6 (28:19):
Jacob Mizorowski, the other Miz, the Brewers pitcher, and he,
of course, will be the Cy Young winner. Do you
have permission from the original Miz to use the nickname
The Miz, Jacob?
Speaker 5 (28:32):
No, I believe I do not. You know, there was
a whole thing on another show that he was a
little upset about.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Really? Have you met him?
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I have not, no.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Okay. I have to line that.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Would you be okay if I lined something like that up,
that you met The Miz?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah, 100%. Yeah, it'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
When did you become a wrestling fan? Honestly, probably this year.
I probably got into it. I really haven't been into wrestling,
and then all this happened, and actually this Sunday or Monday,
I went to RAW here in Milwaukee, so it was fun.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Could you see yourself getting in the ring?
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Maybe in a little while. Not right now in my career,
but after I'm done, okay, sure, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Do you have a signature move? You've got to have
one of those, right?
Speaker 5 (29:27):
I don't even know what you would want to do.
I don't think right now, no, I don't have one.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Okay, we can work on that. The first time you
threw 100 miles an hour, what do you remember about them.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I was in junior college uh you know honestly uh
we were at the uh grand junction the college world
series and uh And I turn around and the radar
gun had three digits and the one didn't even pop
up and it just popped up double zero. I was like,
you know, I'm either really really slow or really fast.
So I took the latter of it.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I know that we focus on that, but you're a
pitcher like you're not a thrower. So how do you
fight sort of don't look at me as one dimensional
that all I do is throw 100 miles an hour.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest thing is commanding
the zone. You know, a lot of guys can throw
a hundred, but not a lot of them can locate
a hundred. I think it's a different, you know, different being.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
What was your welcome to the big leagues moment, good
or bad?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Uh, it was, it was bad. It was, uh, um,
my first time going into city field and, uh, you know,
kind of got hit around a little bit. And then
all of a sudden Soto walks up and, you know,
I leave one over the middle and hits a grand
slam off me. So that was the first one of
my career. And it kind of like, oh shit, here
we go.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
But how do you recover from something like you're all
alone on the mound when that happens? Like you can't
hide that feel. What is that feeling like when it
goes bad?
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Um, you know, honestly, it feels like shit. You know,
you feel so alone. You feel like you let your
teammates down. I think that's the worst part. I don't think,
you know, I don't care about the outside noise. That's
not the part that I get down on myself. You know,
I'm down on myself because... There is eight guys behind
me that were trying to, you know, cheer me on
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and do their job to help me succeed. And then
I let them down by giving up X, Y or Z.
So it's one of those things.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
What's a home run sound like?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Oh, gosh. Yeah, I know this is going to get clipped.
It sounds it kind of sounds like a. It's not
like a high pitch, but it's like a solid thud.
It's kind of like, I don't know, that's the best
way to describe it. It sounds different. If you get
it off the end and it's a pop-up, it kind
of sounds hollow, but when I hit it good, it
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sounds like nothing else. It sounds all its own.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But you know it.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Greg Maddux told me that, I said, you know, what
does a home run sound like? He said two cars crashing.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yes, I like that, yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
But would you rather give up a bomb that goes
450 or one that trickles over the wall?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Oh, a bomb, 100%. I want him to earn that.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
You got any problem if bad flip, they take their
time getting around the bases?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
No. No, I think, honestly, I think it's the other way.
I think it's an honor that they're doing that. You know,
if they ran around really quick and were in and out,
then I feel like they would be showing me up.
The other way around, it's like, okay, I finally got
to this guy. Here's my time to celebrate. You know,
have fun.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
And I got to believe when the ball hits the mitt,
when you're throwing that hard, like there's a certain sound
that you have that I don't know if certain ballparks
are going to be quieter and you could hear that
thud and the message it might send to the opposing dugout.
Do you ever factor that in of, yeah, there's more
where that came from? Honestly, not really. You know, our
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ballpark and like.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
We're pretty loud when it starts a game, so you
don't really hear anything, or I'm not hearing it. So,
you know, honestly, I don't hear much with the mitt.
Maybe in the bullpen or something, you hear it like
a whack.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
How many fingers have you broken on your catchers?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I think last year, I think William had a messed
up thumb. And that might be the first or second
one I've messed up. If that was me, you know,
William's a crazy guy. And so you never know what
he could have done.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Who gets your attention the most when they come to
the plate? I'm not going to say makes you nervous,
but yeah, like you can see them in the on
deck circle.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Um, honestly, this is like, it sounds weird, but like
those like slappy, slappy hitters, like, uh, you know, I mean, uh,
Suzuki's not a slappy hitter, but he's one of those
contact guys that has power. Those guys kind of get
me going. You see that, and you're like, okay, here
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we go. This is a true battle. Luis arrives. There's
a good one. A guy like that, they're just looking
to put a ball in play. Those guys get me
going more than the big power guys.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Now it's okay to strike out. You've got a kid
with the White Sox who struck out 227 times, Jacob.
yeah yeah and it's uh that's got to be good
news for you I'm not.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Mad about it yeah that's no I yeah I don't
I mean you have Schwarber up there too right he
was uh he struck out a lot um but no
it's a it's a different ball game all they want
is a homer and they don't really care they'll take
the side effect of the strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
What about Otani.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah, he's a fun at-bat, especially in Dodger Stadium when
they play his, oh gosh, what's his block out? It's
like Justin Timberlake, I can't remember what it is, but
it sounds like it's right in the back of your head.
Those speakers are bumping, and all of a sudden you
hear that, and the crowd goes, ooh! That's a different bat, too.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Let me see. Ray, do you have that walkout song
for Otani?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I'm seeing it's Feeling Good by Michael Buble.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Buble, thank you. Yes, there you go. Yeah, it's different.
It's different. It's not a normal walkout, but definitely you
hear it and you're like, okay, there's Otani. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Give me the walkout song that bothers you.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Honestly, I don't really hear any of them. The only
ballpark I hear them in is Dodger Stadium because that
speaker in center field is so loud. So it's like
most of them, I'm so locked in, I don't even
hear anything.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
What is the hardest part of pitching?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Like we were talking about earlier, I think just the,
not really being alone, but being one of the sole
players effectors of a game I think that's like if
either way like it could go really good or really
bad and like it's still on you like you were
the lead culprit of this.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Who was your pitcher that you looked up to idolize
maybe had their poster on your wall.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Um Adam Wainwright you know coming from KC like obviously
other side of the state um But, no, that dude
was dominant and, you know, had Yachty back there, too.
Those two were a nasty combo.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
And what team did you grow up a fan of?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
The Royals.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
You know, wrong era for a Royals fan. I mean,
we did get the one win, but, you know, on
the other side of the state, you had so much success.
So it was hard to watch, but it was really,
really cool to watch.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Did you hate the Cardinals growing up?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I don't know about hate, but definitely disliked.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Who's your rival now?
Speaker 5 (37:22):
I feel like it has to be the Cubs. Like,
you know, it's like that series when they come up
here or we go down there is always fun. Those
fans get into it and, you know, it's a competitive series.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Your thoughts on Pete Crow Armstrong for MVP?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Well-deserved. You know, the dude's crazy athletic out there in
center field and then, you know, has amazing power behind
him at the bat. So it's fun.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Can you understand, like, hitters, how much do you want
to hit?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Not at all. I'm good. Really? I'm good, yes.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Even in high school, were you a great athlete?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Yeah, I mean, I batted a little bit and then
started getting college recruiting offers and all that and kind
of just, you know, fizzled out. So, stuck to pitching.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Did you play any other sports?
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Um, I actually stopped playing other sports my, uh, sophomore year.
So yeah, I ran cross country. I, uh, I did
some other sports here and there and kind of fizzled
out of everything and chose baseball.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
How hard were you throwing in high school?
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Um, like senior year, I bet I was in the
mid to upper nines. So. Oh, okay. All right.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Build me the perfect pitch or pitcher. So I'll take
your fastball.
Speaker 9 (38:45):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Then, curveball?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I like my slider better, but we could go curveball. Curveball,
you could go... I mean.
Fire Clayton Kershaw can be from the left side. Can
I throw away a projection? Just throw one pitch from
the other side?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Nobody can replicate that curveball, can they?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
No, no, no. It's a one-of-a-kind pitch. You know, I
think the closest one, honestly, is a guy with us,
Aaron Ashby. Just because of where the release is from,
it's such a special pitch like that.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What about Slider?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Honestly... I want to go with my slider on my
heater because I'd go Kim Slitler's fastball in my slider.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
So you're going to give Slitler, which we saw last night,
his fastball is better than yours?
Speaker 5 (39:42):
I want to know better, but I like his metrically. Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
What about changeup?
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Oh, I mean, let's go Devin Williams. You know, that's
a nasty change-up. You could also go Henderson. He's a
pretty gross one, but let's go Devin. Let's go the Airbender.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
Are there any stupid conversations on the mound? Because we
never know what's going on. You guys put the glove
over your face. Have you ever had a funny one
out there?
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Yeah, there's been a few times. Williams come up to
me and just been like, just off the cuff, just
random stuff. like I'll give up a base hit and
he'll just be giving me time or something. And, you know,
he comes up and he's just like, I'm all worried
about the game. And all of a sudden William comes
up and was like, Hey, what are you doing later
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tonight for dinner? Like, you want to go to dinner somewhere?
It's like, dude, we're, this is a fifth inning. Like
we got one out. We got to figure out how
to get out of this. Like dude doesn't care. He's
not worried about it. So it's fun.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
How often do you change signs during a game?
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I mean, before Pitchcom, like, I mean, yeah, you'd do
it probably two or three times in a game. You know,
guys were getting on base a lot, you know, especially
at second base. So now with Pitchcom, never. You know,
Willie's back there pushing buttons.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Could you just do it without him?
Speaker 5 (41:06):
What do you mean? Without Pitchcom? Yeah, that you just pitch,
you just call your own game. No, no, I would
overthink it and I'd be a mental wreck out there
on the mound because I'm not already. No, it would
be a different ballgame. I couldn't do it. I need
William back there to guide me through.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Do you apologize to batters if you hit them?
Speaker 9 (41:31):
No.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
It depends. Obviously, if you accidentally ride one up and
in and it catches a guy pretty high, sure, I'll
apologize for that. Send over a nice bottle of bourbon
or do something to apologize. Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
You'll buy somebody a bottle of liquor if you accidentally
hit them?
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Yeah, and if I hit a guy in the head
or something, yeah, that's like, hey, I'm sorry, this is
on me. I hope we don't have no hard feelings.
It wasn't on purpose. If I'm getting a guy in
an arm, shoulder... whatever, you know, but I think I
draw the line at like about neck up, you know,
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you kind of, you kind of, you kind of feel bad.
You're like, ah, shit.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Like, but if you're buzzing the tower, then I'm going
to have a problem with you. If I'm the opposing team.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Yeah, exactly. And I'm trying to mitigate that and be like, Hey, look,
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Do this on purpose, but you bought somebody a bottle
of alcohol.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
I did. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
It was, uh, it was a guy with the Rockies.
Why am I blanking on his name? I did it.
It was this year. I accidentally, uh, a heater got
away from me and I, I, he kind of ducked.
It clipped him in the back of the head. It
clipped the helmet. Um, but no, I felt awful. I was, uh,
And so after the game, yeah, I ran into the clubhouse.
I was like, hey, can we send a bottle over
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and apologize?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Tyler Freeman?
Speaker 5 (42:59):
There you go, yes. So it was one of the
situations where I, like, it was getting late in the game.
I was getting tired, and the ball just slipped. And,
you know, I felt bad. Just never want to do
that to a guy. And, you know, that's my way
of saying sorry. Like, it wasn't on purpose. Hope we're
all good.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
98-mile-an-hour fastball.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Yeah, not fun. Damn.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Have you been hit by 100 miles?
Speaker 5 (43:23):
No, no, and I plan to never be hit by 100.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Unless it's a comebacker.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Yeah, I did get hit in the shin by, it
was Suzuki, actually, that hit a little one-hopper into my
shin at 110, so that was fun.
Speaker 6 (43:38):
Great to talk to you. Congrats for your success, and
good luck in the postseason.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
All right, that's Jacob Mizorowski. He's the other Miz.
You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's a pizza Wednesday. Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Was the veep of ops the one who pointed out
the correction to you?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yes, he did.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Okay. Part of his job. Yes.
Speaker 5 (00:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And I said, fine.
Speaker 6 (00:15):
I'm going to– everybody is an executive producer out here,
I guess. I think when we first started, you guys
wanted business cards. It was McLovin and Pauly and Seton
and Todd. And I remember Todd goes, well, I'm going
to put down I'm an executive producer.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I said, but you're not. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7 (00:31):
It actually went, you asked us what we wanted on
our titles because you were going to buy us business cards.
And I let Todd go first.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And Todd goes, ah, producer. And I went, executive producer. Yes, Todd.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
But who are we fooling? 25 years later, I'm still
the booker.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Which I love so much. You're Devin Booker.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
He's my booker. Just tell him what guest you want
and he'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (00:54):
Well, should I change my title? Because last year when
I claimed my taxes, I was just bored up. And
they were like, what does that entail? I was like,
I operate the board.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
What title would you like? Associate producer?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Why not? I think you're higher up than that. How
about just producer?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Congratulations.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
I mean, you got to start producing, but I'm just
saying producer is fine.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yes, Dylan. I mean, if we get to pick, I'll
take executive producer if we're just handing those out. Yeah,
I would say producer for you right now.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
All right. Yes.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
And part of every podcast, I think, that we do
here on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's a little wordy.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Good morning.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
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Speaker 2 (02:07):
And yes, Todd.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Dylan's a little shy, but he whispered to me he
wants to be senior podcast contributor. How do you feel
about that?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
All right, we'll have a poll question, play of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
See, this is why you can never be anything more
than just a booker.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
What are we wearing today? Anything?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I'm wearing an LIU t-shirt, which is not fitting me well.
I don't know what company made this, but I would
have got three XL if I knew this XL was
going to fit like this. My nephew goes to LIU,
just started as a freshman. So I wanted to wear
my LIU shirt.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, Paul. Todd always blames the clothes.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I had nothing to do with it. I had this
large pizza with pepperoni and sausage yesterday at a Coke.
I had nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Now, why would you do that? Because today is Pizza Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I know, but you can never have enough pizza.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
I just went for it.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Dylan, give me the menu, please.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
We have, Dan, hot honey pepperoni with stracciatella, which has
become a hit around here.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And Oktoberfest pizza, tis the season. So beer brat, sauerkraut, mustard.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And Todd's famous, wonderful classic cheese pizza. Who has it
better than we do?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Nobody.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Okay, we'll have a poll question here coming up, recapping
the baseball yesterday. It was fun yesterday in the man
cave for the Phillies and the Braves. Just about everybody
in the building was gathered around watching that. Braves come
back to beat the Phillies. That Phillies bullpen, not good
in September. Padres blank the Cubs. That was from the
opening swing. The Yankees over the Red Sox and the
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White Sox beat the Astros. Keep in mind, three consecutive days,
three consecutive games, and they don't go city to city.
And if you're wondering, I think since they started this
in 2022, It's 15-1.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The Red Sox, I think a couple of years ago,
they're the only ones to lose game one, come back
to win. It's a best-of-three series.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Speaking of baseball, Jacob Mizorowski, the Brewers' star pitcher, will
join us a little bit later on. Talk some football
with Devin, don't call me Jason McCourty, NBC Football Night
in America analyst. Play of the Day will be coming
up as well. So Phillies, Braves again today, White Sox, Astros,
Red Sox, Yankees and the Cubs and the Padres. Sometimes
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it only takes two. A lot of times you look
at a roster and you're built for 162 games. I
want to know if you're built for a we have
to win this game or it's a two game situation.
or a three-game series, or it's a five-game series, or
a seven-game series. Down through history, you've seen teams that
are built and aren't built for that.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
162, yes, but maybe for seven games, not necessarily.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
And keep this in mind, and not that I need
to remind you baseball's the ultimate team sport, but Mike
Trout is living proof of that. He was the best
player in baseball for years. He even shared a clubhouse
with Shohei Ohtani. He reached the postseason just once in
his career. Even 162 games, even Hall of Famers need
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some help there. And what you saw with the Yankees
last night was Cam Schlittler, who's going to be the
Cy Young winner. He was dominating, had 10 strikeouts. And
then Ben Rice handled the offense with a couple of
home runs. That can be the recipe. That can be
the recipe for one night. October has a funny way
of creating heroes. And sometimes a postseason game isn't about
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depth or payroll or the perfect roster. Sometimes it's just
you give the ball to your ace and you have
somebody make a couple of swings and you get to
play again tomorrow. And that was the case last night
because Schlettler looked dominating and he's been dominating ever. Six
and a third, two hits, ten strikeouts. And, hey, can
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I say this for the 1,001st time? That he is
from Massachusetts, and so is Ben Rice. Did you know that?
Speaker 9 (06:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Ben wasn't a Red Sox fan, but Cam apparently was.
It's kind of like, did you know that Clayton Kershaw
and Matt Stafford went to the same high school?
Speaker 9 (06:17):
What?
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I know that the announcers have to seem like we
haven't been watching baseball all year long, and they're going
to tell us about this storyline with Cam Schlittler and
Ben Rice. But, man, I look at Schlittler against Boston,
six games, 38 and two-thirds innings, two earned runs, 49 strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That is a dominating, dominating performance. And this is what
you need.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
In a seven-game series, if I know I have to
face him at least twice, with the possibility of a
seventh game, maybe he comes in in relief.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's a big advantage.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
And if you have another pitcher to go along with him,
now you have a big advantage, I think, when it
comes to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
All right, Dylan, poll question today. What do you have
for me?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, after yesterday's Game 1 wildcard results, who is the
most done? So we've got the Astros, the Cubs, the Phillies,
and the Red Sox, all the losers from yesterday.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
There's no spirit with the Astros. I mean, maybe it's
in the dome, but there was nothing going on with
that team. I think the fans know we're an average team,
and we're in because somebody had to win the division.
Red Sox did not look good, but then, you know,
made them look bad. The Cubs will rebound. At least
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I think they will. Phillies, that was tough too. Donnie
Baseball went to his bullpen a little too early for
a closer and paid the price.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But that Phillies bullpen has not been good in September. Yeah, Paulie.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Should the score matter to the team that lost or
the fans of the team that lost?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
12-0 versus a 2-1 game.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
No, because I always remind people, if you go back
1960 World Series, the Yankees won three games, I think,
against Pittsburgh, all by double digits. And the Pirates, I think,
won four games by one run, and they ended up
winning the World Series. A lot of times you go,
and even go back to the Red Sox-Yankees-ALCS, where the
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Yankees were blowing out the Red Sox. And You don't
get to take those runs with you. That's what you have. Okay,
go ahead. You're killing us.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And then momentum is next day pitcher. That's all this is.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Because if you have a great performance today, that wipes
away what happened yesterday.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
2004 ALCS, Game 3, Yankees 19, Red Sox 8.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
And I remember going, how do you recover from something
like that? They're just demoralizing. And the fact that the
Red Sox even knew the Yankees were going to beat them.
And the fact that you have a couple of players
from the Red Sox who were congratulating the Yankees prior
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to game four.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Wild.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But it does happen.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
And you see that sometimes where somebody blows somebody out
and you think that's going to be a trend.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And it's not. All right. What other poll questions do
you have? Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
In my lifetime, that might have been the most star-studded
baseball playoff series ever. From one side with Big Papi, Manny, Schilling, Pedro, A-Rod, Jeter, Pettit, Mariano.
They had stars lined up with Boston and New York.
I don't think I've ever seen that type of star
power in one series in my lifetime.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
And to be in the ballpark for... both of those cities,
there's nothing like that. I've never seen, you know, when
you had the air taken out of the building, when
you can see the fans defeated or know they're going
to be defeated, and to witness that in Yankee Stadium,
of all places... I've seen a lot of sports, but
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that's where you go, oh, my God, they know they're
going to lose. And I always tell this story because
I was doing SportsCenter prior to the game, and I'd
always see Spike Lee and his Yankee gear on.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
He'd say, hey, Dan, who do you like?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I said, I think it's the Red Sox. Now it's 3-0.
I said, I think it's the Red Sox.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, don't say that.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
He goes, why do you say that?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I said, they're too good a team to get swept.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
And then next game, I see Spike Lee down the
first baseline.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Hey, Dan, who do you like? I said, I like
the Red Sox. Oh, don't say that. Why do you
say that?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I said, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I sense a shift here. See him the next game. Dan,
who do you like? I said, I like the Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Oh, don't say.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Saw him before game seven. Because, hey, who do you like?
And he goes, don't say it. I know who you're
going to say it.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Don't say it.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I said, I like the Red Sox.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
Ah!
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yes, Dylan. Do you think Spike blames you for that series?
He has every reason to, if he wants to.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I mean, he's in, you know, in cloud nine on
cloud nine because of the Knicks. He, I think he's
good now. I think that may be smoothed over that
rough patch for him or between me and him, but
watching that series, that's one of those where you go, okay,
there's no way they can do this.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
They, they can't come back. Wait, Mariano's on the mound.
Wait a minute. Oh, wait, there's a stolen bet. Wait, wait, what?
It's that quick. And when you lose with your.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Best guy on the mound and you are at home,
sometimes these losses count for just a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And that's the carryover. Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, and I feel like even as they got closer
and closer, when the momentum shifted, even they're still waiting
for like an Aaron Boone moment to just bring the
whole house down like literally the year prior.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You're just waiting because, well, we have the best team.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
We're at home. We should win. It just doesn't happen
that way. Even when Schilling was warming up. And you're going,
I remember talking to Terry Francona. I said, wait, is
this a gimmick? And he goes, no, no. Schill wants
to go out there and pitch. I said, why wouldn't
they just bunt on.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Him all the time? He goes, are you going to
say that on SportsCenter? And I said, I might. He goes, okay.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
And I kept thinking, why don't you just bunt on
Schilling and make him go and field every one of those?
So what if he goes through three innings? But I
want him putting pressure on that ankle, the surgery, the stitches.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Wild, wild.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Still one of the most amazing feelings of watching a
game when one team has so much momentum and then
they have no momentum. And then you got Kevin Brown
on the mound and he got bombed.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
And history said before 2004 that this doesn't happen to
the Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's supposed to go the other way around.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
World Series odds, in case you're wondering, courtesy of DraftKings.
The Brewers were plus 500 yesterday. Now they're plus 600
and they haven't even played. The Yankees were plus 850.
Now they're plus 650. The Dodgers still the overwhelming favorites,
plus 200. The Braves plus 1,500 now after yesterday, plus 1,100.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The Rays stay at plus 800.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
The Phillies have the longest odds, them and the Cubs,
followed by the Red Sox Astros. And the White Sox, look,
I know it's not a sexy team, but when you
consider what did they lose? 223 games combined the two
previous years, and they win a playoff game?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
That's remarkable.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
They were an all-time, all-time bad team. Bad organization, bad ownership,
and somehow here they are after all of those losses,
and then you end up winning that game against the Astros.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific
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Speaker 10 (14:56):
Stugatz here, pleased to be hosting college football with Stugatz
and the Bear. We do it two times a week,
every Monday, every single Friday throughout the college football season.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You can expect a little bit of this.
Speaker 10 (15:08):
Will Stein, the head.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Coach at Kentucky, joins us. Open bar at a wedding,
ordering a Shirley Temple. Will or will not?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
No. Will not. Ketchup on steak.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Will or will not? Will not.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
A little bit of this.
Speaker 10 (15:23):
Reese Davis, host of College Game Day, is with us now.
And then I'm going home to the BBC, and they're
saying Jockovich instead of Jokovich.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Right, because you can't say Jockovich.
Speaker 10 (15:33):
If you do, you know the blowback you're going to
get from the American audience.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Right.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And a whole lot of this.
Speaker 10 (15:44):
Listen to college football with Stugatz and the Bear on
the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
You get your podcasts.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Devin McCourty, Football Night in America analyst and three-time Super
Bowl champ.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
He will be with the Football Night in America crew.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
It's the Lions at the Panthers kick off 820 Eastern
on NBC and Peacock. All right, let me start with
Drake Maye. This isn't about this season for me. I
go back to the playoffs last year. I know he
was banged up going into the Super Bowl, but this
is far more than just a couple of bad games. Now,
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in my opinion, a couple of bad games to start
this year. When he went against good defenses last year,
he was not.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
An MVP candidate. So how would you get him out
of this funk?
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Yeah, I think the hard thing is I thought last
year he didn't play particularly well, but I thought what
was around him Wasn't that good either. But what I
enjoyed about last year was it wasn't the poor decision making.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I think that's for me the difference of this year
is that.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
No matter what position you play, you can't, when I
was in New England under Bill Belichick, like you can't
make losing plays. Like we can't keep, he used to
always say that we can't keep guys on the field
that are causing us to lose. It's just not fair
to the rest of the guys. And like, for me,
that's my biggest issue when I'm watching Drake May right
now is your team is competing. You go back to week,
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the first game of the year kickoff in Seattle and
Your team is.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Playing well enough around you to go win. Is it perfect?
Does it look great?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
No.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
But then you throw three interceptions late in that game.
That's the difference in the game. You fumble the ball
in Jacksonville. The game's still competitive. You make a bad
throw in the end zone. So like you should have
two field goals.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
You don't. So it should be 14-9. But instead it's
14-3 like.
Speaker 9 (17:42):
Those plays to me have been more of his issue
of we just can't make the bad decision, no matter
the struggles we're going through. Maybe we're not throwing the
ball great or we just can't. We can't give the
ball away and give the other team opportunity to win
the game off of our mistakes.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
What's your level of belief in the Raiders?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Right now, I think you see Raiders winning is one thing.
If you go back and you go watch their film,
it's screaming, hey, we're playing good football.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
So for me, I think the Raiders are going to
be a hard out in a division where the Chargers
don't look like they're going to be competitive. Denver's still
trying to find their way. And obviously Kansas City looks
amazing right now. The Raiders, like the football, the X's
and O's when you turn on the tape looks damn good.
It's hard to just say like, oh, it's just the
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first two weeks, the first three weeks.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
They look like a good football team right now.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
What about the Texans? You could always rely on the defense.
They're not even getting that.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
For me, I'm worried about the Texans.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
When I first retired and.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
I got into the media, everyone, you know, when you're playing,
you're not paying attention to everybody else.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Everyone was like, the Bengals, they just start slow. They'll
be okay.
Speaker 9 (18:55):
And I was like, guys in National Football League, there's
no such thing as like, we'll be okay. We'll catch
up to everybody. So for Houston, I think they got
to get some guys healthy. They got to get Ingram
back up front on the offensive line. They got to
get Nico Collins back at receiver. But like overall, you
look at the two losses to Buffalo and this past week,
they lost to Indy. They had the lead and they
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just needed their defense to get one stop and they
win the game.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
They didn't get it. And not that the defense is
playing poorly. It's just not as dominant as it was
a year ago.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
And I think that's a little bit of the issue
with this team is they rely way too much on
their defense having to like just shut down and have
historic numbers.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
You can't win like that consistently in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Chargers are 0-3.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
Why? I don't think, I think the loss of Jesse
Minter has played a bigger role defensively. Dalvin Cook, I
mean Dalvin Cook, James Cook has. I think, 154 yards
rushing last week. They played better against the pass. They
created turnovers. But then the offensive leaders trying to find
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their way under Mike McDaniel and the Herbert situation, it's
just not gelling. But they don't look like they have that, like,
urge that we've seen from the Jim Harbaugh teams earlier.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
And I think that's been their issue. And they're a
few weeks away.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
From this season just being over and we're done with
them and they'll figure out where they kind of land
in the draft.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
So you got Panthers and the Lions coming up this Sunday.
What is different about Bryce Young this year?
Speaker 9 (20:27):
I think when Bryce Young can hit that back foot
and he can throw the ball and they give.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Him a clean pocket, it looks great.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
I think what Bryce has done an even better job
of when that hasn't been there. he's been able to
create some plays that has been better. I think that
is tailing off the back end of last year into
this year where he's able to make some plays that,
you know, they're not there in the beginning. And I
think the threats that they got around him are better.
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So he's able to get the ball to some guys
that can.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Do the rest.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Jalen Coker's played really well to start the season.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I think that's been a big help for him.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
What's a defense do when they go against a backup
quarterback or a third-string quarterback with the Bears? Because we
look at the offensive side of this, of what the
offense is going to.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Do, and you limit the playbook there.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
But is there a different strategy when you're playing defense
against a backup quarterback?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I think sometimes the best defenses are you just keep
it moving.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
I think with Case Keenum, it was a little different
because Case has been out there for a while, so
you're not going to confuse him as much. But you
want to keep it moving because– You don't know how
many tools in the toolbox he has to get out
of different plays, get into a new play because he
hasn't gotten a lot of reps. So I think for me,
Philadelphia is way more kind of traditional.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
They line up and play more than any other defense.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
So I think that made it a little easier for
Ben Johnson and Case Keenum. to get together during the
week and construct a game plan of how to attack
because you kind.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Of know where their guys are going to be.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Whereas I think as a defense, you go against a backup,
let's be moving around, let's do a few things differently.
It doesn't mean blitz them all out, blitz all the time,
but let's just keep disguising and keep it moving so
it's not easy.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
He's Devin McCourty. Don't make mistakes and call him Jason McCourty.
That happens all the time, doesn't it?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
All the time. Everywhere I go, they're like, man, I
just saw you on TV yesterday. And I was like,
that's not me. That's not me.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Sometimes people don't believe me that there's two of us
because he was such a bad player that they thought
there was only one of us.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Could you have gotten into his uniform and he got
into your uniform and nobody would have known the difference?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Especially Belichick. He would not have known at all until
the play started. And then he would be like, what
the hell is going on? Then he would have known
the difference right away.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Football Night in America analyst. You start to look at
after three weeks. And I think Belichick, didn't he usually
say the first four weeks, that's kind of your preseason?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Extension of the preseason.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
But when you heard that, like, I don't know, is
that feel weird that he's not looking at it like, wait,
these are real games. He's kind of assessing his team
through the first month.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
It was fortunate being a captain. So then we would
kind of hear what that meant. And if you ever
look at like New England's games in that time.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Period, we would have so many guys playing.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
Guys would be rotating in every like fourth series of
the game because he would.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Say to us, we don't truly have an identity yet.
We think we know how we want to play. But
we have to go play to that.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
So like he's like, there's probably like four or five
spots every year where the competition was close through the preseason.
But like the big question is, what is that guy
going to do once we get into regular season games?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
And I think that's what he always meant. Some of
those top position battles.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yeah, we picked a starter, but are we in love
with the starter compared to the backup? Maybe not like
that backup still going to get some reps and we're
going to figure it out. So it was always like
a lot more people playing in that time period because
his whole thing was when we get to December, we
want to know who our guys are and the guys
that are not our guys.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
We don't want them on the field. We want to
go down with our best players.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
And that's why I like that September time was an
extension of the preseason because he always felt after Thanksgiving
that is when games truly mattered and you had to
be your absolute best.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
More likely to pick up a tell from a quarterback
or a wide receiver as a defensive back?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I always love the tells from the quarterback.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
If I could get a tell from the quarterback, how
they like to double move, where they like to go,
how they like to look off when they were throwing
a pass.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Give me somebody who you knew that there was a
tell with them.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I'll say this.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
There was a teller I had like when I played
Peyton Manning and when we played Peyton when he's in Denver,
very rarely did he.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Throw any post routes. We played a lot of center
field and we closed off the post route.
Speaker 9 (25:08):
And there was a tell with him and some other
quarterbacks of when they were in their drop, when they
wanted to kind of throw a double move or a
post route, they would look as soon as.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
They got the ball.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
They would look one way right away to try to
get the safety to move so they could fire the
ball back across the field. And Peyton did that one game.
And I was like, Oh, he's lying to me. He's
looking over there. He's coming back. And he looked over
there and he stayed over there and he threw it.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
The same way he looked from the beginning of the play.
Speaker 9 (25:40):
And I remember sitting there being like, Man, like Peyton
Manning just looked down a receiver and he's he's playing
with my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
He's not supposed to do that. And that's why I
like the great ones were great. They understood the chess
match that was going on.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Did you ever pick off Peyton? I did.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
I got paid in my rookie year and I still
got that ball.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
So certain balls you don't get rid of.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But you wouldn't ask him to sign that, would you?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I feel like when I was young, you didn't do
things like that.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
Like, that wasn't– that was kind of frowned upon.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Like, I always felt like a veteran player.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Like, guys were pissed when they lost.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It wasn't one of those things where you were kind
of like, oh, man, yeah, you got me laughing. Especially, like,
I picked him when he was an Indy. There was
no love lost.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
Like, those games we felt like would decide who was
going to the AFC Championship and, you know, who was
going to go play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
Who's the best– well, Peyton, anybody– higher up on the
food chain that you picked off?
Speaker 4 (26:41):
No, Peyton, I was mad.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
I only got one opportunity to get Tom and I
felt like I hesitated on a route and a formation.
I had seen probably 50 times and I was like,
this is going to be this. And I was like
a step late and I made the tackle and I
was like, I should have just went. And cause I knew,
I knew what it was. And that's the only, that's
(27:05):
the only other quarterback I would have loved to get.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Would have been tom brady the one time.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
I played against him did you get brett farve i.
Speaker 9 (27:12):
Did get brett farve i got brett farve my rookie
year um which was crazy to me because i was
like i watched this guy when i was in like
middle school how the hell do i have a brett
farve interception uh so my rookie year was cool i
got brett farve payton uh and.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Philip rivers all in my rookie year which was really.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Cool but did that one hurt with farve because he
liked to throw it pretty hard.
Speaker 9 (27:35):
No, so I actually was a weird interception, threw it
to Percy Harvin as he was bringing the ball in.
I kind of stripped it out of his hand, popped
in the air. So I didn't break a finger trying
to catch a Brett Favre interception.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh, so technically you didn't pick off Brett Favre.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
It counted as an interception.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
It did?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It did. Because he didn't possess the ball long enough.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
He kind of like caught it as he was bringing
it in. I popped it out.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Great to talk to you. Safe travels as always. Thanks
for joining us, Devin.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Appreciate it, Dan. Good seeing you, man.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
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Speaker 6 (28:19):
Jacob Mizorowski, the other Miz, the Brewers pitcher, and he,
of course, will be the Cy Young winner. Do you
have permission from the original Miz to use the nickname
The Miz, Jacob?
Speaker 5 (28:32):
No, I believe I do not. You know, there was
a whole thing on another show that he was a
little upset about.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Really? Have you met him?
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I have not, no.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Okay. I have to line that.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Would you be okay if I lined something like that up,
that you met The Miz?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Yeah, 100%. Yeah, it'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
When did you become a wrestling fan? Honestly, probably this year.
I probably got into it. I really haven't been into wrestling,
and then all this happened, and actually this Sunday or Monday,
I went to RAW here in Milwaukee, so it was fun.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Could you see yourself getting in the ring?
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Maybe in a little while. Not right now in my career,
but after I'm done, okay, sure, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Do you have a signature move? You've got to have
one of those, right?
Speaker 5 (29:27):
I don't even know what you would want to do.
I don't think right now, no, I don't have one.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
Okay, we can work on that. The first time you
threw 100 miles an hour, what do you remember about them.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I was in junior college uh you know honestly uh
we were at the uh grand junction the college world
series and uh And I turn around and the radar
gun had three digits and the one didn't even pop
up and it just popped up double zero. I was like,
you know, I'm either really really slow or really fast.
So I took the latter of it.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I know that we focus on that, but you're a
pitcher like you're not a thrower. So how do you
fight sort of don't look at me as one dimensional
that all I do is throw 100 miles an hour.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah. I mean, I think the biggest thing is commanding
the zone. You know, a lot of guys can throw
a hundred, but not a lot of them can locate
a hundred. I think it's a different, you know, different being.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
What was your welcome to the big leagues moment, good
or bad?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Uh, it was, it was bad. It was, uh, um,
my first time going into city field and, uh, you know,
kind of got hit around a little bit. And then
all of a sudden Soto walks up and, you know,
I leave one over the middle and hits a grand
slam off me. So that was the first one of
my career. And it kind of like, oh shit, here
we go.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
But how do you recover from something like you're all
alone on the mound when that happens? Like you can't
hide that feel. What is that feeling like when it
goes bad?
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Um, you know, honestly, it feels like shit. You know,
you feel so alone. You feel like you let your
teammates down. I think that's the worst part. I don't think,
you know, I don't care about the outside noise. That's
not the part that I get down on myself. You know,
I'm down on myself because... There is eight guys behind
me that were trying to, you know, cheer me on
(31:27):
and do their job to help me succeed. And then
I let them down by giving up X, Y or Z.
So it's one of those things.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
What's a home run sound like?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Oh, gosh. Yeah, I know this is going to get clipped.
It sounds it kind of sounds like a. It's not
like a high pitch, but it's like a solid thud.
It's kind of like, I don't know, that's the best
way to describe it. It sounds different. If you get
it off the end and it's a pop-up, it kind
of sounds hollow, but when I hit it good, it
(32:02):
sounds like nothing else. It sounds all its own.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But you know it.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Greg Maddux told me that, I said, you know, what
does a home run sound like? He said two cars crashing.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yes, I like that, yeah.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
But would you rather give up a bomb that goes
450 or one that trickles over the wall?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Oh, a bomb, 100%. I want him to earn that.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
You got any problem if bad flip, they take their
time getting around the bases?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
No. No, I think, honestly, I think it's the other way.
I think it's an honor that they're doing that. You know,
if they ran around really quick and were in and out,
then I feel like they would be showing me up.
The other way around, it's like, okay, I finally got
to this guy. Here's my time to celebrate. You know,
have fun.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
And I got to believe when the ball hits the mitt,
when you're throwing that hard, like there's a certain sound
that you have that I don't know if certain ballparks
are going to be quieter and you could hear that
thud and the message it might send to the opposing dugout.
Do you ever factor that in of, yeah, there's more
where that came from? Honestly, not really. You know, our
(33:20):
ballpark and like.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
We're pretty loud when it starts a game, so you
don't really hear anything, or I'm not hearing it. So,
you know, honestly, I don't hear much with the mitt.
Maybe in the bullpen or something, you hear it like
a whack.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
How many fingers have you broken on your catchers?
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I think last year, I think William had a messed
up thumb. And that might be the first or second
one I've messed up. If that was me, you know,
William's a crazy guy. And so you never know what
he could have done.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Who gets your attention the most when they come to
the plate? I'm not going to say makes you nervous,
but yeah, like you can see them in the on
deck circle.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Um, honestly, this is like, it sounds weird, but like
those like slappy, slappy hitters, like, uh, you know, I mean, uh,
Suzuki's not a slappy hitter, but he's one of those
contact guys that has power. Those guys kind of get
me going. You see that, and you're like, okay, here
(34:31):
we go. This is a true battle. Luis arrives. There's
a good one. A guy like that, they're just looking
to put a ball in play. Those guys get me
going more than the big power guys.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Now it's okay to strike out. You've got a kid
with the White Sox who struck out 227 times, Jacob.
yeah yeah and it's uh that's got to be good
news for you I'm not.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Mad about it yeah that's no I yeah I don't
I mean you have Schwarber up there too right he
was uh he struck out a lot um but no
it's a it's a different ball game all they want
is a homer and they don't really care they'll take
the side effect of the strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
What about Otani.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah, he's a fun at-bat, especially in Dodger Stadium when
they play his, oh gosh, what's his block out? It's
like Justin Timberlake, I can't remember what it is, but
it sounds like it's right in the back of your head.
Those speakers are bumping, and all of a sudden you
hear that, and the crowd goes, ooh! That's a different bat, too.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Let me see. Ray, do you have that walkout song
for Otani?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I'm seeing it's Feeling Good by Michael Buble.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Buble, thank you. Yes, there you go. Yeah, it's different.
It's different. It's not a normal walkout, but definitely you
hear it and you're like, okay, there's Otani. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Give me the walkout song that bothers you.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Honestly, I don't really hear any of them. The only
ballpark I hear them in is Dodger Stadium because that
speaker in center field is so loud. So it's like
most of them, I'm so locked in, I don't even
hear anything.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
What is the hardest part of pitching?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Like we were talking about earlier, I think just the,
not really being alone, but being one of the sole
players effectors of a game I think that's like if
either way like it could go really good or really
bad and like it's still on you like you were
the lead culprit of this.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Who was your pitcher that you looked up to idolize
maybe had their poster on your wall.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Um Adam Wainwright you know coming from KC like obviously
other side of the state um But, no, that dude
was dominant and, you know, had Yachty back there, too.
Those two were a nasty combo.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
And what team did you grow up a fan of?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
The Royals.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
You know, wrong era for a Royals fan. I mean,
we did get the one win, but, you know, on
the other side of the state, you had so much success.
So it was hard to watch, but it was really,
really cool to watch.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Did you hate the Cardinals growing up?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I don't know about hate, but definitely disliked.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Who's your rival now?
Speaker 5 (37:22):
I feel like it has to be the Cubs. Like,
you know, it's like that series when they come up
here or we go down there is always fun. Those
fans get into it and, you know, it's a competitive series.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Your thoughts on Pete Crow Armstrong for MVP?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Well-deserved. You know, the dude's crazy athletic out there in
center field and then, you know, has amazing power behind
him at the bat. So it's fun.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Can you understand, like, hitters, how much do you want
to hit?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Not at all. I'm good. Really? I'm good, yes.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Even in high school, were you a great athlete?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Yeah, I mean, I batted a little bit and then
started getting college recruiting offers and all that and kind
of just, you know, fizzled out. So, stuck to pitching.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Did you play any other sports?
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Um, I actually stopped playing other sports my, uh, sophomore year.
So yeah, I ran cross country. I, uh, I did
some other sports here and there and kind of fizzled
out of everything and chose baseball.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
How hard were you throwing in high school?
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Um, like senior year, I bet I was in the
mid to upper nines. So. Oh, okay. All right.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Build me the perfect pitch or pitcher. So I'll take
your fastball.
Speaker 9 (38:45):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Then, curveball?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I like my slider better, but we could go curveball. Curveball,
you could go... I mean.
Fire Clayton Kershaw can be from the left side. Can
I throw away a projection? Just throw one pitch from
the other side?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Nobody can replicate that curveball, can they?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
No, no, no. It's a one-of-a-kind pitch. You know, I
think the closest one, honestly, is a guy with us,
Aaron Ashby. Just because of where the release is from,
it's such a special pitch like that.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What about Slider?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Honestly... I want to go with my slider on my
heater because I'd go Kim Slitler's fastball in my slider.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
So you're going to give Slitler, which we saw last night,
his fastball is better than yours?
Speaker 5 (39:42):
I want to know better, but I like his metrically. Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
What about changeup?
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Oh, I mean, let's go Devin Williams. You know, that's
a nasty change-up. You could also go Henderson. He's a
pretty gross one, but let's go Devin. Let's go the Airbender.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
Are there any stupid conversations on the mound? Because we
never know what's going on. You guys put the glove
over your face. Have you ever had a funny one
out there?
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Yeah, there's been a few times. Williams come up to
me and just been like, just off the cuff, just
random stuff. like I'll give up a base hit and
he'll just be giving me time or something. And, you know,
he comes up and he's just like, I'm all worried
about the game. And all of a sudden William comes
up and was like, Hey, what are you doing later
(40:29):
tonight for dinner? Like, you want to go to dinner somewhere?
It's like, dude, we're, this is a fifth inning. Like
we got one out. We got to figure out how
to get out of this. Like dude doesn't care. He's
not worried about it. So it's fun.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
How often do you change signs during a game?
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I mean, before Pitchcom, like, I mean, yeah, you'd do
it probably two or three times in a game. You know,
guys were getting on base a lot, you know, especially
at second base. So now with Pitchcom, never. You know,
Willie's back there pushing buttons.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Could you just do it without him?
Speaker 5 (41:06):
What do you mean? Without Pitchcom? Yeah, that you just pitch,
you just call your own game. No, no, I would
overthink it and I'd be a mental wreck out there
on the mound because I'm not already. No, it would
be a different ballgame. I couldn't do it. I need
William back there to guide me through.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Do you apologize to batters if you hit them?
Speaker 9 (41:31):
No.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
It depends. Obviously, if you accidentally ride one up and
in and it catches a guy pretty high, sure, I'll
apologize for that. Send over a nice bottle of bourbon
or do something to apologize. Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
You'll buy somebody a bottle of liquor if you accidentally
hit them?
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Yeah, and if I hit a guy in the head
or something, yeah, that's like, hey, I'm sorry, this is
on me. I hope we don't have no hard feelings.
It wasn't on purpose. If I'm getting a guy in
an arm, shoulder... whatever, you know, but I think I
draw the line at like about neck up, you know,
(42:13):
you kind of, you kind of, you kind of feel bad.
You're like, ah, shit.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
Like, but if you're buzzing the tower, then I'm going
to have a problem with you. If I'm the opposing team.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Yeah, exactly. And I'm trying to mitigate that and be like, Hey, look,
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Do this on purpose, but you bought somebody a bottle
of alcohol.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
I did. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
It was, uh, it was a guy with the Rockies.
Why am I blanking on his name? I did it.
It was this year. I accidentally, uh, a heater got
away from me and I, I, he kind of ducked.
It clipped him in the back of the head. It
clipped the helmet. Um, but no, I felt awful. I was, uh,
And so after the game, yeah, I ran into the clubhouse.
I was like, hey, can we send a bottle over
(42:57):
and apologize?
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Tyler Freeman?
Speaker 5 (42:59):
There you go, yes. So it was one of the
situations where I, like, it was getting late in the game.
I was getting tired, and the ball just slipped. And,
you know, I felt bad. Just never want to do
that to a guy. And, you know, that's my way
of saying sorry. Like, it wasn't on purpose. Hope we're
all good.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
98-mile-an-hour fastball.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Yeah, not fun. Damn.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Have you been hit by 100 miles?
Speaker 5 (43:23):
No, no, and I plan to never be hit by 100.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Unless it's a comebacker.
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Yeah, I did get hit in the shin by, it
was Suzuki, actually, that hit a little one-hopper into my
shin at 110, so that was fun.
Speaker 6 (43:38):
Great to talk to you. Congrats for your success, and
good luck in the postseason.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
All right, that's Jacob Mizorowski. He's the other Miz.
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