June 10, 2026 • 46 mins
Everyone’s teenage years are awkward, but they’re a whole lot messier when you add in some slime. Daniella Monet, best known from her time on Nickelodeon’s Victorious, is here and ready to go way back!
Daniella is a fellow Valley girl who got her start in commercials, and as a young entrepreneur, she made money highlighting hair, piercing ears, and bedazzling anything she could get her hands on.
As she gets ready to return to the character that made her famous, they explore her Victorious roots, and what it’s been like watching co-stars Ariana Grande and Leon Thomas become superstars.
Plus, a whole lotta mall talk, on an all-new Teen Beat!
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's okay because no one here is.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hello. It's your host, Danielle Fischell, and it is time
to catch TB. Oh, that sounds just awful. TB is
clearly tuberculosis. But this is Team Beat, a podcast where
we high dive into the deep end of a pool
filled with the awkward truths of childhood. Every week I
sit with interesting people who've done interesting things, knowing that
(00:50):
by sharing these tales of shame and commiserating in the
journey of youth, we learn just a little bit more
about who we are today. I see it like this,
I gave you my childhood, It's time we hear yours.
But this week I'm talking to a fellow former child
actor who knows exactly what it's like to have your
growing pains and puberty documented for public consumption. An actress
(01:15):
whose Hollywood career began at the ripe age of seven,
debuting in the type of embarrassing commercials that seven year
olds get cast in. She then transitioned to big girl
TV shows on shows like Eight Simple Rules, Zoe one
oh one, and the Sweet Life of Zach and Cody.
But it was her time as Trina Vega on Nickelodeon's
(01:36):
Victorious that would shine a spotlight that's about to be
reignited for a brand new spinoff she will star in
and produce ten years later. Now that's a predicament I
know a little bit about. She was an integral part
of a y two k young talent pool that have
all branched out into their own lanes running Hollywood and families.
(01:58):
As my guest now also has two beautiful young children
of her own. So this week, auntieen Bet, it's actress, singer, entrepreneur,
and the pride of West Hills, California. It's Daniellamone.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Hello, what's the infamous?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
We have so many things in common, apparently valley kids,
but also you have two kids, one born in twenty
nineteen and one born in twenty twenty. Was at You're unreal, unbelievable,
so so funny, about to be seven and about to
be found Oh my gosh, I just yeah, my daughter
just turned five and my son's about to be seven. Man. Yeah,
(02:37):
what a time to be alive.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And feels exactly that. Yeah, there's a lot of things
going on, a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know how you feel with your kids ages,
but I finally feel like the sun has come out
a little bit. There's time for I have, I have
time to get dressed.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I'm morning breathing myself a little bev like we're living again.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I didn't realize how I have been for the five
years with two especially, and now I'm like, we're gonna
make it.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yes, And it also feels like, kind of at the
same time, like I'm dipping my toe back into like work,
which I took myself very far out of for at
least five years.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So it just feels like a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Of things are feeling normal ish again. Yeah, and there's
some time for you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
You love what you want to do, what you're good at.
I'm so excited about that. So did you enjoy growing
up a valley girl? I grew up just next door
to you in West Hills, I was in Calabasas. Did
you love the valley? Do you still love the valley?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I have so much appreciation for it.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
In fact, when we were talking earlier about how like
when you meet someone who grew up in the same
area as you, you feel like this kindred connection right away,
and I, yeah, I'm really proud of like where we
where we came up.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know, it's a good spot.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
It's it's I don't know, how do you even describe
the valley like it's La but not correct at all.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
No, not, It's like it's like if La and Orange
County had a baby and that baby was well, it's
probably purple. I was gonna say, I was going to
say more blue.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, sure, And and lots of public schools, like it's
not like fancy. I wouldn't say, well, there are fancy places.
We're fancy adjacent, yeah, but like normal.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah ish heels a little normal ish ish, but I
I yeah, I'm a I'm a valley kid through and through,
and I'm happy to be raising my kids there. Meantil
both my kids are in public school. I went to
public school too. It's pretty great. Well, I'm really thankful
that you're here for many reasons, but it also means
I get to introduce a new feature here on tenB
(04:41):
where I ask my guest, did you go to the
to pangam All?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
To pangam All?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I just did, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I'm sure the heck did.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I love the mall.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
It's had very many iterations since the mall that I
frequented as a kid, okay, and also not to be
like going off on a tangent. But the AMC is
another world now too, which is really sad. On the
other side of the Twingle Mall, I know that whole
place is I don't know, really happening. I almost like,
can't go in that area quite yet until it's like finished,
and then I'll accept it for what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Well, good luck. I think we're going to be working
on that area for a solid twelve more years. Yeah,
but I I might. Some of my favorite memories are
actually at the Promenade mall.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That's I'm talking about. Course, the promenade was where it's at.
That's where you got dropped off if you were allowed exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
My friends were like, no, I was allowed to get
dropped off in well, not at the movie theater, but
at the mall for on weekends with my best friend,
and we would get vanilla ice blendeds at that coffee
bean that was there, and then we'd walk to Victoria's
Secret and play with lip glosses and sprays and try
on bras we had no business of course pink yeah
everything pink, yes, exactly. And now I mean I at
(05:51):
one time before it literally was. They now have torn
them all down over there, But before they tore it down,
I went in and like looked through the windows, and
they had allowed the plants to just fully. It was
a I've never seen the inside of a completely abandoned
all weird. Yeah, the plants were taking over. Oh it
was rather scary. But those were really good times.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They sure were.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And then you grew up and we went to the Commons,
which I'm sure is in your backyard now, like yes, is.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But again talk about things that have changed. That Sinclair
gas station used to be a Chevron, Lovies used to be.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
A red Robin.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I grew French fries, I mean in the happy Birthday song.
I went there every year on my birthday. And then
also Ruby's Diner at the mall that were rubies.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Why was it five cent fivecent something?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
They had five gumballs five cent gumballs. And they also
had skinny fry.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Do you remember when they introduced skinny fry.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But they weren't just skinny in size, they were like
made with supposedly some healthier oil that they tried to
market these prizes being healthy for you. It wouldn't have
stopped me anyway for meeting them. Why don't we have
a great Ruby's Diner anymore?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know, it's weird.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I saw this thing recently with Pizza Hut. Have you
seen what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Oh, it's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It's their basically taking all the existing Pizza Hut locations
that are essentially just like takeout joints now and like
reversing it back to the nineties and doing like tables
with like the checker table and the nice like I'm there.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm there for kids to grow up the way we do.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay, we'll take our kids there, let's go together.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
All the gen Z's listening, They're like, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Move on, like whatever. Also, people aren't from the valley. Sorry,
just give the first seven minutes of this interview.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's worth a visit.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Okay, let's talk a little bit about Daniella, the young kid.
Were you always performative?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah? Unfortunately, I know the feeling.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah. Did you used to perform for your family in
the kitchen of course?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Everywhere?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, singing, dancing, Hm. Okay, So we mentioned that we
both have kids, Yes, born in the same years. And
I'm always so interested in the little like how they
pick things up like what sparks their interest? Because then
I think what was it for me that sparked my
interest in things? Like my youngest is very into pro wrestling.
(08:06):
Oh he lives for it, okay really, and my oldest
is very into baseball. Okay, what was your thing as
a kid.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Well, I think, unfortunately, I just love attention. There's really
no like special answer there. I just think I liked
make people laugh, and if I felt like they were entertained,
I was winning. I briefly remember dipping my toe into
Golden Performing Arts.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Do you remember that at all?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
No? It was like a theater company that did like
you know, community theater, but at the time it was
like a big deal.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And I remember.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Feeling what it felt like to get like that instant
gratification from an audience. And that was the first time
I think I realized this is I've actually never said
this before, but I think I'm connecting Like that was
the first time I realized what having an audience and
feeling that sense of like oh I hit it or
I nailed it or whatever, that feeling of so alive
and present. Yes, there was no going back for me.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, that was the moment. The little light bulb went
off where you were like, yeah, this feedback loop. I
put something out and you give me something in return. Well,
I mean to imagine that. It just it ended up
shaping your entire.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Light It really did.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
You didn't wait long to get your parents to start
driving you to auditions in that one oh one, so
graphic boy, how were you able to convince them to
do this at seven years old?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Gosh, good question. Well, if I'm being honest, my mom wanted.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
To be an actress, Okay, so that absolutely.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
She didn't have the opportunity, so she was really supportive.
And yeah, I mean I think, like anything else, like
it ran its course and it was a lot of
work for our parents.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It was so much work.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So when I got my license and I was able
to do it on my own and I made the
choice that I was like still interested at that point,
I think there was like a slight weight lifted off them.
But also like you know, a morning of that chapter
to get because there's a lot of time in the car,
you're invested in this process together. Yeah, Yeah, there's a
lot of yeah, fond memories of just like the free Way,
(10:10):
like yeah, looking at the Thomas Guide.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Sorry, guys.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I'm sold no the Thomas Hide. I have one framed.
I have a Thomas guy framed in Yeah with a
little silver star at the spot of where No Boy
Meets World started, where Disney Studios is. I got one
for writer and Will because we all used the Thomas
Guide to get around and it was our job to
sit in the passenger seat and seven I was ten,
(10:34):
so I was also in the back and you'd figure
out where mom was going trying to read a map.
But also one of my favorite mom stories is that
if I started to fall asleep, she'd yell to me,
sleep with your head against the window because she wanted
to be in the carpool lane and she was so
worried we were going to get pulled over. So if
I fell asleep, I had to sleep with waiting still
lay my head. Do not tip over this way, tip over.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
This way, lady.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
What a time.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
We also both started in commercials. Oh I had an
agreement with my mom that after my first big national
commercial that she would let me take a little bit
of the money I earned, okay and buy something proxy.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I spent five hundred dollars on a five disc CD player.
Could you do you remember though?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I could hear LFO right now.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
This is basically just a throwball.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
We are ancient. Do you remember what what was your like?
Did your parents let me make money? Okay, so funny story.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I was very money motivated as a kid, so my
acting money I barely cared about because I was.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Slinging whatever I could.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Oh you were had, oh girl, I had garage sales
almost like weekly. I used to make clothes so closed
Swarasky crystals where everything, So I would rhinestone pretty much
anything you had.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I could do that.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
At one point pretended that I knew how to pierce ears.
I had a line with my neighbors. My mom was
a hairdresser worked out of our house and had like
a little salon in the garage, and I would do
highlights by the way, if you needed any acrylics. I
figured out what the drama real quick Sally's Beauty Store
for some powder.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Girl, it was nuts.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
What did you pierce people with? You were pretending? Did
you just have a potato a sewing needle and a
potato behind like parent trap?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What else?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Unbelievable? What were you and you were color coloring air
and people were letting you.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
They were like playing my own hair to start javeny
pictures of that, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, I'm going to need a picture of them.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah and uh and then would like venture, Yeah, I
would do like a few little highlights of my friend's hair,
Like I watched enough.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I was so observant growing up. I'm like, I can
do that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Also, could I still give you some? Could you still
be dazzle things? Because I'd love to give you some.
I'm all into it again.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I mean, to be honest, I have the focus of
a two year old at this point. My poor daughter's like, mom,
come color with me, and you have to sit still.
And I'm like, okay, let me just take the trash
out and put the clothes.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
In the dryer.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I know. You know what it's you forget there's too
many tabs opened. Oh, we have too many tabs open
in the brain all time. So I understand because I
also go to sit down and connect with my kids,
and while they're doing that, my brain is like, I
forgot to put the transfer of the clothes. I need
to take that trash out. It's overflowing. One. Why are
there's so many crumbs under my feet? Easy to get
(13:31):
very overstimulated. Yes, okay, so you had a bunch of
hustles and you were making you just were like income streams,
yeah everywhere. What did you spend the money on or you.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Probably reinvested in if I'm being honest, I remember next
s Martin finally buy chocolate bars and.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Going door to door. Those aren't cheap when you get
the big sizes. Okay, I know, I know. What did
I spend money on?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I was a really thrifty girl as a kid, I
mean ross and that sort of thing was like my style.
So yeah, I would try to find like name brands there. Okay,
what else did I spend money on?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I remember your friend moved out early.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Oh I moved out early, so I got myself well
relatively early. I moved out when I was seventeen, and
I bought a place in calabasas a condo. Right, so
needed all the money for that.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So smart, smarter than I was.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, except it was two thousand and six and then
the market crashed, so we learned a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, we learned a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Right, So the timing, yeah, I mean could have been better,
but really smart that you were like, Okay, moving out,
gonna save all this money for a house.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah in a car.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I did get myself a nice little sigh on TC
with some subs in the back.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Oh this up, hear me coming around the corner. I
love that. What were you listening to?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Oh gosh, you know I'm kind of like a hip
hop girly a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Wow, we're very similar. Yeah, it was BALI is the valie.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I know.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's so embarrassing and also amazing. I don't ever want
to change. Some of my kids little girlfriends show up
to parties with makeup on. They're very into fancy dresses,
little high heels, and it reminds me that when I
was in elementary school, my best friend and I desperately
wanted to wear lipstick, and our moms were both absolutely
(15:14):
that's an absolute no from us. And then when we
started walking to school alone, we realized that, like on
the walk, they don't know what happens. So one day
my best friend walked out of her house. I showed
up at her door to we walked alone. So I
met her at her door. She came out and she
her mom's like behind her She's like, by, have a
good day. She's like, by mom, And she turns around
(15:36):
and she pulls out of her pocket a lipstick and
I'm like, oh my gosh. And Jessica starts walking toward
me and she takes the cap off, Oh my gosh,
like a mouth, puts red lipstick all over her mouth
and I'm like, whoa. I'm so excited for my turn,
And within seconds, Jessica's mom appears at the back of
the door. Jessica, you forgot your lunch. Oh no, Jessa's
(15:57):
just looking at me her back to her mom like
this crimin and I'm like, oh, oh, get it, like
going up there, and she said, Jessica, what are you
doing Jessco's and turns around. Of course, we were immediately
busted in massive trouble. Take that off, Give that to me.
Why are you taking my lipstick?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Were you into all of that stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I was definitely so. My weapon at that age was
an eyelash curler. Loved an eyelash curler. That was probably
the first tool I fell in love with. I remember
for Barbie commercial auditions, I got to curl my eyelashes
because like big eye.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh yeah, those big dough eyes for Barbie.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Outside of that, yeah, I mean that was pretty much
my thing. I would wear a little gloss. And it's
funny now because my daughter is so in to make
up and my approach has been pretty chill.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yep, okay, so yourself.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, I'm just gonna like let it kind of do
its thing, and like, you know, teach her how to
do it, like show her what kind of colors look
good on her. So it's not like, you know, like
dark crazy. Yeah, but like if she wants to play
a little, I'm okay with it because I don't know,
I'm just like worried that if I'm like absolutely not
that we're going to have the sneaking around and then
you know, so.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
That's our approach right now. And she's so cute.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
She'll do like gloss and you know, she'll put a
little cheek on and I'm like just rub it in,
you know, and yeah, she using creams or using a
cream at this point.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, it's so cute.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
She into Sephora because I hear all the girls love.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but like she has
a mom who doesn't know much about anything.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So I'm not.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I mean, I uh, curler.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Still, I was gonna say, you you know a lot
about a lot of things. I don't know the first
thing about acrylics or I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Those days are over. I'm exhausted. I retired so early.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Okay, all right, I'm happy to hear that, because I
don't know how you're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It, truthfully.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
So a few years after you start doing commercials, you
start popping up in TV shows like eight Simple Rules
Bernie Mack, but most predominantly Listen Up Jason Alexander and
this was I had to have been a dream, right,
I mean, the cast is incredible, and now you have
an on set teacher. Yes, you're living the life. Did
you love it?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I loved it? Oh, I loved it.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Any excuse if I'm being one hundred percent honest, any
excuse to get out of school?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I was like Sun me yes, And on set school
is not quite the same.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
No, I mean some set teachers are better than others.
I'm sure you've had.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Your experience and were great. Okay, they were very dedicated.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Oh love that, But also it's the experience too, Like,
for instance, on Listen Up, I was the only kid,
so I was like Hey, I got to go back
to the bungalow on twentieth Century Fox and sit by
myself and try to get my hours in.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
But no, for the most part, like.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I just loved I loved working specifically sitcom, So I
caught that bug pretty early.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Again, that audience. You had a life studio at Hace.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
The audience.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yes, most of the shows I did initially were all
audience And now I feel like that's kind of like
an anomaly.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It is gave made them an excuse to not need audiences.
They were like, Hey, yeah, we just laughers. Laughers, I know,
twelve people pay me to laugh at the jokes.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yes, and now you're lucky you even have those. Now
we're like everyone in video village laugh exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I know, laugh loud. I also know the late Malcolm
Jamal Warner was on that show with you, and he
knew what being a child actor was all about, was
what was working with him, Like he was a gem.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
He's special guy.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
What I loved most about him was that you knew
he had grown up in this business, but like he
was not a typical actor in that way, like so
humble and kind and kind of introverted too. Yeah, really sweet,
sweet man and great for someone like me because it
was my first series, so at least I had worked
(19:57):
with him, being a child actor himself, Jason, who had
been so much television at that point, I just felt
like really supported.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Oh what a great first experience there to have, like,
you know, tent poles around you, you know, of class
and excellency. Yeah. So thrown into the mix, here are
kid shows like Zoe one oh one, I, Carly Sweet Life,
the Nancy Drew movie, Yes so good, the best books ever,
the best books, and my aunt had all of the
like original one. Oh, I love them so much. Okay,
(20:28):
so you're at this point you're circling the Disney universe.
Yes it, and I know you sing as well? What
was being a triple threat Disney kid?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Really like woof, well if I'm okay.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
So when I was on Listen Up, I remember the
agents I had at the time, you know, putting me
in the mix for some like bigger stuff, and I
was kind of annoyed because I was like, no, I
want to do Disney and Nickelodeon, Like that's all I
wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So I kind of went.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Behind their backs and got into a general with Disney
through my manager, and that general led to testing for
Hannah Montana within like at least the same day. It's
kind of a blur at this point, but I remember
them saying like, oh, this will be great for you.
You should test for this show. And so that was
like my entry level into like the Disney universe. I
had done maybe like some sweet or no, I think
(21:19):
Sweet Life came after.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But yeah, I just loved I loved kids TV.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I was a kid TV consumer at the time, so
I'm like, if I could be on my favorite shows,
that's a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I mean, that's the same thing today.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yep. So that was kind of like my first experience
and it.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Was a rush, like I just yeah, I feel really
grateful I got sucked in.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
That is so fun. I was singing was never on.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
My Oh girl, I don't know why singing's on there,
if I'm being honest, really, yeah, I've had no choice
but to figure it out because at the time, when
when we're when Hannah Montana, for instance, everywhere, they're like,
goh sing and I said, you got it, here we go.
I was watching American Idol at the time, Kelly Clarkson
was a thing, and she said I believe Jeremiah was
a bullfrog, which she did called and that song stuck
(22:04):
in my head and that was what I sang for
the hand of Montana.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Others you had seen this, I said, she sounded great.
I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I love you for that, because I for having all
the confidence in the world, as far as like walking
into a room you saying whatever was on a piece
of paper. The minute somebody told me I needed to sing,
I was like, oh, you're.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The wrong person.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Bye. Everyone. It was nice meeting you, yes, and it's
like not good enough.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Like especially, I feel like we're circling back to that
a little bit, where like that era you had to sing,
like they were like, and now you sing, and I'm like, okay, okay,
I will if you want me to.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's still not that much different. I mean, a girl
makes me wrong now at this point was twelve years ago.
But everyone has to sing in every audition. They were like,
now why don't you sing us?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So I watched the audition, and I've watched the auditions.
I now got an experience, and I'm like, these people
have to sing on top of being good at what
they do and being cute and perfect and now they
got to be singers.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Now also be a yeah, I know it's wild. It
is wild. I admire it so much. There's like somehow
people just think there's like one little gene where you're
good at all these things. Not me, No, no, thank
you you. As you mentioned, you tested for Hannah Montana,
you were in the final three, and we all have
those roles. Oh yeah that got away.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I gotta hear yours because that's like one of my
favorite things to ask people.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, like what did you really want?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Or just like, was there that moment where you thought, Okay,
my life could very much change if this goes my way.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah? I I at one point, early early I was
going to the girl in Free Willie. I wanted that role.
Oh but you're so bad.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
That's crazy because some of these roles you auditioned for
and you have no idea the scope that it'll become.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
But you connected with that. I totally did. And then
I also tested for Eight Simple Rules, and I was like,
I wouldn't I want to do that show? And then
I don't remember what happened, but I think might have
been the audition where No, it was that was a
different show. I tested for another show. It's my weirdest story.
(24:08):
We're in the waiting room of looking at all the
other people who were there to test. There were like
three women there, and then there was another woman testing,
young woman, and she was like really off to the side,
and she was I could just tell that there was
like a very nervous energy and I felt very much
like it was my job to comfort her. I don't
know why. And I started talking to her and it
(24:30):
turns out she's the one who originally booked the role. Oh,
and they shot the pilot with her, were making her
test again against the other people at the same time.
These studios not like, oh, you know what, this is
traumatic enough, We're going to give you your own space
and time. No, she's in the waiting room with the
(24:50):
other people she was testing against. Anyway, Then we left
that audition and she was staying at a hotel nearby.
They flew her back out Wow, And I drove her
back to the hotel and as she was getting out
of the car, both of our phones RNG no, and
we looked down and it was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
it's your manager and she was like yeah. I was like,
it's my manager too, and I was like, I really
(25:10):
hope you get it and she was like thanks. She
got out, she closed the door, and I answered the
phone and they were like, all right, you didn't get it.
And I said, could you please just tell me? Did
the person who get it? Is she the one who
had it originally? And they said no, it was neither.
Oh Man, terrible, like the kind of Hollywood story that
(25:31):
could make you just go take me off the list.
I'm out. I don't want to do it anymore still,
and yeah, I just build your character.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And you know what, I've always tried to tell myself
this like crazy narrative that like it's not for me,
it's not like I truly believe.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And I have to.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I will go nuts that I'm being led correct, and
I will only.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Do the jobs that are right for me.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
And because what's yours will never not find you, like one.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Hundred percent, Because for every experience where you think that
that is yours and you build the whole story around
your future and then it goes down the drain, there's
the next one that becomes yours. And even if it's
three years later, you like, this makes so much sense now, Yes.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And how many times have we had experiences where we
think we really want some or even just a friend
that that you you realize like you were there, I
didn't know you were there, and then you still keep
bumping into each other. It's like the universe will find
a way. If it somehow misses you in this angle,
there will be another way. If it's yours, it will
be yours. Yeah, I completely agree, and we have to
we have to tell even if it's not true. Okay,
(26:30):
so Hannah or not, you are working a ton back,
then I have to assume your friends are starting to
be other studio lot kids.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah. Yeah, bit I'm trying to think.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
You know, I was because I don't know if it's
because I grew up out here that I had like
one big foot in reality still and my like one
foot was like pretending to be an actress.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It was like I would come home and I had
a neighborhood full of kids, and like I didn't feel
like I could really talk about like what I did.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yep, So I was kind of just like a normal girl.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And then would go and work and then get sucked
in for that and then come back and be like nah,
it's all good and like jump back into real life. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
In a lot of ways, what you're describing was my
childhood as well. And it's a little like a hand
of Montana. Yes, where you live, dual lives, live little
bit dual lives. I loved going to my regular school, Yes,
with all my friends. My best friends still to this
day are the people I met at twelve years old
at a Wright Yeah and cawday, Like, those are all
my best friends. And I didn't talk a lot about work.
(27:30):
We just talked about you know, boys and homework, tests,
football games, dances, all the normal stuff. And then it
was like, all right, guys, I gotta I'll be back
in three weeks. Yeah, I'm gonna go pop over here
and do this weirdo thing.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah I'm weird. I would just down play it like, yeah,
it's weird.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
It's weird, it's awkward. But then I come back and
then it's all back to normal.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
So who was your little crew, like, if not not
your regular friends, but like your gosh, like, who was
I coming up with a little bit? Who were you
coming up if you did connect with I mean other
celeb kids. Who were they.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I'm trying to think, Oh my goodness, who was it
there was, like trying to think, you know what, I'm
not going to name too many that I was like
close with. I just remember like we would see each
other and it would be cool and freshly like sets. Yeah,
like Emma Roberts was cool. Yeah, we did the movie together.
So I remember hanging out with her in real life
(28:34):
because she lived in Hidden Hills, so I would drive
her sometimes to work.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Amazing, she didn't drive. I don't think at that.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Point, So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I mean trying to think it was not I don't
know if there was many, like big celebrities, but if
I like saw them, it would be very comfortable and cool.
But a lot of kids lived out in Burbank or
the oak Woods at the oak Woods.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And I didn't.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I only really came out for work or auditions. So
it was like we're going to play dates exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
No, it was yeah, and your parents then would have
to make plans to get you together or you'd all
like go we used to go to islands.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh yeah, okay, my mom.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I have millions of photo shoots with random guys that were, uh,
just guest starring on Boy Meets World, and my mom
and his mom would like kick hit it off and
they'd be like, let's all go to islands after this,
and then we'd have like a we would just take
a bunch of pictures in the islands booth like also great.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Fries, Great Fries.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Uh were you boy crazy as a teen? I was.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I was a late bloomer.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Oh okay, I was a very late bloomer.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I thought that I think like I should have been
a boy. Like I was like, I'm gonna hang with
the boys, but like, you can't like.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Me very much the same. I loved all I loved
all guys stuff, like I wanted guy stuff, wanted to
hang out with them, wanted to be around them, thought
about them all the time, but maybe a little, but
wasn't ready to have a boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I was a very late bloomer. Even asked my husband, hoping,
like he's.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Like, she still doesn't like me. We're married to kids.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
It's the opposite. It's like I'm so obsessed with him.
I'm like I'm living a movie.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
He was like a high school quarterback and he had
such a normal life and like his a real job.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I love that for you. What's his normal job?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Well, he went to school to become an accountant, but
now he's in like fintech sales.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
You working at home and make a lot of calls
on the phone.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
We have quiet that's on the phone.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah. For Mother's Day, my son made me a card
and he said that the question one of the questions
was what does mommy do for work? And he said,
make calls in going somewhere. I was like, well, you're
not wrong.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
You're actually lucky you have that perspective because now my
kids are like, they really like you because you're famous.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And I'm like, that's weird. Like, I don't know if
I like that.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Like my son said to me yesterday, Ah, why do
all these people want to take your picture?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah? And the yes, Yes, that is a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Sorry. One of your victorious co stars, Leon Thomas, home
American Music Award for Breakthrough R and B Artist and
even shouted out his Nickelodeon fans in his acceptance speech.
Is his success in music a surprise to you?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Not at all?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
He I think if I know, like he and Arianna
used to work together on music, so like in the
early days, yes.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Was like so gifted.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I mean that whole cast, like it honestly always feels
like a fever dream that I was even part of
it because each one was more successful than the next
and so gifted.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
And I know, you guys have really all grown up
to be very cool.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Oh like that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Not a lot of shows can say that, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, yeah, I feel lucky in that, like we generally
are speaking, all have some sort of like connection still.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And like you know how jobs are.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
It's like you become a family in two seconds and
the second they call cut or rap, you're like, I'm
going to see you next week and we can't be aptired,
I love you and then nothing. Yeah, but with Victorious
there's something different, like we're bonded in a really cool way,
and even if we're not like hanging out all the time,
like I love them.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I love each and every.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
One of them and I will absolutely always be their
biggest fan.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
That's so sweet, you guys shot at the Nickelodeon studio
on sunset. It's a bit of a landmark now that
sadly I know longer exists, but at any given moment,
there were a handful of kid shows filming all at once.
Could you give me any good Nickelodeon lot stories, like yes, oh.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I'm thinking of one.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I don't even remember why, but Justin Bieber came and
did a little thing with us, and I remember where
my dressing room was. It was me, Victoria and Avin
on one wing, and then Ari, Liz and Leon had
like another wing, and I think Matt was over there
as well.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Trying to picture it.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Anyways, they took over whose room was, I think maybe Avan's,
and gave him Justin like like his own dressing room,
which was right across from Mere Oh yeah is yeah,
so like Ari and I like all the girls are
just like going nuts, and we're like sitting in the
dressing room and like now no longer says Avan's name,
it says Justin Bieber.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Like we're in Justin Bieber's dressing room like a.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Thousand times before.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I'm little and cute there, Like it's not even the
Justin Bieber we know now, but at the time he
was still just as be.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Delicious amazing to have this many decades of Bieber fever
bieber fever. I know, yeah, what a cute you know.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
There was great experiences, like we overlapped I think with
I Carly at one point, so we did a movie
together and like that was fun. Like it's always fun
when you are with the same people all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's like when you get a script and you're like,
there's a guest star, this week's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It was always it. He's cute.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Well that too that Yeah, it's like built in dating
services for everyone.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Exactly. I'm going to assume that this is a yes,
have you been slimed?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Oh? Yes, multiple times?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Tell me about that experience.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
The first time it was a novel, I just thought,
no way, my childhood dreams like coming true.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Complete.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
We're done, I can be, we can act yet, we're good,
bucket list done.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And then you.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Get slimmed a number of times and you're realizing, wow.
And we would do these game shows where you might
get slimed on the first show, but you have like
two more that you're shooting in that same day, and
now you're running to like whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
The little pop up tent.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Trailer situation for the shower is have to reset, go
through hair and makeup, and turn around for the next
episode just to get slimed again and do it all
over again.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Oh my gosh. Okay, so it goes from being like
the number one thing on my bucket list checked off too.
If you slim me one.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
We're done so well.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I am not taking these individuals off one more time.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
You said hard to get out of your hair.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's no.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I just remember it being like almost like Elmer's glue.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I forgot because we've had to use it. They use
it all the time in movies and stuff. It's whatever
that is. It's safe. I think you can.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I would not.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I wouldn't try that. Yeah, I got. I had to
be covered honey once on an episode of Boy Meets
World and the only thing I remember about the literally
covered in honey in front of a bear. Oh my god,
don't remember anything about that. I do remember that washing
my hair was annoying. That's the memories like getting honey.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Oh you like you have the hair of like a lifetime,
Thank you very much. I dreamt of having hair like you.
At one point in my life. I dreamt of being you.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
You have gorgeous hair. You don't need anyone else's hair.
It's just gorgeous. But allow me to tell you about
beefree by Daniel Fishall you say, my hair, hair, Caroline,
I'll send it to you.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I'll be a customer.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh no, I'll send it to you and if you
love it, then the best reward is you being a customer.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That's definitely me.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
On my other podcast, Pod Meets World, we have been
rewatching our show as adults and we have run into
what I've called hindsight problems. These are means or motifs
or instances that seem problematic in twenty twenty six, but
at the time as kids, it was just sort of
this unspoken job that we had to keep quiet and
(36:10):
do what's in the script. I know Victorious has this
problem occasionally now too, and I've wondered, how do you
perceive it now that you're in your thirties.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
How much time do we have? You know?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I have like kind of a rose colored glasses approach
to it all.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It's just that like I.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Grew up in this business, and jokes that were funny
then might not feel the same now, And things that
like I was in a situation with at one point
may feel uncomfy now. But like it's all perspective and
you know it is what it is. The show has
such a special place in my heart, and that time
of my life was like a really like big growth
(36:53):
period for all of us, and so in a lot
of ways, like I just couldn't imagine not having through that.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. I don't remember.
Sure were there moments where things were like this is weird?
Like I do definitely remember thinking is this weird? And
then you just move on and and those moments are
not things that I feel like have permanently scarred me.
I could I look back on the time and think
everyone has something to Anyone has their things totally yours
(37:24):
were just preserved on television and now the Internet for
everyone to witness. But you don't go through life unscathed
or without having uncomfortable experiences or being put in situations
that now you'd go, I wouldn't want anybody putting my
kid in that situation. But like, no one gets through
it unscathed. So you also worked closely with arguably the
(37:48):
first ever YouTube star to cross over to mainstream, Fred Figglehorn.
Most people didn't even know what YouTube was back then,
and you were on his TV shows, in his movies,
then his unrelated Nick show later on. Did anyone back
then think YouTube would become what it has become?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Gosh, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I mean it was news to me kind of because
I must have missed a little bit of that YouTube
like startup culture. Yeah, And I just remember the buzz
around this kid and how like found to earth. He
was like he was just a kid that figured it
out early and had a niche and he leaned in
and people loved it. And that's what happens nowadays. It's
(38:30):
just now so much more multiplied. And I don't know
if we knew back then like what YouTube would become.
But I'm really in a way like grateful that YouTube
exists because I don't know if you heard this a
lot growing up, but I sure did.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Where I was like, how do I become an actress?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
And I'm like, now, you guys like you actually have
so much more power than I did. I had to
commute to a room, present myself, like hope that they
would like me enough to give me a chance, and
then hope that that would like open doors.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
It's just it's such a different process now.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Absolutely. Also, you can become a success by being authentically
you totally, instead of trying to put yourself into the
mold of a character or something that somebody else wants.
That like, we're all craving more authenticity and seeing more
of it, and so yeah, the power kids have today
that we just couldn't have even dreamed of. Do you
(39:25):
still keep in touch with Fred?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I haven't talked to him in years. I was actually, yeah,
I didn't even I'm sure he's doing well. I think
he probably was like, I'm good with this. I made
my money young, I'm going to go live my life.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm happy for him. What do you
think if you had the power of YouTube at your
fingertips when you were a kid and hearing all about
your side hustles, what do you think you would have
made your niche YouTube career out of What would you
focused on? Question?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Well, would I have focused on? Probably?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I mean I was such a spice girl, stand like,
I would probably just have an entire account on like
lip syncing to every song and making some silly choreography up,
and that would just be it.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
That would be the end.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'd love to see you as like a whole series
on what your sixth spice girl? Like, you know what
I mean it is, you're like the sixth and so
you see the opening, they're all, name who would you
have been? What? What girl would you have been?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well? I uh okay, let me think. Hold on chefy spice.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Oh I love chefy spice. Yeah, Like she's just gonna
chef it up. She's gonna cook you something up.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yes, We're always gonna be sometimes it's drama.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, you just never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
So now this is something I know a little bit about.
You are about to step back into the role of
Trina Vega ten years later for a Victorious spinoff, Hollywood
Arts on Netflix. Yeah, you'll be surrounded by a whole
new generation of stars. How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Man, Yeah, I was pretty emotional, to be honest, Like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
If you felt that way.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It was a long time coming. Like I think, you know,
the show left us kind of open for something fresh
and new and exciting. And I'm so grateful for the
audience that, like, we're such big supporters of Victorious to
allow us to do something like this, Because if there
wasn't a fandom like nowadays, you can't sell anything, So
(41:30):
we're lucky that we had that so that we can
like make a show that we think they'll love. And
it feels really pretty amazing. Like when I said, you know,
I felt like at some point I was like an
observer of the Victorious cast, Like I was just happy
to be there and I couldn't believe that I got
to be a part of it. I still feel that way.
So the fact that like I'm now in this spin
off and in a way like on my own outside
(41:54):
of that original cast.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Is wild to me.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
But I don't think I would have done it if
I didn't have their support. That was like number one
for me.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Did you have all those conversations yefore going into the meetings.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Yeah, it was a wild experience because there was talk
of it. For you know how things are. It's like
it's an idea for a while, and then it becomes
sort of closer to being a real thing, and then
it stops, and then you're like, yeah, it's not happening,
and then one day it like light Bulb was like yep,
we're gonna announce that it's gonna happen, and I was
like no, no, no, no, no, wait, hold on, I got
to talk to everyone, like this can't be like announced
(42:26):
without me having a conversation with everyone. I couldn't imagine
them finding this out and not in the being from me.
And so they were like, okay, literally they said, we'll
give you twenty four hours, but we're going to announce
that this is going to get greenlit.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
And I went, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
I was on my phone like all of that day,
like calling voice messaging, like sending text, like trying to
explain like this has kind of been happening, but like
I didn't think it would actually happen, and now it's
gonna happen, like I'm lost and I just need you
guys to know and hear it from me, and like
I want to hear what your thoughts are. And every
single response, being the longest, was like so heartfelt and
(43:03):
so supportive and like yeah, to this day, I'm like, god,
I wish like I'm not a voice memo keeper, but
I'm like, man, I wish I would have kept those
because the words were like so real, things like this
is your chance to like make Nickelodeon like what it
was for us growing up, like come back to like
where we began, and like it was just really really sweet.
(43:24):
So I hope I did that.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
I love that. I'm so excited for you. Yeah, thank you.
Did you ever I mean you said it's been in
talks for a long time, But could you have imagined
back when you were on the show, did you ever
see this being no? The thing that was? No?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Not at all?
Speaker 3 (43:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Maybe I have like a little imposter syndrome, but like
I was just happy to be there, Like I never
thought that like it could come back, and then I could,
you know, be the one to be and bring a
spin off Like that's nuts.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
So sweet. Yeah. Have you been surprised by how much
you see yourself in the young girls in the cast?
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Oh my gosh, do you say a little bit?
Speaker 2 (44:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
They make girls different nowadays. Okay, they are way cooler,
So in that regard, I think there's a bit of
a disconnection.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
They're so mature and so cool.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
And you know what I said about this experience that's
like just different than any experience I've been in, is
that people have so much more self awareness.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
I thought that I was mature.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
And confident, but I think a lot of it was
just a front, Like I was just trying to figure
it out and get by and like it till you
make fake it till that was more my narrative. Theirs
is like authenticity, self awareness, like good communication. And that
was really important for me because I want us to
be like this and I and I think, like, you know,
(44:51):
I got to come in as now like a EP,
which is so wild for me. But I think the
biggest part of that role for me is being somewhat
of like modeling best practices because this is for a
lot of them is their first show. A lot of
them it was their first table read, which was nuts.
So seeing them just be such good humans and like
(45:13):
come together as such good humans, I'm like Shet's kiss.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yes, That's exactly how I felt too. It's like modeling
what it means to be a professional on stage and
to do this work and to have boundaries and to
take care of yourself and to you know, take care
of your fellow actress and to you know, all of
that was like the thing I was the most excited. Yes,
and to be able to model kudos to you that
(45:38):
you can start out very young in this industry and
still be in it. This many decades later and still
be happy and still be thriving and have a good, happy, normal,
successful life. Yeah, and that that can be their future too.
So very excited for you, Thanks lucky for me. Danielle
stuck around for a bonus team beat that will air
(46:00):
this Friday on our dedicated feed. We get into so
much more about her life and upcoming return to the
Victorious universe. Plus we hear from a dear listener willing
to share their own embarrassment in order to make us
feel better. And remember to check out teenbeatpod dot com
for Teenbeatmarch. Teenbeat is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted
by Danielle Fischel. Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman,
(46:23):
Executive in charge of production Danielle Romo, producer and editor
Tara Sudbach. The theme song is by mar Coppus. Yes
that Mark Coppus. Follow us on Instagram at teenbeatpod
That's all.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's okay because no one here is.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hello. It's your host, Danielle Fischell, and it is time
to catch TB. Oh, that sounds just awful. TB is
clearly tuberculosis. But this is Team Beat, a podcast where
we high dive into the deep end of a pool
filled with the awkward truths of childhood. Every week I
sit with interesting people who've done interesting things, knowing that
(00:50):
by sharing these tales of shame and commiserating in the
journey of youth, we learn just a little bit more
about who we are today. I see it like this,
I gave you my childhood, It's time we hear yours.
But this week I'm talking to a fellow former child
actor who knows exactly what it's like to have your
growing pains and puberty documented for public consumption. An actress
(01:15):
whose Hollywood career began at the ripe age of seven,
debuting in the type of embarrassing commercials that seven year
olds get cast in. She then transitioned to big girl
TV shows on shows like Eight Simple Rules, Zoe one
oh one, and the Sweet Life of Zach and Cody.
But it was her time as Trina Vega on Nickelodeon's
(01:36):
Victorious that would shine a spotlight that's about to be
reignited for a brand new spinoff she will star in
and produce ten years later. Now that's a predicament I
know a little bit about. She was an integral part
of a y two k young talent pool that have
all branched out into their own lanes running Hollywood and families.
(01:58):
As my guest now also has two beautiful young children
of her own. So this week, auntieen Bet, it's actress, singer, entrepreneur,
and the pride of West Hills, California. It's Daniellamone.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Hello, what's the infamous?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
We have so many things in common, apparently valley kids,
but also you have two kids, one born in twenty
nineteen and one born in twenty twenty. Was at You're unreal, unbelievable,
so so funny, about to be seven and about to
be found Oh my gosh, I just yeah, my daughter
just turned five and my son's about to be seven. Man. Yeah,
(02:37):
what a time to be alive.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
And feels exactly that. Yeah, there's a lot of things
going on, a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I don't know how you feel with your kids ages,
but I finally feel like the sun has come out
a little bit. There's time for I have, I have
time to get dressed.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I'm morning breathing myself a little bev like we're living again.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I didn't realize how I have been for the five
years with two especially, and now I'm like, we're gonna
make it.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yes, And it also feels like, kind of at the
same time, like I'm dipping my toe back into like work,
which I took myself very far out of for at
least five years.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So it just feels like a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Of things are feeling normal ish again. Yeah, and there's
some time for you.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
You love what you want to do, what you're good at.
I'm so excited about that. So did you enjoy growing
up a valley girl? I grew up just next door
to you in West Hills, I was in Calabasas. Did
you love the valley? Do you still love the valley?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I have so much appreciation for it.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
In fact, when we were talking earlier about how like
when you meet someone who grew up in the same
area as you, you feel like this kindred connection right away,
and I, yeah, I'm really proud of like where we
where we came up.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know, it's a good spot.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
It's it's I don't know, how do you even describe
the valley like it's La but not correct at all.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
No, not, It's like it's like if La and Orange
County had a baby and that baby was well, it's
probably purple. I was gonna say, I was going to
say more blue.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, sure, And and lots of public schools, like it's
not like fancy. I wouldn't say, well, there are fancy places.
We're fancy adjacent, yeah, but like normal.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah ish heels a little normal ish ish, but I
I yeah, I'm a I'm a valley kid through and through,
and I'm happy to be raising my kids there. Meantil
both my kids are in public school. I went to
public school too. It's pretty great. Well, I'm really thankful
that you're here for many reasons, but it also means
I get to introduce a new feature here on tenB
(04:41):
where I ask my guest, did you go to the
to pangam All?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
To pangam All?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I just did, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I'm sure the heck did.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I love the mall.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
It's had very many iterations since the mall that I
frequented as a kid, okay, and also not to be
like going off on a tangent. But the AMC is
another world now too, which is really sad. On the
other side of the Twingle Mall, I know that whole
place is I don't know, really happening. I almost like,
can't go in that area quite yet until it's like finished,
and then I'll accept it for what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Well, good luck. I think we're going to be working
on that area for a solid twelve more years. Yeah,
but I I might. Some of my favorite memories are
actually at the Promenade mall.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That's I'm talking about. Course, the promenade was where it's at.
That's where you got dropped off if you were allowed exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
My friends were like, no, I was allowed to get
dropped off in well, not at the movie theater, but
at the mall for on weekends with my best friend,
and we would get vanilla ice blendeds at that coffee
bean that was there, and then we'd walk to Victoria's
Secret and play with lip glosses and sprays and try
on bras we had no business of course pink yeah
everything pink, yes, exactly. And now I mean I at
(05:51):
one time before it literally was. They now have torn
them all down over there, But before they tore it down,
I went in and like looked through the windows, and
they had allowed the plants to just fully. It was
a I've never seen the inside of a completely abandoned
all weird. Yeah, the plants were taking over. Oh it
was rather scary. But those were really good times.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They sure were.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
And then you grew up and we went to the Commons,
which I'm sure is in your backyard now, like yes, is.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But again talk about things that have changed. That Sinclair
gas station used to be a Chevron, Lovies used to be.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
A red Robin.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I grew French fries, I mean in the happy Birthday song.
I went there every year on my birthday. And then
also Ruby's Diner at the mall that were rubies.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Why was it five cent fivecent something?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
They had five gumballs five cent gumballs. And they also
had skinny fry.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Do you remember when they introduced skinny fry.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But they weren't just skinny in size, they were like
made with supposedly some healthier oil that they tried to
market these prizes being healthy for you. It wouldn't have
stopped me anyway for meeting them. Why don't we have
a great Ruby's Diner anymore?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You know, it's weird.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I saw this thing recently with Pizza Hut. Have you
seen what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Oh, it's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It's their basically taking all the existing Pizza Hut locations
that are essentially just like takeout joints now and like
reversing it back to the nineties and doing like tables
with like the checker table and the nice like I'm there.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm there for kids to grow up the way we do.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Okay, we'll take our kids there, let's go together.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
All the gen Z's listening, They're like, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Move on, like whatever. Also, people aren't from the valley. Sorry,
just give the first seven minutes of this interview.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's worth a visit.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Okay, let's talk a little bit about Daniella, the young kid.
Were you always performative?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah? Unfortunately, I know the feeling.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah. Did you used to perform for your family in
the kitchen of course?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Everywhere?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, singing, dancing, Hm. Okay, So we mentioned that we
both have kids, Yes, born in the same years. And
I'm always so interested in the little like how they
pick things up like what sparks their interest? Because then
I think what was it for me that sparked my
interest in things? Like my youngest is very into pro wrestling.
(08:06):
Oh he lives for it, okay really, and my oldest
is very into baseball. Okay, what was your thing as
a kid.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Well, I think, unfortunately, I just love attention. There's really
no like special answer there. I just think I liked
make people laugh, and if I felt like they were entertained,
I was winning. I briefly remember dipping my toe into
Golden Performing Arts.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Do you remember that at all?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
No? It was like a theater company that did like
you know, community theater, but at the time it was
like a big deal.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And I remember.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Feeling what it felt like to get like that instant
gratification from an audience. And that was the first time
I think I realized this is I've actually never said
this before, but I think I'm connecting Like that was
the first time I realized what having an audience and
feeling that sense of like oh I hit it or
I nailed it or whatever, that feeling of so alive
and present. Yes, there was no going back for me.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, that was the moment. The little light bulb went
off where you were like, yeah, this feedback loop. I
put something out and you give me something in return. Well,
I mean to imagine that. It just it ended up
shaping your entire.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Light It really did.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
You didn't wait long to get your parents to start
driving you to auditions in that one oh one, so
graphic boy, how were you able to convince them to
do this at seven years old?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Gosh, good question. Well, if I'm being honest, my mom wanted.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
To be an actress, Okay, so that absolutely.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
She didn't have the opportunity, so she was really supportive.
And yeah, I mean I think, like anything else, like
it ran its course and it was a lot of
work for our parents.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It was so much work.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So when I got my license and I was able
to do it on my own and I made the
choice that I was like still interested at that point,
I think there was like a slight weight lifted off them.
But also like you know, a morning of that chapter
to get because there's a lot of time in the car,
you're invested in this process together. Yeah, Yeah, there's a
lot of yeah, fond memories of just like the free Way,
(10:10):
like yeah, looking at the Thomas Guide.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Sorry, guys.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I'm sold no the Thomas Hide. I have one framed.
I have a Thomas guy framed in Yeah with a
little silver star at the spot of where No Boy
Meets World started, where Disney Studios is. I got one
for writer and Will because we all used the Thomas
Guide to get around and it was our job to
sit in the passenger seat and seven I was ten,
(10:34):
so I was also in the back and you'd figure
out where mom was going trying to read a map.
But also one of my favorite mom stories is that
if I started to fall asleep, she'd yell to me,
sleep with your head against the window because she wanted
to be in the carpool lane and she was so
worried we were going to get pulled over. So if
I fell asleep, I had to sleep with waiting still
lay my head. Do not tip over this way, tip over.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
This way, lady.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Hilarious.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
What a time.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
We also both started in commercials. Oh I had an
agreement with my mom that after my first big national
commercial that she would let me take a little bit
of the money I earned, okay and buy something proxy.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I spent five hundred dollars on a five disc CD player.
Could you do you remember though?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I could hear LFO right now.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
This is basically just a throwball.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
We are ancient. Do you remember what what was your like?
Did your parents let me make money? Okay, so funny story.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I was very money motivated as a kid, so my
acting money I barely cared about because I was.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Slinging whatever I could.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Oh you were had, oh girl, I had garage sales
almost like weekly. I used to make clothes so closed
Swarasky crystals where everything, So I would rhinestone pretty much
anything you had.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I could do that.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
At one point pretended that I knew how to pierce ears.
I had a line with my neighbors. My mom was
a hairdresser worked out of our house and had like
a little salon in the garage, and I would do
highlights by the way, if you needed any acrylics. I
figured out what the drama real quick Sally's Beauty Store
for some powder.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Girl, it was nuts.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
What did you pierce people with? You were pretending? Did
you just have a potato a sewing needle and a
potato behind like parent trap?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What else?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Unbelievable? What were you and you were color coloring air
and people were letting you.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
They were like playing my own hair to start javeny
pictures of that, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, I'm going to need a picture of them.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah and uh and then would like venture, Yeah, I
would do like a few little highlights of my friend's hair,
Like I watched enough.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I was so observant growing up. I'm like, I can
do that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Also, could I still give you some? Could you still
be dazzle things? Because I'd love to give you some.
I'm all into it again.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I mean, to be honest, I have the focus of
a two year old at this point. My poor daughter's like, mom,
come color with me, and you have to sit still.
And I'm like, okay, let me just take the trash
out and put the clothes.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
In the dryer.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I know. You know what it's you forget there's too
many tabs opened. Oh, we have too many tabs open
in the brain all time. So I understand because I
also go to sit down and connect with my kids,
and while they're doing that, my brain is like, I
forgot to put the transfer of the clothes. I need
to take that trash out. It's overflowing. One. Why are
there's so many crumbs under my feet? Easy to get
(13:31):
very overstimulated. Yes, okay, so you had a bunch of
hustles and you were making you just were like income streams,
yeah everywhere. What did you spend the money on or you.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Probably reinvested in if I'm being honest, I remember next
s Martin finally buy chocolate bars and.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Going door to door. Those aren't cheap when you get
the big sizes. Okay, I know, I know. What did
I spend money on?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I was a really thrifty girl as a kid, I
mean ross and that sort of thing was like my style.
So yeah, I would try to find like name brands there. Okay,
what else did I spend money on?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I remember your friend moved out early.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Oh I moved out early, so I got myself well
relatively early. I moved out when I was seventeen, and
I bought a place in calabasas a condo. Right, so
needed all the money for that.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So smart, smarter than I was.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, except it was two thousand and six and then
the market crashed, so we learned a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, we learned a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Right, So the timing, yeah, I mean could have been better,
but really smart that you were like, Okay, moving out,
gonna save all this money for a house.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah in a car.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I did get myself a nice little sigh on TC
with some subs in the back.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Oh this up, hear me coming around the corner. I
love that. What were you listening to?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Oh gosh, you know I'm kind of like a hip
hop girly a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Wow, we're very similar. Yeah, it was BALI is the valie.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I know.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's so embarrassing and also amazing. I don't ever want
to change. Some of my kids little girlfriends show up
to parties with makeup on. They're very into fancy dresses,
little high heels, and it reminds me that when I
was in elementary school, my best friend and I desperately
wanted to wear lipstick, and our moms were both absolutely
(15:14):
that's an absolute no from us. And then when we
started walking to school alone, we realized that, like on
the walk, they don't know what happens. So one day
my best friend walked out of her house. I showed
up at her door to we walked alone. So I
met her at her door. She came out and she
her mom's like behind her She's like, by, have a
good day. She's like, by mom, And she turns around
(15:36):
and she pulls out of her pocket a lipstick and
I'm like, oh my gosh. And Jessica starts walking toward
me and she takes the cap off, Oh my gosh,
like a mouth, puts red lipstick all over her mouth
and I'm like, whoa. I'm so excited for my turn,
And within seconds, Jessica's mom appears at the back of
the door. Jessica, you forgot your lunch. Oh no, Jessa's
(15:57):
just looking at me her back to her mom like
this crimin and I'm like, oh, oh, get it, like
going up there, and she said, Jessica, what are you
doing Jessco's and turns around. Of course, we were immediately
busted in massive trouble. Take that off, Give that to me.
Why are you taking my lipstick?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Were you into all of that stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I was definitely so. My weapon at that age was
an eyelash curler. Loved an eyelash curler. That was probably
the first tool I fell in love with. I remember
for Barbie commercial auditions, I got to curl my eyelashes
because like big eye.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh yeah, those big dough eyes for Barbie.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Outside of that, yeah, I mean that was pretty much
my thing. I would wear a little gloss. And it's
funny now because my daughter is so in to make
up and my approach has been pretty chill.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yep, okay, so yourself.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, I'm just gonna like let it kind of do
its thing, and like, you know, teach her how to
do it, like show her what kind of colors look
good on her. So it's not like, you know, like
dark crazy. Yeah, but like if she wants to play
a little, I'm okay with it because I don't know,
I'm just like worried that if I'm like absolutely not
that we're going to have the sneaking around and then
you know, so.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
That's our approach right now. And she's so cute.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
She'll do like gloss and you know, she'll put a
little cheek on and I'm like just rub it in,
you know, and yeah, she using creams or using a
cream at this point.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, it's so cute.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
She into Sephora because I hear all the girls love.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, but like she has
a mom who doesn't know much about anything.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So I'm not.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I mean, I uh, curler.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Still, I was gonna say, you you know a lot
about a lot of things. I don't know the first
thing about acrylics or I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Those days are over. I'm exhausted. I retired so early.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Okay, all right, I'm happy to hear that, because I
don't know how you're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It, truthfully.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
So a few years after you start doing commercials, you
start popping up in TV shows like eight Simple Rules
Bernie Mack, but most predominantly Listen Up Jason Alexander and
this was I had to have been a dream, right,
I mean, the cast is incredible, and now you have
an on set teacher. Yes, you're living the life. Did
you love it?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I loved it? Oh, I loved it.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Any excuse if I'm being one hundred percent honest, any
excuse to get out of school?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I was like Sun me yes, And on set school
is not quite the same.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
No, I mean some set teachers are better than others.
I'm sure you've had.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Your experience and were great. Okay, they were very dedicated.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Oh love that, But also it's the experience too, Like,
for instance, on Listen Up, I was the only kid,
so I was like Hey, I got to go back
to the bungalow on twentieth Century Fox and sit by
myself and try to get my hours in.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
But no, for the most part, like.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I just loved I loved working specifically sitcom, So I
caught that bug pretty early.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Again, that audience. You had a life studio at Hace.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
The audience.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yes, most of the shows I did initially were all
audience And now I feel like that's kind of like
an anomaly.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It is gave made them an excuse to not need audiences.
They were like, Hey, yeah, we just laughers. Laughers, I know,
twelve people pay me to laugh at the jokes.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yes, and now you're lucky you even have those. Now
we're like everyone in video village laugh exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I know, laugh loud. I also know the late Malcolm
Jamal Warner was on that show with you, and he
knew what being a child actor was all about, was
what was working with him, Like he was a gem.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
He's special guy.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
What I loved most about him was that you knew
he had grown up in this business, but like he
was not a typical actor in that way, like so
humble and kind and kind of introverted too. Yeah, really sweet,
sweet man and great for someone like me because it
was my first series, so at least I had worked
(19:57):
with him, being a child actor himself, Jason, who had
been so much television at that point, I just felt
like really supported.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Oh what a great first experience there to have, like,
you know, tent poles around you, you know, of class
and excellency. Yeah. So thrown into the mix, here are
kid shows like Zoe one oh one, I, Carly Sweet Life,
the Nancy Drew movie, Yes so good, the best books ever,
the best books, and my aunt had all of the
like original one. Oh, I love them so much. Okay,
(20:28):
so you're at this point you're circling the Disney universe.
Yes it, and I know you sing as well? What
was being a triple threat Disney kid?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Really like woof, well if I'm okay.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
So when I was on Listen Up, I remember the
agents I had at the time, you know, putting me
in the mix for some like bigger stuff, and I
was kind of annoyed because I was like, no, I
want to do Disney and Nickelodeon, Like that's all I
wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
So I kind of went.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Behind their backs and got into a general with Disney
through my manager, and that general led to testing for
Hannah Montana within like at least the same day. It's
kind of a blur at this point, but I remember
them saying like, oh, this will be great for you.
You should test for this show. And so that was
like my entry level into like the Disney universe. I
had done maybe like some sweet or no, I think
(21:19):
Sweet Life came after.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But yeah, I just loved I loved kids TV.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I was a kid TV consumer at the time, so
I'm like, if I could be on my favorite shows,
that's a dream come true.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I mean, that's the same thing today.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yep. So that was kind of like my first experience
and it.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Was a rush, like I just yeah, I feel really
grateful I got sucked in.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
That is so fun. I was singing was never on.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
My Oh girl, I don't know why singing's on there,
if I'm being honest, really, yeah, I've had no choice
but to figure it out because at the time, when
when we're when Hannah Montana, for instance, everywhere, they're like,
goh sing and I said, you got it, here we go.
I was watching American Idol at the time, Kelly Clarkson
was a thing, and she said I believe Jeremiah was
a bullfrog, which she did called and that song stuck
(22:04):
in my head and that was what I sang for
the hand of Montana.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Others you had seen this, I said, she sounded great.
I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I love you for that, because I for having all
the confidence in the world, as far as like walking
into a room you saying whatever was on a piece
of paper. The minute somebody told me I needed to sing,
I was like, oh, you're.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The wrong person.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Bye. Everyone. It was nice meeting you, yes, and it's
like not good enough.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Like especially, I feel like we're circling back to that
a little bit, where like that era you had to sing,
like they were like, and now you sing, and I'm like, okay, okay,
I will if you want me to.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's still not that much different. I mean, a girl
makes me wrong now at this point was twelve years ago.
But everyone has to sing in every audition. They were like,
now why don't you sing us?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So I watched the audition, and I've watched the auditions.
I now got an experience, and I'm like, these people
have to sing on top of being good at what
they do and being cute and perfect and now they
got to be singers.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Now also be a yeah, I know it's wild. It
is wild. I admire it so much. There's like somehow
people just think there's like one little gene where you're
good at all these things. Not me, No, no, thank
you you. As you mentioned, you tested for Hannah Montana,
you were in the final three, and we all have
those roles. Oh yeah that got away.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I gotta hear yours because that's like one of my
favorite things to ask people.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, like what did you really want?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Or just like, was there that moment where you thought, Okay,
my life could very much change if this goes my way.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah? I I at one point, early early I was
going to the girl in Free Willie. I wanted that role.
Oh but you're so bad.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
That's crazy because some of these roles you auditioned for
and you have no idea the scope that it'll become.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
But you connected with that. I totally did. And then
I also tested for Eight Simple Rules, and I was like,
I wouldn't I want to do that show? And then
I don't remember what happened, but I think might have
been the audition where No, it was that was a
different show. I tested for another show. It's my weirdest story.
(24:08):
We're in the waiting room of looking at all the
other people who were there to test. There were like
three women there, and then there was another woman testing,
young woman, and she was like really off to the side,
and she was I could just tell that there was
like a very nervous energy and I felt very much
like it was my job to comfort her. I don't
know why. And I started talking to her and it
(24:30):
turns out she's the one who originally booked the role. Oh,
and they shot the pilot with her, were making her
test again against the other people at the same time.
These studios not like, oh, you know what, this is
traumatic enough, We're going to give you your own space
and time. No, she's in the waiting room with the
(24:50):
other people she was testing against. Anyway, Then we left
that audition and she was staying at a hotel nearby.
They flew her back out Wow, And I drove her
back to the hotel and as she was getting out
of the car, both of our phones RNG no, and
we looked down and it was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
it's your manager and she was like yeah. I was like,
it's my manager too, and I was like, I really
(25:10):
hope you get it and she was like thanks. She
got out, she closed the door, and I answered the
phone and they were like, all right, you didn't get it.
And I said, could you please just tell me? Did
the person who get it? Is she the one who
had it originally? And they said no, it was neither.
Oh Man, terrible, like the kind of Hollywood story that
(25:31):
could make you just go take me off the list.
I'm out. I don't want to do it anymore still,
and yeah, I just build your character.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And you know what, I've always tried to tell myself
this like crazy narrative that like it's not for me,
it's not like I truly believe.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And I have to.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I will go nuts that I'm being led correct, and
I will only.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Do the jobs that are right for me.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
And because what's yours will never not find you, like one.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Hundred percent, Because for every experience where you think that
that is yours and you build the whole story around
your future and then it goes down the drain, there's
the next one that becomes yours. And even if it's
three years later, you like, this makes so much sense now, Yes.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And how many times have we had experiences where we
think we really want some or even just a friend
that that you you realize like you were there, I
didn't know you were there, and then you still keep
bumping into each other. It's like the universe will find
a way. If it somehow misses you in this angle,
there will be another way. If it's yours, it will
be yours. Yeah, I completely agree, and we have to
we have to tell even if it's not true. Okay,
(26:30):
so Hannah or not, you are working a ton back,
then I have to assume your friends are starting to
be other studio lot kids.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah. Yeah, bit I'm trying to think.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
You know, I was because I don't know if it's
because I grew up out here that I had like
one big foot in reality still and my like one
foot was like pretending to be an actress.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
It was like I would come home and I had
a neighborhood full of kids, and like I didn't feel
like I could really talk about like what I did.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yep, So I was kind of just like a normal girl.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And then would go and work and then get sucked
in for that and then come back and be like nah,
it's all good and like jump back into real life. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
In a lot of ways, what you're describing was my
childhood as well. And it's a little like a hand
of Montana. Yes, where you live, dual lives, live little
bit dual lives. I loved going to my regular school, Yes,
with all my friends. My best friends still to this
day are the people I met at twelve years old
at a Wright Yeah and cawday, Like, those are all
my best friends. And I didn't talk a lot about work.
(27:30):
We just talked about you know, boys and homework, tests,
football games, dances, all the normal stuff. And then it
was like, all right, guys, I gotta I'll be back
in three weeks. Yeah, I'm gonna go pop over here
and do this weirdo thing.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah I'm weird. I would just down play it like, yeah,
it's weird.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
It's weird, it's awkward. But then I come back and
then it's all back to normal.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
So who was your little crew, like, if not not
your regular friends, but like your gosh, like, who was
I coming up with a little bit? Who were you
coming up if you did connect with I mean other
celeb kids. Who were they.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
I'm trying to think, Oh my goodness, who was it
there was, like trying to think, you know what, I'm
not going to name too many that I was like
close with. I just remember like we would see each
other and it would be cool and freshly like sets. Yeah,
like Emma Roberts was cool. Yeah, we did the movie together.
So I remember hanging out with her in real life
(28:34):
because she lived in Hidden Hills, so I would drive
her sometimes to work.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Amazing, she didn't drive. I don't think at that.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Point, So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I mean trying to think it was not I don't
know if there was many, like big celebrities, but if
I like saw them, it would be very comfortable and cool.
But a lot of kids lived out in Burbank or
the oak Woods at the oak Woods.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And I didn't.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I only really came out for work or auditions. So
it was like we're going to play dates exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
No, it was yeah, and your parents then would have
to make plans to get you together or you'd all
like go we used to go to islands.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Oh yeah, okay, my mom.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I have millions of photo shoots with random guys that were, uh,
just guest starring on Boy Meets World, and my mom
and his mom would like kick hit it off and
they'd be like, let's all go to islands after this,
and then we'd have like a we would just take
a bunch of pictures in the islands booth like also great.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Fries, Great Fries.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Uh were you boy crazy as a teen? I was.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I was a late bloomer.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Oh okay, I was a very late bloomer.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I thought that I think like I should have been
a boy. Like I was like, I'm gonna hang with
the boys, but like, you can't like.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Me very much the same. I loved all I loved
all guys stuff, like I wanted guy stuff, wanted to
hang out with them, wanted to be around them, thought
about them all the time, but maybe a little, but
wasn't ready to have a boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I was a very late bloomer. Even asked my husband, hoping,
like he's.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Like, she still doesn't like me. We're married to kids.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
It's the opposite. It's like I'm so obsessed with him.
I'm like I'm living a movie.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
He was like a high school quarterback and he had
such a normal life and like his a real job.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I love that for you. What's his normal job?
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Well, he went to school to become an accountant, but
now he's in like fintech sales.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I don't know. Sometimes I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
You working at home and make a lot of calls
on the phone.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
We have quiet that's on the phone.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah. For Mother's Day, my son made me a card
and he said that the question one of the questions
was what does mommy do for work? And he said,
make calls in going somewhere. I was like, well, you're
not wrong.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
You're actually lucky you have that perspective because now my
kids are like, they really like you because you're famous.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
And I'm like, that's weird. Like, I don't know if
I like that.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Like my son said to me yesterday, Ah, why do
all these people want to take your picture?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah? And the yes, Yes, that is a funny thing.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Sorry. One of your victorious co stars, Leon Thomas, home
American Music Award for Breakthrough R and B Artist and
even shouted out his Nickelodeon fans in his acceptance speech.
Is his success in music a surprise to you?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Not at all?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
He I think if I know, like he and Arianna
used to work together on music, so like in the
early days, yes.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Was like so gifted.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I mean that whole cast, like it honestly always feels
like a fever dream that I was even part of
it because each one was more successful than the next
and so gifted.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
And I know, you guys have really all grown up
to be very cool.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Oh like that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Not a lot of shows can say that, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, yeah, I feel lucky in that, like we generally
are speaking, all have some sort of like connection still.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And like you know how jobs are.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
It's like you become a family in two seconds and
the second they call cut or rap, you're like, I'm
going to see you next week and we can't be aptired,
I love you and then nothing. Yeah, but with Victorious
there's something different, like we're bonded in a really cool way,
and even if we're not like hanging out all the time,
like I love them.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I love each and every.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
One of them and I will absolutely always be their
biggest fan.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
That's so sweet, you guys shot at the Nickelodeon studio
on sunset. It's a bit of a landmark now that
sadly I know longer exists, but at any given moment,
there were a handful of kid shows filming all at once.
Could you give me any good Nickelodeon lot stories, like yes, oh.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I'm thinking of one.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I don't even remember why, but Justin Bieber came and
did a little thing with us, and I remember where
my dressing room was. It was me, Victoria and Avin
on one wing, and then Ari, Liz and Leon had
like another wing, and I think Matt was over there
as well.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Trying to picture it.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Anyways, they took over whose room was, I think maybe Avan's,
and gave him Justin like like his own dressing room,
which was right across from Mere Oh yeah is yeah,
so like Ari and I like all the girls are
just like going nuts, and we're like sitting in the
dressing room and like now no longer says Avan's name,
it says Justin Bieber.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Like we're in Justin Bieber's dressing room like a.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Thousand times before.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I'm little and cute there, Like it's not even the
Justin Bieber we know now, but at the time he
was still just as be.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Delicious amazing to have this many decades of Bieber fever
bieber fever. I know, yeah, what a cute you know.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
There was great experiences, like we overlapped I think with
I Carly at one point, so we did a movie
together and like that was fun. Like it's always fun
when you are with the same people all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's like when you get a script and you're like,
there's a guest star, this week's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It was always it. He's cute.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Well that too that Yeah, it's like built in dating
services for everyone.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Exactly. I'm going to assume that this is a yes,
have you been slimed?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Oh? Yes, multiple times?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Tell me about that experience.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
The first time it was a novel, I just thought,
no way, my childhood dreams like coming true.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Complete.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
We're done, I can be, we can act yet, we're good,
bucket list done.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And then you.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Get slimmed a number of times and you're realizing, wow.
And we would do these game shows where you might
get slimed on the first show, but you have like
two more that you're shooting in that same day, and
now you're running to like whatever.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
The little pop up tent.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Trailer situation for the shower is have to reset, go
through hair and makeup, and turn around for the next
episode just to get slimed again and do it all
over again.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Oh my gosh. Okay, so it goes from being like
the number one thing on my bucket list checked off too.
If you slim me one.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
We're done so well.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I am not taking these individuals off one more time.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
You said hard to get out of your hair.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's no.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I just remember it being like almost like Elmer's glue.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I forgot because we've had to use it. They use
it all the time in movies and stuff. It's whatever
that is. It's safe. I think you can.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I would not.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I wouldn't try that. Yeah, I got. I had to
be covered honey once on an episode of Boy Meets
World and the only thing I remember about the literally
covered in honey in front of a bear. Oh my god,
don't remember anything about that. I do remember that washing
my hair was annoying. That's the memories like getting honey.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Oh you like you have the hair of like a lifetime,
Thank you very much. I dreamt of having hair like you.
At one point in my life. I dreamt of being you.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
You have gorgeous hair. You don't need anyone else's hair.
It's just gorgeous. But allow me to tell you about
beefree by Daniel Fishall you say, my hair, hair, Caroline,
I'll send it to you.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I'll be a customer.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh no, I'll send it to you and if you
love it, then the best reward is you being a customer.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That's definitely me.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
On my other podcast, Pod Meets World, we have been
rewatching our show as adults and we have run into
what I've called hindsight problems. These are means or motifs
or instances that seem problematic in twenty twenty six, but
at the time as kids, it was just sort of
this unspoken job that we had to keep quiet and
(36:10):
do what's in the script. I know Victorious has this
problem occasionally now too, and I've wondered, how do you
perceive it now that you're in your thirties.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
How much time do we have? You know?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I have like kind of a rose colored glasses approach
to it all.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It's just that like I.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Grew up in this business, and jokes that were funny
then might not feel the same now, And things that
like I was in a situation with at one point
may feel uncomfy now. But like it's all perspective and
you know it is what it is. The show has
such a special place in my heart, and that time
of my life was like a really like big growth
(36:53):
period for all of us, and so in a lot
of ways, like I just couldn't imagine not having through that.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. I don't remember.
Sure were there moments where things were like this is weird?
Like I do definitely remember thinking is this weird? And
then you just move on and and those moments are
not things that I feel like have permanently scarred me.
I could I look back on the time and think
everyone has something to Anyone has their things totally yours
(37:24):
were just preserved on television and now the Internet for
everyone to witness. But you don't go through life unscathed
or without having uncomfortable experiences or being put in situations
that now you'd go, I wouldn't want anybody putting my
kid in that situation. But like, no one gets through
it unscathed. So you also worked closely with arguably the
(37:48):
first ever YouTube star to cross over to mainstream, Fred Figglehorn.
Most people didn't even know what YouTube was back then,
and you were on his TV shows, in his movies,
then his unrelated Nick show later on. Did anyone back
then think YouTube would become what it has become?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Gosh, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I mean it was news to me kind of because
I must have missed a little bit of that YouTube
like startup culture. Yeah, And I just remember the buzz
around this kid and how like found to earth. He
was like he was just a kid that figured it
out early and had a niche and he leaned in
and people loved it. And that's what happens nowadays. It's
(38:30):
just now so much more multiplied. And I don't know
if we knew back then like what YouTube would become.
But I'm really in a way like grateful that YouTube
exists because I don't know if you heard this a
lot growing up, but I sure did.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Where I was like, how do I become an actress?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
And I'm like, now, you guys like you actually have
so much more power than I did. I had to
commute to a room, present myself, like hope that they
would like me enough to give me a chance, and
then hope that that would like open doors.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
It's just it's such a different process now.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Absolutely. Also, you can become a success by being authentically
you totally, instead of trying to put yourself into the
mold of a character or something that somebody else wants.
That like, we're all craving more authenticity and seeing more
of it, and so yeah, the power kids have today
that we just couldn't have even dreamed of. Do you
(39:25):
still keep in touch with Fred?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I haven't talked to him in years. I was actually, yeah,
I didn't even I'm sure he's doing well. I think
he probably was like, I'm good with this. I made
my money young, I'm going to go live my life.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm happy for him. What do you
think if you had the power of YouTube at your
fingertips when you were a kid and hearing all about
your side hustles, what do you think you would have
made your niche YouTube career out of What would you
focused on? Question?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Well, would I have focused on? Probably?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I mean I was such a spice girl, stand like,
I would probably just have an entire account on like
lip syncing to every song and making some silly choreography up,
and that would just be it.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
That would be the end.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'd love to see you as like a whole series
on what your sixth spice girl? Like, you know what
I mean it is, you're like the sixth and so
you see the opening, they're all, name who would you
have been? What? What girl would you have been?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well? I uh okay, let me think. Hold on chefy spice.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Oh I love chefy spice. Yeah, Like she's just gonna
chef it up. She's gonna cook you something up.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yes, We're always gonna be sometimes it's drama.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, you just never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
So now this is something I know a little bit about.
You are about to step back into the role of
Trina Vega ten years later for a Victorious spinoff, Hollywood
Arts on Netflix. Yeah, you'll be surrounded by a whole
new generation of stars. How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Man, Yeah, I was pretty emotional, to be honest, Like,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
If you felt that way.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It was a long time coming. Like I think, you know,
the show left us kind of open for something fresh
and new and exciting. And I'm so grateful for the
audience that, like, we're such big supporters of Victorious to
allow us to do something like this, Because if there
wasn't a fandom like nowadays, you can't sell anything, So
(41:30):
we're lucky that we had that so that we can
like make a show that we think they'll love. And
it feels really pretty amazing. Like when I said, you know,
I felt like at some point I was like an
observer of the Victorious cast, Like I was just happy
to be there and I couldn't believe that I got
to be a part of it. I still feel that way.
So the fact that like I'm now in this spin
off and in a way like on my own outside
(41:54):
of that original cast.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Is wild to me.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
But I don't think I would have done it if
I didn't have their support. That was like number one
for me.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Did you have all those conversations yefore going into the meetings.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Yeah, it was a wild experience because there was talk
of it. For you know how things are. It's like
it's an idea for a while, and then it becomes
sort of closer to being a real thing, and then
it stops, and then you're like, yeah, it's not happening,
and then one day it like light Bulb was like yep,
we're gonna announce that it's gonna happen, and I was
like no, no, no, no, no, wait, hold on, I got
to talk to everyone, like this can't be like announced
(42:26):
without me having a conversation with everyone. I couldn't imagine
them finding this out and not in the being from me.
And so they were like, okay, literally they said, we'll
give you twenty four hours, but we're going to announce
that this is going to get greenlit.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
And I went, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
I was on my phone like all of that day,
like calling voice messaging, like sending text, like trying to
explain like this has kind of been happening, but like
I didn't think it would actually happen, and now it's
gonna happen, like I'm lost and I just need you
guys to know and hear it from me, and like
I want to hear what your thoughts are. And every
single response, being the longest, was like so heartfelt and
(43:03):
so supportive and like yeah, to this day, I'm like, god,
I wish like I'm not a voice memo keeper, but
I'm like, man, I wish I would have kept those
because the words were like so real, things like this
is your chance to like make Nickelodeon like what it
was for us growing up, like come back to like
where we began, and like it was just really really sweet.
(43:24):
So I hope I did that.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
I love that. I'm so excited for you. Yeah, thank you.
Did you ever I mean you said it's been in
talks for a long time, But could you have imagined
back when you were on the show, did you ever
see this being no? The thing that was? No?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Not at all?
Speaker 3 (43:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Maybe I have like a little imposter syndrome, but like
I was just happy to be there, Like I never
thought that like it could come back, and then I could,
you know, be the one to be and bring a
spin off Like that's nuts.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
So sweet. Yeah. Have you been surprised by how much
you see yourself in the young girls in the cast?
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Oh my gosh, do you say a little bit?
Speaker 2 (44:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
They make girls different nowadays. Okay, they are way cooler,
So in that regard, I think there's a bit of
a disconnection.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
They're so mature and so cool.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
And you know what I said about this experience that's
like just different than any experience I've been in, is
that people have so much more self awareness.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
I thought that I was mature.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
And confident, but I think a lot of it was
just a front, Like I was just trying to figure
it out and get by and like it till you
make fake it till that was more my narrative. Theirs
is like authenticity, self awareness, like good communication. And that
was really important for me because I want us to
be like this and I and I think, like, you know,
(44:51):
I got to come in as now like a EP,
which is so wild for me. But I think the
biggest part of that role for me is being somewhat
of like modeling best practices because this is for a
lot of them is their first show. A lot of
them it was their first table read, which was nuts.
So seeing them just be such good humans and like
(45:13):
come together as such good humans, I'm like Shet's kiss.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yes, That's exactly how I felt too. It's like modeling
what it means to be a professional on stage and
to do this work and to have boundaries and to
take care of yourself and to you know, take care
of your fellow actress and to you know, all of
that was like the thing I was the most excited. Yes,
and to be able to model kudos to you that
(45:38):
you can start out very young in this industry and
still be in it. This many decades later and still
be happy and still be thriving and have a good, happy, normal,
successful life. Yeah, and that that can be their future too.
So very excited for you, Thanks lucky for me. Danielle
stuck around for a bonus team beat that will air
(46:00):
this Friday on our dedicated feed. We get into so
much more about her life and upcoming return to the
Victorious universe. Plus we hear from a dear listener willing
to share their own embarrassment in order to make us
feel better. And remember to check out teenbeatpod dot com
for Teenbeatmarch. Teenbeat is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted
by Danielle Fischel. Executive producers Jensen Carp and Amy Sugarman,
(46:23):
Executive in charge of production Danielle Romo, producer and editor
Tara Sudbach. The theme song is by mar Coppus. Yes
that Mark Coppus. Follow us on Instagram at teenbeatpod
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