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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I feel just to build upon what baseball's already doing
is just to allow the authenticity to just flourish.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Let's see these players behind the helmet.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
What is it they love to do? A lot of
them are so good at other things in baseball. Yeah,
Hunter Green is a great artist. Willia Domis loves architecture,
like being able to tell those stories beyond just who
they are as players.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Let's see that. Let's understand that, but then also allow
them to be who they are.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Welcome back to the Deal. I'm Jason Kelly. I'm Alex
Rodriguez coming up on this week's episode. AJ Andrews. This
is a standout softball player who's now an MLB broadcaster.
So someone you have a lot of questions for.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah, Jason, everyone I respect. I want to ask two questions.
Number one, how do we avoid a Major League Baseball
work stoppage after the twenty twenty six season. And this
second one is how do we build on this great
momentum that Major League BASEBA was built over the last
six months?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, and she has built quite a career for herself
and has I think a lot of opinions about what
should happen next coming up in the Deal, AJ Andrews,
all right, AJ Andrews, welcome to the Deal. We're so
excited to have you with us. Lots to talk about
across your career. We're gonna talk a little lsu, little softball,
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but I think we got to start with baseball.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, take it away.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
So AJ, first of all, I love what you're doing.
I'm a big fan of your work. I'm an admirer
from Afar. Thank you. And we have a lot in common.
You know, we're both from Florida, you Tampa, me Miami.
We're both former Gold Glove winners. Huh okay, love that.
Thanks and we're in the world of baseball and covering media.
But you and I happen to be at the World
Baseball Classic don in Miami, and it seems to me
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and Jason, we've talked a lot about this, that baseball
is could be at an all time high or is
going through a great moment. How do you keep baseball
going and how do you see the world of business
and baseball right now.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I don't know how you felt at the World Baseball Classic,
but it was one of the most electric environments I
had ever been able to experience within baseball and being
able to connect with so many different fan bases and
watch the games, it felt like postseason baseball every single game.
And so I feel like within WBC, I feel being
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able to allow the players to continue to have that
much enthusiasm excitement throughout the regular season, whether you be
pimping it, the celebrations around the bases, the passion, the energy.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It was palpable. You could feel it through the screen.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And so for me, I feel like in order for
baseball to continue in that trajectory, seeing more of that,
I think would be fun. I feel right now within
baseball and even softball, there's a lot of playing the
right way, whatever that means. I feel as if players
should be able to express themselves how they want to
express themselves on the field. So I see it growing
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if we can continue in that trajectory, and also players
being able to wear the swag, the cleats. I don't
know how you feel. You know, you can now have
a beard as a Yankee, you know, things like that,
just different things that we didn't really see in the past.
I think moving especially and tailoring more toward a young
younger generation. I feel like that is where baseball probably
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needs to go to continue to watch.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I mean, beers apply to me because I'm still trying
to grow a beer.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Hey, I said, you look good, bit Now everybody can
pull it off.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Right. Beards our makeup for some mens.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And so just on the WBC for a second. I mean,
you were you were in the fan zone, you were
doing something broadcasting from there. But this is about the fans.
At the end of the day, what was the fan
vibe and what did you hear from them? I guess, well, I.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Don't know if you guys know, but I have been
adopted by the Venezuelans.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Wow, they love me over there. It was so fun.
I'm huge in Venezuela, huge, huge Venezuela. I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I just tried the APPUS, so I understand the adp
of power now, like I'm in.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It right, I'm in there.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But I feel like within with the fans, they just
want to be represented. And because I was out there,
whether it be the US fans, Venezuela, Dominican Republic, it
didn't matter. The pride within being able to see people
that come from where you come from, excelling on such
a high stage in a sport that means so much
to your country, whether it's the United States or where
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have you. It was so exciting to watch, and I
feel like what the fans really wants to be able
to feel as if they're being represented in a huge way,
So Dominican Republic, the the energy and their pride and
being able to be the instruments or being able to
dance and celebrate, being able to see that on the field.
It was as if it was like the pride on display,
same thing with the Venezuelans and so in the same
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thing in which whatever it is within American pride, the
they'd be able to watch Aaron Judge walk out with
the flag. Just being able to watch these things that
really dignify or accentuate who you are as a country.
That's what the fans wanted to see. But being authentic
and expressed to the fullest extent.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
So age. I have a question. We had a debate
before every game. We have the pregame show with Fox
with Derek Jeter, Poppy, myself and Kevin Burke, Hurk and
Poppy and I sit in the middle, and we were
trying to explain to our Cornerman that for countries like
Dominica Republic or Venezuela, this is bigger than a world series, right,
And they had a hard time really understanding that, Yeah,
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what do you sit in that role?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I agree, and I mean the players they say it, right, like,
this isn't an opinion, right, this is genuinely how they feel,
But it's because it's an opportunity where it's just a
different feeling when you can play with individuals that come
from where you come from, have experienced the same hardships
you've experienced, that look like you. They understand to the
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fullest what it took for you to get here, the
pride be able to represent your country, and there's so
many people at home that would not would kill to
be in Miami to watch these games, right, And I mean,
I feel like you can relate it to the Olympics
if you want to write the pride people have for
competing for their country. In that sense, it's the same
thing with the WBC. And so I feel like it's
fairly simple to understand why it would be a little
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bit more impactful to some people than a world series.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Let's talk about you specifically in your career because you
hit college at a moment and at a school where
softball it felt like, from the outside at least, just
was exploding. Did it feel like something special was happening
in the game and in the sport when you were
in college, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Feel because it started getting more TV time.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And because of that, I went to the World Series
twice at LSU. So what my freshman year, I went
my senior year. I believe my freshman year they really
only televising the World Series, or maybe there was Supers,
but for the most part it was the World Series.
By my senior year, you had the Regionals, Super Regionals
and the Role Series being televised.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And because of that, you're able.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
To then you know, when you watch somebody in the
Regionals and may you get attached to a person or
a player, you're gonna watch them throughout the entire time.
But being able to see these different stories and these
different athletes compete, it was it only exploded and excelled
or propelled what we see today where now there's games
on every single weekend, if not every day with college softball.
And I feel like that argument had been going on
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for so long between the Chicken and the hegg of
do we give these women the opportunity to be on
TV or do we wait till the viewership.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Is there and then put them on TV.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And it only proved the point that if you build it,
they will come give us an opportunity to be on television.
The game speak for itself. If you love baseball, you're
going to love softball. It's faster, pays, it's the depth
is different. You have to have quicker reactions or slappers.
It's much of each roads running around. Like there's just
a lot of fun within the game of softball, you
know what I mean. Like, there's just a lot to
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softball that you don't necessarily get in baseball.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Because of that, you're going to love both. So like
give it a shot.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And I feel like at that time, sectually my senior year,
it's when it started to explode.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And now it's just a super nova.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
You've seen what happened in WNBA. What do you think
softball can do to learn from that? And what is
the future of softball with these numbers we just talked about.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, I think it's only going to continue to get bigger.
I mean, Kim Ing is now the commissioner for the AUSL, and.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So that's a limited softball league.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Last year there were four teams. Now there's six, so
it is continuing to grow. And now they actually have cities.
Before it was kind of a barnyard system where you
moving and play them in different cities. But now they
have homes each six cities. And so I think that
within what I've seen from basketball WBA is a lot
of it's the storytelling and giving these women the opportunity
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to be a thousand and who they are. I love
it when you can see women in these positions of
she's extremely powerful or she is dominant, talking about her
as if she's just completely taking over the way in
what she is, and I want those storylines to be
built the same way within softball. This past year, Briellis
is someone that comes to mind. They were comparing her
a lot to Barry Bonds, and so it being the
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conversation of Okay, we'll build upon that, but hopefully making
it her own, not necessarily like she's.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
The female Barry Bonds.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
This is Bree Ellis, who is x y Z the
best of the best, and have those stories where people
pique the interest and then come in and want to
watch more.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
But I think MLB is doing good job.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They have the partnership with AUSL now as far as
trying to help with TV, also making financial help with
the league. But I think we're moving in a good direction.
This is going to be the second year of AUSL.
So my sister's on the talents. So if you're looking
for somebody to.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Root for it, yeah, okay, the talents well, and the
storytelling piece is definitely a big part of this. It
goes back to exactly what you guys were saying about
World Baseball Classic. It's like we went I mean, you've
been saying this for a long time, you know, getting
to know these players in a way that we do
get to know NBA players, we do even more than
we used to get to know NFL players. Certainly baseball
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players are you know, kind of hidden from us since
softball players. I think the same way. I don't know
if it's the nature of the game or what it is.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Well, I like what you said, aj, I think what
WBC brings out, it takes the helmet off the player.
The way you fall in love with players, both men
and women, is knowing their backstory, where did they come from?
Is there a relatability to connect point like, we're both
from Florida, Gold Glover. Okay, now we can connect on that, right,
And I think WBC does it in such a beautiful
way that I'm left starved for more. And I want
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to see more players being themselves, being unapologetic if they
want to wear pink, orange, green, where whatever the hell
you want. You know, Eggo Martinez, my great teammate Hall
of Famer for the Seattle Mariners, he used to tell me, Alex,
you feel good, you look good, you play good. And
I think that's mis true for all sports.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah right, No, I agree, I think definitely to your point,
the storytelling would be a great piece, especially I feel like,
what's hot are the girls that come right out of college?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Right, So being able to tell more of those stories
allow people to really follow them into their teams because then,
of course you're fans of them, but then you become
fans of their teammates and the team Like to me,
right now, Nigerie Kennedy, who's a picture at Texas Tech,
who knocked off the Dynasty of Ou last year, right
and so, and she's the one that has the first
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million with mahomes right in Texas Tech and so being
able to follow her right to have that storytelling. To
your point, build that story, build it upon whatever team
she's going to be with AU and then us be
able to build upon that same thing with a lot
of different athletes that are going to be coming out.
I think that's a good way to do it, to
build the fandom and the stories.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So Jason, I love what aj is saying here, like
a deal on a deal here, because I love writing
off the wave and the momentum of a college into dobla,
the fanfare into the next level. Well, you create a
Netflix show or Bloomberg show or whatever, and you follow
six of your favorite women's softball players and you do
a journey about eighteen months from the time their senior
year to their first year, and yeah, kind of take
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us under the challenges the travel.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I would love that side.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, it looks like exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Listen, I'll host if you guys want to fund.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There, you go go, all right, we're putting that, We're
putting that out into the world. There's a really cool
moment and I want you to share the story of
our audience where obviously you're interested in business. You're interested
in business of sports. You've got your mindset on being
a sports agent, and Jessica Mendoza says, what about this
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other path? Can you tell us that story? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So it was my senior year in college and I
had been asked a lot to do a lot of interviews,
and so Jessica Mendoza was one of the individuals that
would often interview me. And I remember after we had
SEC tournament was at LSU in my senior year, and
so she just asked me after one of the interviews,
I've ever thought about being on camera? And at that
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point I was actually already on camera. Had a show
called My Way with AJ at LSU. It was just
a YouTube show. I just competed against the different LSU athletes.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So I told her.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I was like, yeah, I loved to you. I just
never envisioned a career in it. And so after she
said that to me, though, I really just started thinking
a little bit more of it, and I said, Okay, yeah,
that's actually something I would like to do. And so
I went back to school and got my master's degree
in mass colm in broadcasteralism.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
That's incredible my story with Jessica. I know her. Jays
haven't told you this. We've known each other since basically teenagers,
because first time I started falling in love with softball
that I had real exposure was that Jenny Finch Jessica
Mendoza US Olympic team, and we did a little TV
thing at the All Star Game and we've been friends
ever since. And then of course we worked together at
ESPN on Sunday Night Baseball. Yeah, so she's fantastic. But
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my question is what are the advantages of being a
former athlete turned broadcaster and is there any dis advantages.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I think the advantages are you're able to kind of
see things in a different perspective when you're explaining, whether
it be to the public, to the fans, or just
having conversations with the athlete. Because when you're talking about
maybe a play that happened and an ideal world, this
is what could have happened or should have happened, You're
able to explain why maybe that didn't go the way.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
That it's supposed to go or could have gone.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And then the same conversation, if you're having a conversations
with the athlete, you're able to explain or talk to
them it's like, no, I understand this is what happened,
So why did you do this so because I would
have done it this way? Or I know so and
so does it this way? Does it help you because
of this?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And so.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I think if you being able to have the knowledge
or the experience as an athlete, even if it's a
different sport of everybody knows that drive and the competitiveness
it takes to get to from point A to point B,
and I think being able to relate in that fashion
allows conversations to flow in a different way or for
you to explain things that maybe might be a little
bit different.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm curious if you feel the same.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Way I do. I do, And I think one of
the things that I really was really careful in my
early days with broadcasting was as a former athlete, you
can talk above the audience a little bit. And I
always thought my audience were my two daughters, right when
they were in third and fifth grade, really kind of
unpack it where it's really digestible. But also I think
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practicing empathy and compassion because they say the further you
get away from your playing days and the further you
get away from the field, the easier it is for you,
and you can't forget how hard the game is because
it is really really difficult. So I think explaining that
and giving it as due justice, I think is equally
as important as trying to make it sound like everything
should be done or should have done it better exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That's how I feel in regards to saying yes, I
understand that this is what should have happened to me.
It's kind of been like, listen, they know that there's
nobody beating them up right now more than they are
in their own mind as that athlete, and so what
they're going to do or what they should do, the
adjustment they're probably looking to make is this.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
And I think to your point, I.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Love Vejel what you said about sometimes on TV, when
you slow it down five hundred times with twenty five
TV angles, it looks so simple at home. But I think,
like you said, yes, you should have made that play.
He'll be the first one to say that, But think
about it this.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Way or even the first thing that comes to my
mind is the first time I transition from center field
to left field. And if you have never been put
in left field and had a lefty come up to
bat against the pitcher that throws a screwball. The ball
you wouldn't know if you didn't take reps, you would
not know that no matter where you are, word's placed,
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that batter is going to start here, but it will
always end over here.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So you have to.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Know that, no matter how much you want to take
that step to your right, you have to go left
because it's going to go left. And if you haven't
played that, even if you're a softball player baseball player,
if you have not gone to left field because from centerfield,
I'm not gonna be able to tell you that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I only know that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Because I played left, So I do believe being an
apple in that regard it really helps break down the game.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Another layer, Jason want to nerd out, but she's gonna
get me the best out of me. When I went
from shortstop to third base as a New York Yankee,
a little bit like you're going from center to left,
very similar is I was. I had no problem with
fly balls because flyballs for shortstop, they're true. They stayed
very true. And if it was way to my right,
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like you know, the third basement had it. I came
to the Yankee Stadium and I played third base, and
I would see balls that would start like in the
upper deck and I would just give up on it,
and that ball would start coming back, coming back, coming back,
and all of a sudden it got into my head.
I was terrible at flyballs the last five or six
years in my career. It was a ball went up jitter,
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It was crazy. So I can relate with that, But
how can someone like at home, like Jason know that,
Like it just says the fly balls a fly ball,
but not all fly balls are created equal.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
They're not created equal, and the sun is the biggest bully.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, So let's talk about Major League Baseball a little bit.
You've got a show in the MLB network, Playball, Saturday mornings, Playball.
So this is fascinating to me because it's coming at
this moment, as Alex said earlier, where baseball's in growth
mode maybe for the first time in a while, like
really sort of feeling like, all right, we're going to
bring new people in, help us understand sort of the
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business case for the show and sort of how it
came about and what you're excited about.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Sure, So I've been hosting Playball for the last four years,
it's very much tailored towards kids. But it is a
highlight show that just kind of showcases what happens the
week prior within baseball. And then it's a lot of
giving instruction or you'll have a lot of players talk
about their favorite moments, their big moments, what it is
that they did when they were younger, big inspiration, and
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then also kind of breaking down a lot of different
plays or maybe it was a really good a good
play that happened, or a great hit. A lot of
times I'll have you do demos, so I'll demonstrate whether
it is a slide slide, or if it was a
catch from judge, or if it was a great diving
play somebody made. So it's a lot of different parts,
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a lot of moving parts, but it's Taylor to try
to be fun for the kid to get invested into it.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
All right, So as we wrap up, there's one thing
that I wanted to do with both of you, which
is very of the moment when it comes to baseball,
and Alex teed it up at the beginning of the episode,
which is critical moment. What needs to happen next? I'm
going to give you thirty seconds, Ah, what needs to happen.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh God, baseball, you can take more. Okay, thank yeah,
I thought the tiers taken. I feel just to build
upon what baseball's already doing is just to allow the
authenticity to just flourish in the biggest fascets. I believe
storytelling as well. See these players behind the helmet, what
is it they love to do? A lot of them
are so good at other things in baseball. Yeah, Hunter
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Green is a great artist. Willia Domis loves architecture, like
being able to tell those stories beyond just who they
are as players. Let's see that, Let's understand that, but
then also allow them once to see who they are,
allow them to be who they are when they get
on the field. And so, I don't know, I'm a big,
big batflip fan. I'm a big go around the base
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as loud as you can. The way in which they
were showing off the Dominican Republic jersey, let them do
it with their raised jersey or Yankees jersey or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
That's to me. I feel like that's the thanks to move.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I feel like kids love it more, bat flips more, everything,
just be authentic. I mean, I think forever baseball was
America's past time, and it was number one above football
and basketball. I'm dating myself a little bit back in
the seventies and eighties, but I do think they need
to just let a rip more access in the clubhouse.
Everything magical happens before the first pitch. But yeah, we
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locked that down right, and I think it's a great
multi billion dollar media property if we unlock that and
allow people to see how does Otani prepare? How does
Judge prepare?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Well?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Domins, what's he doing? I think is a great opportunity
for baseball. More is more?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Do you think there's gonna be a locked out?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
It sounds like it. It sounds like it, But you
know what's great about that? I mean it's not great,
but you know what, Please tell me what you can
do if you are starving for baseball. You can watch
Athletes Limited Softball League and listen to my podcast where
I'm talking all things women in softball and also what
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is the name of your podcast called Dropping Diamonds? Okay,
then come on and drop I want you guys to
come on.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
If you are coming up now, would you play baseball?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
No? I still power to play softball? Yeah, I think
it's just different for me. What drew me.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I played a lot different sports when I was younger,
So play soccer, played basketball, played softball, and everything else
was very it's sports right and firm softball. I remember
my first member why I love the game. I made
a diving catch on it. Really it was really wet
outside from Florida, dewey grass, and I slid like it
was a slip and slide, and so I was hooked.
And so for me, there's the aspects that you give
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a softball that you're just not gonna get any other sport,
I think are what hooked me.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So yeah, I think it's still be softball.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
All right, all right, let's do rapid fire. So just
a handful of questions. Just first thing that pops to
your mind, will bounce it back and forth. You're gonna
be really good at this, all right, right. Favorite baseball
player of all time, all.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Time, Ah Griffy, Favorite softball player of all time.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Josh Wally.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Favorite World Baseball Classic twenty twenty six game or moment.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Probably me.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Moment was me celebrating with the Venezuelans when they beat Italy.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Most exciting and mobiplayer M I.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Love watching jazz, Jazz just gon't.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Play storyline you're most looking forward to in the twenty
six MLB season?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
What the Mariners are gonna do after after last year?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
What team do you want to see? You won a championships?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I really wanted them away last year.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I don't Wow.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I just think it if he explained this to me.
You're a Tampa girl, I know team What is that about?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I know you know it's not. I just think it
would have been really cool to watch them.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
When Yeah, the first one you had a good run.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I'm a big underdog person.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
And finally, what's your dream hosting gig?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Hmmm, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Probably get all the greats in every sport ever and
we just have one big show of who's the best?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Wow, it's like a Olympics.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, when do we show up?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You too?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
All right, I'll be there on the sidelines documenting it
a really really fun Thank you for doing this.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Thank you, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
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